📨・meta-help

[woven haven]

I tried her out in one of the Babel modes and she was fine (albeit she was SS3 + Signature and i regret that forever)

💀

if i didn't roll BRS ranks i could have SSS Wata i think

i got stuck on SS3

[pine slate]

Wait 26s chaos fushen using CA Alisa rose?

[peak halo]

yes

[upper egret]

now imagine that happens and new kuro fans play her in wuwa then want to try pgr because of her, only for cw to be already replaced in the meta

[peak halo]

that the best what i can do

[pine slate]

Ok that's pretty impressive

I thought it's balter score

Wtf I thought CA would take much longer

[deft trail]

so i still need to level up and upgrade my low level units?
not for the bp but for the stats?

[woven haven]

unfortunately she's still going to be "main" umbra dps
even if that's needing a new wheelchair in the form of a 2nd umbra unit

[kindred radish]

What does SSS Wata, SS3 + Signature, and SS3 all mean?

[woven haven]

units have ranks based on how many dupes they have
from A, S, S5, SS, SS3, SSS, SSS3, SSS6 and SSS+, each of these provides significant upgrades and locked passives

[stable cipher]

Hi! How good is shukra? Is she worth in investment?

[woven haven]

so the more dupes you pump into them the stronger they get

[upper egret]

very good, yes

[wind basin]

Yes, best ice dps

[stable cipher]

Is she uniframe or omniframe? Sorry silly question iam newbie

[upper egret]

just feels annoying to play because ice team is kekw
but qu is an insane unit by herself

[woven haven]

as good as every new S rank meta unit
she's worth investing but not worth hyperinvesting into over other units like Wata or Luna because arguably those 2 are more important

[upper egret]

omniframe, uniframes don't get released anymore

[woven haven]

Qu is best Ice Attacker and that's pretty much it

she will be good in Ice content and nowhere else

same with basically most units in the game except for affix situations

[peak halo]

yes if i not have a bit better invest on others
but i have good have r2 ss3(3s work in progress) alisa r1 ss rose

[stable cipher]

Thanks for the answer

[kindred radish]

Around what rank do you think BRS is best at?

[woven haven]

also yeah shukra feels garbage to play despite her scores being good

💀

[upper egret]

ss3 for the "whole kit"

[peak halo]

nah no metter she will be my saver to leader

[woven haven]

SS3 for one of her locked kit mechanics
however i have to mention again
any invest past base A rank free copy requires spending Black Cards and its not worth it by any means because it's not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost
its at worst around 12.5k-15k BC for SS3 BRS, not counting weapon banner, and you can get other much stronger units for the same price

[wind basin]

Unga bunga dmg trash gameplay
Sacrifice have to be made

[woven haven]

she makes experienced malders lose the will to mald and just onetap ice for next 6 months

and those people have SSS 😭

[upper egret]

lmao

[peak halo]

sad

[kindred radish]

What's mald?

[upper egret]

tryhard

[peak halo]

i guess need to mald

[hidden forum]

[upper egret]

[upper egret]

oh no

"how bad can it be" mfers when they see how bad it actually is

[crimson hill]

S+ qu not worth? XD

[peak halo]

so my all pain on one vid

my masoist vein got freaked

[sly geyser]

ngl what ruined the run is bc he didn't dodge

[river nymph]

[stable cipher]

Sorry i didnt get it

[upper egret]

just dodge, just get better orbs

[sly geyser]

basically with Qu if u don't do 3-1-3 ur rotation is ruined

[stable cipher]

What is 313?

[sly geyser]

3 orb 1 orb and then 3 orb again

[stable cipher]

I see, 'the gameplay' right?

[sly geyser]

yeh that's basically her core

[stable cipher]

Understood

[woven haven]

mald orb rng
mald stagger rng
mald solo rng

[woven haven]

no

he tried to use core for the iframes

realistically speaking that is the correct move

however as i've said before

the iframe has a 1s delay

ON QU SPECIFICALLY

[upper egret]

[woven haven]

if you try to iframe smth the moment you see the attack coming you are too late

[remote pier]

[sly geyser]

so bro was bricked since the very start

[woven haven]

this happens because when you hold atk to do core
it registers basic atk first
and qu has a special basic after 3ping that has a VERY lengthy animation

this special basic will play before core

and it does not have iframes

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

so while this animation is transitioning to core, you are entirely vulnerable

and most people don't think to dodge after inputting an iframe move right?

because the iframe is supposed to be up

[somber axle]

Oh I was watching the video and was wondering why they kept focusing on the orbs randomly

[sly geyser]

someone just steal Aetherlao's brain and sell it to me

[river nymph]

so should you tap basic>dodge>hold basic?

[wind basin]

Iframe is not iframing

[woven haven]

yeah if you see only 3p you are a goner

qu is the rare unit who doesn't want all 3pings

but she still wants lots of them

[upper egret]

kenjaku ahh comment

[woven haven]

and she has orb rearrange

which makes it hard to get solo 1 pings

[sly geyser]

[wind basin]

Bruh

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

no
hold basic -> pray no enemy hits -> get staggered -> reset run -> try again

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

or just eat the stagger and continue run

[upper egret]

[woven haven]

cuz who the hell would want to mald qu ice wz

[river nymph]

[night bay]

this wouldn't be an issue with 4 cottie

[woven haven]

the zuwen uptime 😭

[upper egret]

[woven haven]

putting zuwen on glory...

[night bay]

not fun

[woven haven]

😭

[sly geyser]

4 dv 4 zu Glory

[barren plank]

Ew wtf

[somber axle]

So how hard would Qu be to use if you had skill issue

[night bay]

1 hit zuwen procs

[barren plank]

Yes

[sly geyser]

ngl Qu is pretty simple to understand

[upper egret]

[woven haven]

SSS + Sig + DLT -> moderately hard
SS + Sig + DLT -> hard
SS + Sig no reso -> extreme
SS + 5* -> why
S + 5* -> fml

[peak halo]

i had skill issue
she simple just mald

[barren plank]

Orb management is another thing tho

[upper egret]

f2p no rights

[somber axle]

I love how S + sig doesn’t exist

[sly geyser]

just wait for wanshi

[upper egret]

s+ would be the same as 3s in terms of gameplay no? just higher numbers

[lethal sun]

Not having sig in 2024 = quit

[remote pier]

[upper egret]

oh he meant s + sig

[sly geyser]

not having sig in 2024 = who even are you ?

