📨・meta-help

[viscid cave]

unless i have skill issue 💀

[cerulean grotto]

I got more than you bruh

All of them r3 too💀💀

Will ss it and send you next time I login

[viscid cave]

can't beat this s* t because my balter is use 5* weap 💀

[woven haven]

welcome to metacheck 101

[steel horizon]

get every A rank's 5* weapon and 3reso

[cerulean grotto]

I'm actually doing that rn

[steel horizon]

better yet, equip every character with a 5* weapon and 3 reso

also ty for help aether and jambu

[cerulean grotto]

Actually doing that

Lemme check, just wait a sec

[haughty quarry]

This is not hollow orange

[raw swift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1297537533890269214/cook_engine.gif?ex=6716497f&is=6714f7ff&hm=bfbe019920c790926ce03064d8a238f5f69506b0cb995ea357800efe60449177&=&width=509&height=905

[viscid cave]

bro who let him cook like that

[wispy robin]

@woven haven if you were to build dps teddy what would you use

[rugged cloud]

whay is this guy in elite in my bracket

[woven haven]

guild?
bathlon + darwin cottie i guess

[mild grail]

I chose these memories in derived from matrix,what team should I use

[shadow holly]

cuz hes horrible at the game
obviously

[dapper skiff]

Leader is hard bro

Even with whaling isn't enough

clueless

[rugged cloud]

slaccer say whaat

[cerulean grotto]

@steel horizon

[wispy robin]

i'm going to main teddy in my tw acc

[jaunty beacon]

We are joking but there are deep blue icons. Favourite gamemode of everyone

[shadow holly]

that phys score

[mild grail]

?

[woven haven]

its best gamemode cuz it makes feral a better dps than CW

[steel horizon]

where's noctis

[jaunty beacon]

Well. Personally i enjoy it, even if I'm one of the few

[steel horizon]

oh I had to expand the image

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

its kinda
all over the place
you have a flamel piece but also 2 pieces of charlotte
ig use either phys or stay with dark for now
if you get a memory workshop node then you can scrap alice to get a full set of charlotte which will be good for phys

[cerulean grotto]

Its still a wip tho

Currently focusing on uniframes

[rugged cloud]

I'm now interested

[steel horizon]

imagine having any uniframes other than camu

[cerulean grotto]

Oh you'll be surprised

I have em all

With all uniframe skills

[jaunty beacon]

Catch em all

[dapper skiff]

Me when fossil

[cerulean grotto]

Typhlosion ain't got nothing on me

[steel horizon]

on the topic of pointless content, I need to find more characters with red/blue preferences in my dorm. they don't exist

[jaunty beacon]

If qu was a pokemon. She would be my typhlosion

[cerulean grotto]

I made 2 dorms and I quit

[steel horizon]

maybe they are all uniframes

[cerulean grotto]

You mean, you'd be the pokemon

[steel horizon]

I'm waiting for the auto complete dorm stuff for zero effort free skins

CBA to do it manually

[jaunty beacon]

Maybe. Maybe not

[cerulean grotto]

Qol ❌
Laziness ✅

[cerulean grotto]

[raw swift]

pal

[jaunty beacon]

🫦

[dapper skiff]

Curse incarnate?

That just bombing drones

[cerulean grotto]

Dat robussy indeed

[steel horizon]

tf is a huiyu

[jaunty beacon]

A peacock

[steel horizon]

why does the peacock explode

[jaunty beacon]

She's throwing chicken nuggets on the envoy

[dapper skiff]

And it explodes

99% pure nuggets

[shadow holly]

genetically modified bird weapons are the future

[woven haven]

she throws peacocks using eagle sfx

[cerulean grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/beauty-peacock-strut-strutting-chest-out-gif-14884888

[steel horizon]

I thought birds were a hoax

[woven haven]

so yeah something about that bird ain’t right

[cerulean grotto]

Wtf is this gif💀

[steel horizon]

a peacock

[jaunty beacon]

Birds are inventions from the FBI

[dapper skiff]

Goon?

Is it the time already?

Dear lord

[steel horizon]

11 minutes too early for that

[cerulean grotto]

Peacock lord

[shadow holly]

stroking-help

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

I can help u bro

I'm a helper anyway

[shadow holly]

[jaunty beacon]

Can i have financial help ?

[cerulean grotto]

Would

[dapper skiff]

With or without oil

[cerulean grotto]

Bro got premium service too

[steel horizon]

yes pls fund me 20k RC so I can get all topups when qu comes

[dapper skiff]

Giving dat hak tuah to the homies

[cerulean grotto]

[quartz dove]

[jaunty beacon]

I'm pulling pavo instead of Shukra

[cerulean grotto]

I'm pulling you

[jaunty beacon]

😳

[cerulean grotto]

[quartz dove]

Surely people wont hyper invest qu cus theyre drained by watanabe right ?

[raw swift]

[cerulean grotto]

Smh who's pulling an old man

[vocal lynx]

Hi…

[cerulean grotto]

[raw swift]

[quartz dove]

#💬・pgr-general

[jaunty beacon]

People would skip Qu because this chat spam that she's a pain to play

[dapper skiff]

Blud gonna get breathtaking first impression

[cerulean grotto]

What difficult

[raw swift]

Necessary evil

[cerulean grotto]

Just slacc wz ez

[dapper skiff]

Tbh

[cerulean grotto]

[vocal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-lucia-pgr-lucia-lucia-pgr-punishing-gif-15059347772793680746

[dapper skiff]

Would save their sanity ngl

[vocal lynx]

Okay, I will say Hi in #📨・meta-help version

[dapper skiff]

It just not worth for this deadass gaem

[cerulean grotto]

Those who keep complaining are whels anyways

[dapper skiff]

[vocal lynx]

Skill issue Hi

[quartz dove]

Wait how many days till uncle again

[cerulean grotto]

80% of the playerbase would simply pull to goon

Not everyone is aether

[raw swift]

11

[dapper skiff]

Uncle out on 31st

[cerulean grotto]

[jaunty beacon]

I don't think playing bambi against emperor is good for their sanity

[dapper skiff]

Could urself

[vocal lynx]

What’s the rush?

