📨・meta-help

[normal sierra]

was tight for me too, I remember malding a lot for that one
das why I left float mald for last this week, not in the mood for that carp right now

[dapper skiff]

[deft apex]

So all confirmed leaps huh

[woven haven]

Trueslash dmg used to deal 1x dmg on phys wz

then lucia patch made it 0.3x

[woven haven]

no it was just event funny

Like how deep blue has all those buffs

[wispy robin]

wait so can you actually abuse that till lucia patch

[hidden forum]

💀

[stuck sphinx]

dalao hour

[woven haven]

hanying does trueslash automatically anyways

Even if in phys rotation

so yes her dmg output in phys wz drops

[hidden forum]

bruh whaduhell

[woven haven]

after lucia patch

[hidden forum]

💀

theres no option to even disable her trueslash in phys wz

[woven haven]

she just does minor additional trueslash dmg but yeah 1x -> 0.3x

[remote pier]

this affix thing is really dumb

[woven haven]

its fine

it just additional dmg that doesn’t really matter

in phys version

[stiff elm]

I am back

[woven haven]

you should be more concerned that phys units in trueslash still deal phys dmg for half their rotations

[stiff elm]

after catching up to "SSS-class suicidal hunter"

[woven haven]

and that’s reduced dmg

[remote pier]

[stiff elm]

why is the romance trope so much better than actual romance specific genres

[remote pier]

surely Alisa trueslash leap next

[woven haven]

balter core, hanying pre ult dmg, all of alisa dmg

all phys dmg

not trueslash

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-car-explode-cat-boom-bah-gif-5387928273689188008

[woven haven]

so until they can start doing trueslash they deal like -40% dmg

[stiff elm]

btw how do people trigger stigmata final hit fast?

[woven haven]

which is why the dmg disparity on trueslash wz is easy to see

when you deal phys vs dealing trueslash

[stiff elm]

like usually you need to use full attack combo to start the trueslash swordwave

but, in a video I saw someone use the last hit of the basic attack immediately?

i may be misremembering it.

[remote pier]

rip newbies

[woven haven]

https://youtu.be/7cWyiOmWWZ4?si=Kp9oM3rfeP3Zqbyq @hidden forum

[woven haven]

if you have signature just dodge -> basic

[stiff elm]

wait fr? BRUHHHH NOW I REALLLLY NEED HER SIG

hghghehhahieghghah

[woven haven]

if balter can do flying swordwaves she has the option to just dodge -> basic for the trueslash combo

and you get the ability to do swordwaves either from sig or 4 basics

[remote pier]

Interesting that you still swap to Alisa

[woven haven]

balter rot is too fast

And hanying swap cd not fast enough

so you are forced to field alish*t

[woven haven]

its not as bad for low invest

[remote pier]

can't do 2 rot w/ Balter?

[woven haven]

balter needs to consume trueslash charges to deal trueslash

her ult also needs to consume 10 insight points to deal max trueslash dmg

you aren’t meant to solo

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

trueslash is resource management

[remote pier]

rip solo meta

[woven haven]

you can’t just simply prolong the rotation

[stiff elm]

anyways since theres another standard selector at like.. ishmael, right?

I can get ss3 hanying from there for trueslash

[mighty horizon]

What is the best way to get 5* weapons?

[woven haven]

yeah you can if you aren’t missing anyone

[remote pier]

coop

[dapper skiff]

5* weapon recycle shop

[stiff elm]

by then I should have all my teams filled, except for dark amp.

[woven haven]

unironically
gacha for the 6* and you get 5* easy

but f2p method is coop slog to grind wep shards

wtf setsu roasting empress gameplay

[stiff elm]

? did huaxu update?

[woven haven]

[stiff elm]

diff ui

[pliant rose]

Next patch is tomorrow right?

[stiff elm]

honestly I can fw this

[stiff elm]

tomorrow tomorrow.

[woven haven]

yes to accomodate cn wz changes

[mighty horizon]

In which case, is it better to pull for weapons or try and pull 21 for the lightning team

[woven haven]

focus on getting new units

don’t bother with weapons or old units as f2p

Lightning team falls off very quickly soon for glb

so prioritise new units

[dapper skiff]

It's actually tomorrow for some part of the world already

[woven haven]

like watanabe and qu

[remote pier]

CW qte bot

[nova forum]

Damn everything is so systematically p2w

[quick talon]

[stiff elm]

uhh what patch does scire shards appear in voucher shop again?

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

pgr becoming more p2w by the day

[stiff elm]

solacetune patch right?

[wispy robin]

what do you have against the most f2p friendly gacha

[stiff elm]

yep

[nova forum]

The bugs

[stiff elm]

aight let me see, so I think I can catch up by hyperdawn for my teams to be finished actually

Wata fire tank, Shukra replace plume, SS empy from teddy patch, SS3 stigmata from oblivion selector, solacetune for phys so that's crossed off and SS3 scire from vouchers, lucid dreamer finishes off ice team, hyperdawn finishes off fire team and SS6 stigmata + voucher shards means I can SSS, nanaknight, and then ishmael I can SS3 hanying

[nova forum]

Kuro so lazy that they haven't fix the bugs from 2022

[stiff elm]

cool, by hyperdawn ill no longer be brick

[nova forum]

Some bugs are also so consistent that it's like they're hard coded

[stiff elm]

💀 that's a long time.

[nova forum]

[normal sierra]

what bugs?

*that's a feature *

[nova forum]

Shut

[normal sierra]

[stiff elm]

ult cancel my favorite mechanic fr

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

hard coded

[stiff elm]

hard

[nova forum]

Who's hard

[normal sierra]

what a cool feature!

[stiff elm]

@shadow holly @thorn creek

unbrick soon, all it will take is 9 months 💀

new selena better be dark amp

im so tired of capriccio, real selena gotta take back her rightful place

[thorn creek]

Go get ready for Walter banner

[grand jay]

They tease a new S rank this way in advance only for her to be a dark amp?

[pine slate]

It's a Capri skin trust

[thorn creek]

Nah new light atker

[grand jay]

Void 2 is coming buddy

[stiff elm]

btw if theres no amp or tank does ishmael favor one?

or does ishmael just implode or something

[shadow holly]

she just doesn't do anything then

[quick talon]

What's a good fire team?

[grand jay]

She stays observer if you already have a tank and amp

[shadow holly]

just a stick that does void damage

[grand jay]

Lee, Watanabe, Liv

[livid lark]

once the patch drops tomorrow, watanabe, hyperreal, empyrea

[stiff elm]

lmao I like that, a stick.

