📨・meta-help

[zenith thorn]

being a helper in a discord server is hardly an achievement

[upper egret]

only thing I know is 10k% on ult

[dapper skiff]

Fr fr

Time to retire

[digital moat]

I just saw Ishmael gameplay and she kisses balls then throws balls

[dapper skiff]

Balls??!!??!!

[distant wren]

She kisses what

[digital moat]

balls

[rose yew]

she cracks the ball

[digital moat]

Nutcracker

[somber axle]

I thought she was biting them

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[distant wren]

She bites it, even

[digital moat]

Oh so she eats balls

[glossy forge]

oh I walked into downbad-help

[upper egret]

even better

[digital moat]

Ishmael pls end this goonfest

[upper egret]

ILOST

[glossy forge]

Ishmael, twist their balls

[digital moat]

[glossy forge]

[shadow holly]

it's just some zaza with Empy
Guin is just 5 heal ticks so if a healer has 2 heals you need to use both QTEs to get 6 heals to proc in one QTE
if only healer qte then it's 4

[raw swift]

[dapper skiff]

[digital moat]

Ishmael send these gooners to goon a date with an actual human

[rose yew]

ew 3d

[zenith thorn]

ew 3d
i prefer my girl 5d

[raw swift]

i should make a ishmael gif

[jaunty beacon]

...

[digital moat]

That's it I'm making brs 1 dimensional

[dapper skiff]

Make it do the balls

[opaque ridge]

can someone tell me when my dl is done in stream?

[digital moat]

Have fun with your black rock spagetti

[grand jay]

Mine is close to done

[raw swift]

bite and then switch to jojo

[upper egret]

peak

[dapper skiff]

[grand jay]

10% left

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-honkai-star-rail-hsr-vrchat-gif-9812522225836500095

[woven haven]

so 3 hours then

[ashen edge]

[grand jay]

Actually no I'm literally almost xone

[distant wren]

Empress already practicing wz lol

[quartz dove]

so hows our new qte bot

[grand jay]

Let me see this through then log in

[dapper skiff]

Do you know what Ishmael do to the balls?

[grand jay]

500MB left

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

better qte bot than capri
otherwise nothing else she’s just void tank and amp

[ashen edge]

[woven haven]

the way ishmael works means we’re never getting the third void slot filled

[quartz dove]

ez skip then

[woven haven]

she can’t shred or buff void

[woven haven]

Nah

[raw swift]

she brick herself

[quartz dove]

why i have to pull capri but void

[restive grove]

wata unskippable fr

[woven haven]

She’s omni elemental tank/amp

[grand jay]

Damn no Von Negut any time soon 💔

[turbid bridge]

Brickmael

[raw swift]

need tank/amp of one element

[woven haven]

i mean better qte bot than capri for dark u idiot

[raw swift]

but void don't have tank/amp

[woven haven]

she can’t even shred/buff void

she has 4 options
ice dark fire lightning

[raw swift]

megabrick

[woven haven]

need luna to convert it for her

back to void shred/amp

[quartz dove]

so they create dendro for pgr ?/

[woven haven]

no

[dapper skiff]

[raw swift]

oh yeah luna exist

[quartz dove]

[raw swift]

so not the end of ishmael yet

[woven haven]

If there is only 1 Elemental Tank in team, Ishmael will be the Amp of the same element
If there is only 1 Elemental Amp in team, Ishmael will be the Tank of the same element

Ishmael buffs and debuffs

Tank:
-20% EDR class passive as usual
15% base shred
Sig +10% shred
SS3 +10% shred
SSS +10% shred, swap CD -3s

Amp:
On Swap, +10% atk and 10% corresponding element for 10s
Heal buff 10% at base
Sig +10% Heal buff
SSS double amplifier class passive effect

[carmine reef]

if you did a team of luna/ishmael/alisa then what element would ishmael be

[woven haven]

buff invalid

[carmine reef]

lol

[woven haven]

so literally no buff at all

[spiral merlin]

Ohh haha

[carmine reef]

very cool

[woven haven]

it has to be elemental tank or amp

and only 1 allowed btw

[spiral merlin]

So that’s how they’re making her required

[woven haven]

you can’t run 2 tanks or 2 amps or 1 tank 1 amp

[raw swift]

ok so, king engine in team

[woven haven]

only 1 tank or amp is allowed to let ishmael become the other

[carmine reef]

so would she just be functionally an attacker in this situation

[woven haven]

yes

[carmine reef]

lol

[woven haven]

without the attacker class bonus too

[quartz dove]

can she proc 4 guin ?

[raw swift]

king engine in team, ishmael becomes fire amp, needs luna to convert fire buff/shred into void damage buff/shred

[turbid bridge]

[woven haven]

qte 1 heal proc
but has heal domain for 12s on ult

[woven haven]

correct

basically can’t skip luna or nanami yet

[wispy robin]

her weap reso feels like her biggest selling point

[quartz dove]

so she cant aite dark doomed pack it up folk

[dapper skiff]

Hahahaha hahahahahaha

Hahaha

[woven haven]

Oh yeah forgot to mention she’s r3 required

[carmine reef]

HUH

[woven haven]

she has both tank and healer resos

[turbid bridge]

Plus her field heal is tied to sig mem too?

[woven haven]

what do you think that means

[quartz dove]

u cant be serious

[raw swift]

unless your tank can hold something

[carmine reef]

ok but theoretically

[restive grove]

ok time to skip im too poor

[woven haven]

yes sig mem
so qte bot isn’t 4guinable

[quartz dove]

this is madness

[carmine reef]

you wouldn't need r3 if you had resos on whoever the third slot was

[turbid bridge]

Actually useless

Except for void

[ashen edge]

ye tied to sig mem

[quartz dove]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-gif-27239766

[woven haven]

she’s a better qte bot for dark than capri that’s it
still no 4guin but doesn’t need sig mem for qte at least

[carmine reef]

so qte bot ishmael is also crippled for guin

[quartz dove]

aite aite

[woven haven]

like that is at least something

[quartz dove]

is she free ?

