#📨・meta-help
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let's see what zain's resos and cub rank is then
zain giga whel 
like imo the natural invest progression is low-mid SS -> high ss meaning ss3 with all r2/r3 etc, then sss
kinda stupid going sss while ur not even r3 or r2 at the very least
but ofc htis is a cw simp
i think its also one of the general chatters here on the server
my point is what if he just got
giga lucky with the character pulls
cause that's why zain has sss cw
zain got lucky with balter
sure, that's why he has, cuz luck 
sss cw he just wheled
i'm p sure he said he got sss cw in like 140 pulls total
that's why he has sss fish and balter too, cuz luck 
He has everyone sss

These games r coded in a way that u shouldnt be getting multiple sss units as a low spender/f2p
As if not every game is coded like that
idk if this is the place to ask but
im running 2p darwin, 4p turing on lee hyperreal SS3, and after ive done hold atk after switching, shooting once to get the bullet to orbs and done 2 3-pings im left with that much energy, but according to gray ravens and other vids im supposed to be topped and can activate super immediately? am i missing something or is that not the case?
also have signature wep
3x3 ping
yea cuz ur supposed to use 2pc cottie not darwin lmao 💀
ss3 you dont use cottie
oh
so its sss that enables darwin?
No
nvm i didnt say anything
Ss3 uses darwin but u still do 3x3 ping for extra energy
oh yea where ur full ult1 at
Ss3 and ss0 is same thing, ss3 just gives the extra dmg from darwin thats it
2x3 gives u full stacks but u have to do 1 more 3p
oh huh
that's beautiful
mathematical brick

🧱
Hello, I just reinstalled the game , last time I was online was 3 years ago, I reached lv 59?ish, is it better to make a new account or continue with the one I have?
If you haven't spend that much BC, then you should stay with your current one
I think you mean the premium currency right? I have like 50 xD
Didn't save anything
There's new stuff to get like new beginner rewards with an S-rank selector
premium currency is rc
I got 1 when I was claiming a lot, and I mean a lot of rewards,
hmm should I renew my MPA
no mpa is the most brick u can spend ur rc on 
u should spend rc on straight bc conversion instead
isnt misinfo in gameplay help not allowed
Thank s @median shell @stiff elm
misinfo to new ppl is one thing but ive seen u around
Unless if you have the time, it takes more effort to make a new account
what if im new 
imagine 
is there any other way to farm resources like overlock material more efficient way i feel like the amount of stamina i am spending is alot more for the amount of overclocking material i am receiving
just to be clear
are you farming them from resource stage or buying from event shop
resource stage
💀
event stage
don't use resource stage for anything p much, you can get all of it from event shop except for character shards
vector 
ah rip couple hundreds of stamina points

well at least couple hundreds is not that much
nah u can get character shards ||for a ranks||
only like 2 days worth
so event stages are the way to get more of them efficiently?
event shop for almost everything
always
lesson learned
when event shop is closed for patch transition you spend them on AE5
then once new patch drops you spend them on event node again
what is ae5?
last memory resource stage
ressource stage for harmony mem mat
you get the spinny beyblades there
ah i see
i think i will stop progressing story for now i am at 5-7 unlocked phantom pain cage btw idk if any more important stuff locked behind story tho
story gives you BC but you can do it at any time
yeah right now trying to save stamina to spend on character shards
and for event 6* memory shop
which character
don't overfarm char shards thou, cuz you won't have much serum left for other things then
focus on 1 char, max 2, not more
well i am getting no 21 and lotus shards
yeah doing 2 characters
dont get lotus
:free
why Lotus thou?
0.1 damage achieved

so pale fire better?
poor Lotus 
both bad
what resonances for empy in a team with wata & fire lucia? (will run her with wata & palefire/brs until lucia, but i'd rather do reso once and not have to swap later)
class
and for top any atk+15?
yes
k, thanks
hmmm
hey do you guys remember what I said about if you have a good angle on yellow orb you can see practically EVERYTHING
well do u have a ss
ofcourse I do, I always do the yellow orb towards my camera, this time I submitted it
veritas has a dress
and in that one event where you can jump
weirdos
and use a grapple, her ultimate has a good panty shot angle

