#📨・meta-help
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What u use ur brs selector for ?
Who are u 
Am ur father
His huge whel


Just like u dazlao
k whel

what brs selector what did i miss

I'm f2p 

oh the paid one 
oh come on fury is posting misinfo again
Huh

Average fury posting
Fury new video omg
Typical fury
he says she powercreeps all 4 elemental amps (she doesn’t)
ishmael vs luna void dmg graph soon
My personal idea:
- Ishmael is made for the void team, currently, team testing is Luna, Nanami, and Ishmael(amp).
- For other elements, she probably replaced all current amps in the meta and became one of the damage dealers in that team instead of the current amp QTE slave, this idea still in testing, will see 🙈
- One power-creep Four: Ayla, No.21, Liv, and Selena. Alisa survives because she is not an element 😂
- For people who do not follow the meta and lack many meta characters such as new players, Ishmael alone is very flexible, varies, and can adapt to your account very well.

Ye he should keep his personal idea to himself
NAUR
fk this man
well i hate u too aether
fury bouta cook up zaza wz strats


he just came from future and saw v2 trust 
Just bring back panini gray raven and give s rank selector to everyone
The last one have some truth in it
yeah cuz she's cope replacement for meta skippers
Challenge for Fury trying not to brick his global fans (impossible)
This dude really just says sht without ever considering any consequences huh
So she's like using Herscher of Truth in PT2 meta in hi3 ?
Perfect example of talk first think later
she is not meta for anywhere except void
Neither is HoTruth
she just is able to substitute for missing units
so it's Nity rota? was hoping you found some other rota to use, cuz this carp is nowhere near killing for me 
will try some more tomorrow, maybe it's some iframe issue I didn't notice
Anymore
Gotta get that sweet 💵 first bro
Actually a bricked chara ngl
substitute for missing sigs* 
Let’s skip!
So for void, the only benefit ishmael gives is more void shield dmg?
F it. We'll use Teddy
kinda
ig she does have some dmg herself
void sub dps ig?
dont think there's gonna be another void unit with the way they made ishmael
they made ish the same way they made luna
usable before new void units released + some cope for new players as a bonus
ye ig

well, shark start time is a bit shorter than tb so it shouldnt be as annoying time wise so you can try no daren 3p and mald orbs on lamia for 3x3+2 for quick ult instead
should have time to allow core orb damage to land before ult2 on 2nd rot
man i can't stop listening to that new nanami track now
out of all vanguard tracks this one brings me back to 00s the most


where did my qte button go
Mars
mare 

Old man spotted
Hello uncle from wata's generation

when is ishmael
Next year

are we there yet?
even if she impossibly sucked i was gonna sss+ her anyways
Wait so Ishmael adopts the class to fit in but not the ele?
Huh
i think?
I mean if so the dmg testing may reveal she can fit in somewhere
yeah
depends on whoever the leader is set to 
so basically if youre missing a role just slap her on there(Except phys)
well she's still gonna do void damage
its just that her buffs/debuffs become of needed element
although she's like not usable in stuff like ion cuz daren is dark
so she becomes dark while lightning buffs are needed
no
her dmg is already pretty whatever in void
the off element modifier is enough to kill her dmg
she's only usable as qte bot elsewhere with MAJOR drawbacks
She need to do dmg on par with luna
she is the universal cope unit
SSS Ishmael only very barely better than Capri in Lilith PPC where she won't onfield
on a scale of 1-10 how hard should i focus dorms
10
Void, the cope team
oh damn
I barely do dorms
ishmael can't really replace anyone outside of void
Ignored for like months now
i only got 4 with people inside
she's just straight up worse than empy/feral at the same rank
slightly better than capri as pure QTE bot
worse than kaleido
cannot onfield outside of void
Thats terrible
for Dark PPC QTE Bot Ishmael, she requires you to change your daren support mems entirely in order to work
so you are losing daren class reso unless you re-reso the whole set
Qu is after wata and shes completely busted to justify the her less desired postion being non free s rank