[ripe stag]

SS + sig + dlt is already hell to deal with
Skill issue makes it worse

[sly geyser]

[upper egret]

just 3s

[ripe stag]

S0 ? BRUH ITS 2024

SS0 + R1 sig is minimum

[sly geyser]

welcome to copiumland

[upper egret]

and patch income goes down at some point

[peak halo]

its like just playable with no rights
and run out everything like remain 30s

[barren plank]

[ripe stag]

I like how my CW is 7.3k BP

[upper egret]

crimson weebu

[ripe stag]

While lamia is 7.2k

[peak halo]

harmo?

[ripe stag]

But lamia does twice as much damage as CW

[upper egret]

both have harmo

[ripe stag]

Both harmo

You can see they have harmo

[barren plank]

Wtf I have the exact same BP for both

How and why

[ripe stag]

Show account

[sly geyser]

if it's the same invest then there's nothing surprising

[barren plank]

https://huaxu.app/players/ap/14107661/characters

[ripe stag]

Yea you have same as mine

I mean literally same investment

[barren plank]

True

But like not even 1 difference is scary ngl

[ripe stag]

Nah

Exact same invest = exact same BP

[wind basin]

It will be more weird if there was a difference lol

[sly geyser]

it's the same game ur playing

[barren plank]

How does ur echo have 1 more BP than mine then

[upper egret]

1 bp unplayable

[ripe stag]

Same invest

Your has 7233 BP

[peak halo]

ohh not perfect reso maybe

[ripe stag]

Same as mine

[barren plank]

Wait who was the guy w 34 then

[upper egret]

did this even make a difference?

[ripe stag]

Perfect reso doesn't change BP

[sly geyser]

actually my cw is 7302

[barren plank]

[ripe stag]

How

[lethal sun]

Trash

Not over 8k

[ripe stag]

Maybe R2

[barren plank]

K whel

[sly geyser]

nah wait lemme show u

[ripe stag]

My hyperreal is 69420 BP

[wind basin]

R2 boosting more than 1 bp

[upper egret]

mine has 7.5k ss0

[lethal sun]

Also 1 BP difference is because of 6 ATK + DEF, 6 def actually gives 1 BP

[ripe stag]

Wait def has more BP ?

[barren plank]

lol

[lethal sun]

Yea

[ripe stag]

DUMBDAWN

[ripe stag]

Reso having different BP

[upper egret]

[lethal sun]

That’s why

Matt’s crimson abyss is 6 atk def instead of atk crit

For BP

[wind basin]

[barren plank]

[ripe stag]

Thank god you used Matt as example and not Blanc

[lethal sun]

[upper egret]

blanc the best cw player ever mentioned?!?!!

[ripe stag]

100% Motivated Alpha vs The Twins checks out

[upper egret]

[peak halo]

and i just got a mor 15 atk

[ripe stag]

Guys hows my gen 2 Physical attacker

[wind basin]

No sig unplayable

[upper egret]

wow s+ whel

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mrs-kirby-the-voices-meme-hello-street-cat-ms-kirby-gif-15658643011601805917

[sly geyser]

yeh seems like it

[ripe stag]

Lmao that's so dumb

[sly geyser]

1 free BP from atk+def

[ripe stag]

Somehow
She's my lowest gen 2 BP now

[lethal sun]

No harmo?

[ripe stag]

Why harmo SS0

[sly geyser]

no SS3?

[ripe stag]

What will I harmo anyways? Patton isn't that good

[lethal sun]

Damn this poverty investment too much for me chat sorry

[ripe stag]

The only SS3 I have is CW

[wind basin]

Can’t talk in f2p language

[ripe stag]

I'm focusing to make her SSS+ + R3 sig

[shadow holly]

I mean
you should understand that your zero has literally nothing

it's not about BP
it's about her not being built

[sly geyser]

look at this phat whel

[ripe stag]

I heard CW can solo every content in-game with highscore

[upper egret]

motivated

[ripe stag]

Wtfies

[wind basin]

Why you have ss3 CW? Lucksucc?

[ripe stag]

I'm speaking CW simp language

[ripe stag]

No I don't
That was the joke

[sly geyser]

u used ur standard selector for her ?

[wind basin]

Oh

[upper egret]

[ripe stag]

The only SS3 I have are Kaleido, Hyperreal, Feral

[upper egret]

aren't you keeping selector for hanying

[ripe stag]

All 3 lucksacc

[ripe stag]

I still have the selector

[sly geyser]

hyperreal SS3 ?

[wind basin]

Kaleido and Hyper next patch ss3 Bianca

[upper egret]

luccsacc

[ripe stag]

Man I need Daren

[sly geyser]

ngl those lucky guys are not different from whels

[ripe stag]

Even S0 Daren is fine

[upper egret]

she's on arrival

[ripe stag]

Hell naw

[wind basin]

Oh yeah, I have ss3 Daren too
Forgot she exist

[sly geyser]

oh yeh she's on arrival

[upper egret]

[sly geyser]

try fate for more chance

guaranteed at 4th pull

[wind basin]

[sly geyser]

[fast jacinth]

umm how do i use Noah ticket pls?

cant find it in my inventory :/

[upper egret]

i think that's just a collectible

[shadow holly]

it's just a collectible
you can check it out in your codex -> collectibles

[remote pier]

It's as useful as Noan

[fast jacinth]

ohhh okay i thought it was to summon him

[wind basin]

Daym

[upper egret]

[still moat]

https://youtu.be/tpARhBlwjsg can i still improve my score or am i rank gapped

SS3 balter SS0 everyone else

[glass bay]

When I initially booted into this game with my whale account, I found the PPC battles to be fascinating. Every split second held immense significance as you executed intricate moves, timing each action without a fraction of a second too soon or too late. It was an excellent way to familiarize myself with the diverse characters and how their buffs interacted. Achieving my first maximum score kill left me both exhilarated and slightly anxious about the potential challenges I might encounter while shedding the rust from my time in HSR and Genshin. My accomplishments in PPC wouldn't be possible without people like yourself and Star assisting me when I struggled with comprehending certain boss kills. However, now, it all feels lifeless to me. And Snazz was right in calling it a restart simulator.

