📨・meta-help

[wicked imp]

How do I, a f2p, achieve that power

[pine slate]

Whels

[ashen edge]

LMAO

[pine slate]

Swipe ofc

[vague nebula]

How many black cards does it take to double SSS+ an S rank, i heard Ishmael (aka alien god ) is coming to pgr. I want to go all out. I'm prepared to skip everyone before her her including alpha's OG coating

[jaunty beacon]

What a joke

[wicked imp]

😭👍

[vague nebula]

[ashen edge]

double ult as usual?

[jaunty beacon]

Well. With either memo rework or garn 3s 8 would be able to get it

[raw swift]

brick ultra pro max

[ashen edge]

now that's interesting

[jaunty beacon]

Tidal on 2nd rota

[vague nebula]

[ashen edge]

o

[quartz dove]

Hi

[ashen edge]

i see

[wicked imp]

Hi?

[river nymph]

[jaunty beacon]

I don't have enough dmg for the double ult without. But it's nearly impossible to 100% it

[vague nebula]

by not being f2p

[ashen edge]

now you mentioned that so i think i have to plan my ap again

[jaunty beacon]

Lamia and her freaking hp loss

[wicked imp]

Ofc

This is a gacha game after all

[visual topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890425258828529735/912553423625396234/yt5s.com-99200.mp4?ex=6719c69a&is=6718751a&hm=9fcbe2af93120f29c3569982de659cdb87f903283d452bdd72db368365c803e6&

[wicked imp]

[quartz dove]

U can keep the mindset tho

[jaunty beacon]

I tried for the meme. But somehow it's better than my lightning

[wicked imp]

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT

[ashen edge]

1 sec faster

[jaunty beacon]

Yuan ye button

[visual topaz]

ye

patch 1 yuan ye

[jaunty beacon]

Yes

[ashen edge]

only count yellow and red

blue ripbozo

[pine slate]

Hax

[quartz dove]

Good old day of gatekeep adv

[pine slate]

K whel

[ashen edge]

[vague nebula]

[quartz dove]

At least its f2p frenly

Rite

[visual topaz]

actually from watching the inputs

they're correct for 3S Ploom

[vague nebula]

bery f2p frenly
just f2p means forced 2 pay

[raw swift]

free 2 pay

[vague nebula]

that too

[quartz dove]

This is why hoyo win

[vague nebula]

[shadow holly]

lies and deception

[quartz dove]

F2p acheron destroy content
F2p alpha coping with tifa

[distant wren]

for fake dodge the moment u hold dodge after press, u need to do the 3p almost simultaneously right?

kinda like color bug?

[pine slate]

Nah

[warm kestrel]

wtf

[pine slate]

A little after hold dodge I think

[stone gulch]

e2s1 very f2p

[distant wren]

but is it a very short delay?

like a split second?

[pine slate]

Idk how to explain timing

It just happens

Ask @shadow holly he can do it consistently

[quartz dove]

I saw video of moc (idk wtf is this) e0s1 3 star

[shadow holly]

p much immediately
like sp delay
or color bug
same kinda input

[woven haven]

you mean f2p acheron with 2 males as her bis supports, soon to be 3

testosterone team

[quartz dove]

There is 2 male true and swan

[distant wren]

aight i'll practice a bit
but so far kinda hard to get down
cause there's 3 inputs instead of 2

[quartz dove]

But still my point stand

[woven haven]

3 male
sunday jq aventurine

[quartz dove]

F2p acheron destory content

[pine slate]

No national on hsr

[quartz dove]

How the hell

Ss0 r1 low invest

[pine slate]

[shadow holly]

[quartz dove]

FINALLY

[pine slate]

Where my ss0 low invest national team clear for Otto on moc f12

[quartz dove]

Real f2p invest
https://youtu.be/QGGLqkpmrIk?si=8OGLZXjlLnK9Bg1K

[pine slate]

[quiet lily]

goated

[quartz dove]

Still weaker than acheron moc

[pine slate]

Cw solo op

[ripe stag]

Guys

Should I buy 2 ?

[tulip vector]

go ahead

[quartz dove]

Go ahead

[ripe stag]

Will I have enough by the time it resets

That's the question

[carmine mesa]

If you mostly retain Hero, you should be OK.

[ripe stag]

I'm demoting this time

Too whale of a bracket

The dude on #6 has 5.2m score

[carmine mesa]

Demoting once a week is not a bug issue.

[ripe stag]

Such a disgrace

[quiet lily]

skill issue then

[carmine mesa]

I feel ya, less extreme for me, but I'm facing 3.8-4.2 3S feesh and hobo havers

[ripe stag]

I got 3.7M

[quartz dove]

Retain hero is free

[ripe stag]

Help

[quiet lily]

do better

[ripe stag]

I have

• 7 SSS CW havers
• 2 of them are all SSS accounts
• 1 dude has S+ Lamia

[distant wren]

lmao rip

[ripe stag]

The difference between #6 and #7 is insanely big

[distant wren]

i got pretty lucky bracket this time

[ripe stag]

#6 - 5.2m
#7 (me) - 3.7m

[carmine mesa]

You have a whale pod in your bracket

[restive grove]

shouldnt enter wz after reset

[ripe stag]

I joined 1 day after

[carmine mesa]

What changes if you join after reset?

