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[quartz dove]

[glass bay]

[hidden forum]

K whel

[glass bay]

[rose yew]

whels discussion

[onyx palm]

yeah 475k is like the best I can do

[hidden forum]

Investment issue prob

[rose yew]

s0 lamia 5 star be like

[onyx palm]

how did you know?

[rose yew]

[quartz dove]

Miku mocking his fellow f2p

[rose yew]

it's funny because I been piloting someone lamia without realising their ss skill wasn't activated

so basically I been malding with s0 lamia not even s5 passive skill

[glass bay]

omg mikulao pilot

[onyx palm]

derived from matrix is so much harder than cursed waves

[rose yew]

I haven't done any of those

[onyx palm]

but pulls

and hypertune stuff and vouchers

[rose yew]

saving them as emergency funds

[onyx palm]

I have 17k bc

🗣️ 🔥

can't wait for Wata to unbrick my fire wz weeks

[rose yew]

don't forget brs

[onyx palm]

we getting the free one

and then dipping

[deft apex]

A brs vs s+ hyper its obvious who wins

[stiff burrow]

Pulse

[ebon ginkgo]

For the event Sinking Shadows should I just be using up all my serums in one singular mult-challenge???

[onyx palm]

I got Tenebrion from selector

[shadow holly]

its limited to 8 runs at once anyway
but why not
it's just your best serum sink outside of doing story

[feral pollen]

mems reso roulette stage

[ebon ginkgo]

Thanks!

[livid lark]

why

[rose yew]

[onyx palm]

because I convinced myself Pulse was a bad choice because Wata was soon

and there was no chance in me getting Scire anytime soon

[livid lark]

pulse can be used with wata
xxi works better than teneb for f2p

[onyx palm]

with shards, sure

I figured it would take too long to get the shards

[livid lark]

no you dont understand

teneb wont be good even at ss0

and now is the worst time to invest in teneb

literally bricked your account

[onyx palm]

I'm not putting shards into him

[sonic citrus]

Teneb push mobs away.

[shadow holly]

how are we back to this suddenly
ok took Teneb
too late to bother with that

he's already lvl80

[onyx palm]

reroll

[rose yew]

only 80? they should reroll

[shadow holly]

will have to use Sophia to proc eins

[onyx palm]

unironically yes

unbricked

[buoyant hornet]

SS 5* lamia and SSS sig harmo capri can't clear voodoo lmaoooo

[livid lark]

wait he discussed this before?

[buoyant hornet]

Amazing so they didn't fix voodoo on the first rotation but also not on the second

[shadow holly]

yea

[rose yew]

got off rated on lamia wep?

[buoyant hornet]

Didn't even try to get it

[rose yew]

[buoyant hornet]

I need wata and/or qu sigs and I'm f2p

They literally need it to feel playable lmao

[livid lark]

f2p actually no rights

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao yea

[rose yew]

guess I'll go left then

[livid lark]

i think for your sanity maybe consider qu sig

[onyx palm]

yes

[livid lark]

but then again...

[rose yew]

can solo qu clear voodoo tho

[quartz dove]

[buoyant hornet]

What's annoying is that even my SS phys team can't clear voodoo because alisa doesn't have sig/harmo

[rose yew]

w/o tank sig

[quartz dove]

Use lamia

[buoyant hornet]

Ice?

[rose yew]

mhm

[buoyant hornet]

Ice qu is stronger than lamia so it makes sense

Although sounds like mald party with her lack of i frames

[livid lark]

we'll have to see

[rose yew]

what

[livid lark]

not to mention the rng with her core

thats the worst part of her kit

[buoyant hornet]

OR maybe we'd actually be able to see who's supposed to be able to clear voodoo if kuro fixed their damn game

Got fixed week 1 on cn but global getting trashed as usual

[rose yew]

I just realised light team won't be modified for the next 1.5 year

[buoyant hornet]

Yep

[livid lark]

1

or 1.1

[buoyant hornet]

I mean not 1.5 but also a bit more than 1

[quartz dove]

What

[rose yew]

1 year of no feral I can deal with that

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[livid lark]

no way cn is 1.5

[quartz dove]

I thought u can fix that

[livid lark]

i meant the orbs to trigger core

[rose yew]

well technically cw still not replaced from cn yet so it's guaranteed to be longer than 1.1

[quartz dove]

Oh god

[rose yew]

wait I keep forgetting abt nanaknight

[shadow holly]

not like it's a worry for you, you get sss

SSS for qu is basically SS3 Kaleido
you do one core you get buffs from both cores

[river nymph]

[quartz dove]

Always accusing me

[shadow holly]

ok mb just get SSS to not worry about rng
if you want ✨

[serene frigate]

how do I beat the 3rd route first boss (voice of authority or smth) on derived from matrix? first 10 healthbars are fine, after that he just gains a bunch of shield and you just keep losing hp from across the map. is there some dialogue choice I need to pick?

oh and if this is the wrong channel lmk

[livid lark]

just dps harder

[quartz dove]

Eklao villain arc

[livid lark]

theres really not much you can do

pgr doesnt really have gimmick bosses

or gimmick content

[quartz dove]

Hes asking about dfm

[livid lark]

yea ik

[quartz dove]

Idk maybe 3 signa stack can help ?

[livid lark]

they never did it with rdf or cursed waves

maybe? but that doesnt change the boss

just makes it easier to deal damage

have to kill the boss faster

[serene frigate]

ok but like
how to kill 90 healthbars (plus whatever shield idk) when you're getting insta-deleted? it took all of feral's shield from across the field lol
i tried reading the guy's description but my constructs were getting deleted too quickly
using the same build idea that worked great in the other endings, so idk if dps is the issue here

[livid lark]

just retry i guess

or get the buffs at the beginning for using units more

will get easier overtime

[quartz dove]

I mean there is guide for dfm

[livid lark]

where

[shadow holly]

authority is uhh amberia right

[serene frigate]

where?