[steel horizon]

I think you mean the 1st

[quartz dove]

Ah shet

[vocal lynx]

I’m so cooked

[cerulean grotto]

31st

[dapper skiff]

Who says fight emperor

[steel horizon]

isn't maint the 31st

[vocal lynx]

This is the first time I didn’t achieve 20k BC

[jaunty beacon]

I mald my gooning

[vocal lynx]

I’m going to probably have to skip signature if I have bad luck and his CUB

[dapper skiff]

Banner up right away after mt

[shadow holly]

[dapper skiff]

That's how it goes nowadays

[vague nebula]

how is the void amplifier situation for ishmael. rumors saying she weak af even as void amp

[quartz dove]

Damn 20k bc must be nice

[steel horizon]

maint ends after midnight

[dapper skiff]

Idk

[shadow holly]

yea v1 version was quite bad

[vocal lynx]

Ishmael?

Wait, is she allowed to be talked?

[dapper skiff]

Can't care enough about beta

[steel horizon]

I might just be wrong though

[dapper skiff]

[deft apex]

i think i'll score my first 1%-5% on ex this time

[quartz dove]

You wait till finale product release

[vocal lynx]

I thought CN content that isn’t released yet isn’t allowed…

[raw swift]

Yes

[jaunty beacon]

Wait for live version. It's dumb to speculate about beta

[dapper skiff]

Whel

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

She's been confirmed it's fine

[vocal lynx]

I see

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-ishmael-pgr-pgr-ishmael-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-12759752163771245258

[raw swift]

We love ishmael bite

[vocal lynx]

Yeah, her changes are tomorrow hopefully they did lots of adjustments on her

[jaunty beacon]

Mine

[shadow holly]

only for this channel tho
for others its uhh
a week after official release on cn? idr

[vocal lynx]

especially her MODEL…

[dapper skiff]

She's also allowed to eat your fck ing balls

[raw swift]

That would hurt

[vocal lynx]

CN has been complaining so I have hope

[dapper skiff]

That would hurt

[jaunty beacon]

Idc about cn content

[vague nebula]

damn!

[cerulean grotto]

I like ult 1 more cosmic ass and booba

[dapper skiff]

True

[vocal lynx]

Our Dark Amplifier

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

We only care about goon

[raw swift]

Save dark lilith

[cerulean grotto]

Clank clank clank

[vocal lynx]

I just realised something, is Dark the worst team now?

[quartz dove]

Yea

[jaunty beacon]

Amberia goon

[cerulean grotto]

Lilith gonna be a uniframe trust

[quartz dove]

It got sht tank

[cerulean grotto]

Who's dis 💀💀

[vocal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/lilith-pgr-pgr-lilith-lilith-pgr-horny-gif-9248390151224236784

[vague nebula]

[quartz dove]

Sht amp

[jaunty beacon]

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

Bro already forgot amberia

[shadow holly]

nanami in v1 beta was quite horrible too so

[woven haven]

v1 beta issues

[vocal lynx]

Remember guys

[dapper skiff]

No

[cerulean grotto]

I mean, if she weren't a literal centipede NGL, would

[dapper skiff]

I have dementia

[vocal lynx]

Strong in first beta = Nerf
Weak in first beta = BROKEN

[vague nebula]

i see

[woven haven]

nanami in v1 beta had “more” dmg but needed cottie so

[vague nebula]

well then no worries

[woven haven]

depends on how you look at it

[river nymph]

[vocal lynx]

Will a Dark Amplifier save the Dark team state though?

[woven haven]

but rn i can tell you ishmael is still probably not replacing anyone

[dapper skiff]

She's looks cute

🧁

[woven haven]

she’ll just be void slot unit and that’s all

[vocal lynx]

More of a Dark Tank is needed…

[unique tiger]

i have a question
should i go for my 1st copy of starfarer, rigor, or 21?

[jaunty beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-dog-fluffy-gif-14145348

[quartz dove]

Patton beta rework got nerfed is flat out insult to phys

[unique tiger]

for check event

[woven haven]

none of the above

[unique tiger]

for check event i mean

[shadow holly]

oh really
it seemed like she just didnt do all that well
but ig also her damage distrib was messed up
pretty much only ult did damage

[dapper skiff]

That's quite awful combination to pick

Starfarer ded next next week
Rigor shards are free

[woven haven]

check event?

[mighty tusk]

standard

[dapper skiff]

Just save it for future unit tbh

[unique tiger]

for global

[quartz dove]

Standard selector

[woven haven]

Yeah still bad choice

[quartz dove]

Its what its called in glb

[dapper skiff]

Nothing much u can get if that's all of your options

[woven haven]

all 3 are very low priority there

[mighty tusk]

starfarer is garbo

[unique tiger]

this thing

[woven haven]

starfarer is literally about to die next patch

[quartz dove]

Starfarer ded in like 11 days

[vocal lynx]

I’m so glad

[woven haven]

powercrept by a unit 20x stronger

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

not even exaggerating

[vocal lynx]

Real ones remember when Nanami was praised a lot here even as Starfarrer

“Her sig is a must save for Nanami”

“Get her”

[dapper skiff]

They already quit the game

So it doesn't matter ig

[vocal lynx]

Old PGR was so cool…

[jaunty beacon]

Wata beats mech because he got a sfx skin

[woven haven]

you see her do more dmg now because they buffed her basic attacks

[vocal lynx]

I was one of those who saved up for her

[deft apex]

yeah cuz fire tank > no fire tank

[woven haven]

and the heisen

[vocal lynx]

Exactly

[quartz dove]

If ur lee can oneshot

Pulse kinda better

[vocal lynx]

Which is why she was so popular

[quartz dove]

[vocal lynx]

She was also Nanami

[deft apex]

everyone was saying to get glory and his sig back then too but that's doesn't mean he is a good tank

[distant wren]

she was needed cause what other choice did we have?
still trash tho

[woven haven]

ok sss mech guy

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

we know u whaled hard

[quartz dove]

I dont have her sss

[vocal lynx]

I don’t know I love Nanami

[woven haven]

still lying

[quartz dove]

I hate her that much

[deft apex]

no problem nanami's coming again

[unique tiger]

this thing

[vocal lynx]

She was amazing and carried my account during her Starfarrer debut

[shadow holly]

everyone knows what ur talking about
if you already ahve everyone else other than those units you mentioned, save it for someone in the future

[ripe stag]

Yea
Wait for Lamia Lost Lullaby from here next patch

[woven haven]

yes we know
don’t pick anyone there rn

wait a patch

[river nymph]

nice sugar pfp

[unique tiger]

wait, so this will add more units if i just dont touch it?