[restive grove]

2nd day is gucci

[shadow holly]

how 3s havers getting SS scores

[ripe stag]

• Lots of open brackets
• you have high chance of getting whales in bracket
• whales normally start just after reset

[restive grove]

^

[ripe stag]

Just remember

[distant wren]

i imagine 3s teams should have at least 5m without trying

[ripe stag]

Once you join warzone and see that you are the only one in the bracket
You have a 50/50 chance to getting hard/easy bracket
Especially if it's after reset

[carmine mesa]

Any wz rota with light is infested with 3S hobo havers

[shadow holly]

yea

[ripe stag]

I have defeated a lot of them

Most of them don't even know how to use CW

Or use Lux + Arclight

Or hell
Just solo yolo

[restive grove]

weather issue smh

[ripe stag]

I have got higher score than 1 SSS CW haver this time
He has no one else

[distant wren]

my ss teams (with ss3 scire swap team) pre-malding got 4.3m(?) or smth

[ripe stag]

He was using base rank Lux and SS Arc
Not my fault

[carmine mesa]

Well, I have severe skill issue and no Garnet, my runs tend to end on wave 15.

[shadow holly]

btw what score/wave is lightning on sea
like whatever your run is ig

[restive grove]

actual f2b

[distant wren]

i play cw solo (better than my swap) and clutched just right to w21, 2.2m I think

[shadow holly]

[restive grove]

[distant wren]

weather is toxic as hell

[dapper skiff]

Time to learn bracket sniping

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1237782105769902254.gif

[distant wren]

swap I got to w20 exactly once and could never replicate it again

[shadow holly]

eu I got to w19 and it's 2.3m

[dapper skiff]

One Mald and easy retain

[carmine mesa]

Man alive, any recording of your runs?

[shadow holly]

I forgor
but I also got SS3 feral now so idt it's very replicable for u

[restive grove]

lmao i got a s+ player on last place

i wouldnt mind getting 5th place :clueless:

[shadow holly]

I'll try to make a run to record in some time but it's also orb rng due to weather so idk if it'll happen

[carmine mesa]

I have SS3r1 Feral, SSr1 CW, 3S Arclight...

[shadow holly]

oh Arclight is very sad

[restive grove]

6th* :aware:

[carmine mesa]

Yeah, Qu patch is stacked for me, Vouchers for Garnet, and her SIG+r1 from whel rewards refresh

[ashen edge]

lowest dark in leaderboard

[shadow holly]

[restive grove]

ok fake ss player

[visual topaz]

[ashen edge]

what is that

can i eat it

[restive grove]

[shadow holly]

how do u eat urself

[distant wren]

does insta excalibur need dlt?

[shadow holly]

no
unless u do insta at SS0

the glorious 24 stack ult

[distant wren]

ss3 so definitely not that crazy lol

[jaunty beacon]

Learn the basic mechanics
Doing bug tech

[visual topaz]

[shadow holly]

I learned doubleshit last week
it's actually kinda fun to do...if you don't need to be frame perfect

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[keen sable]

so i get cottie for stigmata for harmonization

[ashen edge]

how about become new chef

[shadow holly]

[unkempt grotto]

God I love luna

[jaunty beacon]

I'm not even doing helikopter nor paint dupe. That's how much i care about it

[restive grove]

[shadow holly]

I can pull an azerys and cook ss10 Wata runs

[stuck sphinx]

los

[shadow holly]

[jaunty beacon]

Ss invest btw

[ashen edge]

ok bozo

do et

[shadow holly]

maybe I pull fate for Wata and brick

[pine slate]

Spoken like a bald man

Tell me ur bald without telling me ur bald

[jaunty beacon]

Doctor eggsman

[shadow holly]

at least I got a spot on the sss sheet now

[pine slate]

Too whel

[prisma glade]

If I play Crimson abyss instead of Stigmata, you guys think its still worth it running da vinci on Alisa? or is there a better pick?

[pine slate]

Still signa dv

Her set doesn't change

[stuck sphinx]

Alisa dps dv ca

[mighty tusk]

[prisma glade]

also harmonize da vinci too for the 4pc bonus?

[visual topaz]

i hate cw

[ripe stag]

Yo guys

[woven haven]

what the hell is this v2

[ashen edge]

yes

[woven haven]

pack it up guys game's over

[ashen edge]

out?

[woven haven]

they're reworking void wz somehow

[visual topaz]

300% shield?

[ashen edge]

ok im waiting ur wh*re Tls achan

[ripe stag]

Wata's Scorching Invasion's duration varies ?

[ashen edge]

[visual topaz]

nerf all shredder back to 20% except mommy?

[turbid bridge]

Void shield enemies appear every wave in v2

[ripe stag]

Like according to GR

• his ult 1 inflicts Scorching Invasion for 10 seconds
• everything else inflicts for 8 seconds

[turbid bridge]

[ripe stag]

@woven haven help I'm confused

[ashen edge]

what

wait what line in the notice can u ss it

[woven haven]

i'll pass u link

[deft apex]

Seems like it

[pine slate]

So they're forcing Ishmael into void

[ripe stag]

Ofc they need to

Ok so

[pine slate]

Well ye

[ripe stag]

V2 is out ?

[deft apex]

Yea

[woven haven]

ishmael can now shred/buff void

[ripe stag]

What are the changes ?

[woven haven]

[ashen edge]

ok now she can shred buff void

but what are they cooking the rest

[ripe stag]

Wasn't that already in her class ?
Wait
By shred/buff you mean both at the same time ?

Oh wait nvm

I read it wrong

[ripe stag]

Yea
Any more changes ?

Like did they finally changed her qte 1 tick ?

[turbid bridge]

Or they can mean no Void shield enemies anymore

[ripe stag]

That's impossible

Like disorder is legit the thing for void

[turbid bridge]

Yea 2 tick now

[livid lark]

ok good so she's not garbo

[ripe stag]

Really ? Or this another fake

[quiet lily]

shes usable now huh

[ripe stag]

"She can finally replace Feral from Lightning team"

[livid lark]

lol no

[ripe stag]

I quoted it

For a reason

[livid lark]

she's a sidegrade at best still

[ripe stag]

Take the hint

[livid lark]

[ashen edge]

ye

slightly nerf core dmg and energy gain

due to blue orb now give more energy?