[serene frigate]

i dont know what amberia is

[shadow holly]

cause idk I've never struggled with that boss even at 2.5x

it's the big robot with nun lady head

[serene frigate]

yeah i think so? looks like a big spiky blob, makes the ground glow red, etc

[shadow holly]

yeah that

[quartz dove]

Wait whats ko name in this discord

[shadow holly]

what team are you using, what memories did you get, and on which difficulty in dfm are you playing

[quartz dove]

I cant find him

[shadow holly]

it's not guaranteed he's even present in pgro

[ebon ginkgo]

Hi as a day 3 newbie with Lamia, what should I be buying from the event shop?

[serene frigate]

what did you do then?
ive been using feral because shes fun, and then a rank liv+chrome just to fill the other two slots
memories, i just try whatever i think works well with feral and slap the support ones on everyone else
orb refresh, signature boost, damage, hp sacrifice etc.
tried more than once, this is the same thing i used for the other two endings though

[shadow holly]

whatever you need to progress your account really
mats to raise chars, memories to build your chars, etc etc
ofc prio building your Lamia since you've got her

[serene frigate]

difficulty? isnt the only available one for 3rd ending the hardest?

[ebon ginkgo]

I'm not sure what memories are good.. all of the limited derketos? Davinci?

[shadow holly]

no

[shadow holly]

you can refer to grayravens.com for mostly correct builds for everyone
do keep in mind to read build details tho

[serene frigate]

oh ok

but yeah i was on 2.5x i think

[ebon ginkgo]

Oh right okay I'll get the info from builds. Thanks!

[glass bay]

Omg asking globful to read again

[shadow holly]

considering 2.5x gives the enemies really inflated stats you probably just didn't get good enough equipment to be able to do it with solo feral

[serene frigate]

oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow holly]

are you using your own feral or a trial one

[serene frigate]

trial, i dont have my own feral yet (might get it from blue card thing im still deciding)

[quartz dove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Ves3NSyv1TY031TwJ2SEHpe63c376khDNdRu53XgV3g/htmlview

[livid lark]

2.5x diff also recommends 7k bp units

[quartz dove]

Thats dfm guide

[onyx palm]

oh yeah question. what memories do trial characters use?

[serene frigate]

whats the difference
isnt trial maxed?

[shadow holly]

oh
trials are really weak too
it's not surprising at all that you couldn't do anything

[livid lark]

no

[serene frigate]

i thought trial was maxed ._.
what is trial then

[livid lark]

trials are like s rank i think

[shadow holly]

but trial is base S
with only sig and no resos

idk if trials are ultima awakened even

[quartz dove]

Trial is base s with sig only s+ in unit testing

[livid lark]

a 7k bp unit is ss0 with sig

[serene frigate]

i thought trial was s rank with 6 star memories and signature weapon
is it not?

[shadow holly]

yeah but that's like
bare minimum

[livid lark]

yea that still isnt 7k

[serene frigate]

huh

[shadow holly]

and that's not enough lmao

[serene frigate]

wait so how do you get higher then

[livid lark]

thats like 5.7k i think

you build your own

[shadow holly]

6* memories are baseline
you still need memory resos, hypertunes

[serene frigate]

yeah but like
if you cant get copies of the character, then how to raise it

[quartz dove]

U get to ss0

[livid lark]

you can get copies

[serene frigate]

what is ss0

[livid lark]

just 1

[shadow holly]

it's just SS
without any additional nodes

[livid lark]

ss0 is the rank
you can get from ppc

you get char shards there

[quartz dove]

Another copy for ss3 two more copy for sss0 two more for sss3 and then so on

[shadow holly]

anyway just play on 2x if ur using trials

[serene frigate]

oh yeah those things
i havent used those things yet so i have a bunch waiting
but i heard one duplicate is pretty much useless? like everyone was saying i need 2 duplicates for scire and 1 wouldnt do anything

[shadow holly]

on 2.5x difficulty even I have failed a run and my chars are pretty well raised

[livid lark]

no?

where did you get that

ss0 is required for a unit to function

[shadow holly]

that's only Scire situation

[livid lark]

properly

[serene frigate]

oh
ok then

[raw swift]

Which means that scire need ss3 to function normally, f2p can skip

Oh wait

Why this sounds so familiar

[shadow holly]

[quartz dove]

Only scire situation for now

[serene frigate]

minor tangent here
speaking of scire, do we know when she's getting a standard banner? trying to choose for the blue card banner between getting her to ss3 or getting feral ._.

[quartz dove]

Feral base s

[shadow holly]

you should never pull arrival anyway

your highest priority is always getting all the debut units first

[quartz dove]

I think hes talking about standard select

[shadow holly]

you can get scire on the Luna patch selector because feral is not present there

and use standard rateup for feral

[quartz dove]

Every single selector for bianca copy

[serene frigate]

oh ok
cool thanks

[serene frigate]

👍

[glass bay]

Imagine having rights

[onyx palm]

I don't know what it's like

[glass bay]

Me neither

[quartz dove]

[glass bay]

[serene frigate]

wait
but what if im skipping one
is there another reason not to pull arrival or

[shadow holly]

there is no reason to skip anyone in the first place

[fathom hazel]

What are good s ranks with crimson weave as dps?

[shadow holly]

if you skip a unit you should be prepared for it to have a very negative impact on your account

[quartz dove]

Feral and garnet

[flint monolith]

does urban cohort EU still have space

[quartz dove]

Omg uc

[serene frigate]

its ok i dont play every day so i dont usually have the 15k pulls every 2 patches or whatever it is supposed to be
and my account is going to have negative impacts anyways because i skipped some patches for scire skin and used a selector on capricio lol

but like is arrival actually bad or is it just considering the negative impacts

[shadow holly]

yeah a lot

just dm ew

[quartz dove]

F2p with scire skin

Now i feel poor

[serene frigate]

and yeah ik this isnt really the right channel for me because im not going for meta always but like i dont know where else to ask questions :(

[shadow holly]

it's more so just arrival being really bad in comparison to debut banners because it's not guaranteed to even get the char you want

[quartz dove]

Its fine atleast ur self aware

[serene frigate]

wait its not guaranteed?
oh wait yeah right its 70

[shadow holly]

while skipping a newer unit cannot be compensated for by getting an older one

[quartz dove]

Ofc its not

[shadow holly]

70% rateup
not 100%

[quartz dove]

Bro read the banner description

[serene frigate]

nah i just got told all that stuff last time i asked a question here and mentioned my account status lol :/

[shadow holly]

if you want to backpull with 100% rates then you gotta wait til anniversary or wishing banner

[quartz dove]

I need brightpath

[serene frigate]

oh ok
ill look those up 👍

[quartz dove]

I cant belive i say this but i actually need ot

[shadow holly]

anniversary banner is just around global anniversary date - mid-late july
one was on Alisa patch so it will be a while til next one
wishing banner is usually ran around half anniversary date

so should be somewhere in January ig?

