📨・meta-help

[finite cove]

Oh that's a news fr 🗿

[woven haven]

i dunno how the solo performance has changed since v1

but a beta tester said v1 SS0 nanami should solo unless cw is sss

[finite cove]

I think we are nearing the era of 3rd gen lineup. The swap cd lineup with buffffed up base value

[shadow holly]

deserved for CW solo
now nana solo op

[finite cove]

just look at Lucia pyrooath and nanami knight

[woven haven]

again take it with a huge grain of salt

is not guaranteed to be the case in live server esp after changes

[finite cove]

Ofc it's only a speculation

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-pgr-nanami-nanami-pgr-punigray-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16944114784484988012

[upper egret]

that's kind of hilarious ngl

[finite cove]

Now I'm worried if I should even invest deep on gen 2 lineup. It seems they gonna face the brick treatment after gen 1

🔥♿

[shadow holly]

what

[sly geyser]

and by the time u save for gen 3 kuro launches gen 4

[finite cove]

My guts feeling.

[shadow holly]

do you understand that any unit will have irrelevancy eventually

just don't pull anyone and build anyone then

[finite cove]

It is the same issue on any gacha games I played 😭

[shadow holly]

stick with Lucia lotus

[sly geyser]

Nanami Storm

[finite cove]

Power creep is unfortunately unavoidable,so enjoyment is the key

[shadow holly]

if you don't like it just stop playing gacha games

[rose yew]

nekopara comeback?

[finite cove]

Hmm can't do that,I like gacha games waifu quality. So that's that. Ain't playing woke shiet from western gaming companies

[sly geyser]

Concord

[shadow holly]

are you scared of gay people?

[spiral merlin]

What are your thoughts on wata

[sly geyser]

ez skip

[spiral merlin]

[rose yew]

well he's not limited time so...

[sly geyser]

investing all my bc to BRS

[rose yew]

I'm picking brs over him

[finite cove]

Apparently concord flop disaster cost 400m USD,better gave it to kurogames 💯

[sly geyser]

[rose yew]

[finite cove]

F Sony with it bad decision making

[sly geyser]

Stellar Blade saved the day eventually

[zenith thorn]

yes

[finite cove]

Cultured games is the way 💯🗿

[sly geyser]

those who was like "this is dehumanizing" where are they now lmao

[upper egret]

imagine instead of 8 years and 300 mil$ for that disaster we could've had bloodborne remaster/remake

[shadow holly]

I pity you

[finite cove]

Imagine Kurogames had 400m USD to invest in their games...pgr and wuwa could be so much better 💯

[zenith thorn]

isn't wuwa cost like 1b or sum sh*t

[spiral merlin]

1 kurillion

[zenith thorn]

they had tencent as their main investor or smth

[sly geyser]

wait wuwa 1B ? where did kuro get the money ?

[finite cove]

Hmm idrk,but I think it is legit. Since genshin initial value also close too it

[jaunty beacon]

They're scared of me

[finite cove]

way back then when thing is still cheap

[zenith thorn]

idk,im making that number out

[finite cove]

Open world live services game is pretty expensive to develop and maintained 💯

[zenith thorn]

eh it's ue4 really

can't expect ue4 to run smoothly on a budget

[spiral merlin]

Discord light mode

[upper egret]

and especially not on mobile

[zenith thorn]

yep

[upper egret]

like that engine is a disaster even on pcs gl making it smooth on mobile lul

[sly geyser]

12pm here

[finite cove]

Yeah the real issue is ue4 if WuWa use same engine like genshin. The unity engine I think WuWa will run as well if not better. But ofc the graphic performance lower than ue4 games

[zenith thorn]

anyone complaining about wuwa optimization just doesn't know sh*t abt game development

i mean ofc kuro can and will optimise it better

but that'll take time

[sly geyser]

I knew I did the right thing dropping LMAO my Xiaomi 12 is not that old

[finite cove]

Unreal engines isn't good for mobile environment,since majority of mobile user is mid end phone gaming

[zenith thorn]

2021 is considered ancient

[finite cove]

Only minority had iphone 20

[zenith thorn]

snapdragon 8 bro

[sly geyser]

2022*

8 gen 1

[finite cove]

Tbf WuWa is doing good on PC tho

That's that

[zenith thorn]

if u count dec 31 2021 as 2022 sure

[sly geyser]

oh how about the optimization on mac

[zenith thorn]

mac is just sh*t why bother

[sly geyser]

I heard the game is available on that platform

What about the PS5 port ?

[finite cove]

What about my PC

[sly geyser]

is it confirmed?

[finite cove]

[sly geyser]

1200fps

[finite cove]

Window 1

[sly geyser]

wdym it's W PC

[upper egret]

[jaunty beacon]

It's available on McDonald's terminal

[sly geyser]

on toasters too ?

[finite cove]

Okay,bye2 guys see y'all tomorrow

[sly geyser]

damn kuro did great on this one

[glass bay]

Why u talking about eos game

[finite cove]

Weak,genshin could run on my rice cooker best game ever

[sly geyser]

to prevent the game from eos kuro launched it on multiple unimaginable platforms

[woven haven]

well deserved for all the cw solo coping

this is what they get 😭

and now if they skipped feral there's even less reason to swap to cw with lack of amp buff

so its doubly ironic

[upper egret]

and iirc lots wanted to skip feral for w.e reason too

[rugged cloud]

Good thing I returned in Feral patch

[upper egret]

oh yeah because they thought she was too weak for cw

[woven haven]

brainrot

[rugged cloud]

And gph said to not skip at all

XD

[sly geyser]

no bc they thought lux would do the same

that's the silver 🧱

[upper egret]

[finite cove]

[sly geyser]

many globlul players won't survive affixes

I can't wait for that day lmao

[woven haven]

affix meta requires high rank scire they're already cooked

it also requires high hanying invest

and there's people going "NAH I'LL SOLO BALTER EVEN WITH HANYING"

[upper egret]

ohno

[sly geyser]

[woven haven]

i can't stress this enough

affix attackers suck on their own

[sly geyser]

poor people

[woven haven]

they can output like 30% of their base strength as solo units

some of them even lower than that

[sly geyser]

just tried to enable ionization with pyroath alone

took 30s

[woven haven]

they're inherently kneecapped if you don't swap to the enabler unit

and like 30% of base strength i don't even mean with team buffs

just their own inherent kit makes them unable to deal much dmg

the base modifiers are pathetically low solo when they rely on affix stack counts

[still moat]

is there a future unit that doesnt get handicapped by not having sign ?

