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shadow holly
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for sss thats rly bad

carmine reef
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let's see what zain's resos and cub rank is then

normal sierra
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zain giga whel EvilLiv

shadow holly
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like imo the natural invest progression is low-mid SS -> high ss meaning ss3 with all r2/r3 etc, then sss
kinda stupid going sss while ur not even r3 or r2 at the very least

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but ofc htis is a cw simp

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i think its also one of the general chatters here on the server

carmine reef
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my point is what if he just got

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giga lucky with the character pulls

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cause that's why zain has sss cw

shadow holly
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zain got lucky with balter

normal sierra
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sure, that's why he has, cuz luck sauce

shadow holly
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sss cw he just wheled

carmine reef
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i'm p sure he said he got sss cw in like 140 pulls total

normal sierra
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that's why he has sss fish and balter too, cuz luck sauce

pine slate
carmine reef
pine slate
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These games r coded in a way that u shouldnt be getting multiple sss units as a low spender/f2p

shut rain
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As if not every game is coded like that

waxen portal
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idk if this is the place to ask but
im running 2p darwin, 4p turing on lee hyperreal SS3, and after ive done hold atk after switching, shooting once to get the bullet to orbs and done 2 3-pings im left with that much energy, but according to gray ravens and other vids im supposed to be topped and can activate super immediately? am i missing something or is that not the case?
also have signature wep

inland tree
summer topaz
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ss3 you dont use cottie

inland tree
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oh

waxen portal
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so its sss that enables darwin?

pine slate
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No

inland tree
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nvm i didnt say anything

pine slate
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Ss3 uses darwin but u still do 3x3 ping for extra energy

inland tree
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oh yea where ur full ult1 at

pine slate
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Ss3 and ss0 is same thing, ss3 just gives the extra dmg from darwin thats it

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2x3 gives u full stacks but u have to do 1 more 3p

inland tree
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oh huh

waxen portal
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wierd but ok i thought i was doing something wrong

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ty for help Okay

shadow holly
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yeah only at 3s u can ult 2 after 2x3

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fire so brick

visual topaz
shadow holly
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that's beautiful

deft apex
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mathematical brick

woven sable
median shell
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🧱

sly totem
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Hello, I just reinstalled the game , last time I was online was 3 years ago, I reached lv 59?ish, is it better to make a new account or continue with the one I have?

median shell
sly totem
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Didn't save anything

median shell
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There's new stuff to get like new beginner rewards with an S-rank selector

stiff elm
sly totem
stiff elm
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hmm should I renew my MPA

inland tree
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u should spend rc on straight bc conversion instead

stiff elm
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isnt misinfo in gameplay help not allowed

sly totem
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Thank s @median shell @stiff elm

inland tree
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misinfo to new ppl is one thing but ive seen u around

median shell
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Unless if you have the time, it takes more effort to make a new account

stiff elm
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what if im new AlphaLucia

inland tree
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imagine lulw

stiff elm
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anyways its not like im using my RC anywhere else

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so

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monthly pass it is ig

waxen vine
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is there any other way to farm resources like overlock material more efficient way i feel like the amount of stamina i am spending is alot more for the amount of overclocking material i am receiving

carmine reef
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just to be clear

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are you farming them from resource stage or buying from event shop

carmine reef
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💀

carmine reef
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don't use resource stage for anything p much, you can get all of it from event shop except for character shards

sand laurel
waxen vine
visual topaz
carmine reef
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well at least couple hundreds is not that much

inland tree
carmine reef
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only like 2 days worth

waxen vine
carmine reef
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event shop for almost everything

visual topaz
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always

waxen vine
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lesson learned

visual topaz
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when event shop is closed for patch transition you spend them on AE5

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then once new patch drops you spend them on event node again

waxen vine
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what is ae5?

normal sierra
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last memory resource stage

visual topaz
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ressource stage for harmony mem mat

normal sierra
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you get the spinny beyblades there

visual topaz
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ye

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1200 pet 2P

waxen vine
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ah i see

visual topaz
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setting that aside

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you can spend them on clearing story

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or stronghold

waxen vine
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i think i will stop progressing story for now i am at 5-7 unlocked phantom pain cage btw idk if any more important stuff locked behind story tho

frozen creek
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Need rainbow card

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Need rights

woven sable
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story gives you BC but you can do it at any time

waxen vine
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and for event 6* memory shop

woven sable
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which character

normal sierra
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don't overfarm char shards thou, cuz you won't have much serum left for other things then

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focus on 1 char, max 2, not more

waxen vine
waxen vine
woven sable
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dont get lotus

frozen creek
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:free

normal sierra
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why Lotus thou?

frozen creek
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Lotus needs sss+ to do more than 0 damage

woven sable
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0.1 damage achieved

frozen creek
waxen vine
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so pale fire better?

