📨・meta-help

[woven sable]

show pics or banned after halloween

[thorn creek]

Ur what’s wrong

[civic cloud]

Let’s compare BRS and palefire both at SSS+ and with their sig and Lee is leaped who deals more damage?

[river nymph]

ok but only from the waist down

[stone gulch]

wata

[woven sable]

nah i dont want to see the wheelchair

[river nymph]

???

[remote pier]

[river nymph]

ableist mfer

[civic cloud]

[river nymph]

[civic cloud]

@thorn creek @river nymph any suggestions?

[thorn creek]

Imma be honest. I think it’s best u ask a friend or family. Im a stranger to u

[river nymph]

ok let me pull lee sig rq

[hidden forum]

Whaduhell

[remote pier]

[woven sable]

brs is better since not male

[civic cloud]

I won’t fall for that reason of yours again

[woven sable]

but its different between 1 and 1.1 on scale of 100

[civic cloud]

Come on man that’s not needed I don’t want my name on your palefire sig

[hidden forum]

Dress like yuri

[river nymph]

[thorn creek]

Prob equal but Lee was def easier invest

[river nymph]

i already have

[hidden forum]

[remote pier]

send pics

[hidden forum]

Is it on twitter

[civic cloud]

[shadow holly]

(his Palefire is r3 already)

[normal sierra]

@shadow holly what Luna times you did?

[hidden forum]

I have r3 entropy sig on palefire

[river nymph]

should i?

[civic cloud]

As a fellow guild mate I’ll just give you one suggestion Beware of traps

[hidden forum]

[woven sable]

nah twitter sux

[shadow holly]

12/15/16/18
p/f/f/f
I actually don't even know if I bricked lol
I didn't have much time for the runs

[civic cloud]

So what do you think who’s better?

[thorn creek]

Has good arts tho

[river nymph]

anyway back to pgr

[civic cloud]

What is that scale

[river nymph]

are you guys enjoying the chess event?

[thorn creek]

Yesh

Blade mode op

[civic cloud]

Ye but would have been better if we could play the whole chess without starting in the middle

[hidden forum]

Finished it one try

[river nymph]

i wish there was more of it

[hidden forum]

Wasn’t as hard as dq said

[river nymph]

nothing ever is

[hidden forum]

Strat is to kill all the other pieces then leave the king for last

[onyx palm]

yeah it's pretty easy

[woven sable]

the unkillable stuff is annoying

[onyx palm]

next ones might be hard 🗿

[river nymph]

yeah honestly i feel like it should auto win if only the king is left, nothing he can do alone

[hidden forum]

Eh not too bad tbh

[normal sierra]

ohh 18 chaos
tried to figure it out based on your score but gave up
you have vid of that 18s run? did you skip some hyperbrick ores or just fast start?

[woven haven]

I checked newer weathers in PGR from Wanshi onwards
and holy moly kuro really just gave up so badly

[woven sable]

not too hard but kinda annoying

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

its all bland dmg ups

[hidden forum]

Make the king invincible next

[woven haven]

Its not even interesting conditions to get it anymore

[woven sable]

basically forcing u to have different good teams

[woven haven]

as trash as cw weather was it was more innovative

[shadow holly]

https://youtu.be/vQB1fZTYEnY?si=FiKgYyQzDNhA_8bn
just get 7 red

[woven haven]

now its stuff like +30% dmg bonus on 3p, stacks up to two times

[shadow holly]

a bit of an overkill even

[woven haven]

or just +60% dmg bonus on ult

[river nymph]

boring

[hidden forum]

Just bring clown wz back

[normal sierra]

bruh

[shadow holly]

🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴

[river nymph]

[hidden forum]

🔴🟡🔵🔴🟡🔵🔴

[wispy robin]

@woven haven between luna and wata who is higher reso priority?

[shadow holly]

I'm not aether but I'd say Luna because she eats 3 course orb meals

while for Wata it would be "just" more damage
as long as ur not trying to run shakes with no dlt

[wispy robin]

i'm thinking to use this for reso since it's just lies there anyway

should use the orb reso right? you can't change it after choosing anymore?

[river nymph]

you can change it whenever

[wispy robin]

oh nice

[twilit wharf]

I think it will need another equipment tho

Or maybe I’m wrong

[wispy robin]

ok lets see if my score will grow now..

[thorn creek]

If u got the skills, u can achieve anything

[wispy robin]

huh playing her became x2 easier now but it still barely improved my score

[shadow holly]

it would probably take a bit of time to adjust your rotations to her having more resources

[thorn creek]

Baby step

Soon you’ll be top 1%

[shadow holly]

right away it would just seem easier to play but if you don't know how to utilize these extra orbs, it won't do much

[wispy robin]

there is probably benefit in holding ult till the void shields appear but you would need to remember all the timings for it

[rose yew]

Free steam 50 bucks in bot info channel

[thorn creek]

Was it worth it?

[rose yew]

Always is

Free monthly and battle pass for a week

[near tiger]

How does one level up fast, I'm lv 46 and I already finished dailies (can't do guide mission rn)

[rose yew]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[near tiger]

Make sense

[rose yew]

Serum pass

[near tiger]

I'll pass on that

[rose yew]

[woven haven]

daily misinfo: you should spend your vouchers on Mem USBs frfr

[rose yew]

Aetherlao joining the brickistan

[barren plank]

Aether misinfo wtf

[woven haven]

you should use wanshi glaciation mode in ice wz frfr

[zinc jungle]

get a mentor

[near tiger]

I alr have one, But the mission is phantom and warzone

[woven haven]

time to offer misinfo advice and see who falls for it

[deft apex]

Everyone

[woven haven]

to see who has critical thinking skills

[livid lark]

[deft apex]

If aether said it = true no matter what

[barren plank]

"Remember, if Aether says so, it must be true"

[woven haven]

on the other hand looking at empy leap skills has me depressed
because this has so much qol and stuff
but it doesn’t save her from dv slaving

and later leaps are 70% affix 30% actual buffs

[rose yew]

I can't find the filter button in members tab
Again

[remote pier]

