📨・meta-help

[livid lark]

lmao cos you're kiwiing?

[digital moat]

Ye LOL

I'll post that on youtube

As a meme xd

[lilac wraith]

just that his ss0 is not worth to harmo at all , even post qu patch

[mighty tusk]

lmao 25 sec chaos MD with dark

[zenith thorn]

ss0 right
2signa,2lwh

[still moat]

ss3

[buoyant hornet]

Btw is it worth using brs as eins holder for wata + empy team or is there anyone else better aside from pulse?

[zenith thorn]

oh
just 4cot

[still moat]

for ppc ?

[livid lark]

btw, hyperdawn goods just dropped on taobao

[zenith thorn]

right

[digital moat]

hehe ss0 fire is faste-

[livid lark]

[lilac wraith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1279809331910545580/Screenshot_20240830-203823_PGR.png?ex=66e8e892&is=66e79712&hm=5c58c260f60e0bb46f73a5a785cc13d399070128d650589a07d645d6bc01ea8e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=275

[zenith thorn]

works for both wz and ppc
not an expert for ss3 tho

[lilac wraith]

[still moat]

ah

[zenith thorn]

so idk

me ss0 f2p

[lilac wraith]

need 3-4 sets more to build

[zenith thorn]

r u gonna build dv balter

[buoyant hornet]

Is there any good youtuber/reference sheet for f2p teams in ppc and wz?

[zenith thorn]

windbell and snazz respectively

[buoyant hornet]

Ik a good f2p youtuber for wz (haloist) but not ppc

[digital moat]

We have a ss sheet

[lilac wraith]

4 patton set , 4 charlotte with 12 atk , fred with 12 atk respectively

[digital moat]

(Containts sss amps ggwp)

[pine slate]

[zenith thorn]

truly the ss0 sheet

[buoyant hornet]

I've been watching snazz but he has hilariously abnormal luck with sigs for a f2p so it's kinda hard to use him as a reference consistently 😭

[lilac wraith]

ss3 cw wdym

:clueless:

[buoyant hornet]

Good for him though

[digital moat]

Seeing shitlena makes me want to break her neck

[lilac wraith]

btw ss10 is still ss

[mighty tusk]

ok this is much better lol

[digital moat]

Where does the 10 go

[zenith thorn]

idk who other prominent ss0 cc we have tbh

[digital moat]

Up my ass?

[stuck sphinx]

I’m shitlena

[buoyant hornet]

Wtf is this ppc rotation

[summer topaz]

sss is still ss unless you activate the skill i totally didnt learn the hard way with alisa

[buoyant hornet]

Bro 2 ice bosses in a row is actually insane

[digital moat]

My only team without ss0 or ss3 is physical

[mighty tusk]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P-yoXNQ7ALEvshhmdPdjBjhHqUFfWEMbUSDli_LL9JM/edit?gid=0#gid=0

this might help with set of bosses

[buoyant hornet]

What boss/invest/team

[mighty tusk]

MD using dark

[digital moat]

[mighty tusk]

223 013 111

[buoyant hornet]

Who's MD?

[mighty tusk]

moon eater

[digital moat]

Ass eater

[buoyant hornet]

Oh

[lilac wraith]

poria siren hamlet next week btw

[zenith thorn]

can it eat my a-

[pine slate]

[digital moat]

Wide open

[zenith thorn]

[ripe stag]

Can I eat your pancrease

[zenith thorn]

easy rot

[zenith thorn]

no thanks it's only for kurai

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/yamauchi-sakura-gif-20072564

[buoyant hornet]

Btw can someone help me understand this method of listing invest lol

[mighty tusk]

@pine slate if you use dark for chaos MD, you might get 20-23 sec

[buoyant hornet]

I still don't really get it 😭

[pine slate]

hmjj

[buoyant hornet]

Who's poria?

[pine slate]

thats way better than my current 30s

[digital moat]

30s omg

[digital moat]

Fu shen

[mighty tusk]

yea I got 23 lol

[ripe stag]

Can you even use dark on MD when voodoo is there

[mighty tusk]

use lightning on test-elite

[pine slate]

yes ofc, what's stopping u

[mighty tusk]

lightning the sacrificial lamb

[ripe stag]

On Voodoo ?

[buoyant hornet]

Ig use balter for first 2 diffs on voodoo

[ripe stag]

Then what about MD ?

[zenith thorn]

first set refer to invest (2 = SS,4=S+)
2nd set refer to wep resos (1 = 1 reso,5* = 5 star weapon)
3rd set refer to harmo (1 = harmo)

[digital moat]

Fire dark

[mighty tusk]

3 fire ap for test-knight

[digital moat]

If your fire is that bad

[livid lark]

your ss3 car?

[buoyant hornet]

Ty

[livid lark]

[zenith thorn]

e.g
222 322 100

[mighty tusk]

I already 580k MD so this round is a bonus for trying dark

[ripe stag]

My fire is

2.322 002 000

0 means r0 right ?

[buoyant hornet]

So 3 = SS3?

[digital moat]

Yeah

[lilac wraith]

it's poria

[ripe stag]

Yes

[mint burrow]

what element is luna: oblivion?

[zenith thorn]

3 = SSS
2.1 = ss3

[ripe stag]

Got SS3 car

[lilac wraith]

void

[livid lark]

void

[livid lark]

fushen

[ripe stag]

Luna

• Laurel: Dark (powercrept by Lamia: Lost Lullaby)
• Oblivion: Void

[mint burrow]

thats different from dark right?

[livid lark]

yes

[ripe stag]

Yes

[zenith thorn]

pls contain slurs at a minimum

[digital moat]

ok chicken curry

[ripe stag]

Void is a new element

[lilac wraith]

can i kick these guys to #💬・pgr-general for mentioning fushen instead of poria ?

[livid lark]

void is a completely new element

[mint burrow]

sounds good thanks

[livid lark]

helpers got no mute perms

sucks to have blu

[zenith thorn]

blu no rights

[ripe stag]

Can I wear my black hoodie and go to her house with a flower bouquet?