[frozen creek]

Whel caught in 4k

[visual topaz]

@deft apex

you know what time is it

[deft apex]

9:34 pm?

[visual topaz]

i meant BC planner

[deft apex]

what time is it livwow

are you going to add ticket rewards too?

livwow

[peak halo]

and this is why i not like ppc
im skill issue

[visual topaz]

i haven't even finished doing Echo's

lamia is ending in 3 days

bruh

links

[velvet hedge]

Useful Links

<:kuro:1030590318443253770> Officials

Website
Youtube
Bilibili

<:info:1030588563961675857> Wikis

Gray Ravens
Bili Wiki
Story Reader

🗓 Planning

BC Planner
Resource Calculator
Coatings Acquisition

📙 General Guides

Comprehensive Character Builds
Rexlent's Spreadsheet
Rexlent Beginner YT Playlist
Character 'Tier List'

<:ultimate:1030590682752110732> Phantom Pain Cage

SS Ultimate
SSS Ultimate
SSS+ Ultimate
Advanced *Outdated, just for archiving.

<:hero2:1030589718821339226> Warzone

Advanced Warzone Tips

[remote pier]

[visual topaz]

how much is Noan Arca anima giving

[glass bay]

I haven't done the last 3 arcade anima yet

[visual topaz]

me neither

[glass bay]

I'm slacc so much

[frozen creek]

I would slack too if I could one tap promote with your whel invest all the time

[visual topaz]

seems to be 250

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

Imagine whel accusing F2p

[deft apex]

250

they all are 250

[shadow holly]

I wonder who that originated from
it feels like exempt writing

[visual topaz]

because it's Exempt

[shadow holly]

damn I'm so good

[glass bay]

[visual topaz]

okay

i start working on bc planner again

[deft apex]

livwow

[frozen creek]

Why plan when you can just s+ everything

[shadow holly]

why livwow tho half of our server funding is gone now

although all the best to the man

[scarlet fern]

How do I acquire someone like stigmata or Lee hyperreal (I took cw from base banner)

[shadow holly]

well guess you just don't
unless you get them from selectors

[glass bay]

Not everyone is 1000000 rc like u

[visual topaz]

wait wtf

@shadow holly u saving 2s kills in GE ?

[frozen creek]

[scarlet fern]

So how do most people get them?
By chance in researching?

[frozen creek]

Remove the 1

[sly geyser]

by being there since day 1

[scarlet fern]

Oh right I never thought of that

[shadow holly]

um
I think I did a couple while the boss was at lvl2 still
at lvl3 it's way too cancer and I only got it once last round with iza's Lamia
others I just do 3s

[visual topaz]

how is that 14 pts diff

[shadow holly]

considering as long as you play consistently, you can get every single debut char guaranteed, all people who have played through their patches would have them
unless stupid skippers

[shadow holly]

cuz 1s is 7 points

[visual topaz]

naur way

[remote pier]

[visual topaz]

i bricked my score

[shadow holly]

[visual topaz]

4s cope

didn't noticed

lmfao

TWICE

[scarlet fern]

Makes sense
I guess I'll have to wait on mommy stigmata

[remote pier]

time to uninstall

[visual topaz]

my disappointment is immeasurable

and my day is ruined

[shadow holly]

boss went too fast past lvl2
I wish I was fast enough to do more 2s kills

but mf went to next level
and gained weight

[visual topaz]

okay so i smh bricked my score

saving 4s twice

without noticing

[shadow holly]

have u done 2s kills

as I said I did like 2
rest 3s

if u did all 3s then the scores are right

[visual topaz]

ow

i only save 3s

if that's what u meant then

you're up 14 pts

[shadow holly]

yeah it was only doable for me at specifically lvl2 boss
without insane mald

so ig I just got lucky logging in at a nice time when the boss was at that point

[visual topaz]

i see

[shadow holly]

bcz lvl1 boss is the fat version

which has death animation

lvl2 is the dynamite one

and from lvl3 and on you can switch between the two

[jaunty beacon]

[shadow holly]

while lvl1 is squishy the death animation makes 2s impossible

unless you do the zaza Balter kill ig

[visual topaz]

lol

zaza balter done on dynamite ver

[shadow holly]

ye but on dynamite it's 1s

so I'd assume it would make 2s on guardian possiblr

[visual topaz]

links

[velvet hedge]

Useful Links

<:kuro:1030590318443253770> Officials

Website
Youtube
Bilibili

<:info:1030588563961675857> Wikis

Gray Ravens
Bili Wiki
Story Reader

🗓 Planning

BC Planner
Resource Calculator
Coatings Acquisition

📙 General Guides

Comprehensive Character Builds
Rexlent's Spreadsheet
Rexlent Beginner YT Playlist
Character 'Tier List'

<:ultimate:1030590682752110732> Phantom Pain Cage

SS Ultimate
SSS Ultimate
SSS+ Ultimate
Advanced *Outdated, just for archiving.