Aether still fail to make Miku quality graphs though

[livid lark]

those who dont know who he is wont be able to tell the difference

[woven haven]

empyrea leap is like the last proper

full buff leap

[barren plank]

YEAAAA BRING OLD LEAPS BACk

[remote pier]

leap Hyperreal fr

[deft apex]

Totally leap capri like in the olden days

[woven haven]

it’ll be a burn affix leap you idiot

[remote pier]

or they can just remove his cd

[barren plank]

I liked when leaps actually fixed characters and made them viable for teamswap comp instead of just slapping on affix +3ping +5% EDB

[woven haven]

why tho

the CD is his identity

[remote pier]

so I can solo hyperreal

[woven haven]

CW got +90% base dmg to ult at least

but then its diluted by sig mem +80%

[rose yew]

Meanwhile brs has no cool down she can solo without orb issue

[woven haven]

and then diluted further by sss +60%

[barren plank]

[woven haven]

change your name to brick rock shooter now

[barren plank]

Wait actually I never really understood how PGR dilution works

[woven haven]

[rose yew]

Name Already taken nya

[remote pier]

there can only be one nya

[woven haven]

same type of buff = additive with each other
different type of buff = multiplicative

For example
take CW ult
say base dmg of 100
+sig mem 80% +sss 60%

so you have an ult that does 240

now add +90% from leap and you get 330

[wispy robin]

so it is actually still any worth to leap her if she just going to be dv slave?

[livid lark]

omg this is great

[woven haven]

but 330 is only 37.5% improvement over 240

[livid lark]

i paused at that exact moment just for this

[barren plank]

WHAT IS THAT 😭

[woven haven]

yes because it shortens her rotation

[livid lark]

found someone testing brs in wz

i thought it would be funny to show

[remote pier]

nice cub on that brs

[barren plank]

[livid lark]

btw the guy was doing basics on empy

[barren plank]

For how long

[woven haven]

so cw leap ult buff only buffs her ult total dmg by 50% if Non SSS, and 37.5% if SSS @barren plank
hence dilution

[livid lark]

at least 5 in a row

[woven haven]

more buffs = diminishing returns on future buffs

[barren plank]

Oh nvm

[remote pier]

can u link Ek?

[wispy robin]

does she still do any rotation in lucia team if just ss no sig?

[livid lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7fxhtpY84

[woven haven]

No you just double swap between wata and lucia

[livid lark]

just some random posting wz with brs

[barren plank]

Ahhhhh ic
It's still doing more damage tho at least right

Just the increments stall ig

[livid lark]

but i love this because it serves as proof that brs is not feasible competitive-wise

[woven haven]

yeah but that’s why like when you look at cub increases they’re deceiving

lamia cub says +80% ult dmg

but it already has a +100% in sig mem

so its just 40% total increase

[remote pier]

should have known how bad it is as soon as I saw bud start w/ brs

[stuck sphinx]

Better to spend it on CA shards

[livid lark]

all i wanted to see was how far they could get but clearly they're also a bad player

[stuck sphinx]

Memory USB are actually useful

[woven haven]

see the issue is no one in pgr does math right
and thus they know nothing about the actual impact of sig/cub increases

imagine being the guy going “wtf wanshi cub has +250% ult dmg bonus”
not realising he has +400% elsewhere already

[analog coral]

Understandable r3 wanshi sig it is

[woven haven]

actually they say wanshi cub is still stronger than wanshi sig so

[livid lark]

and they forget about harmo + resonances

[woven haven]

tbf if you can’t afford both can you really afford resos

[barren plank]

I had asked cuz once in a while if meter isnt full but I dont wanna spend orbs ill basic for a little
But I will never do it consistently

[woven haven]

the unique case with wanshi harmo is

both him and qu are running 4pc zuwen iirc

[barren plank]

Yes

[rose yew]

Do they not do double rot empy

[woven haven]

you don’t lose that much dropping one

[livid lark]

well true but also those people can't say one is better than the other etc since they don't have the experience to back up that claim

[barren plank]

That's like impossible

[livid lark]

they can only go by hearsay

[stuck sphinx]

Fat cow v2 but real this time?

[woven haven]

oh no gr is making harmo guide

[rose yew]

Not with that attitude

[stuck sphinx]

[rose yew]

8 cottie incoming

[livid lark]

1-2 is fine tho

[remote pier]

gr should tell people to harmo brs

[stuck sphinx]

Probably possible with S+

[barren plank]

Does S+ give orb idr

sss+ empyrea

[velvet hedge]

Liv • Empyrea

<:S_:1005718220663165050> <:amplifier:1003700218639953941> <:fire:1003687700928409784> Skills (Lvl. 18)

** Revelation **
Passive: When switched into battle, Liv: Empyrea gains 40 Signature Energy. While performing Signature - Sea of Sangharama, if the amplification stacks are maximized during Empyreal Prayer, Empyreal Oath will deal 1.5x DMG.

12 / 12

[stuck sphinx]

It gives like 50 energy

[woven haven]

oh nyoooo

[barren plank]

Actually I could see it

I doubt the vid maker has S+ tho

[woven haven]

https://static.miraheze.org/pgrwiki/thumb/1/15/HarmonyGuideInfoPage2.png/1280px-HarmonyGuideInfoPage2.png

hey wait a second this is identical to the harmo guide i made back then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1264815929288560692/HarmoGuideBRS.webp?ex=66fc30e0&is=66fadf60&hm=ceee76024463fba466594a5e5b2931289d2818594f955205f62081b8178f98c9&

[remote pier]

it's still pinned here

[stuck sphinx]

[stray siren]

Muin retained third place legend with Brs rank S

[stuck sphinx]

Muin

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

My score went up 3M after watching muin wz vid

[stray siren]

His narrated videos are pretty good

[woven haven]

ok the gr harmo guide seems to have taken from setsu sheet info so nothing glaringly wrong yet at least

[deft apex]

Its coincidence

[woven haven]

most of the builds seem fine

yeah they definitely consulted setsu on this cuz 2pc wilde is on lucia ion set thank goodness

missing ion set for karen tho oh well

[stray siren]

Yea, Setsu was helping to gr for harmo sets

[deft apex]

No way gr doing their homework

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

9.5/10

they did good this time

[visual topaz]

[sharp flume]

Their website isn't reliable at all?

