📨・meta-help

[digital moat]

There are many hits but idk how many

[distant wren]

ay yo don't instill that idea in him

[digital moat]

There will be someone who does it for sure

I remember seeing harmo lee in one of my brackets too

[distant wren]

pretty sure there were some ppl doing that on alisa patch lol

[digital moat]

Based

[distant wren]

harmo first b4 asking

[stuck sphinx]

2dv better

[digital moat]

Perma 10atk uptime

Okay 4dv lee 4eliz emp

[timber grove]

Funny you should say that

What is the best harmony memory for Lee anyway, 4pc cottie?

[digital moat]

Uh

Which rank

[distant wren]

did u harmo him, because it's not recommended to

[timber grove]

SS

[digital moat]

ss0 lee doesnt utilize harmo that well

[distant wren]

uhh...

[timber grove]

Everyone else is harmonized, had no one else to really utilize it

[distant wren]

4shakes lee with dlt

[signal flare]

hi! Does anyone know how to clear stronghold 10 aka Asslam stage 2 the 3rd battle? Do I just need a lot of tanks or what?

[pine slate]

Wdym

[distant wren]

I assume u only have a few sigs or S rank units then?

because harmo mats are limited

[timber grove]

A few R1 sigs, yeah

[pine slate]

Its impossible to harmonize everyone

[digital moat]

Rosetta harmo...

[pine slate]

[jaunty beacon]

Cottie dw right now. Cottie einst after wata

[mystic rune]

Customer service still won't remove my account from my email -_-

[jaunty beacon]

Not like you can use shake anyway

[distant wren]

u can with dlt
5x3p per rot

[timber grove]

Is she not recommended either?

I didn't harmo her, just asking

[digital moat]

Very niche

[jaunty beacon]

And you do no damage because of amp buff running off

[distant wren]

nope, replaced in april, also not a lot of options to harmo

[digital moat]

• powercrept soon

Well not really soon but you get it

[distant wren]

u actually could fit it in time if u dodge cancel all of the 3p
but yea very annoying even if it does work

[sand laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1284882396289962016/NEW_PGR_ROADMAP.png?ex=66fffa7b&is=66fea8fb&hm=7809edbe68881579c61041f42035c9ba6d709fd195ecadae5e1af73ec48373dd&

[wispy robin]

check the options here there is account deletion

[distant wren]

and that's an if ofc

[pine slate]

There r certain units that u should harmo first before moving onto others

[jaunty beacon]

Lol no. You can't because of the evade cd. And no time stop on ult 1

[pine slate]

Obviously all new chars want harmo

[feral pollen]

why do i have stronge urge to hug nanami very tightly

[pine slate]

But alisa, cw, feral, empy harmos r important too

Ur prio order depends on what u wanna achieve

[jaunty beacon]

And tank shred too

[sand laurel]

honestly I'm most excited for Luna and Hanying

[pine slate]

Tanks need harmo later on too

[feral pollen]

[timber grove]

Out of the 6* weapons I do own they're mostly on damage dealers, haven't had the spare funds to go for a lot of the amplifier 6* yet unfortunately

[patent pollen]

Which character's inver-shards should I focus on ?

[pine slate]

Save for future unit harmos then

Dont harmo units that wont benefit much

[distant wren]

but I actually unequiped cottie to try it earlier today tho and it did seem to fit in time
because I only dodge cancelled 3x3p in hypermatrix, the 4th one cancelled with ult1, 5th one used after ult1, cancelled with ult2
needs more testing to be sure tho ofc

[jaunty beacon]

Ok now do it 4 times in a run 🤡

[timber grove]

I won't, not like I have much to atm

Just for the sake of powercreep, I'm assuming getting rid of R1 weapons do not give you extra refunds?

[distant wren]

well I did said, it's annoying+very tight even if it does work lmao

[digital moat]

Next cr reset is next monday righy

[wispy robin]

first lamiya then cw

[patent pollen]

Okay thank you

[jaunty beacon]

Triggering core and ult 1 is almost 5s

[wispy robin]

you can do one time achieves btw to get one ss very fast

[pine slate]

Nope

[timber grove]

Unfortunate, poor Rosetta

[feral pollen]

what did you do to her

[timber grove]

R1, but that was a long time ago

[peak halo]

What the hell
Its again tanky eu wz

[shadow holly]

is that hero

[peak halo]

Leader💀

[shadow holly]

come on there are no good players in leader

first place is a rando with SS invest

[feral pollen]

[jaunty beacon]

there's nothing tanky below hero

[peak halo]

This is why i watch leader score

And also 2nd thing im not in hero

But yeah hero score not seen how its tanky

[peak halo]

Is that hero?

[visual topaz]

Legend*

[spiral merlin]

Check hero

[peak halo]

But i geuss that vanguard scoreboard nade me mald

[peak halo]

I checked
Lot of whels
Im not whel

[spiral merlin]

There’s a very cool guy in top 3 I hear

[peak halo]

Yeah 3s fesh

[solid kraken]

do you mean the stages, or all of it, including the story

[wispy robin]

tf is this my game literally freezes from double shark hitting the ground 24/7

[rough mica]

[deft apex]

luna looks limp there

[carmine reef]

You look limp mf

[deft apex]

livwhat

[inland tree]

meant all of it, i mean the whole thing only has like 13 stages, it shouldnt take too long i think?

[wispy robin]

probably because she got her face smacked 10 times per sec just by trying to ult

[inland tree]

blazing simulcrum is very short for story

[shadow holly]

just pull an uno reverse on the sharks and iframe their attacks back

[carmine reef]

Ah yes
In pgr, iframing deals extra dmg to iframed enemies
Secret tech that only the one true ppclao would know

[shadow holly]

[wispy robin]

btw do they still add new strongholds?

[steel horizon]

Yes, and we are getting more in the future as well.

They will also eventually drop the serum cost entirely as well IIRC

Anyone know if there is any particular reason why we swap 4heisen to feral in PPC instead of just keeping it on garnet (come PB I mean)? I thought feral can proc guin in one QTE so she should be fine as the DV holder, no?

[carmine reef]

This might be in a no garnet harmo situation? Idk, you'll have to clarify what context you heard this
Also, i believe feral needs to heal all 3 in order to proc 4guin in one qte, so that might be the use case if you are trying to stagger out feral qtes for uptime or smth

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/b0Iem.gif

[novel flame]

i cant clear war zone

any suggestions?

[steel horizon]

Setsu's sheet is the context.

[spiral merlin]

It’s easy to clear warzone the hard part is scoring high

You must be using off element

[wispy robin]

ok how do you deal with this now

do you wait on supports till she captures them first

nvm she can capture 3rd char too..