[serene frigate]

oh ok cool
couldnt find the dates so thats super helpful lol
thanks

[quartz dove]

Bro where u even get this

[livid lark]

trophy room

[quartz dove]

There is no way people still make this mistake

[livid lark]

someone did yea

[quartz dove]

[glass bay]

[raw swift]

Someone posted it, not mine

I see brick I save

[livid lark]

bricks for brickistan

[cerulean grotto]

@raw swift if you want more copypasta, see nightshade recent comments in gen chat

[livid lark]

OMG YES

those are some pretty good ones

[slender aurora]

shouldve critted harder

[slender aurora]

yeah like that

[shadow holly]

[visual topaz]

I guess that's max score for non harmo 3s fire in eu

Unless Hue malds it

[cerulean grotto]

[rugged cloud]

Having a norman run that felt awesome, but you forgot to pass the DV

so your QTE blundered

the dalaos here probably have multiple DV sets

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

it's all you can get once your units are all built with perfect reso

[rugged cloud]

damn
I'm still at a stage where even leveling memories feel expensive

[low loom]

Hi all, im kinda new to the game, i saw in the "Base" banner a character selection option, i have 9400 base tickets, and i REALLY want crimson weave, if i select her and pull am i guaranteed to get her? Idk how this banner works

[livid lark]

as long as you can hit the pity for that particular banner with base tickets yea

i highly recommend not using your black cards for this banner

but yes it's 100% guarantee

[low loom]

Fr? Thats great! Last time i played the game was months ago when crimson's banner was up and i got busy and didnt get enough tickets to get her, i thought i wouldnt be able to get her again unless they rerun her

Another question, since i can also choose an A rank who should i pick?

[buoyant hornet]

If empy main dps should I harmo darwin or gui hmmmm

I'm guessing darwin until wata right?

[livid lark]

yea

[buoyant hornet]

Which

[livid lark]

darwin

[buoyant hornet]

I think darwin will benefit her more

Aight cool

[livid lark]

i would say guin but im thinking way ahead lmao

i just want wata to drop soon

[livid lark]

didn't you get a rank selectors

[low loom]

I did

[livid lark]

did you use them

[low loom]

I dont remember

Ill check rn

[shadow holly]

probably get Arclight and lux from standard since u won't get cw before them anyway
and XXI + Rozen from selectors

[low loom]

I have these two

[livid lark]

for the s rank one pick rosetta

for the a rank one i recommend xxi

[low loom]

noted

I was asking about the A rank on the Base banner

[livid lark]

get all the tank units

[shadow holly]

[low loom]

I just got vera A rank

[river nymph]

[low loom]

Can i swap the A rank to someone else and pull? It wont miss with my pity will it?

[shadow holly]

and yeah Changyu and Bambi for ice are good pickups from standard after you get lightning teammates for cw

[shadow holly]

no it won't

[low loom]

Alright

[shadow holly]

it just switches your a rank rateup and that's it

[river nymph]

[slender aurora]

idk if bambi is a good recommend atp tbh, even for newcomers

qu is relatively soon

[shadow holly]

there are no better options really

fire is dead til wata anyway

[slender aurora]

id just solo kale atp

you need giga invest in bambi to make her decent

[shadow holly]

solo cow unplayable

[slender aurora]

and i doubt bros getting bambi to at least SSS3 in 3 months

[low loom]

Whats the fastest way to get base tickets for a beginner? I just need 14 more pulls to get crimson weave

[slender aurora]

is swapping into an SS bambi any better?

[shadow holly]

ss3 is enough to make Bambi decent

[shadow holly]

Bambi is gonna do more damage than cow autoattacks

[shadow holly]

it's mostly just in the beginner missions
it should be more than enough to hit the beginner 40 pity

[slender aurora]

alr when you put it like that 😭

i understand now

[lament walrus]

Hello what's Alisa's build?

[slender aurora]

4 signa 4 dv

[livid lark]

harmo or no

[shadow holly]

4signa 2dv + 2 DV harmo

if no harmo the build is the same anyway

[lament walrus]

Don't have harmo atm

[livid lark]

true

ok yea follow trs

[low loom]

Just to make sure, the base banner doesnt change right? After u select an S rank i mean

[shadow holly]

nuh uh follow eklao

[shadow holly]

wdym by change here

[livid lark]

how am i a lao

[rugged cloud]

[livid lark]

me fake 1%

[shadow holly]

I got my first 1% only like 3 weeks ago

[low loom]

It wont change the characters after some time, it will always have the two characters i chose until i pull them or change them myself

[shadow holly]

oh well yeah
the S rank selection pool does update as the standard banner pool updates
every S rank character 2 patches old is added there

[livid lark]

after you get your selected s rank it goes away

you only get to choose it once

[shadow holly]

and A ranks enter standard pool immediately on release

[low loom]

Well thats great, so i have a chance to get the old S ranks i missed

[shadow holly]

albeit they still have 100% rateup on standard banner selection on their debut, akin to S ranks on their themed banners on their patch

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/946772686275768340.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[low loom]

Cant wait to get crimson and Vera garnet

[stuck sphinx]

goodbye gh

[shadow holly]

tbf u can't rly get Garnet without sacrificing getting debut units
if you're already planning to pick cw on standard

[shadow holly]

[low loom]

Is it worth using black cards just to hit pity sooner? I only rlly want CW

I dont care much about the new characters

[rugged cloud]

nope

even if you get CW, you gotta have resources to build her

Just be patient

[low loom]

Ig i have to grind the game to get base tickets

[shadow holly]

so casual right
cause just fyi u rly want teams of all elements else you'll be struggling in some stuff

[rugged cloud]

*and resources
leveling and memories are quite expensive

[shadow holly]

and ofc if teams not up to date no good scores

[low loom]