normal sierra
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poor Lotus Luciasad

woven sable
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both bad

sturdy nimbus
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what resonances for empy in a team with wata & fire lucia? (will run her with wata & palefire/brs until lucia, but i'd rather do reso once and not have to swap later)

carmine reef
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class

sturdy nimbus
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and for top any atk+15?

carmine reef
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yes

sturdy nimbus
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k, thanks

stiff elm
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hey do you guys remember what I said about if you have a good angle on yellow orb you can see practically EVERYTHING

inland tree
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well do u have a ss

stiff elm
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ofcourse I do, I always do the yellow orb towards my camera, this time I submitted it

inland tree
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...nice

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feel like only the skin does that tho cuz normal bianca wears actual pants

stiff elm
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and in that one event where you can jump

river nymph
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weirdos

stiff elm
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and use a grapple, her ultimate has a good panty shot angle

river nymph
stiff elm
inland tree
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she has those stockings tho im pretty sure those act like pants

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or whatever the heck that female attire is called, it still covers it

stiff elm
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pff you still get a good angle

river nymph
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weirdo

ionic hatch
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Does the 3rd expedition difficulty really give 17.5k mats? I saw only 5.3k on the boss fight. Where was the rest from

hard sigil
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Ik they are all probably outdated, but who should be ok for story progress? I wanted to choose Rosetta but idk if she's still ok

slender aurora
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rosetta is the only relavent choice in that selector atp

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so youre in luck

hard sigil
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Oof alrighty, thanks

sand laurel
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can't wait for people to ask whats meta in that selector post hanying lulw

ionic hatch
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Surely they would update it at some point, right? RIGHT??

slender aurora
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are we gonna default to rose still?

glass bay
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If they missed hanying

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They still have to get rose

sand laurel
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free stigma copers

stiff elm
sturdy nimbus
sand laurel
ionic hatch
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The selector

sand laurel
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huh

ionic hatch
sand laurel
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it doesn't work like that, and it shall not work like that either

stiff elm
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selectors dont update iirc

sand laurel
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they don't update for a good reason

stiff elm
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except that standard banner selection.. but that's different

stray siren
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The permanent banner already exists

glass bay
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If we had pantsu shots

ionic hatch
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Obviously not so far, but its the newbie reward, they gotta make it something worth getting

sturdy nimbus
glass bay
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Would it be 16+?

sand laurel
ionic hatch
sturdy nimbus
sand laurel
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they will just release new selector (you don't want to piss off people who used the old selector before it got updated)

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that my point I'm trying to make ^

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there are things you just don't do

sturdy nimbus
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they could update the shard choice in BP though eh

sand laurel
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its being updated

sturdy nimbus
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ohh, when?

sand laurel
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check pinned messages in this channel

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there's a graphic for that

sturdy nimbus
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oh yea

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actually i've even seen it, just forgot completely lmao

sand laurel
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Poor Global Remembering Luciasad

sturdy nimbus
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ehh so long until empy shards

sand laurel
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segs EvilLiv

raw swift
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Is 40 pulls enough rn

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For the qu and watatabe

stiff elm
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...

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wait probably? how much time we have left with lamia patch

raw swift
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Until 27

stiff elm
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1250 * 2

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2500, 60 pulls uhhh nope

sturdy nimbus
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thereis still brs

stiff elm
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oh right brs

spiral merlin
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If you have like 17.5k BC by the end of this patch you're most likely safe

stiff elm
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60 + 30 -60 wata patch + 30 wata patch, yeah

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should be enough for qu

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even without BRS patch you can pull for qu but like at the end of the event

raw swift
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I should finish my stories

stiff elm
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i was lazy reading story ngl, I only paid attention to the stories after empyrea patch

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so im reading the current ones

spiral merlin
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For some reason I think a lot of people are going to struggle

stiff elm
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name a non-miserable pgr character

raw swift
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Pu lao

stiff elm
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aside from pulao

raw swift
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Kamui

stiff elm
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didnt kamui get steamrolled

raw swift
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He's fiiine

stiff elm
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I genuinely think he not coming back

raw swift
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He died?

stiff elm
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i dunno, I dont read anyone's story after empy patch

raw swift
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He's okay in global

stiff elm
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so like I would read empy patch and every patch after that

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cause story gets better by a big margin

raw swift
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Ahh he only had a little conflict with camu at the beginning

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And technically in nanami patch he suffers alot but we won't count that

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No nvm he suffers bc people keep stealing from his dorm KamuiSad

glass bay
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RIP kamui

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Are dorms canon?

spiral merlin
raw swift
glass bay
raw swift
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Cause babylonia will NOT let us invite Luna LunaCry

stiff elm
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she wont level the facility, no wayyyy

raw swift
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Only to us and her sisters

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Just give 10 nightlight every day

spiral merlin
inland tree
raw swift
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A little

