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[river nymph]

yo

[glass bay]

Uwu

[lilac wraith]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3e3BYc9WWwcKILTST9nNMdr_SR4aKeVHXO0l8YRm_qk/https/media.tenor.com/tMI9iIxoRpoAAAPo/selena-pgr.mp4

[glass bay]

Is this size tier list?

[raw swift]

shhhh

[glass bay]

Miko only side booba

Part 2 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Nf421z7LR/

[steady otter]

https://youtube.com/shorts/KLFflhqjJlQ?si=8KcFLG9a3thswRVl

[glass bay]

Wtf

[raw swift]

[fallow ether]

almost same ammount

[willow thicket]

Ok.... here we go. This is the correct non-brick move right?

[mighty tusk]

yes

[ripe stag]

Pick crimson abyss

[mighty tusk]

[ripe stag]

The true ||non-||brick move

[willow thicket]

Why you try to confuse me? 😦

[abstract warren]

any arknights players here?

[peak halo]

Na ca not work for everyone

[jaunty beacon]

mods saying misinfo in gameplay chat

[abstract warren]

if yes is there a site like gray ravens for arknights?

[jaunty beacon]

why would me know/care

[dreamy pelican]

chat

292817 on hell lamia; s5 lamia r1 sig, is that an okay score?

[shadow holly]

[mighty tusk]

quite low tbh

[dreamy pelican]

print screen button on my laptop broke so i cant screenshot xdd

[stuck sphinx]

Ctrl f for misinfo mod

[mighty tusk]

but depends on your teammates

[dreamy pelican]

sss sigless crapi and sss no.21

[quartz dove]

S5 lamia

[dreamy pelican]

da vinki on 21

[quartz dove]

[mighty tusk]

try to aim for 30 sec hell or below

[dreamy pelican]

*please stop reminding me how skullbroke i am *

[shadow holly]

arknights.wiki.gg is the "good" wiki for it
because fandom one was bad and it got abandoned @abstract warren

[dreamy pelican]

im doing 3 lamia rotations, i dont know if i can reduce it to 2

best i can do rn is 36 seconds (dunno why the game says 38 though)

[abstract warren]

thank you

[glass bay]

Why qu so high in the list

[mighty tusk]

there's always a 2 sec delay after finishing the boss

[dreamy pelican]

should i give lingya to crapi or not? if i give crapi i can give lamia an extra blue orb

but if not then i give lamia some extra atk

[quartz dove]

How u gonna proc lingya

[dreamy pelican]

at the start i always 3 ping blue orb on crapi to proc dv on 21

3 ping, switch to lamia, activate both crapis and 21's qtes

[shadow holly]

triple rot should be around 23 seconds or a bit more depending on whether you do dives
#📀・video-share message
here i have an example of triple rot on hell Luna

[peak halo]

I guess u a bit slow
My s5 lami 3 rot is 30s

[dreamy pelican]

bless 🙏

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[shadow holly]

[quartz dove]

[pine slate]

daren and capri?

[mighty tusk]

21

[dreamy pelican]

sss 21, sss crapi

[pine slate]

hm

should be able to kill in 2 rots no?

[stuck sphinx]

That looks like old balter time

[pine slate]

or maybe 1 rot with dive

[stuck sphinx]

With lumi

[pine slate]

tf is 292k anyways

30s+?

[mighty tusk]

38 sec roughly

[stuck sphinx]

Ok nvm

[mighty tusk]

time hell 38

[velvet hedge]

Hell 0:38

292242

[pine slate]

yeah thats rlly high

AINTNAURWAY

[stuck sphinx]

That’s like old hell black shark

With lumi

[feral pollen]

lamia vs lamia is something else

[shadow holly]

wtf SS time

where your 9s

[scarlet fern]

Is it okay to scrap the 5 star pulse weapon

[shadow holly]

lightning spark? it's kinda alright for storm to use for phys shred but considering you should get Rosetta from one of the selectors, ur probably safe to scrap it

[glass bay]

I scrap u

[scarlet fern]

I have rosetta with her weapon
I want to extract pulse weapon because I can get a 5* for my cw

[scarlet fern]

[shadow holly]

no u pookie

[glass bay]

[scarlet fern]

So since I have rosetta with her weapon can I scrap pulse weapon?

[shadow holly]

yeah that sounds alright

[scarlet fern]

Yippee

[hoary mulch]

alright thank you i got it, i'll make sure to use the starter banner to ss rank all those a rank characters to get into the meta

[zealous mantle]

invest?

[scarlet fern]

How do I unequip

[zealous mantle]

you cant. only swap.. game does not allow NO weapon

[scarlet fern]

[dreamy pelican]

yea nope i cant get above 37 secs

[pine slate]

Get another chainsaw

[scarlet fern]

Where on earth am I supposed to get another chainsaw

[pine slate]

Did u send recording?

[zealous mantle]

just swap weapons between the 2 Nanamis..

[scarlet fern]

Bro
I want to scrap it

[dreamy pelican]

im at my hometown, using mobile data; i cant send a video lest i want to use my remaining data

[shadow holly]

he has SSS Lamia so that's a pretty bad time
SS fish can do 11

[zealous mantle]

ah then you;re out of luck.

[pine slate]

[scarlet fern]

Where can I get another chainsaw

[zealous mantle]

i could only do 319.5

[scarlet fern]

[pine slate]

Ur doing smth wrong if ur getting that high of a time on lamia using dark

Dv eins 21 and sera guin Capri right?

[zealous mantle]

coop or gacha (you get 5 star weps that be used as fodder, in the process of pulling sigs)

[abstract warren]

are new characters added to the s rank selector?

[pine slate]

@dreamy pelican harmo lamia?

[pine slate]

Standard? Yes

[zealous mantle]

223 112 - SS Dolphin
DV Eins Daren
Sera Guin Cap
at first I needed to use dive to kill
but i realized I could sorta cancel the dive mid-way (sometime)
but ig im just slow

[mighty tusk]

how many hours do I have to wait to join another guild?

[dreamy pelican]

yea, harmo cottie

[zealous mantle]

8ish

[abstract warren]

the selector we get for free on half aniversarry

[dreamy pelican]

scratch this, im doing 4 actually

[mighty tusk]

because I'll be migrating to arcadian after this guild expe round

[pine slate]

How r u needing 4 rots bro wtf

U should be getting like 13s hell idk what's going wrong there

[shadow holly]

oh hm no SSS capi is quite a lot of damage loss
with SSS Capri could do this
#📨・meta-help message

[abstract warren]

the selector we get for free on half aniversarry are new characters added or its always the same?

[shadow holly]

so 13 with dive sounds right for you

[dreamy pelican]

13s on s5 lamia?