[digital moat]

Helper help himself learn how to spell fu shen

[zenith thorn]

yes

[ripe stag]

[buoyant hornet]

So is it always attacker>tank>amp in order?

[ripe stag]

Finna commit Hikaru on Karen

[livid lark]

she'll immediate reject your proposal

[ripe stag]

You didn't get the reference

[digital moat]

If all of them are present in the team yea

[buoyant hornet]

Cool ty

[zenith thorn]

yes
unless stated otherwise (saying your team units before/after numbers)

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-hoshino-stab-oshi-no-ko-gif-8368577457419477918

[pine slate]

i cant replicate my 14s knight md run anymore

AINTNAURWAY

[ripe stag]

Skill issue

Dazzal
Here's the crown of King of Skill Issue

[zenith thorn]

no dmg hax?

[buoyant hornet]

So this is SS r0 lamia, SS r1 daren, SSS r3 capri all harmo

[mint burrow]

who should I get? I have lamia, feral and cw

[mighty tusk]

yes

[zenith thorn]

phat whel

[ripe stag]

Got Rigor ?

[zenith thorn]

fund me some rc

[ripe stag]

Rosetta I mean

[mighty tusk]

this from the man who harmo his lightning

[buoyant hornet]

Pulse and rosett@

[pine slate]

I'm a casual, no dmg hax

[mint burrow]

not yet

[ripe stag]

Wtf phat whel

[zenith thorn]

nosense

[ripe stag]

Then her

[zenith thorn]

no proof

[buoyant hornet]

Does balter do well against Machi I wonder

[pine slate]

Idk

Try urself

[buoyant hornet]

Because I'm tempted to try some dark runs on it but I need dark for moon eater because my fire team has no lee lmaoooo

And ofc voodoo is on so she needs dark too

[mighty tusk]

smh, so many harmos and resos

[zenith thorn]

[buoyant hornet]

I did last 2 madorea diffs with light and turns out I forgot to equip eins on garnet

Wonderful

[feral pollen]

bro wtf is this ppc week

[still moat]

is mandatory to do this for higher score ?

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao I had her equip her old 2pc heisen set for babel 💀

[dreamy pelican]

first try for dark wz, s5 lamia r1 sig; is this good, or can i aim much higher?

[buoyant hornet]

And forgot to switch

[buoyant hornet]

In my personal experience it's not worth going out of your way for but if it works out it works out

[dreamy pelican]

where did my post go

it just never got sent here did it

ill send my wz score again then

[still moat]

so if i somehow happen to be able to do it just do it if not then dont bother ?

[buoyant hornet]

Which rank?

Leader, hero, elite etc?

[dreamy pelican]

leader

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's good but if you hyperfixate on it too much you can ruin buff timers and the flow of the waves

[still moat]

alright

[buoyant hornet]

Can definitely be a lot better but since she's s5 and you're new to using her, this is pretty decent :)

[dreamy pelican]

my ass was on autopilot while doing this; i think i can get much higher if i malded or sumn

[still moat]

my first time hitting 3mil in score

[dreamy pelican]

what score do you think i should strive for? 1.3, 1.4?

[buoyant hornet]

Oh what's your invest lol

[buoyant hornet]

Idk tbh I haven't been in leader bracket for a very long time now

[still moat]

which team

[mighty tusk]

Also Hi @zenith thorn

[buoyant hornet]

But a realistic milestone you could aim for is 1.2 or 1.3 mil yeah

[livid lark]

me not in any popular guild

[zenith thorn]

why are you in arcad

[mighty tusk]

yea my previous guild is semi-dead

[lilac wraith]

it will be tedious to off ele machi with low invest

[mighty tusk]

migrated since semi-dead guild

[zenith thorn]

ur gonna be gr by guts

[livid lark]

im in cozy

i dont think anyone who frequents here is from there

besides me

[still moat]

is CW cub better on skill 1 or 2 ?

[livid lark]

1 for wz
2 for ppc

[buoyant hornet]

Well it's 222 015 100 vs. SS sigless ayla and no glory, no plume

[still moat]

ah okay

[still moat]

why 2 for ppc ?

[raw swift]

I'm getting so many mixed answers on if I'm gonna get qu and watanabe or if I don't have enough

[livid lark]

higher dmg scaling

[still moat]

ahh

[livid lark]

cub che ting

[buoyant hornet]

You'll get them dw

[raw swift]

I need to get them omgaa

[buoyant hornet]

Anyone who says otherwise is either trolling or they're too used to spending bc on sigs

If anything you'll even get them comfortably

[raw swift]

[buoyant hornet]

You have almost 10k rn, there's still all the bc from brs patch and then there's brs from wata patch

And from story/interludes/alternative interpretation/stronghold

MAYBE you won't get Qu on day 1 of her patch depending on your resources but

You'll get her

[pine slate]

@mighty tusk whats ur run like for chaos md

[mighty tusk]

2 rot, then finish with arm rip

[feral pollen]

i read 'arm lick'

[livid lark]

get some rest

[mighty tusk]

also try comparing matrix lightning vs glorious after

whichever makes you score higher

[livid lark]

need to get 580k MD with fire just once

[boreal crypt]

does the current pity carry over to the next brs collab banner?

[livid lark]

no

[mighty tusk]

different banners

[pine slate]

aight

@normal sierra @shadow holly u guys got any ref for chaos and hell md with dark?

[stiff burrow]

What are this week's ppc elements

[mighty tusk]

fire,ice,dark

moon eater, machi, voodoo

[dreamy pelican]

oh they have 10k bc? yeah, they most likely will get wata and qu with sig

maybe around 300-400 bc off?

but that can be countered by stronghold, cursed waves, what have you

[still moat]

i saw showcase of dark team on wz with alisa replacing capri, why is that ?

[dreamy pelican]

probably because their crapi isn't on sss, and alisa has dv harmo

[mighty tusk]

this largely depends if they have ss3 daren

plus sss capriccio

[raw swift]

Not risking the 80/20

[still moat]

so if my capri isnt SSS i should use alisa instead ?