[ripe stag]

"You don't swap to feral, she's qte bot, Ishmael's class will allow her to be the qte support anyways so feral brick"

[turbid bridge]

The Void affix changed from “every 3rd wave enemies will spawn with Void shield” to “Void damage increased”

[ashen edge]

i hope i read it correct @turbid bridge

[turbid bridge]

I think they’re removing Void shield

[ashen edge]

[livid lark]

[ripe stag]

What
So disorder will be in affix stage now huh

[livid lark]

i dunno if thats a good thing

[turbid bridge]

Need CN players to figure out new rotation first

[ripe stag]

I mean they'll treat Void shield as an affix gimmick

So yea

[ashen edge]

slight buff to ult energy require

[livid lark]

ok so next question
can she hold dv?

[ashen edge]

ult 2 from 120 to 90
ult 1 from 45 to 30
all is base

[ripe stag]

Any rank change ?

[turbid bridge]

Real

[ashen edge]

not yet im still reading her core

[quiet lily]

not bad

[turbid bridge]

Sig mem no changes from what I saw

[ripe stag]

Ew

[ashen edge]

and ult

[ripe stag]

That's the one thing I expected them to change

[livid lark]

womp womp

[ashen edge]

ye qte now 2 ticks and qte timer reduce from 2.5s to 1.5s

that's super fast qte

good change ig?

[ripe stag]

This completely shatters the hopes of feral skippers to say "FERAL BRICK"

[ashen edge]

you can spam her qte more frequently

[livid lark]

ok at least it's a partial improvement

[ripe stag]

Thank god
It actually means she balanced

And not some overpowered Omni-elemental amp

[livid lark]

still wishing for her to be able to hold dv tho

then it would be perfect

[ripe stag]

Capri 4 dv 4 sera strat

[livid lark]

well ish is alr better than capri now

or kaleido for that matter

[turbid bridge]

Very, nobody wants another capri

[deft apex]

[ripe stag]

Well

[ashen edge]

art changes

[cerulean grotto]

Send

[ripe stag]

I think she'll be more or less Sub-DPS amp like how Empy was with Hyperreal

[deft apex]

Screenshot please

[ashen edge]

ye definitely better looking

[cerulean grotto]

NOOO

[turbid bridge]

[deft apex]

EYES CHANGE LETS GO

[ripe stag]

WAIT
FINALLY

[distant wren]

so they changed the eyes

[cerulean grotto]

SMUGNESS WHERE

[ripe stag]

[cerulean grotto]

😭😭

[ripe stag]

THE SMUG OJOU-SAMA VIBE IS GONE

[deft apex]

ALSO HAIR STYLE CHANGE LETS GOOO

[ripe stag]

It's more Ishmael like now

[deft apex]

Less pronounced yellow hair tips

[ripe stag]

Finally

[deft apex]

Good changes frfr

[ripe stag]

Teddy's mom is gone

[deft apex]

We won

[restive grove]

WHITE EYES #1 RAHHHHH 🗣️

[ripe stag]

Lmao

[ripe stag]

Wait
Why she looks like she has Daren level chest

[cerulean grotto]

Love the hairstyle NGL looks way better now

[turbid bridge]

Just sig energy changes but they removed yellow orb damage boost from SSS for some reason

[ashen edge]

lemme write the another one

[cerulean grotto]

Cosmic energy will buff booba mid battle

[ripe stag]

But finally

[quick plinth]

Holy sht we won

[shadow holly]

[deft apex]

Thats what i said

[ripe stag]

Her face was squished as well now that I see it

Went from Smug mom of Teddy

[livid lark]

he felt the roasting come his way

[deft apex]

Her head was wide and squished

[ripe stag]

To holy moly Mommy of PGR Jesus

[livid lark]

2nd one is def better

[ashen edge]

ss ult 1 energy required redcued from 21 to 12
ss3: no change
sss: removed yellow dmg boost. New effect added, gain 3 ult energy everytime she does core attack spamming dodge in ult 2 form

@turbid bridge @woven haven is this correct for rank changed

[deft apex]

Is the 3d model changed to?

[ashen edge]

[woven haven]

i'm too busy to check the stuff atm

[ripe stag]

She looked like those Smug and Arrogant Ojou-samas from those low production cost Isekai animes no one watch cuz they are so trash

[livid lark]

konosuba?

[turbid bridge]

SS is ult 1 energy

[ripe stag]

Nah

[ashen edge]

correct whenever u free

[ripe stag]

Isekai Smartphone

[wraith pendant]

where to get this forever racer

[ripe stag]

Done

Gone

[cerulean grotto]

Bro spoke about ancient anime

[ripe stag]

You missed

[wraith pendant]

nah wtf

[livid lark]

womp womp

[wraith pendant]

i done fvkd

[livid lark]

should have checked the events

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/toyua-anime-gif-10668941

[restive grove]

dw, i also missed dead master overspeed

on my NA acc

[zenith thorn]

i mean it doesn't matter to u anyway since you s+

[wraith pendant]

how many bc or orange tickets was in that game mode, so i could feel bad or not bad

[ashen edge]

CUB buff from 15% atk to 40%atk

[livid lark]

i think like 400

[ripe stag]

A good enough amount

[ripe stag]

WOAH

[livid lark]

or was it double

[ripe stag]

WHAT THE HELL

[restive grove]

wth, im beri fri2plae

[cerulean grotto]

750 or 1k

[livid lark]

lmao

[shadow holly]

at least it's better than qu cub now

[ripe stag]

It was 1k

[ripe stag]

What's her cub anyways? Chibi Lee Hyperreal?

