📨・meta-help

[still moat]

i also have ss3 wata, need to impruv

[haughty quarry]

Is there a cub tierlist

[rocky wedge]

mine is ss0

♿

[haughty quarry]

Mine is S0

[visual topaz]

ow

[still moat]

[onyx palm]

damn

[visual topaz]

nvm i saw exaltair msg

[onyx palm]

gotta get the 💀

[still moat]

i pulled anoher wata when i was trying to build pity for qu

[haughty quarry]

He need some improvement fr

Didnt even finish hypertune too

[onyx palm]

building pity in a game with 100% rate at 60 pulls

[still moat]

well building pity is an excuse

[haughty quarry]

I dont understand why build pity in the first place

[still moat]

i just want to gamble

[onyx palm]

gacha addict

[haughty quarry]

Like bruh just wait

[visual topaz]

buddy you just have gambling addiction

see

[foggy ridge]

and thats a bad thing?

[frozen creek]

Whel like ew don’t need to gamble

[visual topaz]

it is

[stuck sphinx]

[frozen creek]

Enough money to max without gamble

[subtle zinc]

I always do single pulls in between wz sesshs

[haughty quarry]

Then just accept your gambling addiction instead of saying you were building pity

[subtle zinc]

why not its fun

[visual topaz]

game just gives me dupes every 10-20 pulls

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[still moat]

no

i will keep saying im building pity for the next s rank

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/street-cat-cam-cat-cat-staring-cat-feed-cam-cat-feeder-gif-3382395890859963346

[haughty quarry]

Why reject gambling addiction

[onyx palm]

I'm building pity and just happened to get a dupe

[visual topaz]

too ashamed to admit

[frozen creek]

I got 60 60 40 60

[onyx palm]

but ignore the fact I used 60 extra pulls

[frozen creek]

[onyx palm]

3 times

[subtle zinc]

real whales pull dupe S ranks to convert shards to finish another ^_^

[visual topaz]

I got 84/4/38/90/3/15/9/21/55 on Fate and 60 on normal banner

[still moat]

oh i have spare 2500 bc

[haughty quarry]

Its part of him now

[still moat]

maybe i should do another 10 pull to build pity for qu

[haughty quarry]

Better just accept

[frozen creek]

So what was fate average

Has to be really low

[still moat]

guh

[haughty quarry]

Control yourself

[visual topaz]

Fate avg around 35

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-a-surgeon-dr-han-the-good-doctor-discord-bubble-discord-speech-bubble-gif-1845193550933450334

[frozen creek]

[visual topaz]

the more i pulled, the less it costed overall

[frozen creek]

Fate propaganda

[visual topaz]

except Normal banner

[visual topaz]

you're missing global sample

[still moat]

i can vouch

[cold walrus]

Do you incite pulling fate banner?

[visual topaz]

if you have half a million BC income per year

1 year pulling Fate data

[subtle zinc]

interesting~

[visual topaz]

it matches with the 1,9% avg pity in game rules

that makes 1 s rank every 49,5 pulls

Pikasweeper did the simulations too

however 1,9% is also the probability with the normal banner

the only gamble part is trying to get better avg than 49,5pulls/dupes

u can get cucked by the gacha like my Lee pulls with almost 80/avg

[subtle zinc]

yeah it should be better for pulling 10+ copies on avg but high variance makes its scawy

[visual topaz]

skill issue

[still moat]

[visual topaz]

luck is a stat

hence it's a skill issue

[rocky wedge]

2nd try light and my 21 has no harmo

[visual topaz]

SS0 or SS3 Feral

[rocky wedge]

ss0

[carmine reef]

ss0 i'm guessing

[visual topaz]

dayum

isn't SS0 the cope energy issue feral

[still moat]

no longer solo cw ?

[rocky wedge]

ye

[visual topaz]

[rocky wedge]

ofc not especially with r2 feral

[still moat]

[rocky wedge]

but with this weather anyway solo is bad

[visual topaz]

really long term perspective why not but there is gonna be high and lows anyway since it's avg

the reddit post that got memed simulated 200k pulls on Fate

[rocky wedge]

but there is probably a way to get even more by abusing dlt and spamming ults with alpha

[still moat]

i still dont understand how to play lightning

[visual topaz]

an avg F2P has a few thousand a year

[subtle zinc]

me either, I get stuck around wave 15 I think i dont swap enough

[rocky wedge]

since u can also save some ults out of amp / weather timing for alpha then do 2 on next swap that have the buff

[visual topaz]

which region for you both

[subtle zinc]

60% light dmg for 8 sec on swap in

[visual topaz]

the revamped Feral weather

[still moat]

do u swap whenever feral is up or do u wait till amp buff is over

[rocky wedge]

i swap whenever i feel like it

[shadow holly]

don't try to understand how this guy plays WZ he's a magician

on lightning especially

[rocky wedge]

well not really lately light i really have no clue anymore

sometimes weird things work sometimes they dont

sometimes they do the same as basic things

but this weather i think is where the weird stuff will work

[fossil saddle]

simulacrum

[shadow holly]

simulacrum

[keen pumice]

This game is amazing, I'm loving playing it LMAO

[still moat]

[rocky wedge]

i hate this game

[fossil saddle]

[subtle zinc]

my feral is not harm but has weapon resos and she really does alot of dmg if i dont skill issue on the pings sometimes can even get 1 ult and then save one for next swap

but its just not consistent lol. and when I do swap and ult fast, usually im on garnet doing nothing for 3-5 sec

[fossil saddle]

skill issue

[subtle zinc]

oh I know ❤️ I like wz because it makes me learn the teams and characters in far more detail