[woven haven]

no

[carmine reef]

no

[raw swift]

an anniv unit that wasn't free

[quartz dove]

https://tenor.com/view/tywin-lannister-stupidity-and-madness-gif-25477127

[carmine reef]

am i being pessimistic or is this starting to sound worse than she could have been

[woven haven]

but lilith may be gen3 amp next patch so who knows how ishmael compares

could buff gen3 amp numbers and now ishmael is just void again

[woven haven]

[dapper skiff]

The stove turned itself off after they realized what Kuro cooks

[quartz dove]

no man they cooking nasi aking right now for price of nasi rendang

[woven haven]

CUB is +15% atk buff

[carmine reef]

like her gains sound minimal enough that she might just be immediately powercrept out of all the many use cases we're thinking of for her

[raw swift]

wait

[woven haven]

yeah ngl that’s a little low

[ashen edge]

her cub is kinda

[raw swift]

which means

[ashen edge]

underwhelming CUB lmao

[quartz dove]

cub ez skip shes qte bot

[woven haven]

its actually a really meh cub

[wispy robin]

nah she def gets buffed in some way

[woven haven]

definitely getting changed

[mighty tusk]

Still v1 so...

[ashen edge]

v2 gonna give her massive buff trust

[woven haven]

in the end she will just be the tank/amp of void

[carmine reef]

tank/amp of void and can't even shred/buff void

[woven haven]

the whole “she can shred/buff element” was actually a nerf

[raw swift]

her base stat or buff is locked to gen3 standards

45% shred, 3s switch cd

[woven haven]

it lets her gap fill missing units but it also prevents her from being used in void without Luna

[raw swift]

or just plain amp

[woven haven]

same

[carmine reef]

well at the very least

[quartz dove]

this is flat out silly

[woven haven]

15% base shred
10% sig
10% ss3
10% sss

[carmine reef]

luna was already the most efficient unit for newbies to pull bc of her team coverage, so this solidifies void team as the newbie friendly team

[raw swift]

if any tank does higher shred/ new amp does better buff then she's out of that team

[woven haven]

10% 10% amp at base
10% heal buff

sig buffs heal to 20%
sss buffs amp to 20%

[wispy robin]

she is basically the go to sss unit for plebs who could only afford one since she got both -3s and double amp

[woven haven]

ehhhhhhh

[glass bay]

Wtf lorian malaysian or indo

[raw swift]

is more for people to have an easier time to fill in missing members

[grand jay]

Oh they changed the ui

[woven haven]

honestly it works but like

[ashen edge]

i dont think so?

[grand jay]

Streaming rn

[quartz dove]

lemme guess her dmg is crap too cant kill faster than anyone

[woven haven]

its still just to cope for missing units

[carmine reef]

you know what's crazy though

[woven haven]

she has good dmg
and her ult vores the enemy

[carmine reef]

they're adding the voids to help fill in missing slots for regular ele teams, but then affix content is still even more punishing than usual about missing slots

[ashen edge]

her dmg is good but the input is kinda whacky cuz v1

[turbid bridge]

That seems to be the case as of now

[ripe stag]

Can she do affix buff/shred?

[raw swift]

only void affix

shieldbreaker

[ripe stag]

Good

[woven haven]

affix is affected by the base element’s shred and buffs

Lightning shred will also shred for ion

But it doesn’t change that the affix is still useless

without enabler

[carmine reef]

do you think she could replace feral in ion

[ripe stag]

Yea I know that
I was thinking if she was able to do affix enabler shi* it'll be too game breaking

[woven haven]

no

[carmine reef]

doomed

[ripe stag]

No

[quartz dove]

LMFAO

What she even good for

[turbid bridge]

Basically any amp/tank from their own element is better than her subbing in

[woven haven]

in ion wz

ion does 1.3x
lightning does 0.8x
other elements are 0.3x

so ishmael is worse than feral or nanami here

[ripe stag]

Everyone's first Target: "can she replace feral from lightning team"

[distant wren]

Oh yeah she can't cause scire is dark lol

[turbid bridge]

Lmao

[carmine reef]

but isn't feral's dmg basically meaningless in comparison already

[woven haven]

and yeah scire is dark so ishmael buffs dark

So

[carmine reef]

oh shet

[ripe stag]

But you need the buff

[woven haven]

the whole idea goes down the drain

[flat heath]

Ishmael animations are gonna make me explode

[ashen edge]

buff based on main element not affix itself

[carmine reef]

right you can't target the affix element

[woven haven]

Yeah so ishmael is just void slot for a developed account

[quartz dove]

Cant shred for void and worse than all amp except the duo useless wgaa

Reverse creep ?

[woven haven]

nothing else

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

nah this is balanced

[wispy robin]

the most huge part of beta so far is that you can now choose your starting animation char regardless of who you start with
i'm tired from ayla intro already

[dapper skiff]

Noway

[flat heath]

YAY

[distant wren]

But ishmael might work as amp for a potential glaciation team with wanshi tho, maybe

[restive grove]

[quartz dove]

I can have bianca starter omg

[carmine reef]

lowkey i'm going to cope and tell myself she can replace capri entirely bc i really don't want to keep investing in capri

[ripe stag]

So for the common question "She can replace feral from lightning team?"
What's the answer

[quartz dove]

[lethal sun]

ABSOLUTELY REVOLUTIONARY GACHA FEATURE FROM KURO GAMES

DEVS LISTENED

[spiral merlin]

you can?? Finally??

[lethal sun]

🗣️🔥

[raw swift]

what about teddy?

[sly geyser]

I mean since in PPC we instead see the boss intro that's kinda useless

[quartz dove]

Eos avoided ?

[raw swift]

if teddy in team ishmael become dark tank, not void tank?

[remote pier]

Solitary dream skin haver rejoicing

[raw swift]

bricked

[opaque ridge]

no UI soon

[dapper skiff]

For CN that's it

For global it's inevitable

It's a canon event

[turbid bridge]

Can’t proc 4 Guin, feral better

[ripe stag]

MOBILE???