Classic gacha

[livid lark]

no good scores -> fewer rewards -> struggle in content later down the line

[low loom]

Oh boy that sounds fun

[livid lark]

this game punishes you more tho

[river nymph]

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-cat-demiaowa-hello-street-cat-gif-14005121929265449159

[shadow holly]

considering you can get cw without sabotaging your future units it's not like you have a reason to skip anyone

[low loom]

Staying true to the name ig

[shadow holly]

so it's kinda your choice if you suddenly decide to take bad decisions

because at baseline just keeping up to date isn't hard

and then people start thinking about pulling arrival or whatever

[low loom]

i know we can get every new S rank on release because the game gives us enough tickets

[steady otter]

knight

[rugged cloud]

trslao
should I get Alisa and Rose to SS using vouchers?https://huaxu.app/players/ap/14237304/characters
Or save?
lemme take a look at my voucher stash

[low loom]

Thanks for the help yall

[livid lark]

rose you can get free shards

[shadow holly]

yeah so it's only really on their own volition that people ruin their accounts by skipping

[livid lark]

bp gives when you buy

alisa for vouchers tho

[rugged cloud]

I got 20K vouchers
how many shards are sold for a discount per month?

[shadow holly]

20

[rugged cloud]

then buy all 20?

[livid lark]

yea

if you can obviously

[rugged cloud]

16K
it's not like there's a higher prio rn, right?

[livid lark]

kaleido if you havent

i would say no besides that

[rugged cloud]

have not
kale first?

[livid lark]

kale at least to ss0

ss3 doesn't really change things much

it's either ss0 or sss0

[rugged cloud]

goodbye vouchers

[livid lark]

are you a BP buyer?

if so then yea ofc get kaleido then alisa shards

[rugged cloud]

planning to get one this month, but probably not every month

[livid lark]

hmm also consider it for leap units

scire is a good one for obvious reasons

then save for wanshi

[dapper skiff]

Morning

[livid lark]

morning

[rugged cloud]

morning

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-pgr-pgr-good-morning-pgr-lucia-lucia-pgr-gif-5391777794187838422

[steady otter]

ss0 = mix orb hold atk + same orb hold atk = max buff
need to be different orb at ss0
but ss3 remove that

[livid lark]

i would say it's not as important as getting ss0 for alisa first

[dapper skiff]

What ss0 remove what

[livid lark]

kaleido

for her colour buff to work from core you need 1 colour mix of the same and then 1 colour mix of different

[dapper skiff]

[livid lark]

if you have ss3 that req goes away

[dapper skiff]

live reaction

[thorn creek]

this is news?

[steady otter]

you too whale, u dont need that info

[thorn creek]

global no reed

[livid lark]

global too scrub anyway

[dapper skiff]

I didn't even got 580k tb

What kind of whel am i

Smh my head

[steady otter]

lazy whale

[thorn creek]

not big enough whel

[steady otter]

1rc top up already whale

[thorn creek]

either all in or none

[shadow holly]

SS3 cow op
SS0 literally can't use Cottie properly
because you only do 1 core in PPC so you lose out on one buff by default

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/702380971474944030.gif?v=1

[shadow holly]

plus it's stupid fugin orb mald to get both cores

[stuck sphinx]

Windbellao

[steady otter]

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[shadow holly]

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[thorn creek]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-ltg-mods-low-tier-god-citizenship-gif-17696204686494766899

also windbell cool

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/emang-babi-kau-ini-gif-22277749

[livid lark]

oh look at that
buddy can't even play the game well and he says that brs is stronger than palefire

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1173499507690967040/glitchdawn.gif

[dapper skiff]

Bruh

That delusional guy again

Is he still here?

[steady otter]

who tf playing with base S rank now days
bruh do your ppc, get your SS

[livid lark]

he hasn't left lmao

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-party-gif-11781022180037669995

[livid lark]

i'd rather he not leave so I can watch him be a clown

[dapper skiff]

[carmine reef]

My favorite part is that he said hyper is playable at S

[shadow holly]

not even that
he said hyper is op

[livid lark]

bruh even gen chat is clowning on him

that's how you know you made some real funni takes

@cerulean grotto scroll up

[cerulean grotto]

Here or gen chat?

[livid lark]

here

well or gen chat up to you

[shadow holly]

#📨・meta-help message

#💬・pgr-general message

[cerulean grotto]

Wasn't I the one told you to see that

[livid lark]

i didn't get any ping from you lol

[shadow holly]

#💬・pgr-general message
this is peak comedy

[cerulean grotto]

Well to jambu actually but ye you get it

[livid lark]

i saved that already

i knew he was a clown but i didn't know he was skk no 2

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

is broken just survivability for him
so bad man can't dodge?

[stuck sphinx]

mind break

[cerulean grotto]

At least skk could dodge I believe

[dapper skiff]

Oh deer lord, if it wasn't the consequences of my actions of skipping because they said so

[cerulean grotto]

[river nymph]

deer lord

[stuck sphinx]

deer lord

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Oh shi

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/しかのこのこのここしたんたん-shika-noko-noko-koshitantan-とらこ-虎子-you-deer-gif-14524014536672925431

[river nymph]

lingya is the deer lord

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-nokotan-my-deer-friend-nokotan-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-9850497477868508242

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/my-deer-friend-nokotan-noko-gif-8572995088102458386

I've had too much shikanokonokokoshitanta

Autocorrect agrees, it's now deer

:caught:

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1188137462074200204.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenavibe

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/feeding-the-deer-viralhog-using-head-to-feed-the-deer-deer-gif-11720948940846223510

[rough mica]

oh my deer lord

[quiet lily]

sproink

[rough mica]

:susge:

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-gif-23612003

[rough mica]

[shadow holly]

[quiet lily]

[mighty tusk]

Anyone tried using dark against CR voodoo? Did it result in more time to spare?

[dapper skiff]

Dark swap?

