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[shadow holly]

wdym it's just cutscene spam braindamaged one button gp

[wispy robin]

tbh if ur not whale who pull fate the only gacha part of pgr is weap banner

[zenith thorn]

blanc said pgr is becoming braindead so it must be true 😡😡😡😡

[wispy robin]

the rest is just reso management like in good old soshage

[nimble plinth]

[shadow holly]

[nimble plinth]

me when there is no subway surfer in the corner of my jpeg cutscenes

[feral pollen]

not even they straight up removed possibility of infinite offrates

[wispy robin]

it's still gacha whether you pull early or pull pity

[still moat]

where is my early pity ishmael

[shadow holly]

nuh uh

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-ishmael-pgr-pgr-ishmael-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16903381185403219280

[shadow holly]

bro wants early pity
imagine the audacity
in my full pity game

[still moat]

i first pulled another wata few days ago

that couldve been ishmael

[nimble plinth]

so i just throw everything here basically

[feral pollen]

yeah

[wispy robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1295720182093840485/rgb_engine.gif

[feral pollen]

dump everything there

[still moat]

[shadow holly]

kwhel

[still moat]

[wispy robin]

i'm still salty that on the alt that i made for returnee event i lucked out and got luna in 10 pulls
now you can be sure i'm never getting early on my main ever

[still moat]

real gambler pull fate banner

its either 1 pull or 99 pull no inbetween

[feral pollen]

69th pull trust

[still moat]

i'll take that over this

[feral pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1162078836352110672/1083112453992353822.gif?ex=653aa140&is=65282c40&hm=e100f5a3fdaee77eff3ce31f3999f616aa4730d1be370e5c277f941326aa965a&

[slender aurora]

incredible bc count

simply magnificent

[still moat]

peak poverty

[feral pollen]

links

[vale raft]

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[wispy robin]

bruh this is so funny i literally managed to get every single side reward before rolling red even once

[foggy ridge]

fk

[zenith thorn]

bump those numbers up

[shadow holly]

an improvement, gud

[visual topaz]

sounds like waves spawn score

[barren plank]

lol 😭

[zenith thorn]

not 1m 😡😡😡😡

ok nah but 50k is huge

[wispy robin]

surely can't lose this one

[slender aurora]

im only seeing success rn

[woven haven]

wow

ishmael consumes 21 orbs per rotation

[woven haven]

luna consumes 21-24

[slender aurora]

surely she has ranks or smth to help lower that orb amount

[zenith thorn]

greedy greedy women

[slender aurora]

surely

[woven haven]

yes she does

[foggy ridge]

[zenith thorn]

orb refillmeny

[wispy robin]

surely she is still playable at ss0

[zenith thorn]

1m passable pog?

go push 1m

[slender aurora]

maaaan get back in that wz and get that 1m

[foggy ridge]

i wasnt taking qtes seriously

[slender aurora]

lock in

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/locking-in-locked-in-gif-8219871157839817111

[slender aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/choerry-yerim-loona-loonatheworld-hula-hoop-gif-27024404

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mizuki-pjsk-prsk-akiyama-mizukaboom-gif-27233729

[nimble plinth]

update

[zenith thorn]

eh that's normal

[slender aurora]

yup

[zenith thorn]

you aren't guaranteed to get early

[slender aurora]

just gotta keep going

[wispy robin]

story rushing time

[nimble plinth]

yeah thats a given

just one day one lucky early hit rng god please

back to the mines i go

[zenith thorn]

2y in and i have never got early

[wispy robin]

time to hit that 59 early

[nimble plinth]

[zenith thorn]

sh*tty game should uninstall asap

[slender aurora]

1y in and ive hit early twice 🙋‍♂️

[woven haven]

Ishmael orbs per rotation assuming ultima, sig wep r1 with DLT
6 on swap in (+3 on first swap and every 45s, so about every swap now thanks to timestop)
6 from signature
6 from core
guaranteed matrix = 1 ping mechanic

she actually generates more orbs than she eats now

[slender aurora]

once on feral once on wata

[still moat]

is this trslao irl ?

[zenith thorn]

oh f*ck you

[slender aurora]

i went for SSS wata btw

[zenith thorn]

i hope you

[slender aurora]

terrible ratios

[woven haven]

ishmael the orb generating machine

[nimble plinth]

and so by Qu patch/during Qu patch I get another 60 pulls basically thats how the rythm goes?

[wispy robin]

ofc you gonna get early eventually by doing 500 pulls per patch

[slender aurora]

wdym im not an SSS player

im an SS whel that spent multiple months of monthly/bp surplus on wata

[still moat]

[slender aurora]

oh damn so many orbs i thought it was gonna be worse than that

[wispy robin]

would need to get extra 4k from story or other perma content
or just get pass to be safe

[woven haven]

wellllllllllllllllllllllllll
this is assuming SS3 + DLT rotation anyways

[slender aurora]

dont tell me SS is a cooked rank for ish

[woven haven]

she needs it for 3u2k rotation

[feral pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[nimble plinth]

alright alright, what spreadsheet is that?

[woven haven]

idk i think you should be more grateful sss isn't rotation changing they put all that in SS3

[slender aurora]

💀💀💀💀💀

SS ish is cooked, got it

[wispy robin]

should be from here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nNauBXGcHv_7AepLWBLo4ykl3V_EhxpK/edit?gid=224598720#gid=224598720

[slender aurora]

she wouldnt happen to be voucherable would she

[nimble plinth]

tyty

[woven haven]

nope

and i would queue up Hanying and Lucia SS3 before Ishmael

[slender aurora]

oh fantastic so thats multiple important SS3's back to back

hanying and lucia im not worried abt

my plan rn is hanying ss3 from standard and lucia from pulls

[wispy robin]

the question is how high score diff is between ss and ss0 in practice
surelt it shouldn't be han tier..