[woven haven]

no...?

[sly geyser]

no since harmo will become mandatory

[still moat]

[woven haven]

the closest is wanshi and he still is kneecapped by his own modifiers and lack of harmo

[spiral merlin]

No dmg

[woven haven]

his bullet shooting does double dmg with sig

[spiral merlin]

But ‘playable’

[still moat]

do future patches gives more harmo accelerator or what

[woven haven]

and opens up harmo for 4pc zuwen

[woven haven]

you will catch up eventually

[still moat]

mmhm

[woven haven]

the pace of harmo accels is faster than released units its just players have meta backlog rn

[sly geyser]

it gives u the same amount 25 if lvl14 every two weeks

[spiral merlin]

Fresh cr rotation every 2 patches and harmo from spending milestones/events

[woven haven]

once you finish harmo'ing all old units you've caught up

wanshi cub is also disgustingly big for him

as diluted as the buffs are at high rank

[rose yew]

where did lulu res go

[sly geyser]

wait after the first clear it becomes 11 per rot

[sly geyser]

closed

[still moat]

whose future cubs would u put at t0

[rose yew]

i haven't claimed my mission reward and brought the items from shop yet

[rose yew]

[glass bay]

Bricked

[sly geyser]

🧱

[rose yew]

guess I'm ded
back to echopicking then

[glass bay]

U still playing that gaem miku?

[rose yew]

barely

[shadow holly]

probably Wata and Wanshi so far
maybe Hanying
Luna's is important by the mercy of being the only void cub to exist

[woven haven]

all except qu

[shadow holly]

[still moat]

[shadow holly]

fun stuff eh

but if you get bp you guarantee all cubs anyway so it's w/e

[still moat]

dont bp only give 2.5K

[livid lark]

@mighty tusk

[dapper skiff]

The more u listen to aether, the bigger the number gets

[rugged cloud]

Eklao

[dapper skiff]

It's never ending

[shadow holly]

yes and that's enough for full cub pity each 2 patches
and considering cub rates you'll be getting earlies A LOT

[mighty tusk]

[livid lark]

huehuehuehuehue

[still moat]

damn thats my guild leader

[spiral merlin]

Yeah
A lot
Surely

[raw swift]

bp gives 2.5k what?

[jaunty beacon]

My alisa's cub is only S

[jaunty beacon]

Cub tickets

[shadow holly]

if ur unlucky and there are b2b s rank patches just swipe more

[still moat]

i cant afford to buy both BPs each patch

[dapper skiff]

U guys pulling Alisa cub?

[still moat]

i'd probably stick to the cub bps and monthly

[dapper skiff]

I thought lingya is her cub

[shadow holly]

smh azriel whaleness exposed

[still moat]

surely cub bps have more or less similar efficiency to monthly card right

[dapper skiff]

Nyo way

[rugged cloud]

[still moat]

3.3K vs 2.5K + additional stuff

[cerulean grotto]

600rc pls

I'm very poor

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

Exposed

[cerulean grotto]

I need to pull brs

[pliant rose]

@still moat lol you have the same name as azriel the bible guy

[cerulean grotto]

[pliant rose]

I sometimes see that guy in server 1 chat

[shadow holly]

close
MPA is 100 bc/RC ratio
cub bp is like 80 ratio just counting tickets but it also gives vouchers, shard selectors, and other stuff
so I'd say it's equal if not a bit better

[still moat]

yea thats what i meant

[shadow holly]

although the value diminishes a bit because it's cub tickets not BC

[jaunty beacon]

Pulling BRS for the sticker fomo 🧠

[still moat]

i mean im pulling for cub anyway

so its the same thing at the end of the day

[shadow holly]

ye ik it's not you I'm just poking fun

[still moat]

azriel is a very common nickname i wouldnt be surprised

[onyx palm]

does BRS get a CUB?

[zenith thorn]

no

[woven haven]

time to do quick calcs on cub skill 5 impact

[shadow holly]

I wonder for how long the Hanying cub bug will stay here

[pliant rose]

from now on you're Azriel the bible person hahaha

[woven haven]

wait no

miscalc'd something gimme a sec

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

forgot ss3 has +20% ult dmg bonus dilution

onore kuro

[ionic hatch]

Amplifier class skill buff is always active right?

[tulip spade]

Hypothetical: if I Pull 30 in event banner

does it stay at 30 and carry over when new patch comes in ? or does it reset back to 0 ?

[woven haven]

only for 10s after any swap

if you stay on the character any longer the buff expires

[woven haven]

only to the banner of the same name

event moves to event
fate event -> fate event

[shadow holly]

yeah and ther is NO debut banner now

[woven haven]

arrival -> arrival only
fate arrival -> fate arrival

[shadow holly]

DO NOT pull

[ionic hatch]

Ah yeah, it's written in game I forgot lol

[shadow holly]

the only "event" banners up RN are the arrival ones

[woven haven]

tbf the official tl is not helping

[onyx palm]

huh I didn't know the patch characters banner leaves early

[woven haven]

each debut banner is 4 weeks

patch lasts 5 weeks on glb on avg, 6 on CN

[somber axle]

Why does everyone put their 2pc memories in slots 4 6 instead of 5 6

[onyx palm]

for symmetry

[spiral merlin]

Speaking of which nanami got a long ass patch

[ionic hatch]

Coz of gray ravens website

[onyx palm]

🗣️ 🔥

it probably actually is for symmetry

[somber axle]

Does it affect stats

[shadow holly]

it looks prettier

[ionic hatch]

Yeah symmetry too haha, looks nice

[onyx palm]

no

you can do 5 and 6 if you want

[somber axle]

Oh ok good I thought I did something wrong 😭

[shadow holly]

as long as it's the same row the placement doesn't matter

[onyx palm]

so why do the 2 pieces tend to go in 4 and 6 and not 1 and 3?

but sometimes they go in 1 and 3? 🗿

[shadow holly]

it depends on memory base stats

but it's very minor differences

[onyx palm]

ok so some memories have higher base attack if they're bottom ro?