[mighty tusk]

if you dont have ss3 daren

[raw swift]

A well invested alisa will work or SSS Vera rozen

[still moat]

i have ss3 daren

[mighty tusk]

then you should rotate

[raw swift]

U have sss capi?

[still moat]

no sss capri

[raw swift]

Not really worth then

[mighty tusk]

does capri have sig?

[still moat]

she does

[raw swift]

Hmmmm

[still moat]

no reso

[mighty tusk]

try rotating then

then compare using alisa

[still moat]

with capri ?

[raw swift]

Try a rotation and no rotation

[dreamy pelican]

if crapi isnt sss, alisa with dv harmo is better

if you dont have harmo on alisa, best to go sss rozen then xdd

but since you have ss3 daren, would be better to just do rotations and cope on crapi

[mighty tusk]

you can try rotating

[still moat]

i tried rotating with capri but she isnt really doing anything

[dreamy pelican]

i hate ice ppc

2 weeks in a row now i have to cope

[still moat]

just to do some damage while waiting for lamia cd switch

[lilac wraith]

wata and qu are possible. getting both sigs are unlikely

[mighty tusk]

that's the point

[still moat]

mmhm

[mighty tusk]

she's only filler till daren and lamia turn

[dreamy pelican]

is this fei dalao's alt account?

[still moat]

cant alisa do that ?

[lilac wraith]

who's that

[dreamy pelican]

off element pepega

[mighty tusk]

she deals phy dmg and affected by offelement penalty

[still moat]

i guess

[mighty tusk]

but you can try to compare

using alisa vs capri rotating

[raw swift]

You could give her like 3s of field time

[still moat]

i'll try

[raw swift]

You don't need to do her full rotation since she's not sss

[buoyant hornet]

The things I have to do to save lamia AP 😭

[dreamy pelican]

i think its just better for you to not even proc ult

[raw swift]

Wait am I supposed to save lamia ap

[dreamy pelican]

just spam orbs and insta swap back to lamia

[mighty tusk]

Im gonna use 2 ap for MD

[buoyant hornet]

Nah I'm just a tryhard and have a bad fire team lol

[still moat]

huh why is it zoomed like that

[raw swift]

Oh right I have only hyperlee

[mighty tusk]

from 30-32 sec chaos using fire vs 23 sec chaos using dark

[dreamy pelican]

does ppc have an off element penalty too? my ice team sucks so much id rather just play dark on hell

[raw swift]

🧐

[dreamy pelican]

why not?

[raw swift]

Less damage but i don't believe there is

[mighty tusk]

not off-element penalty

[dreamy pelican]

atp i might just bench my ice team entirely

jesus christ i cant bear the cope

[raw swift]

Me personally I'm not gonna bother saving lamia ap i don't have an alternative dark team

[mighty tusk]

I'm gonna use lightning on test-elite voodoo as fodder

[lilac wraith]

technically not but on ele deals more dmg so they effectively have more HP if you using off element

[dreamy pelican]

fair enuf. ill take it

chat

is it better to sss ayla, or ss rosetta

that extra phys shred is juicy ngl

[still moat]

this is weird

if i use alisa, lamia have to ping more orb to cast sign

does capri have anything to do with that ?

[mighty tusk]

nah

[lilac wraith]

for example dark will deal x2 on lilith vs x1 with phys

[dreamy pelican]

begging that lamia can still 2 rot machia on hell 🙏

[still moat]

idk how did that happen then

[dreamy pelican]

my ass is NOT bringing the ice team to hell

[dreamy pelican]

its gotta be something else entirely then

[dapper skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1213313882387652658/SPOILER_Screenshot_2024-03-01-23-41-50-917_com.kurogame.gplay.punishing.grayraven.en.jpg?ex=66e8eb1b&is=66e7999b&hm=8bb3d8f756b04ddecf76ca7a29c010ad1593ef2f84d909ffb0a39e154dab68a7&

[rocky wedge]

@frozen creek hi whel

[analog plaza]

Sniffa

[buoyant hornet]

My lightning takes 25s to kill on elite 💀💀💀💀

[analog plaza]

Sniffa 2.0

[lilac wraith]

please demote him for me

[buoyant hornet]

So I have to do gymnastics to save lamia ap

[still moat]

also yeah if i use capri the intro zoom is fixed

but when i use alisa its zoomed to karenina pits

[mighty tusk]

I expected that

[lilac wraith]

lee skippers in shambles

[dreamy pelican]

they have been ever since his banner ended

[shy bane]

i dont have fire/ice team for current ppc
what team should i use for those 2 bosses?
i have balter-cw-lamia team only

[quartz dove]

Gotta split lamia ap for vodoo and hamlet

[lilac wraith]

there is no hamlet this week

hamlet is next rot

[lilac wraith]

what invest ?

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fnaf-crying-gif-24305969

[raw swift]

Cooked...

[stiff burrow]

Tfw only phys lightning dark built

[raw swift]

We're cooked worse than Lucia's food

[livid lark]

just use light/phys for machi

[quartz dove]

Oh wait its machi

[livid lark]

not mado lmao

[lilac wraith]

MD machi voodoo

[quartz dove]

[shy bane]

balter ss0 + sig
echo s0 + harmo sig
rigor s0

cw s5 + sig
lux s0
arclight s0

lamia ss0 + sig + cub
daren s0 + sig
rozen ss3

[lilac wraith]

you didn't even do ppc last rot

[quartz dove]

I WAS LATE

I miss my hell mado

[pine slate]

ok i got 22s chaos md but

[rose yew]

Sig but s0?

[quartz dove]

[pine slate]

i first did a 23s run

[mighty tusk]

1 sec better than mine

[quartz dove]

Typical wuwa habitant massive whel energy

[pine slate]

it was basically the same run as my 22s but qte was delayed for some reason

[lilac wraith]

@ashen edge need thoughts for this..