[pine slate]

Ye

[mighty tusk]

you mean s-rank selector in january?

[shadow holly]

nah they're not gonna do that fast
not enough damage

S5 lacking a lot on core orb damage + its xxi

big shred diff from karen

double rot should be fine tho

coggers u got lamia cub?

[dreamy pelican]

nope :(

[shadow holly]

[dreamy pelican]

i have only lingya

[shadow holly]

oh that's really depression invest

[dreamy pelican]

tell me about it

[shadow holly]

still do record the run if you can

[pine slate]

Oh ss has core dmg?

[shadow holly]

yeah it's like +50% EDB on core orbs lmao

[pine slate]

Ye nvm then

2 rots should kill tho

[dreamy pelican]

alright ill try to record and send it to yall

hopefully i have enough data

[shadow holly]

[pine slate]

Go to a free wifi area

[pine slate]

Oh wtf 15% edb too

[shadow holly]

yea

[pine slate]

[vague nebula]

yes no work today

[zealous mantle]

how many stacks is this Ult? 2 or 3?
cant kill without using partial dive

also my bad, i meant 3S Cap

[shadow holly]

no SS and no cub is like
really not doing much damage

[vague nebula]

I can be lazy here

[raw swift]

【这就是拉弥亚的实力!2S0带双A轻取黑鲨巫毒】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1N8411m7t7/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=163739c647cb3a4b08a9e0d78fadf229

record your rotation dude

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

something is wrong

[shadow holly]

that one is 3 stack core orb
I used matrix orb before ult1 + 2 3pings in fish form

[raw swift]

this is ss0, but lamia is way less tankier than black shark

[zealous mantle]

in fish form you only used TWO 3 pings?

[raw swift]

4 rotations is like 33~34 seconds?

[pine slate]

I don't think no ss + cub + Daren goes from 1 rot to 4

[shadow holly]

yes
since I did matrix orb before ult1
so I got one core orb stack from there

[zealous mantle]

SUGOI I didnt know you can pre-stack in human form

[shadow holly]

yeah that's why I'm still recommending them to record

[pine slate]

Honestly can't help much on wz or ppc unless there's a recording

[zealous mantle]

your Daren is Eins DV right?

[pine slate]

[shadow holly]

ye that's the faster way to do it if ur not super tight on damage
if tight on damage then recommended to do all orbs in fish form since they do more thanks to SS passive

[shadow holly]

yep 4dv 2eins Daren 4sera 2guin Capri
both 6class

[zealous mantle]

ayt. thanks!

[umbral harbor]

hey

[shadow holly]

[dense temple]

should i build sophia if i don't have liv emprea?

[mighty tusk]

[zealous mantle]

probably nope

unless you have nobody else to build

[dense temple]

she's the only avail in my fire team rn

[umbral harbor]

Would having an attacker or a support in your team make your character stronger?
Like in the Lamia thing should I take my SS Luna or SSS+ 21 to finish it?

[zealous mantle]

no i mean for your WHOLE roster.. Sophia is dead last priority..

[shadow holly]

also @zealous mantle you can use 2darwin harmo for quick PPC kills like these because it allows for a bit more damage from core in human form
in case you lack damage

[mighty tusk]

depends? but having one tank is mandatory

[umbral harbor]

Depend on what?

[pine slate]

Off element amp better

[umbral harbor]

So I should rather have capriccio and 21 with Lamia?

[zealous mantle]

ohh interesting.. yeah I needed to dive + cancel to kill

cant kill with just max stacks fish white orb + ult

[dense temple]

is selena good?

[shadow holly]

you're using glorious afterglow reso on Lamia?

[zealous mantle]

yes. Sophia is that bad

[mighty tusk]

rozen can take capriccio's place

[pine slate]

No

[mighty tusk]

[zealous mantle]

yeah

[pine slate]

Don't u have Alisa or smth

[raw swift]

Luna doesn't really do jack shyt if fish is on team lol

[umbral harbor]

I have SSS+ Rozen, but I'm trying to deal dmg, not have hp

[dense temple]

i have alisa

[shadow holly]

yeah might be just reso issue for Daren and Capri then if they're not 6class

[mighty tusk]

solo with lamia then

[shadow holly]

otherwise should be fine
I used 4derketo 2cot 2darw Lamia there

[zealous mantle]

SSS+ Rozen > Sophia by 10000x

but as for Rozen vs Capri, it depends how built your Cap is

[zealous mantle]

does having only SS0 R1 Daren matter?

[shadow holly]

nah
s r1 would be fine too

[umbral harbor]

I don't use Sophia, I meant using Luna instead, but someone says having an attacker doesn't do anything so I'll use 21

[ripe stag]

Qte slave but better

[shadow holly]

SS3 doesn't do anything for QTE bot duties

[raw swift]

Who is your setup? Fish 21 rozen?

[zealous mantle]

i mean for 1 shotting Lamia hell

[umbral harbor]

Ironically, I'd have surely already finished if I just tried instead of talking here.
My setup is Capriccio Lamia 21

[zealous mantle]

every team needs a tank for the** EDR Shred**

[raw swift]

Your capriccio invest?

[ripe stag]

I mean
I did it just now

[raw swift]

How many S and how many reso?

[ripe stag]

With no. 21 no less

[umbral harbor]

She's SS, close to SSS

[ripe stag]

[umbral harbor]

my 21 is SSS+

[zealous mantle]

woops lacks context, i meant for 1 shotting in 11 seconds

[ripe stag]

Oh

[pine slate]

I 1 shot lamia hell with S r1 Daren

[ripe stag]

I took 15

[dense temple]

is she worth it to make sss+

[pine slate]

213 112

[zealous mantle]

i could only do 13s but could be just skissue and boomer hands

[ripe stag]

[zealous mantle]

ok my skissue indeed

[raw swift]

If you need help you need to record

[ripe stag]

Same here

[raw swift]

Talking about setup only solves half the problem

[zealous mantle]

oh well ill practice next time, coz i already used up all my AP

[ripe stag]

243 151 101 with XXI

[umbral harbor]

Well, I do use her. I don't have any best tanks and in a dark team, makes sense to use her.
I have some SSS+ 1 ranks, I got her to SSS+ from daily shards, not black cards.

I'll record!

[ripe stag]

I'm glad xxi proc'd 4 bath on time

[pine slate]

Sss is enough

[dense temple]

im still grinding in the main story so i can get those 30 bc

[zealous mantle]

altho... I used DV during White fish orb > Ult
and not during lightning explosion in human form.. is that a DPS loss?

[abstract warren]

is it possible to get ss3 as a f2p?