smh you know you're curious too
she has those stockings tho im pretty sure those act like pants
or whatever the heck that female attire is called, it still covers it
pff you still get a good angle
weirdo
Does the 3rd expedition difficulty really give 17.5k mats? I saw only 5.3k on the boss fight. Where was the rest from
Ik they are all probably outdated, but who should be ok for story progress? I wanted to choose Rosetta but idk if she's still ok
Oof alrighty, thanks
can't wait for people to ask whats meta in that selector post hanying 
Surely they would update it at some point, right? RIGHT??
what is this chat even gonna recommend from the selector post hanying 😭
are we gonna default to rose still?
free stigma copers
you heard what I said, you can get a good panty shot during this animation
still not updated in CN?
update what?
The selector
huh
Not that I know of
it doesn't work like that, and it shall not work like that either
selectors dont update iirc
they don't update for a good reason
except that standard banner selection.. but that's different
The permanent banner already exists
If we had pantsu shots
Obviously not so far, but its the newbie reward, they gotta make it something worth getting
bp loses some value bc of that
Would it be 16+?
what?
Fair enough I guess
oh nvm, thought its shards from bp xd
they will just release new selector (you don't want to piss off people who used the old selector before it got updated)
that my point I'm trying to make ^
there are things you just don't do
they could update the shard choice in BP though eh
its being updated
ohh, when?
Poor Global Remembering 
ehh so long until empy shards
segs 
Until 27
thereis still brs
oh right brs
If you have like 17.5k BC by the end of this patch you're most likely safe
60 + 30 -60 wata patch + 30 wata patch, yeah
should be enough for qu
even without BRS patch you can pull for qu but like at the end of the event
i was lazy reading story ngl, I only paid attention to the stories after empyrea patch
so im reading the current ones
Oh wait nah even like 12.5k is enough if we assume 7.5k bc per patch
For some reason I think a lot of people are going to struggle
name a non-miserable pgr character
Pu lao
aside from pulao
Kamui
didnt kamui get steamrolled
He's fiiine
I genuinely think he not coming back
He died?
i dunno, I dont read anyone's story after empy patch
He's okay in global
so like I would read empy patch and every patch after that
cause story gets better by a big margin
Ahh he only had a little conflict with camu at the beginning
And technically in nanami patch he suffers alot but we won't count that
No nvm he suffers bc people keep stealing from his dorm 
Me putting all three Lucia frames in the same room
Yes but probably not the player's dorms
Do u headpat?
Cause babylonia will NOT let us invite Luna 
luna is such a sweet character fr
she wont level the facility, no wayyyy
Nah I don't actually play dorm 
ayla
having trauma has to be one of the requirements to become a frame or something lmao
Which Kamui didn't even do LMAO
also chrome
Not really
he actually still gets along with his dad which is kinda nice
What chapter are u on
even tho his dad is kinda a piece of crap but we dont talk about that
speaking of which, will strike hawk get another S frame after wanshi
its more like stuff from mail and bits and pieces here and there where we still hear about chromes dad
Manifesting Kamui
So you haven't done story I won't spoil anything more then
no im done story
So you didn't read 14 and 17?
and chromes chapter i dont remember much other than fighting the spider structure thing
is there something like a pull tracker with stats for pgr?
yes but it only shows recent 10
Only for last 10 pull
ehh, shame
He switches frames which is pretty painful
is it tho?
Yes it's literally mentioned in the story
Only specialised frames
Lotus didn't hurt when changing to dawn iirc
i mean idk if that was a trauma thing, him choosing to do it and all
well actually thats probably a bad way to put it
only thing that hurts her is shikikan seeing something more revealing 
Well even if not, 17 he definitely does
Lux
I pulled 7 sigs so far, haven't lost 80/20 yet and got a few earlies (half were within first 10 probably), curious how it compares to community xd
i mean like i dont remember much about his specialised frame other than he becomes less of a commandant and more reliant on mind beacons or smth
17 i dont remember much other than fighting for his life
I've only hit pity once but I did lose 80/20 twice with changyu on 3 and nanamech on 30
do you
Disgusting
I headpat everyday
||he died||


well 17 was kinda just screwed up in general ig 
In 18 technically if we count those then everyone suffered
but hes not particularly traumatized ig is what im tryna say
like theres gotta be some form of trauma in a post apocolyptic setting but not everyone has a traumatizing past
I have accidentally pulled hanying twice and I don't think I regret
how important is ss rank for liv after leap?
i'm trying to decide where to spend my vouchers to get vera or to ss liv...
which liv?
empyrea
I don't think her SS benefits from leap?
i heard people say empyrea is unusable before ss idk if leap changed anything much..
I mean meta wise, she's unusable without SSS 