[shadow holly]

not like it suddenly would spike the difficulty of hero retains

global hero will always not be hard at basic SS0 invest

[zenith thorn]

tbf guy had a genuine question

people with no prior info of affix will have 0 clue how affix work

[woven haven]

he's fine its just a syndrome of people assuming leap anims are always useful

they haven't figured out that after garn, there's no new anim that's universally useful

Empyrea: She pees on the ground after ult woooo
Daren: Hold atk mid air turned out to be useless for dark, and ion doesn't use it after nanami
Balter: Trueslash only
CW: Umbrasurge only

[zenith thorn]

instead of animation,think it's more towards the kit itself
since they are used to
leap = upgrading base kit

but i see your point

[wispy robin]

99% of glb still have 0 idea whats affix

[zenith thorn]

ya

[lusty tendon]

why would anyone care about something not out yet

[zenith thorn]

yaya

as long they aren't spewing bs think it's fine

[slender aurora]

gph when the average pgr player isnt rotting in the gph mines to learn everything abt future content:

[woven haven]

i mean even

[slender aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-emoji-funny-gif-25240293

[woven haven]

CA leap kit has useless stuff in it

like that ult final hit

[lusty tendon]

there's only like 3 people in this chat who actually play wz well anyways

[zenith thorn]

[lusty tendon]

affix isn't changing anything much for everyone else here

[zenith thorn]

affix is only going to affect no lifers anyway

[lusty tendon]

[slender aurora]

right

[zenith thorn]

below leader no rights

[woven haven]

its going to affect hero wz players

leader and below yeah fk them

[livid lark]

[hazy sandal]

What is hero

[visual topaz]

go mald fate banner

this mode is fun

[zenith thorn]

sub race people that can't get into legend

[lusty tendon]

i got 5 wata in 25k bc

[hazy sandal]

Never heard of that

[visual topaz]

i'm talking about insta kill

[hazy sandal]

[zenith thorn]

good

[wispy robin]

i'm just going to bet that no one on jp will know affix rots cause theres literally 0 accessible info around

[woven haven]

the thing is people have the misconception that the new flashy anims are an upgrade over the base animations in recent leaps

so they'll be spamming stuff like cw new leap passive in lightning not realising she's not dealing lightning anymore

[lusty tendon]

it's ok those people will stay where they are now

[zenith thorn]

those kind of people will help me retain hero and promote to legend anyway

[lusty tendon]

the fuck is this

[visual topaz]

keep chainoing 1,5% on all mobs and boss

[visual topaz]

fate banner simulator

[zenith thorn]

bro is fate pulling insta das crazy

[raw swift]

phat whel simulator

[visual topaz]

must kill waves of mobs and bosses with 1,5% death rate

[lusty tendon]

never seen that mode before

[visual topaz]

score is 3 nodes + ending death animation

can prolly go lower with enough luck

but i spent too much luck alrdy

might get killed by a truck tmr

[lusty tendon]

[visual topaz]

this patch gamemode

[hazy sandal]

Cn now has candy crush permanent event

[lusty tendon]

this is the best game mode

about time

[hazy sandal]

Time to be a pro candycrush gamer

[woven haven]

permanent setsu dating gamemode when

[visual topaz]

cook your kimchi like a chief

[hazy sandal]

Btw I saw they were gonna remove the void shield at wz

[zealous goblet]

How do I get this dumb game mode rng to give me Epitaph's Super Ego mod

[hazy sandal]

Did someone lied to me

[woven haven]

they removed in beta
probably either

1. they didn’t carry it over to live server
2. this week’s wz is old and next week’s onwards is new

[stuck sphinx]

[woven haven]

[hazy sandal]

[stuck sphinx]

can I sign up

[hazy sandal]

So anyways I’ve been deceived

🔫

[woven haven]

void wz change in beta was:

1. Removed Shields every 3 waves
2. Removed “All Attributes including Physical deal +100% dmg” modifier

But it was an actual beta change not a lie

the question is whether live server carries it over

[hazy sandal]

No further notice bout that

[zenith thorn]

it would make sense if it were updated in the new cycle no?

since current cycle is old

[woven haven]

we don’t know anyways

Didn’t see it in patch notes

so either it was just a test or we got baited

[wispy robin]

onslaught ppc also didn't appear till the end of week cycle

[shadow holly]

mob phys, duo dark
Capri weather

[raw swift]

tf does "Hyperincesting" mean

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[raw swift]

[deft apex]

Hyperincest

[split ridge]

deadmaster isnt available in celica's class for me. why?

[haughty quarry]

Hyperreal

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

[deft apex]

Not yet in celica, somewhere in the future she will be IF you fought her during the event

[split ridge]

ah i see. yeah i fought her in the story

[wispy robin]

what is this thing that opens at 120lvl

[zenith thorn]

dm will probably show up in ppc just like how machi show up in ppc

[deft apex]

Probably a 2nd wall

[zenith thorn]

2nd frame stuff

wall frsme

[wispy robin]

why locking it to 120lvl

[raw swift]

Uhhh, more space for putting ur achievement stuffs

[zenith thorn]

no rights

[raw swift]

cuz... Dead game

[deft apex]

Isnt machi exclusive to pgr though? Even though it was introduced during nier collab

[zenith thorn]

oh

was it?

[deft apex]

I dont think machi exists in the nier-verse
But i could be totally wrong lmao

[zenith thorn]

ok ye machiveili is inclusive to pgr verse

[foggy ridge]

too tired now. cant break past 1m

[true dragon]

hi guys may I ask if the weap and CUB selector we get on this revamped RC rewards get updated every patch?

[wispy robin]

same as standard selector

[true dragon]

wdym?

[wispy robin]

adds 2 patch after release

[stray siren]

it does

[true dragon]

ohhh okie

Thank youuu

[wispy robin]

wait i just realized i will be getting my free dlt right in time for han release what a timing

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

what's the recharge there calculated in

[wispy robin]

yen

[woven haven]

yen

remember they have no RC so they use yen directly

[shadow holly]

[wispy robin]

i wonder what the lore behind them having no rc

[woven haven]

publisher is different

[dapper skiff]

Jp regulation?

[wispy robin]

kr also has no rc

[river nymph]

[thin zodiac]

im new to pgr, is there a way to buy coating blueprints?

[meager iris]

what build I should first start with for qu patch? like for which character?

[meager iris]

dorm mostly

[dapper skiff]

Can pre farm ice team set for qu first, with harmo qu goes 4 Chen jiyuan as well

After you're done with ice, you can start building fire team set

Either hyperreal shake for wz with harmo or Watanabe Shakespeare set for ppc dps (with ult reso, not class yet)

After done on both, can do dark afterwards

Followed by physical and lighting last

[meager iris]

I will start with qu when she comes, will Ayla change?

[thin zodiac]

how do i get them from the dorm? 😓

[dapper skiff]

Ayla will use support set most of time once qu debut

So you just change her to DV set or healer set in ppc

Depends on the case

[wispy robin]

the question is whether you will pull qu sig or not
if no sig better invest in other teams first because it will be really bad

[meager iris]

so guin for all content or only on ppc? dv is on glory for now no?