[lethal sun]

Nice bc bozo

[carmine reef]

oh yeah wait completely niche scenario but would ishmael treat a support as an amp

[opaque ridge]

[dapper skiff]

Lol

[ashen edge]

[dapper skiff]

Morning jeremey

Or afternoon

[lethal sun]

Ur my legend jeremey

[dapper skiff]

[distant wren]

Can at least replace ayla and crapi tho

[lusty tendon]

[ripe stag]

Hello pookie

[lethal sun]

Bro it’s like 5:30 am for u

What u doing

[turbid bridge]

Yes

[ripe stag]

Who

[lethal sun]

Jere

[lusty tendon]

running down warzone then going to work, fell asleep before reset last night

[opaque ridge]

she has tank/support wep resos altogether

[lethal sun]

[turbid bridge]

The core description does include amplifier and support

[carmine reef]

but those two are voucherable and ishmael is not so maybe not even replacing them

[opaque ridge]

what is kuro cooking

[distant wren]

Just stop being f2ps smh

[deft apex]

wat this?

[woven haven]

as a qte bot not really

[dapper skiff]

The stove

[quartz dove]

The entire kitchen is burning

[shrewd vale]

[flat heath]

WHAT IS ISHMAEL NOT GOOD 😭

[wanton cradle]

Man…hope they change her kit…its still beta tho, we have a chance!

[flat heath]

prayge

[carmine reef]

i mean, capri whatever cause locked to 4sera but sss ayla should be better qte bot for ice still

[wanton cradle]

Prayge

[sly geyser]

UI style

[lethal sun]

It’s because she has a galaxy ult, cursed just like crapi

Don’t blame me guys

Goodbye

[quartz dove]

If shes trash thats good cus surely its mean for the first time in history of pgr u can skip unit

[remote pier]

[deft apex]

"first time"

just another skip for many

[woven haven]

she’s just void amp and void tank in one

[deft apex]

clueless~1

[woven haven]

the rest of her kit isn’t besting existing meta units

[shrewd vale]

tfw current patch in glb you can skip

[wispy robin]

she is just r3 bait

[ripe stag]

Thank you for saying this

[lethal sun]

Is she S+ bait?

[ripe stag]

Now I'll go paste what you said to my friends group chat

[woven haven]

you guys were expecting powercreep or smth

but really a full account only uses ishmael in void

[glass bay]

Im expecting mommy

[sly geyser]

powercreep ? she's the first of her kind lol

[woven haven]

the restrictions are enough to restrict powercreep

[deft apex]

i'm expecting they remove yellow hair tips, ugly af

[woven haven]

she can still shred/amp every elemental dmg type except void

[glass bay]

They fk nerfed her personality

[flat heath]

but I dont wanna skip her

[glass bay]

This is the only problem I have

[flat heath]

make anyone else trash

[woven haven]

its useful for filling gaps in your account with a universal qte bot

[dapper skiff]

They turned mommy Ishmael to auntie Ishmael

[woven haven]

but not usable as a subdps off elementing

[opaque ridge]

i dont like the hair braiding

[ripe stag]

I was waiting for someone to say what you just said kek

Cuz the 3 friends who play PGR in my friend group were continuously saying "sucks to a feral user huh? Finally a good amplifier for lightning team"

Now I'll paste what you said

[opaque ridge]

hair down pls

[deft apex]

different eyes, different hair
wtf happened to my hot 2D woman

[lethal sun]

Being picky

[ripe stag]

[sly geyser]

still the same as existing tanks/amps. right?

[shrewd vale]

arguably better

[woven haven]

she’s worse than feral lmao
1 heal proc

Nanami is still doing majority of the dmg

[ripe stag]

She went from MOMMY GODDESS
to
Mash Kyrielight Alter

[woven haven]

you won’t even field ishmael

other than as a deer pet proc user

[wanton cradle]

Wait fr???

[quartz dove]

Shes only better than capri which is hillarious

[glass bay]

I actually don't care about powercreep why they nerfed her personality

[woven haven]

and feral is better at that

[ripe stag]

So she can't proc 4 guin unlike Feral

[opaque ridge]

what personality?

[woven haven]

As lightning amp i mean

[sly geyser]

she's subject to change anyways

[ripe stag]

And if you are swapping
Capri SSS better cuz dark damage still

[quartz dove]

Her chest is smaller in 3d model ?

[deft apex]

fr
she's just void amp/tank as expected

[woven haven]

Ishmael meta spot is void amp/tank still

but if you expect to use her outside of it you’ve got another thing coming

[wanton cradle]

So like, how worth is ishmael for a f2p at the end of the day? ( as of current beta )

[ripe stag]

Wait
So what's the team then?

[quartz dove]

Doomed

[ripe stag]

Ishmael, Oblivion, Epitaph/SSS Wanshi?

[woven haven]

Lets you fill any gaps in your account with a qte bot that can correspond to the buff you need

And fills the amp slot in void as of right now

[livid lark]

is ishmael a void omniclass between tank/amp?

[ripe stag]

She's the amp for void team
Ofc must pull

[glass bay]

Smaller

[dusky quarry]

What about dmg wise

[woven haven]

Ishmael + Luna + Wanshi/Nanami/Wata (ideally tank is sss)

[grand jay]

Hmmm

[woven haven]

void tank and amp who doesn’t buff or shred void but the other 4 elemental types

[woven haven]

good for void wz and ppc

[spiral merlin]

For most people it’ll probably be wanshi sss

[wanton cradle]

SSS Wanshi or SSS Wata or Ss3 Nanaknight?

[woven haven]

she has the same shieldbreak bonus as luna

[livid lark]

interesting...

[deft apex]

so how is she void specific amp/tank?

[ripe stag]

If your team has Attacker and Amplifier and no Tank - She'll be the Tank
If your team has Attacker and Tank and no Amplifier - She'll be the Amplifier

[spiral merlin]

Oh wait ishamel sss probably negates need for wanshi

[woven haven]

Then SSS Wata here

[ripe stag]

Wait
She can't buff or shred void ?

[grand jay]

Yeah you don't want to use Guin on Ishmael

[spiral merlin]

Luna required

[woven haven]

no if you’re amp slot Ishmael she has no -3s swap cd

[grand jay]

It's 1 HP tick

[spiral merlin]

Oh

[dusky quarry]

She still has a niche in tho which she can be used as dmg dealer

[ripe stag]

Lmao WHAT EVEN IS VOID TEAM NOW

[spiral merlin]

Damn

[dusky quarry]

Good to know

[turbid bridge]

If void Luna can solo PPC then isn’t Ishmael worse than Feral/Empy as amp

[woven haven]

yeah but not outside void cuz -79% off element

[quartz dove]

Thats it im making zzz account and pulling burnice

[sly geyser]

what's kuro cooking with the whole void thing ?