I haven't touched dorm at all nya
at ss3 when stig goes on field do i immedately use her sword waves?
Qu completely busted alright
hold basic attack yes
Busted 
Dark PPC mem setup:
Capri: 4seraphine2eins2guin
Daren: 4DV4Bathlon
Ishmael PPC mem setup:
Ishmael: 4DV2Samantha2Guin
Daren: 4Bathlon2Gloria2Eins
congrats compared to voucher unit SSS, SSS Ishmael nets you...
6% more res shred and 8% DMG bonus, and minus 2 class resos on both amp and tank
which is worth +1 bar of HP on Hell Lilith



But wait, wheres 4guin for onslaught?
They might aswell change her element to dark let her creep lamia and no one will be angry about it if shes dark amp

just don't run dark on onslaught

If, IF her changing buff wle also change her ele dmg, now that'd be way too busted

I mean is void needed score increase in wz or ppc ?
Dont think theyre behind at all
Meanwhile dark
Basically she's just a flexer in Void itself
If purple changli doesn't get buffed, imma quit PGR
Outside of void, not much
kev

TF
actually

not u too lorian
if you had SSS tank and SSS amp

SS Ishmael is a nerf to luna dmg while a slight buff to non luna dmg while she's on swap cd

das lilith's job
Apparently dark is fine according to kuro
she only barely kills capri in Dark PPC and that requires building a whole new qte bot set for daren
fraudmael


U rich u can do it
Do you pronounce Ishmael like ish-mel or is-ma-el 
So thr correct wa-
idfk whays the correct way xdd
Sdjjdkckcc




she needs some correction
😭💢


ishmael is free to skip


Game is gonna eos before even Ishmael debut smh
How do I get extra 15k f2p to get b2b nanaknight + ishmael
Swipe
play the damn game lilbro
the income per patch isnt 7.5k
As F2*

Also mentioning f2* is a crime now
how much is it
me when i have to play the game
its closer to 9-10k avg at least with bc+tickets combined
fat patches can go significantly beyond 10k
like 13-14k
but global doesn't get fat patches compared to cn
Don't forget one time bc or event tickets rewards from permanent rough like gamemodes
global gets 1 week cutoff
im...talking about global
Karen is decent i think (Hero Rank - Plume Eisnteina holder)
i know CN gets those but Global has to speed up without any comp
but missing shred from einsteina on changyu
how do you have time for anything extra here?
I can count the number of times I managed to use 2nd ult2 at 13s on 3 fingers 
and didn't kill, of course 
karen would still be worse than chungus
Plume is using eins lmao, But with Qu it would be another story, I think
qte plume
oh ig she can proc it
surprisingly
https://youtu.be/rjCVD4NU5e4
idk my run was timer bug but bad orbs on first rot and also 3p at the start
so if skip karen orbs and mald orb rng on lamia can get a good additional time margin
can basically do this run https://youtu.be/mggDkOK7NHI

Yeah, I was playing on my f2p account (Leader rank) and I tried it because I don't have glory there, and it works much better than with Chagyu, so I did the test on my main account on Hero to see the results
I didn't use Bonkerina 3p at start and still too slow
my boomer hands not made for this orb spam 
shark also can cause cancerous hitlag so yeah thats that
guess its sometimes also atk pattern rng
tho its mostly solved by timing cub skill properly
how the fudge did you manage to dodge all stage dot? bruh
does cub root also stops stage dot? or how?
Root? 
i didnt
i lost 6 hp in the end
during tidal dot hit me
but yea idk how tf it works
8 score lost but ill take it
I already feel the "I give up" moment tomorrow 
f2p plan
but just deleting a shortcut won't do much 


Shield reso daren

BruJ


That cat is about to become the meal
but covid is leaked from a lab
Time to ban
Uniframe Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Uniframe Set
Used at all ranks.
6x Marco
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
None
WTF
Jail
@livid lark I NEED ANSWERS