[quartz dove]

If i truly like the tank i would back pull it to higher invest

[shadow holly]

well yeah its just the standard pool
so it updates

[unique tiger]

oh ok

[mighty tusk]

all s-ranks get added to standard 2 patches after their debut

[jaunty beacon]

It contains units from the general pool. And every S ranks are added to it 2 patches after their release

[unique tiger]

ok ill wait then thanks

[vocal lynx]

For those who don’t know, new Nanami is so broken to the point she crashes my 3 year old device with just entering her Saw stance

[deft apex]

[unique tiger]

im 10 pulls off so i can waiy lol

[stray siren]

My fire team did more damage than physical and ice team on WZ

[river nymph]

will she be playable on my chrome book?

[quartz dove]

Is it true wara is instantly added to that selector in qu patch ?

[distant wren]

no

[vocal lynx]

Uhhh

[mighty tusk]

for jp iirc, they did

[river nymph]

[distant wren]

jp is the only server that adds s ranks to standard just 1 patch after

[quartz dove]

Surely for global too

[distant wren]

no idea why tho

[quartz dove]

That would be insane if they do

[shadow holly]

im pretty sure it was just a one time incident with qu being available there on teddy patch

[distant wren]

nah back in lamia patch in jp alisa was there

[shadow holly]

💀

[river nymph]

[quartz dove]

They hate global so much

[humble flame]

did cw recently get changed? like the memory resos

[foggy ridge]

ice wz leader with fire team

im da best

[dusky quarry]

Teddy patch

[dusky quarry]

As she is supposed to be

[woven haven]

in CN yes

Now you can build qte resos for cw

[dusky quarry]

Tho I guess in beta V2 some issues will be resolved, which issue n. 1 the kit, like amplification & shred should be tied either within ranks, core or sig

[foggy ridge]

as the founding fathers intended

[dusky quarry]

Not with memories

She wouldn't be the only unit that is extremely sig reliant aniways

But memory reliant? Nah, just give dmg buffs and stacks with memories

And maybe, just maybe, increase her void dmg

She's Gen3 Amp, give her a Gen2 tank wata like Dmg at least

[woven haven]

she’s not memory reliant for buffs its just that her sig mem is needed if you want to onfield her at all

the problem stems from being unable to use eins or 4guin

[humble flame]

i got it as basic and sig but it changed to basic and any +15 attack

[hollow tulip]

[hollow tulip]

are you sss cw?

[humble flame]

no

[quartz dove]

Technically ss3 can use it too

[humble flame]

that was the recco from b4 but on gray ravens it changed recently

[hollow tulip]

then it has always been basic attack reso top and +15 bottom reso

[hollow tulip]

fair

[humble flame]

welp looks like im ss3ing her ig

[dusky quarry]

Observer class issues lol

What do you think it should be done to make her capable of carry eins or Guin (4pc)

I can actually see the real issues now

[river nymph]

for guin 4pc she needs 2 heal ticks in her qte heal

[visual wind]

Does 130k enough to 3s+ a character?

[dusky quarry]

They should just add another tick

[foggy ridge]

i should actually try reaching 10% for once atleast

[dusky quarry]

That I guess is impossible

Or is it?

[shadow holly]

10 copies so no not exactly unless you get lucky on fate or smth

[visual wind]

I thought it's 9

[shadow holly]

11 is with skulls

[deft apex]

Maybe this time

[river nymph]

its 300 shards from s to sss+

[visual wind]

Wow that alot

[shadow holly]

yeah just going from sss to S+ is more expensive than going from no char to SSS

[river nymph]

[deft apex]

hopefully it's enough to actually get 1%-5%

[visual wind]

So i need to get early for 2 copies

[shadow holly]

considering its sunday already you should be in 5% just fine

[opaque ridge]

how do u get into 5%?

[shadow holly]

idk u just do badly enough to get kicked out of 1% and ur in 5%

[opaque ridge]

they should disable restart and only allow you to wantap ppc attempts

[dusky quarry]

No mald allowed

[deft apex]

you'd think so

[thorn creek]

Cuz u suck

[carmine reef]

let's see if i'm still in 5%

[tacit horizon]

how long is brs's story?

[carmine reef]

i usually get barely kicked out on the last day

[tacit horizon]

i dont have much time to read it

[shadow holly]

i mean
you'd have to get kicked down into 4% AND then into 5% and thats not gonna happen

[tacit horizon]

so im thinking of skipping

[dusky quarry]

15 nodes only

It's relatively short compared to the rest

[carmine reef]

doable?

[tacit horizon]

so like around 4-5 hours of reading?

[deft apex]

maybe i'll actually do it for the first time this time

[tacit horizon]

and is it good?

[woven haven]

neither its an intentional balancing restriction to make her not powercreep other amps

[carmine reef]

but i want the other amps to be powercrept so bad

[dusky quarry]

Saw a video of tomi vasius trying her in Void wz

In both roles, Amp & tank

Yet.... The moment he used her as a tank (at S+) he used an Amp ss3

Got at 20 waves In WZ

[dapper skiff]

No

Literally 15h and 38mins more until reset

U ain't staying near that 4%

[dusky quarry]

When he used ish as amplifier he got to wave 24 and he was using nanaknight ss(3?) as a tank

[carmine reef]

[dusky quarry]

I mean dude used 4dv and 4guin

In Amp and 2 eins and 2 cottie (together with sig memories)

When playing her as tank

That video imo is quite misleading as well

https://youtu.be/lfNC4v019V4?si=ObBklNPk40pYs80v

[deft apex]

it's also kinda irrelevant since beta

[humble flame]

cn ice team is lucid qu and alya right?