[jaunty beacon]

Cw's weather would be better

[stuck sphinx]

🚮

[wispy robin]

man lucia survivability is so bad, you can't see her hitboxes when she flying so she keeps getting caught on all the boss moves
doing cr with her solo is pure cancer

[carmine reef]

[still moat]

she has a lot of iframes though

[shadow holly]

just get hit less

[still moat]

probably one of the most iframes

[wispy robin]

you can't even dodge while doing hold atk move

[still moat]

u have iframe during hold atk

cr boss is just stupid they can target u during iframe

[wispy robin]

nice iframes she has during the 5 sec she does nothing while waiting ult

[raw swift]

What does teddy do for pyroath

[visual topaz]

smug support

[jaunty beacon]

Emotional support

[carmine reef]

it's just cope team, can't you tell by the bridget

[jaunty beacon]

Mesugaki vibes

[foggy ridge]

cope teams best teams

[still moat]

aint bridget the best budget fire tank

[carmine reef]

yeah but she's still cope vs wata, and teddy is cope too

[visual topaz]

the only wan

[woven haven]

wtf not harmo

[still moat]

well if u compare her to wata

[carmine reef]

yeah the point is that's clearly not an account that has everything

[still moat]

compared to nanamech or pulse she might be the best one

[carmine reef]

so it's cope with whatever you have

[wispy robin]

man solo lucia feels just so bad to play that solo qu still pretty chill in comparison
can't wait to see all the wata skippers calling her mid

[still moat]

just swap tbh

[foggy ridge]

would joke about lucia being mid but i felt like a sniper is currently pointing at my location rn

[still moat]

she does nothing when she has no orbs

[haughty quarry]

should I buy the crate too or just ht mats

[wispy robin]

she has like 5 sec downtime but still no way anyone on swap would do more dmg

[jaunty beacon]

The crate is a scam

[digital moat]

I'm on my knees

[haughty quarry]

why tho

[subtle zinc]

omg please dont buy the box HT only !

[jaunty beacon]

It's average upgrade mats

[haughty quarry]

yeah I decided to read the content and

[raw swift]

Be selfish

[haughty quarry]

yeah sucks
I'll go all on ht mats then

[carmine reef]

the crates are not amazing, but also it's not like you will brick by buying them

[spiral merlin]

Wtf

I just got oneshot by roseblade in wz

[carmine reef]

[subtle zinc]

lol?

[spiral merlin]

[subtle zinc]

someone not have cottie??lol

[foggy ridge]

roseblade?

[spiral merlin]

Garnet

[foggy ridge]

[carmine reef]

yes gorseblade is in light wz rn

how did i just typo that badly

[foggy ridge]

horseblade

[carmine reef]

i kinda love it though i'm leaving it LOL

[foggy ridge]

[jaunty beacon]

Y1 pgr ptsd

[woven haven]

jorseblad

[carmine reef]

i am the horse of my blade

[woven haven]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qiX75h4A_mSp1BoxYB9B5GUCx-Xidwtu1pQ6fibLjiU/https/pgr-discord-bot.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/Bricks/90_pulls.png

and now for a trip down memory lane

[sinful shadow]

Think I'm gonna have enough around when Shukra arrives?

[carmine reef]

easily

[woven haven]

wtf there’s twins

[carmine reef]

but tbh if you won't have kaleido sig, you'll be using sss wanshi in wz instead

[woven haven]

zexous and zeroxius

[carmine reef]

i was thinking he's like if zeru and i had a kid

@floral plover

[sinful shadow]

[stuck sphinx]

[shadow holly]

aight buddy

[woven haven]

ok i made an innocent comparison

i did not consent to seeing this

i did not consent to this idea

[sinful shadow]

Be cursed with this vision

[carmine reef]

i said it innocently too

not my fault you guys are imagining the dirty details

[foggy ridge]

huh

[visual topaz]

[sand laurel]

76 weeks later I still haven't bought those

[hidden forum]

No

I’m in ex

[visual topaz]

yeah saw it

[hidden forum]

[visual topaz]

on exalt msg

[hidden forum]

U saw my md hell vid

[visual topaz]

Iza wanna go adv

[hidden forum]

@fringe kestrel did u see the vid I sent

[hidden forum]

Teach him ur adv strats

[woven haven]

do you know why its called adv

[haughty quarry]

damn you must have a lot of ht mats to buy

[woven haven]

cuz if you play in that ppc still you’re in advanced dementi—

[onyx palm]

I bought them early when I was cog starved

[woven haven]

[sand laurel]

I'm swiming in dispatch doritos

[haughty quarry]

ok but ultimate ppc is hard damn

my chars dont help but
DAMN

[raw swift]

[haughty quarry]

hello coffee

[raw swift]

Im in ur walls

[fringe kestrel]

no, not yet, dealing with irl

[haughty quarry]

no youre not

[raw swift]

check again.

[haughty quarry]

hold on let me get a hammer

just make sure you dont get hurt

[raw swift]

[woven haven]

no not you
newbies can be in adv if the ult ppc week is too rough

i mean the smurfs who oneshot adv anyways and can oneshot ult ppc too but never go there

[raw swift]

[sand laurel]

can you oneshot onslaught?

[haughty quarry]

why ignore ultimate in this case then

[woven haven]

smurfing

[woven haven]

if sss+ some of the weaker bosses should be oneshottable

[sand laurel]

how we get this skin? 🤓

[woven haven]

Login event

[haughty quarry]

is that hanying

[woven haven]

that’s how it usually goes for free A rank skins

[feral pollen]

by not paying

[jaunty beacon]

By unlocking more resolution

[haughty quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-hanying-gif-14395528560320548846

[raw swift]

If u look at it closely, that is the S tank Hanying

[woven haven]

Remember people:
Tank > Amp > Attacker

[shadow holly]

[cold walrus]

any tips which cub should i prioritize to ss rank? whatever i like?