Obviously

Lamia solo
Nu uh

[shadow holly]

phys still op on this rot

[summer topaz]

wat no solo supremacy

[mighty tusk]

Gabriel says hi

[quiet lily]

phys sweep

[ebon pebble]

can construct get pregnant

[stuck sphinx]

[quiet lily]

[rugged cloud]

[shadow holly]

[barren plank]

[dapper skiff]

Only if they have wombforce STX 4090i installed

[mighty tusk]

^this gremlin would like to have a word with you

[dapper skiff]

[ebon pebble]

yeah

[dapper skiff]

_ _

_ _

*poof

[ebon pebble]

Get pregnant

[thorn creek]

Constructs? Pregnant?

[rugged cloud]

[thorn creek]

If possible with Lamia, i'd support

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[fair field]

SS lamia or cw first?

[ebon pebble]

Lamia

Pregnant

[steady otter]

[mighty tusk]

Cw, because base s cw does not hit hard unlike lamia

Meanwhile lamia ult hits hard even below ss

[thorn creek]

but it'd hit even harder with SS

[shadow holly]

yea you just need cub

[mighty tusk]

Meanwhile base s cw with cub still tickles enemies

[rare badge]

oh i missed comedy

[mighty tusk]

Base s cw = no rights
Base s lamia = some rights

[ebon pebble]

who comedy

[thorn creek]

feesh superior

[rare badge]

btw how many codex visitors do we get in restaurant?

[mighty tusk]

[thorn creek]

i think it stops after the missions are done no?

i haven't gotten new requests today

[rare badge]

whow as the last one qu right?

[thorn creek]

ye

[rare badge]

gud

then i'm done too

Look at this whale

69558 Balter BP

[fair field]

What is uniframe shop? Can we buy characters from it?

[pine slate]

No

[vital nova]

it sells mats for upgrading uniframes

doesn't have any use if u don't have any uniframes

[fair field]

Is the cub u get for free any good? How do I get more other than summoning?

[raw swift]

Not as strong as s ranks, only by pulling

[fair field]

What to buy with trade vouchers?

[pine slate]

Character shards

[fair field]

We can get charectars or shards for the ones we have

[rare badge]

You can get new ones but only some units get put in that shop.
New ones are added after leap or if the character was free (example of wanshi and ayla)

[fair field]

Which one is worth getting in there?

[rare badge]

Depends on who you're missing.
Consider that unlocking a unit is 50 shards at 804

a f2p gets 2k vouchers from BP + depends on events

[fair field]

So it's impossible to get charectars from it almost?

[rare badge]

as f2p it takes a while. if you buy BP it's doable

did you get alisa echo and kaleido from dorm shop?

[fair field]

No

[rare badge]

https://huaxu.app/players
Select your server and put your id in this and post the link in here, it'll show us what you have

[rare badge]

pasting the link in chat is easier

[river nymph]

[fair field]

I started 3-4 days ago I made an account a year ago but didn't stick with it then

[sand laurel]

[river nymph]

account looks good so far ngl

lamia in 4 days is crazy

unless whel

[rare badge]

For now focus on getting Alisa Echo then Kaleido from dorm shop
Did you use the selector on base banner already?

[river nymph]

[quiet lily]

[fair field]

I checked dorm shop no charectars there

[river nymph]

need to check the commissions shop in the dorm

[rare badge]

^

[shy bane]

Dispatch shop

[delicate isle]

[hazy sandal]

:sadchorry:

[rare badge]

get echo from dorm shop, use vouchers to slowly bring her to SS

[shadow holly]

[delicate isle]

[river nymph]

[river nymph]

do you want the link?

[hazy sandal]

Gib

[fair field]

Ok

[hazy sandal]

[shadow holly]

xeno's personal gooning server

[river nymph]

kk sent dm

[hazy sandal]

[river nymph]

yay

[hazy sandal]

Yay

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

[river nymph]

[rare badge]

in guild exploration "clear rugged" means wipe the map or kill the boss?

guild died, need to minmax

[shadow holly]

killing the boss clears the map

[rare badge]

fair enough

[shadow holly]

and i mean it also auto completes all the nodes

[river nymph]

rip guild

[rare badge]

EU

[shadow holly]

[rare badge]

not much i can do

[river nymph]

join uc

[shadow holly]

time to join goon hort

[river nymph]

[rare badge]

the hell is that

[river nymph]

urbangoons

[shadow holly]

some dead people in the guild too but ig at least a lot of whales

ew corpsekeeping

[river nymph]

guys

less than three weeks until brick rock shooter

[shadow holly]

lets goo

jambu is going to be showering in screenshots

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Bricking up?

[rare badge]

do urbagoons actually mald guild boss? or just exploration

[dapper skiff]

[cerulean grotto]

[thorn creek]

Lamia skippers for BRS

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

wdym
we clear it good enough at least

[thorn creek]

The reason you should skip lamia is because Black Rock Shooter is coming next patch, so lamia's patch should be used as a saving patch. As you all know we only get one shot at pulling black rock shooter and her sig weapon, BRS out damages lamia at SSS, Brs is just essential for fire team and the upcoming Watanabe epitaph, pulling for lamia is unwise and is a bad move.

[rare badge]

Why even lamia? different elements
Put midcia/watanabe in the copypasta

[quiet lily]

Who do you honestly think you are threatening , i and everyone have the right to free speech. I'm not wrong for recommending people to pull an extremely limited charecter. People will severly regret not investing in this charecter. Meta can go to hell, this is about paying respect to a literally dead franchise and an iconically well designed charecter. Getting one copy and keeping the charecter shelved isn't respect. Watanabe can be pulled for anytime.

