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[dapper skiff]

Youtube sucks

[vast crystal]

Atleast she has time lagg? Which Vera doesn't right? Lol

[rose yew]

true but yt looks cleaner and simple aesthetic vibes

[remote pier]

YouTube has gone downhill since Google acquisition

[rose yew]

[livid lark]

ya

but wait for beta changes

[jaunty beacon]

[livid lark]

cos v1 atm

[quartz dove]

cant even watch tora dora on yt anymore

[thorn creek]

Nananerf trust

[woven haven]

umbra super ppc moment

[quartz dove]

NO

[sleek basin]

[rose yew]

fate weapon banner announcement doko

[quartz dove]

ok listen unless lilit do like 3 times fish damage

[remote pier]

A wild Aetherlao

[jaunty beacon]

b-but i want a definitive character 2 hour after a beta dropped

[quartz dove]

I dont see they can add umbra ppc

[lime crow]

This is part of the game too?

[livid lark]

40% dark buff at base

[velvet agate]

#1058505795374940243

[hollow tulip]

@woven haven what are we thinking about this leap so far

[quartz dove]

Good qol crap dmg

Useless cool move in lightning content

[rose yew]

no access

[mighty tusk]

Dark affix cw

[thorn creek]

Useless like balter

[remote pier]

Miku banned from making game suggestions

[woven haven]

affix and QoL that's all

[dapper skiff]

No way

Miku banned from #1058505795374940243

[split sail]

damn that sounds like barely even faster except for noskill users

[woven haven]

don't expect any raw dmg increases to be significant

[dapper skiff]

[rose yew]

I cooked too much

[thorn creek]

Make leaps great again

[split sail]

CW still gonna be slow af?

[remote pier]

Miku leap when

[thorn creek]

Always has been

[dapper skiff]

Perhaps

[mighty tusk]

Still

[rose yew]

cw been nerfed from 2 rots to 1 rot

[livid lark]

qte is a dot

[dapper skiff]

But at least she won't be slow in one content only

But 2 now

[pine slate]

No more cw solo consistent legend retain?

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1281222919422214195/GIF_0826269065.gif

[thorn creek]

Nanaknight carry

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

Trash game, time to quit

[dapper skiff]

Nanaknight carry fr

[vast crystal]

Aetherlao when you need him owob

[thorn creek]

Haters will argue to keep garnet

[lime crow]

Help

[dapper skiff]

That just the dogs

[vast crystal]

Wait which affix?

[rose yew]

just keep moving forward

[woven haven]

dark

[thorn creek]

Nanaknight switch axe user frfr

[woven haven]

for cw

[livid lark]

dark for cw
burn for nanaknight

[woven haven]

and cw can't use dark affix herself atm

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-huner-rise-gif-18496061

[woven haven]

she's actually not that great at it by herself

[nova forum]

Sss3 daren looking more worth getting

[woven haven]

and currently no team members so she is stuck to scire and capri

[nova forum]

[livid lark]

i actually was a switch axe main in mh rise

[vast crystal]

Wow

[vast crystal]

Guess daren running pgr now

[dapper skiff]

Nanami is a grown-up now

To have such smile

[nova forum]

Oh w8 forgot Daren can't do dark affix shred

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

Cw solo in dark affix?

[velvet agate]

Pgr's best girl

[quartz dove]

why are u using the worst mh ever created gif

[livid lark]

punishing: karenina now XD

[thorn creek]

So glad they kept her roller skates design

Peak Nanami

[woven haven]

shred doesn't matter

[rose yew]

Teddy dark affix shred

[woven haven]

dark shred will shred umbra res too

same with other attributes

[nova forum]

[woven haven]

phys shred -> shreds slash res

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-mh4u-4u-gif-10214704

[woven haven]

light shred -> shreds ion res

[mighty tusk]

Does mixed zone now have umbra affix?

[quartz dove]

NOW THAS GOOD MH

[woven haven]

not this patch

[quartz dove]

RRRRAAGGGGGH POWEERRR

[woven haven]

so CW leap is mostly just qol fixes for now

[thorn creek]

Too bad I’m hammer/longsword main

[woven haven]

no use for umbra just yet

[quartz dove]

FCK U

LS MAIN NO RIGHT

[thorn creek]

[thorn creek]

While u study the whel, I study the blade

[quartz dove]

fck off foresight slash spammer

[nova forum]

Is there any char that can do double ult rot on affix stage?