[shadow holly]

idfk lol

[deft apex]

Octahedron

[restive grove]

a god

[deft apex]

[ashen edge]

intro outro selection disabled in test sv

[ripe stag]

The core she has in her boss form ?

[ashen edge]

[ripe stag]

LMAAAAAAAAAAO

THE HOPES

[restive grove]

i quit

[ripe stag]

Are gone

[deft apex]

"Sorry guys you werent supposed to get that"

[ashen edge]

[ripe stag]

They added PGR 2's feature to PGR by mistake

[cerulean grotto]

I honestly don't mind lmao

Wasn't really anything big anyways

[visual topaz]

500 and 1000 trade vouchers

you missed the Lucia and Alpha stickers tho

[visual topaz]

wtf mommy

[hazy sandal]

She must have been to plastic surgery at my homeland

[visual topaz]

[ashen edge]

kimchi land OP

[livid lark]

looks a lot more adult like

[quiet lily]

[zenith thorn]

korea truly

[hazy sandal]

Or is that cataract symptom…?

[livid lark]

korean drama celeb now

[quiet lily]

Chagiya

[hazy sandal]

[livid lark]

[hazy sandal]

Lasik

[deft apex]

Her chest thing also got slightly smaller

[turbid bridge]

SSS says removed yellow orb damage boost but gives 3 sig energy everytime she does the core attack spamming dodge button, in ult 2 form

@ashen edge

[livid lark]

her chest appears to be a bit bigger tho

[river nymph]

[hazy sandal]

Who is right

[river nymph]

bro is getting the tape measure out

[ashen edge]

i shortened it to more energy gen

[distant wren]

holy observation

[cerulean grotto]

Last round of coop

[livid lark]

important things require careful observation

[visual topaz]

he counted the pixels before and after

[cerulean grotto]

This sht is so ass

[turbid bridge]

Yea it’s part of her rotation anyway so it’s fine

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

for scientific purposes

[woven haven]

yep they removed void shield from void wz

[turbid bridge]

Seems like not much damage increase but definitely can rotate well

[turbid bridge]

[zenith thorn]

ah hell naw he getting his d out

[dreamy pelican]

@mighty tusk hola

[feral pollen]

WOT

void unit useless now?

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/moistcritikal-moist-critical-ops-critikal-legos-gif-24033648

[zenith thorn]

lmfao

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

its now back to the same off element punishing

[mighty tusk]

[dreamy pelican]

dont pull for luna and ishmael now. its brick

[woven haven]

as regular WZ

[ashen edge]

ye literally removed void shield

[mighty tusk]

back to normal it seems

[dreamy pelican]

got lucky and managed to get cetus

but i haven't ss it yet so ehhhh?

[ashen edge]

to increase void dmg every 3 wave

CUB buff is still whatever

[turbid bridge]

Remove the “every 3 wave”

[inland crater]

I'm struggling with the hive mother on the license upgrade exam rn, dk when to parry

[turbid bridge]

[dreamy pelican]

so in reality nothing changed

[ashen edge]

oh wait not every 3 wave

[woven haven]

no just increase void dmg perma like other wzs

[cerulean grotto]

Gitgud

[dreamy pelican]

i dont think im gonna make it out of this bracket

my lightning score is literally just 1 mil

[feral pollen]

bro

void just lost its identity

[inland crater]

When to parry

[cerulean grotto]

Watch video

Or practice in celica class

[inland crater]

There was one in Celica class?

[dreamy pelican]

would it be brick if i dont pull for wata cub

or is it brick

i kinda want cw's motor

[rugged cloud]

would

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

literally just trial and error

[mighty tusk]

do you want to use lightning in the future?

[feral pollen]

so what happens now to luna's and ishmommy's bonus to shieldbreak on SSS?

[zenith thorn]

the parey is horrendously lenient timing

[dreamy pelican]

yes.

[inland crater]

When the claw thingy glows red?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[quartz dove]

Is that v2 screenshot legit

[ashen edge]

still use in ppc

[dreamy pelican]

im tired of coping and i have 1.5k cub tix

[quartz dove]

[ashen edge]

yes its out now

[zenith thorn]

just

wait for uncle cub?

[ashen edge]

[quartz dove]

Then u should obtain ur human right

Is the model changes slightly too ?

[inland crater]

Mkay

[quartz dove]

And whats her kit change ?

[dreamy pelican]

thats what im asking

should i invest more into wata cub or go for cw cub? my lightning team sucks mega with no sig and cw solo ;-;

[mighty tusk]

not worth investing in lightning in the future

[distant wren]

wata for sure

[zenith thorn]

lightning is going to die anyway
just go fire

[dreamy pelican]

more cope it is

[zenith thorn]

ir a bit too late to back pull for cw cub

[inland crater]

[woven haven]

4guin works now

[turbid bridge]

Mostly sig energy changes so her rotation might change, super armour for her reds, slight damage changes, 2 tick heals (can proc 4 Guin), off-field shred

[woven haven]

she will shred/buff void regardless of typing

still no eins carry

[quartz dove]

Finally a working unit

[turbid bridge]

She can shred other ele now I think?

[woven haven]

but she can hold 4dv4guin now

[river nymph]

after the next two patches light will be the worst team until nana

[woven haven]

she will shred the chosen type + void

[quartz dove]

Good god only took them a week

[zenith thorn]

ok but

is she better than cappy by how much margin

[river nymph]

if she can hold 4guin she is miles better than crap

[quartz dove]

Is she good at ss0 now ?