[raw swift]

QTE bot

[lilac wraith]

don't do it late smh

[shy bane]

what whale just lucky

[ashen edge]

look tough

[shy bane]

SS-ing from ppc skull only

[pine slate]

@ashen edge why is my 23s run (the one on the right) had delayed qte on 2nd rot and also no matrix trigger

[shy bane]

should i put lamia on hells and do the lower diff with cw/balters

[lilac wraith]

it's coping either way .. i guess?

[raw swift]

If u have no one else then ok

[ashen edge]

doubt phys could do sth cuz s rigor

all 3 bosses have really high SA effective bars

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[stiff burrow]

Pls speed up qu release

[ashen edge]

best i could think for his acc is
2 fish md
3 fish doodoo

[still moat]

am i supposed to finish all daren leap attack on wz ? it does little damage and took a long time

[lilac wraith]

machi hell has like 15% ish edr too

[ashen edge]

machi prolly light and phys will take care of it

[stiff burrow]

ok then

[mighty tusk]

yes, ss3 daren has thermal field

[velvet hedge]

Character not found.

[stiff burrow]

[mighty tusk]

sss scire

[velvet hedge]

Karenina • Scire

<:S_:1005718220663165050> <:tank:1003700212109430794> <:dark:1003687698483130368> Skills (Lvl. 18)

Banishing Sunglow
Level 1 — Unlocks at SS3Gains an extra 3-Ping opportunity triggered by pressing and holding Basic Attack to charge (up to three times). Upon the third 3-Ping, the Base DMG of the corresponding Leap Attack and Radiant Whirlwind will increase by 400% and 75% respectively. Upon casting Starshatter Horizon, Karenina: Scire will generate a 15-second Thermal Field, dealing 75% Dark DMG once and inflicting Chain Fusion that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% to targets entering the field for 10s.
Level 2 — Unlocks at SSS
When in the Anti-gravity status, Karenina: Scire deals 10% more Dark DMG. Upon dealing damage, reduces the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 5% for 8s. The duration will refresh whenever it is triggered. Press and hold Basic Attack to make Karenina: Scire start charging and immediately activate QTEs that are not on cooldown. Radiant Whirlwind will spin faster.

11 / 12

[pine slate]

both r same run but 22s run had earlier qte proc and also triggered matrix

[ashen edge]

well ye, no choice either

[pine slate]

[still moat]

mmhm

i tried using capri and alisa they do same score

[ashen edge]

wut, i dont get what you mean

[mighty tusk]

Do you ult with capri btw?

[still moat]

yeah

[pine slate]

so both runs are double dive rot kill

[still moat]

just enough until lamia cd is up

[pine slate]

for some reason, on the right vid the qte didnt trigger early and tidal orb didnt proc matrix

i sent 2 vids

[mighty tusk]

You're playing on phone right? Is that why you "struggle" with daren?

Keyboard autofire would really help daren

[lilac wraith]

mobile racism smh

[still moat]

pc

i used the rapid fire

[mighty tusk]

[ashen edge]

2nd clip your first qte set is slower than 1st clip

[still moat]

but it took like 3 spin

[pine slate]

hmjj

[mighty tusk]

It should only take 2 spins though, you do have her sig right?

[still moat]

i do

im supposed to cancel it ?

with ult ?

[mighty tusk]

Yea

[still moat]

oh

[mighty tusk]

2 spins is enough for ult

Try doing the run again

[still moat]

even non 999 stack ?

[mighty tusk]

Yea as long as you can ult with daren

[still moat]

alright

[ashen edge]

you dont need 999 stacks scire

[shy bane]

aight, thank

[ashen edge]

her max cap for ult dmg buff is lesser than 999

[dapper skiff]

Do you have weapon resonance for her?

[ashen edge]

basically 2 spins then dodge cancel the last hit

[still moat]

r2

[zenith thorn]

thanks game

[dapper skiff]

U should be able to ult with 2 spin

UNLESS

You're swapping in when there is no wave on field

-12 energy

[ashen edge]

unless you swap too early and there's no enemies on the field

it wont count ur swapin orb and you will lose the energy from it

then your spin will take longer to get ult by a split second

but the usual rotation for scire is 2 times spin + ult then gtfo

or 2.5 spin when lamia cdr is not up in time

[ashen edge]

idk about matrix part does dive can dodge his attack?

but ye 2nd clip you qte slower than 1st clip

qte cdr started whenever the character leave the field iirc or it starts right away after you trigger it

[still moat]

still the same

the highest one is with capri

[stuck sphinx]

dodge solves this

core best girl

[velvet hedge]

Karenina • Scire

<:S_:1005718220663165050> <:tank:1003700212109430794> <:dark:1003687698483130368> Skills (Lvl. 18)

Meteor Track
Karenina: Scire wields the Blast Hammer to transform it into a cannon to fire a gravity shot forward to pull the enemies on the path, dealing 220%/440%/660% Dark DMG. If any Blue or Yellow Orb is pinged while Karenina is launching an attack, she will stay in the attack status and fire a shot again, dealing damage based on the number of the orbs pinged.

3 / 12

[dapper skiff]

[stuck sphinx]

that is not...

[dapper skiff]

Always has been

[raw swift]

best girl???!

But

That's not possible

[stuck sphinx]

anyways

[dapper skiff]

That means you already doing great then

[spiral merlin]

Cogs is weird

[dapper skiff]

The rest is pretty much minmaxing on minor things from each wave threshold and chaining waves with tank class or qte

[stuck sphinx]

boss dark/?

[still moat]

mmhm

[dapper skiff]

Quite difficult if you aren't a dedicated warzone player

[still moat]

i'll mald again if im in danger of getting demoted

[stuck sphinx]

whats the weather

[ashen edge]

record a run if you can so ppl can see what are u doin

[stuck sphinx]

ew cw weather

[ashen edge]

[dapper skiff]

Recording the run gives us better views on what You did

[still moat]

okay

[dapper skiff]

So we can point out what you should and shouldn't do

Most of the time realization hits once people see the vid

I still remember that one guy who never used sw on ss0 Balt for wz

[stuck sphinx]

bro skipped celica class

[digital moat]

Wadapak

[ashen edge]

what

[digital moat]

[stuck sphinx]

i dont want to know what other zaza there is

[dapper skiff]

It was like kale Patch

[stuck sphinx]

guy who does 0 stack hyper ult

[digital moat]

Dats crazy

[dapper skiff]

He asked how to improve and sent vid

Never hold attack

[raw swift]

I have so many questions on cw solo optimal runs

[dapper skiff]

Asked why

He don't know

Never did it once since balter debut

[scarlet fern]

What's the best option here?