[shadow holly]

less than 1% ATK improvement

[shadow holly]

yep exactly

[onyx palm]

so you put the higher base attack 2pc memory in 4 and 6

[shadow holly]

like Cottie has high ATK stat
so it's usually put on the bottom row

[onyx palm]

and the lower in top row because you care less about crit and hp

[spiral merlin]

Minor until you get hit with 1hp boss in ppc

[shadow holly]

float higher

[spiral merlin]

True and real

[zenith thorn]

symmetry and minmaxing stats

oh nvm

[jaunty beacon]

Memory optimization is relevant for less than 1% of the whole population

[zenith thorn]

just symmetry

[onyx palm]

the world population

[glass bay]

Pgr population is 20 ppl

[onyx palm]

wow the entire PGR population is here

[opaque ridge]

1% of 5 people

[glass bay]

[opaque ridge]

[jaunty beacon]

That's called EU onslaught sire

[onyx palm]

I forgot to claim ore from norman like multiple days in a row

[opaque ridge]

EU wont survive till onslaught

EoS and merge with NA and SEA

[shadow holly]

excuse me, EU will be 2-3

[onyx palm]

I'll never be able to afford another cub

[spiral merlin]

Merge is most beneficial for eu tho

[jaunty beacon]

Eu has money. Which sea don't

[onyx palm]

is EU in that bad of a place population wise?

[shadow holly]

it gets sent to u thru mail

[onyx palm]

oh

[spiral merlin]

eu merge with sea and we chilling

[shadow holly]

I never claim my ores

[jaunty beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020246848751026186/1108073423818727524/1106329281652605069.gif

[onyx palm]

I got norman mail but it didn't have any ore

[shadow holly]

yeah u get it when it ends

[onyx palm]

about norman ending

oh when this ends

weird that it says ends in 3 days but I can't do anything in it

[jaunty beacon]

Really low population, so the leaderboard is full of whales and low spender tryharders

[spiral merlin]

Battle phase is over for 4 days until reset

Unless you don’t start Norman until later ig

[onyx palm]

probably why co-op matchmaking is so ass

sit there for forever looking for a match

you finally find one and it's someone set to easy difficulty

[opaque ridge]

[jaunty beacon]

There's no reason to do coop too

[opaque ridge]

pgr co-op game?

[upper egret]

EU player here, I Represent roughly 15% of our servers population

[onyx palm]

I want my 5 star weapons

[spiral merlin]

5 star weapons in 2024

[onyx palm]

not everyone is a whale

[still moat]

what counts as final atk ? is it the final attack of basic atk or just atk stats ?

[jaunty beacon]

People are either too casual to care. Or spender

[glass bay]

EU is absolutely bricked

[dense temple]

can i use hanying in physical team

[upper egret]

[spiral merlin]

Those calculations are done using the number 500, so incan gives 75atk and afterglow 150atk

[visual topaz]

Final atk

[onyx palm]

well I want my 5 star weapons

[spiral merlin]

False advertising

[still moat]

why 500

[jaunty beacon]

You "can" but she doesn't really bring anything to the team. Both alisa and rosetta being free doesn't help. It's better to put blast or any qte slave if you don't own any s rank atker as a 3rd slot

[upper egret]

fwiw co op is do able solo as well

[spiral merlin]

Ask kuro

[still moat]

[spiral merlin]

They use 500 for all weapons

It’s just a flat atk boost

[still moat]

i guess afterglow is just better most of the time

[raw swift]

i guess it'd depend on the character and mode

[onyx palm]

true but you definitely have a higher chance at 4 and 5 star weapons at higher difficulties

so it might take too long solo at high difficulties

[upper egret]

depends on how built your account is but assuming not so much then yeah most likely

[still moat]

i might be in danger of getting sniped

[upper egret]

another option is asking around for people willing to run high diffs with you, most ppl doing co op matchmaking pick the lowest ones

[onyx palm]

yeah I've noticed

first mission and easy difficulty

blue drops aplenty

[upper egret]

ye most ppl opt to just one tap and get the shards instead of relying on the drop rates (granted, I'm not sure how much higher the drop rate is on higher difficulties either so maybe it's not that worth but I dunno)

[onyx palm]

not sure about the last mission but going from first to second is pretty big

I see blues often on first mission and rarely on second

[hidden forum]

I pick hardest difficulty just so I don’t see any 3* mem fodder drops

More worth it for my serum

[dapper skiff]

Phak

It's ice mob

[hidden forum]

Cope

After qu keep coping at her gameplay and orbs

[opaque ridge]

only players with 10k mmr can solo qu

[raw swift]

So general is on fire today

[opaque ridge]

[raw swift]

Damn, 144 harmony things

[vague nebula]

imma snipe u supa hard

[vague nebula]

duracell

[still moat]

which one are u

[vague nebula]

I am joking

[opaque ridge]

who needs alisa when you've got harmo eclipse

[crystal parrot]

How can I get HyperLee from pulling, does he have his own banner?

[vague nebula]

I hacven't entered wz yet

[still moat]

😮‍💨

[hidden forum]

Fat

[still moat]

idk how i can get higher score

[hidden forum]

Spend more

Easy

[still moat]

my fire team stuck because of the worm on wave 8

and my ice team sucks

[opaque ridge]

ur ice team?

[still moat]

my bad

[opaque ridge]

everyone's ice team sucks

[still moat]

ice team sucks*

but im a proud SSS plume haver

surely i suck less than everyone else

[opaque ridge]

u could have SSS plume and still suck

10 blue orb opener and u decide to keep going with the run

[still moat]

[hidden forum]

🔵🟡🔵🟡🔵🟡🔵

[upper egret]

[vague nebula]

my ploom was 12 ht way back. even before this 12 ht benefit

[tulip spade]

does NOCTIS Block negate every single attack in this game including bosses abilities ?