Nah that's partiality

who should i go for in the member targert? new player

[A Ranked Character Recommendations for Early Levels](#📨・meta-help message)
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thanks, also since i can pick the s rank, who should i pick? or any is fine
Probably wait for next patch and yoink Lamia (if it's the std selector)
For pc is the camera interchangeable
this is some Nice A Rank Virus
no
does anyone actually buy this (if they aren't omegawhel)
meanwhile Aether : She's just a normal unit
Brother you can use her instead of any tank or amp in any team this is really broken
getting 2700 weap tickets and 30 weap reso shards... kinda worth it 
It's good value if you give the shards their BC value
So get her sss you got yourself a sss tank and amp for any team
how much bc per shard you sayin?
where did you get that info? 
Typically people value a USB at 5000. So 30 shards is 1000
This is what I read on reddit I don’t know if it’s accurate or not
omg reddit 
reddit 🗿
interesting, 5 rc for 10 standard pulls
misinfo pro max 
She can be a BRS support
Damn she is not broken
I dont see the issue with this
k whel
hey guys would you say this is worth it?
5 rc for 10 standard pulls
yes
that's like the first thing you buy
she pretty bad compared to all the amp in their respective roles
she's worse than every amp/tank
And why is that?
she's purely just for qte bot slaving if you don't have the meta unit
mpa rcbc ratio 110
that bundle ratio is 500 
Hmmm so no damage?
...ofc?
is someone actually saying that you can sub ishamel for any tank rn
she does only void dmg 
she deals void dmg bro 
she's a void amp basically
she will deal 1/5th dmg in off element and currently her void dmg is ass too
she can't run 4guin or eins 2pc either
which is like what EVERY AMP RN RUNS
wait why not 2eins
void dmg qte
Wait no 4 guin?
OHH
yeah she can't 4guin
1tick heal
the only usable non void scenario rn for ishmael is just Lamia PPC
shred/buff is also tied to 4pc
General chat: Say less, omw to SSS her
don't trust reddit 
das fckign crazy
and fyi Capri is free... and voucherable
never*
and that's the only time ishmael is better than any meta unit
specifically lamia ppc kills

never don't trust reddit? 
otherwise she's just void unit
This is ass
surely its V1 issues
This is why I came here to see my dreams shattered
Better now than one year after
nice.
so wise 
is rozen worth the S+
you serious?

omw to use ishmael in phys and ice anyway

I was just scrolling there don’t judge me 
I didn’t even know that the beta is published up until now
to brick, or not to brick
the green one is better
Is ishmael worth pulling?
im kidding don't answer that
not worth
anyways just pull
she is worth
just that she won't powercreep everyone like people are thinking
She was discounted literally 2 weeks ago
she's still good for void
btw is the wataburger copypasta out yet
da wha
Would’ve been amazing to see
do you think they’ll buff her damage or her void shield bonuses
qte dmg
wait for discount if u really want it
wataburger
cuz blank said that she kinda struggles on shield waves
IT WAS A JOKEEE
blanc
well at least he's not wrong this time
She definitely looks great
I mean I wouldn’t say no to more mommies
Oh

Surely she’ll be free
so we dont have double spend patches w/o 2xsaving patches
You wish
just watch kuro getting all ur money (||but that's what I cope too
||)
and since majority of her good stuffs come at SSS... that means she'll be voucherable... right 
It’s a gacha game at the end not charity 
I mean its what kuro did in the past
she also tanks a lot of your team's highest dmg output cuz you run DV on Ishmael anyways
but with sig mem
so you lose both guin and eins mem slots
idm if its double spend anws cuz I have funds + she doesnt look like a must rn
actually it'll be a triple 
since Lilith comes right after
I wonder what actually happens to the serums, do they get like injected into the frames or do we just drink them like energy drinks
slluuurp
I am pretty sure its injection
they taste like estus
So I should save qu top up selectors if that is the case 
lorewise it's an injection
I am also pretty sure theres an example during luceum
is it for the frames though?
Its for humans to deal w pv
for humans
or could it just be the sht the skk's exoskeleton's run on
Specifically skk
dang.. so literally skk overdosing
Constructs don't need it
good stuff bro
i mean its not like you can under dose it
yeah 
she isnt 
Yayyy
stop coping smh my head
teenage girl confesses love for man with trauma and overdosing injection addiction
this is how I will explain pgr from now on
time to save all those yellow tickets we get from events
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DLyuYfEV4 @woven haven4 dv setup 
wait
4dv 2eins 2cottie
ishmael is like right after nanami?
Wait I didn’t even see her gameplay 
yes
Is void usually that low score
god... MY WALLET.
Time to watch
7.7M 
fr
it is beta dumbo ofc its alway low
okay okay, after teddy patch I will start saving seriously

because I still want dreamcatcher skin
so ill at least drop 10k bc for that 💀
or RC if the value is less
Also it looks like she has energy issues
Like her she has barely not enough for ult
maybe its not a big deal
Rc always less
nothing good ol cottie can't fix
anyways does ishmael perform better as an amp or tank
thats why the author used cottie in the clip
3.1露娜4专4呆 6攻6大 2机3共
3七实4专4海森 6攻6大 2机2共
3慈悲者4达芬奇2爱因2阿呆 6攻6核心 2机3共
4dv 2eins 2cot
6 atk 6 core
i do not know chinese
i do not either
but as an asian I- still don't know chinese.