[woven haven]

Tank DPS CUBs

[feral pollen]

did you mean dmg dealer > buffer > qte bot?

[woven haven]

Then get the 5% extra dmg bonus skill on CUB SS

Tanks usually lack the high EDB stat attackers have

[onyx palm]

is this prioritizing investments?

[woven haven]

no its literally how long they last in meta and which class a unit should be if they want to be really meta

Hyperreal lasted 1.5 years
Rosetta lasted 3.5+

[sinful shadow]

3.5+ years and no new frame

[feral pollen]

new dark tank will be rosetta

[sinful shadow]

Ayo

[feral pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-16534979835682612734

[sand laurel]

anyone has image for this new bambinata skin on ishamel patch?

https://static.miraheze.org/pgrwiki/thumb/8/86/Coating-Vitrum-Alt3.png/116px-Coating-Vitrum-Alt3.png

[feral pollen]

[deft apex]

soon (tm)

[carmine reef]

who tf ghost pinged me

[deft apex]

not me but here's another

[carmine reef]

ok cutie

[remote pier]

[deft apex]

Cursed_flushed

[sand laurel]

[onyx palm]

actually my fire team is the highest score in my wz

so any help with my lightning?
https://streamable.com/2d4h8b

thanks don't go too hard

[sand laurel]

whats your inv?

[onyx palm]

SS no sig

[woven haven]

ask jeremey

[sand laurel]

pinging mod?

[onyx palm]

that's a paddlin'

[sand laurel]

@ Jeremey

[sinful shadow]

Starts with a Z ends with a U

[carmine reef]

of course it was that lil pssy

[still moat]

zeratu ? damn

[sand laurel]

zeratul

[carmine reef]

ok gooner

[thorn creek]

[onyx palm]

I think I literally cannot increase my scores this week 😭

[hidden forum]

Lmk when u watched it in case u have questions

[floral plover]

Fk iu

[carmine reef]

💅

[floral plover]

You and that child I had with you

[hidden forum]

[shadow holly]

i have questions

[hidden forum]

The md hell vid?

[shadow holly]

yea when u funding me

[hidden forum]

I’m locked in for qu

[onyx palm]

who is more important to Infinitas out of these 3? CW, Lamia and Wata

probably Lamia

[shadow holly]

[carmine reef]

cw > lamia > wata

[shadow holly]

from infinitas impact yeah
12ht prio would be the exact opposite

[onyx palm]

[shadow holly]

what a shame one doesn't exist without the other

[carmine reef]

yeah they do

fake ht

[onyx palm]

what a shame hypertuning the top row feels so bad to do

I haven't done it for anyone yet

[feral pollen]

6% edb

[rotund pagoda]

not me, have a real ping

[onyx palm]

despite sitting on these

[carmine reef]

tbh that's not actually that much

[floral plover]

[carmine reef]

that's less than 2 characters

[thorn creek]

tbh that's not actually that much

[onyx palm]

tbh that's not actually that much

[floral plover]

tbh that's not actually that much

[rotund pagoda]

tbh that's not actually that much

[lethal sun]

I got less then that bro

[carmine reef]

i mean i do too

[shadow holly]

why is bro stalking the wholesome pgro chat

[fringe kestrel]

dont think i have pulse invested like that

[shadow holly]

[hidden forum]

It kills without pulse shred

[rotund pagoda]

i just opened it and it showed that msg

[fringe kestrel]

oh

[hidden forum]

Overkill actually

[onyx palm]

is that significant?

[lethal sun]

Yes

[fringe kestrel]

yeah ill give it a try, basic 3ping ulti into basic blaze x4?

[hidden forum]

Md is left with around 2-3 bars before final ult 2 shot

Which is overkill

[hidden forum]

Yes

Forward dodge is mandatory

[fringe kestrel]

oh no

[shadow holly]

[hidden forum]

Need md to attack into ur blaze orb

[fringe kestrel]

forward dodge

[hidden forum]

Cus ur not hooking for this run

Cus time constraint

[fringe kestrel]

yeah ill see what i can do, probably take 9s

[feral pollen]

i will hook you like a proper whale

[hidden forum]

[hidden forum]

[fringe kestrel]

[hidden forum]

The whale hunter

[hidden forum]

Not effective on me cus f2p

[lethal sun]

Wait u don’t hold dodge at all on MD?

Crazy

[hidden forum]

No

[onyx palm]

the only right we get

[hidden forum]

I’m the ppc malder

I don’t hook

[lethal sun]

What

[hidden forum]

Same with my mado run

I didn’t hook

[lethal sun]

So u just went straight for blaze orb?

[hidden forum]

Ya

[lethal sun]

Interesting

[hidden forum]

And parried that mofo’s atk

[woven haven]

yeah you don’t need hold dodge if the boss attacks off the bat

on TB you can even do a 5 stack without hold dodge

just parry mid blaze orb sequence

[hidden forum]

Tb u don’t need to hook either

I saw it in setsu’s vid

Dude did that 2+3 rot

Zaza

[woven haven]

that’s what i mean yeah

as long as you can parry somehow

[feral pollen]

can i parry the whale allegations with blaze orb

[hidden forum]

[dapper skiff]

Solo 5*

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1081081138237419650.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

Cooked before even the stove is on

[onyx palm]

yeah alright I'm not trynna beat the highest ranking people

[onyx palm]

Just gimme some help instead of a skull

[dapper skiff]

I don't even know where to start

I get SS feral for the sake of not soloing with 5* cw

[onyx palm]

ok lemme swipe

[dapper skiff]

Better

[dapper skiff]

What rank btw

Leader?

livWhat

Bro dipped

[onyx palm]

elite? I think

[dapper skiff]

Bruh

Ok

I don't have any acc in elite to record a video

Just take it

Recording on leader would be difficult cause the enemies are more tankier

And probably higher fluctuation lvl too

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Ok
So

I genuinely have no idea who to ask about it

[still moat]

do hero one then

[dapper skiff]

But
@ashen edge is there any major difference between playing ss3 cw and SSS with swap?