[shadow holly]

Bathlon in ppc

[ripe stag]

Very much

[mighty tusk]

not really

[pine slate]

No unless u skip

[raw swift]

Your fish 2s I assume?

[ripe stag]

Daren SS3 is possible come on

[dense temple]

coz i don't have attacker in dark team so i gotta pull up for lamia

[mighty tusk]

mod misinfoing

[ripe stag]

That becomes free

[zealous mantle]

yeah 223 112 (SS Dolphin)

[shadow holly]

yeah it is

[ripe stag]

[shadow holly]

2s uses dv on core in human form too

[abstract warren]

how

[raw swift]

Not really, dv on white orb for SS rank is ok

[mighty tusk]

who else that is not free in trade vouchers?

[ripe stag]

I mean SS3 not the premium characters

If they are in trade vouchers it's fine

[raw swift]

Like I said, if other people could do it but you don't then you need to record

[zealous mantle]

ok cool.. Coz I noticed if i use DV in human form, more HP bars remain than using it during white orb

[shadow holly]

losing too much damage from core in human form and orb damage in fish form

[ripe stag]

Lamia be like: "my orbs are useless desu wa"

[raw swift]

Is it? My fish is 3s so can't relate

[zealous mantle]

does the DV last long enough after core in human form to benefit the 3 pings in fish form?

[ripe stag]

I like how dark dps went from "good damage in orbs" to "no damage in orbs"

[umbral harbor]

I'll send the video

[shadow holly]

yeah the only time I've seen DV used on fish form core is on Hamlet since early on you don't have much stacks so damage distribution is different

[ripe stag]

Stage 2 special orb is pretty damn solid

In damage

[abstract warren]

alpha cw i want to ss3

[raw swift]

If that case Daren don't hold 4dv lol

[ripe stag]

.......why

Just why

[raw swift]

2 dv 2 eins 2 gloria or something

[ripe stag]

There are lots of units who are better with SS3 than CW

[mighty tusk]

ss3 cw aint worth unless you play swap in wz

ppc it's ok though

[ripe stag]

Just wait for a year till she gets leap

[umbral harbor]

I sent the video in wrong channel

[ripe stag]

Swap warzone still works without SS3

Trust me

I am forced to play it

[dreamy pelican]

https://youtu.be/2wQwKrOhLHc

[shadow holly]

I'm not gonna argue since I haven't tested everything personally but Windbell probably did and that's what he does

• the Hamlet thing I've seen from other good SS players like nityanka

[zealous mantle]

me who doesnt swap on 222 CW team

[mighty tusk]

ss3 cw is like....a bait rank

[ripe stag]

Yes

[pine slate]

Ok first mistake Capri starter

[dreamy pelican]

fortunately my data was enough

:)

[pine slate]

Lemme keep on watching

[zealous mantle]

im just lazy to learn 21

[ripe stag]

Me who swaps with 222.3 131 100 lightning team

[zealous mantle]

i mean i would swap if i had your invest lol

[ripe stag]

I swap just cuz I have SS3 feral

[zealous mantle]

exactly lol

[ripe stag]

Pretty damn solid at SS3

[raw swift]

[ripe stag]

god I'm getting addicted to invested units

[zealous mantle]

no pet at all?

[umbral harbor]

As you can see from the video, I managed to beat the last challenge first try!

[dreamy pelican]

i got lingya ;-;

[ripe stag]

I mean even without that you can swap just for 1 rot though

[raw swift]

Who did you start with?

You didn't switch?

[umbral harbor]

I didn't switch

[zealous mantle]

ig it boils down to my laziness with 21

[ripe stag]

Wait
Why did you take so long to ult 1 ?

[umbral harbor]

Just cut the first five seconds because otherwise, file so big

[raw swift]

He start with lamia

💀

[ripe stag]

💀

[coarse gorge]

i accidently resonated a 5 star weapon a while ago, is it okay as an f2p?

[raw swift]

When there's amp on team

[zealous mantle]

you should 3 ping with Lamia human form, so you get the stronger version of her core explosion

[umbral harbor]

Don't amplifiers...
Amplify passively your other characters?

[ripe stag]

5* weapons are fine
6* weapon resos take time for F2p

[umbral harbor]

Also, I need her as leader to have her attack effect

[pine slate]

S5 lamia

[ripe stag]

?

[coarse gorge]

so is it okay if i max resonated 5 star weapons?

[raw swift]

Amp buff applies for 10 seconds when you switch

[abstract warren]

uhm how long does it take to get a 5* wep?

[coarse gorge]

3 weeks i think

[umbral harbor]

So why do I deal so much dmg??

[ripe stag]

I mean
As long as you have copies and without sacrificing ? Why not

[pine slate]

3 weeks unless u gacha

[zealous mantle]

oh my bad

[mighty tusk]

because lamia deals dmg

[coarse gorge]

i have like 10 unused 5 stars now

[ripe stag]

Because she's a dps ?

[zealous mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-burger-burger-cat-cat-burger-gif-3736561558572180499

[ripe stag]

"Why lamia does damage",

Idk how to respond

[raw swift]

You could do even more dude, that is considered low

[ripe stag]

[pine slate]

@dreamy pelican dive on 1st rot, activate dv on core on the 2nd rot

[umbral harbor]

It's time based with the dmg boost affix for Lamia's attacks so ofc I'd use only her

[pine slate]

Put lamia on yellow, set 21 as starter

[umbral harbor]

Anyway, it's not really bad for my first try

[pine slate]

U have Capri with 4 sera 2 guin right?

[dreamy pelican]

yep

[ripe stag]

HE RAN OUT OF BUFF AND TANK SHRED

Way too fast with the QTEs

[mighty tusk]

if he does this in ppc I swear

[shadow holly]

it's truly wonderful how you guys have so much fun entertaining the troll every single time they come here

[raw swift]

Ikr

[pine slate]

Try windbell's Lilith hell rot and modify it abit

[umbral harbor]

For the last time, I'm not a troll!
All because this guy spread a rumor...

[pine slate]

Or try this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1282650849830502501/25s_helllilith.mp4?ex=66e76171&is=66e60ff1&hm=85b314194a78478400d0d06de0f6495d81e4d3691a3ffb75d28ac82ac6577d34&

[ripe stag]

Trolls make gph fun

[raw swift]

They say don't feed the trolls

But they didn't say

Don't feed them bricks

[abstract warren]

any bc clutch methods?for 4 days i need 48 pulls

[ripe stag]

BC clutch ?