[livid lark]

anything besides this is not optimal

[quick talon]

I see

[long copper]

Tbf that BB-S-1 was absolutely BS! Took Kyo 20hrs apparently to clear that stage using low stars all stars

[quick talon]

Ig I'll stick with physical team

[livid lark]

you need all teams to perform well

[long copper]

Wait, what server am I in again? 😂

[livid lark]

and if you're lacking units for a particular team, you start pulling for a meta unit of that element when it drops

and no, "i don't have units for (insert element) team for that new unit" isn't an excuse

[woven haven]

implodes

[floral plover]

kaboom

[lethal sun]

Dn

[woven haven]

if there’s one support or amp, she’s tank
if there’s one tank, she’s amp

if there’s 2 support/amps, implodes
if there’s 2 tanks, implodes
if there’s a tank and an amp/support, implodes
if there’s no tank or amp, implodes

if no sig mem, implodes
if no sig, implodes
if no sss, implodes

[floral plover]

at the end she's better as amp or as tank?
in void and off element shenanigans I mean

[grand jay]

In Void tank

Off element amp but she's not on field

[floral plover]

SSS smh

[woven haven]

considering half the other elemental tanks are dps

She’s Off element amp mainly

but void tank cuz she’s got shred field and okay shred numbers

but be warned

ishmael cannot run eins outside of void

and she cannot onfield outside of void

so pure qtebot

[slender aurora]

they bouta give void all special classes for the main 3 huh

[stiff elm]

im guessing ishmael is the equivalent of phys or can she ele shred/boost

[woven haven]

can’t

[stiff elm]

nvm stupid question ignore that

[woven haven]

unless they add an entirely new clause for ishmael

[grand jay]

Void is basically complete as of Ishmael

No need for anymore units for that element

[woven haven]

she can shred/buff fire/ice/light/dark

[slender aurora]

mmmm i see

[floral plover]

the sig on her is basically the 10% changing to 20% in both tank and amp, or it also is essential to her kit like the certain 10 characters prior to her?

[woven haven]

based on her kit

[stiff elm]

yeah but that would what, probably only be good for ppc?

or duo swap ig

[woven haven]

sig =
shred 15% -> 25%
heal buff 10% -> 20%

[woven haven]

pretty much
and still gimped because no eins

so need to run 4guin

only person she truly replaces at same rank is capri in dark ppc

[stiff elm]

also tank is better cause of her sig memory set too iirc -for void-

[nova forum]

Wadapak 25% shred

[grand jay]

Only for a patch though

[woven haven]

ss3 +10% (except dark)
sss +10%

[grand jay]

Lilith is the likely candidate to replace Capri

[nova forum]

Except dark?🗿

[grand jay]

She's free too so

[woven haven]

Lmao sig mem is so needed on her to field at all

[floral plover]

they keeping dark pay to win
Sell Lilith's SSS

[woven haven]

dark tank ishmael at sss has 35% shred and no -3s swap cd

[grand jay]

Dark still has Daren who did leap but she only has 35%

[woven haven]

every other tank type ishmael

has 45% shred and -3s swap cd on sss

[grand jay]

Ishmael has parity with the respective tank of that element

[woven haven]

except daren ironically

the one they specifically did parity for

because daren still has 5% extra edr shred

at sss

[livid lark]

so ishmid?

[slender aurora]

at what rank for other tanks would it make more sense for ishmael to switch to amp then?

[woven haven]

Wdym

[slender aurora]

uhhh lemme try to rephrase that

[stiff elm]

im pretty sure her tank always outperforms her amp in void wz

[woven haven]

its just based on who is the missing unit
ishmael will cover for that slot as an okay qte bot

[long copper]

What is this?

[woven haven]

In void wz she acts like tank because amp slot has easier time carrying support mems like dv

[stiff elm]

trash

[livid lark]

don't bother building that

[woven haven]

useless pos
ignore him

[long copper]

Hahaha

[grand jay]

I've seen a couple Nanaknights be run in Void WZ

They end up holding DV which is wild

[livid lark]

we got 4 months left until uniframes are completely dead

[slender aurora]

so you wouldnt be using any other tank in place of ishmael?

[woven haven]

yeah that’s a bricked set

[grand jay]

Figures

Not like she does dmg in Void WZ anyways

[woven haven]

nanaknight qte only hits shred on initial first hit
subsequent qte hits / qte field don’t shred without sig mem and we allllll know what needing sig mem means

[stiff elm]

well ishmael memory set benefits tank last I was told so theres no reason to move her off of what is better

[woven haven]

to get decent off field shred you need the tank to hold sig mem now

[grand jay]

Yeah

[woven haven]

so might as well let ishmael do it

[grand jay]

They're holding 4pc sig 4pc DV

[stuck sphinx]

im free

[wispy robin]

he comes in handy to clear the early ppc stages when you have no units

[slender aurora]

mmmm i see

[woven haven]

anddddd there goes 4pc shred and guin/eins

[grand jay]

Yeah lol

[woven haven]

its literally just a matter of “how many support mems can you cram into one team”

that’s all modern pgr has done with harmo

[grand jay]

Still scored decently from what I saw but ik that v4 nerfed Ishmael w/o sig mem set

[livid lark]

did ishmael get the capri treatment on release?

or like slightly better

[woven haven]

more like

[grand jay]

She's mandatory

For Void now

[woven haven]

v3 nerfed ishmael without sig mem set
v4 nerfed ishmael sig mem and rotation

[grand jay]

V2 buffed her dmg significantly

[woven haven]

If you don’t do the dropkick her ult dmg is cut in half

[stiff elm]

imagine if pgr got an open world

[grand jay]

And I think the other 2 patches had qols

[stiff elm]

like just randomly gets an open world gamemode

[grand jay]

So now she can do 3 ults during Luna downtime

You need to slam beforehand though

[long copper]

What's the deal with these transcendental/unframes? He's randomly lv 60 when in still only 53, there seems to be an entire section dedicated to these, they have finishing moves??

[stuck sphinx]

theyre basically useless

[grand jay]

At worst she's actually slightly behind Luna in dmg which is something you want for a big release like this

[wispy robin]

he gets debuff when used with regular units so you can only use him solo

[stuck sphinx]

guild and norman gives you trials for them

[woven haven]

honestly

not a fan of running cottie on ishmael

[long copper]

Oh, interesting.

[woven haven]

its so bricked for cramming support mems

[livid lark]

it's old content
basically what kuro tried to do was make a separate type of unit for more content
however, that failed because people generally lean towards playing for meta such as the competitive modes (cn gets priority when it comes to feedback)

[grand jay]

I get there's probably some shred mem sets you could run on Ishmael

[stiff elm]

what time will maintenance end on 31'st?

[stuck sphinx]

2h after reset

[stiff elm]

oh sweet so literally 5 in the morning for me

[grand jay]

But from the looks of things you need someone to cover Luna downtime and gen 3 tanks aren't helping anymore

[stiff elm]

wait when is the reset again I might be mistaken about the time

[woven haven]

half sure the reason why luna dmg looks so low is people taking off support mems for ishmael dps sets

[wispy robin]

he still get a lot of use in early game when you need several teams for something like norman or stronghold so you can lvl his weapon for it but not worth investing beyond that

[stiff elm]

anyways this time for sure, watch, stigmata sig guys

[woven haven]

which is like “ofc that was going to happen”

[stiff elm]

for suuuuure.

[grand jay]

It's paying off in high scores though

[zenith thorn]

ping me if you got sophia sig

[zenith thorn]

L

[stiff elm]

got my hopes tad bit high

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

[stiff elm]

you hit pity on it b4?

not even half

[woven haven]

what’s the highest score mem setups right now

[zenith thorn]

why is new ppc calc so weird

i thought it was a just a change of base value

[grand jay]

Lemme check

Hopefully no1 hasn't hidden their set

[karmic hare]

🧐

[woven haven]

? cuz they distributed test and elite base and time scores to knight and above

onslaught retains old hell scoring but only 2 stages per week

the third stage score is ignored

[still moat]

this feels so slow lmao

whats global knight time on lamia ?