<:hero2:1030589718821339226> Warzone

Advanced Warzone Tips

[visual topaz]

@deft apex rewards/tickets planner might be bruhge

even tho it'd give more accurate plan

cuz we gotta check if they are pattern on guild slot machine

[woven sable]

whats conversion rate from brs ticket to normal tix

[visual topaz]

1:1

Collab to yellow

[rugged raven]

With harmonization out
What’s the main set for Balter now?
Cottie 4 Sig 4

[woven sable]

brs packs not bad then

[visual topaz]

batch 1 packs 12500 collab tickets
batch 1 is 19750 BC
3k Yellow
5k red
1 selector up to echo

[deft apex]

guild slot is only blue, it doesn't really matter that much

[woven sable]

even if ur a brs skipper smh

[visual topaz]

still struck by OCD

same with all these norman pet tickets i've never counted

since it started

[upper egret]

brs packs are only good if you're a brs skipper

[visual topaz]

needs 18 dupes to S+

aka 45K BC

[rugged raven]

Guys my Balter is SS
Well I guess it’s gonna be SS3 anyway once her leap come
So I should go 4 Sig 4 Cottie right?

[woven sable]

is it not 10 pulls per copy?

[frozen creek]

Shameless whel

[visual topaz]

could be less assuming you get double/triple/quad/quintuple brs on your multi

[deft apex]

just ignore them like you've done so far except care about the yellows

[wispy robin]

who would be better vs hamlet qu or watanabe?

[visual topaz]

what about reds

[visual topaz]

isn't luna getting 5 or 6s

[deft apex]

those are relevant too

[wispy robin]

luna still isn't here

[visual topaz]

can wait till end of week

doing hamlet

[deft apex]

though they don't give us much reds

[wispy robin]

idk if ppc will reset with patch or it will change next week already

[visual topaz]

kinda

this patch 3 weapon pulls through bottles

• red tickets from GE

[deft apex]

but this patch is pretty special since .5 anniv

or anniv? can't remember

[woven sable]

this patch is special

bc its fish patch

[visual topaz]

yeah

[deft apex]

feesh cupcake~2

[visual topaz]

have you calced separately the trade voucher in your side last patch?

i wanna compare counts if possible

[deft apex]

nope, never calced vouchers

[visual topaz]

i see

[rugged raven]

Guys my Balter is SS
Well I guess it’s gonna be SS3 anyway once her leap come
So I should go 4 Sig 4 Cottie right?

[visual topaz]

huh

how do we tell him

[upper egret]

[deft apex]

leap in like 9 months

[sand laurel]

whats Best in Segs amplifier for void Luna? 😳

[visual topaz]

her sets are gonna change with each different metas

[deft apex]

that's a whole pregnancy worth of waiting

[upper egret]

depends on invest and situation

[sand laurel]

lets say SSS and R3

wata like ss3 r1

[visual topaz]

for the moment
4 Charlotte 4 Cottie Atk Ult for WZ and rotation gamemodes
4 Charlotte 4 Cottie Atk Core for PPC low stage oneshots
4 Charlotte 4 Fred Atk Core for ppc one shots
4 Charlotte 2 Cottie 2 Darwin for PPC ult 2 kills
4 Charlotte 2 Cottie 2 Fred for PPC ult 2 kills assuming you can't kill with the Darwin set

That's Pre Qu patch, Pre Hanying Release, Pre leap sets

with Qu Patch you're gonna change mostly all 4p Charlotte to Patton

After Solacetune release you're gonna have to change back to charlotte when balter does the kill

or DV Catherine when Hanying is gonna be the DPS

[visual topaz]

highest ranked Amplifier that can trigger 4P Guin

@deft apex

let's hope i didn't mess data inputting in sheet 2 months ago

[glass bay]

ewlao

[visual topaz]

formula returns 3500 trade voucher for Echo patch excluding Clash reflections income

and 4350 Yellow tickets (also excluding CR)

on top of 9300 BC

for short assuming norman clears and exppc 1.5m weekly score that's almost 13k tickets alrdy

[deft apex]

every patch?

[visual topaz]

Echo patch income

[deft apex]

[visual topaz]

overall ticket income

that's like

double the amount from Roland patch

[upper egret]

doesn't the income get reduced post bridget patch or smth tho

[visual topaz]

no clue

i don't follow in depth CN rewards

we came back from the depth of Hell

barely 8k during clown patch

[upper egret]

[visual topaz]

less than 4 weeks patch

49 days in CN to 27 in glb

[static night]

Glb shafted

[upper egret]

lets just do 27 day patches for the next year imo

[deft apex]

27? that's way too low

it's 37 cupcake~2

[visual topaz]

they cutted like 2 whole weeks

[stray siren]

Try to use mantaray just before the ulti, so that both enemies receive the hit, and thus prevent one of the two is healthier and make you waste time, like at 1:39 (WZ time)

[visual topaz]

my bad

3 weeks

[wind basin]

[deft apex]

oh clown patch I read echo

[visual topaz]

Empy patch

[deft apex]

ICANT

[visual topaz]

12888 BC

[wind basin]

-1

[still moat]

thanks for the tips

btw how big of a buff is 75 atk ?

[stray siren]

Good

But only if you have your mantaray in sss

[visual topaz]

High Effort List (BC Alone) :

• EB 8180
• TSL 12888
• RDF 9790
• RwaW 8700
• HLB 8920
• TAB 7300
• AND 10120
• CB 8870
• ATRS 10300
• LU 8450
• SoC 8640
• RDF2 10668
• WS 10290
• TFR 8750
• CU 9010
• SoW 7020
• EJ 9300
• Cradle Parade no count atm

[still moat]

why sss ?

[stuck stump]

Is it viable for a BP buyer like me to top these off with 3 from voucher shop every 28 days?

[upper egret]

vouchers are gonna be in crazy demand soon so probably not?

[stuck stump]

(excluding times when there are achievements that'll do that)

[visual topaz]

can you secure 20 shards per months ?

[stuck stump]

I mean probably, yeah

[visual topaz]

then i don't see the issue

[stuck stump]

How often do new Clash Reflection achievements get added?