[woven haven]

should be

[turbid bridge]

Ah okay

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

but uh

[rugged cloud]

[woven haven]

pretty sure she's still going to be worse than other amps at same rank cuz eins

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

only in a 4guin situation is she equal

when the amp is on 4dv4guin

[quartz dove]

B4stard kuro

[woven haven]

which would mean she's a PPC AP copy i guess

[turbid bridge]

Bye Capri

[quartz dove]

U can put eins on karen now for dark ppc.

[mighty tusk]

so capri is mostly benched now?

[rugged cloud]

[zenith thorn]

is there leaderboard for exppc in cn or nah?

[woven haven]

there is but there's no use

[zenith thorn]

just for fun lb
i frogot

eh good enough

[woven haven]

oh actually this does remind me ishmael is still worse cuz she can't support tank dps unless u run an attacker in third slot

[digital moat]

[woven haven]

if you run 2 amp or 2 tank or 1 amp 1 tank ishmael disables her buffs

[deft apex]

Still scuffed no way

[jaunty beacon]

[feral pollen]

[quartz dove]

Wtf is this p2w thing

[river nymph]

pgr with news channel now

[spiral merlin]

Oh right that

[river nymph]

[grand jay]

Alright

You don't want to run tanks in Void anymore

Ishmael tank or bust

[river nymph]

really

[grand jay]

Yep

You can't clear later waves with off ele tanks

[river nymph]

[grand jay]

You need Ishmael now lmao

[ripe stag]

So

[river nymph]

what did they change

[ripe stag]

Offelement amp + tankmael

[raw swift]

[grand jay]

So no more shield waves

[quartz dove]

OFC THEY FORCE HER IN

[deft apex]

Uhhh

[quartz dove]

[grand jay]

BUT as the waves progress Void dmg against enemies is increased

[deft apex]

That's cringe

[river nymph]

[raw swift]

[grand jay]

So off ele tanks CAN'T clear waves later on

[raw swift]

buying it

[ripe stag]

Oh so that's how they killed offelement tank Sub-DPS

[grand jay]

Yeah

[shadow mica]

So what you're saying is.... Luna solo op

[grand jay]

Doesn't work

[quartz dove]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-meme-windows-98-blade-runner-2049-running-out-gif-9631165122054034342

[jaunty beacon]

Just stay in vanguard 🧠

[ripe stag]

Ishmael tank Sub-DPS

[river nymph]

[grand jay]

She needs orbs and you need someone to fill the downtime

Ishmael tank it is

[quartz dove]

So if i skip ishmael i brick

[mighty tusk]

is she orb efficient or self sustain?

[ripe stag]

Tankmael

[grand jay]

Yeah she's mostly spamming dodge

[turbid bridge]

After her sig energy changes yes

[ripe stag]

She went from Ampmael to Tankmael

[raw swift]

pretty much

[river nymph]

ok can they make ishy actually do dmg tho

[turbid bridge]

Multiple rot now

[ripe stag]

"Dodge this MF"

[grand jay]

She did more damage from before

[ripe stag]

[grand jay]

Even as amp

[jaunty beacon]

So we changed the stone on our eevee

[mighty tusk]

now let's see the new changes for v2 in wz scores

[river nymph]

[turbid bridge]

For sub DPS yea

[raw swift]

[wicked imp]

I want Ishmael to step on me

[raw swift]

Based

[ripe stag]

Yes

[grand jay]

But the new WZ passive is gonna make Tankmael mandatory anyways

[woven haven]

no its just normal off element

its just "void dmg increased"

[ripe stag]

Isn't it a nice way to disguise between which Ishmael we talking about

[mighty tusk]

amps are gonna take the L again as they deal the least dmg in a team

[woven haven]

which means void dmg 1.3x
all other dmg 0.3x

[ripe stag]

It founds funny though

[woven haven]

there's no difference between void and other wzs now

its just a matter of doing more dmg with correct element

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

only mixed zones are unique now?

[grand jay]

I think Aether put it better than I could

[ripe stag]

So they are treating void as "void element" and not an affix warzone
And now we'll have a separate Disorder warzone I guess ?

[grand jay]

Void is now your avg element

[ripe stag]

I see

[woven haven]

only affix zones

[woven haven]

that part is your speculation

[grand jay]

But it's probably a little cheaper since there's only 2 characters you need

[mighty tusk]

well, it's about time to actually treat void as just another element

[jaunty beacon]

My mom told me I'm unique too

[grand jay]

And you can throw in Ayla

[ripe stag]

Sorry i forgot to add the I guess

[wicked imp]

"You are my special"

[ripe stag]

Cheaper but near impossible for F2Ps unless Ishmael is free

[jaunty beacon]

[feral pollen]

so wata usefulness in void expires when ishamel drops

[grand jay]

Yes

[mighty tusk]

and wanshi

[ripe stag]

Your mom was singing "You Are My Special" bruh

[wicked imp]

So... How much am I gonna have to save up for Ishmael?

[grand jay]

I'm gonna check Void PPC

[ripe stag]

Need 15k if she's not free

[mighty tusk]

can you compare v1 scores to v2 then?

[pine slate]

Yup, wata is a skip then

[ripe stag]

Yep

[wicked imp]

Wait... Isn't that standard?

[pine slate]

Fire tank nanami + void tank Ishmael

[ripe stag]

Yes

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

Super PPC still has void shield

[ripe stag]

Exactly

[raw swift]

If ur pulling for Nanami, and Ishmael that's 30k in total

[river nymph]

ez skip then

[raw swift]

15k back to back

[ripe stag]

No Nanami no lightning lol

[woven haven]

new DARK SUPER PPC STAGE added

[raw swift]

true

[ripe stag]

WITHOUT free patch

[raw swift]

thanks

[pine slate]

My question is, why doesn't she work as a void amp

[mighty tusk]

modifier changed for the better?