[livid lark]

what invest

[karmic hare]

Bruh 12 second is fast

[still moat]

ss0 hanying

[livid lark]

i think it's fine

exppc lamia

[vale raft]

Lamia

Weakness: Injured (Neutral/No Weakness)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: 5.00s

Difficulty: Knight

HP: 2,096,501
Super Armor: 29,950
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[woven haven]

wait why knight lamia on hanying

[grand jay]

8.5m score on Void WZ

[woven haven]

that’s just a bad matchup

[grand jay]

They used 4pc cottie on Ishmael

[woven haven]

hanying does core dmg

[zenith thorn]

maybe my code is the issue?

[still moat]

physical is my 3rd strongest team

[grand jay]

Interestingly they used 21

[zenith thorn]

but it looks sync up

[stuck sphinx]

wouldnt it be like a 10s kill or faster with lamia

[still moat]

used fire for shorthalt and ice for madorea

[woven haven]

4dv2eins2guin i presume

[grand jay]

Yep

[zenith thorn]

(literally just copy nova code)

[stuck sphinx]

knight is 9s

[woven haven]

2 cottie fks

on void team

[grand jay]

Yeah

[still moat]

yea 12s is slow

[woven haven]

its so over its never been more over

[stuck sphinx]

probably 10s if you dont have ss3 lamia

[karmic hare]

Bruh shorthair is so ass , it’s worst than Ballard

[still moat]

idk how to make it faster with hanying

[karmic hare]

I only got 490k

[stuck sphinx]

wata qu luna can probably instantly kill it as well

[woven haven]

yeah +33% more hp does wonders

[livid lark]

lol shorthair

[still moat]

no ap on them

[livid lark]

that's a new nickname

[grand jay]

Shorthalt sucks lol

[karmic hare]

Damn auto correct

[stuck sphinx]

how do you not have ap on 3 teams

[grand jay]

He dashes in like the first 3 seconds of the fight

[still moat]

on qu and wata

[stuck sphinx]

ok what about luna

[grand jay]

Starting with Wata is not the move lol

[still moat]

i dont have luna

[karmic hare]

Nah it’s how thick he is

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179775282446618645.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[grand jay]

Not just that either

[zenith thorn]

thick of it you would say?

[karmic hare]

Like he has double ballard’s HP or something , it feels like it

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-thick-of-it-lyrics-trash-garbage-gif-5232327396945781667

[grand jay]

Iirc he has 22m

[woven haven]

17 -> 22 mil hp

[karmic hare]

Damn

[woven haven]

about a 30% increase

[karmic hare]

I got roughly the same for miadra

[zenith holly]

umm guys, if i for some reason have SSS CW but no feral and garnet. who is more important between the two that i dont have if i can only get one of them now? feral first or garnet first

[stuck sphinx]

how are you planning on getting them

[grand jay]

Feral first

[stuck sphinx]

the same way as the "for some reason"?

[zenith holly]

the 70% rotation banner

[livid lark]

and why do you think it's a good idea to pull on there

[karmic hare]

Feral

[livid lark]

instead of just the 100% banner

[slender aurora]

i think bro likes gambling

[karmic hare]

Get Star Trial later

[woven haven]

look he has sss cw and no feral or garn its already over

[zenith holly]

bcs in for the last 3 years i played itts finally reaching its pity lmao

coping

[woven haven]

does he look like he’s going to listen to advice

its going to be cw simping replies

[zenith holly]

no no no i got SSS CW in 27 pulss + ppc shop guys thats what i mean for some reason

[livid lark]

yea that's the point
you weren't supposed to go that far if you're playing normally

[woven haven]

what the fk…?

[slender aurora]

he got 3 copies in 3 ten pulls? 💀

[woven haven]

sss cw with no garn or feral is worse than ss cw with garn and feral

[livid lark]

well rip that's a brick

[stuck sphinx]

wtf my lucksack doko

[grand jay]

That's some ridiculous luck

[karmic hare]

Either dev luck or bought with excess shards

[distant wren]

4 copies

[grand jay]

Either way though you need to round out your lightning team

So you need to get Feral

[stiff elm]

should I finally move her out of purgatory?

[slender aurora]

that rate of return is ludicrous

[grand jay]

Garnet can wait at this point

[slender aurora]

imo yes

[karmic hare]

Already out with her new frame

[grand jay]

No

[stiff elm]

bet.

[slender aurora]

if you dont have capri SSS alr its jover for you

we bouta enter the era of leaps every other patch

[zenith holly]

not even whale to CW i swear. i just want to complete the lighting team slowly now that the 70% banner is almost pity and have feral

[slender aurora]

which means voucherables everywhere

no time for capri anymore

[livid lark]

the fact that you even considered pulling on arrival is a brick

[slender aurora]

might as well unlock for collection purposes

[stiff elm]

still dont know element though, I swear to god if they release her after ishmael im going to die

[livid lark]

you should have been saving for wata coming tomorrow

[stiff elm]

f2p super unfriendly -> f2p murderer

[grand jay]

They won't Lilith is right after

[livid lark]

rather than pulling on arrival

[karmic hare]

Lilith is after Ishmael

[stiff elm]

..............S or A

[grand jay]

S rank

[karmic hare]

Free S

[still moat]

idk how to kill faster

[grand jay]

She's free though

[stiff elm]

OH MY LOR- okay nevermind

[karmic hare]

Free S with Free Weapon and Cub

[grand jay]

The method she has is different

[stiff elm]

oh so its literally an ultra saving patch?

[grand jay]

There's a special gacha she has that can be pulled for entirely free

[karmic hare]

Depends , free but not from dorm

[grand jay]

Gated behind missions ofc

[old matrix]

how to claim black card dailies? just logon and it automatically does it?

[karmic hare]

Just click on it 💀

[stiff elm]

not a big deal for me, as someone with mpa I have to play every day or else I lose 10 cents worth of black cards

[livid lark]

from mpa?

or do you mean the one in your mission rewards menu

[old matrix]

ya

[livid lark]

yea just log in and collect

[old matrix]

yeah but wdym by collect

[stiff elm]

look in event for the first time though

[old matrix]

does it do it automatically when i login

[livid lark]

it goes to your BC count upon login

[old matrix]

oh, thats good

[livid lark]

yes

[grand jay]

Selena probably won't be out until Feb

[old matrix]

some games put it in mail which is very annoying

[grand jay]

She also might not even creep anyone

[livid lark]

otherwise just check the event menu and scroll all the way down

[grand jay]

They teased Luna this way as well

[karmic hare]

New year unit

[grand jay]

No one knew what kind of role she would take but then they straight up announce tease void the patch before

She's most likely Void 2

[karmic hare]

Void amp

Or another hybrid class

[remote pier]

[still moat]

not bad i guess

[quiet lily]

smh not even 620

[livid lark]

look on the bright side, at least you made it to onslaught

[stuck sphinx]

mado higher than lamia

[quiet lily]

[old matrix]

when update?