[upper egret]

brs patch next

[visual topaz]

literally when they change lineups

[upper egret]

iirc

[deft apex]

livwow

[stuck stump]

Oh okay, how much do new achievements often give?

[visual topaz]

10 accelerators per cycle achievements

11 normal cycles

that's why we got 63 last patch

3 cycles made of (10+21)

[stuck stump]

Oh wow, so technically, One lineup change should cover me for 3 months to maintain the "one harmo per 28 days" thing

[visual topaz]

Qu patch buffs voucher income to 25k

you can even buy 2 months worth of shards per 3 BP

whilst maintaining harmo spending

[wispy robin]

what should you save vouchers for?

[visual topaz]

all leaped char to SSS

[stray siren]

Iirc the pet's buff priority is:

S - Balter buff and 10% Phys dmg
SS - Balter buff, 10% phys dmg and 100atk
SSS - Balter buff 10% phys dmg, 100 atk and 75atk (stack•2)

[visual topaz]

Garnet Scire Empyrea Stigmata CW

[stuck stump]

2 months worth of shards? As in 40 shards by BP spending? Excluding selector shards?

[wind basin]

Every 2 patches new rotation

[stuck stump]

Oh that's great

[visual topaz]

you buy monthly shards from month 1

BP lasts longer than 1 month

so shop resets at end of month

you can buy 2nd batch of 20 shards again

[stuck stump]

Yeah but can 3 BPs cover that?

[visual topaz]

with the new BP you can save leftover trade vouchers and keep buying them for upcoming month

[stuck stump]

Ohh okay, currently trying to SSS my Ayla though. Should reach the goal by the end of Watanabe patch

and by then, Garnet shards will be in demand, so i'm kinda spread thin lmao

[still moat]

oh 100 atk took priority ?

[upper egret]

garnet also gets added in bp tier shards

the 15 ones per bp iirc

[stuck stump]

Yup, i'll stop at SS I think though

[stray siren]

No, wait, miss info , according to this thing i translated, 75atk thas more priority than 100 atk

[visual topaz]

20 shards is 16080
40 shards through monthly reset is 32160

you get 25000 a patch from BP from Polaris Bond patch onward

you cover the missing 7160 with Warzone and patch Trade Voucher

assuming 5 weeks of wz and legend retain you'll be missing

7160-5500 = 1660 Trade Vouchers

[stray siren]

@still moat

[visual topaz]

can modulate the assumptions

less trade vouchers with Hero/Legend yoyoing

more from events

[deft apex]

do you have an updated tierlist thing?

[visual topaz]

everything out of these numbers are bonus trade vouchers

[wind basin]

25k increase is really something jesus

[still moat]

alright

[wispy robin]

so is it still worth investing into garnet since she going to be used with nanami anyway? if so then is cw going to be completely botched?

[visual topaz]

Garnet leap is earliest meta leap among the leap list

adds 10% shred afaik

at SSS

you'll be coping for more than half a year missing it

[static night]

Half a year goes by fast

[stuck stump]

Yeah no, i'll stick to buying 20 shards per BP, thank you lmao. I'll save up vouchers so I can sometimes get 40 shards though, like in CW Leap patch. Good goal?

[stray siren]

Nah, still the same, maybe I'll update it on my next vacation

[visual topaz]

as you want

[static night]

Update it now

[upper egret]

i mean that seems inefficient but

[woven sable]

u can also just buy max shards per time

[visual topaz]

but i'm telling you buying monthly discounted 20 shards for 1 char/reset is possible with qu patch onward

[deft apex]

dalao

[stray siren]

All A cubs perished except deer, thats u update

[static night]

Thanks

[visual topaz]

why Thorny

[stuck stump]

Yeah but it requires legend retain, and having an existing number of vouchers, right?

[visual topaz]

Thorny is kyut

[visual topaz]

assumptions is 0 starting voucher

hero legend yoyo once per week is 950 trade vouchers instead of 1100

[stray siren]

Maybe I should make a tier of cuttier pets

[stuck stump]

Wait so, with 0 starting vouchers, I can get 1char/reset, assuming I get 3 BPs and do all the events? Starting from Qu patch?

[stray siren]

Thorny is SS rank

[deft apex]

mei wu is s+

[visual topaz]

more or less the gist of it

you're missing 7k ish trade voucher for 40 shards

[stuck stump]

But is there a point to it if BP change doesn't lead to reset?

[visual topaz]

wdym

bp shop reset is simply monthly

[kindred quest]

Should I roll the stats with a guaranteed card for the memory?

[stuck stump]

With this, you can get 40 shards in one patch, but only once every 4-5 patches, right?

[visual topaz]

no

you get overflow imo

cuz that account only for 1 BP

[stuck stump]

Wait really?

[kindred quest]

Idk if it's worth pulling the cards out for that atk+ and crit+ for bianca

[stuck stump]

Wait nvm, yeah, but the overflow is small enough that it can only build up to like...once every two patches? How much overflow are we talking? 50%? 75%?

[visual topaz]

Example
BP lasts 5 weeks you get 25k
during 5 weeks of legend wz you get 5500 maximum trade voucher, -150/hero retain
during that same duration patch gives you let's 2500 (low estimate) trade vouchers with gamemodes

Monthly Shop reset at day 30

At day 36 you buy a new BP worth 25k however you got 25 days before new monthly reset whilst you alrdy bought the month 2 shards alrdy covered up by last BP, so you're actually having overflow Trade vouchers alrdy

[stray siren]

Another thing, always try to charge Bianca's Ultimate before switching to Rosetta, the first rotation was fine, but in the second Bianca came in from scratch

[kindred quest]

Is there even a rotation for bianca? xd, I've been playing blindly, I only use Rosetta and Alisa for qte

can you summarize the normal(?) rotation for bianca

[stuck stump]

Wait, is it 25k? or 15k?

[visual topaz]

close to 100%

[carmine mesa]

Speaking of vouchers, I don't have Garnet, going to unlock her via vouchers and BP shards.
After getting her and her leap, do I leave her at S or go for SS, or is getting Empy to SSS more important?