[ripe stag]

Share your friend ID and server name

[novel flame]

specific zones have specific weaknesses

i cant take advantage of the weaknesses cuz i dont have all the teams

[deft apex]

cut the strings

with like a scissors thing

it shows up sometimes

[wispy robin]

nvm i already done it by random smashing buttons

[shadow holly]

u basically just have to hit her from behind

[ashen edge]

for ult kill strat only (7reds mald) where cw gonna hold eins

[hazy sandal]

Notee

[shadow holly]

ok dalao

[steel horizon]

Oh it's setsu

[ashen edge]

smh that is ur strat

[arctic laurel]

Hi to all dalao

[hazy sandal]

Did I?

[ashen edge]

you did include it yes

[steel horizon]

So it's only for that strat? Can keep 4heisen on garnet if CW isn't SSS?

[stiff burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1200144945500135514/DumbDawn360.gif

[ashen edge]

4heisen feral zaza thing

[steel horizon]

Wait no it's also used with 4 cottie weave from what I am seeing squints

[hazy sandal]

Sry I just became a brainrot while clearing my guild battle homework

[ashen edge]

[steel horizon]

Setsu halp

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/_VplpWpUNXI?si=PKKZWyRRE04Dc3PU

[shadow holly]

p sure except that strat you dont run heisen in ppc
garnet is on tifa DV and feral has Guin eins Sam

[steel horizon]

I'm just referencing his sheet tbh

[shadow holly]

depends on which one
it might be the outdated one

[steel horizon]

there's nothing listed for SS3 weave with full team harmo so I wasn't sure the use case

the new one

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

dont know if it work on ss3, i have to wait until then

[steel horizon]

the 7 orb strat says SSS0+

[barren plank]

9 minutes wtf 😭

[ashen edge]

but probably not gonna change the score much but it would be like 1 sec faster lol

[ashen edge]

might also work for ss3 who knows

ss3 did a lot of ult kill strat

[hazy sandal]

With a roblox twirking neurons die more faster

[barren plank]

[shadow holly]

just ig significantly less relevant because test and elite removal

so only really gonna have like kills left uhh on lamia siren Hamlet?

oh and Tifa Knight right

[ashen edge]

lamia/siren/hamlet/tifa

[sand laurel]

whats the invest?

[steel horizon]

none of the sets in the sheet list feral having sam actually

[ashen edge]

tifa chaos could be?

[shadow holly]

ah right Gloria
yeah it's better

[ashen edge]

if sss garn from leap

[shadow holly]

k whel

[steel horizon]

Unless we are counting the electroconvergence set

[sand laurel]

9 minutes of gooning in guild battle

[hazy sandal]

3.2/3.1/3.1

[ashen edge]

BS knight alt strat

[shadow holly]

3s6

[steel horizon]

I guess the main question is how impactful is it to have both 4heisen and 4DV sets on garnet compared to just keeping garnet with heisen

[hazy sandal]

Cw

[shadow holly]

s+ weeb

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.

[shadow holly]

s+ weave

[vale raft]

Lucia: Crimson Weave

Skill - S+

Glimpse Into All

Level 1 - Unlocked at SSS3

Extra DMG Bonus of Unquenchable Flare's Thunderous Bash and Resolute Blow increases by 30%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS6

Extra DMG Bonus of Unquenchable Flare's Leaping Thrust and 3-Ping Skills increases by 50%.

Level 3 - Unlocked at SSS+

Extra DMG Bonus of Signature - Weave: Karmic Inferno increases by 50%.

[hazy sandal]

Tf trash bot

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

S+ weeboo

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.

[shadow holly]

nn weave

[vale raft]

The name you have included does not exist as a frame. Are you using a nickname? For this command in particular, using nicknames is not allowed. Please add the frame name in all lower case.

[hazy sandal]

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/buhovershakeyflipexplode-gif-2719827179900729731

[hazy sandal]

S+ Sans

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.

[sand laurel]

I like the music choice, very fitting
however, when I play GB it looks more like Swedish Chef cooking

[ashen edge]

k back to the question why 4heisen on feral

what are u cooking

[glass bay]

[hazy sandal]

DV vera

4guin4hei

[stiff burrow]

I hab dv vera

[hazy sandal]

2eins cw

[stiff burrow]

Vera rozen

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

Max dmg

👍

[ashen edge]

ah

[lethal sun]

Ok

ZAZA

[ashen edge]

dv tifa

i get it

[hazy sandal]

[lethal sun]

Whales

[spiral merlin]

Omg cn has balter in brick path banner

[lethal sun]

Nice trash

[steel horizon]

why give garnet DV instead of just keeping heisen on her and giving DV to feral? better debuff length if we give Heisen to feral?

[jaunty beacon]

Too many zaza

[lethal sun]

Blubba doesn’t know

[hazy sandal]

4guin

[lethal sun]

The ZAZA sauce is too much for me to handle as well

[steel horizon]

better guin buff uptime with garnet DV then?

[hazy sandal]

Nah its just for mid fast kill

[barren plank]

She has no innate shred without Tifa

Wait what's the context

[pine slate]

Prolly a ppc kill

[steel horizon]

so can I use garnet 4tifa 4heisen and feral 4dv4guin?

[hazy sandal]

[barren plank]

4heisen is just bad in the context of PPC

[hazy sandal]

Yes but not a best buff

[steel horizon]

just trying to figure out why garnet needs to switch to DV when she uses heisen in WZ

[barren plank]

2eins buffs more for half the build space

[steel horizon]

weave holds eins

[barren plank]

Huh

[steel horizon]

ask setsu I just follow his sheet

[pine slate]

[hazy sandal]

. Do I have to add the context on the spreadshit more

[pine slate]

Wrong reply, i meant to reply to this

[hazy sandal]

Wait a sec

[pine slate]

Weave holds eins how, r u a cn player?

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-wuthering-waves-encore-encore-wuwa-gif-6274641689917643965

[steel horizon]

future builds dazz

[pine slate]

Or r u just blindly following without knowing the context of the build

[steel horizon]

not right now

[barren plank]

I feel my braincells melting what are we discussing here

[stiff burrow]

rofl who does that

[barren plank]

General builds? Or niche strats

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-leaving-yuru-yuri-anime-gjb93-gif-14614005

[pine slate]

Ye i wonder who

[carmine reef]

Maybe you should read the chat logs instead of flailing around blindly

[pine slate]

Tbf tho, cw eins does sound like smth setsu would do

[rocky wedge]

even without luck u end up with mostly everyone on sigs which is fine enough

[pine slate]

Wouldnt be surprised if he was using a 4 dv 2 eins 2 gloria cw

[hazy sandal]

Is that a compliment or —

[pine slate]

[barren plank]

Interpret it how you wish

[pine slate]

Depends on u

[rocky wedge]

get few free wep resos over time, can / could of farmed ayla, alisa to sss for free as well as wanshi later, get a pet or 2 from the free norman tix all daijobu

but for myself rn i just understand f2p as more of a status then comparable investment wise to another f2p player since wata and qu patch was unfair luck Dx

like no f2p player should ever not suffer with a 5 star wep on one of them for awhile

tho i did get stuck with one but i think it was only for about a week if even Dx

[sand laurel]

[steel horizon]

No is fine I just wasn't sure how much you gain swapping heisen to feral instead of keeping it on garnet for PPC since you have a build for feral listed with garnet only having heisen harmo

[glass bay]

Holy shet I thought that was a pasta

[hazy sandal]

Whenever you need a 7orb kills u use dv garn
As typically

[thorn creek]

Spend 3.5k in balter gacha banner to get wep reso usb

[pine slate]

For cw?

