#📨・meta-help
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qte is phys
it doesn't activate because lee deals physical DMG on qte
Oh ok thanks
eins only shreds the element of the QTE dmg
qte firegod
360° Shooting - Rapid Fire
Lee: Palefire enters the battlefield and shoots the target with his Dual Guns, dealing Physical DMG and inflicting the target with Electrocute, causing the target to take Extra Physical DMG when being attacked.
- The shots deal 330.0% Physical DMG.
- Electrocuted targets take 20.0% Extra Physical DMG when being attacked over the next 5s. This effect can be triggered up to 15 times while it lasts.

same thing preventing ishmael from being good at her role of substitute amp/tank
Let me get this straight, if blue orbs aren’t used they transform to White Orbs?
(Solacetune)
I have the shiny one 
there is no saving in this game, you are supposed to pull every new char and you get enough currency to do it as f2p

Oh nah im good with my hyperreal
Grayravens please add a SUMMARY button
Global no read
Where the chibi one ?


oily
just use the bot
Read it then https://grayravens.com/wiki/Hanying:_Solacetune
Doesn’t the bot show builds only?
I avoid GR cuz not reliable
By choosing hypereal he became hyperwrong

people who read in glb even just end up reading sh*t wrong
skill solacetune
Splendorous Tone - Rippling Reflection
Trigger: Way of the Strings + Hold Basic Attack
Rapidly plays consecutive notes with the Pipa to attack the target, continuously dealing Physical DMG and gaining Complex Time. While performing this skill, Hanying can move and recover Signal Orbs at an increased rate. Upon releasing Basic Attack, Hanying rushes toward the target, dealing Physical DMG. Hanying can evade incoming attacks during the rush.
- Deals 60.0% Physical DMG and gains 6 points of Complex Time every second.
- The rush deals 40.0% Physical DMG.
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and they just never understand anything
(first rot) need to do red red red > yellow > green > ult 1 > 3p Blue > tap ultx2 > 3rd ult should press and hold. (second rot) ping red x6 > green > ult 1 > tap ult x3 > 4th ult tap+hold
Feet. The DNA of soul
yellow?
from snazz

no human right invest hanying
SS? 
true
what's ss3 wata's WZ rotation (with dlt/cott)
SS Hanying is such copium lmao
same as ss0
Dlt unnecessary
no need DLT either
He want to save
How long did it take them to roll Nier Automata and BRS collabs on the global version?
Damn
yes
Yes

if i have r2 should i swap dlt for incan or smth then
okay
yes
imma r3 hanying 
it took about 1.5 year since brs colla announcement to roll on cn, and additional year to get on global
another dlt
just like rosetta 
Most new chars need dlt
Wata more of an exception rather than the norm
wonder if her trueslash rot works without dlt
everyone except non shakes wata,
wanshi and nanami
no it does not
so without dlt it is just one rot?
yea
but with dlt two rot?
true
interesting
well
So I won't be seeing Dante on PGR even in 2025, then. Guess I can feel free to pull other chars for now.
p2w game
someone also need to hold lingya
her kit is so much easier now
so dlt + lingya holder before hanying
also is there a written version of rot somewhere along with the cancels and stuff to try and fit double rot in 10s
videos kinda hard to parse all the steps being done
otherwise she have to spend some time doing BA to generate 1 orbs
Aethers copy pasted the same msg like 5 times lol
just expect it around august ~ october 2025
wanshi is another complicated character
well it all depends if they announced it after planning everything ahead or not, capcom is way stricker with their collabs so may take even longer
Just discord search aether messages with ult2 keyword or smth
wanshi complicated?
so, in conclusion. who is the hardest pgr character to master?
wanshi looks complicated but pretty easy once u learn him
uh yes
wanshi is just spam red orb if the v gauge is full then ult 

I see.
i think wata have the highest skill ceiling
this one i guess?#📨・meta-help message
especially 4 shakes wata
if the rng is perfect yea

and then u remember orbs
qu ez but copium 
qu without dlt must be hell…
Close enough altho that one is kinda off lol
wanshi my savior 
:clueless:
er what's a proper one then
im waiting for a brave warrior going s0 5* qu solo
i played qu at s5 without dlt for like a few months
was it good?
how do I regress to SS 
it was okay after wanshi
qu is easy on paper, wanshi looks hard
cause u are swapping anyway
we all have to agree that nanami startrail is the best and easiest character ever
wata should've been ice
whoever finds nanami startrails gameplay hard
I need more overpowered husbando like uncle
yea nanami no brainer rot
so crimson weave?
ishmael might have a hard rotation though, would she?
just spam dodge 
too many things in her kit
i don't even play her yet and i know she's easy lol
no walls of texts at all
and when the dodge gauge runs out?
ur fault for not knowing wata rot immediately 
or does it not?
u hold dodge then ult2 
ishmael easy to 1 rot, hard to double rot and match swap time with luna
lmao
I don't know how good is wanshi ice tank next year will be
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

isn’t wanshi sick for ice?
yeah ishmael is pretty intensive rotation wise
bro is everything
6 ults in 12s
I know it but why spend all that effort typing it when you already did it for me
He's free from dorm stuff, didn't know his performance at ss0 must be at best on par as cowla
anyways, who are we thinking needs to be replaced immediately other than selena cappricio?