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No alot actually

stiff elm
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having trauma has to be one of the requirements to become a frame or something lmao

raw swift
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Which Kamui didn't even do LMAO

inland tree
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also chrome

raw swift
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Not really

inland tree
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he actually still gets along with his dad which is kinda nice

raw swift
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What chapter are u on

inland tree
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even tho his dad is kinda a piece of crap but we dont talk about that

stiff elm
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speaking of which, will strike hawk get another S frame after wanshi

inland tree
raw swift
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Manifesting Kamui

raw swift
inland tree
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no im done story

raw swift
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So you didn't read 14 and 17?

inland tree
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which were those again

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oh nvm those i thought 17 was mainly liv

raw swift
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Chrome's chapter then Surviving Lucem

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17 was like nothing about Liv until the end 😭

inland tree
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and chromes chapter i dont remember much other than fighting the spider structure thing

sturdy nimbus
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is there something like a pull tracker with stats for pgr?

stiff elm
raw swift
sturdy nimbus
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ehh, shame

raw swift
inland tree
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is it tho?

raw swift
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Yes it's literally mentioned in the story

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Only specialised frames

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Lotus didn't hurt when changing to dawn iirc

inland tree
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i mean idk if that was a trauma thing, him choosing to do it and all

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well actually thats probably a bad way to put it

sand laurel
raw swift
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Well even if not, 17 he definitely does

sturdy nimbus
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I pulled 7 sigs so far, haven't lost 80/20 yet and got a few earlies (half were within first 10 probably), curious how it compares to community xd

inland tree
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i mean like i dont remember much about his specialised frame other than he becomes less of a commandant and more reliant on mind beacons or smth

inland tree
raw swift
visual topaz
glass bay
visual topaz
glass bay
inland tree
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well 17 was kinda just screwed up in general ig Luciasad

raw swift
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In 18 technically if we count those then everyone suffered

inland tree
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but hes not particularly traumatized ig is what im tryna say

raw swift
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Yeah cause chrome is an absolute goat

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He never backed down

inland tree
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like theres gotta be some form of trauma in a post apocolyptic setting but not everyone has a traumatizing past

hard sigil
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I have accidentally pulled hanying twice and I don't think I regret

wispy robin
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how important is ss rank for liv after leap?
i'm trying to decide where to spend my vouchers to get vera or to ss liv...

zinc jungle
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which liv?

wispy robin
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empyrea

zinc jungle
wispy robin
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i heard people say empyrea is unusable before ss idk if leap changed anything much..

zinc jungle
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I mean meta wise, she's unusable without SSS EvilLiv

river nymph
inland tree
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sry mah bad

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i had my hand on my phone and my phone did smth dumb

inland tree
thorn creek
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Even more meta wise, every frame is unusable unless SSS+

inland tree
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empy isnt rlly that important after wata

zinc jungle
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if you're long-time battlepasser, I think you should have enough vouchers to sss her sooner or later

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especially after the voucher income increase

wispy robin
inland tree
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she has a grand total of 3 seconds on field from what ive heard

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with leaped empy apparently u just swap in, ult, leave

wispy robin
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so is it even worth investing much into her at this point or s rank will be good enough..

river nymph
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every amp wants sss

inland tree
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s rank probably enough honestly if u can get someone better to ss

zinc jungle
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it really depends on voucher income

inland tree
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ok but f2p cant rlly afford sss unless they pulled and budgeted vouchers ahead of time

zinc jungle
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pure f2p might want to skip her

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just embrace battlepass

wispy robin
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i got bp this month though don't think i will be getting it each month

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have 17k vouchers and 20 vera shards so enough to get her..

raw swift
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20 vera shards is supposed to do what

river nymph
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how did you get 20 vera shards

deft apex
sturdy nimbus
wispy robin
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spend all my vouchers before on her before nanami released
but it's still like 7 months before that so vera probably still will be value enough

sturdy nimbus
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at S?

raw swift
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Wait what the hell is vera supposed to do

wispy robin
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isn't vera just qte bot? is s rank still that important to her?

raw swift
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Rozen?

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Oh garnet

sturdy nimbus
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garnet

raw swift
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Uhh s rank should be fine tbh

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SS benefits if you have her onfield

sturdy nimbus
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is she that much of an upgrade as qte bot over arclight though to be worth it?

wispy robin
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well this is my current ranks situation so it's pretty tough to decide....