[wispy robin]

dv ayla wz dv glory ppc

[meager iris]

wz dv ayla? what about glory?

[shadow holly]

2/2/2

lantern eins Gloria

glorbage no rights

[meager iris]

[wispy robin]

no lantern = bricked ice

[meager iris]

don't say it

[shadow holly]

true
damn my ice bricked for WZ
now I can skip qu

[meager iris]

I don't have it

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

fr

who needs qu

[wispy robin]

i put 2dv instead because idk what else to put

[dapper skiff]

2 Chen so his qte actually deals dmg

clueless

[meager iris]

yea from 0 to 0.1

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

will you switch to ayla in wz?

[dapper skiff]

No

Bricked dmg

[meager iris]

so solo qu

can she solo the whole wz tho?

[shadow holly]

yes very fun

[still moat]

[wispy robin]

after 300 restarts if lucky

[meager iris]

restart 2000 time because you get 2-1 orbs

[shadow holly]

[still moat]

how to solo qu crash course

[meager iris]

so ice wz whatever till wanshi ok

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

= don't
uninstall

[still moat]

cmiiw but iirc ice team is the strongest ele for a while after qu arrival

[wispy robin]

ice wz gonna carry you hard if you over restart everyone else

[still moat]

she is just that good

[wispy robin]

make sure to prepare that dlt though it gave me +500k score alone

[meager iris]

I don't deny how good she is but I can't wait to restart 3000 times to get perfect orbs and misclick and f the whole run and alt+F4

this looks fun

[lethal sun]

Nice lantern

[dapper skiff]

You forgot the part to accidentally type kyfyj from slamming your keyboard with your right hand

[meager iris]

kuro don't want to give us another chance to get lantern?

[dapper skiff]

No

Bricked

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

[meager iris]

time to suffer with ayla resos

[still moat]

they are still releasing ass 5 star mems

[wispy robin]

you can replace it on ppc only

[still moat]

the nanaknight one was like 10% def increase

[meager iris]

not if it was on glory?

[wispy robin]

wz literally 0 choice

[meager iris]

another question, who will need harmo more, lee or ayla?

[dapper skiff]

"replace with Shamanta" is a massive understatement

[meager iris]

get an overshield on qte

nice one

[dapper skiff]

Neither?

Their harmo are whatever

[still moat]

ss3 lee

[dapper skiff]

Kale harmoniswhateveruntikwanshiluciddreamerthatis

[meager iris]

who else then?

[still moat]

so he can be shakes holder

[meager iris]

Idontknowhowtopressspace

[dapper skiff]

Imeanwhoelseyougottheirsiginyouraccountthathasntbeemharmonizedyet

[meager iris]

I have him sss

[still moat]

k whel

[meager iris]

like every gen2 dps and amp

daren next week

[dapper skiff]

You have harmo on all 5 amp?

Okay so

[still moat]

shouldnt lee be part of that gen2 dps

[meager iris]

not ayla tho

[sturdy vault]

New player here, should I level up resonance before leveling up memories?

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

I asked about lee and ayla of course that doesn't include them

[still moat]

i cant read cuz no spaces

[wispy robin]

what do you even mean by resonance

[sturdy vault]

Memory resonance

Idk how that works since I haven't even done that mechanic yet

[wispy robin]

you feed the same memo to existing memo and get random stat

it's not related to lvling

[dapper skiff]

Harmo prio

High
Alisa, Wata, lamia, qu, cw, balter

Medium
Daren, Empy, Capri, Feral, Garnet, Kale

Low
Hyper

Bottom
Glory, Rosetta

_ _
Something like that

[wispy robin]

3s hyper pretty high tho 🐳

[dapper skiff]

Luna void would be top on debut ofc

[still moat]

cant have wata hold shakes as a main dps

[sturdy vault]

Does that stat get leveled as well as the memory I don't want to get a below average stat on a leveled memory. Or is that not how it works

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

so should I go with garnet? since Ayla is meh till wanshi and lee is low?

[dapper skiff]

Garnet harmo on mem rework is Good

[meager iris]

ok so garnet it's

[dapper skiff]

Light team is only gonna perform worse past this point and the more you get the best from it, the better

[shadow holly]

i would put hyper in medium in terms of WZ impact too
assuming ss3+

and move cow down

[wispy robin]

no it's stat like +1 lvl to ult or orb ect or +15 atk doesn't correlate with lvling
usually you check the build which stats you need and if you need +15 atk you try to roll it with rng, and if you need smth like ult lvl you use memo usb selector for it becuase it's harder to get
ofc focus on reso main dpses first

[shadow holly]

but depends ig

[dapper skiff]

Considering it's only wz, that's why I don't put it to medium at least

Cow can go low yeh

Other like Daren Empy Capri feral garn and kale actually does something for ppc too

[shadow holly]

doesn't have great harmo impact until triple harmo and ur prob not harmoing ice tank until wanshi

unless running the 4cjy 4guin PPC set then yeah that works exclusively with harmo

[meager iris]

[sturdy vault]

Is this team good? Empyria is temporary until I get epitaph so just imagine that as eclipse

[still moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8V2BQNAWFI&t=41s

leader though

[wispy robin]

don't mix elements
and it's not worth investing on a rank dps they are worthless

[still moat]

im already running out of orbs 40 seconds in

[sturdy vault]

I don't have any other DPS 😕 also aren't they all physical? Empyria has a second element as fire but does that really matter

[wispy robin]

attacker != dps
who does more dmg is dps, empy going to do more dmg than any a rank attackers you have
s rank wata going to do x100 of it tho

[still moat]

90% fire 10% physical means physical is the second element, and even that does not mean it boost physical units, it just means some of her kit does physical damage

which probably is the 1-2 ping = physical damage while 3 ping = fire damage

red flashbang

[vale raft]

Liv: Empyrea

Skill - Red Orb (Lv. 18)

Zodiacal Grace
Trigger: Ping Red Orb

Liv: Empyrea unleashes an energy beam, pulling enemies in a large area and dealing Physical DMG (Fire DMG instead on a 3-Ping) to them.

• Deals 220.0% / 440.0% / 660.0% Physical DMG based on the number of orbs pinged.