What

[dreamy pelican]

The reason you should skip lamia is because Black Rock Shooter is coming next patch, so lamia's patch should be used as a saving patch. As you all know we only get one shot at pulling black rock shooter and her sig weapon, BRS out damages lamia at SSS, Brs is just essential for fire team and the upcoming Watanabe epitaph, pulling for lamia is unwise and is a bad move.

[abstract warren]

get bc fast to get character

[dreamy pelican]

best sht we got from a troll

[abstract warren]

from coop right?

[ripe stag]

Do event gamemodes, story, golden vortex

[vague nebula]

[pine slate]

Ye

[pine slate]

Swipe

[dreamy pelican]

[ripe stag]

Tldr: skip lamia cuz a premium A rank is coming who's not even stronger than Hyperreal, like SSS+ BRS is weaker than S0 Hyperreal by a lot.

skip lamia cuz I can't get her

[feral pollen]

bro got baited by pasta

[dreamy pelican]

what difference does starting with 21 do?

[umbral harbor]

who tf is black rock shooter

[pine slate]

Capri starter doesn't give u 2 guin buff cuz she heals herself

[umbral harbor]

I'll be able to switch to Lamia and have buff boost supposedly

[pine slate]

[dreamy pelican]

[pine slate]

Everything heal related is thrown out the window

If Capri is starter

[dreamy pelican]

i just started crapi to proc qtes, didn't think about the guin buff

so to compensate not getting qtes using crapi, i dive on 1st rot?

[pine slate]

Wdym not getting qtes

[abstract warren]

what do i miss if i don t do this?

[umbral harbor]

But Lamia starter give a bit dark atk to all characters whereas 21 a def boost and the affix in this mission gives so much atk boost that you'd want to constantly have Lamia to make it higher?

[pine slate]

21 blue, Capri red, lamia yellow

[feral pollen]

300 bc

[dreamy pelican]

at the start of the run, when i proc dv and crapi

[pine slate]

Ye

[dreamy pelican]

ah, aight

[pine slate]

Set 21 on blue bro

[woven haven]

leader is not starter ffs

[abstract warren]

is it lore important?

[pine slate]

Why would u have a dv user on any other color

[mighty tusk]

get ready for potential headache

[woven haven]

leader is leader bonus
starter is who goes first on the team order

[umbral harbor]

Oh yeah, I forgot that they changed it.

[woven haven]

YOU NEVER WANT LEADER TO BE SAME AS STARTER

[feral pollen]

just some side stories

[dreamy pelican]

i never understood why someone is placed where; is there like a buff you get or something?

[woven haven]

the logic is based on your dps units

[pine slate]

No it depends on what orb colors u use in the characters that matter

[woven haven]

lamia loves to ping 3blue orbs
so you put the DV on blue

[umbral harbor]

You mean your starter should be the amplifier so you switch to the leader to deal more dmg?

[pine slate]

For example, blue is lamia's best orb and starter orb in her rotation so u set dv user on blue

[woven haven]

not amp
just whoever does the least dmg

[dreamy pelican]

i placed 21 on blue bc i start crapi, and crapi has blue orb bc i infinitas'd her; just want to avoid rng is all

i have found the errors of my ways

[pine slate]

If u can't activate qtes on times when it matter, it's either placement or timing issue

[dreamy pelican]

built the comp during luna, so i just replaced wherever luna was on the team with lamia

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

Capri is unique case

[steady otter]

real end game mode
modify Resident evil back pack

[woven haven]

no one really cares about her orbs in terms of qte placement

because she's so utterly garba--
because her dmg is a lot less relevant to team

[dreamy pelican]

no no, say it

her dmg is piss low

[feral pollen]

just get her to s+

[dreamy pelican]

can't even get one bar off

[woven haven]

Lamia Capiss Scire is basically
Lamia on Yellow (her worst orb)
Scire on Red
Capri on Blue

if you can guess why the placement is like that you have understood a lot more about pgr than 90% of this channel

[umbral harbor]

This is resident evil? I didn't play it. It's a horror game right?

[abstract warren]

will we get another s rank selector event?

[mighty tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1238695573163343944/image.webp?ex=66e7a726&is=66e655a6&hm=6b8fbb2578855e58b9e52891c25dac224dc717c9edfb904eed2717d51499ea86&=&format=webp&width=923&height=473

[abstract warren]

what is a paid selector?

[dreamy pelican]

i mean, i get why lamia is on yellow and crapi on blue, but i dont know about scire since i don't have her

[mighty tusk]

you pay

[umbral harbor]

wow, spoiler please

[woven haven]

$100 USD selector

[abstract warren]

oh wait

[feral pollen]

selector that you pay for

[shadow holly]

one you have to buy with rc

[abstract warren]

WHAT why that much

[feral pollen]

600rc

[livid lark]

because it's a gacha game lmao

[woven haven]

cuz its a whole unit + 7.5k BC

[abstract warren]

ohhhh

and the milestone selector?

[woven haven]

1.5 units worth so the selector packs are expensive

[feral pollen]

7.5k + scire copy is pretty juicy tho

[woven haven]

10k and 20k rc spent total over your account

[feral pollen]

basically 22.5k bc

[woven haven]

these are permanent ones

so no time limited thing

but they're more freebies for whales than anything

don't expect to try to get them on purpose

[abstract warren]

ok so whos more worth liv empyrea or bianca stigmata for the november selector?

[dreamy pelican]

its a pretty poor ratio tho, 37.5:1

[pine slate]

Imo empy cuz we get free balter along the line
But balter is prolly a better power boost idk

[steady otter]

nah, that was event on cn
the concept is same
fill the back pack as much as u can

[woven haven]

do you even have 10k RC topped up yet

[abstract warren]

somehow i have 6 shards of her

[woven haven]

10,000 RC

not BC

[abstract warren]

the free one

[mighty tusk]

the free one is in january

[abstract warren]

mb

ye

[woven haven]

that's jan

[mighty tusk]

do you have scire?

[nova forum]

Hai which set will get Balt to do big DMG
4char 2darwin 2fred or 4char 4fred

[abstract warren]

mb so whos more worth betwhen the 2 i have hyperreal and want to go for watanabe

[dreamy pelican]

invest on balter?

[nova forum]

2.333 112 101

[abstract warren]

but i have no phys attacker

[mighty tusk]

other units are more prio, do you have scire?

hyperreal is already powercrept by lucia

and we will get a free balter in lucia patch

[woven haven]

bc capri orb rearrange post ult is red first
so you can ping red before ult to activate scire qte to boost dmg
lamia doesn't generally care about qte colour at SS and above since core orb triggers both anyways

[dreamy pelican]

the numbers, mason. what do they mean

[woven haven]

but red is second best

[abstract warren]

no

[woven haven]

so scire goes there

[nova forum]

Ranks (attacker-tank-support) - weap Reso - harmo

[mighty tusk]

yea unfortunately for future proofing, there's no substitute for her once ionization lucia comes

[abstract warren]

wait scire at least somewhat the lvl of lamia? i also need an dark attacker

wait , shes tank

[mighty tusk]

where's your lamia?