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ayla would also probably benefit from ss a lot

raw swift
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Wait Pyroath and Nanaknight is another back to back s rank...

river nymph
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bro forgot yata

raw swift
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Oh right thank goodness

stuck sphinx
wispy robin
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huh are you supposed to sit on qu whole time?

inland tree
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i mean unless u have wanshi tank and even then i think u just use qu and wanshi and ayla becomes qte bot

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not sure tho since im just a glb player and all LivEh

wispy robin
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i swap to ayla when i run out of orbs on qu

feral pollen
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you never swap to ayla starting on qu patch

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you only swap between wanshi and qu ever

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swapping to kaleido is massive dps loss

wispy robin
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is it considering sigs? since i have 0 sigs yet

lethal sun
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Bruh

spiral merlin
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Sigless qu LivNervous

wispy robin
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i'm considering waiting for the 100% weap patch though i probably will try to get luna sig

raw swift
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Until Wanshi you still swap to Ayla

drifting plaza
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Whay memory good for dawn

inland tree
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heisen probably but why

drifting plaza
raw swift
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No CW LuciaSob

inland tree
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in what world will u use dawn tho AylaThink

drifting plaza
raw swift
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In a world with no Veritas or CW

drifting plaza
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I just like dawn cus shes pretty

inland tree
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id go off element at that point

wispy robin
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so either way ss for ayla seems to be pointless then
so now it's choice empyrea vs alica i guess

raw swift
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Ayla is not a playable unit at S

inland tree
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hes in jp

drifting plaza
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Alright thankies guys

raw swift
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Is lingyang ur main in wuwa or is your love only towards changyu

wispy robin
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btw speaking about luna, how good would she be at carrying other element warzones?
like using her in physical one with alice

feral pollen
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luna doesn't even convert phys buffs to hers element

wispy robin
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i still don't really get how her converting thing is supposed to work

spiral merlin
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It's not too difficult to understand it literally just makes shred and buffs for single elements do the same for all elements

wispy robin
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so it's basically only benefits the new void warzone?

spiral merlin
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Pretty much yeah

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No dmg types are converted so units will still always deal the dmg type they did before

spiral merlin
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But that's a special case because glory sucks and it's solo qu

carmine reef
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we love zaza

river nymph
feral pollen
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sounds brainrot RavenSleep

buoyant hornet
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Is Alisa SS3 worth?

carmine reef
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no

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sss or stay at ss0. her ss3 is pretty dog

mint burrow
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does the game always ask you to login?

buoyant hornet
carmine reef
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personally would save

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kaleido ss3 is really good but qu is in a couple months so

buoyant hornet
zenith thorn
onyx palm
zenith thorn
onyx palm
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I seem to get asked like every 4th login

zenith thorn
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wep banner wouldn't become 100% EvilLiv

mint burrow
buoyant hornet
onyx palm
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that's so strange since wuwa's is 100%

buoyant hornet
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Kinda like arrival banners

zenith thorn
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different business model

buoyant hornet
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On Lucia patch

deft apex
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Pick your poison EvilLiv

zenith thorn
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you can get 4 offrate in a row

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it really just 80/20

deft apex
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Nah I think he's right

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But only after wanshi

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Or Lucia, cant remember

thorn creek
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Or 8 offrates

zenith thorn
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wtf they adjusted wep?

deft apex
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Yea

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Arrival too

zenith thorn
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oh yeah i remember it kinda

thorn creek
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Lucia patch adjusted

zenith thorn
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i think nnin mentioned that

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but eh 4 offrates?

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unless ur dazzal,who would get 3 offrste in a row EvilLiv

deft apex
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Weapons have failsafe and arrival off-rates are limited to the characters on it

zenith thorn
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that's wanshi iirc

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so on wanshi patch then

deft apex
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They both on same patch

zenith thorn
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same patch that have the 180 per pull banner EvilLiv

deft apex
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Checked, lucia

zenith thorn
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ohh on lucia

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well be damned

deft apex
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Poor well WorryCommandant

glass bay
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@shadow holly the hatsune miku story is quite wholesome

shadow holly
glass bay
rose yew
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my story?

quartz dove
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Karen stupid coating story

rose yew
glass bay
quartz dove
glass bay
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maximum tsundere

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she just said "i cant control the flow rate of my vital fluid"

visual topaz
glass bay
visual topaz
glass bay
shadow holly
quartz dove
shadow holly
glass bay
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is karen > jinhsi?

shadow holly
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BorryWeirdSit what ur even asking?

glass bay
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u defend karen like i defend yinlin

visual topaz
quartz dove
visual topaz
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get back in your cages minions

glass bay
rose yew
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who's jinhsi EvilLiv

glass bay
visual topaz
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yeah

glass bay
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we on holiday

rose yew
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oh it's wuwa char

visual topaz
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get back in your cages

glass bay
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thats when we let out of the factory

visual topaz
glass bay
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what u mean

visual topaz
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i'm letting you free once new round begins

shadow holly
quartz dove
glass bay
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bro wtf i dont get any reward for doing the last sstage?