[woven haven]

they added a new boss and void affix to super ppc
expect bloated HP counts to make dual dps

[deft apex]

let them COOK

[dusky quarry]

Luna can finally be swapped without losing void shield break

[glass bay]

Smart choice

[distant wren]

Can't be 100% sure abt that, crapi dmg is dogsht after all, who knows if it can even be better than off ele ishmael

[quartz dove]

What dual dps

[turbid bridge]

Ah okay

[dusky quarry]

I mean she's void, was expected

[quartz dove]

[sly geyser]

gonna wait until the 3rd class to find out

[wispy robin]

i just hope she can be good enough replacement for empy so i won't need to pull her

[quartz dove]

There is only luna as void dps

[livid lark]

i mean... a void amp/tank doesn't exist yet
it's fair that they're doing this
im guessing the next unit can be an observer class as well

[woven haven]

she shreds/buffs ice, fire, lightning or dark based on the other tank/amp

needs luna to convert it back to void

[quartz dove]

Lilith dark observer

[dusky quarry]

Dominik

[wanton cradle]

A rank void tank

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

no cuz if you have 2 observers they do nothing

[livid lark]

wait really?

[ripe stag]

Lee Hyperreal thinking why commandant is missing

• Commandant: "Woah so you are the one who thought Lee his moveset"

[woven haven]

Ishmael specifically needs exactly 1 tank or amp on team

[sly geyser]

nah I think kuro will invent another new class to fill up the void team

[livid lark]

oh alright

[raw swift]

context?

[livid lark]

so it's unique to all of PGR

not following standard team comps

[ripe stag]

Her animations kinda reminding me of Hyperreal's

[dusky quarry]

Ishmael it's a universal qte bot except for phys

[raw swift]

oo ok

[livid lark]

phys shafted again lmao

[rocky valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1290049114540740680.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[sly geyser]

phys is doing fine anyway

right?

[wanton cradle]

A small price to pay for trueslash

[dusky quarry]

And can be used as dmg dealer in her element

[ripe stag]

Also her entry is a mix of Projection boss's entry + Elysia's floating pose

[remote pier]

Phys always the odd one

[sly geyser]

[wispy robin]

if you are pleb newface an all your amps are base s ranks with no sigs then ish with resos prolly gonna easily replace all of them though

[ripe stag]

[dusky quarry]

Peak

Peakgr

[livid lark]

ishmael alone is alr huge spoiler

[woven haven]

pretty much

[livid lark]

if you haven't read spiral of chronos

[sly geyser]

come to think of I didn't see Ishmael healing

[ripe stag]

Exactly

[dusky quarry]

Need to check if her ult is a nuke or a puke

[deft apex]

omni tank/amp for new players, void for old ones

[rugged cloud]

[livid lark]

qte bot

[quartz dove]

So new player can keep up with ishmael

[sly geyser]

@woven haven does Ishmael heal her allies ?

[ripe stag]

OH SO

[deft apex]

better than nothing

[ripe stag]

In ult form
She's basically Void Projection

[quartz dove]

She does but cant proc 4 guin

[ripe stag]

[sly geyser]

if not then how can she replace amps ??

[ripe stag]

WOAH

[dusky quarry]

Pretty much

[grand jay]

My intrusive thoughts are telling me to make Ishmael hold DV

[ripe stag]

You can actually see the similarities

[woven haven]

yes if amp mode

[livid lark]

i would say she's half cos she keeps her human form while doing her divine form moves

[ripe stag]

She even gets the body of void projection

[grand jay]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-tongue-flight-flight-reacts-excited-gif-17057509

[woven haven]

Amp mode ishmael will heal on QTE

[dusky quarry]

Litterally all of lore nerds got debunked

[wispy robin]

would ish replace sss cw in lightning though

[remote pier]

She's a paid unit so skippable

[dusky quarry]

"projection isn't Ishmael"

[deft apex]

she attacks with her projections LMAO

[ripe stag]

Kek

Like
Her entire kit is a big Spiral of Chronos spoiler

[sly geyser]

oh i see, but I think it's like Ayla? not enough heal to proc 4 guin

[dusky quarry]

True lmao

[ripe stag]

[opaque ridge]

[deft apex]

this is pretty cool

[woven haven]

yes

[opaque ridge]

holyshit u can choose what entry/ending animation this patch

[wanton cradle]

Powerpuff girls

[rugged cloud]

yea
that't what ppl were discussing

[dusky quarry]

I hope..... Her soundtrack it's under dimension remixed

[sly geyser]

so Ishmael is just Ayla but void

[upper egret]

isn't ish tank better than amp for void lol

[dusky quarry]

Luna, Ishmael and teddy for void

[wispy robin]

depends if she do more dmg than wata on swap

[ripe stag]

New players: "Woah WHAT A BEAUTIFUL COMBAT ANIMATION"
veterans: insane PTSD intensifies when they see Ishmael turn into Projection in ult form

[opaque ridge]

they keep adding characters but our team preset is still the same

kuro why

[raw swift]

no amp buff

lol

[dusky quarry]

It's good or bad?

[ripe stag]

Ishmael looks too much like Mash Kyrielight Alter now

[livid lark]

i mean we're playing a divine form so im pretty sure people are going to be excited

[raw swift]

actually

[dusky quarry]

I know

[upper egret]

she definitely has to do more since she's actually doing void dmg unlike wata who's getting off-ele'd lol

[deft apex]

how many team preset in cn btw?

[raw swift]

shield breaking from teddy worth sacrificing amp buff?

[opaque ridge]

not enough

[wanton cradle]

Wait what does ish’s class do?

[deft apex]

surely at least 11 right clueless~1

[livid lark]

can swap between void tank and amp

but can only take 1 at any one time

[sly geyser]

who that ? a character from another game ?

[ripe stag]

For 1 wave per 4 waves too that is

[dusky quarry]

Unless Lilith will be A-rank void tank

[ripe stag]

FGO

[dusky quarry]

[wanton cradle]

Is that like, switched on ult or before you start the fight?