[hazy sandal]

Premise is that cw 3ping must hit the enemy to trigger its effect

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[zenith thorn]

u lucked out

[thorn creek]

Always

Jianxin and Wifekeeper in 30 pulls

[steel horizon]

So it doesn't matter without SSS weave then? can just keep heisen on garnet outside of 7 orb kill?

[hazy sandal]

Worrynodders

[rocky wedge]

why use the emote when u can be the emote

[hazy sandal]

No

There is a core move 3ping kill u know

Resolute blow + 3ping

Stonk dmg than 7orb by being 1sec late as in return

And that still applies to ss3 cw

[pine slate]

Without ult 2?

[hazy sandal]

Shouldn’t be restricted

[hazy sandal]

No
Included

[pine slate]

O ok

[tulip spade]

Hey guys just wondering how people are able to exceed fps above 120?

Is this relating to having vsync on?

Does vsync go off by your monitors hz ?

[hazy sandal]

Why skippimg ultimate

[pine slate]

Yes

Idk u said 7 orb kill so..

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/r0KeJoK32Yw?si=fHVVVUmA5XvYrXAA

unless uwu are doing a test run

Fk

[pine slate]

[hazy sandal]

Too old times

[pine slate]

Wtf how u do garnet core so fast

[barren plank]

Real

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/amiya-breakdance-fast-epic-dance-gif-27185271

[ashen edge]

that's the power of dv tifa

you dont need to do core cancel

[pine slate]

O he used dv tifa?

I thought dv heisen or smth

[steel horizon]

where is eins for hell in that run? doesn't that say 4 guin 2gloria 2sam

[pine slate]

Ok the heisen is on cw

[ashen edge]

eins on cw

[steel horizon]

yeah that's the ult 1 build listed on the sheet

[ashen edge]

he already said

[hollow tulip]

would yall do a 1 block vertical jump for the beef?

[steel horizon]

no that's heisen on weave in that video

HI MATT

[hollow tulip]

yo

[ashen edge]

for hell and test specific

[hollow tulip]

would you do a 1 block vertical jump for the beef?

[pine slate]

Isnt cw holding heisen in this vid?

[hazy sandal]

Frankly speaking test lvl vera setting is 2gloria2eins4tofu

[pine slate]

Wait why eins on cw

[ripe stag]

WTF Matt

[ripe stag]

[ashen edge]

on hell/test

[ripe stag]

Hello Korean named CC

[ashen edge]

elite to chaos same setup

[ripe stag]

I always forget how to spell your name

[hollow tulip]

answer the question

[pine slate]

[steel horizon]

my korean is weak this is gonna take a sec to read it all lol

[hazy sandal]

Hi I’m kimchi warrior

[ripe stag]

What questions
You expect me, the god of skill issue and no knowledge, to answer a dalao question?

[ashen edge]

garn dv tifa
feral guin heisen

[ripe stag]

Smh Matt

[ashen edge]

so eins has to be on cw

[gloomy dew]

i have liv and starfaer did brs good as qte slave in that team?

[ripe stag]

You disappointed me

[ashen edge]

for max dmg fast ult 1 kill

[ripe stag]

Don't even pull her

[hollow tulip]

im just sasking if youd do a vertiacl jump for the beef

[gloomy dew]

no pull just a rank

[pine slate]

Wait hold up

[ripe stag]

What beef ?

[steel horizon]

what's a hururu

[shadow holly]

cottie

[steel horizon]

oh that tracks

forgot CN server, different name

[hazy sandal]

Dolphe

[pine slate]

Cw on eins cottie?

[ashen edge]

yes

[steel horizon]

yeah

[pine slate]

[gloomy dew]

so did she good as qte slave or continue farm sss+ lee?

[shadow holly]

if you want a QTE slave just use another amp or tank

[gloomy dew]

on a rank

[shadow holly]

attackers provide zero value as QTE bots

[steel horizon]

so this brings me back to what specifically is the benefit for having DV on garnet instead of on feral if the killtime is so fast

[ripe stag]

You don't need to farm
Yea just make her hold DV kek

[lethal sun]

4 cottie 2 Eins CW?

[ripe stag]

just a filler DV holder till Epitaph

[lethal sun]

[steel horizon]

that's the one bit I wanted to understand from the start ;;

[hazy sandal]

The eins cw conversation repeats like a Dormammu bargain

I must escape

[lethal sun]

Higher damage output potential

[steel horizon]

ok, that's all I needed

[gloomy dew]

i use sss ayla if i can

but need another option

[shadow holly]

probably has to do with Guin activation delay if you try to put both Guin and DV on feral

because when you do double qte with feral you get Guin drone instantly on the 2nd QTE together with DV
so it buffs your damage spike properly

[ashen edge]

giving higher dmg output potential also to do with triple qte

[still bolt]

Me who has nothing for fire team, will be using epitaph as a solo DPS. What do I even do about his team?

[steel horizon]

makes sense, so it's guin being finicky more than DV itself

[ashen edge]

maximum your dmg output on cw include ult 1 hit and orb dmg

while feral dv you cant do that

[shadow holly]

yea that too
u want feral buffs on orb DMG too

[ripe stag]

SSS KALEIDO

GIVE ME

[gloomy dew]

what is dv?