[pine slate]

Does she deals more dmg as a tank or what

[mighty tusk]

iirc, previous dark super ppc is balls

[ripe stag]

I mean
Damage I guess ?

[pine slate]

She has a different kit/multipliers based on her role?

[ripe stag]

Should not be

[shadow mica]

and patch after is probably going to be another S rank as it will be CN anni no?

[grand jay]

Yeah Super PPC still has Void shield

[river nymph]

does tank ish need cottie or shred mems

[grand jay]

Luna + Gen 3 tank is still valid

[turbid bridge]

Ishmael is on anni patch

[grand jay]

Iirc she gets extra energy at SSS

[raw swift]

Ishmael is the anni patch

[grand jay]

So depends on rank

[turbid bridge]

She’s fine without Cottie now

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

So Luna Wanshi Ishmael
Or
Luna Kaleido/Feral Ishmael ?

Both works right ?

[river nymph]

does anyone have pics of her memory art

[shadow mica]

But Ish will release start of Nov? Anni is end of Dec. How long do beta's last? lol

[grand jay]

Yeah for PPC

WZ Tankmael is mandatory

[ripe stag]

UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
Time to slap that 4 shakes

[pine slate]

Let's say I have a 3s tank and 3s amp to pair with Luna

[ripe stag]

[pine slate]

Is ss0 ishmael replacing amp or tank

[ripe stag]

Wait

4 Fred tankmael ?

[quartz dove]

Bro dark is horshit its pointless to add that

[grand jay]

Same passives as your avg amp and tank so tank

[woven haven]

tank

[ripe stag]

She's Copium option for missing amp or tank

[grand jay]

SSS she replaces SSS Selena since she has 2 tick

[woven haven]

ok point is that the tank cannot carry guin

[turbid bridge]

Nanaknight patch ends 7 Nov, CN patches last around 40 days and their anni is 5th Dec

[quartz dove]

No darkbuff tho ?

[raw swift]

[mighty tusk]

so needs similar invest then to match capri

[woven haven]

so ishmael is going on the tank slot instead

[deft apex]

Anni is start of december

[grand jay]

More or less

[ripe stag]

Her class let's her buff any element which isn't physical

Or shred

[mighty tusk]

paid unit too so.....

[woven haven]

yeah still paid sss unit to replace free sss unit
AND ONLY IN PPC

[grand jay]

But if you're investing in Ishmael you get a SSS tank and amp

[shadow mica]

Oh I thought it was like 22nd or something around there

[quartz dove]

Like usual physical IS GARBAGE

[pine slate]

But don't we lose 20% shred and 3s swap?

[grand jay]

So her replacing Selena is a small bonus

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

you realise you can't off element anymore in v2 void wz

[jaunty beacon]

Ur physical

[deft apex]

Its on the 5th, her patch will run until like 15th or something

[jaunty beacon]

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/60306e90a94aaa6e662d8908/2x.gif

[quartz dove]

Im going physical on u

[ripe stag]

Physically abusive Firefly

[woven haven]

they brought off element modifier in line with other wzs

[raw swift]

Pls free 600rc on 5th anniversary

[ripe stag]

I swear man

[pine slate]

Ishmael deal less dmg as an amp or smth?

[woven haven]

no

[grand jay]

No it's the fact that gen 3 tanks can't be run in Void WZ

It's like your other elements now

[pine slate]

[grand jay]

Same as bringing Wanshi in Lightning WZ

[raw swift]

[pine slate]

Can't we have like a qte bot as tank

[grand jay]

0.3x off ele dmg

[jaunty beacon]

Unthinkable

[shadow mica]

smh whel p2w game im quitting

[woven haven]

i mean sure in your case u can replace amp cuz your ishmael has no rights but like
your ishmael is going to be on support mem duty

rather than 4pc shred mem duty which contributes to dps

[pine slate]

[feral pollen]

so

back2back s ranks
ishmael mandatory for void wz or you're hella cooked
f2p no rights as usual

[pine slate]

Ok I get it now

[ripe stag]

Yes
Pulse

[turbid bridge]

You need tank to on field for their off field shred after ult too

[wicked imp]

What class and element is nanaknight going to be again?

[turbid bridge]

So fielding Ishmael instead of off ele tank would be ideal

[shadow mica]

It just means Lilith Uniframe next, and then A rank patch after

[raw swift]

Tank Lightning

[woven haven]

i guess nanami qte bot is fine but yeah rip shred application

[spiral merlin]

So maybe we’re getting a disorder wz?

Which is original void?

[wicked imp]

I don't even have a good lightning team 😔

[spiral merlin]

Just a guess

[raw swift]

She out damages cw so...

[woven haven]

she is the new main dps

SS Nanami outdamages SSS leaped CW

[wicked imp]

All I have is discount Fire team, uninvested discount dark team, and phys team

[ripe stag]

This is really bad

[woven haven]

in fact she's solo dps unless you have SSS CW and SS raised Feral

[wicked imp]

BRO I DON'T EVEN HAVE A LIGHTNING TEAM AT ALL

😭

[spiral merlin]

Nanami is the lightning team

[raw swift]

Don't worry nanami will be the team

[woven haven]

she is the lightning team bucko

[raw swift]

Wait SS raised feral? Wdym... Like SS3?

[wicked imp]

...