[dapper skiff]

That nightblade dude going to have the best time of his life

From getting banned

[rose yew]

brs is a qol must have unit
not only is her orb animation fast you can cancel it to get even more energy
at ss she already have sufficient energy to tap into signature move without delay and is already doing more damage than hyperreal. her damage jumps even higher when she's sss
Hyperreal barely does damage outside of his sig move
BRS on the other hand gives consistent damage that's on par with hyperreal
Hence brs >> hyperreal in warzone

[shadow holly]

wtf ge boss so fat on third difficulty

lvl 3 could still 2s

lvl5 stats need to swap and do core orb too

[pine slate]

Can u 3s

[quiet lily]

[thorn creek]

just say u r completely BROKE AF + need to use Ur Mom's Credit Card to recharge since u still a kiddo man. Like all above people say, it's Okay to skip it if u r BROKE AF. No need to tell global full details about ur financial issue. Smh

[quartz dove]

F2p party

[pine slate]

@cerulean grotto was telling me how his invest was like 5 bars off 3s

[rose yew]

[thorn creek]

[quiet lily]

dalao please be patient with me. I picked up this game 2 months ago and today i spent 6 hours on ppc today because i was trying to ask around and understand how to min max frames on a new class, and i think i will be burned out if i tried to invest similar playtime in wz too and learn how to properly play all these classes for each rot that doesn't last even 3 days. at least ppc gives me a full week and since i'm too busy with a work project so i figured i can get pay someone to help me retain legend wz cuz i value people's skill and time. You once told me that retaining legend doesn't matter, which is true, but this account is so scuffed that i'm low on resources and this i have terrible fomo esp with bianca that i need to pre-farm. I still have to fix resos on like 6 characters and i'm max refreshing serum everyday and it makes me sad if i can't keep up with patches :biancaded:

[cerulean grotto]

I showed video too

[thorn creek]

This guy wasted so much money on this game that can buy a decent house in my country.

[cerulean grotto]

You just kinda need to do qte asap after tidal orb

Then 4 x 3 pings should be enough if you have amp resos

[quartz dove]

dalao please be patient with me. I picked up this game 2 months ago and today i spent 6 hours on ppc today because i was trying to ask around and understand how to min max frames on a new class, and i think i will be burned out if i tried to invest similar playtime in wz too and learn how to properly play all these classes for each rot that doesn't last even 3 days. at least ppc gives me a full week :Deadge: and since i'm too busy with a work project so i figured i can get pay someone to help me retain legend wz cuz i value people's skill and time. You once told me that retaining legend doesn't matter, which is true, but this account is so scuffed that i'm low on resources and this i have terrible fomo esp with bianca that i need to pre-farm. I still have to fix resos on like 6 characters and i'm max refreshing serum everyday and it makes me sad if i can't keep up with patches :biancaded:

[river nymph]

bar 1 op

[cerulean grotto]

I hate people who act like they don't care about anything and make fun of people who do, "chill out lmao, why so mad, go touch grass, go out more"
If you don't care then just stay quiet, don't downplay people's passions

[rare badge]

is the strat to go trial + lamia or should i go with a fully built team

[thorn creek]

upcoming anniversary unit trust

[river nymph]

[pine slate]

Everyone does that bro

If u don't dv after tidal asap then lamia doesn't deal as much dmg

[cerulean grotto]

Idk why you lacking damage then

[pine slate]

It goes for all lamia rots

[cerulean grotto]

Coz 17 bars is wild

[quartz dove]

Dalao debate

[pine slate]

Ur GE is 3rd diff?

[hazy sandal]

Thx

[thorn creek]

Nah fr tho, I have a great day looking at pgr gph arguments, makes me feel there are more stupid people than me on this planet. Makes my ego inflate

[cerulean grotto]

Rugged difficulty with 3 paths and max hp boss ye

[shadow holly]

seems possible with another 3ping but its very cringe orb mald
i no one has fkin GA instead of dlt on fish

[cerulean grotto]

Middle difficulty even I can do 2s

[shadow holly]

i need to try with iza's fish

[cerulean grotto]

No ga is rip

[quartz dove]

Ga ?

[shadow holly]

ok this was wantap surprisingly

[cerulean grotto]

Afterglow

[shadow holly]

even looked like a decent overkill

[cerulean grotto]

Ye, just gitgud

[rare badge]

Btw how many of you still have L2D Celica around?

[cerulean grotto]

No thanks I need that sticker more

[shadow holly]

i have mine in mentor screen smh

yeah ok 3s is very doable

guess that fish was bricked or something

[cerulean grotto]

Told ya

[livid lark]

nah you should have got one of nightshade's copypastas instead

[cerulean grotto]

[cerulean grotto]

You really like them huh?

[thorn creek]

which?

[livid lark]

it's comedy

[quiet lily]

Maybe it's just me, but certain charecters are unplayable at base S, lamia takes way to much damage, my current lamia is at 63'ksomething battle power and still takes a ton of damage. Only people usable at base S are Lee hyperreal and crimson weave. I feel like lamia will only be usable at SSS+ with SIG weapon RS3

bros a walking pasta

[livid lark]

That's very bad advice, he should start saving for BRS. Just a reminder that people literally cried for missing out on neir team and they try to cope by saying balter is strong and neir team was trash. He is better of saving for BRS.

[stuck sphinx]

Will test her out, and if she's okay might actually pull. Just a week of grinding and I would get her. Alphas weapon set me back few good weeks. I'm at 8100 bc and have 5500 orange tickets. If I'm not comfortable with her will skip and Save for brs patch. People saying you can just get her at A don't understand, she will have low damage potential. At A . I just wish they could do a neir rerun. This fomo is why I will get BRS to S rank at least. This charecter is never coming back. Just to keep her as a trophy is just discrepectful.

[quiet lily]

I know people are saving for Q and Watanabe, but to everyone please pull black rock shooter for me and get her to S. I might not play this game until the next 2-5 years. Electricity situation has gone to sh*t, it's literally 20 hours now. If everyone could pull her just to S that would honestly be enough for me. I'm sorry for living in a third world country, and honestly I'm sorry I couldn't pull for her.

[cerulean grotto]

She staying a trophy even at s+ buddy

[thorn creek]

Free to play have rights to post, beaters who pay don't have a right. It's demoralizing for people who don't have money

[rare badge]

This is still going?

[mighty tusk]

Yes

[shadow holly]

this sounds like reddit mindset
i remember one time ew posted his CR clear record and in the end comments were just
oh, just whale smh

[stuck sphinx]

Is that some kind of threat, I'm an expert, i know the advice I'm recommending

[cerulean grotto]

Wtf this pasta suits here so perfectly

[cerulean grotto]

Wtf fr?

Send link

[shadow holly]

i dont have it
its been a while

[cerulean grotto]

They don't know that whels need to mald more smh

[river nymph]

my bf claimed the last one do she left me

i miss her “hi”s

[rare badge]

depresso'd

[quiet lily]

[nova forum]

Just wait for playable celica

Hopium of the highest degree

[quartz dove]

Celica omega frame

Have timestop when orb ping core and ult

[rose yew]

rewind time nya

[steady otter]

HI3 have ai chan playable
Celica pgr playable why not

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1193541472058888282.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=lamiawiggle

[silent ore]

Do memories not have random stats? Or am I stupid?