[ripe stag]

YOUR KALEIDO

[still bolt]

Da Vinci

[gloomy dew]

yeah im simp btw

[steel horizon]

nah I got it now thanks for the help

[ripe stag]

GIVE ME YOUR KALEIDO

[gloomy dew]

)0)) nope

[ashen edge]

got it first glance, might apply for ss3 zaza strat

[steel horizon]

he said it works for ss3

[ashen edge]

imagine 6 atk set on ss3

[frozen creek]

Whel

[steel horizon]

well, slam ss3 strat I guess so maybe not

Setsu too strong

[gloomy dew]

hi bro)

[steel horizon]

my tiny brain can't handle

[ashen edge]

no, slam ss3 you probably use another setup

[shadow holly]

[frozen creek]

Hi

Stop losing weapon

[gloomy dew]

i finally stopped

[shadow holly]

just win

[frozen creek]

[gloomy dew]

got empy 6*

[frozen creek]

[ashen edge]

swap heisen to cw and feral guin sam eins

[frozen creek]

Wtf backpulling sig whel

[ashen edge]

or maybe there's another setup but cant really tell from the sheet if qu patch isnt at glb

[steel horizon]

sheet lists it as gloria instead of sam now which makes sense

[gloomy dew]

but i can't pull for caleido 6* bc i skipped 2 patches and wata qu is waiting behind door

[shadow holly]

SS3 rights

fund me cw SS3 pls

[steel horizon]

sacc her is easy

[ashen edge]

[steel horizon]

time to find another edge case question we can spend an hour on

[glass bay]

I have

Aren't u whel

[normal sierra]

he is, fat whel

@shadow holly what are your lilith times?

[shadow holly]

12/10/11/14/20
knight bricked I don't have cub active leveled
lacking damage from that
1/3 of a bar

[visual topaz]

trslao

[shadow holly]

I think I lost around 40 score on chaos and hell combined from HP because forced to use RE

[barren plank]

12/10/11

[shadow holly]

nityanka gapped on mado thanks to 3s cow and r2 glory

[normal sierra]

whels, whels everywhere

[steel horizon]

tried whel once, highly recommend

[shadow holly]

ngl bro is insane having r2 glory on his invest

[barren plank]

fr

[steel horizon]

I refuse to give him even r1, I'm too new, too many longer term value units to reso

[normal sierra]

you did 21s hell mado or faster?

[shadow holly]

I was surprised to find out he has s+ rose too
that's why his phys times so whale

[normal sierra]

he got s+ this week

from bp shards

[shadow holly]

I came close to giving up and saving 21 several times but I got 20
have to use Cottie so damage gg gone
r2 and Alisa barely saving

[glass bay]

WTF

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[normal sierra]

the power of whel saved 1 sec

[shadow holly]

[barren plank]

BWAHA

[frozen creek]

Doomy bot down there

[steel horizon]

I forgor... does wanshi need 2 QTE to proc guin

[shadow holly]

yes

tho if ur a spender why resort to using wanshi
should be some free ap on Empy/feral/alisa

[zenith thorn]

parkour civilization

[wispy robin]

wait what is this baner in wanshi patch, is this just 100% rate up like anniversary?

[shadow holly]

yes but you can only choose the rateup once

on anniversary u can change it however many times u want and pull as many different units as you want
on wishing once u select the unit, it's locked in

[wispy robin]

why would they even make it locked

this one is the same as normal one just cost 10800 bc instead?

[shadow holly]

cuz otherwise it would be basically anni banner
and running it twice a year is kinda op

so they made wishing banner, which is ran around half Anni, with a downside

at least that would be my reasoning

[wispy robin]

i can imagine how much mald there going to be from people who accidentally choose wrong

[fringe grove]

Would you jump for the beef

[zenith thorn]

sorry i am minor

I don't accept beer

accidentally i will only see the typo you've made

[zenith thorn]

that's kinda that basis of wishing banner atleast from my understanding

any gacha with a wishing banner is 100% but locked

azur lane had them
limited chars,100% and locked

[visual topaz]

@hidden forum

i've been trying 13s Luna since 1h only to notice rn i had wrong harmo

[fringe grove]

Fix the boot

Trust

[visual topaz]

gib me usb

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/khaby-lame-tiktok-black-guy-who-has-a-point-pointing-to-make-fun-of-life-hacks-gif-21880198

[visual topaz]

bruh how did you predicted i'd be missing damage

[shadow holly]

is fixing a boot even gonna help
time to ht davinci Daren

[rocky wedge]

@digital moat well at least ss0 han strong in phys wz xd

[woven haven]

so how is wanshi nazz

enjoying him so far?

[rocky wedge]

i havent learned to play him yet tbh

but he seems pretty cool from what ive just tried casually 🥹

[fringe kestrel]

@sand dome did your account get terminated?

[shadow holly]

[fringe kestrel]

[thick herald]

What weapon resonance should I do for brs?

[shadow holly]

brs weapon reso

probably DLT first cuz she eats a lot of orbs

[woven haven]

refund reso

[shadow holly]

dlt is p much always the first consideration unless the char REALLY doesn't need it
or is a tank

[woven haven]

so you can refund brs

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

nah tanks still more often than not need DLT

[visual topaz]

who's that

[fringe kestrel]

yukihax's channel

[visual topaz]

naur way

[fringe kestrel]

i was looking at madorea ref and clicked the link and it capoo

[woven haven]

Garn DLT pre-Alpha
Karen DLT still mandatory to this day
Wata DLT on Luna/Lucia
Hanying DLT forever
Wanshi doesn't need one

[thick herald]

What about 2nd resonance?

[shadow holly]

alr
thought shred reso would still bring higher impact
but yeah ig with stuff like Scire being unplayable without DLT and such

[visual topaz]

wtf

[woven haven]

she's A rank attacker so the 2nd reso and onwards is really just useless

[visual topaz]

Yukihax indeed deadge wtf

[woven haven]

its pure dmg ups

[visual topaz]

all video unavailable

[fringe kestrel]

that's what i said

[visual topaz]

we just lost SSS sheet

omg

[fringe kestrel]

the channel is gone

[shadow holly]

btw what's the situation with Hanying
I've seen setsu recommend Patton at SS0 too
would it be literally mandatory dlt instead of just heavily recommended

[woven haven]

the DLT is literally the "most"

i would ever spend on BRS

[visual topaz]

@lethal sun SSS sheet deadge

[woven haven]

if i was really splurging

[visual topaz]

Yukihax channel gone

[woven haven]

2 reso and 3 reso BRS is just a waste of resources, time and sanity

[fringe kestrel]

how did it get banned/deleted anyways...