[still moat]

one tap and leave gaming

[livid lark]

tomorrow

[quiet lily]

maintenance in 24hrs

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

[still moat]

no 3s + shred reso wanshi does that to qu

she need 2 ult even though the second ult is overkill

[shadow holly]

MPA bc is basically just included into normal login rewards
you can see them below the usual rewards

[old matrix]

i see

[river nymph]

who is gonna be up for a pull stream?

[still moat]

wth she is so small

[livid lark]

aether likes her very much

[hazy sandal]

[still moat]

the way she smiles on intro i thought she is a mommy

[stiff elm]

god da- I keep forgetting about bianca veritas

[river nymph]

[stiff elm]

and how every time you dodge with her you basically get flashed

[shadow holly]

me too

[remote pier]

[livid lark]

the BA players

[shadow holly]

5am
imagine

[remote pier]

oh wait, new patch is on Halloween?

[river nymph]

2am for me

[shadow holly]

actually normal time

[remote pier]

isn't it day after tmr?

[livid lark]

ya

[stiff elm]

@shadow holly why veritas love to flash people?

[livid lark]

oh wait no

[shadow holly]

but 5am is a stupid in-between time
too late to stay up
too early to wake up

[livid lark]

24 hours until maint and then another 8 hours before patch drop

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

idk ur issue I think

[remote pier]

Hm... stay up for Xeno stream?

[livid lark]

gonna spend lots of time in celica's class

[stiff elm]

different type of flash.

anyways the thighs of all time though dam

[remote pier]

5am is perfectly normal wake up time wym?

[hazy sandal]

110V nose

[shadow holly]

I don't have 6am shifts

[livid lark]

eh I get up between 6-7

so normal for me

[remote pier]

I used to get up that time, now I get up at 5:30

[stiff elm]

how tf do you zoom so close

[remote pier]

you can gym or walk the doggos/cat/another hooman

[remote pier]

imagine waking up to this

[still moat]

wz run

[quiet lily]

[hazy sandal]

Git gud

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[sly geyser]

wz ? looks like ppc to me

[karmic hare]

That is ppc

[sly geyser]

but still trash score

[livid lark]

that looks like hell ppc or onslaught

[long copper]

Man I really want a different outfit for Rosetta, cuz her boobs weird me out. That Niki1000 fit looks fire, but I imagine it's either impossible or really difficult to obtain sigh

[livid lark]

336k score

[still moat]

onslaught yea

[quiet lily]

ss0 onslaught run

[livid lark]

rc coating

need to swipe for it

[stuck sphinx]

lucky

[long copper]

I just might lol

[sly geyser]

swipe for ur sanity

[stuck sphinx]

xenolao want to watch wz?

[river nymph]

sure

[stuck sphinx]

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

at least the einherjar coating is free with the blueprints
the white one

in case you like it

[livid lark]

that one is nice

[sly geyser]

even whels struggle with onslaught?

[livid lark]

one of the better free coatings

[shadow holly]

yea its really good

[manic juniper]

help? Why does it still sat 3/13

[livid lark]

visual glitch

dont worry about it

[long copper]

It looks good, i like it ngl, but the red one looks 👌

[shadow holly]

imo the biggest upgrade in terms of free coating vs default skin is bambi
if we dont count one-time free coatings like alisa's
but i also like alisa base skin too so she wouldnt pass

[long copper]

But it's not in the shop 😭

[livid lark]

yea you need to wait for it to come around

[sly geyser]

trash game made with ass-

[livid lark]

i dont actually know when that rerun will happen again

you might want to start looking at other coatings

other units have some good coatings

[long copper]

I had the same issue, was showing 0/13, but not it's fixed. Didn't do nothing.

[livid lark]

better than rose imo

[shadow holly]

alisa coating

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-liv-solaeter-empyrea-gif-27432669

[shadow holly]

and oblivion first coating

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-grey-bianca-gif-16194746504111521182

this one is my favourite so far ☝️

[shadow holly]

L + ratio its gorgeous but im not swiping for a coating that ill see on field for 10% of the time in wz at most

[livid lark]

i have the white coating as her wedding dress

[long copper]

Yeah, I probs will get the white one. That boobs on base look gloopy af. By the time she hits 60, they'll be down to her knee caps I bet

[brave mist]

quick question: is the pgr x brs story gone forever if you haven't done it?

[livid lark]

that's what i look at it to remind me that i'm married to her

[quiet lily]

most likely yes

[brave mist]

rip i have been busy

[quiet lily]

u have until the next reset to finish the story

time to skip

[still moat]

@rocky wedge this is weird, why dont she have enough energy to ult on second rot ?

[brave mist]

i wish pgr had an archive system so i can read back whenever when im done with it

[hazy sandal]

[long copper]

I swear some1 mentioned it'd be avail in the codex or smth

[shadow holly]

[opaque ridge]

read

[livid lark]

did you draw this setsulao?

[livid lark]

someone is making one outside of pgr

[hazy sandal]

No I can’t draw

[sly geyser]

it'll still be readable at the codex section ig... but u'll miss some BC

[hazy sandal]

I only know how to draw ‘cards’ in yugioh

[long copper]

Yeah, what yall on about?

[shadow holly]

omg yugioh are you a fellow reading enthusiast

[hazy sandal]

[brave mist]

oh aight but im guessing none of the fights are in it

[shadow holly]

i love having an essay on each card

[stiff elm]

jesus christ my laptop keeps freezing

[hazy sandal]

[sly geyser]

just reading bro no fights

[long copper]

Have you tried wrapping it in a blanket to warm it up?

[dapper skiff]

[sly geyser]

u can also throw it out the window

[shadow holly]

BRS is...lost media?!

[sly geyser]

BRS is .nomedia

[long copper]

Fk! Wuwa dailies! Shitnshit !

[quiet lily]

dead IP dead unit

[shadow holly]

[grave lava]

Are any of the "limited version" items in the shop for "Games of Chess" something you can only get from this event?

Idk if I want to get the dorm set or the memory set

[sly geyser]

yes

if not used it'll turn into cogs

[quiet lily]

millionaire speedrun

[sly geyser]

so make sure to use them before the maintenance start

[grave lava]

Alrighty, guess it's time to burn through my fuel then

I'll just get the memory and dorm set, not gonna grind for the resources since I'm a new player and I don't wanna burn all my stamina

[shadow holly]

yea its easier to save the serum bottles for the farming event next patch atp

[rugged cloud]

the mems are not limited, just discounted for this version
Darwin, right?

[stiff elm]

fck it, I like my laptop, time to underclock the cpu

heehheheheheioahdhaeihfohiuhfe

[rugged cloud]

when can I start downloading the update?
after reset?

(next reset I mean)

[sly geyser]

after maintenance starts u mean ?

[quiet lily]

maybe pre download will come after reset

[shadow holly]

bricked game
no pre dl when patch is in 2 days

basically 1 even

[quiet lily]

indie dev

[rugged cloud]

No, cause If I remember correctly, maintenance starts before tomorrow's reset, and ends on reset
At least that's what happenedd dlast patch

[quiet lily]

give them some chance

[sly geyser]

they'll add this feature in Luna iirc

so just wait for patch copy paste

[quiet lily]

we still getting pre download few patches before this also, so maybe we can still get it on next reset

they just dont have the consistency for it yet

[sly geyser]

it'll start 5 hours b4 reset and end 2 hours after

and the version is usually available 1 hour after the maintenance starts

[rugged cloud]

Oh, I see
remembered wrong then
thanks

[sly geyser]

at least for Google play

[rocky wedge]

u need to only matrix after the 3blue in ult mode, otherwise ye u wont have enough energy

[rugged cloud]

[rocky wedge]

not sure if there is a way to fix that or to play diff Dx Cause for me now if I matrix when I dont want too, i reset xd

[grave lava]

Yeah. Is it still worth picking up the memory set?