[ebon pebble]

impregnate

[rose yew]

stats are fixed, the resonance are not

[silent ore]

Uh,,, right... time to look up whatever that means lmao

I found grayravens dot com while looking things up. Is it a good site to follow as a noob? 🤔

[livid lark]

yes-ish

some of their memory set recommendations are wrong though

[silent ore]

Any others you recommend?

[livid lark]

there is none besides being here or on any community server with experienced pgr players

[cerulean grotto]

Blud is thirsty asf

[livid lark]

you could look at snazz and windbell but like thats really it

[silent ore]

Fair, but I also don't want to spam the chats with dumb questions 💀

[vocal lynx]

Is it possible to beat this persons Fire WZ score?

[livid lark]

chat's usually ded at this time

[cerulean grotto]

Better than spamming this

[livid lark]

what spam lmao

[sand laurel]

[vocal lynx]

He stole my 1st place Elite bracket 😞

[cerulean grotto]

[sand laurel]

bot suspect

[livid lark]

but thats a whale though

[shadow holly]

asking questions in help chat is not spamming

[vocal lynx]

Still… I beat Whales

[livid lark]

you werent going to beat that fire team

[vocal lynx]

Is it possible? 😭😭😭

[livid lark]

ofc

[jaunty beacon]

But pasta trend is 😔

[cerulean grotto]

What do you think

[rare badge]

since when is grayravens misinfo

[livid lark]

if the whale is super casual and doesnt know how to play

[jaunty beacon]

Long time tbf

[cerulean grotto]

^

[livid lark]

gray ravens kaleido build had 4 aline 2 darwin as main build

[cerulean grotto]

That's why I always ask here

[livid lark]

was supposed to be cottie

[vocal lynx]

😭😭😭😭

My 1ST place down the drain

[rare badge]

wasn't there a neat build sheet somewhere

[vocal lynx]

Pics before disaster

[cerulean grotto]

You're a new player right?

[vocal lynx]

No?

[jaunty beacon]

It's not huge since the majority is correct. But sometimes, there's some mistakes lost within

[cerulean grotto]

Seen you in leader a few times

[livid lark]

it's ok
just wait for wata

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

that's your chance to be better

[vocal lynx]

I am a very old player c:

[livid lark]

because glooba skips wata

[vocal lynx]

Global release player

I gotta go school, bye guys. I will try beating them later

[cerulean grotto]

[vocal lynx]

Toodles 🙁

[silent ore]

This video I'm watching on memories is saying that I shouldn't even touch the resources section in the battle menu, but instead buy everything from the event shops after farming event levels. Is that credible?

[raw swift]

Haven't malded fire

[livid lark]

ss3 car?

[opaque ridge]

Whel

[raw swift]

Ya

[livid lark]

😭

[raw swift]

I only give him 1 reso lol

[livid lark]

im tempted to get car ss3 just for the 4 shakes build

i know it's not the smartest idea atm

[jaunty beacon]

Yes. The permanent farm nodes have a really bad droprate. And event shop is just better

[cerulean grotto]

Ss3 hypercuck

[jaunty beacon]

Helper here pins the way to the event shop every patch

[livid lark]

it's just for the optimisation lol

i dont really care whether i place in legend or no

[cerulean grotto]

Only 15k bc

[livid lark]

im likely going to drop anyway

yea i know 😭

[jaunty beacon]

Ss3 lee or gacha skin

[distant wren]

Is it even possible to retain legend if ur lower than sss invest

[rose yew]

yes

[jaunty beacon]

If you're hella lucky on your bracket

[rose yew]

unless you're in na

[opaque ridge]

Be the only one in ur bracket

[distant wren]

Get paired up with cw soloer?

[jaunty beacon]

and good hands

[quiet lily]

Paid selector next patch

[rose yew]

3s cw soloers score higher than mine

[livid lark]

😭

it's $150AUD

i need to save for uncle sss

[quiet lily]

[rose yew]

wth whel

[quiet lily]

Paid selector gives 7.5k bc

[livid lark]

it's the only voluntary limited sss im going for

[rose yew]

I'm barely at 64k bc rn

[livid lark]

0-0

[shadow holly]

wow what a whale
even im only planning for ss3

[quiet lily]

Omg thats enough for s+ brs

[rose yew]

[livid lark]

i want to see him destroy stuff

also investment for void loonah

[steep nova]

Who is the most recommended s rank I should get in the uhh standard (?) Gacha

[rose yew]

entropy

[livid lark]

depends on your account

[rose yew]

[shy bane]

does echo need SS? she's a qte bot right

[livid lark]

uh define need

[steep nova]

Is the new alpha good

[quiet lily]

Omg shuhua

[steep nova]

Yasss

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

firstly she not new
second she's good for now

[steep nova]

Oh mb

How about the girl with the claws

[shy bane]

like how dpses need SS bcs it increases the gauge
does echo SS increases her buff or smth

[steep nova]

She looks cool

[cerulean grotto]

Meh, but she's cute

[quiet lily]

U would need her ss if u wanna rotate phys team

[cerulean grotto]

Waifu bait

[livid lark]

ss just gives 3 orbs on swapin + edb

[steep nova]

What do I call the other alpha

[livid lark]

nothing related to dmg buff

[livid lark]

crimson weave/crimson abyss

[steep nova]

[livid lark]

the former is current meta dps for lightning
the latter is an old unit for physical who's a waste of space right now

[quiet lily]

Vergil

[rose yew]

motivation

[cerulean grotto]

Oi, ca is the cooler alpha

[steep nova]

I'm so confused

[livid lark]

just look on gray ravens

[shy bane]

my phys team is
SS Bianca + Sig
S Echo + Sig + Harmo
S Rigor + Sig
It's not a rotate team right?

[steep nova]

Anyways how much can I save up if I start over

[cerulean grotto]

Most important question:- waifu or meta?