1/1

[still moat]

checks out

[meager iris]

from best girl to flashbang is crazy

[wispy robin]

you should focus on using a tank of the same element as your dps and lvl his class skill for the elemental shreed (and use einstein memo on him too)

[sturdy vault]

Only S ranks I have. Should I switch back to eclipse then

[wispy robin]

if you are doing missions ect it doesn't really matter, but if you doing ppc you should focus on having 1 dps and 2 supports with support memo for it

[charred patio]

That one has DLT right? How important is hers compared to other gen 3? Like Luna, Hanying etc

[rocky wedge]

this is very incorrect

[still moat]

very important

[wispy robin]

no dlt = brick

[still moat]

they all are equally important

[still moat]

make a solo qu guide please

[charred patio]

Peak P2W game The poor has no rights

[rocky wedge]

u can just weave single BA's, dont need to do a bunch like he does there its a bit slow

just basic atk between each action

and keep moving around so u dont get hit by lightning or an enemy

[still moat]

there is some breath of air here and there

wanshi doesnt need dlt, hyperdawn can work without dlt and so does nanami

[charred patio]

Weapon is alr a pain tho

Imagine pulling for reso

[wispy robin]

do you still hold dodge on the later waves to conserve orbs or you go yolo hold bas? i feel like dodge one do nothing near the end

[still moat]

u just use the off rate weapon as resos

weapon banner has a very high drop rate

chances are u are more likely to get it early than not

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-huh-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-twitch-7tv-gif-18228911432715801849

[charred patio]

O, rly? Never had the chance to pull for weapon in my old glb acc

[carmine reef]

i've gone full 30/30 on all except 1 which was 25/30

[wispy robin]

i got all my sigs <10 pulls, always try to gamble to test ur luck

[carmine reef]

must be nice

[still moat]

i got kaleido's, capibara's and feral's in 30 pull

[wispy robin]

and jp sig rate is 0.8% less than the rest

[charred patio]

Wait what? Is that true?

[wispy robin]

3.2% jp vs 4% the rest of the servers
same with cubs 5% vs 8%

jp is literally scam server

[thorn creek]

Damn i like those chances

Game was getting too easy

[still moat]

fate banner exist

go do that

[thorn creek]

Still too ez

It's just a few bucks more

Gambling doesn't hit the same anymore

[still moat]

russian roulette

[thorn creek]

IRL GAMBLING

I'll let u guys know when I quit the game from losing too much

[modern crest]

lamia team

[shadow holly]

lamia team

[thorn creek]

lamia team = lamia solo

[modern crest]

lamia op

[shadow holly]

Lamia, scire, capriccio
if that was a question
but capri only works at good invest in a swap capable team
if ss3 r1 scire at least then sss capriccio with sig is the pick
if no ss3 scire or no sss capriccio just run vera rozen or a random r2 amp and go solo lamia

[modern crest]

i dont have them yett since i just started so i just run her with vera and just someone

[thorn creek]

Then i'd go vera rozen and 21 XXI for budget lamia team

[foggy ridge]

whats the swap rotation for lamia?

[thorn creek]

both of them are A rank and can just use blue tickets in standard banner to pull them

Only use black cards for new S rank characters

[foggy ridge]

if u give me solo rotation i will rotate u instead

[shadow holly]

ss0?

[foggy ridge]

ss0

ss3 soon hopefully

[shadow holly]

first swap in you do lvl2 tidal on both rots, starting from 2nd swap in you do 3x3 on first rot for quick ult2, and lvl2 tidal on 2nd rot

[thorn creek]

u whel?

[foggy ridge]

im like unashamed about my spending how u not know that

[foggy ridge]

so 2nd swap, 3 ping twice and ba the rest?

[shadow holly]

wdym ba
you'll have enrgy to ult

[foggy ridge]

o

well lemme try

and i just completely whiffed my scire hold atk

[thorn creek]

POV: someone else treats Lamia, your fav character, better than yourself

[shadow holly]

i have a pretty good run recorded but the a part of the recording at the start is corrupted for some reason
thankfully the actual run is only cut off by like 10s at the start so ill upload it and send if you want

[foggy ridge]

all good ill figure it out

u fukn serious

[woven haven]

lmao

[shadow holly]

sclirt my goat

[wispy robin]

ult animation is like the least of the concerns she has

[distant wren]

Sauce: i watched 1 qu vid and came to my own conclusions

[wispy robin]

ppl who complain about animation never played her because it doesn't even feel bad

i find hyper ult anim be way more annoying

[slender aurora]

wait till they find out abt 1 ping hell

[raw swift]

Is qu solo worse than cw solo

[slender aurora]

worst solo in the game from what i hear

best ask aether abt the specifics tho im just a globlul that parrots what cn says

@woven haven

[wispy robin]

nah even qu is still better than solo lucia

[lethal sun]

I’m gooning

[glad folio]

I am 4 pulls away from getting uncle, so let me ask...
I already have Plume but dont have nanami. Should i wait for uncle in the basic pull check (45/60) or just go for it now?

[gray cosmos]

I stand by it

[slender aurora]

get him now

[gray cosmos]

I've seen enough of her footage in wz runs

looks like an absolute snorefest

[slender aurora]

youre gonna want both him and qu either way

[gray cosmos]

Doesn't matter if she has some random tech or orb rng she's still just a cutscene bot

Boring=/=easy

[glad folio]

Alright then, cinematic chair can wait. Thanks guys

[stuck sphinx]

Hi

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

I can be the red tide to your siren

[shadow holly]

chat is this rizz

[slender aurora]

rizz bankruptcy, maybe

[wispy robin]

you won't have a single second to snore with her because you constantly have to keep attention to which orb you pick and which qte to use so that animation gives you a second of relief if anything

[shadow holly]

[wispy robin]

shes on the wata and luna lvl of input heavy

[gray cosmos]

I could have to play osu during it and a like 5-6 second ult animation is still going to suck

it's just bad design

[wispy robin]

what 5 second you talking about it's literally 1 sec where you don't click anything

[foggy ridge]

im still cooked

[wispy robin]

and even then you still click qtes in that time

[distant wren]

also saying her entire time is revolving around walking up the stairs, despite so many people actually playing her having problems OUTSIDE that animation is just straight up misinfo

[gray cosmos]

I'm not talking about time with 0 inputs, I'm talking about the time you spend in a cutscene

which is extremely high

[wispy robin]

it only feels like that on videos, in reality it's no different than any other cutscenes
hyper ult takes longer than that

[stuck sphinx]

Should be close enough to cw cutscenes

[wispy robin]

the main thing is that you can actually cancel the walking part and she instantly teleports on the throne

with hold dodge it's 1 ping + ult instantly which takes like 1.5sec together with anim

[stuck sphinx]

And what is a cutscene if not a time you don’t click anything

[foggy ridge]

2nd rot and did 2 3pings uh

[rocky wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565860804323311638/1302216585250865172/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/874023512392728616/1140121738416505013/DarenMald.gif

[shadow holly]

i mean yeah
you need 3x3 for ult2

[wispy robin]

in reality you are in 24/7 adrenaline rush when playing her to not accidentally missclick orb or qte because it instantly brick your whole run so you don't even have time to pal attention to any animations

[distant wren]

i mean if someone feels like her cutscenes is snorefest that's a fine thing since it's subjective
but saying she has full iframes like nothing outside ult exists, and making it seem like that's a universal complaint is just wrong lol

[steady otter]

MD next week right ?