[carmine reef]

yes

[humble flame]

how long till lucid

[carmine reef]

a long time

[thorn creek]

PGR players are wild complaining about her design and trying to make fanedits of a BETA CHARACTER

[humble flame]

so might as well raise hypno?

[carmine reef]

uh they are two different roles lol

hypnos is support, lucid dreamer is tank

[thorn creek]

Ayla does his role better

[humble flame]

ik but still 3 ice better than 2

[analog coral]

not really

[carmine reef]

what

[humble flame]

fr?

[haughty quarry]

hey, after that should I buy cottie to reso these, or buy the other memories from lamia set?

[analog coral]

because ayla and wanshi hae in essence the same job

[carmine reef]

well

[analog coral]

you might as well run an off element tank imo

[carmine reef]

SSS wanshi > sigless ayla

[analog coral]

fair

but the time for that is still a bit of an oof

[humble flame]

mine is nowhere close to sss

[distant wren]

is there even a reason to use hypnos anymore? other than wz qu solo if ayla is sigless

[carmine reef]

i mean it's whatever

it's the same thing we've always said for rozen and capri

[humble flame]

so ill just get sig for alya

[carmine reef]

a long ass ppc clear lol

[thorn creek]

If F2P, focus on getting future S rank characters b4 pulling for sigs

[humble flame]

i am f2p pro max

[thorn creek]

But I’m not ur father so u do u

[haughty quarry]

how many shards the game gives u if u get a copy while pulling on banners?

[carmine reef]

depends on base rank of character

[humble flame]

mine dead lol

[thorn creek]

S rank copy 30

[carmine reef]

S rank 30 shards
A rank 18 shards
B rank 6 shards

[dusky quarry]

It's also true, will see tomorrow with beta2

[thorn creek]

So I can adopt u

[haughty quarry]

kinda makes me feel like choosin vera and xxi just so I get shards faster

[humble flame]

Ye

[distant wren]

feels like the b ranks take longer to s+ because of this

[carmine reef]

well get the A ranks that you're missing and need first

then you can choose whoever you want for shards

[haughty quarry]

ye I'll do that

[dusky quarry]

So many ppl disappointed, they hope ish would powercrep someone

[haughty quarry]

Im missing characters to a point that I dont even need a new dorm space cuz I aint got no one to put there

[carmine reef]

i would prio xxi for shards

once you have everyone

cause you can get s capri from rdf and use her until you have sss rozen

[haughty quarry]

feels like capri could take even longer than sss vera

ngl

[carmine reef]

rdf is free and grindable bro

[distant wren]

underwhelming for void is a problem indeed, but why expect her to outperform other amps?
feels like ppl are just not getting the point of her class

[haughty quarry]

yeah I know

[carmine reef]

you could get capri in a day if you really wanted

[dusky quarry]

Quick question, after teddy patch the budget dark team is lamia, 21 and teddy?

[carmine reef]

for me it took like 2 weeks

it's really not that bad at all

[haughty quarry]

nah thats high effort Im just saying cuz that stuff makes me lazy

[distant wren]

rdf is also faster to farm compared to beginning now

[haughty quarry]

but I'll at least do dailies

[dusky quarry]

"jack of all trade and master of no one"

[carmine reef]

no
rozen still better than teddy as qte bot
teddy only better for ACTUAL budget dark team, which is not what you listed

[glass bay]

More F2p abooz

[distant wren]

yeah which is why she needs to be good at what she's supposed to do aka being a void dps

[dusky quarry]

Teddy dps?

[carmine reef]

in an astral team yes

[shadow holly]

tbf for actual budget dark youd use capri

[distant wren]

the substitution for other amps/tanks are purely for newbies to cope

[haughty quarry]

matter of fact, I can choose shards over unecessary characters like dawn right?

[flat aurora]

is there a rule of thumb on who to slap da vinci on if i'm still on the newer side of the game? like slap it on tanks or supports/ amps

[carmine reef]

not that i have any numbers but i lowkey feel like teddy might be better than s capri

[dusky quarry]

Void buffer/debuffer

[distant wren]

sure, same thing

[shadow holly]

if both tank and support are qte bots, more often than not you'd have dv on support/amp for general use/wz because it allows for double qte with tank for better shred coverage across teh waves

[carmine reef]

ye that's why i said the characters you're missing and need

[haughty quarry]

thank you kind sir

now I'll wait til my serum is back to buy cottie

[dusky quarry]

Which is actually what she should be (atp increase her dmg and a tick of heal)

[distant wren]

i mean u can want her to have special buffs/shreds for void only
but expecting her to powercreep all other amps in their own elements is just unrealistic

[dusky quarry]

I think globlul didn't get the point AGAIN

[carmine reef]

i don't expect it but i want it

the amps need to be powercrept so bad

[livid lark]

thats what people said about luna

[dusky quarry]

By other amps of same element

[carmine reef]

sure yeah

[dusky quarry]

Not by a universal one

[livid lark]

and they misinterpreted her class desc

[shadow holly]

at most i can understand her being better than capri for dark
since capri has the downside of being locked into seraphine
but its not like im gonna get ish sss to do that xd

[distant wren]

game only has 9 units/year, and they expect players to have multiple teams for multiple elements
and it's a gacha game, u can connect the dots

[carmine reef]

i can't connect shet

[distant wren]

not defending them but it just won't happen

[carmine reef]

i only know how to connect 4

[dusky quarry]

I will get her to sss

[haughty quarry]

let empyrea keep cooking

[carmine reef]

dude no empy needs to be powercrept just as bad as the others

[dusky quarry]

But I sss the unit I like esthetically

[carmine reef]

SSS+ minimum just to even have any field time is mental

[dusky quarry]

Crapi first

Empy later (she got leaped December last year)

[carmine reef]

that doesn't matter for whether she needs to be replaced or not

[dusky quarry]

I can see the point tho

[carmine reef]

they're all so cooked rn

[dusky quarry]

Old concept of amps, they don't even have ss3 tho

On top of that their damage is too low now

[carmine reef]

feral is the only one with a good ss3 and it lets her halve her rotation which is why she's in comparatively the best shape at the same rank as others, but she's also the only one that isn't voucherable so everyone has her at lower rank