[rose yew]

they're both meta

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

not atm

[rose yew]

[cerulean grotto]

[steep nova]

Honestly.... why not all

[quiet lily]

Make all ss and u can rotate

[rose yew]

k whel

[livid lark]

because the second choice doesn't always give you options

[cerulean grotto]

Do you have your card ready

[shy bane]

[livid lark]

if you follow meta you must pull the guys as well

[steep nova]

Are there any good male characters too

[livid lark]

ofc

the next s rank is meta male unit

[quiet lily]

Male

[steep nova]

Ooo

[livid lark]

and no nanaknight won't beat him

[steep nova]

Whose nanaknight

[rose yew]

ew m*le in gacha game

[cerulean grotto]

[steep nova]

Wha

[livid lark]

thats just genderbend version of the actual character

[steep nova]

OH

[cerulean grotto]

Good male character

[livid lark]

look up wanshi: lucid dreamer

[cerulean grotto]

Or my 2nd wife instead

This lore accurate ek

[livid lark]

yea i read that chapter

[cerulean grotto]

Best chapter

[nova forum]

How does the new set orb works (e.g pyro Lucia, S wanshi, Knightnami)

[steep nova]

OH MY GOD

[cerulean grotto]

Yeh, my first wife is amazing right?

[steep nova]

[livid lark]

bridget has it as well

i think instead of the orbs appearing horizontally it will stack with the newer system

[nova forum]

How does it works on Knightnami
Y I see "x/15" below the orbs

Can she store 45 orbs?

[livid lark]

i think that's why they made it like that

[nova forum]

[livid lark]

and then if you 3 ping you just tap one of those orbs and then it will subtract 3 instead of 1/2

[livid lark]

also yellow has no orb stack

it's just 1 button like basic

[nova forum]

How much 'orb stack' does dlt gives

[livid lark]

it should be the same

like 2 orbs on swap in

[nova forum]

I need translation

[livid lark]

uh do you have a cn screenshot

[quiet lily]

[nova forum]

2 orbs on old set = how many orb stacks

[steep nova]

How many days will it take for me to get 30 pulls

[nova forum]

Are you f2p or not

[steep nova]

F2p

I haven't done most of the story

[shadow holly]

uh if you mean for the newbie standard banner then it can be done in like 2-3 days probably, maybe a week at most
if for lamia banner, probably a week or two considering ur new and just joined today

[steep nova]

Idk how many times I've rejoined this server

[rose yew]

Im only 3 months old player

[shadow holly]

cause like, just from regular income and events n stuff 30 pulls would take around 4 weeks I guess

but if you rush story and interludes, and haven't completed the roguelike modes too, then you can get this much pulls in just a few days

[pine slate]

Time to skip

[nova forum]

Am I trippin or did kuro add ability to choose which char's intro to play regardless of starting unit

[pine slate]

That reminds me, I still have yet to skip the recent story

Where

[quiet lily]

Ayo fr?

[nova forum]

No

That's why I'm asking, cuz I'm feeling de javu on it

[shadow holly]

nah

[rose yew]

not sure about cn but definitely not on glb

[quiet lily]

[nova forum]

damn

[cerulean grotto]

Yoo wtf

[nova forum]

[cerulean grotto]

Alpha bike

I can finally see it

[rose yew]

daren intro into entropy starter

[shadow holly]

mods crush his balls

[cerulean grotto]

You don't have to click everything you see yk

[shadow holly]

what

click what

[cerulean grotto]

Oh you didn't click it, kk

You safe

[shadow holly]

dw I clicked it before
I already know your atrocities

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

but now I just saw cringe alpha simping

[cerulean grotto]

I'm just there for a few emotes

[rose yew]

a few

[shadow holly]

[last terrace]

What’s alpha simping?

[shadow holly]

who has the alpha syndrome gif

[cerulean grotto]

I'm not talking about "those" ones Ok

[rose yew]

not me

[quartz dove]

Alpha solo op

Unlike other dps

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-punishing-grey-raven-pgr-pgr-alpha-crimson-abyss-gif-24402348

[cerulean grotto]

Wym cringe, I named her cub after myself

[quartz dove]

So u want alpha ride ur ass

[cerulean grotto]

So that she can ride me everytime

[shadow holly]

[quartz dove]

[cerulean grotto]

[quartz dove]

I better see ur alpha 500 rc coating later

[nova forum]

[cerulean grotto]

I'm getting it dw

[nova forum]

Is balt slash DMG output even good?

[steep nova]

Should I get crimson weave or the wolf girl

I think sent this a while ago I already forgot

[shadow holly]

there is no better alternative

[shadow holly]

Hanying is always mixed output so pure slash damage isn't very high

[nova forum]

Didn't aetherlao sht on her leap cuz of how wonky it is?

[shadow holly]

it's more so that it doesn't change anything in her kit and doesn't do almost anything for her phys part

[dapper skiff]

Actually good dps

[livid lark]

it was more so how it affected builds (leap is not buffed by ult reso) and that actual physical damage never got buffed actually (or got buffed little)

[shadow holly]

like
her slash damage with leap is good

but her leap is literally just to make her into a slash DPS

they threw some minor improvements for her phys damage but it is like a second thought
maybe even third

[livid lark]

hence why aether made the joke about the 30 balter mem sets

because it's literally now

• sets for wz
• sets for ppc
• sets for affix wz
• sets for affix ppc

[shadow holly]

feral should have higher longevity in the long run and will be used in multiple teams, but crimson weave is the base of the lightning team right now and the team doesn't really exist without her

[nova forum]

So it's not even a "leap", but more so just a way for kuro to milk her decaying presence

[cerulean grotto]

Just tell him why so poor

[livid lark]

do you know why aether also laughed at the cw leap now?

[nova forum]

Y

[shadow holly]

because she can't fkin stack those umbra stacks properly

[cerulean grotto]

Started from Daren itself iirc

[shadow holly]

CW will need a dark affix enabler for herself as well

[cerulean grotto]

Leap isn't about leap anymore

[nova forum]

Only good part of Daren leap is self trigger matrix

[livid lark]

yea it's just a way for kuro to force new meta

[cerulean grotto]

Lilith

[pine slate]

Wata leap trust

[livid lark]

literally gives them an opening to introduce new meta