[quartz dove]

[remote pier]

self healing bosses and mobs incoming

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-speech-bubble-small-guy-with-a-sword-speech-bubble-gif-2288421216251484021

[woven haven]

lucia ofc

[dapper skiff]

Hello guys

This is nanami's new fren

Say hi

[quartz dove]

AHAHHAH

[woven haven]

she does ult 3 -> ult 5 -> ult3 in a single rot back to back at SSS and higher so technically 3 rots

[quartz dove]

imma use that thx u

[hollow tulip]

Glad we on same page (idk if my message sent lol)

[digital moat]

So this is what nanami did to her mech

[thorn creek]

Her cub’s a Reddit user!?

[dreamy pelican]

chat, whats the rotation for phys team? its alisa-balter-rigor right?

[raw swift]

Idk man my acc is brick

[woven haven]

what makes it funnier is the only actual worthy dmg up is SSS+ 15% EDB
but what does SSS3-SSS+ CW already have an excess of? EDB

[dreamy pelican]

tryna break 1 mil but im not sure whats the best rot for her- i went by feel

[woven haven]

they could have buffed slam numbers

[thorn creek]

Typical modern leap

[remote pier]

So all the decent Kuro staff went to WW or something

[hollow tulip]

yeah

[rose yew]

you cant break 1mil with alsia?

[thorn creek]

Boosts everything but the main damage dealer

[remote pier]

[velvet agate]

Still subject to change since it's beta

[dreamy pelican]

i know i can, but i suck rn

[livid lark]

correct

[woven haven]

matt about to drop pgr from the alphaslanderingleap

[remote pier]

They'll just add more numbers

[dreamy pelican]

my phys clear is 970k iirc

[thorn creek]

I’m happy CW leap sucks

Keep Alpha fans in check

[hollow tulip]

couldve buffed slam numbers, ult numbers, literally anything. but no. lets increase her edb again bois!!@@

[raw swift]

With low invest balter and qte Alisa and no rosetta i got 950k idk what you doing wrong

[hollow tulip]

nah im prolly gonna quit regardless

[pseudo compass]

will the free 6 star choices in standard banner be updated with each patch?

[hollow tulip]

this gsme is dog

[pine slate]

Yes

[quartz dove]

[thorn creek]

Unless kuro adds marriage mechanic, imma drop this game

[quartz dove]

at least unlike balter u dont need chast s+

[woven haven]

its literally CA leap whiplash
remember how i said CA leap has almost no actual numbers up on core or ult except i think on SSS+
and its all fancy new moves and ult leap uses 7 core orbs which is a bit of a waste for 1 boosted hit at the end

[dreamy pelican]

just poor rotations i suppose

[woven haven]

and how i said this was cuz of Balter
they had to keep alpha numbers in check

[raw swift]

Just swap every once in a while

[woven haven]

competitive wise*

[woven haven]

yeah u are playing the game wrong then

[rose yew]

or solo balter

[dreamy pelican]

on that note

[raw swift]

I tried to solo with balter but it was lower score even though I had enough orbs so swapping to ur team members is better

[pine slate]

@woven haven how worth it is it to leap base s garnet

[hollow tulip]

now they worried about competititve wise shen they drop caharacters that dps circles around her anyway

laughable.

[mighty tusk]

Plus harmo

[thorn creek]

Phys rotation should go balter->balter->balter

[rose yew]

depends on the team invest

[raw swift]

For me it's just balter alisa balter alisa balter alisa

[pine slate]

My phys rot goes CA > CA > CA

[remote pier]

[pine slate]

Got like 2.3m phys

[rose yew]

mine is 223.3 130 100 so

[dreamy pelican]

whats the optimal rotation for rosetta? usually when i swap after balter i dont have time for alisa's qte, and i do ult into atleast a single 3 ping then instantly swap to alisa

[sleek basin]

Eclipse user

[rose yew]

[dreamy pelican]

but what i do notice is that rosetta still has the alisa buff, so its not that bad

[dusky quarry]

Eclipse is dog

[rose yew]

outdamages lumi at sss3

[dusky quarry]

At least use lumi megacope crit

[raw swift]

What do i say if my tank is ayla? Still 213 155 100?