[sly geyser]

no

[still moat]

what even trigger the matrix ? cause im sure i didnt dodge there

[rugged cloud]

not really, unless you need it

[sly geyser]

just pick the dorm set that one is actually limited ig

[rocky wedge]

i think the yellow after the red is an automatic dodge

[grave lava]

Well, that would've been good to know before burning up my fuel-

Now I got an extra 2k nameless fire lying about lol

[still moat]

i see

[sly geyser]

[rugged cloud]

use for cogs, or mats that you'd need for uncle

buy the cog pack, its more worth than loose cogs

[grave lava]

uncle? You mean the camu I just got for reaching lv 52?

[sly geyser]

not him

uncle is Watanabe

he's coming next patch

[long copper]

Hey! We're almost the same level 😄

[livid lark]

that's not uncle

this is uncle

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-watanabe-epitaph-watanabe-ult-gif-11507991544754566145

or >sss uncle

sss uncle

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - SSS

Break the Siege

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Fire Resistance reduction effect of Scorching Invasion inflicted by Watanabe increases by 10%. Gain 1 Blaze Orb upon using Infernal Eruption.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Increases animation speed while consecutively performing Thermal Erosion. Maximum stacks of Thermal Superconductivity increases to 6. Increases the buff effect granted by each stack of Thermal Superconductivity by 5%. When Watanabe successfully parries an attack for the first time upon entering the battlefield, additionally gains 1 Blaze Orb. Fire Resistance reduction effect of Scorching Invasion inflicted by Watanabe: Epitaph increases by 10%. Reduces swap cooldown of all party members by 3s.

[quiet lily]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-yourself-safe-kys-watanabe-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-3714404500333171557

[mighty tusk]

Which onslaught ppc boss can have void weakness?

Cradle only?

[woven haven]

all bucko

every boss has every possible weakness

[mighty tusk]

Then it rotates

[livid lark]

aether made that infographic

[woven haven]

just that lamia has the edr shred bonus exclusive to her

[opaque ridge]

all onslaught bosses are weak to money

[sly geyser]

u only have one boss with 3 weaknesses per rotations every week un onslaught

u can only play twice btw

[woven haven]

no

you have unlimited tries

[opaque ridge]

2 tries bruh

[woven haven]

but every unit can only be used on one stage

if you want to wipe the current recorded score you can reset it

[sly geyser]

no play twice like to by choosing what weaknesses u will challenge

[woven haven]

and then you get the usage back

[livid lark]

oh so it works kinda like wz

[woven haven]

just do all 3

And see which 2 highest

[opaque ridge]

u can cheese leaderboard

[grave lava]

I heard there is someone releasing in a few days?

[woven haven]

unless the teams are really conflicting

[sly geyser]

it's possible

[woven haven]

the strongest male in pgr to date yes

[livid lark]

the one I just tagged you with

[woven haven]

https://tenor.com/view/watanabe-pgr-watanabe-watanabe-ultimate-watanabe-ult-1-gif-5342816096236660978

[grave lava]

ah I see

[livid lark]

omg uncle wata

he's here to save fire

[paper bone]

m*le looks like ima skip

[woven haven]

skip him and your account will go down the drain asap

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

This is before ishmael patch right?

[livid lark]

the one that i've saved my BC for over 6 months

[slender aurora]

b- b- but hes a m*le 🥺

[paper bone]

btw does wata do new scores this ppc

[woven haven]

he is the saviour

[sly geyser]

ngl SS wata does even more DMG than SS pyroath from what I've experienced

[livid lark]

ask aether he made it

[woven haven]

not this week

[paper bone]

ig too slow for hamlet

[woven haven]

ishmael adds one boss and 2 affixes that’s all

new void and dark

[paper bone]

if onyl his dumbass was here last week

[woven haven]

wata isn’t exactly off element material

[mighty tusk]

Any details on dark?

[woven haven]

But he will shred neutral/fire like hell

[mighty tusk]

No longer sophia orbs?

[woven haven]

whenever kurobbs guy updates numbers

its still sophia orbs sorry

[paper bone]

I thought ishmael was 2tick

[woven haven]

that much i can tell you

[paper bone]

what is this orbs

[woven haven]

talking about the ppc not ishmael

[paper bone]

oh

[woven haven]

dark onslaught ppc is collect orbs to gain buff

[paper bone]

ohh the affix

bomboclat

[woven haven]

scattered around when you dmg the boss

[dapper skiff]

Can you point out what is infernal eruption on wata?

[paper bone]

just dodge 5head

[woven haven]

red epitaph

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - Red Orb (Lv. 18)

Thermal Erosion
Trigger: Ping Blaze Orb

Continuously swings the blade to generate flames, pulling in nearby enemies, dealing Fire DMG and inflicting Scorching Invasion that reduces the target's Fire Resistance onto enemies hit by this attack. If Watanabe uses this skill precisely the moment before being attacked, he will trigger parry, nullifying incoming DMG and gaining Super Armor and 60% DMG Reduction. Gain 1 stack of Thermal Superconductivity and 12 Energy upon performing this skill. Thermal Superconductivity increases the Base DMG of Flaming Purgation.

• Deals a total of 1200.0% Fire DMG. Scorching Invasion reduces the target's Fire Resistance by 25% for 8s.

2/2

[livid lark]

it's the hook move

[woven haven]

Wait no this is the stupid

[dapper skiff]

Either my eyes is starting to losing it or I just can't find it

[woven haven]

core epitaph

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Warrior's Reflex - Infernal Eruption
Trigger: Paradigm: Assault is active + Possess 3 points of Live Ammunition + Hold Basic Attack

Uses the hook to hover in the air, then dive downwards to attack, pulling in nearby enemies and dealing Fire DMG. This will consume 3 points of Live Ammunition. While performing Infernal Eruption, Watanabe is invincible, but cannot use Flaming Purgation. Gains 12 Energy upon performing this skill.

• Deals a total of 1350.0% Fire DMG.

5/5

[paper bone]

is it a bad TL or a new thing

[dapper skiff]

Hmmm

[woven haven]

there

[paper bone]

oh

[woven haven]

the sh*t move no one uses

[dapper skiff]

So with sig wata will automatically use hook and parry when u use red orb

[woven haven]

its a garbage move

[rugged cloud]

use vouchers or save for this month
I got 30K, not a bp buyer
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14237304/characters

[woven haven]

infernal eruption is bad

[remote pier]

[dapper skiff]

Huh

[woven haven]

sig epitaph

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Night Falcon ★★★★★★

Multimodal Release

ATK increases by 10%. Gain 3 Red Orbs upon activating Paradigm: Assault; gaining at most 6 Red Orbs this way for each time Watanabe enters the battlefield. Watanabe can immediately use Infernal Eruption after pinging Red Orbs.