i just copied it
we dont know if shes gonna be cottie though
cutscene simulator 
they might twerk her energy gain
we'll see in the end
And I'm linking it
also… has anyone tried wanshi with plume and see what happened?
tweek*
We all win in the end
husbando get shafted always,even uncle being op is accidental happening
unlike WW
kuro actually posts the energy gen in the text
and… why do people not play luna on her hold signature just curious?
ishmael...twerk ?
someone
eats all her orbs, and dmg is slow
because when u hold sig on luna, she has 0 orbs
Wait wuwa does show energy gen tho
i see
because hes not husbando hes uncle
wanshi wanshi and chromium best rot 
i don’t know why they added a hold version even if it is useless
do luna hold ult rot once and u left with no orbs to do anything
its not useless though
they benefit strike hawk buff 
she can 0:01 kill ppc early stages
not ult energy gen
just concerto

No it shows ult energy as well
Just inconsistently
Lots of skills have liberation energy gain listed
We need overpowered chrome frame next year ,please make it happen kurochad

whats the difference between the two does the hold ult one do more dmg than the tap?
But concerto gain is also listed inconsistently
currently 50/50

assuming both on 4pc cottie
no vera ? :livwhat:
but if one of them holds shred mem it will be different
it converts all your normal orbs to enhance it i believe, and that conversion gets stronger at sss
i see
is ish kit final already or they still gonna change it on release
so yea it's stronger but still not worth it in wz
they need to give luna more orbs
i see
we're just waiting release
and what about wanshis two signatures?
What day is live
would be nice if ishmael could transfer some of her orbs to luna after she swaps out
7th
7 nov
Okay
everyone uses the cube one
Week till i update my sheet then
Chrome new fire tank

they're still updating stuffs
skill lucid
Forlorn Rime - Hyperlinked Flight
Trigger: Consume 160 Energy + Not during Bullet Hail/Frosty Ascent + Tap Signature Move
Summons a lightweight drone to generate a forcefield, pulling in enemies and firing a strengthened Condensation Round. Deals Ice or Hiemal DMG depending on the current Calibration Mode. Upon performing this skill, immediately gains 1 Signal Orb and rearranges Signal Orbs into 3-Pings. Time Lag Calculation is activated while performing this skill. If Wanshi has the Domain Overlimit effect when performing this skill, its duration is refreshed.
- When Wanshi is in Calibration Mode: Quiescence or has not entered Calibration Mode, deals 2400.0% Ice DMG. If Wanshi is in Calibration Mode: Quiescence when performing this skill, resets the Calibration Meter upon performing this skill and exits Calibration Mode: Quiescence.
- When Wanshi is in Calibration Mode: Desolation, deals 1400.0% Hiemal DMG instead; resets the Calibration Meter upon performing this skill and exits Calibration Mode: Desolation.
- Performing Hyperlinked Flight while in Burst Mode can grant the Wounding buff.
- Generates an Ice Spike upon performing this skill based on the number of Diamond Dust Stacks.
time to build 4p fred on ishmael
Lingya 
this is so long wtf
less than 5 days left and we still haven't had any coating pvs
is that 3 pages for one skil
globlul can't read is real

also bot got updated finally?!
hello?
Different bot
someone simplify this for me
While we can't read,we can always unga bunga 🔥
Ek wrote a new bot bc doomy abandoned cogs
press ult for big peepee damage
ngl i'd actually sit down and read this soon
We're learning while making mistake here and there
did the same for hanying kit
whats the difference between barrier gun and cube ?
ngl my rot are zaza so I can't misinfo you 
just tap faster 
cube makes u fly
gun makes u stand there
is that all?
glaciation and normal ice i actually dk
why read when you can figure out by playing 
there is a simplified version of his rank up effect 
nothing
u asked to simplify
they're both just dmg
u want a long version?
NO
wanshi ult1 stacks from red core
wanshi ult2 stacks from hold atk core
that's the only real difference
thats hold dodge and hold red orbs i think
that’s…
hold dodge is glaciation hold red is normal ice
oh and ult2 buffs his next qte's dmg

i see now
Wow nice summary
oh no even difference in total DMG or speed execution?
yeah, these gen3 kits are…
hold dodge then spam red is gla
hold red then spam red is ice
I can pull for one 6 weapon , should I do it?
why is global worrying about something thats so far away
yea smth like that
qu isnt even out yet
some of us play tw
I think you should save for shukra instead
that was he asked
ofc there's dmg difference
but they're just dmg functionally and the utility isn't noticeably different either
both will gen 1 ping and refresh domain overlimit + resort orbs
then u can learn from tutorial
We're on back to back hellish limited banner patch
tutorial teaches u his entire kit
Must pull back to back

tutorial?
0

i played them all
Celica's class 
how much bc can i get in this patch? f2p
u can replay it too
try watching snazz ice wz for no human rights invest wanshi rot
society if tutorial showed rotations: 😊😊
isn't that what they do 
no
Our community while gameplay helper try to teach them the easiest most effective way to digest.
???