think its less leap and more wata
Even more meta wise, every frame is unusable unless SSS+
empy isnt rlly that important after wata
if you're long-time battlepasser, I think you should have enough vouchers to sss her sooner or later
especially after the voucher income increase
it's luna patch next week on jp and i thought getting liv from selector for her team...
does she even do her full rotation there or just qte bot
she has a grand total of 3 seconds on field from what ive heard
with leaped empy apparently u just swap in, ult, leave
so is it even worth investing much into her at this point or s rank will be good enough..
every amp wants sss
s rank probably enough honestly if u can get someone better to ss
it really depends on voucher income
ok but f2p cant rlly afford sss unless they pulled and budgeted vouchers ahead of time
i got bp this month though don't think i will be getting it each month
have 17k vouchers and 20 vera shards so enough to get her..
20 vera shards is supposed to do what
how did you get 20 vera shards
rozen shards clueless~1
you're a few patches away from her replacement though
spend all my vouchers before on her before nanami released
but it's still like 7 months before that so vera probably still will be value enough
at S?
Wait what the hell is vera supposed to do
isn't vera just qte bot? is s rank still that important to her?
garnet
is she that much of an upgrade as qte bot over arclight though to be worth it?
well this is my current ranks situation so it's pretty tough to decide....
ayla would also probably benefit from ss a lot
Wait Pyroath and Nanaknight is another back to back s rank...
Oh right thank goodness
You’re never swapping to her bro
huh are you supposed to sit on qu whole time?
i mean unless u have wanshi tank and even then i think u just use qu and wanshi and ayla becomes qte bot
not sure tho since im just a glb player and all 
i swap to ayla when i run out of orbs on qu
you never swap to ayla starting on qu patch
you only swap between wanshi and qu ever
swapping to kaleido is massive dps loss
is it considering sigs? since i have 0 sigs yet
Bruh
Sigless qu 
i'm considering waiting for the 100% weap patch though i probably will try to get luna sig
Until Wanshi you still swap to Ayla
Whay memory good for dawn
heisen probably but why
Why do you think, buddy
No CW 
in what world will u use dawn tho 
I wont i only use changyu 🤧🤧
In a world with no Veritas or CW
I just like dawn cus shes pretty
id go off element at that point
so either way ss for ayla seems to be pointless then
so now it's choice empyrea vs alica i guess
Ayla is not a playable unit at S
hes in jp
Alright thankies guys
Is lingyang ur main in wuwa or is your love only towards changyu
btw speaking about luna, how good would she be at carrying other element warzones?
like using her in physical one with alice
She can't carry
i still don't really get how her converting thing is supposed to work
It's not too difficult to understand it literally just makes shred and buffs for single elements do the same for all elements
so it's basically only benefits the new void warzone?
Pretty much yeah
No dmg types are converted so units will still always deal the dmg type they did before
A notable exception is some zaza ice strat where you use luna and leap garnet in place of ayla and glory
But that's a special case because glory sucks and it's solo qu
we love zaza

sounds brainrot 
Is Alisa SS3 worth?
does the game always ask you to login?
I'm f2p and have 23k vouchers do I get kaleido ss3 or do I just save for SS garnet and/or wanshi?
Yeah exactly
occasionally,unless you have someone using your account
oh what patch do weapons become 100%?
none
I seem to get asked like every 4th login
wep banner wouldn't become 100% 
oh thats why, I play on both pc and mobile, no wonder it keeps signing me out
They don't become 100% but they become that after each offrate
that's so strange since wuwa's is 100%
Kinda like arrival banners
different business model
On Lucia patch
But characters are 50/50
Pick your poison 
there's no guaranteed or a failsafe
you can get 4 offrate in a row
it really just 80/20
Or 8 offrates
wtf they adjusted wep?
oh yeah i remember it kinda
Lucia patch adjusted
i think nnin mentioned that
but eh 4 offrates?
unless ur dazzal,who would get 3 offrste in a row 
Weapons have failsafe and arrival off-rates are limited to the characters on it
They both on same patch
same patch that have the 180 per pull banner 
Checked, lucia
Poor well 
@shadow holly the hatsune miku story is quite wholesome