ATK

436

CRIT

249

Pioneer's Blade

[dapper skiff]

What does sig means then

[paper bone]

I thought you hook red for blaze orbs

[woven haven]

yeah that’s… useless

[dapper skiff]

Ah

[karmic hare]

Signature

[paper bone]

wait what

[woven haven]

it means you can tarzan swing after red orb but the tarzan swing is useless

[dapper skiff]

So with sig you can use that useless move easier than normally

[paper bone]

how do you get blaze from hold dodge

[dapper skiff]

Ight

[woven haven]

matrix

[river nymph]

[paper bone]

so u just hold dodge and u get blaze orbs

[woven haven]

when wata matrixes he gets special red orb
when you use basic atk to trigger riposte it also expends a bullet to generate blaze orb

[paper bone]

I thought u had to ping smt or basic

[woven haven]

you do kinda

[livid lark]

does the riposte require timing?

[paper bone]

like during hold dodge?

[livid lark]

or just basic attack as normal when you got a bullet?

[paper bone]

cuz ik you basic after 3p to use bullet

[woven haven]

just try it and see for yourself

[livid lark]

ahh ok

[woven haven]

As long as your wata doesn’t fly upwards you should have done it correctly

[livid lark]

lmao tarzan swing

[paper bone]

why is roland move even in the game

[livid lark]

for you

[paper bone]

I cant wait to proc tarzan 15 times back to back in vc as I do my pain cage runs

[livid lark]

i dont think it will be as bad as qu orb rng tho

[paper bone]

surely you jsut 3 + 1

:zekecursed:

[woven haven]

Swap in -> ult1 -> basic -> 3red -> hold dodge -> basic to riposte -> 3x specred -> ult2

that’s one rotation

[paper bone]

ohh so hold dodge is like 3p

[rugged cloud]

[paper bone]

wait if youre gonna do more than 1 rot on wata, do you just do 3red basic blaze 3 times in a row

[woven haven]

you get one orb from basic
one orb from matrix on riposte
another from basic causing riposte

[paper bone]

wtf

[woven haven]

not worth cuz his sig stops generating orbs

Past 2 ult1s

[paper bone]

ohhh

[woven haven]

At best just dlt shakespeare rotation

[paper bone]

so thats why its 3/3 and 4/3 at sss

ro rot 1 only needs 1 3red, 2nd needs 2?

[woven haven]

full double ult rotation is

Swap -> ult 1 -> basic -> 3red -> hold dodge -> basic -> 3x specred -> ult2
-> 3ping -> ult1 -> basic -> 3red -> basic -> 3red -> basic -> 3x specred -> ult2 -> swap off

total 10 orbs consumed with matrix counted

4 per swap in 6 from sig

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1222110283523297280.gif

[paper bone]

swap in geenrates a bullet

I thought u had to 3p anyways

[woven haven]

swap in skills usually are 3ping unless otherwise stated

[paper bone]

ig energy not an issue

[woven haven]

i.e. 21, non ss Wanshi, noan

[paper bone]

ah

[woven haven]

nanami swap in is also weird

[paper bone]

we can worry about that next fall

ig thats not that bad then

[echo current]

Btw what S do I need bianca for her to instantly do kid mid attacks

[paper bone]

I didnt he could store more than 1 blaze orb

[paper bone]

pretty sure lamp stack is sig?

sig balter

[vale raft]

Bianca: Stigmata

Hecate ★★★★★★

Deep Scar

CRIT DMG increases by 30%. Upon entering the Sword Form, immediately gains 20 stacks of Stigmata Will and activate the Resolution status.

ATK

471

CRIT

249

Swordstaff

[paper bone]

resolution status

[echo current]

Naww 😭

[paper bone]

basic balter

[vale raft]

Bianca: Stigmata

Skill - Basic Attack (Lv. 18)

Sword Dance
Trigger: Sword Form + Resolution active + Press and hold Basic Attack

After a successful dodge or the 4th hit of Basic Attack, Bianca: Stigmata will activate Resolution. When Resolution is active, press and hold Basic Attack to unleash a thrusting attack, then continue to press and hold Basic Attack to launch a 3-hit Sword Dance that deals Physical DMG to the target. During Sword Dance, Bianca: Stigmata is invincible, her position can be adjusted by moving the joystick.

• The thrusting attack deals 150.0% Physical DMG.
• Sword Dance deals a total of 660.0% Physical DMG.
• Every hit of Sword Dance generates 3 Signature Energy.

3/4

[paper bone]

yeah thats it

time to get r0

[rugged cloud]

[paper bone]

I mean below sss I think you do normals basics anyways

[charred patio]

build pyroath

[vale raft]

Lucia: Pyroath <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:fire_element:1290613867365273630><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

General DPS set for SS0-SS3 Pyroath
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Heraclitus
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[still moat]

shouldnt she do 5 BA first anyway before swordwave ?

[echo current]

Man i was hoping that instant mid air attack is on her node or smthn

[paper bone]

you dont every do instant sword waves bfor sss

[paper bone]

4th procs resolution iirc

yeah says so

[still moat]

yea so its redundant right ?

cause ur supposed to BA first before swordwave

[paper bone]

p much

at sss you start instant sword waves

[still moat]

cant relate

[paper bone]

unless you need the energy or smt for fast ult

[echo current]

Man im bricked

[paper bone]

some clears like that exist

[woven haven]

you do it until the move that creates a rift then hold

you don’t actually do a full 5 basics

more like swordwave at start of no 4

[still moat]

mmhm

[woven haven]

which still uses sig buff

cuz the actual swordwave state only comes after rift opens

with sig you cancel the move but still get swordwaves and rift for extra energy and dmg

[echo current]

So I just do 3 basic attacks and can instantly go aerial sword waves on the 4th? Am i understanding that right?

[hazy sandal]

After balter leap :
need to sweep balter keep moving with a joystick while suwuorwdwave state

Meanwhile some Players keep static position cuz they didn’t :read:

[pastel iron]

We takes 4 Patton instead of Charlotte for Bianca after Qu patch right?

[hazy sandal]

Depends

Search the usage.

There is an explanation on the spreadsheet

[pastel iron]

Okay

[hazy sandal]

For warzone then yes change into 4patton

[mighty tusk]

4 patton 4 cottie ss3

[river nymph]

is the lack of orb sort annoying?

[mighty tusk]

Orb sorting is annoying?

[quiet lily]

no charlotte no orb sorts, sadge

[hazy sandal]

If that was enough annoying thing why would we play pgr?

[river nymph]

good point

[hazy sandal]

We are dumbass afterall.

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

Imagine malding on a dedgaem

Wont even reach dmc collab because eos

[quiet lily]

dmc collab is the eos patch

[shadow holly]

welp still sig allows you to anim cancel the 4th attack

[finite cove]

Everyday is eos day in our heart

[echo current]

🧱

[quiet lily]

cute

[finite cove]

Fluffy stuff

[echo current]

Free food

[paper bone]

I remember watching some dude stream pgr back during alpha patch and all he was doign was fishing for blues and reds

humans do not evolve

[echo current]

Yes we do

We evolve backwards

[paper bone]

regression

[charred patio]

Dumb question but I can't find Cottie in TW server
Did they remove it?