[sly geyser]

oh

[wispy robin]

you could prolly run sss wanshi for -3s and then swap between luna and ish then

[sly geyser]

[livid lark]

that im not too sure but the effect is part of her class

[upper egret]

ishmael tank has -3s swap cd

[wispy robin]

yea but it's whale only

[sly geyser]

we will wait until eos to see an A rank void unit

[quartz dove]

Wait so u want amp + ishmael + luna in void ?

[upper egret]

2024 pgr is minimum sss for human rights get with the times old man

[rugged cloud]

If your team has amp, she tanks
and the other way around

[livid lark]

ishmael currently being the amp

[ripe stag]

ARE YOU KIDDING WITH ME

[rugged cloud]

[ripe stag]

Alexa!
How to turn into a ball

[distant wren]

Just to add, it's tank or amp who deals void but buffs/debuffs based on the other tank/amp in the team

[wanton cradle]

Beta and still beautiful ahh animations

[turbid bridge]

Not if Wata or Nanaknight has higher DPS

[ripe stag]

ALEXA!
HOW TO TURN INTO A MARBLE BALL

[woven haven]

only if there’s 1 tank or amp btw

[rugged cloud]

[ripe stag]

[dusky quarry]

The hands is the same as projection

[woven haven]

if there’s multiple she just becomes no buff

[livid lark]

ahh ok

[rugged cloud]

[sly geyser]

she's just calmly eating some candy while fighting

[dapper skiff]

*balls

[ripe stag]

That candy being the enemy

[dusky quarry]

She can still be a tank in Void

[distant wren]

Phys not allowed btw

[dusky quarry]

She's Majin buu

Turn opponents into candy

[dapper skiff]

No phys zone

Only the elemental bros

[livid lark]

yes im well aware
also went to bili to confirm

[wanton cradle]

I want her to kick me ||like she does in the projection fight||

[dusky quarry]

I think for Ishmael ppl would just accept any buff they give to her

[quartz dove]

Just erase phys already

[wispy robin]

wtf commandant finally got an actual gender

[quartz dove]

[dusky quarry]

Yes

[rugged cloud]

Key gender?

[dapper skiff]

Where's my attack helicopter

[dusky quarry]

I identify as a key ||staff||

[dapper skiff]

Master lock gender

[upper egret]

at the mental asylum

[hidden forum]

Hope no one starts complaining for a third gender

[sly geyser]

for me commandant is m*le

[rugged cloud]

can be opened with master lock

[sly geyser]

[deft apex]

it's still funny she can ATTACK with her dodge

[upper egret]

lmao don't open twitter

[ripe stag]

SHE ACTUALLY DOES THE VOID PROJECTIONS'S KICK SLAM

[hidden forum]

[distant wren]

Tbf while it's funny she can't proc 4guin, I think it's fine if we just think of her as another void dps instead of that other sht lol

[dusky quarry]

You opened Pandora

[dapper skiff]

And reddit

[upper egret]

real

[remote pier]

I identify as a f2p

[dusky quarry]

Say it on Xitter

[wanton cradle]

Gah dayum, kick ME like that

[dusky quarry]

[hidden forum]

[dapper skiff]

F2p is a mindset

[quartz dove]

[ripe stag]

Nah man
I'm turning myself into a marble ball

[sly geyser]

I identify as an observer

[wanton cradle]

Youre the mable and in the enemy, deal?

[dusky quarry]

Changli grew up a lot

[sly geyser]

why there's no observer gender

[quartz dove]

Her chest is smaller actually

[ripe stag]

So no leap

[remote pier]

[ripe stag]

And why I feel like she'll not be free
Or is she ?

[quartz dove]

Nice joke

[remote pier]

Not free

[distant wren]

Not free

[livid lark]

pretty sure she's gacha

[hidden forum]

L

[sly geyser]

I cope that she's free

[quartz dove]

Kuro hate us now

[upper egret]

how do we tell him

[sly geyser]

[upper egret]

we're in the scam era now

[quartz dove]

No more time to save

[dapper skiff]

When they don't

[sly geyser]

and after that Lilith in all her glory

[remote pier]

Imagine swiping for an inferior r3 needed replacement in elemental team

[dapper skiff]

[wanton cradle]

They dont do that one free s rank every 7 patches or so?

But we just had wanshi sooooo

[sly geyser]

we can cope for an event

[upper egret]

doesn't matter when we start having multiple S ranks in a row with barely one saving patch

[sly geyser]

like that wuwa character

[wanton cradle]

Fair

[upper egret]

that's before even considering that sigs/cubs are practically mandatory now lmaoo

[sly geyser]

ngl we need more cub tickets

[wanton cradle]

Scrap the old sigs fir the new problem solved

[sly geyser]

and cub skins when ?

[remote pier]

[upper egret]

[sly geyser]

[wanton cradle]

Hyperlee aint ton use that since lucia came

[hidden forum]

Cub gacha skins

Let kuro cook

[remote pier]

K whel

[dapper skiff]

[hidden forum]

f2p

[quartz dove]

Surely there is enough natural bc source to get ishmael for free

[upper egret]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[wanton cradle]

Nanaknight and ishmael one after another, deadge

[ripe stag]

Her 3D model looks like edgy HoHE

[remote pier]

Lmao natural bc. It's not like you can mine bc

[dapper skiff]

💳 is natural enough for you

Definitely enough tbh

[wispy robin]

how am i going to get another extra 15k in just 5 patches now though

[upper egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1075794777653649498/LivSwipe.gif

[sly geyser]

swipe

[wispy robin]

time to skip every sig

[quartz dove]

Its fine

[remote pier]

Real question is, can she solo

[quartz dove]

Ofc not

[hidden forum]

[ripe stag]

I don't think Ishmael patch will be free.
Cuz if she's free, it'll be big loss for Kuro

[ripe stag]

Ofc not

[sly geyser]

no

[dapper skiff]

Just accept that f2p already extinct

[ripe stag]

She's not alpha

[dapper skiff]

Time to swipe

[opaque ridge]

have my key

[ripe stag]

Take me to your country

[sly geyser]

ngl Ishmael ez skip

[remote pier]

Okay she's paking useless

[dapper skiff]

Mentioning "f*p" is a crime now

[upper egret]

f2ps were dead long ago, now we're moving into the forced to skip era

[dapper skiff]

Omay

[hidden forum]

f*p

[dapper skiff]

That sounded SO BAD

[hidden forum]

[dapper skiff]

I'm out

[woven haven]

needs luna

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-23132490

[woven haven]

otherwise she can’t even shred of buff void

[deft apex]

livwhat

[remote pier]

[hidden forum]

Gonna save this for the future

[shrewd vale]

crazy that a void unit needs a void unit to work

[quartz dove]

[spiral merlin]

Wtf happens to void memories

[remote pier]

Voided

[spiral merlin]

Elem 4pc? dv? eins? guin?