[deft apex]

capri unfortunately needs to go really fast

just put her out

[carmine reef]

all the amps are so damn cooked

[dusky quarry]

Capriccio is too bad

SSS & Sig reliant

[carmine reef]

r u not followin the convo

in cn status quo that's ALL of them, and some of them STILL don't get field time with that invest

[dusky quarry]

That's true

[distant wren]

capri and alisa still have some field time but it's more like we don't have a choice but to swap them in

[dusky quarry]

The moment units like wata, Qu, wannshi, pyroath come, amps automatically becomes qte bots

[distant wren]

due to rotation time

[dusky quarry]

Dark team in cn is so cooked

[thorn creek]

until lillith comes

[dusky quarry]

They almost always 1 gen behind

[distant wren]

kuro's gonna do a little trolling and make lilith not a dark unit with how much we're expecting it at this point

[carmine reef]

Oops! All Fire

[dusky quarry]

Fire, lightning, ice & phys are fine

[dusky quarry]

Remember when ppl thought wata was ice tank

[distant wren]

balter straight up looked like a dark unit lmao

[dusky quarry]

Everyone hoping for luna powercreep

Instead the sister got powercrep

[distant wren]

ppl coped for lamia being ice too cause water and all that
and ice was pathetic

[dusky quarry]

Ppl wanted ice attacker at time cuz ploom tbh, is unbearable

Now she's just kek

[distant wren]

and feral was expected to be dark

[dusky quarry]

[haughty quarry]

dark epitaph

[distant wren]

hell I think i saw some ppl wanting cw to be ice back then
ice really has been garbage for such a long time

[haughty quarry]

is it like that only with ice?

[jaunty beacon]

[distant wren]

it's one that stands out more, can't say if it were the only one tho

[haughty quarry]

by the way how bad it is to use vera (not sss) over selena

[river nymph]

[jaunty beacon]

[feral pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuo8_IgNKtk

[jaunty beacon]

english, i won't open

[haughty quarry]

kuro will release double element units trust

[carmine reef]

depends on the situation
whether you'd rather want the 10s amp passive or the extra 4 mem slots

[ripe stag]

Affix

[woven haven]

you’re only trading seraphine for eins lock anyways

its only “slightly” better like legitimately 5% better than capri in ppc

and requires reshuffling a new qtebot set for karen

[woven haven]

we already have that

[shadow holly]

oh right boned with no eins

[haughty quarry]

make it triple then (trust)

[dusky quarry]

Lucia

[woven haven]

…we also technically already have that

[dusky quarry]

And teddy

[shadow holly]

teddy???

[ripe stag]

Affix already makes units do 2 different damage

[ripe stag]

Dark
Void

[dusky quarry]

Teddy is 90% dark and 10% void

[woven haven]

teddy doesn’t deal void dmg
she does 100% dark

[shadow holly]

lil bro she doesnt do void damage

[ripe stag]

I mean
He asked double element

[dusky quarry]

They changed it?

[distant wren]

ah yes, when casuals saw new lucia and thought she dealt lightning dmg lol

[ripe stag]

So there's that 10% void you count in

[woven haven]

The 10% void came from the shieldbreak disorder back when they still associated void with disorder

[haughty quarry]

dang

[woven haven]

Now it’s different since they did the lucia separation

[ripe stag]

She actually had a bit of lightning damage in beta
Then they scraped it in v2

[woven haven]

nope, all Ionization dmg

[distant wren]

did she? iirc it was just the icon saying 20% lightning dmg in her info

[ripe stag]

You remember v1 when Lucia had lightning damage percentage for some weird reason in her bio ?

[woven haven]

They just gave her lightning icon because ionization’s base element is lightning

they removed it

[ripe stag]

Yea this

[woven haven]

it didn’t mean she dealt any lightning dmg you bozo

[dusky quarry]

Just the affix

[woven haven]

they already put in the different res numbers for lightning and ion

[ripe stag]

That was basically testing Ionization
They removed it

Next patch

[woven haven]

this was just to clear up the misinfo that she could be used in lightning content from v1

Ezra spreading misinfo again smh

[dusky quarry]

Waiting to see more misinfo about Ishmael in next future after beta 2

[distant wren]

has there been a game with such huge amount of misinfo if ppl don't know where to look?

[dusky quarry]

Well, just tomorrow

First misinfo was that she powercrept all amps

(some globlul still believing it)

[distant wren]

it's wild how casuals' "knowledge" for pgr is like that of a different game compared to the ppl actually knowing real info

[woven haven]

The thing about teddy being void was just more for show anyways

like “hey she does technically have anti void shield mechanic” but in actuality she doesn’t even deal void so she doesn’t even get the on element bonus in the first place

[glass bay]

What element does teddy do

[woven haven]

by right in current design she wouldn’t be 10% void anymore

[paper bone]

isnt her onyl void related ability just 10% more shild dmg

[woven haven]

she would just be a dark unit with disorder affix

[woven haven]

2x when she heals herself
1.3x if she heals someone else

[glass bay]

[woven haven]

so she can grant a shieldbreak buff but ew

[paper bone]

yeah 10% void unit

[distant wren]

so is it like lucia situation except they didn't even bother removing the void icon for teddy?

[woven haven]

idk if they removed it or not honestly

[dusky quarry]

No one uses teddy aniways

[woven haven]

it shouldn’t be there for all intents and purposes

[dusky quarry]

At least in comp

[woven haven]

oi i will not have you disrespecting one of the best gb a ranks

actually high scoring and not total cancer to play unlike bridget

[dusky quarry]

How's Bridget a cancer

And what about yata

[paper bone]

who?