[stray siren]

@still moat i think i got it, thanks man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgEHjCX1xF8

[paper bone]

is it still adolf

[still moat]

different icon im pretty sure

[paper bone]

mem adolf

[vale raft]

This memory does not exist. Please try again.

[paper bone]

lmao not in the bot

[woven haven]

its le german blond loli

[charred patio]

A..adolf?

[woven haven]

And yes it is that person

[charred patio]

[woven haven]

that’s why its censored in glb

[paper bone]

yeah so you know why it got changed for glb

[charred patio]

Jesus

[woven haven]

and changed to cottie

[paper bone]

her mem art is literally her shooting herself in the head

[paper bone]

yep that crying one

[hazy sandal]

Dolfe chan

[paper bone]

super accurate

besides the suicide part that idk

[woven haven]

seeing trueslash balter do 0 dmg during the entire first half of rot and then the spin suddenly ends 2 waves in one go

[paper bone]

does she do trueslash on ult

[woven haven]

off element hits hard

[paper bone]

or is it just new rot

[hazy sandal]

Yes, consuming -10 stack

[still moat]

u dont need to BA after every 3 red, its stackable so u do 3x 3 red and then BA

[paper bone]

wowz

yes bullets stack

thats why he can hold 3

[stray siren]

Ohh got it, i will tray again xd

[hazy sandal]

Should I explain trueslash with stack and heap dynamic memory

🤓

[woven haven]

only after doing spin, her ult stacks stop buffing phys ult and convert to buffing trueslash dmg

deducts up to 10 insight points to increase base dmg

[paper bone]

I think

[paper bone]

I'll only care abt affix stacking when its for ppc

cuz idk how it works and it looks ocmplicated

[woven haven]

you will care for wz

[hazy sandal]

Its really easy just read and get the feeling once

[paper bone]

wow chicken scratches

[woven haven]

its actually simple once you get used to it

[paper bone]

so theres 2 numbers

[hazy sandal]

And you’ll know that unless balter dies

There won’t be multiple mob warzone at all

-5-5 = -10

[woven haven]

bottom left is trueslash charges
core passives can expend the charge to deal additional 400% trueslash dmg

middle is insight points
when you use trueslash charges, you get insight points
balter ult2 in trueslash mode consumes up to 10 insight points to deal more dmg

To get trueslash charges, just ping orbs

you get points and when points > 100 you get a charge

basically
generate points
hanying and balter cores use the points to deal trueslash and generate insight

balter ult2 consumes a whole bunch of insight to increase ult dmg

[hazy sandal]

3ping + 1
xslash + 2
Needle poking -2

[woven haven]

needle poking?

[hazy sandal]

Hanying

[paper bone]

wow

[woven haven]

wait poke eats 2 charges?

isn’t it core -1 then basic -1

Then 3p +1

[paper bone]

I think

I'll just watch the spider2b video

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/aLbMEXnCUzs?si=tHb2wx8JuhSy5sMz

[paper bone]

but thanks

[woven haven]

he might not even cover that

[hazy sandal]

2:08

[woven haven]

just watch setsu vid there

[hazy sandal]

First poking motion -1

Pulling out the needle -1

-2

[paper bone]

oh

is orbs the only way to get charges

[paper bone]

also wdym >100

[hazy sandal]

Yes

[woven haven]

every 100 points converts to 1 charge

you can hold up to 9 charges at once

[paper bone]

thats a lot of orbs

[woven haven]

blue solacetune

[vale raft]

Hanying: Solacetune

Skill - Blue Orb (Lv. 18)

Shattered Spring Songs
Trigger: Ping Blue Orb

Summons a double to consecutively stab the target together, dealing Physical DMG. This skill grants Complex Time and Veiled Edge.

• Deals a total of 120.0% / 240.0% / 360.0% Physical DMG based on the number of orbs pinged.
• Gains 10 / 20 / 30 points of Complex Time based on the number of orbs pinged.
• Gains 5 / 10 / 50 points of Veiled Edge based on the number of orbs pinged.

1/1

[paper bone]

oh wow

[woven haven]

veiled edge is the points

[paper bone]

thats a lot of points

ig complex time is her ult gauge

[woven haven]

now ss0 hanying ult domain makes points generated by all allies +50%
ss3 change to +100%

[paper bone]

DAMN

[woven haven]

now u see how broken ss3 is

[paper bone]

ss0 unplayable

wait how does balter consume up to 10 points

if u can onyl hold 9

[woven haven]

base 3ping is 50 points, half a stack
ss0 hanying buffed 3ping is 75 points, 3/4th of a stack
ss3 hanying buffed 3ping is 100 points exactly one stack

[woven haven]

that’s insight points
different

[paper bone]

oh

[woven haven]

The bottom right number is the charges
charges are used by cores

when you use a charge you get 1 insight points up to 99

[paper bone]

oh wow

so thats why spin move makes middle points higher

its consuming charges into points

[raw swift]

Does anyone know what’s a good team for Luna Oblivion? Cuz I’m trying to have everything for her arrival!

[woven haven]

so balter generates charges in matrix, expends 5 charges and generates 5 insight on the spin, then ult eats 10 insight

[paper bone]

Watanabe + Kaleido

[hazy sandal]

Alya support, tank depends

[woven haven]

Next patch Watanabe Epitaph is her best teammate
he’s coming tmr/2 days

[hazy sandal]

It could be wanshi or wata

[woven haven]

Yes he’s a male
no he’s non negotiable

[hazy sandal]

Depending how you would make luna rot

[paper bone]

would you even use s+ garn over ss3 wata for void tho

[woven haven]

Watanabe Epitaph + Ayla Kaleido

[hazy sandal]

With how many 3ultimate rotations u would mix

[paper bone]

maybe after leap but theres no way

[woven haven]

its possible with sss or above garn but ehhhhh

[paper bone]

I dont thinkthunderfall does that much dmg

[woven haven]

i personally find it a little tedious

wata-luna team is luna doing 2 rots per swap
garn means luna is doing 3 or more

basically like balter + rosetta uptime

[paper bone]

basic weaving nice

how fun

[woven haven]

someone should commission an art

of wata and luna kissing while ayla stares

and then we post that when people ask for void team

[mighty tusk]

Plus send it to reddit

[paper bone]

What happened to feral or empy

I thought ayla couldnt proc 4guin

[mighty tusk]

Good candidates

[woven haven]

Kaleido qte best aoe/speed for eins hits

also voucherable to sss

[charred patio]

Gen2 units no longer need Da vinci right?

[woven haven]

hahahahahaha

[hazy sandal]

Depends

[mighty tusk]

Hahahaha

[raw swift]

Will lamia also work with Luna Oblivion?

[woven haven]

no dv is like in every team except dark rn

[hazy sandal]

You should specify the element

[woven haven]

nope completely incompatible

don’t try to mix waifu teams in pgr that’s just asking to get your ass handed to you

[charred patio]

I feel dumb However is it still gud early game?