[foggy ridge]

OH 3 3pings mb LOL

[shadow holly]

ye

[stuck sphinx]

[lethal sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/921027935379542016/1300626509383340043/image.png?ex=673006d4&is=672eb554&hm=2fe63c53c892bbc07e372bb04b8702f5f1fa7b28299632fb4c4da3e68a532a7e&

[steady otter]

+1 vid

[shadow holly]

maybe you swapped in inbetween waves and lost energy from swapin

[foggy ridge]

no i only did 2 3pings thats my stupid ass

[shadow holly]

ah xd np

[steady otter]

Wata fred goes brrrr

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[shadow holly]

tf you actually have an acc that has fred built

[steady otter]

Not mine

So its ok

[shadow holly]

yeah i mean you found some guy who has it

[lethal sun]

It’s 2024 and u guys struggle to make new sets?

[shadow holly]

still mad funny

[lethal sun]

[shadow holly]

especially for ss invest

[stuck sphinx]

No ht

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1263735698985586709.gif

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1185498808499572766.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

I wanna refund my uf

[steady otter]

from Alpha CA fred

[shadow holly]

wow k whel

[foggy ridge]

well this sucks

[steady otter]

No need to HT again

[autumn finch]

is it possible to get both watanabe and qu in a new account? (enough tix and bcs)

[wispy robin]

you actually have to pay attention to enenmy attacks and dodge while also trying to abuse blue orbs if possible to avoid that stagger restart

[shadow holly]

u got dlt on her?

[foggy ridge]

no X)

[shadow holly]

oh
you'll have to do tidals on both rots always then

[stuck sphinx]

🧱

[foggy ridge]

had a feeling

[shadow holly]

my bad i assumed dlt

[distant wren]

which is why saying she has full iframes is straight up misinfo lol

[foggy ridge]

all good i guess i was doing the right thing all along

tnx for the help still ill get dlt on lamia soon enuf anyway

[wispy robin]

she has probably least i frames from all new gen while also having no cottie

[shadow holly]

actually wait
t2 tidal and 3x3 consume same amount of orbs in the end
you do 2x3 for tidal then 2x3 + tidal for ult1 next rot

or 3x3 for ult2 then tidal + 3p + lvl1 tidal for ult1 next rot
its all 4 3pings
so uh

[normal sierra]

fudge this grandpa
one week with him in ppc and I already wanna delete him from existence

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

cant be more true

[normal sierra]

elite/knight was like 10 billion times more mald than chaos/hell

[hazy sandal]

Always

[lethal sun]

Having 6 ht set for cringe Balter is different

I rather delete her

[livid lark]

you have to farm quickly but yes

[hazy sandal]

[lethal sun]

SS Veritas

[stuck sphinx]

Doubleshit

[hazy sandal]

I was a wise customer b4

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

was

[shadow holly]

tbf i assume its just about wata

[median dune]

Bonjour, these 2 cannot go together right?

[stuck sphinx]

12s hell luna

[lethal sun]

BONJOUR

🇫🇷

[stuck sphinx]

Why not

[stuck sphinx]

Docteur

[river nymph]

[stuck sphinx]

This could be us
I’m the baguette

[river nymph]

[stuck sphinx]

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

Omg hi trs

[carmine reef]

Omg hi trs

[stuck sphinx]

[shadow holly]

[thorn creek]

omg bye trs

[floral plover]

omg bye trs

[wispy robin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1gmnx12/blancs_opinion_on_ishmael_is_misleading/ what a slander

[foggy ridge]

best i can do for dark wz for now

[thorn creek]

Hero?

[foggy ridge]

hero

bouta get demoted soon

[thorn creek]

Real

[zenith thorn]

LET'S GOOO

FROM 750K TO 1.14M

[foggy ridge]

oh this is dark wz not phys wz

[zenith thorn]

oh

[foggy ridge]

still sitting at 900k

[slender aurora]

omg ur saying i can finally get my get back on that stupid boss next week w wata?

[shadow holly]

8s or uninstall

hell

[slender aurora]

oh thats gonna feel so good

[shadow holly]

[slender aurora]

i freaking hate md

[dapper skiff]

580k MD?

Finally

My f2* acc is sufferings less

[pine slate]

a guy in general just direct convert without having bought any packs yet

Really~2

[slender aurora]

..did he at least buy mpa/bp beforehand

[pine slate]

idk, doubt

[whole spire]

what memory set for nanami startrail

[pine slate]

the dude has no clue what he's doing, already dropped a couple hundred bucks in the game

[dapper skiff]

build starrail

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959><:combustion:1288089747952107581>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Herschel
2x Heisen
2x Heisen (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[lethal sun]

New Whales in 2024

💀

No way

[dapper skiff]

He's got daddy's wallet and heritages

[pine slate]

can u be my daddy

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

Sure, hit dm real quick

[pine slate]

HUH~4

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

How did it even

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-rdr2-arthur-morgan-my-honest-reaction-meme-gif-27180770

[slender aurora]

the logical mind would assume pack = value, and go buy those before direct conversion

but ig bro had a blindfold over his eyes when clicking past the packs

[opaque ridge]

1 orange HT mat

[steady otter]

whel

[dapper skiff]

massive whel

[opaque ridge]

shouldn't of whaled on ishmael

[mighty tusk]

🐳

[opaque ridge]

shes pretty boring to play according to blanc, unlike cw

[mighty tusk]

boring to play for what content? celica's class?

[dapper skiff]

No

Story

[mighty tusk]

atleast hyperreal story in his chapter was good and hype

cw vs lilith is just

alisa boss fight when?