my story?
Karen stupid coating story




nice out of context

maybe ur stupid 




get back in your cages minions

who's jinhsi 
guild expedition refreshing
yeah
we on holiday
oh it's wuwa char
get back in your cages
thats when we let out of the factory

what u mean
i'm letting you free once new round begins


What stage
hatsune miku
with how dedge the guild is idk if we gonna held on yearly uno tournament
yall got yearly uno tournament?
btw im continuing lulu
that's pretty cool
lulu still have like 5 days left you're good
doubt
I brought out everything in lul shop except for themed banner tickets 
why?
Superior brick energy
the risk of losing those tickets to event ending excites me
brick mentality
my guild doesn't even care if i did auto 
literally deadge at
wallahi im finished
and yet still top 100 


kurai slander
holy baloney
Lemme in 
Lemme join
it was never meant to be yearly
yeah
just a generous act from members
jsut random giveaway held

i might do that the day after i secure my business tbh
members is iza?

sponsored by iza and shah last time
you have a weird obsession with whales
i thought shah said hes f2p
the one before i guess it was seraph and iza
i love whels
Me too
Ponzu is attracted by beeeeg beeg cetaceans
F2p but wants others to be whel 


even people who don't spend much on pgr did giveaways


guild discord is kinda dedge atm for the pgr side
Rc > 1 = 🐳
What business 
idk for the others
Rc > 1 = 🐳
So why u claim F2p
they meant 1 rc per second 
that's that kind of business i'm talking about
So hemp...?
Did they move to other games or simply retire?
both
ik some still play hsr gi ww
some simply stopped with mobage/gacha in general
but still plays pc games
why is Zoul still here

just for you bbg
u don't
Nya! 
ye
or game becomes boring
when they see i frames fiesta, bablool becoming easier than norman and ripoff game as event gamemodes they simply quit 
I see
Just generally boring
reminds me
i capped on lulu coins
because i was away for 40hours
coins after 300300 vanished
Is there a total cap?
I really hope they convert to cogs
But I didn't redeem my spinner tickets and I missed so many cogs
I can't let that happen on the offchance
restaurant at level 7 has 300000 unclaimed coins cap
But total coin owned is limitless?
prolly
but mathematically speaking assuming perfect input and stuff like that i'd say we're still capped at sub 5mil coins for the duration of the event
total earned coin might be >5M coins
but you're def spending around ~1M coins upgradings restaurants chibis buffs etc
4 mil coin from lulu if they convert to cogs is still insane
enough to leap 1 unit


P sure it gives nothing

Gamemode alrdy has a lot of trade vouchers and tickets alrdy
Some ppl don't even have cow because they don't enter dorm
some people refuse to enter dorm 
@shadow holly can you do coop now?

im that person
Bricked
Bricked
So many bricks being revealed
But I cannot understand why ppl don't like dorm
Dorm is so cute
because it isn't beating the sht out of something
Some ppl did enter dorm but don't pat m*les chibis
Croftly on europe server id: 15626660
yea that's cringe af
U give pats
And put them to bed

i enter dorm to reset commissions and then go back to the main menu kekw
i dont even pat them anymore
Fk monster

Reported for slavery
in my defence the only rare occurrence where i did enter dorm
i only pat selena
I want the liv plushie in chibi form
only selena deserve patting
Fk bstrds

I sent a friend request
@visual topaz are u reading this sht
ponzu come fill in the lobby for the photo event
I'm in bed

is trs piloting for you now
cursed waves? 
Yh
thanks for your help, much appreciated

Did u use my acc?
nah we got a random guy joun

don't have access to my pc rn
I see
for the check event : who should i get? ||and between these 2 whos the better one crimson weave or bianca stig||
Cw solos

thanks.
Every time i see this question my soul hurts whenever i have to answer CW
im sorry i guess
when uncle becomes available on standard people will stop recommending cw
I have to wait 2 patches... after waiting 2 patches
i mean
when lamia becomes available on standard they will already stop recommending cw
probably even starting from next patch the recommendation will be just to wait til wata patch and get lamia
lol fair
the time of actually good units has come
hah
cringeson weeb cant stand a chance
Imo cw is still a better pick over lamia since budget dark is more functional than budget lightning
counterpoint, cw is cringe and budget dark is still not gonna do anything
if people are starting this late i dont think theyll even have the resources to build astral n stuff in case they get cw
Anyway i think if you've already waited for wata patch to get lamia the real answer is you might as well keep waiting a bit longer for someone even better than either
cw op
Purple dragon 
Might as well solo cw
You sound sus lil bro