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are u srs?

shadow holly
quartz dove
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What stage

glass bay
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hatsune miku

visual topaz
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with how dedge the guild is idk if we gonna held on yearly uno tournament

shadow holly
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AYO yall got yearly uno tournament?

shadow holly
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that's pretty cool

glass bay
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in case they convert these coins to cogs

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im not gonna miss that sht again

rose yew
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lulu still have like 5 days left you're good

glass bay
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i maxed already

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now im collecting copium coins to make sure i get max cogs reward

rose yew
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I brought out everything in lul shop except for themed banner tickets EvilLiv

deft apex
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Superior brick energy

rose yew
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the risk of losing those tickets to event ending excites me

visual topaz
glass bay
zenith thorn
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my guild doesn't even care if i did auto EvilLiv

glass bay
zenith thorn
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literally deadge at

glass bay
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wallahi im finished

rose yew
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and yet still top 100 hmmSleeper

shadow holly
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wow kurai bricked ur ass smh

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get a new pilot

zenith thorn
shadow holly
zenith thorn
glass bay
shadow holly
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holy baloney

deft apex
cerulean grotto
night bay
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it was never meant to be yearly

visual topaz
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yeah

night bay
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just a generous act from members

visual topaz
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jsut random giveaway held

cerulean grotto
visual topaz
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i might do that the day after i secure my business tbh

glass bay
visual topaz
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sponsored by iza and shah last time

night bay
glass bay
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i thought shah said hes f2p

visual topaz
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the one before i guess it was seraph and iza

glass bay
cerulean grotto
night bay
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exactly my point

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get some help

visual topaz
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Ponzu is attracted by beeeeg beeg cetaceans

rose yew
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F2p but wants others to be whel LivWow

cerulean grotto
glass bay
night bay
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even people who don't spend much on pgr did giveaways

visual topaz
glass bay
visual topaz
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guild discord is kinda dedge atm for the pgr side

cerulean grotto
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Rc > 1 = 🐳

deft apex
visual topaz
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idk for the others

quartz dove
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Rc > 1 = 🐳

glass bay
deft apex
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Oh lawd

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The good business EvilLiv

visual topaz
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more slrsly remove the tripping effect

rose yew
visual topaz
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that's that kind of business i'm talking about

deft apex
rocky valley
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wait i know you @night bay

lilac wraith
visual topaz
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both

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ik some still play hsr gi ww

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some simply stopped with mobage/gacha in general

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but still plays pc games

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why is Zoul still here

lilac wraith
rocky valley
visual topaz
rocky valley
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meow

glass bay
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Tired of mald?

rose yew
visual topaz
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or game becomes boring

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when they see i frames fiesta, bablool becoming easier than norman and ripoff game as event gamemodes they simply quit WorryCommandant

glass bay
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I see

visual topaz
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reminds me

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i capped on lulu coins

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because i was away for 40hours

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coins after 300300 vanished

glass bay
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Is there a total cap?

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I really hope they convert to cogs

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But I didn't redeem my spinner tickets and I missed so many cogs

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I can't let that happen on the offchance

visual topaz
glass bay
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But total coin owned is limitless?

dapper skiff
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Limitless mentioned???

visual topaz
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but mathematically speaking assuming perfect input and stuff like that i'd say we're still capped at sub 5mil coins for the duration of the event

glass bay
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Imagine 1 cog for 1 lulu coin

visual topaz
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total earned coin might be >5M coins

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but you're def spending around ~1M coins upgradings restaurants chibis buffs etc

glass bay
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4 mil coin from lulu if they convert to cogs is still insane

livid lark
glass bay
visual topaz
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sounds good enough for chibi returns

quartz dove
glass bay
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Hopefully they don't brick us

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They converted all other event currency

visual topaz
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P sure it gives nothing

glass bay
visual topaz
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Gamemode alrdy has a lot of trade vouchers and tickets alrdy

glass bay
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But the spinner had more

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And it was even less work to collect

visual topaz
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Watching 105 chibis working isn't work to me

glass bay
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Some ppl don't even have cow because they don't enter dorm

visual topaz
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I don't have Capriccio because of RdF

livid lark
cobalt condor
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@shadow holly can you do coop now?

shadow holly
zenith thorn
glass bay
glass bay
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So many bricks being revealed

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But I cannot understand why ppl don't like dorm

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Dorm is so cute

livid lark
velvet agate
cobalt condor
livid lark
glass bay
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And put them to bed

livid lark
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i enter dorm to reset commissions and then go back to the main menu kekw

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i dont even pat them anymore

glass bay
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Fk monster

zenith thorn
velvet agate
zenith thorn
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in my defence the only rare occurrence where i did enter dorm

i only pat selena

glass bay
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I want the liv plushie in chibi form

livid lark
#

slavery

zenith thorn
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only selena deserve patting

livid lark
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just how I like my constructs

glass bay
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Fk bstrds

thorn creek
shadow holly
glass bay
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@visual topaz are u reading this sht

shadow holly
#

ponzu come fill in the lobby for the photo event

glass bay
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I'm in bed

shadow holly
glass bay
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Use another device to login