I mean starting from affix characters
Yea it looks like a certain cc learnt from that ingame rot tutorial lmao
ty
yeah no optimized but to get a global idea since globlul can't read 
by rotation i mean for example: if wanshi it shows you a full rotation with wanshi and qu and others
similar to hi3 kind of
nah that's too much work for kuro 
might as well teach u how to use water breathing
about that
I can get shukra and a 6 weapon , should i pull for the weapon?
go to trial and DIY
Actually i feel like they did show a decent tutorial with some a ranks(?)
Just watch some big hearted dude who willing to share their good rotation bro. Ez learning via example
have you seen their recommended memo builds? do you really want to see their versions of rotations 
different investment = different rotation
yeah if u swipe
recitativoe di fantasia flashbacks
But yeah can't remember an actual meta unit being shown optimal rotation ingame
optimized rotation is something for u to hone
You meant only enough for shukra and her sig right? Ig so,if your uncle rn is sigless.... completely up to you
Iirc uncle without his sig isn't as bad as other gen 2 unit
(first swap) 3p > hold red > tap red until 12 bullets used > ult > swap out
(second swap and so on) 3p > hold red > hold BA, wait until he move to zone to reloads > ult1 > 2x 3p > hold red > tap red until 12 bullets used > ult2 > swap out
smth like that for no human rights invest wanshi
tutorial teaches u how to use core and finish with ult
6 weapon is better on shukra or epitaph?

both
wym ?
no human rights is a little w/e considering wanshi's only change on rotation is SS
wanshi is free 
both equaly strong but wata is playable at least at 5* while qu is pure suffering
what i would do is try 5-10 pulls on wata weap banner and see if lucky, if not can save for qu
that's how i got all my sigs anyway 
Both
still takes time to SSS
just buy BP 


Free indeed 
i'm very casual i don't want to spend
thanks
that zone pisses me off
ty im gonna try this
just play as u please then 
i know it is to grant more bullets but…
Should've read that b4
They exist? 

What's the point of 1st rot? To make qu not overkill early waves?
200 vouchers? 
set up shred field
Ig to also put Down ice const
no idea, a lot of ice wz rot i watch does it

that's why 1st rot on fire is empy start -> wata -> lucia -> empy
also i think its kinda normal for unit to do half rot on first swap nowadays
1st rot on void is kaleido -> wata/nanami -> luna
its just because tanks have shred field
yea that
wait empy still has field time in CN ? 
literally nothing else its just that
Makes sense I used to think it's because attacker so strong they overkill too hard
lingya holder
oh so only 1s 
I dont think she sees field time at high invest
Its all fake
should I get SS3 Hanying to make her usable?
or is she fine with SS?
8 pulls and i get weapon 😭 ty again
3s or bust
works every time 
sss mommy
Carved Darkness
Basic Attack - Sword Dance generates 7 extra Signature Energy and its Afterglow Shadow generates 2 extra Signature Energy. Immediately gains a random set of 3-Ping Orbs upon entering battle. Entering Sword Form grants 20 stacks of Stigmata Will instantly.
Signature - Bright Candle will record a 100% multiplier of the Signal Orbs pinged and Core Passive - Glowing Lanternlight cast in Luminous Realm. When Signature - Bright Candle is unleashed, an attack will deal the recorded multiplier of Physical DMG to all units within range. This will not deal CRIT DMG, and Bianca: Stigmata will gain 20 stacks of Stigmata Will instantly. When launching Basic Attack - Sword Dance, the first 2 hits of Basic Attack - Sword Dance can be performed additionally before landing.
- When dealing DMG to multiple targets at the same time by pinging Signal Orbs or Core Passive - Glowing Lanternlight in Luminous Realm, only the highest DMG dealt to a single target will be recorded. No record will be made if no DMG is dealt.
wtf
Omg it's literally next rot YES
if you can afford it she has probably the most impactful SS3 of the year
liars
different mommy
sss daddy
lucia and ishmael currently fighting for 2nd place