[deft apex]

Werent you going to sleep like an hour ago

[visual topaz]

Took a shower

[woven haven]

prone to some misinfo at times

[visual topaz]

Now I'm in my bed with mobile discord

[woven haven]

it depends who’s the one writing stuff

[livid lark]

Muin be built different frfr

[visual topaz]

Tf

Muin still plays

[woven haven]

GR site is usually fine

Its the GR YT i have concerns over

[livid lark]

Lina needs to ask around more

[woven haven]

“its fine to skip hyperreal if you’re saving for balter gacha skin”

why would you say that

its like skipping lamia for karen gacha skin

[deft apex]

"You might want to skip hyperreal if: you dont own starfarer or empyrea"

[woven haven]

oh this one is so egregious

[slender aurora]

i mean for the audience its not terrible advice. the yt is where all the causals go

[deft apex]

Probably one of the most misinfo lines coming from them

[thorn creek]

So true. Might as well ignore fire team

[deft apex]

Skip fire cause u dont have fire

Problem solved

[slender aurora]

the real sweats who care abt meta arent stopping at just the yt

esp since theres like..3 pgr videos on yt

[slender aurora]

this one is inexcusable tho like actually

insane hit n run information

[livid lark]

"but-but... casuals might not want to play meta"

[woven haven]

linasera villain arc is revealing she’s just dreamy i mean lisara scarletdream alt account

[livid lark]

nah aintnoway you brought up that name here 💀

[thorn creek]

I love dreamy

Especially with all the drama

[shadow holly]

more like all the actually high level pgr videos on yt are from people who arent really cc's so their channels have like under 100 subs or whatever

[slender aurora]

i mean yeah, they dont wanna play meta and fall behind drastically as a result ultimately their choice

[shadow holly]

or rare people like setsu or muin
who do have an audience
but are obscure for a normal person

[woven haven]

smth smth politicians vs scientists

[livid lark]

a guy called me toxic yesterday when I pointed out the truth of being in gph as a casual and not wanting to follow meta

[slender aurora]

maybe ur phrasing hurt their feelings lmao

[thorn creek]

Ur not toxic

Ur da best

[livid lark]

i may have been a bit blunt but i just spoke truth

[woven haven]

also they’re usually sss or up

[slender aurora]

true true

[shadow holly]

that too

[livid lark]

i guess some of us need to become ccs with our f2p invests

[fringe grove]

I hate f2p

[slender aurora]

yeesh you alr know random internet bro doesn't like hearing truth tho

[shadow holly]

f2p become cc to fund wheling

[floral plover]

where?

[livid lark]

#📨・meta-help message

[fringe grove]

Competitive content isnt interesting generally so yea you dont get much views

Much easier to post SKIP THIS CHARACTER and get 20k views

[dapper skiff]

They like to cope if they can skip anyone so they can max sss+ tank the chara they want

Considering skipping mindset is huge in gayshin

[shadow holly]

my favorite pgr cc is mr. pgrppcdump

[stray siren]

And the algorithm is weird, I posted a video of WZ ice with hollow knight music and it attracted hollow knight players instead of pgr players

[fringe grove]

Based

[dapper skiff]

The algorithm knows what it's doing

[carmine reef]

in a different game where i mostly played on a non-p2w server i actually for about a year played on a p2w server on the side so that i could sell very meager drops ingame for premium cash and then use that on my main account on the non-p2w server

[shadow holly]

💀

[floral plover]

Damn bro chill out, no need to be so toxic Ek, nonono

[woven haven]

Rexlent and Spider2B are like

the only two real popular people making actual guides

meanwhile on the other spectrum we have “he who shall not be named” dropping sss+ garn vs ss cw “comparison” videos or smth

[shadow holly]

tbf the comment was overly corny with the expect to get roasted imo

[shadow holly]

but connor is the best ppc player

[woven haven]

not him

[shadow holly]

he killed lamia ppc in 3 minutes

[woven haven]

he has other issues but this one specifically is the one who matt uh

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

i dont know the lore

[barren plank]

Who is connor

[shadow holly]

haha

[woven haven]

b r * —

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

i have;nt watched a single video from him but ive heard wonderful things

[deft apex]

It would attract me

[raw swift]

ya'll is lamia like a solo carry?

like she can do decent with solo? like enough to do 400k weekly ppc

[river nymph]

yes

[woven haven]

she can solo
she doesn’t like to

[raw swift]

is she like extra reliant on teammate like hyperreal

[woven haven]

the problem is her teammates are either

1. Trash and not worth swapping to
2. Expensive as hell

[raw swift]

I need help with my teams in this game

[woven haven]

she can solo but if you can get the swap team she performs much better

[raw swift]

cuz I can't do 400k

[floral plover]

Not as bad as Lee since she can maintain her rotation, she just needs a bit of help of dlt

as Aether said, it's not worth swapping most of the time since, your only options are a Rozen and XXI (or best boi)
Or a SSS R3 harmo Capri, and SS3 scire (below is better as qte support, but she needs ss3 for her dmg)

[shadow holly]

no dlt solo possible too
its just that solo lamia sacrifices the damage from white orbs in fish form for the sake of consistency and orb sustain
at least wihtout dlt
with dlt prob can do those occasionally

[carmine reef]

i mean let's answer the guy's question

he's asking for ppc specifically

lamia IS solo in ppc

[raw swift]

not warzone..i need help cuz I can't get the extra 80

bc

[woven haven]

ppc is still solo dps in glb

only CN is… different in many ways

-100% edr works wonders

[floral plover]

400k should be easy with Lamia

[carmine reef]

400k would've been easy with luna even

you just gotta build up your account

[floral plover]

yeah

[carmine reef]

it's not a character issue you're probably just missing lots of basic invest points

[raw swift]

is my account that bad? even tho I started at haicma patch

[shadow holly]

ok @raw swift what team are you running
and also watch this
https://youtu.be/pPHPqY1c7rE?si=eoEa9TDJVeg21slv