I guess I'll steal my uncle's credit card then

[raw swift]

Invested ss i think

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/watanabe-pgr-watanabe-watanabe-ultimate-watanabe-ult-1-gif-5342816096236660978

[woven haven]

like r2 minimum

although people still recommend full 3S

[raw swift]

Ohhh

[woven haven]

to make swap actually better than solo

[raw swift]

Oh

[shadow mica]

please replace CW before Feral

[still moat]

why is that

[raw swift]

Punishing Whale Raven

[still moat]

does she do enough damage to replace the likes of wata ?

[spiral merlin]

More like off ele dmg is dead

Though I haven’t heard about ishmael dmg changes yet

[still moat]

why

[woven haven]

cuz they reworked void wz

[distant wren]

well she's void so her dmg should be better than wata's by default

[woven haven]

and now off element is dead there

[still moat]

ahh

damn no more 2mil with fire team on void wz

[woven haven]

void wz's old lower off element mod is now back to normal off element

[quartz dove]

They kill off element to sell ishmael

As expected of greedy evil company

[still moat]

what about on fire wz though, does she replace wata at the same rank ?

[quartz dove]

[distant wren]

hell no

[raw swift]

Unless you can get her to sss and karenina scire to ss3 with sig, no

[still moat]

okay so she is more budget

[quartz dove]

But this is good tho thats mean i dont need to high invest wata right

[grand jay]

You're not running Tankmael in Fire WZ lmao

[distant wren]

she's for void 99.99% of the time

[grand jay]

Yeah

[quartz dove]

Im winning

[grand jay]

For neutral PPC and Super PPC you could run Nanaknight over her

[still moat]

she doesnt have the oblivion thing that convert stuff ?

[grand jay]

She is either a tank or amp based on your team

[distant wren]

no, her passive is the thing that let her either be amp or tank
convert is luna's job

[quartz dove]

Wata karen wanshi stock not stonk anymore

[grand jay]

Tbh something like this was bound to happen

With how Void is in current CN Ishmael was not gonna cut it lmao

[still moat]

[shadow mica]

Surely theres a spending event or something

[still moat]

but like does she still work for off element ?

[grand jay]

Yes

[shadow mica]

Maybe give us her weapon from spending event Kuro?

[still moat]

just a bit worse ?

[grand jay]

As an amp

[distant wren]

that could be for CNY instead

[turbid bridge]

She might replace Capri as QTE bot for dark

[grand jay]

A bit worse than most but far better than Capri lmao

[still moat]

ahh

[grand jay]

Only dark PPC

[raw swift]

Anything to replace Capri

[turbid bridge]

Yea but if there’s void PPC then maybe not

[shadow mica]

And then Capri leap next patch which puts her back on top

[feral pollen]

dark amp lilith soon anyways

[turbid bridge]

If same lineup as dark

[grand jay]

Void PPC you're still running Off ele tank

Shield still exists

[turbid bridge]

Except for those lower invest that might need rot 😂

[grand jay]

And the penalty isn't as bad as in WZ

[quartz dove]

Capri is legit dead nex patch

[grand jay]

Not really

[turbid bridge]

Oh yea no Void damage increase there

[grand jay]

You're still running her in WZ

[distant wren]

lilith replacing crapi pls

[turbid bridge]

Is there? I forgot tbh

[quartz dove]

No i mean that whoever moze cosplay with umbrella gonna replace her

[normal sierra]

lilith fire tank

[spiral merlin]

Replace free dark amp with free dark amp

[quartz dove]

So u prefer her to be uniframe

[feral pollen]

lilith lightning uniframe

[raw swift]

Lilith fire amp

[shadow mica]

Playable Jetavie when

[raw swift]

I NEEEEEDDDD

[distant wren]

what does ishmael equip in dark ppc then?
4dvc 4guin?

[quartz dove]

A rank

We have too much s rank

[shadow mica]

That smile is too smug. Needs correction

[quartz dove]

We need some breathing room

[raw swift]

S rank but free..?

[pine slate]

Daren

[sleek basin]

Doomy is working in kuro now, so not gonna happen

[quartz dove]

Sure

[pine slate]

[quartz dove]

But the problem is

The next unit will be free

[pine slate]

I find Daren replacement more reasonable than Capri idk

[quartz dove]

So it bound to be horshit in way or another

[sleek basin]

Will it be free tho

[quartz dove]

I say this few week ago

[normal sierra]

surely not cuz you have pleb Bonkerina

[quartz dove]

Dark need that sss tank passive vadly

[grand jay]

🤨

[pine slate]

Nah I can get her dupes on leap

The thing is, Daren has usage in ion

[grand jay]

This better not be Wanshi slander

[pine slate]

And dark has no -3s swap

Can just swap between lamia and lilith with Capri qte

[normal sierra]

fudge swap, solo is da way

[feral pollen]

karen second leap to add -3s swap

[sleek basin]

I'm too peasant to have shortened swap outside of ice anyway

[feral pollen]

actually why tf did they not add it with leap

[sleek basin]

Space for new dark tank

[quartz dove]

Why dont they add timestop to rosetta ult with leap then ?

[woven haven]

cuz not new gen tank

[feral pollen]

cuz she'll be new fire amp

[quartz dove]

U know the answer already

[feral pollen]

rosetta fire amp lesgo

[glass bay]

Unlike hoyo

[quartz dove]

Dazlao is cooking

[pine slate]

Imo 10% shred with 3s swap is better than a higher dmg amp that can hold 4 guin

[quartz dove]

u can skip rappa

[quartz sapphire]

Is there a good healer I can use as a beginner?

[quartz dove]

Meanwhile skipping even bad s rank hurt u in pgr

[raw swift]

Eclipse

[quartz dove]

[quartz sapphire]

Thank you I will use her!