[dapper skiff]

Gungnir if you have rigor

[raw swift]

Should I skip the 3 pings? Do I need to get 600 stacks to get the full damage or does the dash that gives like 90 stacks enough

[dapper skiff]

If you somehow doesn't have rigor even with the beginner mission selector, tonitrus is best bet

[stuck sphinx]

nah

[raw swift]

Why that

[dapper skiff]

Yes and no

[scarlet fern]

I have a 5* on her
Is it necessary for me to get a 6* for her? As I don't have a team to use her with

[dapper skiff]

Get her 6* then

[stuck sphinx]

you should pull alisa sig and select pulse sig

[dapper skiff]

She would be your start for making a physical team

[raw swift]

I need 600 stacks or does the dash cover the rest if it's not full

[dapper skiff]

Funds doko

Back to back S soon™

[stuck sphinx]

new player has plenty

💳

[dapper skiff]

You do all of those in solo yes

That's pretty much it

[stuck sphinx]

they can do derived from shitrix

[dapper skiff]

Solo was never been easy to optimize

If you're asking how to improve, we can't certainly said what part to improve after you did most of things properly

[raw swift]

Don't got sig so I need to dash at 510

[dapper skiff]

Solo is heavily depends on how much damage you deals on each wave

Otherwise just unga bunga with solo and call it a day

[stuck sphinx]

depends on what you mean by easy
swap has a lot less flexibility

[dapper skiff]

Get better score

[raw swift]

I don't have ss feral or even her sig

Unfortunately qte bot for now

[dapper skiff]

I would say swap has even more flexibility than solo

[raw swift]

Solo is pretty straightforward for the most part excluding the early stages

[ripe stag]

Solo mostly needs to deal with

• Optimising orb usage
• Optimising damage per wave
• Managing QTE trigger

Swap mostly needs to deal with

• Try to not swap when there's no enemy
• Optimising when you swap
• Optimising damage per wave
• Positioning
• Buff stack

[ripe stag]

Lamia solo is way more smooth compared to CW I feel like

[raw swift]

I feel like it too

[dapper skiff]

Because it is

[ripe stag]

Maybe because she has a wider range of damage enabling

[raw swift]

There's not much of a struggle in orb building

[ripe stag]

With dlt
She barely runs out of orbs

And when she does run out of orbs
You are probably gonna ult anyways

[dapper skiff]

Cw solo has too much flexibility and core mechanic lock that holds you from doing anything significant

Lamia is just
Orb spam
Basic
Orb spam
Basic

[ripe stag]

Also the fact that lamia has many high damage sources

[dapper skiff]

Her core orb does damage yeah

[raw swift]

Yeah I should've probably saved Lamia AP when my fire team is trash...

[dapper skiff]

Unlike some motivated red biker

[raw swift]

Akira

[ripe stag]

A lot of damage

Taking out 2 early waves in one go isnt something you can miss

[ripe stag]

And people still be like "CW deals more damage than lamia"

[raw swift]

I still don't know how to dive cancel

[dapper skiff]

Me neither

[raw swift]

People actually think this?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[dapper skiff]

Not planning to learn it ever either

[ripe stag]

A lot of them

[dapper skiff]

I'd take -2s with lamia dive than do dive cancel just for 2 more second

[raw swift]

My lamia isn't even ht and (at the time) used a 4* weapon and did more damage than my fully ht cw

[dapper skiff]

2s faster time in ppc

That's literally the only purpose of dive cancel

[raw swift]

Gonna practice in lamia trial zone

[dapper skiff]

Good luck

For me

[ripe stag]

Globlul CW simps still arguing with people with brains in Globlul server about the fact that Lamia is better on Lamia ppc than CW

[dapper skiff]

Just like paint dupe, I'm too lazy to practice it to use it whenever needed

Kale is trash DPS anyway

We need qu faster

[ripe stag]

True
But then again Qukra be like

• 3 + 1 orbs > core passive mode
• 3 x 3 orbs > basic hold to exit core passive mode
• Ult 1
• 4 x 3 orbs > ult 2

Idk how SS0 is gonna solo even with dlt

[dapper skiff]

Idc how scuffed her solo is

At least she does damage

And has aoe

That's all it matter

[wind basin]

True

[ripe stag]

She's likeb

One small mistake and you do 3 + 3 ping

And your entire rotation is dead

[dapper skiff]

Can mald for it

Malding mob with kale is harder

[ripe stag]

Worst part is

She's the type of unit who'll love that free matrix on core passive from sig

@dapper skiff

Without sig
You practically can't Qukra

💀

[rose yew]

just fish for matrix?

[still moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhPjjyGdthc

[dapper skiff]

Just bait matrix smh

[ripe stag]

How about dlt ?

Hah

Even with dlt she's coping

Imagine no dlt

💀

[dapper skiff]

Wdym

It's solo

[stuck sphinx]

swap: go fast

[dapper skiff]

Dlt or not is not a problem

[fluid crow]

Since brs is a A rank construct, will she be included in the base banner pool?