[carmine reef]

uhhhh LOL

[river nymph]

[carmine reef]

i would say it's pretty bad then yeah LMAO or you have no idea what you're doing

400k is doable with A ranks in ppc

[remote pier]

[floral plover]

out of pure curiosity with no intention of being mean
you are using a dark tank and dark supp, right? @raw swift

[raw swift]

what the problem

[lethal sun]

Everything

[carmine reef]

like i said it's def not a character issue if your only goal is 400k

you should just look up some videos on how to play the characters then

[raw swift]

what do i fix

[remote pier]

record your gameplay or stream it

[shadow holly]

inb4 3 attacker team

[raw swift]

nah I need one for ice and dark

I smell something

[shadow holly]

sure so what are you running to struggle getting 400k

[floral plover]

My bet was more on a fire amp, physical tank and dark attacker

[remote pier]

jambu's brickdar is picking up something

[raw swift]

balter, rosetta, liv + lee empyrea nanami and Idk for third team

i haven't built cw

[shadow holly]

wait where alisa for phys

[raw swift]

sorry I just came back after

[raw swift]

I just returned after lamia patch for feesh and was there for like 1 day

[floral plover]

ohh, returnee, makes sense

[stray siren]

[shadow holly]

thats understandable then
for lamia u want xxi and rozen

for cw arclight and lux

and watch guides how to play the chars or ask

[raw swift]

umm what about vera garnet

umm I have her, is she not existing?

[shadow holly]

oh u have her
yeah
then shes instead of arclight

[carmine reef]

@raw swift https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?usp=sharing

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

wow mods self promotion ban him

[carmine reef]

more like promote him

[remote pier]

this is the only legit tearlist

[carmine reef]

[shadow holly]

tear list indeed
because all it does is bring tears to my eyes from how ass it is

[carmine reef]

my favorite part is pyroath being on there while empy is not in global yet

[remote pier]

Nya! "updated 2 weeks ago"

[livid lark]

where yata and nanaknight

tsk tsk falling behind already

[remote pier]

obv lower than S tier

[woven haven]

you know
i like how they’re doing basic attacks for lucia and nanami now

Special basic attacks dealing extra dmg and energy

[floral plover]

@livid lark I can't wait for Liv to finally get her new Solaeter frame

[river nymph]

is this on huaxu intentional?

[woven haven]

Although apparently nanami basics have poor range so she is prone to missing the attacks

[floral plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978505122499952640/1281093589333704854/ezgif.com-resize.gif

[river nymph]

[sharp flume]

Any decent resources on memory builds

[livid lark]

only 2 places right now are gray ravens and a new bot replacement should be arriving soon

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

current bot has good builds but only up to feral

[sharp flume]

For my (future) phys team

[woven haven]

which version

what are the members and their ranks

[sharp flume]

Bianca Stigmata, Rosetta, Liv Luminescense

All S for now

[shadow holly]

u can just ignore luminance

since alisa is free from dorm dispatch

[sharp flume]

Yeah she's just covering for her until I finally have all the shards

[woven haven]

replace lumi with alisa
as for builds

for now
2dv4signa alisa (lumi can carry 4dv2philip in the meantime)
4leeuwenhoek2catherine rosetta
4charlotte2signa balter

Builds will change in 2 patches

[sharp flume]

Thank you.

[woven haven]

so this is just for now

[shadow holly]

isnt 2signa better than 2leeu for balter

[woven haven]

and it will change 4 more times

oh wait right yeah 2signa not 2leeu

oopsie

[barren plank]

Is it worth it to change from Lee to Signa at this point

[shadow holly]

if u have it built no dont bother

just do the transition to patton on qu patch

[sharp flume]

Also, I missed Lamia, will she join the regular banner

[barren plank]

Next patch

[sharp flume]

I see.

[wispy robin]

is base scire really so considerably better than n21?
i was thinking about choosing empy from luna selector but maybe i should actually go for scire and like buy empy with vouchers

[carmine reef]

yes

but not having empy at all is also really bad

[mighty tusk]

You will need scire for ionization

[wispy robin]

there aren't anymore selector in near future right?

[floral plover]

just for rc or in spending events iirc

[mighty tusk]

cn might get an s-rank selector for their cny up to lamia

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[wispy robin]

she still would be useful for it with s rank no sig?

[mighty tusk]

Better for ppc

Still recommended to have sig

scire qte

qte scire

[stray siren]

With sig weapon. sNazz regretted getting Karen S without 6* weapon, then got her 6* weapon and became the best lamia solo player in eu server

[inland crater]

What is crimson weave's best team?

[shadow holly]

cw, garnet, feral

[inland crater]

Where do I get feral

[mighty tusk]

Gacha

[shadow holly]

nowhere
unless you buy the paid selector now

[wispy robin]

yea i don't think i will be able to backroll for any sigs at this point unless will get superlucky somewhere

[shadow holly]

same for garnet
she isnt even worth getting atp

[inland crater]

I have liv - lux if that works

[mighty tusk]

Cope option

[shadow holly]

works
but u need to get her to ss

[inland crater]

Oka

[shadow holly]

u can farm her shards in the resource tab

[inland crater]

[shadow holly]

[sly junco]

What construct do i get?

[shadow holly]

pretty hard to answer that yk
are you new
are you not new
who do you have
get from where

[idle hedge]

Ideally you get everyone

[sly junco]

Am new
Literally none
From here

[mighty tusk]

How bout wata skippers?

[analog plaza]

When's the patch for old memory buff?

[shadow holly]

ideally wait til next patch and get lamia considering you just missed her last patch

[mighty tusk]

Qu patch

[sly junco]

when next patch

[shadow holly]

a bit over a month

[mighty tusk]

Nov 1 right?

[analog plaza]

Are the buffs any good?