[hidden forum]

The block acts like a dodge

But u don’t move

As long as it’s not a cutscene attack it should work

But grabs prob won’t

[jaunty beacon]

Block is just an evade in disguise ♿

[hidden forum]

Frfr

Just like how inflation is also a tax in disguise

[woven haven]

Luna CUB Passive 5 boost (not counting other skills cuz dilution is hard):
All base dmg bonuses from Core Gauge (4% per 10 points) +25% (5% per 10 points)
At SS0, +13.6% total base increase to Large Core/Ult
At SS3, +13.6% total base increase to Large Core, 12.5% total base increase to Ult
At SSS, +17.6% total base increase to Large Core, 16.6% total base increase to Ult

[hidden forum]

[woven haven]

[mighty tusk]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ka4y1u7b9/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.10
how painful is it to see this?

[hidden forum]

My eyes are already dying from the thumbnail

[jaunty beacon]

My question is why tf hannah didn't proc

[woven haven]

as painful as this https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1d64y1c7ib/

and this one will be more common

[jaunty beacon]

Plume ppc starting clip smh

[mighty tusk]

does qu need 3+1+ 3 in that order?

[hidden forum]

4 cjy 2 Hanna

[woven haven]

yes

[mighty tusk]

[jaunty beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443015782046367755/961579811560628244/makesweet-1cfpqr.gif

[mighty tusk]

like feral but with extra steps

[woven haven]

the 1 can be substituted by a 2 or 3 but that's just asking to kill your run

[opaque ridge]

3 + 1 + hold basic attack

immortality glitch

[mighty tusk]

looks like orb weaving is mandatory for her

[woven haven]

it is

alisa crit dmg buff is 20% right

[shadow holly]

yeah

[woven haven]

lmao

that means hanying's CUB with 75% crit dmg buff is almost undiluted

[shadow holly]

yeah its huge

[woven haven]

she has no innate crit dmg buff

[shadow holly]

its like 34% buff on core

unless i did it wrong

[steady otter]

6969696969

[night bay]

pgr dmg calculator when

[steady otter]

Update bot when

[night bay]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-bye-disappear-anime-gif-23578238

[spiral merlin]

Never we have new bot soon

[woven haven]

hello gib new onslaught modifier numbers

[steady otter]

Oh new helper ? Hi

[night bay]

remind me again when nanami is out, makes things easier

[woven haven]

wait new bot coming?

[spiral merlin]

Yeah Ek is making it

[steady otter]

Naisu

[woven haven]

aight i'll give u a ping then
interested in how they'll nerf the lightning mod to compensate for nanami

[spiral merlin]

It got admin approval already I think

[woven haven]

juicy

[jaunty beacon]

Just use in game recommendations

Like me

[night bay]

i'm expecting some drastic changes in those modifiers

[shadow holly]

yeah

[night bay]

but then again, it's kuro

[woven haven]

iirc they added... 3 new stages to onslaught

on nanami patch beta itself

2 for lightning + 1 for something that sounds like fire but could be a burn stage

[night bay]

i was one of the first people to get helper role mind you

[woven haven]

so lightning, lightning for lamia stage, and... fire/burn?

[steady otter]

Lord helper hi

[night bay]

[night bay]

definitely one for burn

[spiral merlin]

No shot there’s a burn stage already

[night bay]

LMAO

[spiral merlin]

3 minute burn run 🗣️ 🔥

[woven haven]

i'm digging my old wanshi calcs and then i realised they all used GR typo numbers and i'm back to square one

[steady otter]

@shadow holly i got 24s hell md
3 days malding time

[woven haven]

💀

need to recalc everything rn

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

wtf

what invest is that

[night bay]

numbers keep changing in pgr character kits, hard to keep up

[steady otter]

2.01.03 212 101
This invest is not over kill

Lacking dmg so bad

[dapper skiff]

Man

Time to pop

[woven haven]

ok but have u seen a unit stack +650% base dmg bonus

in total across the kit

[night bay]

that's wanshi in a nutshell yeah

free unit btw

[shadow holly]

yeah damn im getting gapped because i dont have capri harmo

[steady otter]

I know 100 can do that
But idk, that was too hard

[woven haven]

now i'm trying to extract what % of that is CUB for each wanshi rank and i regret it

to see the CUB's overall increase in dmg

[mighty tusk]

@livid lark Turns out I could've improved my chaos machi ice

[night bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1132870393061969950.png?size=96&quality=lossless

[shadow holly]

can it
it doesnt feel like it
whats even the diff between 24s run from 25

[woven haven]

f* eck this i need to refer to ko's infographic for wanshi again

[shadow holly]

i didnt even have enough dmg for 25
i had to delay my core on lamia so that i dv on core in human form because i was lacking damage

but my cub is S so thats that 💀

[steady otter]

Oh sht

[woven haven]

wait this doesn't help with the number calcs nooooooooo

[shadow holly]

would've had enough if i had ss woulda gotten 25

[pliant rose]

What do you guys buy here

[pine slate]

100% hp?

[glass bay]

24 md with dark?

[pine slate]

Ya

[restive grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1193541472058888282.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=lamiawiggle

[pine slate]

Dalaobell cook

[shadow holly]

r1 daren too that sht crazy

dmg hax

[pine slate]

Ikr

[steady otter]

99 ofc
Siren trash

[pine slate]

R2 Daren should be able to do

[pine slate]

U recorded?

[glass bay]

Wtf

[last oasis]

Are A Rank cubs useless?

[shadow holly]

never

[still moat]

anyone know the rotation to handle the worm on wave 8 efficiently ?

[shadow holly]

if you dont use a cub on a char you lose at least 10% elemental damage bonus by default
and if u dont have the chars signature cub ofc youll have to use an A rank one

[last oasis]

Which one should I get?

[shadow holly]

lingya is pretty much the most important support cub in the game

[last oasis]

The default one or anyone else?