[dreamy pelican]

ahhh that makes a lot more sense

[nova forum]

@ashen edge for hell red liv

[abstract warren]

waiting to appear on the a rank selector

[woven haven]

do note if you intend to do certain ppc stuff scire is on blue with dv set

[mighty tusk]

she would be in the standard banner in wata patch

[woven haven]

cuz u ping blue before core

so you get an earlier qte

[nova forum]

Lemme just test 2dw 2fred

[dreamy pelican]

i mean, yeah. who else is gonna grab the set but her

[abstract warren]

ye

[pine slate]

Ye he's doing ppc so tank is on blue

[woven haven]

the mem bloat is real esp with capiss and alishie t

imagine qte bots needing sig mem

[abstract warren]

do we get a free copy of stigmata in lucia patch?

[mighty tusk]

well, you'll get a free balter later on, but no free scire anywhere apart from the january s-rank selector

[woven haven]

yes

[abstract warren]

no bc needed for lottery?

[mighty tusk]

yes, scire is gonna be mandatory in the selector in january if you dont have her

[quartz dove]

Thats not enough

[abstract warren]

ye but no dark attacker and no empyrea 😭

[woven haven]

free stigmata needs you to do events and stuff that's all

[pine slate]

Lamia?

[mighty tusk]

and not picking scire means your lucia ionization is dead

[dreamy pelican]

do we need ss3 and sig? or is s enough for qte bot for the affix

[woven haven]

you don't need to spend
just keep playing the game and don't slack

[woven haven]

ss3 is good for heisen application

[mighty tusk]

ss3 recommended but just getting 1 copy is enough

[woven haven]

esp with how fast lucia churns through waves

[abstract warren]

i have 12 pulls and no bc on her banner

[mighty tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qpgZHzy8ns&t=3s&pp=ygUOcGdyIGlvbml6YXRpb24%3D

no scire means dedge ion

[woven haven]

SSS also buffs edr shred so scire would like that too

and Scire in ion is very orb starved unless SSS3 so

[dreamy pelican]

solo pyroath is possible, right? i dont think i have the funds for ss3 + sig scire

[woven haven]

depends what metric you want to go

[mighty tusk]

not good

[woven haven]

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[mighty tusk]

because she deals fire dmg

and is affected by off-element

[dreamy pelican]

ahh makes sense

[woven haven]

you picked the one unit who cannot solo ion

[dreamy pelican]

[woven haven]

she requires swapping to scire to even enable ion dmg

[mighty tusk]

so scire skippers are gonna have a hell time for solo lucia

[woven haven]

otherwise she's a fire dps

[quartz dove]

U just need her budget invest ss3 for thay

[woven haven]

solo ion lucia needs 20s of slow fire dmg and losing like idr a lot of orbs to enable 12s of ion dmg uptime

[dreamy pelican]

scire skippers are gonna die. thats me. im scire skippers

[woven haven]

Scire can proc ion mode in 5s and swap to lucia

[woven haven]

btw umbra cw might also want scire

so good luck with that

[dreamy pelican]

another reason to hate affix meta

[mighty tusk]

we still dont know if they will implement umbra wz/ppc now

[woven haven]

yeah but dark amp is the replacement candidate more than dark tank

[pine slate]

Wata leap with umbra affix when

[woven haven]

and they implemented affix wz/ppc for ts and ion pretty early into the comp

so we only really need 2 units with the affix to function

so scire is more than likely going to be in umbra too

at least for a good amount of time

[dreamy pelican]

why even create the affix meta in the first place

how different is it from other elements

[woven haven]

it makes different teams

[pine slate]

Rotation and team difference

[woven haven]

and makes skipping even worse

[mighty tusk]

different teams + prolonging meta relevance

[woven haven]

so bigger fomo

no more glb cope skip

[dreamy pelican]

at the cost of total pain for f2p's

[pine slate]

From now onwards it'll take 2 characters to completely powercreep 1

[woven haven]

f2ps can get everyone if they didn't spend on gacha skins

[mighty tusk]

for skippers specifically

[pine slate]

But future units also powercreeps 2 slots cuz they have element + affix

In other words it's prolly the same

[dreamy pelican]

no more taking small breaks i guess. its all in or quit

[mighty tusk]

but less punishment for dedicated f2p players

[dreamy pelican]

from a game dev perspective, it just doesn't make sense right now

they have so much on their plate to do, and even more now with affixes. if they plan to make affixes to slow down the pace of powercreep, i can sort of see that; but future units will still powercreep both the element and the affix

[pine slate]

Ye so it doesn't change anything

[dreamy pelican]

maybe in the long run the upsides will be visible, but its not a thing rn

[glass bay]

whats the diff, eos anyway

[dreamy pelican]

[woven haven]

it just makes u build more sets and prevents skipping

and affix comps have different rotations

so new timings to learn

essentially 2 teams for the bc price of 1

but double cost on everything else

[analog coral]

dont tell them about glacialation

what what are qu's affixes don't tell me she's trueslash

[raw swift]

Burn

[analog coral]

freezer burn...

[vague nebula]

why did discord send my message twice

[vague nebula]

do it on normal mode

[abstract warren]

does the wanshi banner for 180 bc pull gonna be permanent or?

[raw swift]

180 PULLS??!!

[abstract warren]

bc per pull

[zenith thorn]

what banner are you talking about

[raw swift]

As a person who DID complete it, not much

Just some exp bottles and allat

[zenith thorn]

show a ss

[brave briar]

Hey guys
Any idea on who I should give my weapon usb among my amplifier (expect kelaido and Selena)
Or should I just save it for deran when I get her from the selector Nd get her weapon?

[brave briar]

https://huaxu.app/players/eu/11298269/characters

[livid lark]

@ripe stag how do I DM modmail

just DM as normal?

[abstract warren]

anything lore important?

[tall zinc]

what are the recommended teams for this babel tower?

[raw swift]

You literally just replay the whole story

[ripe stag]

Go to modmail's dms from this server and send dm like you normally do

[raw swift]

Phys dark fire/lightning

Ice is uhh...

[tall zinc]

yeah ice meh

[abstract warren]

? what

[zenith thorn]

yeah just save it for dsren

[abstract warren]

recap thats it?

[tall zinc]

first is witch right?