The only difference between both should be just dmg and minor energy from swordwaves you probably don't use at all with swap

But I'm wondering if there's anything else you do on 3s

[river nymph]

[onyx palm]

take what? the L? 🗣️ 🔥

[dapper skiff]

I mean what else you could take with 5* cw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/915894882340601866.gif

Playing cw is already big L since the first place

[wispy robin]

i have ss feral 5* and my solo 5* cw still does more dmg than swap

[dapper skiff]

Even with feral weather that boost 60% lightning dmg for 8s after swapping?

Boi u need to learn some rot

Also baiting matrix with feral cause she won't have enough orbs for ult with 5*

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/915894882340601866.gif

[wispy robin]

well with feral weather it obv would be worth but otherwise

[dapper skiff]

My swap score is always better than solo 5* even on other weather

You probably did something wrong

Later waves with solo 5* in hero is awful

[wispy robin]

well my feral reso are cope but i can't be bothered investing in them at this point

[dapper skiff]

This is truly Feralskip moment of all time

[river nymph]

thats why they had to give her away

no one want her fr

[wispy robin]

it's still autodemote whenever i get light anyway because 3s is the minimal cw invest jp seems to have

[distant wren]

Oh you're on jp right? So it's luna weather then

I don't even have feral in jp so it's auto cw solo for me

[woven haven]

they gave away cw more

feral sig is paid for a reason

[dapper skiff]

More bricks for feral skippers

[rocky valley]

im going to skip eveything for DMC5

[river nymph]

[rocky valley]

just like i did for nier

[woven haven]

alright enjoy your brickistan

[river nymph]

[rocky valley]

[pastel crystal]

Can I skip watanabe weapon? I have him ss3. I lost his 8020 5 times in a row

[river nymph]

5??

[pastel crystal]

At this point I think I'll just use the resonance for Qu

[hidden forum]

[pastel crystal]

Yeah

[dapper skiff]

[hidden forum]

is that the world record for pgr off rates

[distant wren]

Ss3 is u intentionally rolling or lucky?

[pastel crystal]

I've never lost before this so I didn't know you could lose more then 3 times

[dapper skiff]

At that point no matter how value resos are I'd just scrap 3 for his sig and use 2 for qu sig reso

[river nymph]

its gotta be close

[dapper skiff]

Probably whel

[river nymph]

[pastel crystal]

No it was really lucky

[dapper skiff]

Who in the world can afford 5 sig pulls without spending

[pastel crystal]

Got him and another copy in 30 pulls

[dapper skiff]

Ok nvm

Chat

Can we call this karma?

[distant wren]

Yeah if u offrate that much then maybe scrap 3 for his sig?

[river nymph]

[unreal halo]

At that point.... Create new

[pastel crystal]

Yea its just the world correcting itself not so much karma

[thorn shale]

What should I pull as a beginner?, I just unlocked the gacha system

[unreal halo]

Watanabe

Epitaph

[pastel crystal]

I see the 6* wep gives him the extra orbs. But meh...

[thorn shale]

Do I save for 10 pull?

[dapper skiff]

Beginner's guide in pin

Don't forget

[unreal halo]

Yes

[thorn shale]

Ah okay

[pastel crystal]

Like he himself is crazy. But his wep seems kinda w.e. it doesn't give shred like Nanami's. And it doesn't impact core rotation it seems outside a more comfortable 2nd rotation. But I could be wrong, so that's why I'm asking ig

[thorn shale]

Who should I pick in S rank selector

[pastel crystal]

Rosetta likely depending on which one

There are several

[carmine reef]

how does letting you do an extra rotation not count as impacting core rotation lol

[pastel crystal]

Old guides say Liv Lumi, but they are outdated

[woven haven]

its crazy good
6 orbs per rotation is 60% of his orbs

Double rotation = double dmg

also he needs wep reso for lucia/luna teams

[pastel crystal]

Oh is it everytime he enters core, instead of once per time switched in?

[carmine reef]

also it unlocks harmo

it procs up to twice every swap in

[woven haven]

everytime you use ult1, gain 3 orbs

this can happen twice per swap

[carmine reef]

so every ult1

[pastel crystal]

Oh okay. That makes more of a difference

[carmine reef]

up to twice per swap

[unreal halo]

Entropy

[thorn shale]

Oh entropy not liv?

[pastel crystal]

Tenebrion or pulse imo

[carmine reef]

liv is nowhere near the right answer
tenebrion is also nowhere near the right answer

both of those are awful options

[pastel crystal]

Pulse can be used to support watanabe id think

[carmine reef]

pulse is the option for people that wouldn't have wata but wata is right now so like. just get wata

[pastel crystal]

Liv is outdated

[carmine reef]

you're better off getting entropy if you lack stigmata

for a newbie pulse will do absolutely nothing

[thorn shale]

Yeah I'm very new

[pastel crystal]

As someone who started with Entropy, it felt awful

[carmine reef]

ofc it's awful, but it's better than an empty slot

[unreal halo]

Get entropy

[pastel crystal]

And that was just competing against Alpha

[carmine reef]

if you don't have entropy you'll be swapping between just rose and alisa which is even worse

[woven haven]

not teneb

[unreal halo]

Entropy

[woven haven]

its either

1. pulse to hold eins for wata
2. entropy as cope phys option with alisa and rosetta

[dapper skiff]

Aether

[woven haven]

only those 2 are viable reasons

[unreal halo]

Entropy get

[dapper skiff]

What are the new top up rewards on qu again?