[visual topaz]

GRAY Ravens can't do math

i reported they had error in their wiki page on qu patch

never replied me

[wind basin]

Misinfo gr again

[stuck stump]

Wait wait wait. How much was it before? NO WAY THEY DOUBLED IT????

[visual topaz]

14K rn

[stuck stump]

They doubled T3?

[upper egret]

[visual topaz]

they raised all paid BP income

F2P no rights

[deft apex]

i reported an error on novice missions bc count and they still haven't corrected it

[visual topaz]

14k to 25k

[opaque ridge]

its a feature

[visual topaz]

if you're 5 weeks legend retainer you get overflowing trade vouchers starting within same patch as you buy first BP

[still moat]

oh yea i forgot to do it on 2nd rot but it ends up doing the same score anyway cause the previous score i did it ur way

[visual topaz]

all other cases you can always afford to buy these monthly shards

[opaque ridge]

legend retainer? whats that?

[stuck stump]

Okay, wow. I'm sorry for doubting you about the other thing. I was going by grayravens math, but clearly they were wrong. It seems you're right. It is possible to buy 40 shards per patch

Thank you for telling me. I did not know this at all

[visual topaz]

that's tricky for the 1st BP assumtions setup but every other upcoming BP are actually overflow incomes

[stuck stump]

What if I get only 20 shards the first BP in Polaris Bond? and let the overflow cover all my upcoming patches?

[visual topaz]

which means you can spend them on 20 other char shards same reset, spend on harmo mats, hypertunes, mem usb leap mats etc

[wind basin]

I was confused too cuz of gr incomes

[visual topaz]

i mean that's all the same

buying early or later

if you don't buy 2nd batch of shards by polaris bond

you could always buy it in next patch

assuming this isn't month 3 alrdy

[stuck stump]

and what if I only buy 20 shards in the first month of polaris bond? Will I always have overflow for mats?

[visual topaz]

yeah

cuz you'll be spending maximum of 16k Trade voucher

[stuck stump]

But I will be behind everyone by 20 shards forever

[opaque ridge]

the grind never ends

[visual topaz]

have 9k leftover + add wz/event gamemodes

then new patch gives you another 25k

[still moat]

is 500rc recharge a good stopping point after the recharge update ?

[visual topaz]

30000 good enough

[still moat]

[visual topaz]

jk

[opaque ridge]

u can burn s+ shards for new s rank shards

[visual topaz]

spend wisely and within your means

[visual topaz]

that's what i do with monthly shards

[still moat]

i think i remember 500rc gives weap selector

[opaque ridge]

whel

[still moat]

idk what 1000rc gives

[opaque ridge]

even i dont do that

[static night]

Get to 20k for selector

[woven sable]

smh whels

[still moat]

what selector

[static night]

S rank selector

One at 10k rc and one at 20k

[opaque ridge]

i saved up and bought 6 or 7 wanshis

[still moat]

cant u get an S rank with 20K RC

[deft apex]

whel

[stuck stump]

RC recharge in Qu update is retroactive, right? So existing RCs count?

[opaque ridge]

less revenue for banner

[static night]

Yes but its free

[still moat]

at that point it doesnt even matter

if i can afford 20K rc 1 free S rank is barely anything

[opaque ridge]

wtf whel mindset

[static night]

2 s ranks actually

[visual topaz]

yeah

total top up

to be precise

[stuck stump]

Pay $550k and get a free Lamborghini lmao

[upper egret]

u cant use the recharge vouchers on the same char twice tho right

[opaque ridge]

1 free s rank is like days of food

[visual topaz]

Altera gonna feed those hungry kids in 3rd world countries

[static night]

U can just keep the rc and still get the free s rank

[stuck stump]

Is it true there will be individual RC recharge rewards per S patch at some point? And if so, when? And what's the good stopping point?

[static night]

[still moat]

my 1 day of food worth half a monthly card

[opaque ridge]

4th world*

[visual topaz]

just spending event

6 Rainbow Card : x250 Event Construct R&D Ticket, 6★ Memory Resonance x1

30 Rainbow Card : x250 Event Construct R&D Ticket, 960x Hypertune Crystal α, 160x Hypertune Crystal β

128 Rainbow Card : x500 Event Construct R&D Ticket, x100 Phantom Pain Scar

328 Rainbow Card : x1000 Event Construct R&D Ticket, x150 Phantom Pain Scar, x25 Resonance Accelerator

648 Rainbow Card : x1500 Event Construct R&D Ticket, x250 Phantom Pain Scar

1000 Rainbow Card : x2500 Event Construct R&D Ticket, 6★ Weapon Choice Pack (Stops at【Pengyou Diemeng】Solacetune Signature Weapon)

Luna Oblivion patch weap selector stops at Qu weapon

Lucia Patch at Hanying

rewards are the same

1k RC for some glorified HT, 1 harmo and 500 skulls

[still moat]

damn

[static night]

When is this? Luna?

[still moat]

maybe i should save and recharge during luna patch

[static night]

Doesnt matter when u recharge

[still moat]

waiy

really

[stuck stump]

Fun fact 🤓
1st and 3rd world isn't a kind of rating that denotes how advanced a country is. It was actually a thing in the Cold War, where 1st world was the West (Allies of US), 2nd world was the East (Allies of USSR), and 3rd world was the less developed countries that chose to stay neutral to avoid involving themselves in the cold war

[upper egret]

☝️ 🤓

[woven sable]

smh nerd

[static night]

Ye u can recharge whenever u want just dont spend a lot until luna

[stuck stump]

Shut up it's a cool fact!

[visual topaz]

k enough chatting

back to finish work

links

[static night]

Dont leave us

[still moat]

oh

its a spending event

[static night]

Ye

[woven sable]

maybe cool for nerds

[upper egret]

[still moat]

is monthly + both bps adds up to 128rc ?