Aight
Luccsacc stat issue ig
dayum

ss0 would be fine for phys right? ss3 for trueslash can wait till lucia patch
wait it affects phys as well?
15% EDB, 5% res shred, 3 extra orbs
Ofc
I'm thinking if I should get hanying ss3 from gacha or wait till Ishmael
you know she has no EDB in kit without ss3 right
I could get pyroath ss3 from Ishmael
ss3 hanying is subhuman rights invest
the shred i know but the other parts...
Try ss3 and enjoy trueslash wz
SSS is human rights invest?
well it's just 2 patches, i can cope
correct
Its really fun
S+
Ss0
?
I sense a hint of sarcasm
u will appreciate the extra orbs a lot

no human rights 

ss3 nana not too importnat?
what's ss3 ishmael again?
sss hanying:
Core ramp up dmg is doubled
Trueslash dmg is doubled
Trueslash rotation debuff application is doubled (more orbs, more trueslash)
+10% phys res shred
-3s Swap CD
who gonna win it though
ss3 Ishmael
This character does not exist. Please try again.
Ferb, I know what we are going to be doing today 
beta 
forgor she in beta
bot for beta unit 
Vonnedum 

Reverse engineer from beta frfr
Make sure you take a break from this chat every now and then 😭 sit in this channel for long enough and youll start thinking you need everyone SSS R3 💀
aight time to get triple S Hanying
What Ishmael ss3 do

For herself
Dw my fren he's just doing some jokes , hopefully
ok i mean they almost got me considering going for sss uncle so...
Am I? 
+10% fire/lightning res shred
base dmg of lightning axe slam +100% (her core already gives that like +120% so dilution exists)
base dmg of Burn Core part 2 +60%
Burn core only needs to charge half the time required to stack 20 flammable on enemies (i.e. feral ss3ish speed increase)
🤓

for the moment ss3 nanami is not too important because the only qol is for burn
ss0 wata makes me want to jump off everytime I see him ungrouping my mobs
it does have some dmg and shred
Wata sss have gather?
In alisa echo, do i switch to binca when in the dark world? Where chains appear on screen, or do i do the rest of the combo?
should I use it or use it for resonance? i'm using xxi on dark team
Mob wz itself is a mistake
No his grouping isn't paywalles like that
don't think so, i don't remember that in his kit
yes it is
cub is paywalled 
Reso fodder imo
His reds and ult have insane grouping within certain range
Okay you got me there 
that's why its removed for 99% of wzs post wanshi
save reso fodder for qu she really need orb reso
Sometimes i wish they put back some toxic early game wz
Thank god
Kurochad is going on their EA games arc
Ok, wanshi patch is the patch when I start malding wz
thank goodness
Luna patch is my ppc retirement
with wata rot do you just hit buttons asap without worrying about things animating/hitting first
who is this
like will ult2 cancel a blaze orb hit
vegeta lite
When you need it you cancel it
yes
When you don't you don't cancel
Help pls

+EDR buff/steel buff 
cancel all regular reds
you cancel riposte with a blaze orb so it triggers matrix instead of the basic attack
A Walmart version of Nanami Starrail 
Like the very last hit of 3rd blaze orb can be skipped
oki ty again!
They removed the skill of the musashi with the canon. When they jump at the other side of the map after shooting
Warcrime
U do Alisa full rot then swap to balter
When the world turns dark and shi
And no lizards anymore
so when doing 3blaze into ult2 spam, sometimes worth delaying and going over 10s in order to ensure blaze hits before ult2 for shred?
Dark world? 
Does she heal off field characters?
its the hold BA alisa thing
Exactly
The steel was uber cancer 
have u tried learning alisa on celica class ?
blaze orbs have 3 hits -> delay -> final x slash
cancel the x slash unless you are SSS Wata
Imagine nowadays. Stigmata 99 ult into 1 dmg
the moment the first 3 hits are over just ult UNLESS you killed a wave with blaze orb
Yes, but i didn’t get it, how do i trigger the heals
after hold BA and spam cecily orbs, she is supposed to do 3x 3 ping and then 1 ping and finish it with ult
sss in 2 patches, will ask again then
if you kill a wave right before you ult, then delay ult for a bit
let the blaze orb clip the enemy to shred them
Then I switch and get the heal buff?
since that's how wata shreds onfield
I switch to rigor or binca?
I miss old pgr
otherwise ult does no dmg
Why heal?
Bro just do her full rotation and swap to balter
Her memory buff and one of her passives trigger with heals
Ur gonna get 100% crit always
Oh my god bro
Don't need to fixate on that
Alr
EWWWW

-No Glory Sig
bianca
starts with alisa > bianca > rigor > alisa > bianca and repeat
alisa can heal from qte so u will get the buff if u press her qte
Ok thx.
I will go try it rn
Wait I can use the crapi weather now with lamia 
Go watch a wz vid or smth
What's the benchmark for chaos red Liv with 2.333 112 101 phys?
is wata's hold atk ever used or is just a bait part of his kit
@pine slate
Cool animation but its buns unfortunately
which is disappointing given how much they buff the skill
Best sss6 passive 
Is it 12s?
i guess using 3 shots and losing out on 3 blazes is just too much dmg loss? plus slow
I agree
Even Balter swordwaves dmg seems like godsent for sss6
blaze orbs are his most dmging skill