[carmine reef]

if you search he already has a big long msg about it

[woven haven]

just search the word invitation in this channel

[carmine reef]

#📨・meta-help message

[pastel crystal]

Yeah pulse was mainly to support watanabe. Tenebrion is a decent starter dark tank. But A rank 21 exists so...

[thorn shale]

Uh yeah am confused

[dapper skiff]

Do we have any paid selector for the next several patches until Hanying?

[carmine reef]

teneb aint decent in any sense of the word

[woven haven]

sss rank 21 powercreeps base S teneb and even further next patch

teneb is actually worst dark tank

[pastel crystal]

Wym by next patch?

[carmine reef]

bc of bath rework

[pastel crystal]

Ah.

Yea I had him at ss with sig and her with sss+ and sig and she always felt better

Plus she has grouping

[carmine reef]

and for a newbie, pulse provides literally 0 value to wata that any other fire unit wouldn't also provide, cause they're not going to have pulse sig or the resources to roll 6class reso

[unreal halo]

Bath!??

[pastel crystal]

21 bath

[carmine reef]

bathlon

• the other basic ele mems

[unreal halo]

Bathing

[pastel crystal]

[shadow holly]

ok so you can just get entropy
pulse is a viable pick to be an Einsteina holder for Wata, but you can do the same with Sophia, and as a newbie, you won't go for perfect memory resos or signature weapon for pulse, for her to have any kind of extra impact
it's just kind of pointless

[unreal halo]

[woven haven]

yeah and he gets worse soon so

[pastel crystal]

He has that cool stun on his blue orb at least

[woven haven]

blue orb that you’ll never see

[unreal halo]

Is max out palefire still good if you don't have Epi?

[carmine reef]

no

[unreal halo]

Like Sig, and everything

[carmine reef]

you can max out any other fire unit in the game and they still won't be good compared to wata

[woven haven]

nope

[shadow holly]

"good" as in you simply don't have any alternatives

[thorn shale]

Alright, thanks mate

[unreal halo]

IF I don't have wata

[woven haven]

Wata is like the cornerstone of the team

There is no getting around him

[unreal halo]

This....

[carmine reef]

then you'd literally use an off-ele team instead of palefire

[unreal halo]

IF

[unreal halo]

Aw

[carmine reef]

palefire is not good in any sense of the word at this point in time

literally pointless to invest unless you're a weirdo that wants to do it for guild battle

[unreal halo]

But but.... His leap seems good

[pastel crystal]

BRS clears

[unreal halo]

Heh

[carmine reef]

it is good, within the context of his own kit

but he's still too weak to justify overall

[shadow holly]

I mean
that way you could say Lucia dawn is good too if you don't have CW
you can make anyone "good" by not having the better option
but it won't make them actually good

[pastel crystal]

Guild battle is the best content in the game wym

[unreal halo]

Did wz ever get a revamp of things?

[carmine reef]

multiple

[pastel crystal]

Where else can I use A ranks

[unreal halo]

Damnit

[pastel crystal]

And Sophia sig dps

[unreal halo]

That's why I can't get to wave 17 again with s-rank cw

[woven haven]

multiple times
each time punishing you more for not having the right characters

[unreal halo]

And solo even

[woven haven]

well i mean yeah

its swap weather now….

[unreal halo]

aawww

[woven haven]

Solo CW is always weaker than Swap CW if you have the proper investment

[pastel crystal]

Wave 17 with solo cw? What tier?

[woven haven]

Solo is basically what you want to avoid in pgr unless you have no other choice

[unreal halo]

I meant wayy back... Like in March

[carmine reef]

he's probably in elite or smth lol

[unreal halo]

Leg

[pastel crystal]

At ss?

[woven haven]

no way that’s legend lmao

[pastel crystal]

[woven haven]

Has to be elite/leader at best

[carmine reef]

he said base s even

[unreal halo]

Nah.... I lied

Master still

[carmine reef]

what

[pastel crystal]

I usually go back and forth between legend and hero. I don't min max rotations enough lol

Like always number 1 in hero, then maybe fall behind in legend. Just like red lotus in Hi3

[shadow holly]

it sure is amusing how everyone somehow mixes up leader and legend

[woven haven]

no as in
What bracket of WZ

[unreal halo]

Hero

Leader

[pastel crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/attack-on-titan-horse-gif-23141887

[unreal halo]

I meant leader as in #1 in hero

[pastel crystal]

Mandatory scout speech

[carmine reef]

bro literally what are you talking about

[unreal halo]

He was good like levi-potential

[shadow holly]

where reserve gatekeepers at

[unreal halo]

Imagine he survived

[pastel crystal]

I kinda want to see what reserve looks like ngl lol

[woven haven]

i think he means he’s no 1 in hero

[unreal halo]

Yes

[woven haven]

… with a base S solo CW
on Feral Weather

[pastel crystal]

Is that where all the dps Changyu's are at

[unreal halo]

Got no feral

[woven haven]

idk but my bullsh*t sensor is blaring
either that or glb standard has really fallen

that a base S solo CW can top a hero bracket

[unreal halo]

Glb has fallen....