[wispy robin]

teddy is lowkey the most fun char to play ngl

[woven haven]

would you like to press 4 buttons per second
over and over

for the entire GB duration

the same 4 buttons btw

your fingers will cramp by the end of it

if you play optimal bridget gb score anyways

[dusky quarry]

Lel, at least not as cancer as Qu

In fact of gameplay

No superarmor is a problem

[wispy robin]

wtf uncle got stuck and doesn't move nice ai

[jaunty beacon]

bridget is aids

[river nymph]

why is uncle beating up kamui

[haughty quarry]

Cuz unc not kimochi yokata

[jaunty beacon]

they're fighting for the mesugaki

[ripe stag]

Bro.......he's comparing Pulse to Wata

He thinks Pulse is good enough

He's too set to pull Qukra cuz "no ice unit"

Idk how he doesn't have ayla

[jaunty beacon]

ayla was the worthiest unit to voucher

[ripe stag]

She actually saved ice

[hidden forum]

@shadow holly @remote pier

its possible now

had to find a way to slow down my ds to get my blues to hit

💀

[shadow holly]

[hidden forum]

its legit micromanaging

down to the milliseconds

💀

[shadow holly]

imagine not dsing hell
just go get s+

[hidden forum]

cant do hell without s+

stuck at 8/8/8/8/9

if i had garnet harmo maybe 7/8/8/8/9

[shadow holly]

yea thats what im sayin
just pull s+

[hidden forum]

next 2 patches too tight on my bc

[shadow holly]

u getting what
3s3 3s3
or any s+?

[hidden forum]

sss3 for both prob

[remote pier]

smh

[opaque ridge]

tight on bc? just buy more bc with rc

[jaunty beacon]

ayla S🥚 skin

[river nymph]

[hidden forum]

fund me dalao

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

look at all these people needing so much BC

you only need one card

the 💳

[river nymph]

my moms credit card

[jaunty beacon]

because daddy didn't came back

[river nymph]

yeah where are you?

[pine slate]

Can u be my mom

[jaunty beacon]

searching cocogoat milk 😭

take it son

[river nymph]

🫃

[shadow holly]

#🌞・trophy-room message
gah damn why he coping so hard

[pine slate]

[shadow holly]

sheesh stacked up on her costumes hell yeah

[carmine reef]

[dark halo]

how much of an investment does Watanabe require to be good? SS+sig?

my fire team is definitely my weakest after ice

[carmine reef]

define good

[shadow holly]

he'll be much better than any other fire option at base
ss and sig is good
cub is fantastic too

[dark halo]

viable?

[carmine reef]

literally all you gotta do for him to be better than current team is pull him

[dark halo]

wow

[shadow holly]

S 5*

[dark halo]

that good huh?

shame, I really liked Hyperreal's gameplay

[carmine reef]

hyper is still in the team

[pine slate]

S 5*

[shadow holly]

ss sig cub wata solo with 2 A ranks outdamages the whole current fire team

[dark halo]

no I mean him being overshadowed by a tank, feels kinda unfair

[carmine reef]

[dark halo]

not blaming wata tho he is awesome

[carmine reef]

not the first time nor the last time

[pine slate]

Hyper is dead in ppc rn tbf

[dark halo]

but lee is literally the m ain character lol

[carmine reef]

what

[pine slate]

Lamia does way better scores than him on fire bosses

[carmine reef]

r u playin the same game i am or...

[dark halo]

he's gray raven?

[quartz sapphire]

How can you add people? I don't know where i can do it

[pine slate]

[pine slate]

Bottom right

[carmine reef]

lucia is very clearly and unambiguously the main character

[dark halo]

by that sense yeah, she is

[quartz sapphire]

YES THANK YOU

[carmine reef]

tf you mean by that sense, there's no sense in which she isn't

[thorn creek]

lamia is very clearly and unambiguously the fishiest character

[jaunty beacon]

For those complaining about a tank beating attacker. Crimson abyss was killed by a freaking CuB

[dark halo]

but lee still gets a lot of screentime and plot relevence

[jaunty beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850308190762958858/964490664127639602/EDA358D7-8831-4CDF-9D64-0D3DB18EFA59.gif

[carmine reef]

[pine slate]

[dark halo]

lmao

[thorn creek]

plp complain too much. i just want fun characters

[shadow holly]

rosetta cub making her do more damage than alpha?
or whats this about

[jaunty beacon]

They were both even in wz. But we still SW in ppc. Until her pet came out

[shadow holly]

[jaunty beacon]

Then entropy got more usecases than CA in ppc

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[thorn creek]

entroPEAK

[foggy ridge]

oh well it is what it is

[woven haven]

i meannnnnnn

Luna -> Scire
Veritas -> Garnet
Hyperreal -> Watanabe
Balter -> Hanying
CW -> Nanami

we have plenty of cases of this alr

its not the first time nor will it be the last

hell we can even count plume -> kaleido and ember -> empyrea

[dark halo]

nanami outclass cw whaa

damn cn must be insane

[foggy ridge]

as fate should

[jaunty beacon]

Ofc a new unit should beat a 2yo old

[dark halo]

man I wasn't really excited about metal gear solid watanabe before but now I'm totally hyped

[pine slate]

Well cw is very old already

Ss0 nanami out dmg sss cw

[digital moat]

@rocky wedge wave 12 vassago annoying af

[steel horizon]

Is sss Daren seeing use again as a nanami support

[woven haven]

ss0 nanami beats sss leaped cw
enough that its better to run solo ss0 nanami unless you have sss cw and an invested feral

[digital moat]

Made me run out of orbs too

[woven haven]

in other words cw is actually potentially a qte bot if you don’t have feral

doesn’t help that cw leap buffs qte

[foggy ridge]

im not gonna bother building lightning till nanaknigh comes out. yes ill be like the lee skippers screw off

[pine slate]

Cw need sss and leap to be qte bot tho

[jaunty beacon]

People were less shocked when ss cw beat s+ veritrash

[woven haven]

hence potentially

[pine slate]

Or else you'd be running someone else for qte no?

[jaunty beacon]

Paking simps

[woven haven]

best qte bots for nanami are basically SSS leaped CW and r2 feral

below that it depends heavily

[cerulean grotto]

Nanami is a tank

[jaunty beacon]

Ok and ?