[visual topaz]

[fringe kestrel]

it's joever

[stuck sphinx]

Wata still uses dlt pre Lucia for triple rot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179775282446618645.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[woven haven]

yeah

[visual topaz]

https://youtu.be/lyPQmjYNHjw?si=O2nAKrEXZhfrROAd

wtf

terminated account

[woven haven]

so actually wata uses DLT majority of the time more often than not

[stuck sphinx]

Yeah, her weapon is free reso

[woven haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757563597944520784/1290090982158630993/IMG_8961.gif

free reso for nanami

[shadow holly]

ok wait I need to do the funny
when I get home I pull for brs weapon
and record feeding it into Wata reso
and post it into trophy room

[woven haven]

ULTIMATO
SPEKTAKURU

[fringe kestrel]

[stuck sphinx]

[woven haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257364642133446798/1281522287845314641/NANAMI.gif

[shadow holly]

nanacutie

[fringe kestrel]

link from yukihax pfp https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936534258741301298/1291516298148188272/image.png?ex=670061c8&is=66ff1048&hm=2de043a50335e5428aa88d15411ed59841a07ff462bd422b1a21abaded10e959&

[visual topaz]

oh nyo

[woven haven]

Nanami got powercrept so much she came back with a vengeance
Powercrept CW Feral Garn all 3 in one go, probably powercrept Wata and Wanshi in Void, and also decided she still wanted to be a Fire Tank somehow

[stuck sphinx]

[visual topaz]

[woven haven]

and now she has at least 4 relevant teams

beating out karen's record of 3

[visual topaz]

一口气上吧

[woven haven]

and then i saw the wackass "use her in fire as wata substitute" and keeled over

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179775282446618645.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[woven haven]

actually straight up better to use a burn tank with no bonuses

with 25% fire shred

than Mech

*if no Wata

she's still obv bad for fire but

[hollow tulip]

nanami was so real for powercreeping all the tanks

[stuck sphinx]

Same shred as Bridget?

[woven haven]

it just goes to show how ass fire tanks are outside of wata

[woven haven]

Mech 15%, SSS 25%
Bridget SSS 15% iirc
Pulse 10% + 5% Sig Wep
Nanaknight 25% - 45% usual new gen tank ranks
Wata 25% - 45% too

[teal coyote]

Which do I buy ?

[woven haven]

the thing is Nanaknight doesn't deal fire dmg

[stuck sphinx]

Both

[woven haven]

so its a bit of an issue for not getting the on element bonus

[stuck sphinx]

It’s ok because mech doesn’t deal fire damage either

[woven haven]

both

98 RC for both per patch

[woven sable]

Mech doesnt do damage

[teal coyote]

@woven havenDoes top of unlock if I get the bottom one or ?

[stuck sphinx]

[woven haven]

no

they are entirely seperate

its fine though its really worth to get both

[woven sable]

One more f2p is saved

[woven haven]

getting only 1 is a lot more bleh

[teal coyote]

How much is that per pass in $

[woven haven]

for the value you get

uh idk glb prices sorry

[teal coyote]

Ok I found out

[shadow holly]

if ur already getting monthly pass A + both BPs it's around 20 dollars I think

[teal coyote]

damn that's 2x of usual bp price in like 99% of games

[fringe kestrel]

you can skip the bottom one, it's mostly for pet tickets

[shadow holly]

[fringe kestrel]

but if u want max value to eventually SSS/SSS+ an amp you'll want both tiers

[teal coyote]

I mean I don't mind it since I see lots of stuff in bottom one

[shadow holly]

that's the most important part
pets are so good

[woven haven]

bruh

that is such a lie

[fringe kestrel]

he's not

[teal coyote]

@shadow hollyhey sensei btw is this you ?

[woven haven]

just get both

[shadow holly]

wdym is this me

[woven haven]

BP isn't actually all that expensive

[shadow holly]

no
my ign is trs
dude u added me to friends

[woven haven]

the vouchers/shards are in both tiers

[teal coyote]

god damn it

how tf did this dude got added as my mentor

[fringe kestrel]

it's the most worth next to monthly

[teal coyote]

Idk how this got messed up again but seems I'm on cd again

also question what is this ?

I got it that it's skin for some character but how much and how does I get wallpaper?

[woven sable]

Do u have the chara?

[old hinge]

pull

thats stigmata

[short radish]

I can pull the skin for some reason also game buggin

[wind basin]

All rewards is cost 17.5k bc or 500 rc pretty expensive
You can check chances % to get specific reward

[teal coyote]

No but I've tried her out in practice tool not really my type of character sadly

[karmic burrow]

guys, you cannot farm shards for event A-rank characters right?

[teal coyote]

So not for me xD

[teal coyote]

thanks

[short radish]

Alpha skin more worth xD

[wispy robin]

you probably sent invite to random mentors during tutorial and now they adding you

[teal coyote]

That girl seems pretty hard to play tho

[teal coyote]

yeah prob god damn it xD

[wispy robin]

you should still do at least some quests you can to boost exp to 40lvl fast

can change mentor later

[teal coyote]

I've managed to hit 41 just now

Lots of stuff opened up

So I'm just checking everything out rn

[wispy robin]

spend all your serum on event stage only

never farm reso maps

[teal coyote]

I'm blasting everything into story missions rn

Since the story is getting more and more interesting sadly it cost energy to play main story so event is not even an option right now

[fringe kestrel]

yuki's channel is back

we're back!

wait jk it gone again

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

nah qte bot

you won’t see the skin

[wispy robin]

btw there is reading order, after 8 chapter you should read ex00 -> 9-12 -> ex01-03
after that iirc game starts to show you what to read next

[short radish]

I will before nanami patch

[woven haven]

no you won’t cuz you will avoid lightning content as often as u can due to bad score unironically

since wz and ppc now have optional stuff

[short radish]

Y?

[woven haven]

Because every other team score will be higher

[remote pier]

[teal coyote]

where can ex00 be found ?

[woven haven]

WZ mixed node if its Void/Light or Ice/Light or Fire/Light or even Phys/Light you’ll just skip the lightning node

[wispy robin]

wait wdym optional, there will be stages you don't need to do? which patch is that?

[woven haven]

cuz its just that bad

[upper egret]

wanshi rework

[short radish]

Damn that sucks

[woven haven]

super ppc (the tier above ex) has 3 stages a week, only 2 need to be done

[upper egret]

oh you were talking about onslaught not wz lol

[short radish]

Light team getting benched fr

[woven haven]

Wanshi patch wz rework adds 3rd wz stage with 2 elements
do both and they only collect the highest score of the 2

[woven haven]

so logically the moment you pair lightning with phys/ice/fire/void
you already know cw’s not winning

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814602336340148262/1285705028912414811/buh-fatasswizardcatexplodesbuh.gif

[upper egret]

cripple weeb

[short radish]

In my case id rather choose cw than phys lmao

[teal coyote]

Thanks yeah that one is locked still I'll do it in that order than

[woven haven]

and after lucia patch one of the two choices is always ion or trueslash

[upper egret]

phys is gonna demolish light scores bc of hanying

[woven haven]

which are definitely stronger than Lightning

[short radish]

Ion gud

[woven haven]

hanying eclipses cw anyways so

[upper egret]

your only hope if you want to field cw is to 3s both her and feral so she can swap with nanami tbh

[short radish]

Woth ss0 nothing can be done

[upper egret]

in phys she still wins

[wispy robin]

so do you technically need only 4 elem teams now..