[dapper skiff]

I need more lore accurate hyper battle

Make him a sht playable, but they better make him op boss

[zenith thorn]

natural selection

the guy has no sense of financial management

a basic algebra should suffice

[opaque ridge]

i have no clue what im doing, can u drop a couple hundred bucks on me?

[raw swift]

hey so-

[pine slate]

[mighty tusk]

[opaque ridge]

[raw swift]

I just said what yall thought

Im always open

i mean what

[ripe stag]

Time to eggs

[glass bay]

Whel

[hazy sandal]

🥚

[thorn creek]

sure

600 rc just for u

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-box-boxing-angry-fast-cat-eating-a-box-gif-10756722895901289016

[zenith thorn]

is he stupid

[raw swift]

why not me :(

[serene blaze]

is primo sequence the onlyone available rn?

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-kitten-explosion-explode-gif-13413781400084246782

[hazy sandal]

Cat

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/wolfy-21-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-no-21-no-21-dancing-gif-13664327873649921906

[vestal harbor]

Yo, I need help

[ripe stag]

What help

[vestal harbor]

I have a bunch of basic af questions about this game before getting into it

[ripe stag]

Ask

I'll try my best to answer

[vestal harbor]

Basically, I played hoyo games for a long time. Didn't know PGR even existed until this past week when I got into Wuwa and a bunch of PGR vets there were praising this gacha. I looked into PGR and holy hell I am impressed

What is there to do when you are out of energy? I see that its not open world

[stiff burrow]

guys i have a question regarding wata's combat event thing (ie the challenges you do after completing his tutorial in the event)

[zealous mantle]

go ask

[zealous mantle]

touch grass tho you could spend hours malding PPC and WZ

[stiff burrow]

when i tried to select my SS wata for that challenge from the character selection screen, I couldn't, only trial wata was an option

Is that a bug? Because when I selected my fire team from the team preset page, it gave me my SS wata

[pliant wyvern]

I have tifa memories 2 and initially I used it for CW but I got connie so I wanted to change it. What char is good for tifa memories?

[glass bay]

[stiff burrow]

[dapper skiff]

Scroll down

Lol

[dapper skiff]

No one besides garnet

If you don't have garnet, useless then

[stiff burrow]

i dont think i can scroll down any further

[dapper skiff]

Idk, go outside ig

[pliant wyvern]

so i have to gacha again and again until i get garnet

[zealous mantle]

another victim of in-game reco ?

[dapper skiff]

Why

[ripe stag]

PGR is generally all about it's skill based gameplay with a big touch of meta relevant units.
When you are out of serum (we only use serum for so little of things anyways)

• Warzone - Gamemode where you compete with 15 players per bracket, get the high score and promote yourself to the higher rank. Resets 2 times per week.
• Phantom Paincage - "How fast can you kill the boss?" Turning into a gamemode.
• Norman Revival Plan - A gamemode which resets every 2 weeks. basically boss rush but with a different gameplay.
• Clash Reflection - Stage Rush where you need to clear the stage in the given time to advance and get rewards. Resets every 2 weeks

[pliant wyvern]

I don't have garnet

[mighty tusk]

as usual

[dapper skiff]

You don't even have black cards to pull on anything don't you

[dapper skiff]

Then you just don't use tifa?

[zealous mantle]

just take the loss. you can also scrap memos into shards if you cant stand looking at unused memories

[zealous mantle]

dont forget malding in Guild Battles/siege

https://tenor.com/view/get-back-to-work-gif-1126008344771276194

[vestal harbor]

So similar to other games I've played, where progression is locked by energy but endgame content is infinitely replayable?

[mighty tusk]

stronghold

[zealous mantle]

oh right, havent checked if there's a new one

[pliant wyvern]

I also want to gacha garnet for my lighting team so I don't think I'll scrap it

[dapper skiff]

Are you f2p?

[stiff burrow]

you can do some special challenges like FOS training
also go to challenge -> special challenge
and challenge -> Alternative interpretation, there's stuff to do there

[zealous mantle]

if you are F2P just save BC for upcoming limited S-ranks

dont try back-pulling on re-runs.. and dont touch Fate banners

[mighty tusk]

honestly investing in lightning too much rn is just.....

[dapper skiff]

^

[pliant wyvern]

is there a garnet banner?

[dapper skiff]

You are talking about arrival?

[pliant wyvern]

okay

[mighty tusk]

rerun banners are 70% and the units that appear are random

[dapper skiff]

The worst possible banner to pull in the game?

Not joking

[zealous mantle]

her debut is long past.
as F2P, dont pull on anything except DEBUT S-rank banners

[mighty tusk]

also lightning is gonna be 🧱 3 patches later

[dapper skiff]

Light is already brick

Only fire, dark and phys in ppc rn beside light bosses

Get reck

[mighty tusk]

cough dark cough
cough fire cough

[dapper skiff]

Next patch it's gonna be ice

[zealous mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-pgr-nanami-punishing-gray-raven-gif-11269232440809061481

[dapper skiff]

You have everything else to use than lightning for ppc

[mighty tusk]

omg actual main dps

[mighty tusk]

wz bot then got it

[vestal harbor]

So I did some looking @ PGR and see that even tho the gacha system is the most generous and forgiving of any gacha I've seen or played in years.... it also requires that you build a variety of teams to tackle endgame content.

1. How relevant/viable are older chars going forward? Are they severely outclassed even with mechanics like the "leap" one I heard about? Or is there a wide variety of strong team comps you can put together for each typing? (Dark, ice, fire, etc...)

2. How long does it take to build a roster/have a team of each type?

[dapper skiff]

Just solo cw for wz smh

Not like it'll make a diff

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

ok im not smart

[hidden forum]

[stiff burrow]

[dapper skiff]

Older Chara barely relevant, get news ones and you're gucchi, leap is just fancy upgrade it won't outclass future units

How long?
3 weeks at best Ig?

[mighty tusk]

how bout meta teams? how long?

[shadow holly]

neva neva

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-puth-how-long-gif-18698666

[vestal harbor]

How long does it generally take a character become outdated?

[zealous mantle]

1. cant generalize too much since there are super old units (e.g. Rosetta) that took a couple of years to get replaced
   But yeah, there is powercreep.. so in general, gen 3>2>1 (Wata is "gen 3")

2. roughly 2 weeks for 1 max unit if starting from 0 materials

[dapper skiff]

2 years average

[vestal harbor]

Oh wow

[shadow holly]

usually a couple years at least? some were in meta for like 3 or more lmao

[dapper skiff]

Some of meta team rn still consist of unit that are 2 or even 3 years old

[mighty tusk]

and that was at launch?