[static night]

Ye

30 monthly and 98 both bps

[still moat]

[upper egret]

unless you add serum monthly and wep monthly

[still moat]

whale territory

i avoid

[woven sable]

whel rc counting

[visual topaz]

@deft apex

wait

i inverted counts

[static night]

Not for long

Once u whale u never fail

[deft apex]

dalao

[woven sable]

go die then smh

[still moat]

im barely a light spender

[deft apex]

no I love him lunangy

[static night]

Thats how it starts

[woven sable]

spending = whel

[upper egret]

[river nymph]

is aether here

[visual topaz]

SEA is doomed once zeratu kiwits

[grand haven]

I believe in iza supremacy

[visual topaz]

Iza and Zorat our saviours

[visual topaz]

isn't he sleeping

[remote pier]

Time to summon him

[river nymph]

what about me

[remote pier]

Glad solo CW OP

Fury best PGR content creator

[visual topaz]

ayo she is telling me to stop doing BC planner

[remote pier]

she kind of blend in w/ the background

[river nymph]

she wants you to play with her

[sand laurel]

any character that straight up tells you to swipe?

[river nymph]

i was gonna ask aether if BRS shards are timegated in her event

[upper egret]

[river nymph]

anyone know?

[visual topaz]

[remote pier]

Just pull for her, your hands are itching anyways

[visual topaz]

How much is Once in a blue moon giving

@deft apex

[river nymph]

yeah but idk if i will need to wait to s+

[remote pier]

[visual topaz]

AHHHHHH

Norman day 3 overlaps with Lamia and BRS patch

[deft apex]

100

[visual topaz]

worst case scenario happened

i need to cry

[deft apex]

or is it 60, can't remember

what happened, don't cry 💔

[visual topaz]

Lamia ends on 27th 2 AM

at 7 AM norman switches to day 3

but it's gonna be BRS patch

whose patch am i supposed to count those 400 Norman BC

[remote pier]

[visual topaz]

don't tell me i need to split the BC rewards depending on dates like in financial statements

[remote pier]

y not

[visual topaz]

EX5 + EX6 rewards for BRS patch and all others for Lamia patch

[glass bay]

when and where

[upper egret]

just put it on lamia's tab and dw about it

not that big of a diff either way

[visual topaz]

i really need to rework BC plan format

cuz BC alone tells nothing

with CR rewards

Alisa patch gave 5k Yellow tickets

on top of 9300 BC

[upper egret]

[deft apex]

You can do it like I have it on one time rewards

[deft apex]

Just put it on brs lmao

[glass bay]

how much is BRS patch?

[upper egret]

[visual topaz]

i'm prolly gonna rework the weekly/dailies

[glass bay]

u guys organise these things better than i organise financial stuff

[visual topaz]

and use the same formula as valk plan

[static night]

Are u the intel shares guy?

[visual topaz]

the bc planner template has an optimized formula

intc

[upper egret]

[glass bay]

intel guy is a genius

[still moat]

really ? thats a lot

[glass bay]

i saw they spread fake news of takeover the other day

[visual topaz]

new tab

i'm rly late

hope F2P don't wanna kill me

[upper egret]

f2p won't have the damage for it

[still moat]

am i crazy to say that each patches can easily give over 12K total ticket

[glass bay]

[deft apex]

Ive been using a slightly tweaked formula for a while

[visual topaz]

counting days and weeks separately gives an accurate number of BC per patch

rather than rounding to weeks only

and calc a pro rata

[deft apex]

Yea, that what im doing currently

Cuz patches start mid week

Ffs

[visual topaz]

Patches start mid week i'm like f

i used to do 1210/7 * number of days before and after new patch

[deft apex]

Check the formula on the main planner, pretty sure it is what you're looking for already

[visual topaz]

but it gives awful number

yeah ik

last time a newbie asked how were those amount calced (for the planner with CN dates)

i kinda reversed the formula

trying to explain it

number of full weeks is multiplied by 1k then number of days multiplied by daily 30 BC

[dusty zodiac]

Can you use this stuff for this cool looking lady?

[static night]

Nope

[delicate isle]

does cappucino or scire have higher harmo prio

[shadow holly]

Capri I would say

[delicate isle]

[visual topaz]

@deft apex =FLOOR(Cell with days/7)x1000+30x(Cell with days)

[deft apex]

Watapak is floor

[visual topaz]

rounds to inferior number

37 days / 7 returns 5 with Floor function

that number gets multiplied by 1k which is the weekly BC from ppc and wz missions

[deft apex]

What I put there also rounds to inferior number, no clue what it's called in english

[visual topaz]

it translated in my own language

on google sheets

i translated it on google

which gave me Floor function lol

[deft apex]

Lol

[visual topaz]

same braincell

issue is that we gotta take into account missing week BC i guess?

[deft apex]

To me it would translate to round by defect

[visual topaz]

wait no

[deft apex]

Or i guess round down?

[visual topaz]

since lamia patch is 2 days

BRS is gonna be the one with full weekly BC mission

it's alrdy midnight

[deft apex]

Wtf same timezone?

[visual topaz]

nah

0:55 for me

that's even worse

overtime moment be like

tryna fix bc planner

then realize everything was wrong

[deft apex]

Copy paste weekly values from main no questions asked, who's gonna know

[visual topaz]

from what

you mean F2P plan tab?