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U have it

livid lark
#

is trs piloting for you now

glass bay
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On some things

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Not ppc wz

rose yew
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cursed waves? AylaGasp

glass bay
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Yh

cobalt condor
quartz dove
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Trslao

glass bay
shadow holly
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nah we got a random guy joun

glass bay
shadow holly
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don't have access to my pc rn

glass bay
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I see

worldly stratus
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for the check event : who should i get? ||and between these 2 whos the better one crimson weave or bianca stig||

worldly stratus
stiff elm
livid lark
stiff elm
shadow holly
livid lark
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lol fair

shadow holly
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ReallySinister the time of actually good units has come

livid lark
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hah

shadow holly
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cringeson weeb cant stand a chance

livid lark
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cw sends her katana to the moon before it comes back

carmine reef
shadow holly
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counterpoint, cw is cringe and budget dark is still not gonna do anything

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if people are starting this late i dont think theyll even have the resources to build astral n stuff in case they get cw

carmine reef
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Idk

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You could say that about any team at a certain time

thorn creek
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I agree

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CW is mega cringe

carmine reef
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Anyway i think if you've already waited for wata patch to get lamia the real answer is you might as well keep waiting a bit longer for someone even better than either

frozen creek
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cw op

cerulean grotto
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Lamia is dogwater without whel dark team

barren plank
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Purple dragon KareninaGasp

cerulean grotto
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Might as well solo cw

cerulean grotto
quartz dove
cerulean grotto
meager iris
buoyant hornet
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But if someone started on this patch and can get both then it's worth imo

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Balter is amazing but phys is kinda copium without properly built rose and alisa ig

cerulean grotto
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Imma suggest only cw until old man is available

quartz dove
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Lamia solo doesnt beat cw

buoyant hornet
buoyant hornet
shadow holly
cerulean grotto
meager iris
cerulean grotto
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He'd refuse to accept it even if it's true

buoyant hornet
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Also lightning doesn't require SSS to have shred on its A tank

quartz dove
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Wuwa cc AmeliaEnhance

buoyant hornet
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And lux only needs SS

glass bay
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Or just same name coincidentally

buoyant hornet
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So light is just more accessible in every way

meager iris
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Who tf

glass bay
meager iris
glass bay
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I see

buoyant hornet
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I wonder what it'll be like for new players who join in the gen 2.5 tank era

buoyant hornet
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Ig we'll just be recommending the tanks over the attackers?

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But they don't usually carry solo right?

barren plank
#

They can solo, albeit being copium

meager iris
buoyant hornet
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Nanamech was one of the strongest units somehow lmao

barren plank
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New amp when

buoyant hornet
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And ofc garnet

quartz dove
buoyant hornet
meager iris
barren plank
meager iris
visual topaz
buoyant hornet
barren plank
quartz dove
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Good old day

buoyant hornet
quartz dove
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When kuro isnt anti f2p

barren plank
quartz dove
meager iris
buoyant hornet
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Ember was long gone by then

barren plank
buoyant hornet
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Even at SSS she has weird flaws

barren plank
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No damage

meager iris
thorn creek
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After lamia, I don't care for selena anymore

buoyant hornet
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Dark radiation stuck to her sig mems, poor dmg, inconsistent rots without cottie, her SS passive ruins guin

barren plank
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Yea I feel like Lilith HAS to be the replacement Capriccio is free unit and way too old

buoyant hornet
barren plank
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Plus it'll be sm1 to hold Umbra affix for CW

meager iris
buoyant hornet
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Minus the bigger amp buff

livid lark
#

unable to hold 4 guin as an amp AlphaPeek

thorn creek
rose yew
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LivPray let lilith be ice attacker pls

buoyant hornet
rose yew
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let me cope further with capri lulw

barren plank
#

Imagine we are praying for new amp of SOME sort and then Lilith ends up being some goofy crap like void tank

quartz dove
rose yew
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void tank sounds nice hmmSleeper

livid lark
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selena... can't

meager iris
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Imagine they bring new class and Lilith is the first one

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I mean tbh selena problems might be solved with leap not a replacement 21Yay

livid lark
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nah if they leap her it will be an affix add on

quartz dove
livid lark
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not a true leap like what we had before

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and capri will still be garbo

#

forever garbage

thorn creek
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capri was whel trap

shadow holly
#

i just wouldnt expect leaps for already free units

barren plank
buoyant hornet
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I think they wanted to keep her a cash cow that requires insane investment to be usable

quartz dove
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Cant anyone resend me that qu fail wz video