her gameplay is so cool
so basically luna one tapping and nanaknight dealing more dmg than ish 
one sec
just bigger icon
qte + AA + dodge + ult to max size
in fairness
Nanami’s dmg is ridiculous and she’s using 4heisen
Ishmael is gimped by the DV set on top of her already w/e dmg
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT IT CAN CHANGE !?

ok yea just reaffirming myself I suck at the game
He forgot to yellow orb too so he’s missing some damage and rot efficiency
I legit cannot swap-> dodge cancel swap in and make the dodge go forwards when I play fish
End result is probably slightly higher damage than Nanaknight in that run
Empress’ ayla nana luna void team scored 800w
...
Mmh
@woven haven you wanna hear about what fury said about ish? 
we already went over it
it was such a dumb take
but what do u think ek?
yeah we already went over it
My personal idea:
- Ishmael is made for the void team, currently, team testing is Luna, Nanami, and Ishmael(amp).
- For other elements, she probably replaced all current amps in the meta and became one of the damage dealers in that team instead of the current amp QTE slave, this idea still in testing, will see 🙈
- One power-creep Four: Ayla, No.21, Liv, and Selena. Alisa survives because she is not an element 😂
- For people who do not follow the meta and lack many meta characters such as new players, Ishmael alone is very flexible, varies, and can adapt to your account very well.
she can’t run 4guin or eins
that instantly fks her over
wow
in all non void comps
alr stop posting it alr
i get the 4 guin part but not eins
she can't shred with eins?
void dmg qte
she shred void
ohhhhhhh
remember eins is based on qte element
and void doesn't count as an element then
i mean ein shreds void 
Void brick
just a cope replacement for meta skippers
Ek are u alr translating Ish kit ?

or are u waiting for the live version
Hey my guess is correct
also her dmg in v1 is already whatever in void
imagine the off element dmg
I would be more polite and say beginner
She replaces 5 amps at once, not all but sort of
Ko's doing that lmao
why reinvent the wheel
ko’s already done
damn so quick lmao
well yea so it's kinda pointless for me to try
at best it would only be for my learning
also it's beta so I'm waiting until the live version to release
Learn Chinese by attending class
Learn Chinese by watching pgr videos on bilibili
learn Chinese on Duolingo
hell no

don't work. im stuck on rice

i would never recommend using duolingo for jp study
Chinese more difficult?
nope
Than japanese?
You didn't watch enough boku no p...
depends on which aspect
also duolingo just sucks at asian languages
jp is a heavily contextual language
True
so true
duolingo suffers from helping people understand that
hence why duolingo isn't worth using
I just read pinying for chinese now
You may use papago while translating kimchi language
just using ankiweb to learn both Chinese and JP
yea just avoid duolingo for learning asian languages like you would avoid fury for pgr
Learn jp through light novels 
jp and cn so hard
setsu korean class when
doujins

Shibal sekki!!!
i can recommend better tools than duolingo for jp lol
and i can even teach it myself if need be
nah but i need to learn korean to watch setsu vid
bro didn't even censored it 
I’m gonna learn jp and only use watakushi
You mean subtitles doesn't exist in japan in
real life
remember kids if you feel dumb
people like this exist
if i need to I will uncensor lol
waduhellll
aether, did we have auto attack button on cn ?
thanks aether 
on PC yes
on mobile nah

Mobile rapid fire when
I got part 2 of that
whare ? i cant find it

1 week late
on mobile u need a controller iirc
Tldr, I'm salty that cw isn't the strongest main dps so I'm boycotting the unit that powercrept her
Dv nanaknight

noooo attackers are suppose to be main dps

And tank are supposed to tank ? 
They're merely supports and qte bots
They're suppose to block dmg cuz it a team based game
Bridget beddar
@mighty tusk 2 mil for SSS0 balter good enough right ?
Will pull tmr
Bro is flexing
what a patience
me I always pull if it's 250 alr
@jaunty beacon
I know
nah i pull when something big is coming
3* weaps?