Ok
@shadow holly
Is it 12s?
11
I have exact same invest at 12s
Wot
12 i did with ss rosetta
But yeah dalaos could get less
Ye 12 on chaos should be like baseline with ss phys 
I save 13 or smth
before i got sss alisa, had to do 14

Fdodge is a must right?
well if you want to be fast ofc
If it's a must then im fine with my 12s 

i mean yeah if you kill with the same amount of stacks then its just +1 cuz of no fd
does wata's field shred apply tank passive as well as fire shred?
as opposed to scires?
scire field procs tank passive too
Need 4pc alphonse to apply fire shred i believe
i thought there was someone's that didn't. garnet?
Tank passive is from any kind of dmg
you probably misremembered and it wasnt about tank passive
but maybe einsteina or smth
cuz like yeah the shred field wont proc eins since it doesnt count as qte or 3ping
mm yea mabye ein
Yea tank passive should be from any dmg dealt from tanks
Wait I'm already #71 and it's still saturday 
i just didn't rmb if scire and garnet's fields do dmg
Did all malders do all 15 today or wtf
im already out of top 100
Hopefully I don't go down too much tmr
core garnet
qte garnet

it does count
oh wait you meant not garn
lmao
yeah since initially the question was ab scire

yeah eins is picky that way some dmg in PGR is just not any type of move dmg
Trash mem fr
lamia sss, ishmael sss, shred fields except nanami's cuz she's speshal
Eins doesn't have CD per enemy right?
I wonder why eins is prio over guin on empy then
it will on qu i think?
CD per mem
Gr8
Cuz 2p guin buff stays on the character even after current wave dies? While eins is done
Wdym
CD per mem set
O
if you have two eins they have separate cds

on each application
is that actually used anywhere

usually you just run shred mem which has CD per enemy
Gr8 now I forgot wat set I used for hell
oh wtf its different
So why eins over guin on empy no harmo 


hell should be 4fred for the double dv run
15% shred over 10% fire i guess?
its a mob vs elite/boss thing
if you can't hit everyone with eins then guin better
if you can hit most of the enemies with eins then eins better
is it not a problem that wata usually does a bunch of waves
I thought guin buff would be more reliable vs eins cuz guin buff stays on the character 
and so ein is kinda wasted
for mobs yes
for elites
do you really want to be caught against late wave bears and their res/hp counts

especially in void wz when they have shields
Welp ig time to retry wz with guin tmr since it's mob fire rn
ya time to change my mem back
actually i'm in leader so who cares i'm almost 2m over 2nd
void wz scares me
I'm just having fun on fire tbh
such a shame they removed shields on void wz after ishmael just so that nanami and wata are nerfed to the ground there
I'm also quite a lot above #2 in my bracket
yeah its fun building the muscle memory for wata's rot, i can get it under 10s maybe 30% of the time now

my dark alone is enough for 2nd in my leader bracket 😛
dont wzshame me dazzal
slack issue
lazy vacation week lost me demote protection then ended up in whel bracket earlier this week
was super lazy vacay time, completely missed BRS's shard event
at least i didn't forget to spend my event currency this time unlike the prev patch
oh i didnt even mention how i forgot to finish PPC one week
@hazy sandal can confirm? 
Both paid
where's the 4 consecutive tho
Back to back paid
Nana, ish, Lilith
Nanami -> Ish -> Lilith -> then prob Selena
lilith is confirmed S rank next patch after Ishmael
Lilith is """free"""
oh confirmed those are gonna be s ranks too eh? well i guess makes sense for selena, how ppl know its her? i guess 5th anni
Lilith banner is so tempting tho, I'll pull on it if it's worth
the most "free" S rank you want to spend 16k bc on anyways
Just a guess
lilith banner has wayyyy too many goodies
yeah always bs '"free" when sig and cub mandatory these days
Lilith is either dark tank or phys attacker

nah she has special banner system
why cant i continue after 10km ?
Lilith sig is free
so basically
Lilith S rank omniframe next patch after Ishmael, on a special permanent and limited time banner system
60 special rolls are given for free through permanent and limited time content
First permanent special banner has a max of 60 rolls and will give Lilith copy, Lilith 6* wep, and COINS
After initial 60 have been cleared, a second limited time banner will be unlocked
can roll another 80 times, includes more lilith copies, event r&d tickets, and more coins
Coins can be exchanged for further rewards, including:
20 lilith shards
Lilith CUB
lilith memories
mem USBs
lilith skin
(DO NOT EXPECT TO GET THESE ALL FREE)
To roll further on the lilith gacha (the limited time 80 pity one), convert BC or event R&D to special gacha tickets at a 1:1 ratio. Each pull on special lilith banners costs 200 tickets
while either special banner is available, Lilith’s Themed Banner and Fate Themed Banner are not available
Once the patch ends, the permanent banner (60 pity) and permanent items in the coin shop will remain, including (some?) free pulls
However, the limited time banner, limited time shop items, and excess special gacha tickets will expire
press back and scroll down
Cub should be free too I think
Watch her cub to be broken as fu k
oh ok actually sounods kinda free then
And she got broken sss3 cus fck u
CUB is only a maybe
OOOOOH , THANK YOU
we don't know the cost of the CUB in shop