[shadow holly]

others are mostly just damage for their elements

[pliant rose]

Hero ice team

[pine slate]

It's the only support cub in the game

[dapper skiff]

[last oasis]

Who

Pic?

[woven haven]

there u guys go

the most broken cub in the game ig

in terms of % difference

[night bay]

dalao

[dapper skiff]

dalao

[last oasis]

Dalao?

[shadow holly]

[pine slate]

[shadow holly]

deer

[still moat]

is it because the extra dmg bonus after switch in

[last oasis]

Whose dalao?

[last oasis]

S rank?

[pine slate]

A rank

U asked for A rank no?

[last oasis]

Yea

[scarlet fern]

Is there still a way to get the "lost in white" background in the lobby?

[last oasis]

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-anime-girl-my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-gif-12769454977637694232

[woven haven]

taking one look at what nanami cub buffs
+60% base dmg to a move that has alternating scalings based on gauge consumption

how am i supposed to calc this

[pine slate]

Mafs

[shadow holly]

shouldnt it be just like cw cub where its BASE base dmg

[dapper skiff]

Mafs

[shadow holly]

just additive to base dmg buff from stacks

considering high %

[mighty tusk]

min, ave, max
(as if I know anything about math)

[woven haven]

cuz the thing nanami CUB buffs is a second dmg proc of the same move

not the first proc

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

so i need to sort through what buffs first or second or both rn

[dapper skiff]

Who let them cook

[woven haven]

with nanami's introduction and CW leap they also made variant moves a thing

and stuff sometimes only buffs a variant

[still moat]

anyone know the rotation to handle the worm on wave 8 fire wz efficiently ?

[dapper skiff]

yuanye empyrea

[still moat]

actually ?

[barren plank]

Anyone here good w coding I need some help

[shadow holly]

tbf would depend on ur invest and bracket youre in so you should say that and maybe someone whos in a similar situation will help u

[still moat]

nvm im using yuan ye on hyperreal

SS0 everything + sign

R2 empy R0 everyone else

hero bracket

[rugged cloud]

what?
not guaranteed good

[distant wren]

try to time ur higher dps when it comes out
and hope for the best

[pine slate]

oh thats similar to my investment

[velvet agate]

Late reply but it's 45k

[woven haven]

there u go

idc if there's wrong numbers anymore

i can't do all this math shiet

[rugged cloud]

cub skills also becoming essays

💀

PGR reading game

[woven haven]

wanshi cub coming in with +150% base dmg bonus to ult1 and +250% base dmg bonus to ult2
but its diluted heavily by the existing base dmg bonuses in kit (like +400% base dmg bonus to ult2 from core)

[still moat]

i tried using lee on it but its not enough

[rugged cloud]

Are the balance guys just popping numbers for fun?
I can imagine the painful calculations

[woven haven]

wanshi has kneecapped base numbers

and they put all of those in cub/wep/ranks/core passive

free unit syndrome

[shadow holly]

yea his kit is all about stacking systems and base dmg increases
on top of also having big increases from ranks other stuff

how much base multiplier do his ults have again

[still moat]

ult5 ?

[woven haven]

2400% ult 1 and 1850% ult 2
post base modifier buffs its 9000% and 20,812%

[shadow holly]

[still moat]

why does she have so many ults

[rugged cloud]

[woven haven]

she has 5 ult paragraphs so i just categorize them as such

[still moat]

which ult is the one where she jump and slashed sideways

[shadow holly]

u mean like the one where she flies around?

because the big dimension slash is part of her basic attack

its pretty much just an energy gain tool

once per swap in

[distant wren]

the jump and the big instant slash are considered ults too right?

[woven haven]

ult3

[still moat]

nah it actually has an animation

[woven haven]

jump button is an ult to me ya

[glass bay]

when qu out we have to change cow set?

[woven haven]

cuz its in the ult paragraph

[spiral merlin]

Let’s not forget the strongest ult, jump

[distant wren]

but no time stop right?

[spiral merlin]

Ofc not 💀

[still moat]

what about ult4 ?

[spiral merlin]

You can spam jump

[woven haven]

lucia's 5 ults are

1. jump
2. enter ult mode 1
3. do dmg, refresh ult mode 1 duration (timestop)
4. change from ult mode 1 to ult mode 2
5. do dmg, exit ult mode 2 and return to base mode (timestop)

[ashen edge]

i love fishge

[raw swift]

the most advanced frame of babylonia is now able to jump

[rugged cloud]

[distant wren]

wait is there like a normal jump and another jump with cinematic?

[spiral merlin]

ult4 doesn’t have timestop which is slightly annoying but she’d probably be a little too strong with it

[rugged cloud]

Poor guide makers

[spiral merlin]

Jump is a simple jump and the guy was talking about the ult where she flies away and back to the camera

[rugged cloud]

gph filled with people trying to understand when lucia comes out

[spiral merlin]

It’s so hard to describe Lucia moves 💀

[woven haven]

its worse cuz she is actually pretty simple rotation wise

[velvet agate]

Okay when will pgr units have the ability to sprint

[woven haven]

but trying to describe which move is which is painge

[crimson hill]

In a while, we're gonna end up with char with ult10, or ult 15 xD

[woven haven]

when she has a million different ones

half of them you don't even see

[still moat]

i saw different guide of pyroath
one says 2x red orb + ba > ult
the other says 4x red orb + ba > ult
but when i do it i need 3x red orb + ba so i can ult

[woven haven]

wuh

[spiral merlin]

It’s hard when 80% of them involve flying and her ults are all to do with going airborne

[distant wren]

these 2 don't have timestop right?

[spiral merlin]

Correct

[shadow holly]

left one isnt even an ult yeah it doesnth ave time stop

[spiral merlin]

Left is basic attack and right is ult4

[woven haven]

nada

[distant wren]

yeah since it has a cinematic I assumed it was one

[shadow holly]

valid

[woven haven]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-pepe-cat-misinformation-gif-249026761315742996

[distant wren]

lmao so confusing

[spiral merlin]

That looks like a fury guide

[woven haven]

why does that first clip look like fury...