[dusky quarry]

[hollow tulip]

for balter rotation you normally swap to rosetta when you have qtes up again.
so then after you have the choice of railgunning or ulting then swapping to alisa

[dusky quarry]

I swear I am so happy I have Alisa and luminance is no more

[rose yew]

ayla base shred is 55 iirc?

[livid lark]

huh

[hidden forum]

[raw swift]

???

Ayla new meta tank if that was actually true

[unkempt grotto]

Miku back at misinfo

[dusky quarry]

Ayla is ok to be a tank considering her assets

[hollow tulip]

how do you even get to that number?

[dreamy pelican]

wouldnt it take a long while before alisa's qte comes up again? from the way im doing it, i used alisa's qte during balter ult

rigor-alisa-rigor

then instantly swap to rigor for her ult

[thorn creek]

Ayla is there for moral support

[mighty tusk]

@livid lark are you gonna check out bilibili for ppc runs of nanami?

[livid lark]

maybe

need to get other stuff done first

[hollow tulip]

what rank is your balter? i could just show you a small video

[dreamy pelican]

s0 with sig 😭

[raw swift]

Extra 45 because of the government

[rose yew]

3s rosetta is at 110% and ayla is A rank so 110 divide by 2

[raw swift]

We found the problem

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-low-tier-god-ltg-gif-4022085103641635431

[split sail]

s0 balter isn't a real unit

[grand jay]

I love Nanami's design

Actually makes sense

[rose yew]

you joined last year and yet your balter is still not s5?

[grand jay]

Unlike a certain release

[hidden forum]

[dreamy pelican]

OH WAIT YOU MEANT BALTER

i thought u said rigor, i saw that wrong

ss0 with sig

[raw swift]

I got balter last week and she's already ss

[hollow tulip]

with s0 everything is scuffed
you need ss0 at least to make her a playable charscter

[woven haven]

New Nanami shred functions:
QTE does 1 hit that shreds Fire/Lightning RES depending on Nanami's mode
And then does 8s of DoT Burn/Lightning DMG
After ult, drops an entity on field for 12s that does dmg every second
If you have Sig Mem, the DoT ticks of post-ult field AND QTE DoT can shred fire/lightning res

[thorn creek]

They brought back her loops which is peak

[grand jay]

Pulse but peak

[dreamy pelican]

i typo'd againnnn shes ss0 with sig

[hollow tulip]

oh

[dreamy pelican]

RIGOR is s0 with sig

[thorn creek]

Plus she now switch axe user

[quartz dove]

cb

[thorn creek]

Longsword

[raw swift]

Wb alisa

[dreamy pelican]

s7 with harmo'd sig

[split sail]

so another unit that needs sig mem to qte ele shred?

[kindred bobcat]

Mf i pinged for babel pilot

[rose yew]

no wonder you need swapping

[woven haven]

1st hit of QTE has inbuilt

[rose yew]

s0 rose can't shred at qte

[woven haven]

the DoT ticks of QTE after need sig mem

[split sail]

well, i guess thats an upgrade over the garnet/mech situations

[woven haven]

its literally wata + garn mixed

[quartz dove]

decent honestly

[woven haven]

which admittedly puts her in about... 2nd best tank shred application rn

[grand jay]

Yeah she does have the lightning zone

[hybrid sluice]

[grand jay]

Makes sense actually

[woven haven]

again like i said months ago
nothing is beating hanying

[quartz dove]

who is the best ?

[woven haven]

hanying is nigh unbeatable at shred app

[grand jay]

Hanying is literally the entire screen

[hollow tulip]

i do have a phys rotation video but its kinda(not really) outdated with alisa

[quartz dove]

THAT WH0RE

[grand jay]

And is consistent

[woven haven]

there is no way to beat her shred application rate

u can match it at best

[stuck sphinx]

Wtf they increased cw qte damage like i predicted

[thorn creek]

Useless leap as predicted

[split sail]

qte lvl1ers about to have to spend all them skill points

new meta is QTE dmg meta

[grand jay]

More like mandatory

[thorn creek]

Make leaps great again kuro

[hybrid sluice]

Kill affix content so leaps become great again

[grand jay]

You're not clearing Umbra without CW leap

[rose yew]

back to malding minmax ppc with qte damage again

[grand jay]

You think Lilith alone will help?