[carmine reef]

it's definitely cap

[pastel crystal]

It can't lol

[unreal halo]

It has truly fallen

[pastel crystal]

Ss with sig tho yea probably

[carmine reef]

not lightning

ss+sig is not enough to top lightning scores in wz cause everyone and their mother whaled out on cw

[raw swift]

Leg?

[unreal halo]

Legend

[pastel crystal]

Post vid of your run.

[unreal halo]

Legs thighs

[woven haven]

Yeah ok he’s just pulling our legs

get back to your backup zone mfer

[unreal halo]

[pastel crystal]

I have to see this

[unreal halo]

Yes sir!

[raw swift]

Ah legs

[woven haven]

bullsh*t he’s in hero or legend with Base S

[unreal halo]

Yes, Dawn's legs

[unreal halo]

Yeah it's bs

[pastel crystal]

Why would anyone have base S CW anyway tho lol

[unreal halo]

Use Dawn all the way

[pastel crystal]

Do we not get enough paincage skulls?

[carmine reef]

my experience in na is that even in leader mfs have sss cw because she was like the most popular unit ever

[raw swift]

suffering

[carmine reef]

in hero rn i'm barely top 3 in light zone rn and the cycle just started

[pastel crystal]

People have been going all out the last couple of patches. Lamia and CW everyone has sss it seems

[carmine reef]

i don't see that with lamia at all

and even the people who do, they have no idea how to play her

i'm regularly stomping everyone in dark with ss0 lamia solo

[woven haven]

and not a single competent Feral build

[carmine reef]

nobody knows how to play dark in wz

[woven haven]

its all solo cw down to leader

[pastel crystal]

What are you running on feral?

[carmine reef]

but i rarely even get top 3 in light zone

and i got ss0+sig invest

[pastel crystal]

I just gave her harmonization this week

[carmine reef]

4fran 4guin

[woven haven]

as of now in GLB you should be doing 4fran2cottie2guin at sss or above feral for optimal plays

change guin to eins after qu patch

But yeah broke ferals are 4fran/4guin 4fran/2guin/2eins

[carmine reef]

only changing guin to eins assuming garnet is harmo

[river nymph]

[carmine reef]

my garnet is 5*

feral stayin on that guin

[woven haven]

is that no rights i hear

[carmine reef]

considering when i started playing it's amazing that i have garnet at all

i have all the rights in the world compared to the arclight i should have

[unreal halo]

Have chrome?

[pastel crystal]

Ig I have 2 eins, 2 cottie, 4 Fran rn. And 4 dv 4 Tifa on Vera.

But I have 2 gui harmonized as well

[carmine reef]

i'm not sure 4dv on garnet is doing much for you in wz

[woven haven]

why is dv on ga—

[pastel crystal]

Why not lol

[carmine reef]

i feel like you'd rather have dv on feral or you'd rather just do like
4tifa 2dv 2eins garnet

and then 4fran 4guin on feral

the 4dv on garnet isn't making much sense

desynced feral qte doesn't do anything for you really

she can 4guin in one cast but only if she heals all 3 party members at once, and if you do this you're not getting the extra dv qte

so you're running 4dv just for 20% atk on slam

[pastel crystal]

Yea

[carmine reef]

either run 4dv on feral so you can take advantage of more shred procs, or just don't run 4dv at all

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-side-eye-side-eye-meme-ginger-cat-gif-9337430562745204577

[pastel crystal]

Yea I also have 4pc dv hypertuned on feral as well.

[carmine reef]

and considering this is a fairly tanky boss rot, you shouldn't need extra garnet flags anyway

[pastel crystal]

She has like 4 total sets done lol

[carmine reef]

so i think you just shouldn't have 4dv at all here

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-sideye-cat-cat-staring-side-eye-cat-side-eye-gif-14813005665353532624

[woven haven]

hello traitor

[pastel crystal]

Vera still wants 4pc Tifa right?

[carmine reef]

yes

[pine slate]

[shadow holly]

just prepare heisen already
why so much text

[carmine reef]

i will not

[pastel crystal]

Heisen goes on cw right?

[carmine reef]

.......bruh

[pastel crystal]

Or will she still rock cottie

[woven haven]

garnet

[shadow holly]

CW can't go without Cottie in WZ
period

[woven haven]

cw is unfortunately running cottie until umbrasurge

[pastel crystal]

Ah

[carmine reef]

you have to be gigawhel to be in legend with the zaza you're thinking up right

[woven haven]

Umbrasurge can run bathlon since Cottie is dead for her umbrasurge rotation

[shadow holly]

tho it would still only be viable at 3s

[pastel crystal]

Just tell me how to be good already

I just throw money at the game, you can't expect me to know everything

[shadow holly]

copy Jeremey

[carmine reef]

confirmed

[shadow holly]

#📨・meta-help message

[pastel crystal]

Google doc meta

[visual topaz]

@clever schooner

Epitaph heartbeats missiles

[shadow holly]

tf is this

[visual topaz]

DFM

[shadow holly]

yeah ik it's dfm

[woven haven]

MO SHIWA OSORENAI

[shadow holly]

but wow

[visual topaz]

Like

Rly broken

[haughty quarry]

Does kuro give us something on christmas or they just dont give a fck

[pastel crystal]

What did I just see

[visual topaz]

Gloria missile support on empy with the carrelyn switch in buff
I looted 6* artifact that gave EDB per unused recruit point hence why I don't run leenis
Wata ran the mem that reduced ult cost + full ult gauge at start + 50% chance to refill 100 energy after ult + add on with 100 limit energy