[zenith thorn]

only 2 6*
alisa and feral

[livid lark]

@ripe stag done

[zenith thorn]

i mean there's rigor 6* too

[brave briar]

Ok thnks

[raw swift]

Actually if you unlock everything you get a bit of story I believe about the ascendants? But it's not too important

There's a reason you don't need to complete it anyway

[glass bay]

WTF the celicas tickets gave cogs

WTFFFFF

[brave briar]

I got for empyrea too

[raw swift]

I haven't sold any of bananami's blank cards

[abstract warren]

is there a way to get empyrea for free?

[brave briar]

Be she's S but I will upgrade she when her gets leap and end up in the voucher shop

[mighty tusk]

discount banner?

[zenith thorn]

idk if using usb for empyrea gonna be worth honestly
considering she's getting dv bot treatment soon

[raw swift]

Wait 180bc???

[zenith thorn]

that's a scam banner

[raw swift]

I don't think it's permanent no

[zenith thorn]

aint that the one that only goes up yo daren

[raw swift]

And also wanshi is free

[mighty tusk]

still scam

[zenith thorn]

yeah

[brave briar]

True
Alright thnks bruv

[zenith thorn]

oh just realised you have r1 empy
yah just save that usb for dsren

or qu

[brave briar]

I'm f2p
So I doubt I will pull for her weapon unless without it she doesn't function at all in a team like daren, empyrea, ice chrome etc

[zenith thorn]

fair

looks like you know your planning,so good lucj

[abstract warren]

how important is the dark team

[quartz dove]

[brave briar]

Thnks

[brave briar]

Well if want to clear dark stage's and get good scores then they re very important

[zenith thorn]

every single team is important

[quartz dove]

[waxen vine]

get no 21 from free a rank selector thank me later

[abstract warren]

i do but no lamia

[raw swift]

My condolences

[waxen vine]

you can get her later if you cant get her now

[raw swift]

In 2 months

[waxen vine]

but no 21 is gonna carry you alot

[raw swift]

Ay SSS

And vera rozen needs to be sss too

[abstract warren]

i have her at s rn

[waxen vine]

nice

[abstract warren]

can she be a replacement for scire?

[abstract warren]

i have capricio as well

[waxen vine]

isnt capriccio better?

[waxen vine]

than you are set just need dark attacker

[raw swift]

Unless she's SSS too with sig and reso, no

Well actually if you run a switch team she might be better

[abstract warren]

i don t have any sss character or sig wep

[waxen vine]

so capriccio is not better unless heavy invested

[raw swift]

ye that's also why gray ravens replaces her on the (budget) teams

[quartz dove]

[waxen vine]

sig weapon from weapon banner 30 is pity limit so you can get it in 30 pulls

[abstract warren]

f2p

[raw swift]

And if u running solo lamia she's not even worth

[abstract warren]

i want watanabe and qu

[waxen vine]

black cards are free given from story events and warzone and pain cage weekly quest

[abstract warren]

isn t it 7.5k per patch?

[raw swift]

Give or take

[waxen vine]

its 2500 for 10 pulls

[abstract warren]

ye but that means i skip characters with i dont really wanna

btw is coop active permanent now?

or just weekend

[empty cargo]

Why does CW use 6x attack on bot slots if class skill gives EDB which is supposedly more valuable than atk

[sleek basin]

every day, but certain time

[raw swift]

It's permanent but you can only access on specific times

[abstract warren]

ohh

[raw swift]

The difference is not really as much as atk

[waxen vine]

well my reasoning to get capriccio just went down the drain no need to go through the pain

[empty cargo]

Hmm okay

[dapper skiff]

It barely 3% more total from 6x class

[jaunty beacon]

Edb is more valuable for non attackers because they don't have any at all. Which is not the case on CW

[dapper skiff]

Atk valued higher because it's flat atk boost

6 atk reso on 6 memories is more than half atk 1 single memory gives

[jade creek]

is it still recommended for crimson abyss to go 4 fredericka/2 darwin?

[raw swift]

Meta

[dapper skiff]

Yeah

There's nothing else she can use

[jade creek]

ohh i see ty

[dapper skiff]

Besides stat stick

[digital moat]

But you need to be able to time the matrix cd well

[raw swift]

Sad to say I used Patton 😦

[jade creek]

ohh i see

[dapper skiff]

Patton pre rework is pretty much pointless now

[digital moat]

Since with 4fred you get a large amount of shred in matrix

[dapper skiff]

With existence of alisa

[jaunty beacon]

The 2 works

[raw swift]

Will any tank use patton in the future?

[dapper skiff]

4 Patton was cope alt so you can actually get better crit on your physical unit because there were no crit buffer back then

[digital moat]

Ss3+ hanying can use it

[jaunty beacon]

Since she's powercrept it doesn't matter that much

[dapper skiff]

The base phys buff wasn't that much

[digital moat]

Balter uses 4patton in some cases

[dapper skiff]

Now Alisa is already released, it's no longer a problem

Post memories rework Patton is really good

Every phys unit can use it well

[digital moat]

But she wants harmo

[quartz dove]

Harmo again

[digital moat]

Just harmo you whel

[raw swift]

Ss0 balter?

[quartz dove]

Im not u with 3 million skulls

[digital moat]

Me -300 skulls

I'm in debt

[somber axle]

Who should I pick from here

[dapper skiff]

Yeah

[digital moat]

Ye ss0 harmo balter uses 4patton 4charl

[dapper skiff]

Rigor top recommendations

[digital moat]

Then she uses random sht with hanying released

[dapper skiff]

Rest are quite average

Not much going on

[raw swift]

I'm so done

[somber axle]

Can I use her as a main DPS?

[dapper skiff]

Temporarily yeah

Until you can get a better physical dps

That actually better

And worth investing

[raw swift]

I just finished hypertune 4charl 2leeu AGAHHHAHHHH

[digital moat]

After the mem rework in qu patch

[dapper skiff]

Not some random s rank from a selector

[dapper skiff]

Everyone did

Worry about it too soon

[raw swift]

Can I still cope with 4charl 2leeu

[digital moat]

I have 4charl 2patton ready for harmonization

[digital moat]

Preferably not xd

[raw swift]

Wait patton bottom right?

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

You will get enough materials to get 2 Patton again by the time memory rework release in global

[merry blaze]

will the black rock shooter fire dps be decent or no? I don't have lee hyperreal yet.

[quartz dove]

Resoing balter memo again...