[mighty tusk]

Very

[sly junco]

i need a unit

[shadow holly]

pretty much all elemental memories become mandatory to have on the team

[sly junco]

i've got no one

[floral plover]

you can get a lot of A ranks and the game gives you 2 selectors, you can start from there

[shadow holly]

unless you have no one to carry them properly without sacrificing other things

[mighty tusk]

Well I wouldnt recommend cw over lamia on the standard banner

[sly junco]

is collab unit gud

[floral plover]

no

[mighty tusk]

No

Wait for next patch for fire main dps

[sly junco]

i see

its still in a month

[analog plaza]

Will it be the go to for harmony? Like getting the 4 pc

[shadow holly]

brs is mainly just a collection item
if u wanna play her for fun then play her for fun but shes not good, as collab units shouldnt be in a game where meta matters
considering theyre unobtainable once the event ends

[mighty tusk]

Scire wants bathlon
Garnet heisen
Balter ss0 patton

[floral plover]

You can get her for free in the event to fill the gap or keep yourself busy with a character

[mighty tusk]

Qu uses chej

Shakespeare is a bit hard to insert in the fire team

[shadow holly]

and that, kids, is why triple harmo is op
because you move eins to ur amp

though i guess ss0 feral doesnt lose too much since u can just sub eins instead of 2guin for wz

[mighty tusk]

My capri loved it

[shadow holly]

not like ur doing multi ults

[floral plover]

tbf, most of the need for triple harmo is Qu's patch fault

[mighty tusk]

Wait I need to build balter patton

[winged marsh]

what is the final atk of weapon, is it the last atk of the basic combo?

[flat heath]

just cope through the game for a month and rejoice after trust

literally me rn

[sly junco]

coping is hard

[floral plover]

Sometimes I kind of wanna leave my physical to brick, just for the issue of having to build 18 different sets for a certain someone

[granite bane]

What the mean of triple harmo?

[livid lark]

learn to be patient

[livid lark]

your entire team has harmony

[granite bane]

Oh that

[shadow holly]

final atk is the atk stat that the weapon provides
but for all effective purposes like weapon resos, it actually doesnt use the weapon's actual atk stat because kuro spaghetti code
it just uses a baseline value of 500

so like
glorious afterglow basically provides a flat 150 atk buff regardless of your weapon stats

[sly junco]

my fingers are getting itchy

[flat heath]

just dont look at the game for too long and youll get through it

[normal sierra]

you did bricc a little, yeah
phy can do 14s elite and your phy can do 15s knight too
me left with 2-3 bars on knight, but your r2 balter can prolly kill

[flat heath]

find other gacha games to gamba in for the meantime

[mighty tusk]

We have wata and qu back to back btw

[flat heath]

[river nymph]

same

[granite bane]

[shadow holly]

damn
alright
well

ill try to compensate maybe ill be able to get a better hell time

[floral plover]

Xeno wants to S+ king engine

[sly junco]

no clue what that means

[granite bane]

Best team to triple harmo??(if i have money to begin with)

[flat heath]

two broken S ranks

[sly junco]

when

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-watanabe-gif-16280256315053586944

[flat heath]

right after this patch

[shadow holly]

considering the usual release schedule of new s rank unit every 2 patches, accomodating for your income and allowing to guarantee all units, this time we have 2 back to back
so its taxing on pulls

[sly junco]

when

[flat heath]

10/31

[sly junco]

nice

[granite bane]

[flat heath]

halloween!

[shadow holly]

either dark or light i'd say

[mighty tusk]

Not nice if you dont have enough

[granite bane]

[sly junco]

wait no
thats still october 31
how about now

[granite bane]

I need some time to save

[mighty tusk]

Do we still full harmo lightning if their only use is wz?

[flat heath]

ummmmmm save!!

[river nymph]

kinda sad we have to cope with watas busted base skin for a year

[barren plank]

It's alright tbh

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

After Wata+empy+qu harmo ig?

[normal sierra]

no, wz is 🚮 anyway, onetap mode

[flat heath]

bro that coating in cn makes me ascend

[dapper skiff]

There aren't any broken harmo after those 3

Hyper harmo is whatever
Only wz

[river nymph]

frfr

[sly junco]

goddammit

[dapper skiff]

Garnet harmo is good post rework Ig?

[mighty tusk]

[granite bane]

[mighty tusk]

Maybe I should leave lightning rn

[dapper skiff]

Kale and glory harmo is

[barren plank]

(Other than WataQu) who should I harmo next?
https://huaxu.app/players/ap/14107661/characters

[mighty tusk]

Heisen good

[idle hedge]

Garnet harmo?

[shadow holly]

its already good cuz u can run 4tifa 4dv for ppc

[flat heath]

This is the only gacha game I play that feels actively bad to pull without saving especially since I know its a mistake

[dapper skiff]

After qu, you have teddy patch for saving harmo

The rest goes to whatever ig

[normal sierra]

and still not have the dmg tresholds to kill faster

[river nymph]

its good

[granite bane]

[idle hedge]

So what's on Scire harmo rn so I can finish harmo dark

[barren plank]

Who's gonna hold Eins tho

[mighty tusk]

Feral

[dapper skiff]

4 Boone 4 bath wz

4 DV 2 Gloria 2 Eins ppc

Gloria or lantern

[granite bane]

[mighty tusk]

Not 4 dv 4 bathlon?

[shadow holly]

just do more damage

[idle hedge]

Bathlon

[shadow holly]

before rework no

[wispy robin]

get n21 a rank she will solo carry your whole early game

[steady otter]

after getting rework on qu patch

[granite bane]

[dapper skiff]

Can do 4dv 4bath in ppc post rework tbh

[shadow holly]

rn before rework 8% shred for 4 mem slots is less than 2sam 2glor provide

[pine slate]

4 dv 4 heisen

[shadow holly]

after rework 15% shred is significantly stronger

[dapper skiff]

You gonna Mald for bath proc on qte in ppc

20% chance

[steady otter]

i need to remake all gameplay on qu patch

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-box-boxing-angry-fast-cat-eating-a-box-gif-10756722895901289016

[river nymph]

she has 6 hits tho

[granite bane]

[river nymph]

better than pulse flat 10%

[mighty tusk]

That's what I've been running

[shadow holly]

either that or ive also seen 4dv 2ein 2glor and 4guin 4heisen feral
but not sure if its any diff

[dapper skiff]

Have u tried it before?