[woven haven]

istg if anyone asks if lux can work for ion lucia

[carmine reef]

boone

[visual topaz]

[woven haven]

Have people not seen how jumpy lucia is

[visual topaz]

Hyperploom

[woven haven]

or like do they have no amps at all

[haughty quarry]

Can lucia work for lux on ion

[visual topaz]

But Ayla is free to grind

[carmine reef]

as someone who was not present for veritas era, i think constantly about how lux must have been goated for veritas

[pastel crystal]

I use dps Lux in Guild battle and that's fun

[thorn creek]

lightning was terrible all the way

[visual topaz]

[carmine reef]

surely not when she came out

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

bro by the time you’re talking about ion teams feral is free in 3 patches
nanami is released in 2

And any amp would be better than lux

why are people so insistent

[visual topaz]

Surely Capri is better than lux

[haughty quarry]

Lux will just be the evil liv meme

[woven haven]

on using the worst possible option

[visual topaz]

[woven sable]

its not a meme

liv is evil

[woven haven]

she’s not using her dark buff so

[haughty quarry]

Livil

[woven haven]

Can DV Guin

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

[pastel crystal]

Free dead line timing I guess.

[visual topaz]

I'm more focused on Luna supremacy

[haughty quarry]

I imagine how it must have been when luna was good

[river nymph]

[haughty quarry]

Must've been fun

[carmine reef]

it's ok luna will be good again in a couple month

[woven sable]

luna so painful to play

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

Ishmael is so painful to play

4 inputs in 0.5s

[thorn creek]

NICE

[woven haven]

[haughty quarry]

Pgr is so painful to play

[visual topaz]

Mommy is gating elders

[thorn creek]

Life is so painful to play

[visual topaz]

Based mommy

[haughty quarry]

But what about new rosetta

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[woven sable]

life is p2w and im f2p

[river nymph]

no kidding

[haughty quarry]

Keep yourself safe

[thorn creek]

Life is a survival of the fittest

[carmine reef]

[visual topaz]

Bout to expose dumb quack rc count

[haughty quarry]

Life is meta and I am A rank team user

[woven sable]

its 0

[river nymph]

what did he mean by f2p in real life

[glass flint]

Wild 💀

[haughty quarry]

Broke

[woven haven]

Ishmael 4 ult requires 4 inputs in 0.5s and 32 inputs in 9.99s

[haughty quarry]

Real life brick

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

[visual topaz]

[river nymph]

reroll life

[haughty quarry]

Let me try

[visual topaz]

Get a better spawn point

[carmine reef]

last time this came up my best idea was someone living with their parents

[haughty quarry]

I'll warn u if that works

[carmine reef]

0 bills

[thorn creek]

reincarnate to an ant

[river nymph]

[thorn creek]

Lift things up x10 ur weight is pretty pog

[haughty quarry]

Reincarnate in isekai as a rock

[woven sable]

ants cant feel terror

[carmine reef]

that's just fumetsu no anata e

[river nymph]

[haughty quarry]

Aint no way that exists

[glass flint]

Can I get some help here?
Rn im rocking Crimson Weave with Liv Lux, is there anyone from my free vouchers I should get to add to the team instead of using Nanami or should I just keep using Namani?

[thorn creek]

Nah i'd be the main character frfr

[carmine reef]

https://mangadex.org/title/34e45b02-b5c8-4a4b-a21a-7b5059391dc8/to-your-eternity?page=1

[haughty quarry]

GOD WHY EVERYONE HAS CW

[haughty quarry]

Feels like Im the only one without her

[barren plank]

May I ask how u got CW

[carmine reef]

cause she's like the most popular unit ever

[glass flint]

I got Crimson Weave Day 2

[haughty quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-u-screaming-in-the-hotel-room-tpab-tpab-poem-to-pimp-a-butterfly-gif-4005569222539385807

[glass flint]

From the RnD

[carmine reef]

arrival puller

[haughty quarry]

Arrival banner?

[glass flint]

Yea?

I'm new to the game

[shadow holly]

let's not lie at least
that she sucks
she's falling off but she's not bad

[barren plank]

How is that better yet worse at the same time

[haughty quarry]

Isnt crimson weave an option in base banner tho

[glass flint]

Yea

[haughty quarry]

Or am I trippin

[carmine reef]

anyway the answer is fill out the team with chrome: arclight for lightning tank @glass flint

[glass flint]

That's how I got her

Cool

[barren plank]

Wait are u F2P or spender

Also did u get lucky or smth

[glass flint]

F2p but I have cash

[steady otter]

11s MD @shadow holly
2x wata ult
2x double qte

[haughty quarry]

Rich f2p

[glass flint]

I have 1k ready if I'm deperate

[barren plank]

Holy

[glass flint]

Working bud

[haughty quarry]

Whole lotta money

[rugged cloud]

animetrash:

f2p mentality

[shadow holly]

tf u do insta QTEs at the start or what
so that they come back so fast

but lmao I expected longer clear

[steady otter]

im dedge

[shadow holly]

thanku for ur service

[haughty quarry]

@half glen

[shadow holly]

[haughty quarry]

Im sorry, I will retire

[glass flint]

😂

[deft apex]

I will ploom

[haughty quarry]

Bloom

[rugged cloud]

come and spend and get rights

[deft apex]

[glass flint]

😂

I'll spend when it's necessary

[dapper skiff]

You could say rn

[visual topaz]

[glass flint]

Welp I'm waiting till get back home to buy BP if that amounts to anything ig

[shadow holly]

[glass flint]

Cuz rn I'm in MX and I dunno how shi works

[rugged cloud]

buy monthly pass A firsst
more worth than BP

[glass flint]

Ok

[rugged cloud]

[shadow holly]

more whaling more whaling

[deft apex]

Keeping glb alive

[quiet lily]

[pine slate]

11s hell?