[deft apex]

Yea

[visual topaz]

that's exact same result i got

isokay

nobody knows where i buried the corpse of the old method

[deft apex]

Maybe you're not missing bc

[visual topaz]

huh

new big issue

what about derived from matrix

[deft apex]

Oh no 💀

[visual topaz]

it's permanent

and bunch of endings are gonna slowly be added per patches

like cursed waves

with new rewards

[deft apex]

Oh wait

No thats one time rewards

Issokay

[visual topaz]

yeah that i know

but they appear patch by patch

[deft apex]

Oh yea you're right 😭

[visual topaz]

wait

when did celica class got new bosses

TF

[deft apex]

LMAO

[river nymph]

[deft apex]

It was a few patches back I think

[visual topaz]

they get shadow added ervytime

[deft apex]

Whag bosses do you have to do

[deft apex]

I check it every patch

[visual topaz]

i think of it but forget to to put memento/notes

[deft apex]

I just dont take note 💀

I think it was on Echo patch

[visual topaz]

Fu Shen
Lilith
Primal Projection
Madorea
Lithos
Huaxu
Moon Eater
Trailblazer
Unknown Data Cluster
Hetero Twins

there seemed to be 3 batches

i missed

[deft apex]

Oh no thats addition 3 or 2 times

[visual topaz]

p sure huaxu was alone

then 2 splits of bosses

[deft apex]

P sure huaxu is quite old

[visual topaz]

i don't recall fighting her

[deft apex]

Even in celica

[visual topaz]

cuz ik at some point i did all the old bosses

[deft apex]

Also twins?

[visual topaz]

idk

das why i'm asking

[deft apex]

Huaxu might've been added with twins

[visual topaz]

bro i didn't even wrote the name

can't keep track

[deft apex]

No biggie, its old nobody cares

[visual topaz]

guess it's time to do extrapolation

[deft apex]

[visual topaz]

through kaleido patch date

and see what was released

and not released yet

as of story/babel bosses/overspeed

wait

kaleido patch 9 months ago

range too long

[deft apex]

I think fushen lilith primal and madorea were 1 batch
Lithos huaxu moon eater trailblazer udc another batch
Twins is just really old p sure

Fushen batch iirc was either Echo or just this patch
Lithos' was during cw i think
I cant tell you how old Twins are though

[visual topaz]

ow

i got some clues

my personal sheets had some names

Twins same time as Voodoo and Lamia

watafak

[deft apex]

Yea twins is just really old

U just forgor to beat it on balter 💀

[visual topaz]

yeah

i forgor

[dawn folio]

what team do you guys use to deal with this thing?

[visual topaz]

yet still marked it

whatever is your strongest team

[rose yew]

either light or dark I guess

[dawn folio]

do enemies not have any innate resistances or something?

[visual topaz]

nothing

[rose yew]

I should do it today before I forgor about it ltr

[visual topaz]

they're just HP sponges

[visual topaz]

ic ic i assume so too

will do that

[deft apex]

OH

WAIT

[glass bay]

ewlao

[deft apex]

I usually send one time rewards screenshot every patch here

So if u see a big jump in celica bc its when they got added

[visual topaz]

time to look for fabiojo images

[deft apex]

[visual topaz]

12/9/24

[shadow holly]

if it doesn't specify an elemental weakness, then the enemies will have the same resistance to all elements
so yes, as others said, you just use your best team

[visual topaz]

18/8/24

[rose yew]

is stronghold still getting updated

[visual topaz]

19/7/24

10/7/24

[deft apex]

Here

[visual topaz]

that was latest batch?

[deft apex]

It should be on lamia

[visual topaz]

6/5/24

you wrote pre patch update

[glass bay]

WOOOOOO SHAAAAAA

[visual topaz]

8/4/24

[deft apex]

Ik in one of these I remembered leaps got bc too

[visual topaz]

yeah

[deft apex]

So there's a jump there too

[upper egret]

[visual topaz]

leap and execution give 10 bc

[deft apex]

Oh Execution too?

[visual topaz]

yeah

should be

[deft apex]

live fix

[visual topaz]

NAH

DONT DO THAt

[deft apex]

Ok I wont

[visual topaz]

i need to know which bosses batches i'm missing

[deft apex]

Ok so

Lastest should be on lamia

[visual topaz]

late 5

[deft apex]

Yea

[visual topaz]

so fu shen lilith mado

[remote pier]

Excel gaming in gph

[visual topaz]

projection

[deft apex]

Trail too iirc

[visual topaz]

oki

and batch before?

huaxu, lithos Moon eater UDC?

[deft apex]

Feels right

[visual topaz]

then i got twins from balter patch

omg issue solved

we got DFM to fix tho

since i never cared about cursed waves

never questionned myself about those rewards loss

[deft apex]

do that again

[rose yew]

15 pulls worth of emergency funds

[glass bay]

all going to fate banner anyway

[floral plover]

Mmmm 15 pulls

[deft apex]

Btw no fix needed, uniframes only have 1 stage in celica

[visual topaz]

okay they added some stages

but no BC

we're safe

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

So Lamia patch had last batch of bosses

and Echo patch previous batch?

[dawn folio]

all things equal, which of the current elemental teams deals most dmg? CW? Lamia? Balter?

[visual topaz]

Lamia

[deft apex]

Watapak why selena missing

Selena is only 1

[visual topaz]

kuro moment

[deft apex]

Small indie company, please understand.

[visual topaz]

need confirmation

[rose yew]

selena has no unique mechanism all she does is ping 3x2 and then ult

[deft apex]

Not the one you wanted, blue moon is actually 40 not 100 sowwy

Ill check for when the big jump happened

[rose yew]

the side story?

[deft apex]

Event story yea

[visual topaz]

np

[glass bay]

time elite 10

[velvet hedge]

Elite 0:10

40380

[glass bay]

Do lamias orbs register properly on hamlet?

[rose yew]

orbs in second ult phase no

[glass bay]

Bricked

Sht unit

[rose yew]

just solo dps cappuccino

[glass bay]

Who the fk is cappuccino

[shadow holly]

latte americano

[rose yew]

capriccio?

[inland tree]

i forgor but i think he means capybara

[rose yew]

depresso

glb already forgor abt her

[glass bay]

Capybara?

[upper egret]

grimace shake

[still moat]

is balter leap rotation hold dodge > 3x 3ping > ult1 > spam BA > ult2 ?

[deft apex]

Ok so, batches should've been on kaleido and noctis

No lamia batch

[visual topaz]