[short radish]

Why tho

If team is ss0 how much can it change from 332 light?

[shadow holly]

ye but maybe 3s CW on light vs SS0 Hanying on phys is somewhat comparable/equal
will have to see

[unreal halo]

Lightning good tho, cuz like it makes enemies vibrate, then they feel good... They lose energy to fight bc they become sensitive... So yeah lightning good

[unreal halo]

Fr??

[pure parrot]

does pgr have an official newbie guide?

[upper egret]

it's possible ig, but I'd be surprised given how big the gap is at least from what I've seen

[shadow holly]

cw is just not very good
she was strong in terms of damage on release but then literally everyone newer was significantly better

[unreal halo]

True

[short radish]

Bad game updates fr

[upper egret]

I just hope cw gets replaced fast so I don't have to invest in her on anni for swappable light

just hate doing solo anything

[unreal halo]

Now what if cw gets leap

[upper egret]

her leap improves her qte bot abilities
literally

[remote pier]

she is getting one lol

[short radish]

Nanami still claps cw

[shadow holly]

@woven haven if I can get one SSS by pulling 3 copies instead of 2 and getting the last one from paid selector on Luna
would you get 3s Wata or qu

[unreal halo]

Eyy atleast

[woven haven]

wata

[remote pier]

still 💩

[shadow holly]

I mean
she got leap
and she still needs SSS at least to swap with SS0 nanami

[unreal halo]

Wata

[woven haven]

-3s swap

[woven haven]

she did get leap
didn’t save her

[unreal halo]

Hm

[woven haven]

nanami now outdoes cw by a LOT

[short radish]

I think nanami 2.1 has 90% field time like wata

[pure parrot]

[unreal halo]

Which should I pull tho... Luna or wata

[woven haven]

cn beta testers say sss alpha needed to swap with ss nanami

otherwise just nanami solo

[upper egret]

both lmao

[woven haven]

and not just sss alpha
also need feral invest to swap

[unreal halo]

Which nanami you guys talking Abt again

[unreal halo]

Okii

[upper egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257364642133446798/1281522287845314641/NANAMI.gif

[short radish]

Luna just yeet her to ss wata gud

[woven haven]

Lightning Tank Nanami

[unreal halo]

Okioki

[upper egret]

radiant tide eyes nanami

[unreal halo]

Okiii

[flat heath]

Why must I wait a year for her

[pure parrot]

so are there any

[flat heath]

[remote pier]

why not

[flat heath]

[short radish]

You wont realise when time will pass dont worry

[unreal halo]

You won't even notice

Let the flow flow

[short radish]

And overflow

[shadow holly]

there are some on grayravens website but idk if they're good
just ask here
aint no one gonna bite
unless you intentionally make stupid decisions

[remote pier]

Stack Overflow

[unreal halo]

Wha

Season 2 would be nice

[short radish]

||If you have lasagna ill bite you||

[unreal halo]

I have

[shadow holly]

[unreal halo]

I go sleep now gn

[pure parrot]

I doubt this community cares if they cant even answer that simple question but I'll just check out the gameplay first I suppose

[shadow holly]

I mean sure but if ur question suddenly didn't get answered immediately no need to get hostile

[pure parrot]

huh, wdym?

idk why ur projecting (and rage-baiting?) but that was just facts, not shaming these ppl or anything

[river nymph]

[wispy robin]

https://grayravens.com/wiki/Guides/Beginner's_Guide check this

[upper egret]

[deft apex]

What does ss unharmo'd balter use post qu
Both for ppc and wz

[inland tree]

[shadow holly]

give up on life

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814602336340148262/1285705028912414811/buh-fatasswizardcatexplodesbuh.gif

[shadow holly]

it's so weird how the infographic recommends still running Charlotte for SS3 lmao

[woven haven]

not the ae sheet

[shadow holly]

isn't that super wrong

[inland tree]

idfk

its rlly old tho that much ik

[shadow holly]

like I understand running char at SSS cuz core damage big and maybe it's higher damage than patton

[deft apex]

So uhh

What does she use

[past sundial]

what buffs for each memory?

[river nymph]

(use with care)

[upper egret]

6 diesel

[remote pier]

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

do you want the short version or the long version

[remote pier]

nice bc

[inland tree]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[woven haven]

(you’re getting the long version)

[deft apex]

Short pls im not absolute malder

[floral plover]

CW uniframe

[deft apex]

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-typing-kitten-typing-typing-gif-9421482755570860732

[gentle fox]

smone could help me, when u use Stigmata, Rigor and Echo, which part of this teams kit activate QTE *when u use Stigmata signature? I saw videos when Stigmata use her signature and activate both char QTE

[past sundial]

[upper egret]

she's about as useful as one in the near future anyway

[woven haven]

ok til alpha leap has pseudo orb sort

[past sundial]

did I use the wrong memories

[woven haven]

its not an actual orb rearrange but its… something

[remote pier]

that's not an essay

[floral plover]

Ult2 (the big sword slam) activates both
You preferably want to use Rigor's qte, then Echo's a bit after and then it forces another Rigor qte thanks to davinci

[inland tree]

6pc diesel doesnt do anything, memories only go up to 4pc for effects

so basically 2/6 diesels r offering nothing for ur cw

[past sundial]

ok so what do i replace 2 of them with

[inland tree]

cottie i think

[remote pier]

8 Cottie

[floral plover]

Cottie at bottom

[upper egret]

4 diesel 2 cottie is the build

[floral plover]

It was bottom right?

[remote pier]

build cw

[upper egret]

ye cottie bottom

[past sundial]

ok what now

[inland tree]

ur a bottom

[remote pier]

uninstall

[floral plover]

[upper egret]

[floral plover]

Any +15 atk on top reso
Basic atk dmg on bottom reso

[inland tree]

you flipped it but ye

u cant get basica atk from bottom reso lmao

[floral plover]

Oh...
HAHSHSS

Mybad

[upper egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1188472917256835083.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[past sundial]

this for all 3 top ones?

[upper egret]

yes basic attack for top reso, 15 atk for bottom

[remote pier]

oh nyo, red usb?

[past sundial]

ok

thanks guys

[wispy robin]

don't use usb on atk since it's easy to roll, only on basic atk

[past sundial]

I do not follow

[upper egret]

[wispy robin]

you get random buff by feeding the same memory

it's easy to get atk this way so don't waste usb memory

[inland tree]

basically as long as u get atk/hp, atk/def, or atk/crit on bottom resos ur fine

[azure cove]

Am new, does the choice matter?

[upper egret]

pulse

[inland tree]

so ppl dont reccommend using usbs for bottom resos for cw to save usbs

[pseudo locust]

yes
get pulse

[past sundial]

I'll be back

[pseudo locust]

though is lumi still an option?