[dapper skiff]

Rosetta, Garn, kekry

[zealous mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/outro-reverse-rosetta-pgr-gif-24346287

[vestal harbor]

My god, I literally just came from a game where chars got powercrept significantly in a patch or 2

[mighty tusk]

because this game has 5-6 elements with 3 class to fill in

[zealous mantle]

also note that you want a full meta team PER element at end-game

and moving forward, expect powercreep to be +/- 1 year from a unit's debut

[mighty tusk]

each unit has 1 element and 1 class

1 unit per patch

[shadow holly]

well
they do get powercrept very significantly
but within their role
pretty much any single new unit in a specific role (element/class) will outclass their predecessor by a metric ton
but there are quite a lot of positions to replace with different elements

[vague nebula]

honkshit starbucks?

[mighty tusk]

nah most likely hi3

[zealous mantle]

or TOF

[vague nebula]

[zealous mantle]

[vague nebula]

oh yeah

[mighty tusk]

he did say he came from hoyo games

hi3 is the only game that I know that has meta that is short

[zealous mantle]

it was fun while it lasted but the 2 month powercreep was just insane 💀

[dapper skiff]

We have 5 and about to 6 different dmg types in the team with each element consist of 3 important units that's can't be missed and each element has their own respective content that won't work without the correct element

How are they supposed to replace them within period of 3 months

[zealous mantle]

TOF: hold my beer

double debut banners within 20 days

💀

[vague nebula]

I'd still bet on honkshit starbucks. its more mainstream than hi3. and biggest powercreep was a dude and a gurl of same archetype released in 3 weeks difference

[vestal harbor]

I pulled Blade in 1.x

I don't need to say more

[vague nebula]

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

That sounds like releasing units based on what players wants

Not what the game needs

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

Not like hoyo game is competitive at all tbh

Kuro is such a based releasing Chara no one expected and powercreep their beloved waifus

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

Fck dem players

No rights

[vague nebula]

f dem f2ps

[dapper skiff]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

It's f2*

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

selena powercreep when?

not before her copium leap

[vestal harbor]

Hmm, so 2 questions then.

1. When starting out I imagine you focus on developing 1 team before moving on to others.

How much endgame content can you do when you're like a couple months into the game and have a limited roster?

2. How much variety is there within the teams endgame? Or is it strictly meta and you're hurting pretty bad if not using meta units

[dapper skiff]

never

[dapper skiff]

You can do end game content pretty well with new account within the first few months as long as you don't go for oldest Chara available to Invest, get new gens unit and 2 of them gonna makes you better than half of newbies in the game already

Varieties?

As much as dmg types in the game

Can be more if you're into some specific event

[vestal harbor]

Basically concerned about running out of stuff to do and/or being punished for not running the current meta dps

[dapper skiff]

As long as you keep up with the latest debut

And obviously not skipping them for 1 or 2 stupid reason

[shadow holly]

its a gacha, you are bound to run out of stuff to do

[nimble plinth]

me who wanted to skip wata because male char

[vestal harbor]

Well, it sounds like the "stuff to do" thing is less of an issue here than other games I've played

[dapper skiff]

That's 1 reason

[vestal harbor]

But I'm concerned about the team comps

[dapper skiff]

Just get the new units

Build a budget team around it and you're gucchi

[nimble plinth]

I'm working on it 😔

[dapper skiff]

You're better than all of the people who "skips" in the game for 1 or 2 stupid reason

[vestal harbor]

You say new units... I assume now PGR is in gen 3 right?

[mighty tusk]

about to enter 3 patches later

[dapper skiff]

Skipping in pgr is stupidly dumb move when your income between S rank debuts is always enough to pity a S rank character in their debut

[shadow holly]

dont bother with the gen classifications
theyre a weird community term that doesnt really mean much

[nimble plinth]

I usually just want pretty ladies but that's not how PGR works and I don't mind, wata is fun to play

[vague nebula]

theres no variety. u use the newest unit otherwise u rank way lower in pain cage and war zone

[mighty tusk]

but as long as you do weeklies in pgr + events, and only pull on s-ranks (no weapons nor pets nor backpulling), you can easily get them

[vestal harbor]

Thats the answer I was looking for

[dapper skiff]

It's just

New units = strong = can carry you until end game

Since we have like 5 teams variety from all different elements, new units is always tends to be stronger than whatever tf we had before for that said role

No exceptions

[vestal harbor]

Damn. So just always rock the newest stuff

[dapper skiff]

Always

Again
Don't skip debut unit for 1 or 2 stupid reason, and you're gucchi

It's really that

No joke

[mighty tusk]

and the only way to safely get past units without backpulling is through s-rank selectors

[nimble plinth]

I wanna get empyrea from the next selector

[vestal harbor]

Thats why the game is as generous as it is with its gacha. It has to be, or so it seems

[dapper skiff]

Surely

clueless

I hope you don't get scared of number 59 after playing the game for a bit

[shadow holly]

why be scared of number 59 if you can be scared of 99

[dapper skiff]

Oh btw, newbies guide and FAQs in pin for early game recommendations and early level resources management

[stiff elm]

💀

my first hero defending

[mighty tusk]

surely

[shadow holly]

dw u getting sniped bozo

[stiff elm]

surely.

[stiff elm]

😭 I just got here

[mighty tusk]

also fluc there is higher than sea

[nimble plinth]

HSR trained me to endure the disappointment, I cannot win 50/50s or early pulls, atleast theres no 50/50 on here

[dapper skiff]

Try again next week

No chance of promotion

4th dude has s+ balt

[stiff elm]

what does fluctuation level mean

[mighty tusk]

I should've been in your bracket during dark week

[mighty tusk]

higher number = tankier

[dapper skiff]

That's why you just wait till Saturday smh

Monday is fire

Hmmm

Let's try my luck again

[mighty tusk]

btw, when was the last time we've had high fluctuation with lightning?

iirc, it's always at low

[stiff elm]

how the f, if I defend 6'th place with my bricked team then im gonna actually laugh my sht off

[dapper skiff]

And def not leaking my join bracket before y'all mfs hopping in

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[dapper skiff]

Gotta play smart as F2*

[mighty tusk]

I need to promote to legend so I can slack next week

[dapper skiff]

Cause whels in this game aren't that smart to compete since the first place

[stiff elm]

real

[dapper skiff]

[fiery sun]

Yo guys, I'm a new player here, so, what S rank member should I pull in the base gacha??