I only have 1 harmo dark

[river nymph]

tried what

[dapper skiff]

4 DV 4 bath Daren in ppc

[shadow holly]

[barren plank]

5*

[river nymph]

no that is awful

[dapper skiff]

[river nymph]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T_5CnVAMJEvpvt3PUVdYkQj8veVem3ooY-S0_yTXvvI/edit

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

6

[mighty tusk]

Surely I'm not that bricked

[barren plank]

oh

[river nymph]

[analog plaza]

What's the best team for clash reflection? This round

[barren plank]

I swear i thought it was 5

[granite bane]

[mighty tusk]

I used dark, phy is also good here

[dapper skiff]

It just your strongest team you have in your account

There's no buff to specific element afaik

[analog plaza]

Oh ok. It's a skill issue then

[mighty tusk]

What if its solo cw with lux?

[granite bane]

Nah my skill issue said no

[dapper skiff]

Test

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/kitteh-kitty-surprise-peep-sneak-gif-16172831

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-box-boxing-angry-fast-cat-eating-a-box-gif-10756722895901289016

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-karenina-pgr-gif-15054777664457666302

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/emang-babi-kau-ini-gif-22277749

[river nymph]

the sfx on the nana skin are insane 💀

https://youtu.be/5a0j98vXxzI?si=xBbN_jC-dBHWE2rH

why is the whistle so loud

[woven haven]

ackshuaaaaaaaaaaaalllyyyyy

ok idr which cr glb has rn

[obtuse sapphire]

Which is better vera rozen or selena capriccio for a lamia team

[dapper skiff]

Lmao

[dapper skiff]

Rozen better for solo in wz

[livid lark]

skill issue rot this fortnight

yknow which one im referring to

[dapper skiff]

Knife rain?

[livid lark]

[remote pier]

[near tiger]

Crimson abyss team?

[livid lark]

bricked

[remote pier]

🧱 &🧱

🧱 🧱

[livid lark]

but if you really have to rosetta and alisa

[quiet lily]

how to get more vouchers

need 4k more for sss crapi

[delicate isle]

[woven haven]

teethfa

[obtuse sapphire]

I'm f2p and if I'm gonna start recharging what is best to buy? Like monthly passes or etc etc

[thorn creek]

Monthly pass A

Then battle pass tiers

Then any other packs

I know cuz whel

[remote pier]

another f2p to whel

[livid lark]

yea don't bother going past the battle pass unless you're dead set on competing at a high level

otherwise can just make do with MPA + BP each patch

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

[quiet lily]

[obtuse sapphire]

I'm js gonna be a shrimp spender, me poor

[remote pier]

RC > 0 = whel

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-gif-23581500

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979392387803672616/1249601037745000490/1717126070106.gif

[mighty tusk]

😭

[upper egret]

there are no f2ps in ba sing se

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

we are in ba sing se wdym

[carmine reef]

there is no ba sing se in ba sing se

[ashen edge]

[floral plover]

there's no... "whels" here in ba sing se

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-air-bender-joo-dee-smile-happy-gif-17283492

[upper egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1282565438894637057/20220403_194328.gif

[livid lark]

i say that as liv has a gun pointed to my back

[raw swift]

[thorn creek]

Still would. Next question

[raw swift]

Guys, I need something confirmed

[rose yew]

what is it nya

[raw swift]

Empy, Pulse, and Wata will be better than Empy, Pale, and Wata right?

[remote pier]

[floral plover]

should be, I think

[raw swift]

Since wata will technically be the main dps

[remote pier]

solo wata?

[raw swift]

Sorta, yeah

Pulse is for Armor Shred right?

[remote pier]

probs then. Just need some good Pulse class reso

[floral plover]

it would still be solo wata with pale but with pulse you can give her shake and eins

[remote pier]

but palefire can crit

[raw swift]

Good to know, good to know

Wata empy switch possible?

[raw swift]

But still, Empy Pulse Wata will be better?

[remote pier]

yup

[floral plover]

4p Darwin for 100% physical attack with your fire

[woven haven]

oh no a gr yt vid being shared on reddit

[remote pier]

is dat Furylao vid?

[raw swift]

Help me guide this new player

[sly junco]

Help

[teal coyote]

Hey

[remote pier]

just give up

[sly junco]

Need a unit

[remote pier]

it's pgr-general

[raw swift]

@teal coyote you can ask here for help gameplay wise

[quiet lily]

[woven haven]

lina

[teal coyote]

Sure thanks

[floral plover]

It's only a month dude, be strong and save, you need like 30k bc for what's about to come
Do your missions for selectors

[remote pier]

why are you posting that sht misinfo here

[sly junco]

What selectors

[floral plover]

You get one for free on email, and other 2 for completing newbie missions

[rose yew]

do you mean rc? for 30k rc milestone selector

[sly junco]

Email?

[teal coyote]

@raw swiftAtm I'm pulling on her weapons

[floral plover]

whels, pure, unethical whels

[raw swift]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

BRS????

[teal coyote]

Yeah

[raw swift]

DUDE

[rose yew]

best weapon ingame fr

[raw swift]

please, stop

[remote pier]

another one for Jambu

[raw swift]

BRS is trash

[rose yew]

doubles the entire rotation damage

[sly junco]

[raw swift]

It's not gonna be useful to you @teal coyote

[rose yew]

did you just pinged yourself

[sly junco]

You pinged yourself

[raw swift]

Yes

[rose yew]

based af

[floral plover]

in game mail, sorry hshs
If you REALLY want some A ranks, be sure to set the standard selector to random so you don't jinx yourself, and stop pulling as soon as you're close to pity

[teal coyote]

xD what do you mean

[raw swift]

@teal coyote Dude, Unlike Lee, BRS needs REAL money to level up

You'll be wasting it if you go on

[remote pier]

bc isn't real money

[floral plover]

it's gonna cost you real money later if you wanna keep up

[raw swift]

Yeah but unlike Palefire you can only get BRS shards through gacha

And you know what that means once a new player runs out

@teal coyote don't, for the love of Kuro, don't continue pulling for BRS or her weapons

[teal coyote]

Did I get scammed by this chart xD

[raw swift]

It's best you do the guide missions and tutorials first

[floral plover]

oh he's going for it
Oh nyooo

[raw swift]

NOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[teal coyote]

Wait xD can the game be completed using using this character ?