[ripe stag]

No void generic memory

[spiral merlin]

Whaduhell

[ripe stag]

We got generic Ionization memory set before void

[spiral merlin]

I don't think void is going to ever get one

I'm talking like the 3rd void slot mems

[ripe stag]

3rd ?

[spiral merlin]

As in Luna ishmael and whoever else

Tank amp whatever

[ripe stag]

Luna is 4 Cottie 4 Sig memo
Ishmael is 4 idk

[spiral merlin]

4sig 4something

[ripe stag]

I think it'll depend on investment

[livid lark]

so the 2 unique and kinda shafted elements(or attribute if physical) are physical and void lmao

[spiral merlin]

What if all same invest💀

[ripe stag]

True Slash and Void shafted

[sly geyser]

4 sig 2 ein 2 guin

[dapper skiff]

Only time can tell

[woven haven]

people really screaming powercreep or useless when ishmael is just what she needs to be

void amp for luna with extra gimmicks and good dmg

[dapper skiff]

[daring vapor]

2 cottie 2 ein because seems like she can'

[ripe stag]

Then I guess better just run Ishmael as Void tank instead of amp? And run an amp as dv guin ?

[woven haven]

there’s like nothing else much

[daring vapor]

t w/o cottie

[spiral merlin]

Rip to 4pc elem set

[ripe stag]

If same invest for everyone
What's the plan ?

[quartz dove]

Fancy qte bot that need sss r3 and not even free

[livid lark]

it's still beta dude cmon

[upper egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1183386520938364948.gif

[opaque ridge]

i thought ishmael was gonna be hard to learn

but all im doing is pressing dodge

[ripe stag]

You can atleast predict a bit

[upper egret]

from what I saw she's omega braindead kit-wise

[livid lark]

we got 1 year+ and however long this beta lasts

[ripe stag]

Her basic is dodge kek ?

[dapper skiff]

Well i had hard time

[opaque ridge]

her combo comes from tapping dodge and holding dodge

[hidden forum]

[ripe stag]

Hope global EoS before that

[upper egret]

the real challenge playing ishmael if gonna be sticky keys if you use shift for dodge

[ripe stag]

She took CW's "dodge to enable rot" way too seriously

[opaque ridge]

NOOOOO

[dapper skiff]

We all don't deserve all of this after all these global "plannings"

[opaque ridge]

i just had the best chance to take a screenshot but i missed it

[dapper skiff]

[hidden forum]

Should’ve recorded

[opaque ridge]

DAMMIT

[quartz dove]

Its fine

[opaque ridge]

so close

[quartz dove]

I understand why other keep winning and kuro keep losing

[ashen edge]

smh L

[turbid bridge]

Dude just wants to survive 😂

[upper egret]

nah id survive

[glass bay]

Is that why u stopped swiping

[dapper skiff]

😔

Lorian actually going f2p

I can't

It's Kurover

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814602336340148262/1288089149554950144/vidu-high-performance--4-2024-09-20T20_31_30Z.gif

[quartz dove]

[opaque ridge]

you're welcome

[ripe stag]

Let's see if Ishmael is free or not
Depending on that
I'll start swiping Mpass A every month or so

[dapper skiff]

The game gonna eos sooner without his big bucks

[grand jay]

Yeah it's as Altera says

[ripe stag]

Kiara Sessyoin

[grand jay]

There's like 2 combos she has in both forms

[opaque ridge]

[grand jay]

You wanna spam the dodge one in her ult to proc both

[dapper skiff]

She surely eats a lot

Fatass

[remote pier]

🤏🪩

[ripe stag]

Truly Heaven's Hole moment

[upper egret]

those are my b-

[hidden forum]

[grand jay]

But you'll run out of gauge if you don't optimise the rot

[hidden forum]

Nice number

[opaque ridge]

thats the point

took forever to replicate that number

[ripe stag]

She about to say "Amidi Amidala, Heaven's Hole"

[opaque ridge]

@rapid tapir

[woven haven]

Shujou Muhen Seigandou

[ashen edge]

zamn ackchan

[opaque ridge]

i see you

okay so void wz setup is now

nanaknight holds 4 heisen 4 sig

[spiral merlin]

Hm

[opaque ridge]

who the hell holds dv

[quartz dove]

Ishmael ?

[opaque ridge]

she cant

shes holding eins

[spiral merlin]

This is what I'm wondering 💀

[ashen edge]

💀 literally

so no dv in void?

[livid lark]

i wonder if this is going to be another capri moment

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[opaque ridge]

yeah ok, shes gonna get buffed so much from gut feeling

[livid lark]

selena capriccio 2: electric boogaloo

[opaque ridge]

memory set doesnt allow leeway

[spiral merlin]

I'm watching ss gameplay she seems underwhelming

But that's normal watch her be insanely broken in live

[upper egret]

still first beta

plus ppl still haven't optimized rots etc

[opaque ridge]

u literally cant build her without her sig memory

[ripe stag]

intense sounds intensifies

[opaque ridge]

she gains no stacks without it

[quartz dove]

Need to deal dps on par with luna

[livid lark]

ok that's worrysome

[lethal sun]

Give me CN beta I’ll rank 1 wz @opaque ridge

[opaque ridge]

her sig memory is literally her kit

[livid lark]

[opaque ridge]

sure, get in my truck

[lethal sun]

Say less

[opaque ridge]

i'll isekai u to pgr

[ripe stag]

Kit locked to memory
Nanamech 2.0 ?