[dreamy pelican]

i could do a short recording of my rotation and send a link here

[quartz dove]

i told people

[grand jay]

It's Balter leap

[jaunty beacon]

next step is nightblade leap

[dreamy pelican]

i think thats the best way to approach this

[quartz dove]

affix is bad for the game'

[grand jay]

but better since she gets more qols

[split sail]

honestly don't understand why they don't just make the leap good for lightning while still adding affix stuff

[hollow tulip]

kuro making the worst leaps known to man (they just wanna push their dumb affix meta)

[hollow tulip]

sure

[hybrid sluice]

It all started with Daren leap

[grand jay]

Atp it's pretty whatever

Idm it as much

[quartz dove]

ITS KAREN FAULT

[stuck sphinx]

Daren free matrix good

[hollow tulip]

nah it aint whatever 😭

[thorn creek]

So crazy they went from peak then downhill with leaps

[split sail]

i like the affix stuff tbh, lets you use units in 2 modes and in 2 teams

[rose yew]

ca leap now clears w11-13 in one cp and leap attack

[stuck sphinx]

But it doesn’t increase dmg right

[hollow tulip]

daren sucked leap wise and i made fun of it for like an entire patch

[hollow tulip]

not really

[thorn creek]

Daren leap was peak and then they decided not to be peak anymore

[lethal sun]

The reverse sweep is crazy

[atomic spire]

at least new banana is not being totally useless, looking back that's already a win for her

[pine slate]

It's now gonna take 2 units to powercreep 1

[thorn creek]

[quartz dove]

[pine slate]

But 1 unit also powercreep 2 slots

[split sail]

well 1 unit powercreeps it in 1 mode

[quartz dove]

evil and greedy

[stuck sphinx]

It just evens out eventually

[quartz dove]

[hollow tulip]

so they literally changed nothing at the end of the day

[cerulean grotto]

Pgr is going real ded with this one

[thorn creek]

What’s burn affix team then?

[hollow tulip]

equal amount of powercreep

[cerulean grotto]

I ain't competing wid these whels anymore

[grand jay]

Nonexistent

We're waiting on an abuser

[cerulean grotto]

1.8mil and dip is the best strat

[split sail]

i mean it gives them a whole unit replacement cycle of lifteime extension, that's hardly nothing

[grand jay]

Umbra is next

[pine slate]

Exactly

[dreamy pelican]

even in a games design perspective, the affix meta is just poorly executed and even poorly maintained

[quartz dove]

its more anti f2p

[cerulean grotto]

^

[quartz dove]

[lethal sun]

Lmao the 1 unit replacing 2 units isn’t anything new in PGR

Been done in the past

[dreamy pelican]

they have way too much on their plate, and they decide that the best thing to do is to add more

[hybrid sluice]

Could argue that about timestop

[split sail]

its really not? no skippable units, jsut like its always been

[woven haven]

every unit now on will take 2 slots
element / affix

[lethal sun]

Cooked

[grand jay]

Leaps will allow characters to stay meta for longer too ig

[cerulean grotto]

He's talking about the competitive stuff

[compact fern]

How good is her fire shred?

[quartz dove]

cooked real bad

[hybrid sluice]

Don't want to read kits if half of it is just filled with affix bloat

[thorn creek]

When affix 2?

[grand jay]

1 plus is that we get easy SSS

[cerulean grotto]

At this point, I'm just staying in pgr for the story

[dreamy pelican]

i agree too, timestop should've been available for everyone. making it so that new units have them is simply making it feature creep

[woven haven]

25/35/45 as usual

[split sail]

competitive stuff has always been anti f2p

[hollow tulip]

bruh im geyting automodded so hard

[cerulean grotto]

And ppc atm

[quartz dove]

support my suggestion https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1269461818951205056

[mighty tusk]

Honestly bringing timestop to past units wont save them

[hollow tulip]

bruh if i wanted to only play a game for the stroy id read a book

[compact fern]

Oh same shred as uncle?
But for both fire and lightning?