[raw swift]

Wait I can still replace it my leeu reso aren't finished LETSGOOOO

[quartz dove]

No

[digital moat]

She isnt decent

[dapper skiff]

You can't get higher than A rank without pulling with black cards

[digital moat]

She is bad and palefire is better

[dapper skiff]

So she's barely worth

Palefire is better and cheaper

[raw swift]

Lee Palefire is better and Wata will come after her

I'll get her free copy for display

[dapper skiff]

Although quite hilarious

[raw swift]

Palefire is pretty cope though

[dapper skiff]

If you don't have pulse, use can use brs as 4 DV 2 eins holder in solo wata

[quartz dove]

[digital moat]

Sss Sophia time

[jaunty beacon]

even if palefire is better, people will just solo wata anyway

[raw swift]

My only actually usable fire unit is hyperlee

If I get wata who should I use on the last slot

[dapper skiff]

4 Alphonse 2 cottier wata
4 DV 2 eins brs
4 Guinevere 2 Gloria alisa

[quartz dove]

Empy

[digital moat]

Soph-

[dapper skiff]

Not that shabby

[jaunty beacon]

an amp

[raw swift]

Any amp?

I'll just use alisa

Oh riighhtt since I'll swap between them

[jaunty beacon]

empy is ofc better, but yeah any amp camp work

[dapper skiff]

Palefire qte still doesn't yet deals fire dmg initially

So no eins for you

[merry blaze]

ah okay ty

[dapper skiff]

[quartz dove]

So

Brs use is for qte bot in extremely cope case

[jaunty beacon]

s+ & leap palefire too 💀

[quartz dove]

[jaunty beacon]

for people dumb enough to skip pulse

[storm bay]

where to get hypertune materials?

[dapper skiff]

Someone has to hold eins

[quartz dove]

I have pulse but not her sig do i need it for ppc ?

[dapper skiff]

And nobody's willingly to upgrade Sophia

[raw swift]

Ahh ic

QTE brs it is

[jaunty beacon]

it's only for tryhards

[quartz dove]

Is citizen of na will have that

[jaunty beacon]

you can also gain some damages with 6 class on her

[storm bay]

where to get memory hypertune materials?

[quartz dove]

I got caught off guard by amount of sss+ fish

[jaunty beacon]

since wata would prefer more offensive reso

[dapper skiff]

Your R3 mech still useful in wata team for the fire shred and tank class extend so wata can use dps resos because reso shred is different than normal fire shred

[jaunty beacon]

event, guild and dorm commision mostly

[dapper skiff]

Although

Your s+ Daren should work the same as well

[quartz dove]

R3 mech.

[woven haven]

she has none

[dapper skiff]

5% Edr shred from sss

[woven haven]

gotta leap qu first to get affix

[quartz dove]

Oh yeah i do have daren with human right invesy

[woven haven]

but qu leap so soon is uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

oh yeah btw Ion daren needs DLT to function at base

and even then her orbs are kinda a problem

[jaunty beacon]

please, a leap with superarmor and better orb management 🙏

[merry blaze]

what is a good lee hyperreal team? for a returning player. I came back a month ago or so.

[woven haven]

daren orbs only really fixed at sss3/sss+

for ion usage

[feral pollen]

just get s+ to fix all ur problems

[raw swift]

Nanamech and liv empyrea but nanamech gets replaced in 2 patches

[woven haven]

basically tldr is
Daren needs 9 orbs per rot
first 3 has to be red too

[quartz dove]

Look a this disgusting out of touch whel

[woven haven]

surely u guys can figure out what that means

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

[deft apex]

aetherlao

[abstract warren]

what element is void?

[deft apex]

where's teddy void part

[abstract warren]

dark?

[deft apex]

qte?

[jaunty beacon]

void

[merry blaze]

what if you dont have nanamech? is there any possible replacement or no?

[jaunty beacon]

it's a new one

[abstract warren]

what characters have it

[dapper skiff]

Affix

[feral pollen]

pulse

[raw swift]

Nanami Pulse ig

[jaunty beacon]

luna oblivion

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

basic attack

[livid lark]

teddy and luna only

[merry blaze]

gotcha

[woven haven]

read the overflow zone thing

that's all she has for void

[deft apex]

ok thanks

[merry blaze]

then who could be the third slot? I don't have empryea

[quartz dove]

Teddy subdps for luna???

[jaunty beacon]

lol no

[abstract warren]

who is teddy

[quartz dove]

[raw swift]

Sophia

[feral pollen]

basic aa wtf

what is this 2019?

[quartz dove]

S*phia qte buff moment

[merry blaze]

ah, ty

[raw swift]

Only for QTE tho

[merry blaze]

oh okay

[woven haven]

no the buff is in the basic attack paragraph but QTE can trigger it

[merry blaze]

so don't bother switching to her right?

[raw swift]

No sophia is trash

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/teddy-pgr-a-support-punishing-gray-raven-ultimate-gif-1169468168491681151

[merry blaze]

got it, thank you

[woven haven]

TLDR when teddy heals herself, she deals 2x dmg to void shields (A rank dmg so 0 x 2 is still 0)
if she heals another unit they gain 1.3x void shield dmg (still worse than just buffing with an SSS amp or whatever)

[glass bay]

time hell 18

[velvet hedge]

Hell 0:18

313922

[woven haven]

basically teddy is cope A rank option for void but if you have any sort of invest or luna she's worthless outside of guild (where she's actually pretty respectable)

[quartz dove]

[feral pollen]

teddy s rank when

[opaque ridge]

Teddy heals the enemy

[livid lark]

when she gets a growth spurt like liv

[feral pollen]

teddy but adult

i can sign up for that

[opaque ridge]

Bianca but loli

[woven haven]

Rosetta S rank ice/phys amp soon instead frfr

[quartz dove]

[opaque ridge]

Wut

[quartz dove]

Its fine

Chang who finally s rank

[livid lark]

she becomes mommy

[opaque ridge]

Garnet getting nanami’d soon

[woven haven]

anyone wanna hear the most

absolute crackhead guesses

[feral pollen]

no

[woven haven]

for what kuro has in future

[opaque ridge]

Uncle works at kuro, already know everything

[woven haven]

trust me i am reliable source frfr

[abstract warren]

can anyone explain norman ? like how do i get bc rewards

[opaque ridge]

Norman is a gauntlet of fights u go through, the more u can do, the better

[quartz dove]

U clear the stage then u get the reward

[abstract warren]

these are the fights?

[opaque ridge]

Doing certain stages will disable enemy buffs to make the fights easier

[quartz dove]

Wait why u only have 6 point

[abstract warren]

idk

[opaque ridge]

He started late

[quartz dove]

Oh

[abstract warren]

then how do i claim these

[quartz dove]

Dont use buff simple

[feral pollen]

literally says here how

[abstract warren]

so not activate these?