[woven haven]

there is one set of meta team per element

[paper bone]

Just go muslim so u can have more than 1 waifu

[woven haven]

its good like almost everywhere

every team has one weakest member
they will be your dv holder

[raw swift]

Bet bet! Cuz I’m using Luna Laurel so I’m just you know trying to farm fast cuz I need to get watanbe and idk who else

[paper bone]

[woven haven]

Luna Oblivion is not Dark

she is a Void Annihilator

Laurel is dead anyways

[charred patio]

So uhh, most of them use DV on top right?

[finite cove]

Wrong ping sorry

[woven haven]

dv usually bottom mem

[finite cove]

Hello how can I get unlimited BC works 2.0

[charred patio]

Thanks

[paper bone]

Surely pgr gets fate collab like hsr

[finite cove]

🔥

[raw swift]

Dang so I pulled for lamia for now reason!

[paper bone]

I mean if u dont have lamia ur dark is cooked

[dapper skiff]

Frequently Asked Question(FAQ)s about Watanabe: Epitaph

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• What is Epitaph?

Watanabe: Epitaph is the new playable frame for uncle Watanabe in the game that's debuting in AEON REFORGED update, featuring S rank Tank that deals massive fire damage and focused dmg in burst form.

• How strong is Epitaph?

He has high dps output as a tank and high Resistance Reduction value to fire element with large AoE off-field shred. Compared with the previous existing fire tank in the game, Epitaph is a major upgrade in terms of overall damage and also utilities as in Tank role in the team.

• Should I pull him?

Yes, as the damage gap between the previous unit is really noticeable and considering he's a fire tank that would be necessary for any future fire team composition, it's highly recommended to get him.

• Which banner should I pull for him?

Always pull character on Themed Event Construct in their debut, offers you low pity drop and 100% guarantee drop rate on pity.

• Should I get his dupes?

For f2p players getting his dupe wouldn't be a priority as you can get a total of 30 shards of Epitaph from Pain Cage shop for free once you own him which is enough for SS rank. If you're a spender Epitaph dupes is really advisable because of how strong he is and how he affects future team composition.

• What is the good stopping point for his ranks up?

Almost all of his rank upgrades provide him a major increase to his performance, but SSS Rank is a good stopping point for Epitaph.

• Does he needs his 6★ signature weapon?

Yes, Epitaph signature weapon provides him dmg boost and major orb qol bonus, giving him more red orb per ultimate cast. Sig weapon also provides the needed orbs for multiple signature move cast in one rotation.

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• Should I pull for his weapon?

If you're a spender it is highly recommended to pull it. For f2p players you can consider his signature weapon IF ONLY you have spares from proper currency plannings without risking future savings, if you're uncertain with your currency, skipping is advised.

• is he playable with using only 5★ weapon?

With only 5★ weapon he still can do his rotation properly but it you will it find him having major orb deficiency for multiple signature cast per rotation, holding his optimal potential by almost a half.

• Should I get him a weapon resonance skill?

Epitaph doesn't necessarily needs a specific weapon resonance skill to work properly and already playable with 0 weapon resonance. But, giving him weapon resonance will give you a big value both in fire team and long term benefits.

• What should I pick for his weapon resonance skill?

You can pick Diode Torch for the 1st resonance skill, you can swap to Deadline Timing eventually in Luna Oblivion team in the future when Wata works as Void sub DPS.

• Should I get Harmony upgrade for his weapon?

Yes, It's worth it

• What is the best Harmony set for his weapon?

It will be depends on the set you're using for Epitaph.

• Should I pull his cub?

If you're a f2p player, it is not recommended unless you have a clear and certain plannings with your f2p Black Cards that doesn't risk future character saving. For spenders it's pretty much given if you bought the 1st Paid Battle Pass with cub tickets.

• Which skill should I use for his cub?

Recommended to use Active skill 1 (left) for the cub Active skill, use Blazing Chain and Propelled Incineration for the passive skill, if you have SS rank bat you can also use Output Synchronization for the 3rd passive skill.

• What is the best memory set for him?

As for the main dps set, Epitaph use 4pc Alphons and 2pc Cottie.

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• What is the best memory placement for her set?

Alphons pieces at the bottom memory slots (all 04 05 and 06 slot) and Cottie piece on the rest of the top memory slots.

• What is the best memory resonance skill for his set?

The best memory resonance skill for Epitaph is 6x Red orb for top resonance slot and 6x Signature Move for the bottom resonance slot.

• is it worth to hypertune his set?

Yes.

• What is the optimal orb colour for his Infinitas awakening?

Considering his Ult mode automatically converts all signal orb to red, it barely matters. But, in some niche cases he can use Blue orb.

• What is the best team composition for him?

Lee: Hyperreal as Sub DPS and Liv: Empyrea as support is the best teammate for Epitaph team specifically for swapping composition. In ppc it may varies depends on the investment and bosses.

• What is the budget alternative for Epitaph team composition?

For the budget team you can start with Nanami: Pulse that's given from the starter free selector as secondary debuffer and Liv: Lux as support for Davinci holder or an easy access to 4pc Guinevere in the team. Any Amplifier with weapon resonance skill available also works as alternative support in the team for warzone cases.

• Should I pull for his optimal teammates?

Depends on your spender tier and also your current account condition whether you would have the other better units to pull first. But in general for f2p it is highly recommended to not bother back pulling his teammate, not considering yet you may or may not still be lacking on other teams.

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• How to play Watanabe in fire team?

Depends on your investment, Epitaph can be used either in solo DPS play without swapping between teammates or swap rotation to maximize the dmg output he can do for each rotation. It is good to mention that in order to make the swap rotation worth doing is that you have to own a viable sub DPS for fire team to be swapped into after Epitaph done with rotation and comes to downtime, in this case you want to have a minimum of S rank Hyperreal with 6★ signature weapon to make swapping worth. Without hyperreal solo dps Epitaph may or may not be better for longer fights like Warzone.

• How do i play fire rotation with Epitaph, Hyperreal and Empyrea team?

Epitaph rotation has different variations between SS3+lower and SSS rank+higher. Good to mention Hyperreal and Empyrea ranks doesn't have a major difference in rotation so it's pretty much almost the same rotation for all rank. For SS0/SS3 rotation, the rotation is pretty simple with double ultimate rotation that ends with 2nd ult2 before swapping into Hyperreal. For reference you can watch the video below for demonstration:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1302190087207129089/SS0_Fire_Rotation.mp4?ex=67273686&is=6725e506&hm=36d683900becdf39e31ef1d461be48848f3aee715ed185598c359738fe4236ac&

for SSS and Higher ranks Epitaph, his rotation is more complicated and requires heavy inputs due to his SSS rank passive decreases cooldown swap between all teammates, this means shorter rotation between characters and in order to benefit this to the most, you have to be fast.
For a reference, you can watch an example rotation of SSS rank Watanabe along with Hyper and Empyrea with the same rank.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663286717985456157/1303182823095795742/SSS_Fire_Rotation.mp4?ex=672ad314&is=67298194&hm=dbd9799c8f6f480cab2bdb53ee9f04b78878c5e5f6b3c8ab4a21b92e1996d0f3&

[paper bone]

Bro its okay

jambu will come collect his ss

[dapper skiff]

Excuse me kind sir

[paper bone]

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

Chill broda

[paper bone]

Sry just got out of a league game

[dapper skiff]

It's your patchly behavior of wall of texts

[stiff elm]

mah pillow