[inland tree]

pulse is only relevant for 1 more patch

[upper egret]

lumi not an option no, alisa is free and easy to get

[azure cove]

so how good is pulse?

[remote pier]

can use Pulse for ppc

[pseudo locust]

decent placeholder fire tank before being completely replaced next patch

[sharp grove]

Any dalaos got a 323 202 100 lightning team rots to be used as reference?

[gentle fox]

but the next patch we have Epitaph, fire tank

[wind basin]

Lumi is also ded af if no leap considering future leaps it’s just a waste of resources

[azure cove]

b r u h, as a new player will i even be able to get the new character next patch?

[remote pier]

sure

plenty of stories to farm from

[upper egret]

should be able to fairly easily

[remote pier]

unless you go for Brick RS

[past sundial]

Oh yeah by the way is the fan lady good, when she came out I had a bunch of basic summons and got her SS

[pseudo locust]

yeah
gacha here gives enough to pull for S ranks unlike others

and since you're new you have a ton of bc source

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-yamada-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-explosion-gif-5660551996725584487

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/black-shores-shorekeeper-wuthering-waves-ww-wuwa-gif-5189704320063443945

[azure cove]

ok, my brain feels like its gonna explode with all this new info and mechanics lol (play wuwa, have played HSR)

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-changli-鳴潮-長離-得意-gif-17952612754738325028

[past sundial]

Press buttons and win seems like the strat

[azure cove]

fair, i just wanna figure out what my characters pings actually do lol

[pseudo locust]

BC= Black cards = stellar Jades
character on debut banner is 100% rate and you only need 60 pulls to get it

[past sundial]

Unreal generosity

[azure cove]

wow, a gacha game that doesnt force you to shill?

[wind basin]

I can’t play other gacha games cuz of pgr 100%
Got spoiled too much

[pseudo locust]

the only gacha here is if you're gonna get the S rank early before 60 pulls or not

[wind basin]

Or fate

[azure cove]

i mean i play wuwa so im sorta used to kuro spoiling me

[wind basin]

But still it’s 100%

[pseudo locust]

nah that's why we grind hard here

[wind basin]

I don’t play wuwa 50/50 is bs

[upper egret]

real
50/50 is a scam

[azure cove]

fair, i just dont pull every character, i dont like every character so no point in getting a char i dont like

[wispy robin]

in wuwa you need 3 dps chars and you can stop pulling till the rest of the game
here you need 6 teams all with sigs cubs and resos

[shadow holly]

may @raw swift stalk Bili for a ref for you
or maybe he has one of his own

[short radish]

Just be lucky

[shadow holly]

no reso on Garnet is crazy though

[pseudo locust]

ah also on standard banner you get an S rank selector of previous S ranks (up to 2 patches ago) with a 100% rate
you just need 40 standard pulls for beginner

[wind basin]

This
I got bored of wuwa real fast there is no reason to get new chars if you can clear everything with 4*

[pseudo locust]

let alone a fully built danjin solo

[wind basin]

Well, actually I did didn’t helped

[azure cove]

to each their own, i just like the gameplay lol

[river nymph]

[teal coyote]

this fight on 5 is on another lvl I just got send home in like 30 sec xD

[azure cove]

i was told to wait until next patch so i can pick (a mermaid lady i think?) on the standard banner

[pseudo locust]

isn't that one just the same as 4 just more stats?

[pseudo locust]

ah yeah you missed her by 1 patch

[teal coyote]

yeah but she hit hard on 5

[sharp grove]

Yea just asking for a guildmate, it’s actually 252 for weaps not 202

[azure cove]

so just wait until next to get her?

[pseudo locust]

up to you if you want her

[azure cove]

idk whats good or not and how fast pgr powercreeps

[rose yew]

Doesn't oneshot my 3.9k hp brs tho

[teal coyote]

if you watched, you'll want her xD

[wispy robin]

new chars are always on one league higher than previous always focus on them

[pseudo locust]

uh....in here you're gonna want every new S rank to compete in meta (it's possible as I mentioned since kuro gives just enough to pull every new s rank assuming you play enough)

[azure cove]

so old S ranks are just, outdated in an instant?

[pseudo locust]

there are elements here, depends if the new s rank is the same element and type (attacker, amplifier, or tank)

[wispy robin]

there are 5 different teams each has atacker tank and support, new characters gonna always powercreep on of those 15 roles

[shadow holly]

there are 15 characters in the meta at all times at least
while a new character will always be much stronger than the previous one in the same role, it still takes a couple of years on average to replace a character

[azure cove]

huh, ok then, so its not too bad?

[wispy robin]

you can use one char 1-2 years till powercreep on average

[pseudo locust]

yeah not much
but still get the new s rank

unless it's free

[azure cove]

oh alr, besides the water lady, who should i get as my selected S rank in base banner?

[floral plover]

And a few exceptions that went for a full 3-4 years (or less than one)

[pseudo locust]

base banner selector is a one time use

[teal coyote]

Why would anyone care for meta if they are not spending diabolical amounts of money on the game?

[shadow holly]

considering you can guarantee all new characters it's not bad
unless ur someone who wants to skip someone for some reason

[short radish]

Manga better anime is the worst

[azure cove]

oh, so how do i get chars from previous patches then?

[pseudo locust]

via getting enough standard pulls (60 after beginner) or anniversary banner

[shadow holly]

1. there is no reason not to
2. with budget spending like MPA + small BP tier you can be very competitive and get to the highest rankings if you're good enough

[teal coyote]

most probably, more lewd I'd guess xD

[pseudo locust]

using BC on standard is not recommended

[azure cove]

ohhhhhhh, so standard banner is the selector for 60 pulls?

[shadow holly]

here's the catch
if you don't have selectors or whatever, most of the time you just don't

just build your teams accordingly to characters coming out
so it takes a while to "catch up" as in have teams of all elements up and running

[pseudo locust]

yeah, though for now since you just started yours should be 40/40

[short radish]

Not censored not butchered doesn't cut and connect random scenes want more?

[pseudo locust]

instead of 60

[rose yew]

1. Husbando > meta

[azure cove]

ye so who should i pick?

[teal coyote]

Damn 2015 it was a while back

[stiff elm]

@shadow holly

you there, play rabbit adn steel with me

[short radish]

9 years

[woven haven]

meta isn’t about scoring highest in leaderboard

its about stretching the rewards you can get with whatever you have

[shadow holly]

optimally, wait for next patch and get Lamia if you don't have her

otherwise Lucia Crimson weave is the best choice you can make right now

[woven haven]

Maybe you can’t retain legend as f2p/low spender but you can certainly try to maintain as top 6 in hero or smth

[azure cove]

so i just gotta wait until next patch then? when will that be

[woven haven]

Or for ppc later, just entering onslaught is most of the rewards and is good enough
and its defo f2pable

[shadow holly]

a month

[woven haven]

[shadow holly]

it will probably be a bit boring but fish is fun

[azure cove]

dumb question ik, where do i see the menu to look at what a chars pings do? i cant find it😭

[woven haven]

skills -> orbs

in the character screen

[azure cove]

thank you brotha🙏

[short radish]

Aether should i skip sss qu?