[glass bay]

time chaos 19

[velvet hedge]

Chaos 0:19

156400

[still moat]

because it is

[jaunty beacon]

i though the same

[woven haven]

[jaunty beacon]

my fury detector tickles

[still moat]

is wrong ?

[jaunty beacon]

https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/32/3242/324299/thumb.png

[woven haven]

if its fury there's a 50% chance of it being wrong

[woven haven]

idk about u but i wouldn't take that chance

[still moat]

thats very specific..

[jaunty beacon]

more like 75%

[woven haven]

well yeah he specialises in misinfo

[still moat]

so which one is correct then for SS0 pyroath ?

[distant wren]

when I first started lurking frequently in this channel I didn't know a lot of things, including why ppl distrust fury
then close to feral debut I saw ppl talking abt the "bugs" that she has, which they heard from fury
I checked his vid regarding that and it was clearly on him

[shadow holly]

bugs?

[distant wren]

started doubting the guy from that point

[spiral merlin]

You must learn the tale of warrior paper

[woven haven]

PAPER WARRIOR

[distant wren]

he said she had "targeting issues"

[spiral merlin]

I played Karen ss0 about 1 months before I upgrade her to ss3, so i knew how ss0 she is.

Everything you know about Karen and Selena in global community were born from the people who only use papers + calculator and calculate them into theory number but never mald in real game. Karen ss0 is suck was said by weak play and skill issue player. Then they will told you to not belive in me because they cannot effort my weapon resonance galleria and ss3 things.

You have 2 choices, believe in my mald and experience or warrior paper, pick one.

[still moat]

this is my clip, she requires 3x red + ba before she can ult, or 2x red + ba onto another red

maybe im using her wrong

[distant wren]

when he pressed her ult BEFORE the new enemy wave spawned

then complained that she hit air

[shadow holly]

💀

[livid lark]

ICANT

[spiral merlin]

You know you can spam reds

[raw swift]

[spiral merlin]

You can build up to 3 charges with 3 pings and release all in ba

[still moat]

how many reds i should spam

oh

can u give a clip

[distant wren]

like there's a split second between when the text for next wave appear and when the new wave actually spawn, but he used ult in that gap

[woven haven]

yeah he is definition of skill issue

[jaunty beacon]

the man takes +5 in ppc and call it mald

[woven haven]

and any opinion that isn't just pure math is garbage

[stiff burrow]

double off element this ppc im cooked

https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-anime-anya-crying-crying-crying-anime-girl-spy-x-family-gif-25998648

[spiral merlin]

i got no clips on me unless you want me to stream for a sec

[livid lark]

fury's grammar is also crazy lmao

[mighty tusk]

indication of asian

[still moat]

sure, i got no mic tho

[stiff burrow]

math says brs > hyperlee

i trust math

[livid lark]

cant even put together a proper sentence

[livid lark]

he's thai

[woven haven]

he's ESL

[spiral merlin]

That’s fine I don’t talk in vc it’s just to screen share

[still moat]

alright

[ashen edge]

@shadow holly 590k cursed is gone

[still moat]

just to be clear yours is ss0 right

[distant wren]

like his new vid of nanaknight powercreeping feral in ion too
he used ss3 nanami so no idea how true that is
but his explanation was poorly done as hell
when the point was comparison to feral
yet the dude said it's because 4pc heisen + shred weap reso

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

also f ker tried to promote "skip hyper" by posting SSS Lamia vs Moon Devourer score being higher than non SSS hyper

[distant wren]

when daren already have both of that

[spiral merlin]

sss but it doesn’t make a difference unless I do dimension slash

[woven haven]

and then backtracked when people traced it back to him

[stiff burrow]

filipinos have the best english among asians but they become cavemen after seeing mildly attractive gacha characters

[still moat]

ah okay

[woven haven]

...there's a new vid?

[ashen edge]

there is

[woven haven]

ok what the actual fK

[livid lark]

you didnt know?

[distant wren]

yea he posted it another day, it was in his description

[ashen edge]

now he know

[livid lark]

[woven haven]

HOW IS HE BLATANTLY MISINFO'ING

[ashen edge]

ss3 nanaknight in ion team

[distant wren]

• Karen has the role for building the affix gauge and she can proc eins effects reducing lightning resistant even she is dark character because of her leap skill.
• Lucia playstyle just like her fire rotation but she has to hold blue orb to activate the affix.
• Nanami's lightning shred(qte 35% + weapon resonance 8% + 4p heisen 15%) benefit for ion effect, after the test, I'm pretty sure she is better than Feral's buff.

[ashen edge]

hes cooking

[distant wren]

here it is

[stiff burrow]

who is this

is the channel name just fury

[woven haven]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[livid lark]

fury

[distant wren]

fury's memories

[woven haven]

THE WEP RESO AND HEISEN ARE ON DAREN

also wow he doesn't mention the 35% on QTE is only at SS3

actual garbage human being holy

[ashen edge]

i love minsinfo

[woven haven]

he can't even get his facts straight

[stiff burrow]

[still moat]

ahhh

[stiff burrow]

aether finding his house when next vid drops

[woven haven]

the point of Nanami is just personal DMG increase over Feral + more shred than Scire + swap CD reduc at SSS

but if he's going to claim heisen and wep reso make a difference when daren was already hogging those 2

[jaunty beacon]

every time i'm about to forget about fury, i remember his huaxu's kill

[woven haven]

that's just dumb

[livid lark]

what was his time

hell i mean

[jaunty beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzAGNYXMNyA&list=PLZuG2MvqiVWtQboLpC3DtlVUEBalky_hC&index=117

[distant wren]

send vid pls

ah aight thanks

[jaunty beacon]

read above please

[ashen edge]

19

[still moat]

damn this turns into hell of topic

[ashen edge]

even pre glory already 16 lmao

[shadow holly]

r3 plume with yuan ye and random memory resos is crazy

[mighty tusk]

not off-topic when it's about ppc/wz

[stiff burrow]

[jaunty beacon]

what he is doing is the strat before HT with ayla

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850308190762958858/964490664127639602/EDA358D7-8831-4CDF-9D64-0D3DB18EFA59.gif

[thorn creek]

Omg fury my idol

[woven haven]

yeah thanks for sharing this stuff with me i'm going to go puke now

[mighty tusk]

Furylao

[livid lark]

[mighty tusk]

want us to tag you here for fury vids?