[wispy robin]

s garnet should be better than ss cw right

[cerulean grotto]

People aren't used to seeing tank > attackers in other games

[steel horizon]

Is sss leap cw better than sss Daren? I’m not informed on what cw leap does

[digital moat]

10× qte damage

It turns into a nuke

[foggy ridge]

in fairness tanks are not really like tanks in this game like others

[jaunty beacon]

We're returning to the 1st point now

[pine slate]

Same thing

[grand jay]

You need to use ult 2 before swapping out

[pine slate]

Both are weak qte bots afaik

[digital moat]

Right that too

[pine slate]

U could maybe even use pyroath? I heard her qte deals quite a lot

[grand jay]

6600%

[digital moat]

Like 5 seconds at the start to actually do it

[jaunty beacon]

Wanna compare siren's times pre garnet and after ?

[wispy robin]

i wonder if you would rather just run double amp at this point

[grand jay]

@ SSS

[foggy ridge]

pyroath qte bot sounds wild

[woven haven]

its just one ult2 that's easy

it takes like 3s total tbh

[pine slate]

So what mems does qte cw hold

Dv eins Gloria?

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-thednaofthesoul-memesthednaofthesoul-monsoon-metalgearrising-gif-26431019

[pine slate]

Or maybe dv eins cottie so u can ult 2 faster?

[grand jay]

True

[stuck sphinx]

No need for doubleshit

[woven haven]

dv on feral cuz obv double qte

honestly just run eins heisen and ig gloria?

[hazy sandal]

Yeah… mostly…

[rocky valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179646181375225956.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[buoyant hornet]

I just realized this might be a funny callback to how Lotus qte has hilariously high dmg

[pine slate]

Fair

[buoyant hornet]

1k multiplier or something like that 😭

qte dawn

[stuck sphinx]

Whadapak I thought you get free energy

[pine slate]

Why heisen tho, does nanami use it?

[stuck sphinx]

Doubleshit still faster?

[hazy sandal]

Free energy makes you more faster doubleslit

Lmaooooooooo

[pine slate]

I like how u said lotus qte then proceeds to check out dawn

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179775282446618645.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

Doubleshit every wz

[hazy sandal]

I mean in onslaught

[wispy robin]

@grand jay when is daily reset on tw?

[grand jay]

I don't play TW

[buoyant hornet]

I was just wondering if dawn and plume kept the same trend of high qte multipliers 😭

[grand jay]

I play CN

[wispy robin]

oh wait you was cn

[stuck sphinx]

Yeah but eventually I will get next wave but too slow to spawn for -50k score because I didn’t doubleshit

[grand jay]

Proof

[safe vessel]

Why can't I claim it?

[stuck sphinx]

That’s not advanced

[hazy sandal]

Intermediat

[grand jay]

You're not doing advanced PPC that's why

[hazy sandal]

e

[safe vessel]

How can I do advanced PPC?

Ohh now I see

[stray siren]

Hit level 80

[safe vessel]

Need level 80

[distant wren]

what does pre mem rework wata 2x amps team in ppc use?
sss alisa 4dvc 4guin?
ss empy 2eins 2glo 2sam 2lantern?

[grand jay]

You need to get 1mil total score in regular PPC

Then you can do advanced PPC

[foggy ridge]

whel

[stuck sphinx]

What is this zaza solo wata

[distant wren]

ppc bro

and it's in his patch only since qu patch has mem rework

[shadow holly]

can go can do 4guin 2ein 2glor empy and 4dv 4sam alisa

[pine slate]

4 Fred wata when

[shadow holly]

and post mem rework would have to fit shakes somehow unless you have it on wata

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/918073480363270145.gif

[distant wren]

ah right there's 4 sam too

[shadow holly]

mem sam

[vale raft]

Samantha ★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Healing effect increases by 5%. Next healing effect increases the target's Elemental DMG by 8% for 4s. 5s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

The next healing effect adds an elemental aura that increases the Elemental DMG and Elemental Resistance of the allies in the area by 8% and 5% respectively. 10s cooldown.

ATK

107

CRIT

51

DEF

181

HP

1208

[pine slate]

Samantha is good if ur gonna do multiple qtes

[distant wren]

could have 4 shakes 2eins 2glo on empy, no?

[shadow holly]

i guess theres some merit to going 2sam 2lant too
idk which is better

[pine slate]

I go Samantha over Gloria sometimes idk

[shadow holly]

yeah
mad zaza though

[jaunty beacon]

Wata 4 einst. He gets hit to parry 🧠

[keen spade]

How the hell am i supposed to win this

[shadow holly]

do enough damage

[stuck sphinx]

Go faster

[keen spade]

Cant

[shadow holly]

[pine slate]

What is that

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[shadow holly]

CR

[stuck sphinx]

Clash

[keen spade]

Can SS physical team do it fast enough?

[jaunty beacon]

Everyone doing CR the last day. I thought it was a new cycle

[stuck sphinx]

I did it with ss phys

[pine slate]

Ah Cristiano Ronaldo

[shadow holly]

like legit if you dont have enough damage it means your team is too bad or you're not playing correctly

[pine slate]

Yeah easily

[keen spade]

Im guessing its the latter

[jaunty beacon]

Cucumber racist

[stuck sphinx]

R0 balter r1 rose r1 Alisa

[pine slate]

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

I has to go over time

[keen spade]

How do i do a "correct" rotation

[steel horizon]

Depends on invest

[stuck sphinx]

Ss

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-kento-kento-jujutsu-kaisen-overtime-gif-19476598

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/946772686275768340.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[pine slate]

What invest, wep resos

[stuck sphinx]

Reso doesn’t matter for rot tho

Nobody needs dlt

[hazy sandal]

Overtime work

[keen spade]

SS with sig on like all 3 of them

[pine slate]

Start Alisa

[shadow holly]

#📨・meta-help message

[pine slate]

Balter 1.5 rotation > Rosetta > Alisa

Just do usual wz rotation

[pine slate]

Don't u do 1.5 on ss0

Why u doing 2.5

[shadow holly]

i did 2.5 first swap in because didnt do double double qte on rose

[frigid crown]

wait so do i go core pasive or sig?

[shadow holly]

most people just do 3/3

it literally even says that right there

[keen spade]

Ok

Attempt 3 here we go

[frigid crown]

oh , okay

[pine slate]

U can just 3p into ult tho no?