so tl;dr what do you get for 16k? (not 15k this time?)
Another Lilith copy, skin, 20 extra shards
for 16k you get
2 copies + 20 shards
CUB
Wep
Skin
Mem USBs
Sig Mems
and some yellow tickets
Oh we get yellow tickets too? That's interesting
damn hard to use wata
here we go her patch is on 7th
tho some of that is apparently prob free? or when daz said wep "free" he meant "free if you pull for lilith"

only on the 80 pity banner
lilith will have the free unit syndrome 100%
U get 60 free pulls
only 1 copy and sig are free
also they might not be permanently free either
In which u get 1 Lilith copy and weapon for free
the free 60 pulls are said to be rewards for doing permanent and time limited missions
It's still some cashback tho
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you might not get all 60 if you do it late
10 pull would be nice
hence "free"
ok extra 50 shards + goodies for 16k pretty tempting. will her shards be in voucher shop
yes
Spreadsheet for bc earned in story stages pls
eh sounds like prob like LNY gift of starlight stuff, usually not too hard if you play weekly
13.5k value banner if we get 2.5k yellow tix

yeah but everyone else is perma free
but if her shards are voucherable anyway than spending BC for shards feels a lot less nice
this sounds like you still have to drop some bc for lilith if you are late to her patch
kuro getting greedier i guess
It's just like how u pull Alisa and kaleido
if they put her copy at 40 pity, her wep at 60
and only 40 pulls are perma free
And wanshi, same concept
i didn't pull alisa
lmaooooooooooooooooooo nice sig lock

but wtf damn they're going for 7 s ranks in 8 patches?!
btw is the tutorial in game for epita good forh is rota
nope
No
Tutorial rotations 
whats the rota
Swap > ult > AA > 3red > hold dodge + AA + blaze orb (trigger matrix)> 2 blaze orbs > ult2
Matrix ping + ult1 > AA > 3red > AA > 3red > AA > 3 blaze orbs> ult 2
honestly the skull budget is gonna be kinda brutal with so many S ranks?
unless we're getting mroe free skulls somewhere
Yup if you whel then no problem
ofc its anotherfucking spending event
yeah three spending events
luna lucia ishmael
get yellows and skulls and wep selector for up to 1000 rc spent that patch
how powerful is pyroath compared to wata
conveniently they have 500 rc gacha skin
time to start telling ppl its no longer f2p friendly, can't get all s ranks on debut
much more powerful esp the higher their ranks
BUT
still very reliant on wata
with or without sig
no wata -> pyroath has no one to swap to -> lose amp buff -> garbage solo rot
SS + Sig because is 60% of his orbs per rotation
gg no sig
hmmmmmm eh.... ill get her on rerun
and i suppose all the good stuff isn't going to be given at 166 or whatever the monthly+bp amount is
lemme check
Iirc yeah good things are quite late
30 Rainbow Card: 250
Overclocking Crystal Coin·High 960, Overclocking Crystal Coin·Extreme 160
128 Rainbow Card:
500, 100 
328 Rainbow Card:
1000, 150
, Resonance Accelerator*25
648 Rainbow Card:
1500, 250 
1000 Rainbow Cards:
2500, 1 6-star Weapon Selection Box
lol skipping lucia? ded
yes
there u go
good stuff only at 648rc
i wonder if its worth cracking open my reserves for wata sig
well, 100 skull and 750 yellow is something i guess (for 128)
at 1k it is just whatever
Chat who should I give harmo to, feral/cw or empy
meh, cant be as bad as when im trying to compete with liv empy with solo roland on warzone
idk
gabriel is me
pray for your DMC collab to be A rank
cuz i don't see any A rank teasers coming for a while
i mean as long as collab isn't meta
I hope there's a riot or boycott if kuro goes the same release path as hoyo
they can call it S rank
Tbh those r kinda trash rewards 
Weapon selection box is a reso
yeah harmo accels kinda useless by lucia onwards no?
Btw 
Ig the harmo is useful on Luna
Ishmael spending event has skins instead of the wep selector btw
Ye we should have all chars harmo by then
the two advertised were lamia and qu goth skins
whats inside the weapon selection box?
There's no way 💀
on lucia spending event: up to hanying wep
on luna spending event: up to qu wep