[woven haven]

you can do it but just be aware that in your case

since you are using wanshi most likely

your off field shred is pretty dead

[ripe stag]

Whats Searing Bulwark in wata's kit?

[quartz dove]

Why using wanshi

[woven haven]

tank ishmael at least has off field shred field

[ripe stag]

Airstrike ? Cuz GR did not mention if it's after or at the time of ult 2

[raw swift]

Wait wait what level are u

[quartz sapphire]

Oh 46

[turbid bridge]

That’s his 12s shred after ult2

[pine slate]

I was talking about potential Lilith replacement in dark

Not Ishmael

[ripe stag]

Ah so the airstrike

Gotcha

[glass bay]

Who?

[pine slate]

Ig I can use Ishmael with 3s empy for void

[quartz dove]

Idk new hsr unit

[woven haven]

lilith replacement?

[raw swift]

Do u have an A rank or S rank unit?

[woven haven]

we haven't even gotten lilith and u alr want to replace her wtf

[quartz sapphire]

Unit?

[quartz dove]

No he meant who lilith replace in dark

[raw swift]

like characters

[quartz dove]

Its better to kick karen out

[quartz sapphire]

Oh yeah I do

[pine slate]

Nono, I mean Lilith replacing someone in dark, potentially

[quartz dove]

Give way more than kick capri out

[ripe stag]

I love how Wata's entire kit is Military themed

[pine slate]

If she were to be a dark unit, I think a tank would make more sense than amp

[grand jay]

Her shred is full screen just like Hanying

[woven haven]

amp is more fitting cuz we need to get rid of capri more than we need to get rid of scire

[quartz dove]

Cus

1. Creeping lamia in
   dps
2. Better shred for better overall team dps

[woven haven]

and scire on DV duty isn't too bad anyways

[quartz dove]

Scire dmg is bad

[grand jay]

Unless you have SSS3 Daren

[pine slate]

[feral pollen]

just get s+ daren she has good dmg

[woven haven]

besides maybe new gen amp 3s gets switch cd too
it doesn't stack so you just need one source of it

[glass bay]

If u play daren u can hear woooooshaaaa

[grand jay]

Actually even then she struggles to clear further waves lmao

[quartz dove]

[pine slate]

Well if that's the case then ig it's fine

[jaunty beacon]

Woooshaaaa is da wae

[quartz dove]

Need to powercreep lamia too on ppc

[grand jay]

Lilith might be the most cracked Amp of all time if she ends up getting cd red lmao

[pine slate]

If there's no swap CD on amp, I feel like she's just gonna be a higher dmg amp that can hold 4 guin

[quartz dove]

[grand jay]

She's gonna outdps Daren somehow ik

[raw swift]

In dms

[jaunty beacon]

Solo are bricked because they can't hear the woooshaaaa

[quartz dove]

Dark boss in cn is pathetic

[pine slate]

If only Capri wasn't sera locked

And 20% dark dmg locked at sss

[woven haven]

oh btw they added an extra thing

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

The abilities of Observation Chronicle will be strengthened with the subsequent release of other characters in the future.

[quartz dove]

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

ishmael buffs will equal the current STRONGEST amp/tank of the element

[jaunty beacon]

Tbf. Our lightning team is mem lock like dark

[woven haven]

and so they will be buffed on a per element basis

[pine slate]

So we can skip units now, pog

[quartz sapphire]

Okay

[jaunty beacon]

It's just that crapi sucks

[feral pollen]

so they'll be periodically updating her amp/shred values?

[pine slate]

I wonder what they're cooking for gen 3 amp

30% atk + 30% elemental dmg

[jaunty beacon]

Watch kuro disregard the gen brainrot by just releasing amp on steroids. With no add

[pine slate]

[visual topaz]

New Liffu?

[turbid bridge]

Off field healing field buff, like how gen 3 tanks have off field shred

[pine slate]

Qte dmg bro trust

And reduced qte cooldown

[feral pollen]

i'm pretty sure gen3 amp will just enable qte cooldown resetting locked behind sss

[pine slate]

[jaunty beacon]

New liffu

[turbid bridge]

DV OP in that case lmao

[pine slate]

Using signature move on any unit reset qte cooldown

[quartz dove]

[feral pollen]

or matrix on qte

regardless of matrix cooldown

[raw swift]

Guys i just start playing and I am very confused on which S rank to pick

[quartz dove]

Futureproof in kuro game bruh

[pine slate]

Pulse from 5 s rank selector, Rosetta from 10 s rank selector

Both units won't have immediate effect on ur account yet

For gacha, wait a week for next patch then start pulling on the event unit

Current patch is saving patch

[feral pollen]

wata drops next thursday?

[pine slate]

31st

Roughly a week

[glass bay]

I'll drop u next Thursday

[feral pollen]

[grand jay]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-crying-will-smith-sad-gif-14770497

So Ishmael is never getting crept got it lmao

[raw swift]

Pulse?..

[glass bay]

Too bad her char model is trash

[opaque ridge]

Guys we won

[glass bay]

?

[opaque ridge]

Now we need to get kuro to put livgame’s face on ishmael

[glass bay]

Wth is livgame

[stone gulch]

its dansgame but liv

[vague nebula]

what did we win?

[carmine reef]

It

[raw swift]

It

[pine slate]

Ishmael model changed

[quartz dove]

Thats bs and u know it

[pine slate]

Nanami pulse

[quartz dove]

Where is ishmael new model

[raw swift]

#💬・pgr-general

[spiral merlin]

Art did don’t think model did

[grand jay]

Model hasn't I checked

[zenith thorn]

go to #💬・cn-lobby