[woven haven]

We gonna have Lilith Dark/Umbra amp
then Ishmael Void/Disorder amp
then frfr Rosetta Phys/Trueslash amp and Changyu Ice/Glaciate Amp
trust me guys i'm telling the truth

[quartz dove]

[feral pollen]

i can believe first two

[quartz dove]

Killing alisa will make some people mad

[feral pollen]

rosetta is vision of ur poisoned mind

[woven haven]

ok but like

the next replacements are all amps

[quartz dove]

U can use it as long its below 1800

Dont overcap

[woven haven]

besides feral who is the only one who has a chance of getting leap first

[quartz dove]

Thats bias

[woven haven]

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

nah there seems to be like

some internal thing of kuro not leaping free units

so i think capri/kaleido/alisa are relatively soon on chopping board

feral/lamia have leap chance

albeit slightly less than before

[feral pollen]

sophia s rank ice amp it is

[quartz dove]

Lamia already too weak leap does make sense

[velvet agate]

Bad news for feral skipper if true

[feral pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/667197388124848134/1177648257409761401/538017398419226634.gif?ex=65734568&is=6560d068&hm=87065eec710617056ad83ba0e4097edbbf19e8df34ebcde2a603d5a8c456b93d&

[woven haven]

i mean its not even outrageous

[quartz dove]

Ok feral skipping is nowhere as crazy as karen skippinh

[woven haven]

to consider that out of the remaining units

the real left behind ones are the free farmable ones

[quartz dove]

So ur telling me they gonna kill all free amp

[woven haven]

they skipped past capri to leap scire & balt
they skipped past kaleido for cw leap

[raw swift]

free means not bringing in income

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

so its reasonable to assume free units = never getting leap

[raw swift]

not bringing in income = gone

[wind basin]

Free - no rights

[mighty tusk]

how did capriccio even last this long

[quartz dove]

Evil and greedy

[mighty tusk]

she's not even a cashcow anymore

[quartz dove]

This is why hoyo is winning with zzz

[raw swift]

as all things should be

[quartz dove]

My 3.1 kale is ded soon

[woven haven]

so logically
Non replaced/leaped units so far

Capri - Free
Kaleido - Free
Feral - Paid
Alisa - Free
Lamia - Paid

the next to receive leap is either feral or lamia then
but equally likely they get axed too so 50/50

[quartz dove]

Bruh shes free give me a break

[woven haven]

if we start going past the oldest 5 though

the next 2 units on the "potential" chopping board are wata/qu

so lets not go there just yet

[feral pollen]

too early

[quartz dove]

Nah qu isnt even getting skin that show her thigh yet

[woven haven]

she's dead after qu anyways

[quartz dove]

Too early

I know ok

[woven haven]

like kaleido dmg is worthless after qu

[quartz dove]

Atleast my bambi can enter retirement home

[woven haven]

and we still technically have our dear void slots to fill

[raw swift]

my bambi doesn't have a home

[woven haven]

while i doubt we'll see tank filled as of right now i think amp is suitable given that we already know what a void healer would do

[quartz dove]

I dont have plume sir my option is limited

[woven haven]

teddy kit buffing shieldbreak on heal basically

[quartz dove]

They probably dont want to repeat glory "mistake" ever again

So they rather give tank later that turn luna into sub dps

Unless its extreme case of buttfcking like qu

[woven haven]

you know it wouldn't have been like an issue

if kuro didn't release multiple b2b S ranks alongside meta leaps

[raw swift]

What glory mistake

[woven haven]

which means the pace of powercreep has gone exceedingly faster than previous years

[feral pollen]

they release back to back s ranks cuz they need more wuwa funding

[wind basin]

Yeah, they’re went crazy with these meta leaps wth

[feral pollen]

don't kid yourself it's any other way

[woven haven]

if we look at previous years first

[quartz dove]

If u actually pay attention every new tank that come later in element slot usually very powerful dps wise
Garnet to veritas rose to alpha karen to luna

[raw swift]

But glory just subdps

[wind basin]

Glory moment

[quartz dove]

Glory mech isnt the case guess what happen to their team

[raw swift]

Similar to when people got mad when zhongli wasn't a dps

[quartz dove]

I dont give flying fck about that skinn dude

My point is like tank weak gimp ur team

[civic cloud]

ok i need heIp

[quartz dove]

Weak obiviously not really correct term but being awful dps is pain in the butt

[civic cloud]

i harmonized AIisa very first then Iamia second who comes next ?

[quartz dove]

Can he even harmo cw

[woven haven]

2023 Meta stuff:
Lightning Attacker
Lightning Amp
Physical Amp
Dark Attacker
Fire Tank
Ice Attacker

Lightning Tank Leap

Total of 6 units, 1 leap

2024:
Void Annihilator
Physical Tank
Ice Tank
Fire Attacker
Lightning Tank

• 1-2 more S ranks

Fire Amp Leap
Dark Tank Leap
Phys Attacker Leap
Lightning Attacker Leap

6-7 units, 4 leaps alr

[abstract warren]

how bad is the powercreep in this game?

[mighty tusk]

slow in terms of specific element + class

but very drastic

[quartz dove]

Very bad

[feral pollen]

they had to recoup losses from trash wuwa launch and pgr became side project that funds wuwa so that's why such high uptick of s ranks and meta leaps

[civic cloud]

theres oIy sequence given there

[dapper skiff]

Unit replaced after 2 years since debut in general

[woven haven]

every unit gets about 1.5-2+ years of lifespan
powercreep version is absolute and irreplaceable

it means "don't roll old units, only new ones"

and you'll be fine

[quartz dove]

Cant have situation like bennet and kazuha

[woven haven]

old units are cheaper to get anyways

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

usually given for free

[raw swift]

Hyperlee got a little less than 2 years of mets time right

[dapper skiff]

Now some unit having affix binded to them makes them lasting longer than normally

[raw swift]

Entropy got 1 month

[civic cloud]

next harmo ?

heIIo ?

[dapper skiff]

Because they have more usage than before on different element

[mighty tusk]

#📨・meta-help message

[quartz dove]

Uuh how many cycle of clash u clear ?

[civic cloud]

@dapper skiff where is the roIand pic ? your motivation towards cIowning not deep enough

[dapper skiff]

U want me to send my irl face?

[civic cloud]

everything except this patch cause my nightbIadde can onIy yeet 50% of voodoo heaIth at 90secs

[velvet agate]

Yeah although he was already half dead by the time wata came

[dapper skiff]

That should clowning enough

[velvet agate]

The final chopping block for him was lucia

[woven haven]

he got like
1.5 years of actual time

[civic cloud]

no a jester doesnt show his face

[woven haven]

but 0.8 as main dps

cuz wata sat on his spot

[raw swift]

He released pretty early 2022 no?