[raw swift]

I won't lie

[remote pier]

giving brick dmg and more dmg still doesn't change a brick from being a brick

[raw swift]

It's trash unless you level her up like a crap ton

And to do that, you need around 50k BC

Which, for a new f2p, is gonna suck

[raw swift]

This chart is correct, but the 'damage' part even at maximum invest is still low compared to others where you can spend black cards on

[teal coyote]

I want to use her as main character since she kinda the whole reason why I even downloaded this game xD

[river nymph]

then go for it

[raw swift]

[river nymph]

play the game how you want

[raw swift]

You can for the story missions I guess, but for the other content...

[river nymph]

all these meta slaves are cringe anyway

[floral plover]

SSS just so she doesn't run out of orbs, which, could get you, idk, 3 different S ranks

[raw swift]

To put it gently, she won't be optimal

[remote pier]

anyone bingo yet?

[river nymph]

[raw swift]

Yeah story can be completed by using her

[floral plover]

said the one with the S+ Lamia

[rose yew]

Patch Mt is long over lmao

[river nymph]

[teal coyote]

Awesome yeah I was just thinking of pumping all the free stuff I get into her

[river nymph]

im not a meta slave, the meta is my slave

[raw swift]

@teal coyote before doing anything like pulling for a character or anything similar, please ask here

[river nymph]

[floral plover]

Can I be yours?

[river nymph]

[floral plover]

[rose yew]

It's fine they're here to have fun not play competitively and lose their hair in the process
Just let them be

[raw swift]

As much as I hate following the meta, new players bricking themselves just hurts to think about

[raw swift]

Do you plan to play the game for long? Or getting higher scores because some rewards may be locked behind it?

[raw swift]

I guess you're right, can't really stop them if they want to

[teal coyote]

Since I got steam library that's growing every month and I was hoping to complete campaign in this game in some 100h hours ?

[raw swift]

All we can do is provide advice

[rose yew]

We have campaign?

[river nymph]

ngl, a new player would prob have way more fun just playing their fav character than trying to endlessly catchup to meta

[raw swift]

Hoo boy you're in for a wild ride then

[remote pier]

gotta do the pgr mods too

[raw swift]

Ignorance is bliss

[rose yew]

Anyway ingame story isn't finished it's a live game so story is added every month or so

[river nymph]

[teal coyote]

I mean story mode what ever it's called xD this thingy

[raw swift]

@teal coyote You need serum to do story missions, and you get a fixed amount daily

So it'll take you a whike

You'll also need to level up your characters since eventually, the difficulty will increase

[rose yew]

Ye it's not finished yet
But you don't need to build units for future story anyway since they give you trial unit to use

[teal coyote]

Oh so it's not like hoyoshils game where I kinda played thought whole story in like 2 weeks xD

[raw swift]

👆

[raw swift]

There's a lot of stories

The side stories also kinda long

[floral plover]

and side stories, and extra stories, and character stories, and event stories

[raw swift]

This patch also Has a sorta short story for BRS

[raw swift]

Yup

There's a lot of story content

[teal coyote]

I mean I don't mind if it takes few months, game also plays pretty good on phone so I can play it like that as well

[raw swift]

It's pretty optimized for mobile lmao

[teal coyote]

Not gonna lie it felt easy playing it on touch screen

compare to keybinds

[raw swift]

Don't worry, you'll get to the hard parts soon enough

[teal coyote]

But I've kinda xD? fixed it idk if you all play like this or am I total degen xD

[raw swift]

Just preference

[rose yew]

It depends on how much time you spend on keyboards gaming vs touch screen

[raw swift]

Just remember to do the tutorial missions and guide missions. The materials are quite useful, especially for new players.

[teal coyote]

No way in hell was I reaching past 4 by default

Yeah I'm doing those as I go that's why I asked you who those 2 chracters were in dm xD

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1272193716425195543.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=livwhat

[raw swift]

For context yall, he asked me who Pulse was

[teal coyote]

I did not expect to like that mech girl as much as I did xD that pose in practice tool was wild

[raw swift]

Ah you mean Nanami: Starfarer?

[remote pier]

Nanami who?

[teal coyote]

yeah that one

[teal coyote]

The way she rides that mech is freakyyyy

love it tho that's like one character I'd like to get besides this girl in your pfp

[raw swift]

Hey, fanservice gets kuro money

[raw swift]

Oh...

Uhm, how do I say this

She's kinda obsolete due to next patch

[teal coyote]

oh no I joined too late xD

[raw swift]

Next patch will be a new fire tank. Who somehow acts as both tank and DPS

[teal coyote]

but is she gonna be like diabolically power crept like 2x 3x times or just a little bit worse than new chracter ?

[raw swift]

the meta fire damage dealer will become sub dps due to him lmao

[raw swift]

She already is powercrept

[floral plover]

Though, she gets her revenge as a lighting tank in a near future

[teal coyote]

That sounds like awesome deal than tank and dps in one unit

[raw swift]

Yeah, Nanaknight damage is gonna be INSANE

[crimson hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113554666366709861/1289385251046559804/1289053282735751199.gif

[teal coyote]

is she like only mech character ?

[teal coyote]

because robots are cool for real

[raw swift]

Technically speaking, almost every playable character is some form of robot

(I say almost because BRS exists)

[teal coyote]

yeah got that from the story so far

but this chick literally has a mech of her own xD that has to count for extra cool points

[raw swift]

Although in the future we can play as Shikikan (Outside of combat ofc)

[carmine reef]

you already play as shikikan outside of combat

that's called playing the entire game

[raw swift]

I meant having an actual controllable model

[floral plover]

[raw swift]

[floral plover]

skk using Alpha and Plume's ults like nothing

[remote pier]

[carmine reef]

he could probably use wanshi ult tbh

[raw swift]

https://youtu.be/yp9UBbyiykk?si=irQnSOS4gfUmEod4

[carmine reef]

we know he's trained with firearms

[raw swift]

Actually that makes the most sense

[floral plover]

watanabe´s

[raw swift]

Imagine Shikikan's ult being Artillery fire or something

[sly junco]

Who’s pulse?