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I need it

livid lark
barren plank
stiff elm
velvet agate
barren plank
# buoyant hornet Yep

But tbh tho if they were willing to replace Hyperreal before Garnet Empyrea and Cap then who knows what will happen next

buoyant hornet
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Kamui void tank when

thorn creek
meager iris
stiff elm
buoyant hornet
barren plank
buoyant hornet
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They only delayed it for so long to avoid angering people who invested in her

barren plank
velvet agate
#

They already skipped capri and kaleido

meager iris
velvet agate
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Free units no rights

buoyant hornet
#

For all we know lilith could just end up being an A rank or something imagine LMAO

livid lark
buoyant hornet
meager iris
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Nah you know what? It’s time for vera to come back to dark team

velvet agate
buoyant hornet
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Vera dark amp saves dark team

buoyant hornet
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And outdps lamia

livid lark
meager iris
buoyant hornet
barren plank
#

Makes sense actually

rose yew
#

void alpha + Roland

buoyant hornet
meager iris
buoyant hornet
barren plank
buoyant hornet
#

But the problem is cw is like the most popular unit overall

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By a long shot

rose yew
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they just have to make a more motivated alpha unit EvilLiv

buoyant hornet
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So they probably don't wanna replace her just yet

meager iris
rose yew
#

kuro combat has no bounds

livid lark
rose yew
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we're getting closer to aerial combat seeing oath

buoyant hornet
livid lark
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any unit that gets affix gets life for another year or so i think

barren plank
buoyant hornet
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Or sub dps now LMAO

barren plank
#

Common CW L

livid lark
#

technically cw is now qte bot

thorn creek
#

S bridget

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more hot women plz

buoyant hornet
livid lark
buoyant hornet
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Early lamia everyone thought she'd be the perfect swap character

livid lark
#

i wasn't capping

buoyant hornet
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Remember when everyone was saying Alpha is objectively better solo?

#

And now everyone is taking it back

rose yew
#

still waiting for kamui new frame

livid lark
#

wasn't that just because of that blanc vid

buoyant hornet
shadow holly
buoyant hornet
#

It was a genuine meta statement

meager iris
buoyant hornet
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I think dark team suffers simply because of the tank and amp slots being weird asf

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Lamia is perfect as is it's the other units that have funny minimum requirements and even then they hit like paper

buoyant hornet
barren plank
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Scire has problems but is ok, Cap is just doodoo

buoyant hornet
#

Capri is just

cunning tree
#

Leaped Rozen outperforms Lamia completely in terms of Core Passive (Vera's new Core Passive is as strong as SS Lamia’s Core Passive, but unlike Lamia with her 4-5 Core attacks, Leaped Vera can do 7-8 Core attacks. Also Vera's new Core Passive has auto dodge) but her new 2 ult still does less damage than Lamia’s ult for obvious reasons.

Yeah, Rozen is no longer a QTE slave, she's extremely good burster who can be on par with Lamia now lol.

meager iris
barren plank
#

Meta dark team went from being the cheapest team to the most expensive in the span of <5 months

buoyant hornet
#

Hard locked to sig mem, has weird interactions with mems that supports commonly use, doesn't do enough dmg

quartz dove
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Leaped Rozen outperforms Lamia completely in terms of Core Passive (Vera's new Core Passive is as strong as SS Lamia’s Core Passive, but unlike Lamia with her 4-5 Core attacks, Leaped Vera can do 7-8 Core attacks. Also Vera's new Core Passive has auto dodge) but her new 2 ult still does less damage than Lamia’s ult for obvious reasons.

Yeah, Rozen is no longer a QTE slave, she's extremely good burster who can be on par with Lamia now lol.

quartz dove
#

Thx saurok

buoyant hornet
buoyant hornet
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Schizolena is cool asf but wow she's holding dark team DOWN

barren plank
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The sad part is that she doesn't even need some complete kit rework to be good

buoyant hornet
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Also daren is just built like sht her rotation is unplayable before leap unless you have SS3 like wtf? 😭

barren plank
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Literally if Dark Radiation was just added into her QTE clause we would all be frolicing in the hills happy

barren plank
livid lark
#

capri and scire were the first of their kind

buoyant hornet
buoyant hornet
quartz dove
barren plank
quartz dove
river nymph
quartz dove
barren plank
#

WAIT FRICK I STILL HAVE TO MALD MADOREA

meager iris
barren plank
#

Byeeeee

buoyant hornet
#

It's just weird how they made a mid-gen 2 era character that fails to outdps freaking tenebrion of all people