If you start your account now good luck on the 999 years journey to unbrick it
Yeah lamia is just a bit more demanding
But if someone started on this patch and can get both then it's worth imo
Balter is amazing but phys is kinda copium without properly built rose and alisa ig
Lamia solo doesnt beat cw
Honestly the thing about cw is she can carry copium early game
Exactly
yeah its usually like a year to get an account with functional teams of all elements
in this time period its quite nice because we get key units for dark, fire, ice and void, a base for phys team for free and can get cw from standard
so people can have all elements in like
just several months
although at this point newbies will have to work really hard to get lamia
Tbh if any new player coming around at this time it’s bcz of cw or lamia 
He'd refuse to accept it even if it's true
True
Lmao prolly
Are u the wuwa cc?
Also lightning doesn't require SSS to have shred on its A tank
Wuwa cc 
And lux only needs SS
Or just same name coincidentally
So light is just more accessible in every way

Probably
I see
I wonder what it'll be like for new players who join in the gen 2.5 tank era
Bricked
Ig we'll just be recommending the tanks over the attackers?
But they don't usually carry solo right?
They can solo, albeit being copium
Well, before balter it was kinda the same
Kinda yeah lol
Nanamech was one of the strongest units somehow lmao
New amp when
And ofc garnet

Praying Lilith
I’m glad I didn’t exist in this era
Same ong

I'm not
Selena is so clearly outdated
It's bc fire was Pulse+Ember/SSS Roland
Good old day
Are we just ignoring empyrea? 😭😭
When kuro isnt anti f2p
Empyrea was utterly carrying it so hard and so anything would suffice to take the burden off her

You want to tell ppl who worked for months to get her to sss that need to replace her?
Ember was long gone by then
True
She's still ass even at SSS+ lol
Me included yes
Even at SSS she has weird flaws
No damage
Well let her be ass I don’t want to grind shards again
Dark radiation stuck to her sig mems, poor dmg, inconsistent rots without cottie, her SS passive ruins guin
Yea I feel like Lilith HAS to be the replacement Capriccio is free unit and way too old
Problem with SSS sig selena is she barely functions like other amps at SS0
Plus it'll be sm1 to hold Umbra affix for CW
She is Balter replacement
Source: trust me bro
Minus the bigger amp buff
unable to hold 4 guin as an amp 
U right. Goth girl replaces goth girl
let lilith be ice attacker pls
God forbid
Leave qu alone omg
let me cope further with capri 
Imagine we are praying for new amp of SOME sort and then Lilith ends up being some goofy crap like void tank
Thats mean they have to kick cow too
void tank sounds nice 
cow can at least do dmg tho
selena... can't
Imagine they bring new class and Lilith is the first one
I mean tbh selena problems might be solved with leap not a replacement 
nah if they leap her it will be an affix add on
Yeah thats her redeeming value but cant trigger 4 guin. Still cringe
not a true leap like what we had before

and capri will still be garbo
forever garbage
capri was whel trap
i just wouldnt expect leaps for already free units
They outright buffed her 4 times and she still sucks, they leaped Scire insetad of her for a reason
If they wanted to leap her they would've done it loooong ago
I think they wanted to keep her a cash cow that requires insane investment to be usable
one sec lemme look for it
And they specifically leaped Scire instead, Cap is done for
Soon
Yep
Void luna leap next
But tbh tho if they were willing to replace Hyperreal before Garnet Empyrea and Cap then who knows what will happen next
Kamui void tank when
Finally hyperreal can rest
Exactly you can never predict kuro
Rare puple role spotted
I think out of every amp Selena is objectively the worst so she'd be the first to be replaced
They arent gonna leap Cap tho
They only delayed it for so long to avoid angering people who invested in her
For sure, we just don't know if it'll be Lilith or secret character or no one at all
They already skipped capri and kaleido
Let us cap for cap
True
Free units no rights
For all we know lilith could just end up being an A rank or something imagine LMAO
wanshi will be together in that group lmao
Nah that would be vile
Literally lmaooo
Nah you know what? It’s time for vera to come back to dark team
Void luna leap already leaked