When people asked for a memory rescue nerf back then 
*getting entropisss weap*
Gambler in the soul
still a win, free reso
Pull me

I summon u to control this man's goon
SOMEONE CALLED?!
Here we go
oh sht he actually came
Wait hold on for a sec
faster than thoughts
free fodder at least
Okay, I'm back
Of course I would

Well you did say to control him
Kevin what have you done
jesus y everyone know my name
@carmine reef come here sweetie ❤️
His name is Kevin?!
NOOOOOOOOOO


Yes it is
Good it's spreading
Onee chan 
what the fuuck
smh Kevin
I mean it is literally in your username 
I find funny I gave the nickname out of nothing
and it was right

stop calling this man his name guys
Who should I choose?
I already have crimson weave
i want to say Crimson Abyss but meta would be Rosetta

Wtf
Stop bricking people smh
How did my message deleted

Smh go get sum life
KYARU SPOTTED

guys quick question will the starting s rank selector which has s rank fron liv lumi to nanami pulse would get updated in any future update?
Nah
Neva
Always
It just pulse because she's the least useless unit from all 5
It just that
makes sense okay will take her than Thanks for clearing the stupid hope it will be updated in future kek
She's dead dead
Aoi mid
Why does she keep dying

Qukra cub needed ?
Ofc
Like wata cub level needed ?
Yes?


For 5s
Whel mindset smh smh
How to S rank no21 signature?
2 blue orb pings + 1 basic attack x4
You mean 3 times
oh ok my bad 3 times lol
I have the perfect video on how to do XXI Ult.
By CC Cha0tik
Also isnt it 1 3ping + 2 BA?
Yes 
it's a 3ping regardless in that state tho
🧱
Autofire + spam orb 
Instructions unclear
ok whatever 1 blue orb ping + 2 basic attacks
You might not know
But he got into a fight with me some months ago
Did he spam you with insults to see how much damage he could freakin do?
Nah you were right it’s 2x3ping blue followed by 1 BA, repeat 3 times
Coped with XXl before Lamia for dark
He went full emotional mode
And literally made a video on the situation



Wait
1 blue orb ping ? HOW ?
blue 3ping fills the 4 bot orb things, 1 BA uses up 2
Who even is that
biboo
Was it like that?
Does anyone know what's Empyrea memory set after Epitaph released?
I thought BA adds to the orb until it reaches 4 then explodes
Ofc, at least during ult. I never paid attention to it for normal mode
Oh wait I might be wrong
Mostly support set
Davinci, Guinevere and Einsteina
Depends if you have harmony or not
Elizabeth is no longer used
Some says higher rank Empyrea still can use it, but still questionable for general recommendations.
Blue orb creates matrice and each BA fills up 2 orbs so he’s right in that screenshot
3ping blue and 2 x BA, repeat 3 times
Misinfo avoided