niiice more of this shaming of kuro
wait send screenshot without google tl
Can't u check on huaxu
not super ppc
nova got blocked from seeing it without an account that can access super every week
whales crying too? 
is #3 our feilao? 
Ain't that also on other ver 
based
so we got nanaknight, ishmael, lilith(while free) and then selena. damn
they gotta make the char after lilith a 4 star
i vote roland
lilith is "Free" the quotes are important
f2p in shambles
selena a rank
these units you always want to pull at least once to get them to human rights asap or they're bad 
is it? 
maybe selena will be in another patch after what comes after lilith idk
nah i wish they hold selena for another patch
Ishmael skippable at least 
7 s ranks in 8 patches jsut fcuking brutal
lmao yup that def looks like flaming alright
more reason to pull in fate banner 🔥
after all its just a tease
good news either lilith or the patch after her is CNY
so unlikely to be A rank
it's all fun and game until Kuro gets rid of all A ranks
maybe CNY free 🙏
Should i specify a target member for the S class in the Base Member target? If yes then which one, if no then when do i select it and can i hold on to this check forever?
maybe kuro just wants to accelerate eos
A sound business decision
I think its acceleration of wallets 
they got wuwa as their personal wallet lul
hold until next year
there's a reset later and we don't know if its a +1 to the check event or its a reset to 1
i will get her
oh shiet is that anni5 news as well
if you want to spend it now
Lamia is your best choice
Updated Summary for important stuff in 5th anni:
- Ishmael + Equipment
- Chaos Boss + Babel Tower
- Ishmael SFX Coating
- Oblivion Coating Gacha 500 RC
- Lamia SFX Coating
- Qu Coating (in development)
- Bambi coating (free)
- RC spending rewards, including Lamia/Qu goth skins
- BC reset
- Standard selector reset
- Free CW + signature + cub & Feral 21
- DMC collab
- New anniv background
- Teased selena frame
- free lilith and signature next patch, she’s also voucherable and has a special gacha and special shop to redeem CUB and more shards/memories/mem usbs/skin
wait if its a +1 or reset, either way you want to spend before the reset point right
I have gurantee for her and wep after 14 pull calcharo 
yeah cuz that hanying ss3 is 
well i'll be using mine for wata sss
Shouldnt i spend it then since i would be wasting a check event? And why next year?
i have not played wuwa daily so idk if i can get her f2p 
Would be interesting to see a graph of how many players PGR loose each patch
should have enough BC to pull HY ss3 (well SS+ skulls)
cuz that's when ishmael patch would be
ishmael?
yes
well, kuro needs to step up their game if they want to beat the hoyovillains 
that's the patch they reset the standard banner selector
i think i know why kuro did a lot of s release
they heard us saying we have wallet when they gave out free chars so theyre testing us now
wait what the heck free cw + feral + sig + cub?? also what is BC reset, just the annual 2x first time BC buy?
yes
they listened lmao
We need more CN bros protesting with nickname
So std selector is gone if not used by Ishmael patch? 
free cw + her sig + her CUB + free feral
which ironically is not a lot by vet and newbie standards
what is cw, feral, sig, cub? and has the 5th year anniversary soon?
CW is voucherable and no longer main DPS
feral is like the only good thing out of it lmao
is ss3 feral useful for rots still
no glb server is a year or so behind CN
can global even survive those consecutive pull s-ranks? how much skipping 
no
Nah
probably not
nope its literally the climb to SSS because of how obscene nanami is dmg wise that her swap team reqs are sky high
Ishmael
"are they actually going to spend?........ hey get the creative department running on overdrive we need more s ranks!"

even "free" costs you skulls cub tix red tix harmo ht mats
and no free feral shards yet for SSSing so kinda useless? at least free CW helps save vouchers
they will probably skip ishmael cuz they saw ishy succ at beta
They should just release bad s rank every other patch
lululul
creative department: "4x smexy pls"
and maybe nanaknight cuz idk reddit
Save cw by skipping nanaknight
you mean alphasimps in general
When people said there was no such thing as meta 
yeah
and according to CN testers
SS0 + sig/cub nanami requires minimum SSS Leaped CW and either high wep reso feral or SSS to swap
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oh god yes sorry i forgot about them
yeah that's why cw is voucherable that same patch
wait sorry even if you have sss cw, swap no good unless you also have sss or ss3 + r3 feral?