[stuck sphinx]

swap needs to do positioning as well

[ripe stag]

Me trying to swap with capri

[ripe stag]

No

She's a Collab unit

[stuck sphinx]

capri can ult in her amp buff

[ripe stag]

You can say she's a premium A rank unit

[dapper skiff]

You'll realized this after you played solo cw and lamia often enough

[ripe stag]

I
Literally play lamia solo and used to CW solo

I use DLT

All the time

[dapper skiff]

Yeah

Your rotation is all over the places

[rose yew]

swapping when no orbs is the way

[mighty tusk]

Also daren starter

[stuck sphinx]

mikulao

[mighty tusk]

Capri should start then swap to daren for thermal field

Then do 2 rot for lamia if ss with sig

[dapper skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1276446116497461308/SS0_Lamia_Rotation.mp4?ex=66c98e95&is=66c83d15&hm=1f76465ab41fe3853569d38fe3a28f1c48034c5fdce91815c20cb70cd63556d3&
@still moat try this rotation

The difference is whenever you swap to crapi, you only ping orbs and swap to lamia as soon as her cool down ends

[dapper skiff]

Even with dlt double is hard with ss to not go over amp

[rose yew]

what bracket is this
laurel sub dps at 150w here

[dapper skiff]

Evel fel prefer 1.5 rot for ss0

[mighty tusk]

[dapper skiff]

The sooner u swap to lamia the more rot you get by the end of the run

Because you have 10s uptime lamia with 15s CD each rot

25s per rot
Instead of around 28s per rot with double

Because u have to cope you way for second rot with ss0

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1052073604088614974.png

Double with SS0 might have orb issues too even with dlt

[still moat]

why lamia rotation ends like that ?

[dapper skiff]

It's called 1.5 rot

[still moat]

ah

whats the advantage

[dapper skiff]

SS0 rank lamia can't utilize double rot efficiently without taking too long

[still moat]

ss3 lamia can ?

[dapper skiff]

ss3 can yes

[stiff burrow]

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

What's yours tho

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

U never said it since I'm here

[still moat]

ss0

[dapper skiff]

SS0 then

[still moat]

but i can ss3

[dapper skiff]

You're a spender?

[still moat]

not really

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 upgrade is good if you can afford it

[still moat]

i buy monthly card

[dapper skiff]

Good enough

[cerulean grotto]

Rather Ss3 old man

[dapper skiff]

Yeag

[rose yew]

6.6k more bc
ye you can afford some ss3 units

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 lamia isn't really THAT big to actually get tbh

[still moat]

alright

[wind basin]

Future chars ss3 is more impactful

[rose yew]

like brs

[cerulean grotto]

Correct nya

Brs sss most worth investment in near future

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1252885202062278707.png

Something fishy is going on

[rose yew]

3s brs double dmg than hyper ss3 frfr

[raw swift]

bar1

[cerulean grotto]

Agreed

[rose yew]

just the regular things in gph nya

[dapper skiff]

As soon as I see a newb
You'll be ded

Like dead dead

[cerulean grotto]

An existence even more mysterious than pv

[rose yew]

technically I'm still a newbie since I haven't learned how to fdodge

[rugged cloud]

[wise jasper]

is my dark lineup using the correct memory set ?
lamia 5* wp: sigx4 cottiex2
selena 5* wp: sigx4 cottiex2
daren 6* wp harmo: sigx4 dvcx4

[rugged cloud]

what's fdodge?

[cerulean grotto]

This guy is cooking

[dapper skiff]

No

[rugged cloud]

sig is not signa, right?
you meanlike, derketto on lamia, right?

[rose yew]

failed dodge

[wise jasper]

which one should i change ?

[dapper skiff]

U spam orb while spamming balter dodge and hold it in the correct time to actually trigger her matrix dodge

[raw swift]

what is your rank? how many S are they?

[wise jasper]

yes

[dapper skiff]

[rugged cloud]

[rose yew]

[wise jasper]

lamia still S, selena SS, daren ss3

[rose yew]

I use 4 cottie for warzone tho

[wise jasper]

for lamia ?

[dapper skiff]

While doing that, that said 3p is actually proc while you dodge is processing, giving you smooth transition without excessive move or attack

[rose yew]

I don't have lamia

eins laurel gameplay nya

[dapper skiff]

Resulting 1s faster time

[rugged cloud]

[dapper skiff]

Fake dodge example

You can use fake dodge to trigger qte before Balter uses her core passive

It's a really useful tech mostly in ppc

[rose yew]

why voodoo

[dapper skiff]

Ease of access and faster time

[dapper skiff]

Because it's the only fdoj run I record

[rose yew]

[shadow holly]

nah idk honestly if it's even worth trying to do it with dark at our invest

[dapper skiff]

Tbh that was for 9s

But I'm too slow to get 9s insta on phone

[stuck sphinx]

Lamia double rot doesn’t kill?

[raw swift]

lamia double rot chaos is 3s lamia lol

[shadow holly]

my brother in Christ it's almost 10mil hp 😭

[stuck sphinx]

Yeah but hyper is trash

[rose yew]

it's like 16+ that strat

in seconds

[stuck sphinx]

Lamia gets female buff

[rose yew]

[mighty tusk]

Chaos MD with my fire got 30+sec

[stuck sphinx]

I guess md is still gatekeeping me

[ripe stag]

Blame the gacha gamers for this

[shadow holly]

think I just slack and take 5% this week

[ripe stag]

Male nerf is real
Be it games or irl

[stuck sphinx]

Is lamia better for hell machi

[ripe stag]

[shadow holly]

I guess maybe if dark could maaaaybe get around 30 seconds or smth I would do it

since hell tb came out to be 25s for me

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[shadow holly]

if 3s

I think

[stuck sphinx]

Need matrix for that cancer

[shadow holly]

otherwise can't oneshot fast enough to be better than like 15s

[stuck sphinx]

I don’t have enough weapon tix for wata qu

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1185498808499572766.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

Whel game

F2P no rights

[ashen edge]

https://youtu.be/lAPWTNx6kjg

[shadow holly]

what the fk he already did it

[ashen edge]

the cook

[still moat]

[ashen edge]

[still moat]

i fked up the last wave

[spiral merlin]

6m wz graaahhh

[still moat]

definitely coulve gone higher than 1.6mil

[dapper skiff]

Great job!

[mighty tusk]

Invest?