Einsteina seems have better shredd

You’re not the only one apparently 
can we get the wata patch countdown soon?
Because it is
12 daaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyssssssssssssssssss
No
let's goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Does having tank and support really necessary?
Can't I play with 3 attacker?
no
tanks and amps provide debuffs and supports that increase your damage much more than trying to stuff 3 attackers, esp since only 1 of those attackers will be competitive in damage
class storm
the meta tanks and amps already do more damage than older attackers
If you don't get it, Tank's attack reduces enemies resistance to damage
Specifically, your character damage
Having tank in a team = instant major dmg increase
In that case...
2 tank class passives don't stack with one to another
Rec tanks and support please :3
5 options selector: Nanami Pulse
10 options selector: Rosetta Rigor
Why?
Because they're the least useless unit to pick from the selector compared with all of the other options
its not even "least useless" its "the only ones worth picking"
Not really
Can we recommend entropy once bridget is here?
Alpha CA Not worth picking?
she is trash
Useless
Example
Entropy from 5 pick selector can be picked and build together with rosetta and Alisa that you can get for free for an easy complete physical team when Balter is nowhere to be seen to get
considering entropy gonna stay at s0 forever its omega copium
Once solacetune release, rosetta may or may no longer be the best pick because most of phys stuff already done by solacetune and for completion Nanami storm with 5* chainsaw can be used along with hanying for 100% def shred
I heard that Balter is going to be free on that patch it's true yuh?
rosetta is still used after hanying
Entropy rank ups barely done anything
But it's still better than rosetta dps and Alisa + stone support
Because that's the only best choice lol
You didn't consider the minimum investment of it
Does them will fit with Lucia CW?
Sss rose not needed
It’s for a super ppc one rot strat
So you need high invest hanying
It just requires hanying to not use sig memo set?
Yeah no need for 4 changwuzi with one rot
Plus rigor weap is similar to pulse sig
Also, in the future veritas bow may be better than roset sig because how we can simply use it for harmo so Alisa can actually use both DV and signa for buffing physical team especially hanying
Both can be valuable yea
Future way too cope
Compared with roset sig that's only 20% more def shred, I'd go for 100% Crit and DV over it
Don’t bother installing 
Just quit pgr
PGR eos soon
No more future alpha frame to meme on
My Rosetta is SSS
Genshin is better game anyway
Thank god
Exactly
Also likely lasting longer than pgr
No one understands how good Genshin is
I thought the main point of Rosetta with Hanying was to stack the 5% res shred from Rosetta QTE leap
Just wait la
WuWa EoS in 1 year
That 5% res shred requires SSS rank
SS0 roset doesn't have it
💀
I don’t think it’s stackable
Also yeah
Aren’t they both called penetration pivot or whatever
It's gonna be same type shred on Hanying patch
Like how mech and pulse shred is basically 1 same effect
That can't be stacked
Ah I see

o
leap rigor
Raging Surge
Wide-area Electromagnetic Cannon</color>'s Base DMG increases by 10%.
Level 9: Wide-area Electromagnetic Cannon also pulls in nearby enemies. After casting [Signature - Absolving Spear], the next low/mid-power electromagnetic cannon's Base DMG increases by 100%.
Level 18: Low/Mid-power/Wide-area Electromagnetic Cannon generates an extra 3 Signature Energy. After casting Wide-area Electromagnetic Cannon, Rosetta: Rigor becomes Overloaded for 4s, during which all 3-Pings and Signature Move will receive the maximum Energy Point bonus. New effect of [Passive - Lance of Eternity] added: Lance of Perception inflicts Penetrating Pivot that reduces target's Physical Resistance by 5%.

you can play with 3 attackers if you don't mind your damage being abysmally bad

3 attackers if you want for fun
and still abysmally bad
if they aint chasing scores they can play with whoever they want



ok in my defence that was gray raven's fault
this game is for maldy types
I can use lotus b nanami and b liv?

Use 3 Liffus

She heals enemies bruh
Where's liffu tank smh
In our dreams
Should I SSS+ her or SS Arclight first
Why Character in pgr stucks to specific role only smh
S+ to unlock segs
s+ lux is useless
get her to ss and stop
Would rather get liv tank frame than another alpha frame
ishmael: "and i took that personally"
Least priority, ss is the useful part of her
Arclight only needs S rank too
It would be better for you to get other characters ranks up instead
Bruh why did I grind for her then
Cause you love Liv?
did you ask us?
Idk you tell us

You really know something bad is bound to happen when you see me typing
-# edited
No 
yea so why are you surprised 
Cause he likes being surprised
No, I was just asking myself smh
I mean something bad is always gonna happens in life

s+ lux > feral tho 
Yeah why make it much worser than before
Trolling
Bonk
I mean to be fair, It's all for segs
Sentenced to #💬・pgr-general for 30 minutes

just ditch lightning and wait nanaknight?
skip everything bruh
wait till eos
Bet
we might get an alpha frame before eos as parting shot
Ew
help I hope I dont jinx it
I hope you did
last minute cash in on their beloved cashcow?
I just realized we can use the standard selector for ishmael incase one does not have enough BC
maybe a last ditch effort
what's her memory set effect again?
it's v1 beta 
That's why I hope there is a change
That's not a solid plan