Sssing cw for op qte
SS + r2
feral is just pure qte bot/lingya holder
expensive support character 
ok well maybe managable with free CW sig to feed feral i guess
thing is nanami solo is exceptionally the most braindead AND strongest solo in the game
Ok cool so me not scoring higher with swap is backed up
all 2 times they made 2 s ranks in a row so far they give standard banner selector later
CW and Qu have nothing on nanami
ill take that over solo cw
also me liek bananami
like a basic nanami rot is
2 3ping -> 4 basic attacks -> hold atk -> ult
and you're done
so when's the free lightning team stuff, on ish patch?
it even regens orbs from basics and ult
Finally a brainded chara?

yes
supposedly its permanent too but i can't confirm that so assume temp for now
if not perma then new players have even less hope than before haha
nana got her redemption arc fulfilled after wata incident 
kuro really trying to rush EOS
wata incident?
doesn't matter
new players just select nanami on standard the next patch
and then rip that free cw

true but free sig for reso is something at least
also CW qte bot is actually a thing now
still needs sss to even be a viable qte bot 
what wata incident?
but ok sounds like with monthly+BPs then swap light still viable considering i already have r1 on feral
SSS leap CW has a "after ult2, QTE DMG +1000% base dmg increase permanently"
from 600% QTE to 6600%
getting replaceed after 1 yr as the fastest S rank replacement
oh, I thought lee got it more dirty
when other teams were in way more dire need of refreshes
so are you supposed to start from cw get 2nd ult and never swap tp her again
well, nana got it dirty because lee got it dirty
nah lee still chilling a tiny bit
its fine in hindsight
because fire was 4th best team then, only better than ice

and qu was the very next patch
did qu save ice tho 
do 1 CW rotation -> swap off and just spam qte after
i wonder who the weak link was in fire team? :thinkderp:
i mean they could've just leaped lee instead
dmg wise yes
mald wise no

probably lee
it was mech and then lee after wata
lucia didn't need to be so soon but it was coming one way or another
i am bald so ez clap i can mald
lee almost made it to 2 years
nah they probably wanted to kill his ass looking at how lucia came so soon
will the qte dmg even cover the time you wasted doing 1 rot 
ye
it actually kinda does
CW 1 rot just ult no slam is pretty fast
timestop is funny like that
its what like 3s or something
so what would be the light team with nanaknight assuming no cw sss or cw at all?
SS0 Nanaknight?
yeah sum like that
arclight feral kekw
best is SSS garn (has more shred than SS0 Nanami) + r2 feral
garnet lmao
OOPS I DONT HAVE GARN LOL
oh right garnet "free" by then
fire in general is just chaos
nana ish arclight 
yeah i loterally dont have anything for lightning fk cw
uh
ill still main him after pyroath
two tanks dear
wata is so fk hard to use
too bad that free CW cub looks to be completely useless with SS cub alr
unless i sss+ wanshi early
do you just 2 amp
you can't run ish with more than 1 tank or amp in team
yea..
so you might actually have to cram Ish with a base S CW
if you want to use her over the FREE feral
oh right
FREE Feral 
son of a btch
maybe they'll make umbra crazy strong so cw will not be completely dead 
aight so long as cw isnt the main dps
dobut anyone would pull her sig at that point so ish with sig would still be better
since both alpha cw and balter got leap, whos getting leaped next?
you could just run lux
plume
oh wait ISHmael
im gonna lose it if its wata
Whoever they want to affix leap next
lamia glaciation frfr
imagine lee :kek:
oh lamia needs it
well shi i just fodder his sign
like fr
burn lee would be the ultimate troll
because i think nanaknight would do more dmg than him
wata umbrasurge enabler 
as a burn tank
Burn lee and burn nanami the worst affix to the worst fire char
normally i would cringe at that idea but it punishes cw simps so sure
actually now that i think about it the main reason they give free cw is that so you can run ish with nana 
either him or lamia, but lamia needs it the most
you know how burn works now right
lee already got replaced by 2 char
It got changed since Bridget? 
certain burn type moves deal extra dmg based on the number of flammable/burn stacks active
Yeah
Isn’t there also a part which makes the stacks not dot
And does the damage all at once
Ok I’m tripping
why even giving cope a rank affix options when no one ever reaching hero wz with that
Is 540k a good score for solo s rank wata no harmo no reso ,has sig and no cub
No rotation cuz no fire team,just used Alisa echo and rosetta
probably not but i doubt many ppl here have experience with that setup to know what is actually good
Well it's solo,no fire team,not max because reso,hypertune and pact bonus as well as harmo gives huge buff,just used Alisa and Rosetta for the team so can't really get a good score
good enough
I can't do rotation with s rank
reso hypertune pact and harmo are not huge enough buffs to differ such a low score
They are really big,I mean 1 extra set,2 extra memories,reso and hypertune is like 1.5x the normal stats
it really isn't
Yeah what rotation with him
probably a very clunky one idk
s rank with better scores cannot be in the same sentence anyway 
fire still much lower than dark
how do i press this....
press Y
is there any way to get a 3 star combat knife? im trying to scrap a sword but i cant unequip the sword other than research
press y
ss0 wata or ss0 lamia on hamlet? 
empy is without harmo for the reference
tnx
psure lamia sill fastter
do coop and hope to get drop
also never scrap 6 star weaps
If I joined in brs patch,who did j miss
wow what the hell my keyboard took the t and move it there