[upper egret]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[livid lark]

like i said, capriccio 2: electric boogaloo

im calling it now if they keep it like this until live

[upper egret]

not crappi again

[opaque ridge]

she needs 4sig memory

no one can hold dv now

[livid lark]

plus she's an amp

[opaque ridge]

void bricked

[quartz dove]

Doomed

[livid lark]

and you know how amps are when they can't hold 4 guin 4 dv

[spiral merlin]

Sig mem was always going to be fixed on her tho

[opaque ridge]

this is a big mess

[upper egret]

not necessarily

[opaque ridge]

ok im done with beta

back to osrs wasted my excitement

[quartz dove]

Vonnegut back gonna break with all this burden form if he become void tank

[livid lark]

you got to gwd yet?

[opaque ridge]

gwd?

[livid lark]

god wars dungeon

[opaque ridge]

no, i dont even have firecape yet

[livid lark]

oh sadge ok fair enuf

just did 20 KC on barrows on sunday

[opaque ridge]

but yeah, geez what a disappointment ishmael is

[upper egret]

still first beta

[woven haven]

she's just void amp that's all

[opaque ridge]

i want my excitement back

[woven haven]

the extra stuff doesn't matter for developed accounts

its just for cope substituting

[opaque ridge]

they either have to make her hit as hard as luna

[ripe stag]

Wait
Can't she be void tank ?

[opaque ridge]

or they have to make changes to her memory

[livid lark]

i think if you have a developed account there are better options

[opaque ridge]

otherwise void team will be like lightning before nanami

[ripe stag]

Like comparing SS0 R1 sig Epitaph to SS0 R1 sig Ishmael

[quartz dove]

Its kurover

[opaque ridge]

r1 ishmael?

[ripe stag]

I mean she does void damage so there's a buff no ?

[opaque ridge]

r3 or bust

[quartz dove]

R1 ishamel LMFAO

[woven haven]

she can but like

[hidden forum]

[quartz dove]

[opaque ridge]

she needs 8%/10% buff and DLT

[woven haven]

it just means dv slaving

[opaque ridge]

no orbs, no combo

[ripe stag]

Lmao TF

[woven haven]

the other unit

[grand jay]

You need R3 for this character

[quartz dove]

They pull hi3 on us

[livid lark]

ok so the first beta is extremely scuffed

[quartz dove]

[livid lark]

let's hope they don't pull off a capri/mech again on live

[ebon adder]

and whats that

[livid lark]

sig memo tied to kit
basically makes them very very inflexible

[dapper skiff]

Brick

[livid lark]

capriccio and nanamech suffer from this

[dusky quarry]

Cw brick swap

[opaque ridge]

oh no no, its fine if u tie kit to memory

[spiral merlin]

For being not free right after a non free unit they gotta make her way better

[opaque ridge]

but no one can use dv now

coz the tank is holding elemental set

[livid lark]

100% agree

and she's the only option available on release for void

[ripe stag]

Nah man
I'm leaving PGR if they are gonna pull HI3 on us
I'm going back to playing Elysia

[opaque ridge]

luna needs cottie like every stupid attacker

[daring vapor]

can she serve as void tank instead? so empy/feral can hold dw/guin

[dusky quarry]

If they buff her dmg, especially ult making it a nuke, she will be worth

[opaque ridge]

she can serve as a tank if u lack one

if u dont lack one, shes amp

[upper egret]

hi3 is even worse rn lmao?

[dusky quarry]

Wait, tank for every element?

[spiral merlin]

Yes

[opaque ridge]

there is no point to run her as a tank and its not efficient to build her as one coz think about the memories u have to build on her

[upper egret]

not that it excuses what kuro is pulling with pgr obviously but hi3 is a nightmare right now

[ripe stag]

I mean PGR is getting to it now

[opaque ridge]

if u build her as a tank

[dusky quarry]

Like she changes her dmg in that element or just the. Shred

[dusky quarry]

Not with the powercrept not gonna lie

[quartz dove]

Paid capri is not exactly what i want to get

[ripe stag]

Just wait till PGR starts powercreepin every 3 patches

[opaque ridge]

that means u need to slap 4p heisen/shake/bath/ect if u happen to run their respective amp

[upper egret]

yeah no it doesn't excuse where pgr is going that's not what I mean, just that as someone who played hi3 recently it's definitely still way worse by a considerable margin

[ripe stag]

[dusky quarry]

Garnet around since 2021 got powercrept last patch

[rocky wedge]

Do you guys even know of rewards in previous patches and even in ishmaels herself to be jumping to conclusions already 💀

[dusky quarry]

Doubt lol

[dapper skiff]

Nah

[quartz dove]

Nah

[dusky quarry]

Exactly that as well

[rocky wedge]

C:

[near tiger]

When's CA rework

[dapper skiff]

We only know brick and being anxious

[dusky quarry]

We don't even know what rewards we are getting

[ripe stag]

CA what

[upper egret]

Real

[livid lark]

never
CA who

[dapper skiff]

Who cares about planning

We're brick in the end anyway

[near tiger]

Bruh, so it's misinformation

[dapper skiff]

[ripe stag]

Won't it be same as other patches
That's what I'm taking into account

[near tiger]

Nawwww

[ripe stag]

Unless they buff income

[rocky wedge]

No bruh

[livid lark]

who told you that

[dapper skiff]

But actually yeah

People worried about it too much and too soon

[rocky wedge]

Tell me that when you see rewards next and in qus patch

[dusky quarry]

Income is buffed every anni/half anni

[opaque ridge]

whats the misinfo?

[dapper skiff]

This is unhealthy

[rocky wedge]

Even this brs patch has a good amount

[upper egret]

we play gachas healthy is not part of our vocabulary

[dusky quarry]

Heck even low spenders get huger income

[ripe stag]

That I won't lie

[livid lark]

im merely going by her kit
not whether or not I'll be able to afford her etc

[dusky quarry]

10 pulls just from events

[opaque ridge]

brs good amount coz its a saving patch

[ripe stag]

Well

[near tiger]

Some random dude on fb

[ripe stag]

Im not that tensed

[upper egret]

LMAO yeah

[ripe stag]

If anything

[livid lark]

would rather not have another capri/nanamech repeat ty

[opaque ridge]

every s rank patch saving? what saving

[mighty tusk]

leap CA

[vale raft]

Lucia: Crimson Abyss

Skill - Leap

Crimson Flow

Gains 1 stack of Sword Heart when performing a 3-Ping, max 2 stacks. When there is at least 1 stack of Sword Heart, press and hold Basic Attack to consume 1 stack of Sword Heart to cast Reverse Flash, dealing 300% Physical DMG in total. Casting it outside Blade Will State will give 1 random Signal Orb and re-arrange all the existing Signal Orbs in 3-Ping order.