#

Unless you have paid investment

river nymph
#

erm what the flip

quartz dove
meager iris
quartz dove
buoyant hornet
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She's bad but she did what she needed to do and even worked at base S sigless

meager iris
#

And the higher your investment with daren the faster you will lose sanity bcz of orb rng

shadow holly
livid lark
buoyant hornet
barren plank
#

Oh

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Uuuh idk ab that one

livid lark
#

oh not capri

buoyant hornet
#

The probably didn't know how detrimental the sig mem shred thing would be

#

They thought it was just another way to encourage using her on field

barren plank
#

Garnet does insane damage (for her era) and her flag shred could be applied to several wz waves tho is the difference

buoyant hornet
shadow holly
buoyant hornet
#

And it comes at the expense of mems that teneb/21 can use to apply extra shred

shadow holly
#

youre smoking some high grade zaza if you think teneb does any damage

quartz dove
#

Karen defender

buoyant hornet
meager iris
shadow holly
#

her qte is much better
her shred is much better

buoyant hornet
quartz dove
#

Bad tank

buoyant hornet
#

Just saying how they managed to fumble her kit where she's dysfunctional until high invest lol

shadow holly
buoyant hornet
#

Even with S daren solo Luna was the wave meanwhile terb/21 could afford to swap a little bit to cover luna downtime if you had Selena for example

#

Daren can't really do that properly without leap

meager iris
shadow holly
#

WorryCommandant what

#

teneb/21 swap? please stop

#

its not even funny

barren plank
#

Terb swap mb if u had SS

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But that's only for the first wave ur not going back to him

shadow holly
#

bro ur not swapping

livid lark
shadow holly
#

his ult is frozen if hes swapped off

buoyant hornet
#

That was the meta back then lmaoooo

shadow holly
#

so thats not swapping
ur just ulting at the start and never fielding him again

buoyant hornet
#

That's genuinely how people in cn played for a while

barren plank
quartz dove
#

Must be nice

quartz dove
#

My luna is subhuman

#

So ineed capri dps

buoyant hornet
#

Dark wz was torture

#

Solo Luna S 5* peak gameplay

shadow holly
#

if people in cn played like that it was facilitated by a good capri
and in that case you would swap regardless of who your tank is

buoyant hornet
#

I think the problem with teneb is his better numbers were completely offset by utter lack of aoe and bad qte

barren plank
# buoyant hornet Mine stayed at S 5* LMAOOOO

Same
Back then you could at the very least rectify swapping to SS DLT Cap bc Laurel solo was utter cancer especially at extreme low invest
But now w Lamia, Capri is just a massive anchor chain

buoyant hornet
#

21 qte is a bit better than both but teneb's is straight up dysfunctional against waves that have 3+ enemies

barren plank
#

3.81s QTE that splits mobs 💀

buoyant hornet
#

Similar results if not better

quartz dove
#

Karen and capri is a mistakr

buoyant hornet
#

2 lamia rots, Capri, 21 fills the remaining 2 seconds, switch back to lamia

buoyant hornet
#

Only saving grace is better bathlon proc until qu patch

barren plank
buoyant hornet
#

And once again only good against 1-2 enemies

barren plank
#

They have same amount of QTE hits
So same benefit from Bath lulw

quartz dove
#

Other tank like garney mech can sub in at ss0 r1 meanwhile katen

cunning tree
#

Lamia had insane potential to be the hottest QTE bot for dark team. But Kuro fumbled super hard by making her JP QTE voiceline completely unacceptable. Almost as unacceptable as Alisa Echo's eyebrows.

buoyant hornet
#

Daren procs bathlon just as well ye

barren plank
#

Terb and XXI have same amount of QTE hits

buoyant hornet
#

Are you serious lmao 💀😭

shadow holly
buoyant hornet
#

No way

barren plank
buoyant hornet
#

Wow

livid lark
#

isn't 21's shred area wide as well?

buoyant hornet
#

Never realized 21 qte was even a miltihit

shadow holly
quartz dove
#

Look at glory

barren plank
#

Gathers mobs too

buoyant hornet
#

Better in every way

shadow holly
#

plus her co bot keeps up the tank class passive

quartz dove
#

LOOK AT HIM MALDING

shadow holly
#

nuh uh

buoyant hornet
#

21 qte is the blueprint

#

Garnet took notes

livid lark
#

hanying decided that it was the way

#

arena wide

buoyant hornet
#

Hanying has similar qte?

livid lark
#

hanying's is map wide didn't you know

buoyant hornet
#

I never thought about it but how good are the new tank qtes?

buoyant hornet
#

She said fck that

pine slate
#

Hanying is map wide shred refreshing every second iirc

buoyant hornet
#

Does it gather too?

#

Because sometimes balter just gathers most enemies but forgets one 💀

livid lark
#

uncle's isn't as big but the bombardments cover a wide area

quartz dove
#

All better than wanshi

shadow holly
meager iris
buoyant hornet
#

At least it's faster than mech qte I hope

quartz dove
meager iris
buoyant hornet
livid lark
quartz dove
#

Jk sss is copeable

buoyant hornet
#

At least for my SS0 balter lmao

quartz dove
barren plank
shadow holly
buoyant hornet
#

SS3 spams waves and those have gather already iirc

livid lark