[quiet lily]

stop corrupting those newbie

[pine slate]

Surely not

[rugged cloud]

just telling him to get rights

[haughty quarry]

No trs dont let them whel

[steady otter]

bruh, 11s low invest hell
yall should report me

[pine slate]

[steady otter]

nah, its chaos

[pine slate]

Ah

[shadow holly]

oh wtf not hell
my goat washed

[steady otter]

need full blaze orb on hell

[hidden forum]

[steady otter]

cant skip any movement for dmg

[pine slate]

U use cottie?

[shadow holly]

non cottie cant double rot without priming bullets/blaze orbs

[steady otter]

all cottie, so ppl not gonna yapping just bcs fred

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[pine slate]

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

Pret set

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

nope

[glass flint]

Question what are the odds of getting the 6* weapon you want for your character on the 1st mutli?

[still moat]

so poverty invest hell md is 11s ?

[normal sierra]

check the rates and math it out

[carmine reef]

40%

[glass flint]

Oooooh

[normal sierra]

no, that was chaos, not hell

[shadow holly]

no its chaos windbell said

[river nymph]

[still moat]

[carmine reef]

actually wait no

[glass flint]

I thought it be lower

[still moat]

so hell is worse ?

[carmine reef]

40% is the odds of getting any 6* weapon

[shadow holly]

4% for 6* weapon per pull
not 40% but pretty good

[keen pumice]

Helloooo

[carmine reef]

so 32% considering 80/20

[shadow holly]

[keen pumice]

Is the drop of the Watanabe summon 100% guaranteed?

[still moat]

i probably cant replicate this on global

[shadow holly]

bro not everyone is 5 years old you dont have to dumb down percentile chances

[keen pumice]

I'm new to the game LMAOOOO

[shadow holly]

[carmine reef]

whats ur problem

[quiet lily]

hi new to the game LMAOOOO

[shadow holly]

well yes if you get an S rank character from the debut banner, its guaranteed to be watanabe

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

ur my problem

[glass flint]

Ok....

[carmine reef]

[river nymph]

[glass flint]

I was only asking cuz I wanted to know how lucky I got

[normal sierra]

can't really compare current globlul ppc with current cn ppc, the HP of bosses are also adjusted with the removal of test/elite stages on CN

[quiet lily]

[glass flint]

Cuz my rng is usually not THAT good

[keen pumice]

Interesting, so is it worth doing a summon?

[still moat]

do they ? i thought its only the score

[river nymph]

[ashen edge]

only score change

[keen pumice]

Thank yooouuu, I'm from Brazil H

[fringe kestrel]

@hidden forum u got chaos moon? i somehow dont have enough damage 🫠

[ashen edge]

hp still same

[still moat]

cause its still knight - chaos - hell

[quiet lily]

yes it is recommended to pull on that 100% rate up banner

[hidden forum]

same setup as luna hell kill

[keen pumice]

Thanks, he must be a very good character I still have a lot to learn about the game, but I'm hooked.

[hidden forum]

luna hell hp vs md chaos hp

[fringe kestrel]

that looks way higher

this right setup for him?

[river nymph]

[hidden forum]

ye

[river nymph]

holy r3

[rugged cloud]

[shadow holly]

luna has edr tho

[river nymph]

[hidden forum]

dont act like u dont have it either

[normal sierra]

really? I remember someone saying their HP changed too
ohh well, if it's not changed, das better

[quiet lily]

[shadow holly]

quite a lot actually

[keen pumice]

Lots of new things coming to the CN version of the game, I saw a bit of the live stream and there will be a collab with DMC

[summer topaz]

when does luna gets booted out of the rotation that long intro can be really annoying

[river nymph]

yeah old bosses have whack edr

[hidden forum]

surely edr makes up for almost 2m hp

[fringe kestrel]

idk how i dont have the damage then

[hidden forum]

[shadow holly]

its like 20% edr on hell bro

[hidden forum]

can u send ur run

[fringe kestrel]

yeah one sec

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

Luna patch

Its also the patch ballard gets introduced in ult ppc

[hidden forum]

[fringe kestrel]

could it be cause i dont have empy harm

[hidden forum]

20% on both bosses

[quiet lily]

luna and machi retires right in that patch?

[mighty tusk]

Yes

[quiet lily]

no more catwalk

[mighty tusk]

And once sketchers is in glb, redliv will be retired

[thorn creek]

but i like catgirls

[fringe kestrel]

[summer topaz]

good 2 bosses that bleeds time for no damn reason are gone soon

[river nymph]

thats elemental resist pal

gotta check the note

[thorn creek]

damn no machi walk down stairs for 1 hour

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1292331233111572540/IMG_8961.gif

[normal sierra]

the heck, what happened with that boss stats page? it looks so messy now

[hidden forum]

[fringe kestrel]

do i need gloria + guin on emp

[river nymph]

[hidden forum]

since ur going for 8s

let the 3rd blaze orb animation play out a little

and see if ur missing dmg after

[fringe kestrel]

okay

[shadow holly]

wait wtf @ashen edge did smth break in the boss stats section on the sheet
edr shows as just numbers not %

[normal sierra]

why are EDR values at the "Notes" in integer values?

[shadow holly]

this is supposed to be edr for luna

[fringe kestrel]

yeah that worked

[river nymph]

can 4stack ult get 8s?

[fringe kestrel]

guess ill go 8s

[river nymph]

[hidden forum]

u already saw my vid