[livid lark]

also the music choice is the most cringe

[woven haven]

i didn't realise people could f e ck up this badly but here we are

[livid lark]

i wanted to blow my eardrums out

[jaunty beacon]

ok let me find a good vassago kill

[deft apex]

feck

[jaunty beacon]

i think he got a really awful one

[thorn creek]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

[glass bay]

@trs see strim

[jaunty beacon]

well, nothing beats his plume ppc

except the lamia's misinfo on md maybe

[woven haven]

the skip hyper and skip 21 propaganda too

[livid lark]

he had r3

r3 plume and his resos werent even correct

[woven haven]

he's probably going all in on skip 21 now that he has a reason to say "wahhh look 21 bad"

[jaunty beacon]

man... he use plume on red... what can we do ?

[velvet agate]

wahhh look 21 bad

[woven haven]

he used to adamantly state on his special sheet that teneb s rank base shred was 15%

and then when people pointed out he was wrong he stealth fixed it and denied it ever being wrong

[jaunty beacon]

usual fury

[thorn creek]

Accountability 0

[jaunty beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90_qkUX6EhY&list=PLZuG2MvqiVWtQboLpC3DtlVUEBalky_hC&index=130

[crimson hill]

The guy still around?

[jaunty beacon]

time to blind people

[woven haven]

unfortunately

[jaunty beacon]

[woven haven]

he thinks of himself as the solo saviour of GLB people looking for CN info

[livid lark]

[stiff burrow]

[river nymph]

poor furry

[woven haven]

that's why he maintains an entire "meta" sheet himself using his own info and no one else's

(but in reality half of it is copied from bili and other people)

[deft apex]

exclusive dalao knowledge

[jaunty beacon]

anti warrior paper sheet

[woven haven]

he almost harmo'd mech right before wata announcement

so that should tell u smth about his instincts

[livid lark]

lmao

[deft apex]

please never try to harmo capri

[livid lark]

[thorn creek]

Brick others so u can be at the top. My dalao

[velvet agate]

Reminded me of his balter patch yt when he said it's free 14 themed pulls instead of 14 free pulls across 4 banners

[woven haven]

lmao what

[thorn creek]

[jaunty beacon]

true

he said it

[ripe stag]

Someone please help me stop this dude in #💬・pgr-general from bricking

Bro's gonna platinum brick his account

[woven haven]

nahh general is dumbland

[distant wren]

just let natural selection do its job

[summer topaz]

just let him

[ripe stag]

@woven haven @summer topaz just come to have fun

[thorn creek]

Tell ur helpers to do it

[ripe stag]

Helpers don't help

[shadow holly]

w4 btw
cool fire zone

[ripe stag]

General chat already bricked a dude's account today infront of me

[thorn creek]

Wow so I’m a helper too

Where my blue role

[woven haven]

i'm not helper i have no obligation

[ripe stag]

I tried to stop that dude from bricking

But everyone else made him brick

[ripe stag]

Yea normal

[thorn creek]

His fault for trusting strangers

[velvet agate]

It's the reason why it was quite chaos back then, that ppl said it was bug for not being 14 themer free pulls

[thorn creek]

My mom and dad taught me that

[velvet agate]

And link fury's vid when i asked abt the source

[distant wren]

hey he said vera was his fav, let him do his thing

[ripe stag]

And he's asking for meta

[distant wren]

wait really? lol

[velvet agate]

Why you even trying if it's #💬・pgr-general

[feral pollen]

[woven haven]

eww

now i hate him more

[still moat]

holy i did more after the tech now

[carmine reef]

Red fei wants bricks

[still moat]

i fked up the last 2 wave i could easily get 3mil

[upper egret]

Tldr what did they do?

[vague nebula]

can i get the story tldr? what did everyone make him do?

[ripe stag]

Bro someone said "it's just 1 reso, what's the big deal?"

💀

[velvet agate]

I'm not obliged to help because i'm not blue atm

[vague nebula]

[ripe stag]

Made the level 59 dude pull CW sig

And reso it

Triple reso

[thorn creek]

He’s gonna learn today

[velvet agate]

Also it's #💬・pgr-general and not gameplay help

[thorn creek]

Let him brick

[vague nebula]

[upper egret]

Oh my god

[summer topaz]

poeple kill for that 1 reso

[distant wren]

wait now he say he don't care about meta

[vague nebula]

[distant wren]

what is it then

[carmine reef]

thats my girl

[rugged cloud]

[upper egret]

Technically 3 reso is no big deal if u whel

[velvet agate]

Vera is meta in terms of waifu ranking, so he is not wrong

[still moat]

damn he is literally me

R3 attacker first

[distant wren]

that i can agree with

[carmine reef]

Vera is top 1 waifu

[solar pier]

For pc do u have to manually clcim orbs??? With mouse??

[livid lark]

eew you like crazy girls

[upper egret]

U can bind them to kb too

[carmine reef]

No
?

[distant wren]

I actually have r1 rozen and r3 garn

[ripe stag]

BRO COTTIE HARMO R3 DAWN SIG

[distant wren]

but i'm a spender lmao

[upper egret]

[ripe stag]

[upper egret]

Oh no

[thorn creek]

Bricked beyond help

[livid lark]

nah I like my sanity thanks

[velvet agate]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

[thorn creek]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

[steady otter]

[velvet agate]

But i'm red

[mighty tusk]

PLEASE KEEP SLURRING

[upper egret]

New brickistan material 👍

[thorn creek]

My true goal

[deft apex]

Please keep slurs to a maximum

[vague nebula]

[thorn creek]

Make slurs great again

[upper egret]

Building brickney land

[mighty tusk]

Please keep gooning to a maximum

[carmine reef]

NotLikeThis

[velvet agate]

Hi can we get proper pgr livestream like previous wuwa stream , without the chibis and eng dub

[upper egret]

No

[mighty tusk]

as long as they have redeem codes

[scarlet fern]