[teal coyote]

tbh not talking about power of character just going off looks and feel of gameplay lucia murders fish lady 100 to 1

[woven haven]

What is your account even like in the first place

Ss0, ss3?

[wispy robin]

there are 2 chars you can get in dorms for free alisa and ayla
you get free selector where you choose rozetta
you chose lamia from standrd banner next patch
then there will be s rank selector in luna patch where you can get scire
and you can farm a rank vera to sss rank so you can have full dark team which going to carry you

[azure cove]

thank you

[short radish]

Mix ss3 and sss

Only bianca ew is ss0

[livid lark]

but for meta reasons it's necessary to look past that and grab the unit anyway

the content in this game punishes you hard for not following with meta

[teal coyote]

sadge

[feral pollen]

the capybara upgrade we need

[woven haven]

would say wata is more priority to sss cuz tank power + gives you a massive in edge in both fire and void

Ice on the other hand is alone

[shadow holly]

damn i love edging in fire and void

[woven haven]

even if it helps with qu malding
sss qu is a bit less value in total teams

than sss wata

[azure cove]

so for my base banner i pick rozetta, then for my standard i pick lamia next patch, and then pick scire in my S rank selector in luna patch and then farm vera to SSS?

[shadow holly]

Rosetta
is from a free selector
NOT from banner

[short radish]

yea but who likes void its cope team anyway

[azure cove]

oh, i dont know how to get that selector

[wispy robin]

just lvl up and do missions

[azure cove]

so how does team placement work? like the red/blue/yellow slots? does it matter?

[rose yew]

Ingame ch 1 is silent? did they all get unhinged and got the hammer

[shadow holly]

you should have a button with "guide" somewhere in the main menu (not the mentor one)
the newbie guidance missions reward an S rank char selector + a 6* weapon selector
from there you get Rosetta and her signature weapon

[ebon adder]

so wata higher priority then qu?

[woven haven]

in terms of coverage

obv you still want both raised

[ebon adder]

yeah

[shadow holly]

new gen tank SSS is just that strong + usage in multiple teams

[woven haven]

its just if you were on a smaller budget sss wata provides more upfront value

[ebon adder]

but im f2p so... priority matters

[woven haven]

As f2p just get both

don’t worry about wep or cub first

just get the chara

[shadow holly]

that "priority" was for getting one of them to SSS so it's not in your equation anyway

[woven haven]

@shadow holly u know
looking at past units

[ebon adder]

lets say for getting the chara though, which has higher priority

[upper egret]

both

[thorn creek]

all upcoming characters

[velvet agate]

Is sss wanshi > sss wata if the person have limited budget or sss wata still provide more than sss wanshi?

[woven haven]

Wata - Almost no orb rng
Qu - worst rng known to man
Luna - Some orb rng, not much
Hanying - Complete 0 rng
Wanshi - Almost no rng, but still a little
Lucia - Complete 0 rng
Nanami - Almost no rng, but still some

Wow how did they ever design qu

[shadow holly]

I mean
getting all new chars is essential anyway
but I guess Wata is more important cuz void usage

[upper egret]

though if you still have the standard selector you can grab one 2 patches later so

[shadow holly]

ice cancer
wanshi got male debuff

[wispy robin]

how about saving all that bc for nanami sss

[woven haven]

sss wata upfront early better
sss wata late quite a bit lower prio cuz nanami now exists to fill void tank too

limited budget i would presume means ss3 gachas and sss vouchers anyway

[velvet agate]

Yea fair but the gap between wata and nanami is a bit long ☠️

[shadow holly]

tbf I'd assume SSS Wata would be higher prio for void than SS3 nanami right?

[woven haven]

Yes

[thorn creek]

wata only held back due to male debuff

[woven haven]

Whoever has swap cd active is automatically the optimal choice

[thorn creek]

and age

[woven haven]

wata actually holds his own very well still tbf

at least doing better than wanshi

[velvet agate]

So sss wanshi is rarely used for void?

[woven haven]

wanshi’s niche of ice affix not relevant yet

[thorn creek]

Is wanshi still mid cuz his EDB is limited until SSS?

[woven haven]

if no other swap cd tank at sss then use wanshi

if you have others then use them

which is just wata and nanami

[short radish]

You guys say sss and sss but do you ask if money exists to sss

[woven haven]

His edb is limited till sss3 and above

His sig and sss buffs are independent bonuses

[thorn creek]

oof

[woven haven]

so there’s technically no dilution

[velvet agate]

No one actually asked about higher invest kit situation if they can't afford it

[thorn creek]

guess they gotta nerf free units somehow

[woven haven]

meanwhile lucia sig mem and nanami sig wep/mems are not independent
they’re fake “double dmg” modifiers that are +100% edb in math

[remote pier]

nerfing all the males

[woven haven]

so technically wanshi has privilege here

[short radish]

What about s+ tho🤔

[thorn creek]

still the male characters debuff allegations is strong with Kuro

[sand laurel]

some people say sss+ or brick

[woven haven]

Wanshi gets independent modifiers

[zinc jungle]

if the money doesn't exist, just borrow

[short radish]

True tho

[woven haven]

lucia/nanami get +100% edb

which is actually screwing with math

[velvet agate]

More rare because ppl who can sss+ all units don't really care abt team setups / dmg numbers and straight asked abt ppc/wz rot instead

[shadow holly]

doesn't his sig and SS say "doubles" too
still scammed?

[woven haven]

ss doubles is a unique GR issue

[shadow holly]

[thorn creek]

steal*

[woven haven]

cuz its +100% base in CN text

[raw swift]

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[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[velvet agate]

Hmm so is it worth to sss wata just for cd swap when sss ing wanshi is more easier because wanshi is avaliable from vouchers?

[woven haven]

Wata gives u the advantage for

3-4 patches

in that time no one without sss wata is beating you tbh

except maybe sss luna ss3 wata vs ss3 luna sss wata

[velvet agate]

Oh yeah was wondering about which is gonna win with these comparison too

sss luna with ss3 wata is better?

[woven haven]

prefer sss wata ss3 luna

[short radish]

What about s+ everything

[woven haven]

cutting wata/amp field time as much as you can is a priority

• wata ranks again have fire team value too

[shadow holly]

SSS Wata SS0 Luna

[velvet agate]

[sharp grove]

Thanks