[raw swift]

Like, he'd punch in some coordinates and a large Artillery cannon from God knows where realigns it's barrel slowly. Then fires, and deals a crap ton of fire damage

[raw swift]

Nanami: Pulse

[sly junco]

Is good?

[raw swift]

Pretty decent

[remote pier]

[sly junco]

Among these

[carmine reef]

she's bad but she's the least bad out of the options in that selector

[raw swift]

Yeah pulse is the best one out of those

[remote pier]

[sly junco]

Newbie Selectors are ass?

[carmine reef]

that one kind of is

second one has rosetta though

but other than her the second one is also ass

[raw swift]

There's another one that has Rosetta, and she's part of the current meta phys team

[carmine reef]

so 95% of the options are ass

[raw swift]

Correct

[sly junco]

Is that the one in the 7 day newbie

[sly junco]

Newbie selectors are ass

[carmine reef]

it is what it is

[raw swift]

I think so? I don't really remember

[raw swift]

Sadly 😔

[floral plover]

we need updated selector smh

[raw swift]

Then let's all kidnap John Kuro and force him to give us what we want

[flat heath]

cope your way to victory

[sly junco]

I can’t cope

[flat heath]

if I can you can

[sly junco]

Can I at least do one 10x

[raw swift]

Hey, a bunch of us are coping right now (Like me)

It's pretty easy to do

[flat heath]

peak gaming no cope

[woven sable]

most ppl are cope briks

[raw swift]

Is this @sly junco's?

[sly junco]

You have more units than me

[raw swift]

Nvm

[flat heath]

if youre talking about BRS banner that pity wont carry over to anywhere

[sly junco]

Not the BRS
Standard

[flat heath]

whats your id?

[raw swift]

@teal coyote same goes for you my guy

[sly junco]

I’ve literally got no one but pulse

[ionic hatch]

The pity stays but don't use black cards for standard,only blue ones

[flat heath]

Oh I pulled the 40 pity standard to get a random S rank to cope with and it just so happened to be hyper lee

dont waste your standard check though save that for lamia

[sly junco]

And the 2 b ranks

[raw swift]

Then do the missions to get rewards to get stufd

How do I show my unit list again? I forgor

[flat heath]

and dont use BC on standard just use the cards you get from guide missions

[flat heath]

itll be enough

I just accidently hyperlinked that lol

but thats the website to view profile

My final interlude these free BC will be missed 😿

[sly junco]

I’ve lost my account

[flat heath]

what??

what happened 😭

[sly junco]

I have no clue

[flat heath]

did you not bind it to an email or smth?

[raw swift]

I have a bunch of lvl 1s

[sly junco]

Nvm i found it

Its a guest account

[flat heath]

make sure to bind it

[raw swift]

I haven't done those yet

[raw swift]

Yeah or he'll lose pulse lol

[teal coyote]

@raw swiftoh no I think I'm overcooked my man

[rose yew]

Youre fine

[remote pier]

[flat heath]

he just started to be fair so it wouldnt be that bad LOL

[raw swift]

Nah since you're new that's ok

[sly junco]

How?

[sly junco]

This mf got better units than me

[flat heath]

great question I never started with a guest account 😭

[teal coyote]

peak cinema xD

[raw swift]

It should be in the settings

[sly junco]

Where

[flat heath]

its the button at the very bottom right > then the cog > and then account

[carmine reef]

whel

[woven sable]

whel

[flat heath]

I HAVENT SPENT A SINGLE BC BRUH

IVE BEEN SAVING STOP THIS

[woven sable]

[upper egret]

k whel

[flat heath]

[carmine reef]

anyone can copy the same screenshot that's been posted here smh

[sly junco]

It said account binding failed on all

[flat heath]

[rose yew]

Fire team in phys

[flat heath]

[ebon adder]

how do i know the rotation for my teams? where can i find a guide?

[rose yew]

Depends on your investment

[raw swift]

It's the only proper team I have

[carmine reef]

tbh
if you're going to swap anyway then you should've just swapped off of empy after core so that you could have her ult within amp passive

[rose yew]

Or you could just experiment the team yourself and see how it goes

[steady otter]

ugh

https://tenor.com/view/you-deer-deer-dark-souls-nokotan-my-deer-friend-nokotan-gif-15144319581244726751

[rose yew]

Where brs why palefire

[raw swift]

Besides my uninvested phys team and uninvested dark team ofc

[ebon adder]

Specifically my physical team, rn i have rigor , stigmata and echo. All s ranks and only rosetta have sig weapon. stigmata is at ultima stage rn.

[raw swift]

See, calling Stigmata Balter is very confusing sometimes

[steady otter]

too many BLACK OCK SHOOTER here

[pine slate]

Ur fire team doesn't even have basic human rights

[flat heath]

hurts my head

[upper egret]

black what shooter?

[raw swift]

Damn

[pine slate]

Ock

[steady otter]

OCK

[ebon adder]

sorry mb

[floral plover]

fire team from the darkest pit of hell

[upper egret]

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/blackrockshooter-the-game-black-rock-gif-10839052

[sly junco]

What are yall talking about

[carmine reef]

it's arguably better than mine

[ebon adder]

oh i see, so theres no guide out there huh

okie thanks

[carmine reef]

there are guides but

they are for "baseline" invest ss0, which you are lacking

your playstyle will not match up

[pine slate]

Ye ur investment is too low

[ebon adder]

so if i get them to ss, where can i get the guides?

[floral plover]

the funny thing is that the only advantage it has over yours is Pulse
smh

[carmine reef]

youtube

[pine slate]

Watch wz vids

[carmine reef]

yeah but that's pretty big

[ebon adder]

i see okay thanks

[pine slate]

Or just ask here

[rose yew]

I recommend fury videos

[lethal sun]

The goat