Is this background still obtainable

[upper egret]

10k bc codes

[velvet agate]

One code vs three codes

[carmine reef]

Oh sht right

[distant wren]

eng dub is here to stay

casuals like that stuff

[shadow holly]

its from bianca skin gacha
you would need to wait for rerun + spend 17.5k bc

[summer topaz]

isnt it rerunning next patch

[upper egret]

Thats the balter skin one right? So next patch from the skin gacha

[ripe stag]

Next patch yes
But that will mean you'll skip Watanabe Epitaph and Qu Shukra

[velvet agate]

Gonna be avaliable on brs patch rerun assuming glb didnt't get shafted

[livid lark]

next patch if you have the bc/rc
if you dont have stigmata you shouldnt grab it though

[scarlet fern]

17k!?!?!?!!?
WHAT

[deft apex]

so cheap clueless~2

[livid lark]

thats a whole character yea

[upper egret]

500 rc is 3 times more efficient

[velvet agate]

It's 17.5k bc to pity all rewards, you can pull it early

[scarlet fern]

I am broke rn after lamia

[mighty tusk]

and pity does not carry over

[ripe stag]

Dude
There's 4 dudes in #💬・pgr-general who picked up Daren coating without having Daren
1 of them don't even want Daren

[summer topaz]

Be prepared to unload everything even if you get the skin early gotta go all the way for that background

[distant wren]

believe in the heart of ur credit card

[remote pier]

should have let them find out after pulling and not hitting

[livid lark]

did you tell them that they cant use the skin

[scarlet fern]

I don't have stigmata
But the default background is TERRIBLE

[upper egret]

Wtf do you mean getting a skin for a character you dont plan to get omg

[mighty tusk]

you weren't here for 3rd anniv?

[thorn creek]

Dripped but bricked

[ripe stag]

Yes
3 of them will get Daren "eventually"
The other one just wants the coating

[livid lark]

well stay around for anniversaries if you want the background

[scarlet fern]

I told you
It's been barely a week I came here

[jaunty beacon]

Bruh

[distant wren]

what's the point when they can't even use it lmao

[livid lark]

wtf whats the point of getting the coating

[mighty tusk]

sadge, now wait for next year for new free background

[upper egret]

Bro not even dripped they dont have the char

[scarlet fern]

I can't bear to look at the default background
It looks so ass

[distant wren]

probably gambling addicts

[livid lark]

like it's literally useless

[ripe stag]

That duee doesn't know that getting coating doesn't unlock the character

[upper egret]

[ripe stag]

He said he'll use it on ember

[distant wren]

they would defend fgo gacha for sure

[livid lark]

has he tried to find it?

[mighty tusk]

even I'm tempted to pull on fate arrival looking at daren

[livid lark]

EMBER?!

[thorn creek]

Some plp just need to be bricked

[deft apex]

💀

[upper egret]

Bro

[livid lark]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[summer topaz]

wat wrong unit lol

[distant wren]

do it

[scarlet fern]

What's the difference in fate arrival and the normal arrival?

[livid lark]

omg whats happening tonight

[ripe stag]

"it's karenina's coating so I can use it on any Karenina right?"

[mighty tusk]

No
I have enough funds for both wata and qu on day 1

[ripe stag]

[upper egret]

[livid lark]

you dont pull from there

[thorn creek]

Fate higher rate but 80-100 pity, normal lower rate but pity at 60

[mighty tusk]

fate has higher rates but higher pity, either way dont pull on any arrival banners

[distant wren]

no no listen to ur urge instead

[thorn creek]

Don’t pull fate

[carmine reef]

I'm also dripping while bricked up
Thats what you said right

[mighty tusk]

[thorn creek]

Just do 60 pity banner every debut

[remote pier]

pull fate or go home

[thorn creek]

Zaddy

[upper egret]

[livid lark]

ask him to see if he can use it on ember

if he says hes going to do that

ask him whether he can show you his shiny coating

let him show it off

[distant wren]

yes, clearly since she's the same character, she can use a hammer too

[scarlet fern]

Should I be saving up for new characters
Or am I okay to spend more on getting lamia weapon and cub

[remote pier]

spend more on Mamia

[livid lark]

characters take prority

always save for the next s rank

[thorn creek]

Kuro so smart. 2 gacha skins in a row

[summer topaz]

lamia banner is gone save for wata and qu

[thorn creek]

[scarlet fern]

I already have lamia
I am talking abt her wep and cub

[remote pier]

Mamia deserves fish rights

[scarlet fern]

Even if lamia wep is 10x pulls away? (Probably)

[mighty tusk]

I remember this

[upper egret]

🧱

[distant wren]

me over here lowkey wishing future skins will be garbage so I won't feel bad abt not getting em

[summer topaz]

Oh well I wouldn’t risk 80% on cub

[livid lark]

lamia banner has ended

next one is epitaph

(which you should pull btw)

[scarlet fern]

Lamia
Weapon

[summer topaz]

weapon you can get anytime just save for now

[scarlet fern]

Alright

[mighty tusk]

Can't wait for future bricks due to wata

[scarlet fern]

How much exactly should I aim to save up for?

[thorn creek]

At least 15k

[mighty tusk]

how much pity on lamia banner?

[scarlet fern]

[thorn creek]

If from 0/60 pity

[scarlet fern]

0 probably since I haven't pulled after getting lamia

[mighty tusk]

15k BC yea

[remote pier]

don't forget to get your BRS to S at least to have rights

[mighty tusk]

make sure to do weeklies

[scarlet fern]

Always

[mighty tusk]

also events + cursed waves + DfM

[thorn creek]

Wdym at least SSS is minimum

You need the sticker

[ripe stag]

HYPERBRICK

[scarlet fern]

And who even is this brs

[livid lark]

collab character

[upper egret]

S+ or brick

[livid lark]

useless for meta

[scarlet fern]

Everyone is talking about brs in here
Don't even know if it's troll or not

[remote pier]

next fire dps

[upper egret]

Troll dw about it

[livid lark]

brs is legit
they re just memeing

[upper egret]

Unless