[shadow holly]

this might just make me go pull r2 lamia

[dapper skiff]

Going over amp buff was never been better anyway

[ashen edge]

2.0/2.3/3 222 101

ss pet

[mighty tusk]

[ashen edge]

the new cook in ss0

[mighty tusk]

R2 lamia

[ashen edge]

[rose yew]

14s hell moon eater kill with 1.5s brs rot

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[raw swift]

Does ploom have aoe

[shadow holly]

ploom aoe kinda ass
but it's there ig

[rose yew]

yellow and ult have huge aoe

[stuck sphinx]

Too bad most of her damage is red

[rose yew]

Red is mid and blue is kinda low

what if I reso'ed 6 ult on ploom

[stuck sphinx]

[rose yew]

new ploom set for affix leap 4 Heisen 4 cottie 6 atk 6 class

[zenith thorn]

he cookin

[stuck sphinx]

Replacing cw

[pine slate]

My fire was 30s, dark got 22s

[sly geyser]

yeah class on an attacker

[stuck sphinx]

[pine slate]

For chaos MD

[shadow holly]

yeah and fel sent nityanka's ref for chaos a bit above too
zamn
ok
guess I'm doing chaos hell with dark

[stuck sphinx]

See

Hypershit bad

[sly geyser]

brs will save the day

[rose yew]

m*le units get the short end of stick fr

[stuck sphinx]

2 inch

Fr

[pine slate]

How much nityanka got

[shadow holly]

wtf
did we get some fkin ugandan sniper who saved their run in the last 5 minutes or what

I got 5%

[shadow holly]

18

[pine slate]

Eu player moment

[shadow holly]

r2 fish, r2 Daren and Capri harmo though

[jaunty beacon]

🐟

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179775282446618645.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[rocky wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1124921194475438091.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=AINTNAURWAY

[shadow holly]

[pine slate]

Whel invest wtf

[visual topaz]

[visual topaz]

prolly Don

[static night]

Prolly u

[shadow holly]

wtf by a guildie

[dapper skiff]

My initial fdoj is slo

[visual topaz]

when Ange was doing weekly ppc screenshot for the guild ppc ranking roles

he had to wait for Don to finish his ppc 10 minutes before weekly reset

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

What rot did nityanka use tho, no dive in 2nd rot? @shadow holly

Link me the vid I don't wanna scroll

[visual topaz]

Nah I'm gasping because excal on Voodoo

[shadow holly]

#📨・meta-help message

[pine slate]

Bro 11x HP after first rot

And no qte on 2nd ult

Maybe it's qte timing diff

[livid lark]

@mighty tusk dark team redemption arc

[rose yew]

[shadow holly]

btw I thought yall didn't do that anymore cause that channel had it's last rankings post quite a while ago
or are the rankings just posted in big batches once in a while

[dapper skiff]

Black shark voodoo week

Lamia had to do shark
So no 5 dark voodoo

[muted valley]

guys whats the most valuable thing from the stagnant water shop?

ive got some of those exchange thingies

[dapper skiff]

Might be the same for this week ngl

@visual topaz lamia zaza on hell md

[shadow holly]

it's really just "get whatever you need"
the farming event is always the best place to get stuff instead of the normal resource stages

[harsh flame]

@shadow holly do i use my skulls on CW, Balter or do i save them for wata and qu?

[dapper skiff]

Hyperbrick

Even sss is not used on md

[shadow holly]

probably Balter since she reeeeally wants her SS
how many do you have

[harsh flame]

90 not enough :/

[hazy sandal]

[harsh flame]

but mby with ultimate missions i can catch her up in a week or 2

[dapper skiff]

[zenith thorn]

I don't even bothered using lamia on md
my dark isn't that invested yet

[dapper skiff]

Why it always takes too long for Kuro to drop something so simple like that in the early patches

[hazy sandal]

I come

[shadow holly]

yeaah gotta choose one and I would choose Balter since she wants her ss more and you have a complete team with her

[harsh flame]

thanks, will do

[rose yew]

light finally at 10mil score?

[deft apex]

Me too

[muted valley]

so uhh i decided to go for memories for CW,Diesel 4 and cottie is the best sets for her right?

[jaunty beacon]

Yes

[dapper skiff]

Yeah

[muted valley]

okai

does it matter which slot i buy?

[dapper skiff]

Bottom preferably

[abstract warren]

why do i have rosetta shards?

[dapper skiff]

Unless you're planning to get more cw rank in the future

[muted valley]

bottom means?4 5 6?

[dapper skiff]

Random shards from pulls

[dapper skiff]

Anything between those slot yes

[abstract warren]

is there any way i could get rosetta for free?

[muted valley]

okay

[muted valley]

got her from s selector

[abstract warren]

no s rank selectors sadly

[dapper skiff]

Beginner selector from novice mission

Then no Rosetta

[abstract warren]

i wasted it when started the game

[dapper skiff]

Cope

[zenith thorn]

reroll

[muted valley]

who did u pull innit

[dapper skiff]

Just forget about her and save up for future units from this point

[muted valley]

im glad i asked here for whom to pull

she does a lot of help

[abstract warren]

pale when i started the game , no regrets carried me through the early content

[zenith thorn]

ehat did you picked from the first selector

[muted valley]

rosetta

[zenith thorn]

not you

[abstract warren]

entropy mb

still one my favorites

[zenith thorn]

if you enjoyed it then sure

[rose yew]

[abstract warren]

any chance for a tank phys in the future?

[zenith thorn]

S rank hanying solacetune in may next year

march*

[pine slate]

Hanying

Until then, just use off element for phys

[abstract warren]

shes rosetta replacement right?

[zenith thorn]

yep

[pine slate]

Cuz no Rosetta means u can't do anything

[abstract warren]

ohhhhh

i don t have a phys team rn

i am future planning

[pine slate]

Tank is essential for phys

Cuz phys goes thru def too unlike elemental

So if no def shred, ur dmg is gone

[abstract warren]

would these 2 events help me guarantee both wata and qu?

and i am at ch 14 in story

[visual topaz]

Ye ange ded

[rose yew]

15 pulls from cursed waves
idk how many from rdf probably like 25-30?

[abstract warren]

i am at 30 pitty and the end of this version

[muted valley]

any idea whos gonna be the next banner after lamia?