I was thinking the same
Vera dark amp saves dark team
No new Noctis S
And outdps lamia
i would make mention of smth i saw regarding a void tank but i might get bonked 
They replaced her now so they can bring her back to dark team trust
I feel like his next frame would be fire
Makes sense actually
void alpha + Roland
Vera is INSANELY popular they'll bring her back in some form
I can’t imagine male amp especially Noctis
I was thinking what if they replace cw and make a void alpha frame
Who said he had to be amp 
they just have to make a more motivated alpha unit 
So they probably don't wanna replace her just yet
We are discussing dark amp maybe?
kuro combat has no bounds
no she has life
she will be the dark affix attacker
we're getting closer to aerial combat seeing oath
I think chrome would make a lot of sense as amp tbh
any unit that gets affix gets life for another year or so i think
YEEEES NEW CHROME PLZZZ
Yeah I mean as lightning dps
Or sub dps now LMAO
Common CW L
technically cw is now qte bot
Eh we'll see how meta evolves
it's already being tested on cn tho
Early lamia everyone thought she'd be the perfect swap character
Pass
i wasn't capping
Yeah ik what you mean but things change
Remember when everyone was saying Alpha is objectively better solo?
And now everyone is taking it back
still waiting for kamui new frame
wasn't that just because of that blanc vid
Nope
and she is
if you have human rights team
as good as lamia is she cant fix bad investment on the rest of the team
It was a genuine meta statement
True
Roland need one too
I think dark team suffers simply because of the tank and amp slots being weird asf
Lamia is perfect as is it's the other units that have funny minimum requirements and even then they hit like paper
Same
Scire has problems but is ok, Cap is just doodoo
Yeah leap made her not copium kinda
Capri is just
Leaped Rozen outperforms Lamia completely in terms of Core Passive (Vera's new Core Passive is as strong as SS Lamia’s Core Passive, but unlike Lamia with her 4-5 Core attacks, Leaped Vera can do 7-8 Core attacks. Also Vera's new Core Passive has auto dodge) but her new 2 ult still does less damage than Lamia’s ult for obvious reasons.
Yeah, Rozen is no longer a QTE slave, she's extremely good burster who can be on par with Lamia now lol.
What is funny how much of investment you need for them to actually be used
Meta dark team went from being the cheapest team to the most expensive in the span of <5 months
Hard locked to sig mem, has weird interactions with mems that supports commonly use, doesn't do enough dmg
Leaped Rozen outperforms Lamia completely in terms of Core Passive (Vera's new Core Passive is as strong as SS Lamia’s Core Passive, but unlike Lamia with her 4-5 Core attacks, Leaped Vera can do 7-8 Core attacks. Also Vera's new Core Passive has auto dodge) but her new 2 ult still does less damage than Lamia’s ult for obvious reasons.
Yeah, Rozen is no longer a QTE slave, she's extremely good burster who can be on par with Lamia now lol.
Literally
Thx saurok
Yup
omg lmao
I genuinely wish this was unironically true

Schizolena is cool asf but wow she's holding dark team DOWN
The sad part is that she doesn't even need some complete kit rework to be good
Also daren is just built like sht her rotation is unplayable before leap unless you have SS3 like wtf? 😭
Literally if Dark Radiation was just added into her QTE clause we would all be frolicing in the hills happy
experimentation
Bruh even ss3 is garbage
Not leap making SS3 even bigger boost
capri and scire were the first of their kind
And change her SS passive or something
True
Whel detected
Oh that too
Both of them NEED TO DIE

WAIT FRICK I STILL HAVE TO MALD MADOREA
If you want the whel talk then I can confidently say even sss is trash
Byeeeee
It's just weird how they made a mid-gen 2 era character that fails to outdps freaking tenebrion of all people
Unless you have paid investment
erm what the flip
coughnanamechcough
It's cuz free unit
Im not a whel so no clue