[dapper skiff]

Check pin for Checked research recommendations

Most of newbies guide is also put in guides and FAQs section

[shadow holly]

are the ones in faq even updated tho

[dapper skiff]

Well the only FAQs ik are the ones in pin

livWhat

Idk any other FAQs bro

[mighty tusk]

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1220163911723253760
this thing exists btw

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1272196375534239834.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

What's dat

Never heard that channel

[mighty tusk]

prob a channel that might recommend cw over lamia

[vague nebula]

gonna snipe u tonight

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

[dapper skiff]

Do they even have standard selector guide?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1263735698985586709.gif

[vague nebula]

[nimble plinth]

I think I remember looking at the tier list from that channel earlier and Lamia wasn't even in it

[clever schooner]

They only have cw selector guide

[mighty tusk]

omg @dapper skiff

[dapper skiff]

I am indeed

Have access to demonlao sheet in faq channel

But wtf can I do with sheet using phone only

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1263735698985586709.gif

Making sheet with phone is awful asf

[mighty tusk]

wait....this doc is already outdated
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nCmBq7NstZovPWs9cymAXNyakVXJ4lKvNGbVmtPbcUc/edit?gid=584610115#gid=584610115

[hazy sandal]

Tier list easily gets outdated

[mighty tusk]

wasn't this a doc that jeremey used back then?

[hazy sandal]

Always

[clever schooner]

Seems like this tier list is more powecreep resistance

[dapper skiff]

Feral doko

[mighty tusk]

promote selena to c-tier

[hazy sandal]

I would list camu at Btier

[dapper skiff]

Also rexlent mentioned

Misinfo sensed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

How many people even have access to #1220163911723253760 tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/915894882340601866.gif

[mighty tusk]

links

[vale raft]

Useful Links

<:kuro:1290659729600937984> Officials

Website
Youtube
BiliBili

<:info:1290659678346285248> Wikis

Gray Ravens
Bili Wiki

:book: Lore

Huaxu Stories

:link: Community Links

Huaxu
Zexous' Meta Spreadsheet
Rexlent Beginner YT Playlist
Setsu's Harmo Spreadsheet v2

:calendar_spiral: Planning

BC Planner
PGR Packs

<:exppc:1290659786500739192> Phantom Pain Cage

SS Ultimate
SSS Ultimate
S+ Ultimate
Advanced PPC Spreadsheet
PPC Boss Rotations

<:hero_wz:1290664158240440331> Warzone

Advanced Warzone Tips

:file_cabinet: Outdated Resources

Character 'Tier List by Doomy'
Comprehensive Character Builds
Resource Calculator
Coatings Acquisition

[dapper skiff]

Did she got buffed that big?

livWhat

[shadow holly]

wdym
everyone?

[dapper skiff]

Editing

The channel

Make changes and update guides

[zenith thorn]

[dapper skiff]

[shadow holly]

that idk

[nova forum]

Is it possible to get 15s hell Luna with empy-alisa-watank?

[dapper skiff]

Yes

Unless your wata is 5*

Bricked

[zenith thorn]

ye

[dapper skiff]

Bye

[dapper skiff]

Deadge

[zenith thorn]

probably idk i wantap my run

[dapper skiff]

Decorations channel ig

[zenith thorn]

18s

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

18 sec hell luna?

[nova forum]

Max I got was 16s

[zenith thorn]

ye

[mighty tusk]

I got 17

[zenith thorn]

actually iirc wb said without r1 mech/r0 pulse, expect +1

[nova forum]

Bruh do I need to build 4 Fred watank

[zenith thorn]

so 16s is already good enuf

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

yes

Dew it

[shadow holly]

dont bother its 1 patch build

[dapper skiff]

[zenith thorn]

mem fred

[dapper skiff]

Join the zazacult

[vale raft]

Frederick ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Each dodge increases Movement Speed by 15% and Extra DMG Bonus by 5% for 5s. Can be stacked up to 3 times. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4pc Set Bonus

When the character triggers Matrix, all enemies' speed decreases by 20% and their Extra DMG Reduction decreases by 15% for 4s. 8s cooldown.

ATK

136

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1446

[mighty tusk]

wait why?

[hoary dagger]

https://youtu.be/SuOI9U0-Pdo
even 14 is doable

[dapper skiff]

Shake better than 4 Fred post rework

[shadow holly]

cuz from next patch youll use shakes

[zenith thorn]

wtf what memory

[nova forum]

Keyboard gameplay hell no

[mighty tusk]

wait, that means I need to build shakespeare memo set

[dapper skiff]

4 Fred red and ult reso

[vast crystal]

Memo rework next patch? Finally

[dapper skiff]

[zenith thorn]

223 222 111

[nimble plinth]

whats wrong with keyboard

[zenith thorn]

phat ass

[dapper skiff]

Yeah duh

How's no one told u yet

Shake is wata ppc set too

[mighty tusk]

I thought I can give it to harmo empy while retaining 4 cottie on wata

[dapper skiff]

Now get back to farming and reroll 3 red with 41 Alphons pieces

[zenith thorn]

im just going to reuse palefire 4shake set

[dapper skiff]

🔫

[zenith thorn]

harmo alphon

[shadow holly]

only 41
wow so lucky

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

I think safe to say

Once Luna debut, onslaught will be introduced as well

At that point I don't think wata would often use shake with red and ult set anymore

[nova forum]

Oh w8 that's 17s without bug

[dapper skiff]

Seems like a green light to make wata shake to class resos

[zenith thorn]

wats wata bottom reso after lucia

[mighty tusk]

tank

[zenith thorn]

class?

make sense

[mighty tusk]

only ult if he's main dps

but he's subdps in void and lucia

[livid lark]

anyone have a madorea time for sssr1 cow and r0 glory?

[nova forum]

Uhhh 21s

[livid lark]

i dunno if it's possible to get under 30s

r0 glory

[nova forum]

Yes

[livid lark]

you sure?

[dapper skiff]

Paint dupe

[livid lark]

do you have a vid

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

paint dupe on cottie

[livid lark]

also with darwin or cottie

[dapper skiff]

Just paint dupe 4head bro

[nova forum]

Darwin

Maybe I'll try recording

[livid lark]

i dunno how you can do hell without needing to basic

[nova forum]

try with a ton of quotation marks

Basic wot

[mighty tusk]

paintdupe ftw

[dapper skiff]

Paint dupe

[nova forum]

I actually do basic, cuz I was waiting for qte