[ripe stag]

BRS Collab next patch

• A rank Fire Attacker - Don't pull

Then after BRS is Watanabe: Epitaph

• S rank Fire Tank - must pull

[muted valley]

should i pull lami or wait

im one pull away

i have CW

[ripe stag]

You didn't pull lamia yet ,m

??

What are you waiting for bruh

[muted valley]

Nope im new

[ripe stag]

Doesn't matter
She's lightning

Lamia's dark

[muted valley]

ohh okay

id lamia a must have hero

[zenith thorn]

yes

[ripe stag]

Omniframe

Not "hero"

We aren't playing MLBB

[zenith thorn]

u get what he meant

[muted valley]

im not familiar with the terms

[ripe stag]

Yea it's fine

[digital moat]

Just get a copy of lamia

[ripe stag]

Just call them characters like I do

[muted valley]

there are multiple hero collector games you know

[deft shadow]

Hi

[ripe stag]

First of all
Based Suou Yuki pfp

[deft apex]

and the third one too, yes

[ripe stag]

Second

Hi

[onyx palm]

should I go straight to ultimate zone in pc?

[deft shadow]

how are u?

Wait, Sora of Yosuga no Sora?

[ripe stag]

Hai

[zenith thorn]

sure

[onyx palm]

ok

[ripe stag]

Yes sure if you have properly made teams

[onyx palm]

how do I get my skulls from last week?

[zenith thorn]

join ppc
it will be mailed

[deft shadow]

Kkkk

You speak japanese?

[ripe stag]

No

[onyx palm]

4 skulls away from S5 CW

[ripe stag]

S5

[deft shadow]

Ah ok

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

Do SS

[onyx palm]

I mean sure

[ripe stag]

How are you even using CW without SS

[onyx palm]

f2p and new players exist 😱

[ripe stag]

She can't even do anything without SS

[ripe stag]

I'm the first one you know

[onyx palm]

am I better off using Noctis? 🗿

[ripe stag]

Yes I'm F2P

[ripe stag]

No

Bruh

[onyx palm]

then don't say that

you're basically saying don't play until you get SS 🗿

[ripe stag]

It's just major damage difference

[ripe stag]

No
I'm saying
It's Copium

Never said it's not playable

[livid lark]

i do

[ripe stag]

Eggs ?

[livid lark]

wdym

[deft apex]

ek so polyglot

dalao

[livid lark]

my jp is better than my chinese

lol

[deft apex]

my jp is the same as my chinese

[livid lark]

tho i might have fallen off in recent times

[deft apex]

yea i just don't speak either of them

[stoic rapids]

@ashen edge lamia ss3 rota is finally comfy. thank you again for the vid. do you have a rota vid for lightning wz for sss feral ss3 cw? i think im doing it wrong

[ashen edge]

wtf sss feral

i dont have any but i can record if you want

[stoic rapids]

yeaa i really loved her gameplay and i got lucky with an early dupe so i went all the way

[raw swift]

I have lightning rotation

[kindred bobcat]

Tf is that pfp

[stoic rapids]

ahh pls show then. i saw multiple versions. starting with a feral swap into 3x1 and then cw and i saw it without too so im confused. im also not sure whats the best way to do the double ult on cw and feral

[ashen edge]

do you have keyword to search light wz on bili

[raw swift]

3s 雷队战区

[ashen edge]

ty

[ripe stag]

Based pfp

[raw swift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1246416933440589847/2024-06-01-18-41-07_1.mp4?ex=66e9603a&is=66e80eba&hm=ced69ec894b340c5d67fcc3802a2c6c206a23cf5220ea846a49de2049f08eea2&

[ripe stag]

My dark team is good

It's so good that I cannot even rotate

[raw swift]

@stoic rapids

[deft apex]

do you happen to have cradle ppc banner? cupcake~2

[final sky]

Rotation for lightning team is garnet, 21, alpha and repeat right?

[livid lark]

garnet 21 cw is only for the start

at least for me

then I do cw feral garnet

[ripe stag]

We're so dead

[raw swift]

don't have

[ripe stag]

I do garnet start > CW > feral > Garnet slam > CW > feral

[final sky]

Idk what the proper rotation is so i just do garnet 21 alpha and then just alpha and 21. But that doesnt do better than my lux garnet qte bot comp rn

I just not used to rotation for lightning

[ripe stag]

Your feral has sig ?

[stoic rapids]

this is confusing. why no feral ult at 1st rota and instead wasting time on garnet doing nothing

[final sky]

Yea

[sly geyser]

that's even better

[final sky]

Sig but no pet

[ripe stag]

You lose ult gauge after 1:30

[ripe stag]

Cub doesn't matter

[deft apex]

what about the cn words for onslaught ppc?

[ripe stag]

Sig is enough

[final sky]

Garnet dont got sig

[raw swift]

depends if my 21 ult will overkill wave, you can see I switch in 21 next round and ulted immediately

[ripe stag]

It's fine

[stoic rapids]

but you spend so much time on garnet this way. my garnet is only SS she wont be pulling too much weight

[sly geyser]

time to spam solo CW

[raw swift]

My garnet also ss

[ripe stag]

Imagine CW solo

[ashen edge]

you can see why he dont use 21 ult at that wave

[final sky]

That literally what i do rn with qte lux and garnet

[ashen edge]

after core salamander didnt die so jambu swap out to save ult for later wave

to prevent overkill

[stoic rapids]

was this current weather? does a 3ping automatically proc it? or you have to ping another of the same color after the 3ping to proc it

[sly geyser]

they did it just to make us cope more but since there's no 90s time limit anymore it's fine for me

[raw swift]

Forgot what is the weather

[final sky]

Does garnet need reso and hypertune for rotation or no

[raw swift]

Rotation didn't change

[pliant rose]

When does scire idol skin gacha ends?

[stoic rapids]

not sure if 1 3ping procs it in itself

[stoic rapids]

a week

[raw swift]

Idk

[final sky]

Read, it says there

[pliant rose]

I see tnx