[shadow holly]

but losing so much damage from not doing 2 stack ult on rose

honestly i shouldve just made a newer better recording

[pine slate]

[hazy sandal]

Currently gr site is doing a mem page renewal

Not finished yet

[pine slate]

[hazy sandal]

its strange that scire mem page was renovated before empyrea though

[round viper]

Guys am I doing something wrong or is the fake ascention chapter just tedious as f

[hazy sandal]

Tedious chapter

Youre right

[rocky valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1249944412554006560.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[round viper]

This is gonna take me forever

[keen spade]

Its not even close
My ult energy is gone

[shadow holly]

idk bruh there is NO way ur at 40 bars 2 minutes in

[keen spade]

What does Balter use for memory at SS?

[keen spade]

I have no idea how

[shadow holly]

in your case it would be 4charlotte2leeu/signa

[keen spade]

Yeah thats the correct set

[glass bay]

where is this ishmael

[deft apex]

nowhere to be seen

[glass bay]

we been fk robbed

absolutely robbed

[foggy ridge]

skin probably

[raw swift]

Short hair

[pine slate]

How's ur qte usage

[shadow holly]

idk i would log into ur acc and try it myself but idk how else to help u

[keen spade]

Usually i get it at balter ult 1 and ult 2

[pine slate]

U time the ult 2 impact dmg with 4p dv?

When she slams the floor

[keen spade]

This is SSS balter right?

[shadow holly]

this is for SS0 balter

[keen spade]

My ult doesnt fill up that fast

[shadow holly]

but ok lemme make a better one

yeah cuz mine is ss3 but i did the rot ss0 uses

[last blade]

whats the lamia team aagain

[shadow holly]

i cant just turn off rank upgrades

[keen spade]

It should be timed correctly....i think?

[rocky wedge]

wow insane

are u using cottie ayla?

[keen spade]

If she slam it and both QTE are white it should work right?

[digital moat]

Yes

[carmine reef]

but make sure you do it early enough that alisa's buff actually applies too

[digital moat]

I reached wave 11 at like 0:53

[carmine reef]

he's so huge

[digital moat]

Ran out of gas for vassago

[digital moat]

[pine slate]

Yup

Is ur device good enough to record

[wispy robin]

record your run

[pine slate]

I feel like there's smth very wrong in ur rotation

[last blade]

how do i get more coating bps smh

[carmine reef]

dorm

[last blade]

NOOO

[velvet agate]

Had some accidents that forced me to not being active on discord for a week

[jaunty beacon]

Just say that nobody cares for advanced

[river nymph]

there is a pack in the shop

[shadow holly]

[jaunty beacon]

And it's free. Since it doesn't cost BC

[round viper]

tf am I supposed to do? that mf is invincible...

[keen spade]

No
Cant seem to do it

Ok
Usually if you ult with balter
How much damage is that supposed to do

[pine slate]

Bro 40x HP on 2 min is crazy

I used lamia solo

[keen spade]

1:30

It activate at 1:30 min

[hidden forum]

@shadow holly @remote pier

cooked this week

surely i wont get kicked to #2

[last blade]

i am on the way 👹 beware from #19919112200

[hidden forum]

couldve been 1.88m if i had 8s lamia hell

[remote pier]

I hope you get kicked

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[velvet agate]

k mr. 11.352 rc

[round viper]

????

[last blade]

[shadow holly]

[round viper]

I love when the game just doesnt tell wtf I'm supposed to do

[pine slate]

[glass bay]

Whel

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f2p

[keen spade]

Nop
Cant do it
No matter how fast i rotate its not fast enough

[glass bay]

Lie

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[shadow holly]

wheres your lamia though
dark team is usually stronger

[pine slate]

Its not about rotating fast, its about getting the rotations right

Ur goal isnt to try and swap as fast as possible between those 3 units

[visual topaz]

i cleared it with 2.022.0 110 001 Phys

balter yuan ye base rank cub

[carmine reef]

is GA an attacker reso or generic

[pine slate]

Attacker

Incan is generic

[visual topaz]

[carmine reef]

so for a tank dps like wata, in like a ppc scenario where you didn't need dlt, what would you run

incan or the tank shred one

[visual topaz]

what ppc are you talking about

[carmine reef]

idk really just a really vague question

[hazy sandal]

Note that Leap karen changes into matrix reso at warzone

[still moat]

surely they wont snipe me right

[hazy sandal]

Its not incan for her

[nova forum]

@pine slate wot u use on chaos & hell bshark and how much score

[carmine reef]

like let's assume non-onslaught, just regular exppc

what would wata use in a scenario where an attacker would normally be using GA

[visual topaz]

shred incan orb reso imo

[carmine reef]

i see

[visual topaz]

he sweeps most boss so not even tank extension needed

[carmine reef]

tyty

[visual topaz]

as for wz he'd run stuff like orb tank shred and tank extension

[carmine reef]

i'm not getting more than r1 on anyone in my life so

[visual topaz]

i haven't got to play him so no clue if he orb hungry

[visual topaz]

tank shred

no need to think more

[carmine reef]

[visual topaz]

until we get tank reso revamp

[shadow holly]

i would imagine ML is significantly better than incan unless you somehow dont trigger matrix

[visual topaz]

so that other tank apply it

[carmine reef]

does wata have a built in matrix trigger

[shadow holly]

yeah

[carmine reef]

on what

[keen spade]

My dark team has S Lamia and A rank support

[shadow holly]

on parry

[visual topaz]

auto parry ircc

[carmine reef]

on parry

[shadow holly]

ye

[keen spade]

So i went with phys instead

[carmine reef]

how reliable is that

[visual topaz]

what phys invest

[shadow holly]

you do manual parry with grapple

[keen spade]

What a pain in the ass

[carmine reef]

but like

[shadow holly]

core epitaph

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Warrior's Reflex - Firewalker
Trigger: Paradigm: Assault is active + Hold Dodge

Watanabe uses the hook to pull in the target from a distance, dealing Fire DMG. If the target cannot be grabbed, Watanabe himself will rush toward them instead. Gains Super Armor and 40% DMG Reduction while performing this skill. Using Basic Attack or the Red Orb skill while pulling in the enemy can immediately trigger parry.

• Deals a total of 40.0% Fire DMG.

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