Level 9: The Enhanced Form of Blue Orb Pings lasts 10s instead.

Level 18: Base DMG of Reverse Flash increases by 100%.

• New Effect of [Passive - Crimson Scabbard]: Physical DMG increases for 8s instead. Yellow Orb 3-Pings will also trigger [Passive - Crimson Scabbard].

• [Passive - Crimson Scabbard] triggered by Red Orbs and Yellow Orbs do not stack.

[mighty tusk]

This one?

[livid lark]

yea just don't go there for info

[dapper skiff]

The more they think about "how am I supposed to afford all" the more likely they gonna quit before even Luna patch drop

[near tiger]

Yeh

[dusky quarry]

You are just forced to ss nanaknight instead of ss3 or plan better with your blue tickets banner

[dapper skiff]

[rocky wedge]

So I wouldn’t jump to conclusions if you haven’t even experienced the first double S patch xD
It does still suck but either way you were able to get both chars

Still nowhere near as bad as Hi3rd

[ripe stag]

Blue ticket banner going to SS3 Hanying

[quartz dove]

Sure but thats cn with longer patch day

[rocky wedge]

Hi3 is literally a luxurious gacha

[dusky quarry]

A dude from CN managed to get both Qu & Wata as f2p in cn

[mighty tusk]

Her leap makes her flashy to use, but does not do anything meta-wise

[quartz dove]

Were globlul

[autumn cliff]

How to do quests?

[quartz dove]

[rocky wedge]

Same as one in TW too

[upper egret]

This needs to be taken into account too lol

[rocky wedge]

Qus pet is also not that strong

[autumn cliff]

New player

[near tiger]

I don't even have ca

[dusky quarry]

Can you use the other ice pet?

[dapper skiff]

They just can't be told the thing, they already too freaked out to even be given any appropriate input

[dusky quarry]

I have it on Bambi

[dapper skiff]

Idk how am I supposed to help in that case

[quartz dove]

U dont

[livid lark]

CA's been dead for long alr
why would there be a rework for her when there are better options

[mighty tusk]

She's not worth having anyway so...

[quartz dove]

[upper egret]

you can use ss ayla pet for qu if you can't/won't get hers

[ripe stag]

HI3 is better than PGR in every way

• gameplay
• story
• character models
• cuz it's miHoYo
• same company as the best game in the world - Genshin Impact
• same company as the 2nd best game in the world - Zenless Zone Zero
• amazing graphics
• better optimisation

[dusky quarry]

The helper needs help

[upper egret]

it's cope but it works

[ripe stag]

[near tiger]

Ye, that's why I'm using cw

[ripe stag]

Unlimited Copypasta Works

[near tiger]

Alpha but edgier

[ripe stag]

[livid lark]

uh... no, you can't use CW for physical content

[mighty tusk]

Uh oh, ezra is gonna go...

[near tiger]

I don't even have physical team

[ripe stag]

Sorry to say this to you but
CW cannot physical

[upper egret]

here we go

[mighty tusk]

HERE WE GO

[lethal sun]

Lies, HI3 has

• no males

[ripe stag]

I have my limitations
They have a Silver wolf pfp
Not worth raging on

[dapper skiff]

Here we go again?

[near tiger]

I'm saying, I don't use ca cuz i have cw not cuz of physical/lightning

[ripe stag]

Even better no?

[livid lark]

brickistan thanks you for your contribution

[ripe stag]

Oh another one of those CW simps

[upper egret]

HERE WE GO

[ripe stag]

See what i told you @mighty tusk

[lethal sun]

That’s all u need ngl

[ripe stag]

[floral plover]

Pgr miles better fr fr
Hasn't seen all the problems on Ishmael

[shadow holly]

[dapper skiff]

So what now

[ripe stag]

What what now?

[barren plank]

Just let him play the game how he wants tbh
One less person to worry ab on leaderboards

[dapper skiff]

Getting to harassing part?

This is my favorite

[near tiger]

I mean ye, that's the reason I'm playing again

[hidden forum]

[ripe stag]

Not worth when the user has hoyo character pfp

[dapper skiff]

Can't wait

[ripe stag]

I like hoyo

[upper egret]

don't look now or you're gonna be sad, wait for the beta fixes in the next weeks

[ripe stag]

They based

[quartz dove]

Theyre winning cus their revenue is massive unlike certain game

[ripe stag]

Actually
Based

[ripe stag]

Try to SSS+ R3 her

She can offelement solo

[floral plover]

I already saw
She was supposed to make Capri go to the ditch, not join her

[quartz dove]

[upper egret]

LMFAOO
we in shambles

[barren plank]

Actually speaking of which how is Ishmael looking

[dapper skiff]

She tripped and fell off when saying bye bye to capri

[dapper skiff]

Hot

[near tiger]

Is one kidney enough

[barren plank]

Sell ur liver too

[ripe stag]

Capri bad
Capri trash
Ever thought that you still rotate to capri onfield for a while during dark rotation?

[upper egret]

definitely hot... don't ask about the gameplay part (yet, wait for beta fixes )

[ripe stag]

1 heart, 2 eyes, 2 kidneys, 2 lungs

That'll be enough

[shadow holly]

bro it's v1 beta still

nanami was horrible in v1 beta too and then she came out batsht broken

[haughty quarry]

This cant be real

[upper egret]

just use the denji strat

[dapper skiff]

Nah you're hallucinating

[livid lark]

rn she scuffed as of this beta

[dapper skiff]

Time to take the pills

[near tiger]

Unfortunately, it does

[quartz dove]

2 kurai

[ripe stag]

So
How's the game with 90% of the gamemodes being locked ?

[upper egret]

ye basically this