She does outdps every other fire character that was out aside from empyrea
She's bad but she did what she needed to do and even worked at base S sigless
And the higher your investment with daren the faster you will lose sanity bcz of orb rng
look its fun and all but no ones dealing less damage than teneb stop capping
her shred was tied to her sig memo
I'm talking daren lol
oh not capri
Yeah but so is garnet and look how long she lasted
The probably didn't know how detrimental the sig mem shred thing would be
They thought it was just another way to encourage using her on field
Garnet does insane damage (for her era) and her flag shred could be applied to several wz waves tho is the difference
She does outdps but look how much time it takes
tbf at 3s3 you have almost no orb rng in war zone
since you get 3x3 for free from the 3s3 passive from the teammate ults
and getting another 3ping from swap in orbs + dlt is like
pretty much guaranteed
And it comes at the expense of mems that teneb/21 can use to apply extra shred
takes what
she outdps teneb at base
youre smoking some high grade zaza if you think teneb does any damage
Karen defender
Yeah barely lol only saving grace is having timestop on ult
In wz yea but imagine you were using it in ppc before lamia
her qte is much better
her shred is much better
I didn't say she's overall worse
Just saying how they managed to fumble her kit where she's dysfunctional until high invest lol
oh yeah believe me i know the pain
although mine is only ss3
but thats as bad as it gets
malding for 4x3 at S+ is the same since an additional 3ping is guaranteed already
3s3 whel behaviour

Even with S daren solo Luna was the wave meanwhile terb/21 could afford to swap a little bit to cover luna downtime if you had Selena for example
Daren can't really do that properly without leap
You know how many times I was about delete the game bcz of 222 pings on her 
Terb swap mb if u had SS
But that's only for the first wave ur not going back to him
bro ur not swapping

his ult is frozen if hes swapped off
That was the meta back then lmaoooo
so thats not swapping
ur just ulting at the start and never fielding him again
That's genuinely how people in cn played for a while
Yea so no reason to swap afterwards
Must be nice
Mine stayed at S 5* LMAOOOO
Dark wz was torture
Solo Luna S 5* peak gameplay
if people in cn played like that it was facilitated by a good capri
and in that case you would swap regardless of who your tank is
Fair point
I think the problem with teneb is his better numbers were completely offset by utter lack of aoe and bad qte
Same
Back then you could at the very least rectify swapping to SS DLT Cap bc Laurel solo was utter cancer especially at extreme low invest
But now w Lamia, Capri is just a massive anchor chain
21 qte is a bit better than both but teneb's is straight up dysfunctional against waves that have 3+ enemies
3.81s QTE that splits mobs 💀
Tbh since my lamia is sigless I sometimes dabble with switching between her and capri
Similar results if not better
2 lamia rots, Capri, 21 fills the remaining 2 seconds, switch back to lamia
LMAO yeah
Only saving grace is better bathlon proc until qu patch
Even this is false, dunno where this rumor came form cuz ur def not the first to say this
And once again only good against 1-2 enemies
They have same amount of QTE hits
So same benefit from Bath 
Lamia had insane potential to be the hottest QTE bot for dark team. But Kuro fumbled super hard by making her JP QTE voiceline completely unacceptable. Almost as unacceptable as Alisa Echo's eyebrows.
No I mean compared to 21
Daren procs bathlon just as well ye
Yea
Terb and XXI have same amount of QTE hits
Wait what
Are you serious lmao 💀😭
No way
Beat me to it lol
Wow
isn't 21's shred area wide as well?
Never realized 21 qte was even a miltihit
yeah she has a rly nice qte
Look at glory
Gathers mobs too
It's weaker than SS ult teneb but can cover multiple waves if timed well and yes bigger with gather lol
Better in every way
plus her co bot keeps up the tank class passive
LOOK AT HIM 
nuh uh
Hanying has similar qte?
hanying's is map wide didn't you know
I never thought about it but how good are the new tank qtes?
Hanying is map wide shred refreshing every second iirc
Does it gather too?
Because sometimes balter just gathers most enemies but forgets one 💀
uncle's isn't as big but the bombardments cover a wide area
balter has plenty of gather through blue/cub/sword form big slash/swordwaves already
and hanying has good gather in kit with her moves too i think
The new capri
Honestly I don't even have lee so empy will be the sub dps and tbh she doesn't need huge coverage on tank qte but we take it
At least it's faster than mech qte I hope

Yeah balter has good gather but it's not 100% consistent minus the slash she does before rising upward
glacio dmg increase at sss3
Jk sss is copeable
At least for my SS0 balter lmao

Where's that pic of glory qte depiction
sss+ or unplayable
SS3 spams waves and those have gather already iirc


what ur even asking?