[cerulean grotto]

Skill played a higher part early in pgr

[livid lark]

it's standard now

also on wanshi

[cerulean grotto]

It's my choice

[pine slate]

Time to skip wata

[grand jay]

Daren is the only tank that does less

[woven haven]

wait not the fire shred

[mighty tusk]

What heresy is this?

[hollow tulip]

nanamech :

[woven haven]

just light

[grand jay]

In CN meta

[compact fern]

So no fire shred?

[grand jay]

Every other tank in CN does 45 max

[woven haven]

actually wait a sec

[grand jay]

Daren does 35 max

[hollow tulip]

better

[quartz dove]

OH NO

[split sail]

yeah. then mandatory sigs with new kit features became a thing, then significant CUB boost, then harmo. but affix isn't like those

[woven haven]

wording just says res reduction effects

[hollow tulip]

I'm aware yes

[pine slate]

[quartz dove]

LILITH DARK TANK MAKE SENSE

[hybrid sluice]

Hanying

[woven haven]

so i think it... is 45% both?

[quartz dove]

[hollow tulip]

it does yeah

[pine slate]

Amp pls

[livid lark]

wait what wata powercrept alr 0-0

[pine slate]

Ok actually dark tank would also be ok

[quartz dove]

cus darren FCKING ION TANK AND ITS UR ONLY OPTION

[grand jay]

Besides Hanying but that's because she's phys

[pine slate]

As long as Capri isn't on field

[hollow tulip]

capri sucks too though

[lethal sun]

Preach

[dreamy pelican]

but it can elevate the character for casual players. leaps are for this exact reason too; besides making old characters who are already in the meta more viable with their teammates, it allows casuals to enjoy their favourite units even more with less of a feeling of power and feature creep

[onyx palm]

by who?

[quartz dove]

ITS RIGGED FROM THE START

[lethal sun]

get this crapi off the team on god

[grand jay]

Capri sucks she's gone next patch

[hybrid sluice]

Capri holding dark team back
Stuck on 4 seraphine
Sucks at using 4 guin

[thorn creek]

Crapi will never go away

[quartz dove]

THIS DEV TEAM IS BENNY FROM NEW VEGAS

[cerulean grotto]

Tbh, affix stuff are being locked behind higher ranks and it becomes difficult to compete in there, at least that's what I think, don't really know properly about affix do thsts my current opinion

[pine slate]

I'm glad everyone has the same hatred for Capri meta wise

[grand jay]

I mean it isn't really????

[onyx palm]

what makes her gone next patch?

[grand jay]

It's locked behind leaps

[quartz dove]

-FUCK THAT HOE CAPRI

KILL HER ALREADY

[woven haven]

guys calm down nanaknight needs to trigger a specific mode to shred fire i think

[livid lark]

cos s rank

[hollow tulip]

since when has leap made a gen 1 character more meta viable though? genuinely speaking
except for rosetta and lumi cuz they didnt have their gen 2 counterpart

[cerulean grotto]

Leaps stuff is locked behind character ranks doe

[onyx palm]

what do you mean? 🗿

[hollow tulip]

imma trigger a certain mode on these devs

[stuck sphinx]

Hanying ss3

[hidden forum]

Leaped rozen 🗣️ 🔥

[livid lark]

next patch is cn anniversary
cn anniversary is always s rank release
capri is on the chopping board right now

[compact fern]

So she can shred both fire and lightning?

[onyx palm]

oh right next patch on CN

[woven haven]

one or the other not both at the same time

[mighty tusk]

Isnt cn anniv in December?

[onyx palm]

Not global 🗣️ 🔥

[grand jay]

Alpha leap
Is Umbra based
can abuse it
has no way of enabling it
Selena is the weakest link
One patch away from anni once Nanami is out

[thorn creek]

Next S rank is Ishmael

[livid lark]

blank says otherwise

[cerulean grotto]

Better than luna

[onyx palm]

Limbus peak

[compact fern]

Ye of course

[grand jay]

Nanami is 26 Sept Late Oct

[mighty tusk]

Wait which is it?

[livid lark]

when is cn anni?

[rose yew]

yes anniversary is Dec

[grand jay]

The patch after that is Late Oct Late Nov

[compact fern]

If nana can shred fire it's huge for me

I hate uncle so much

[grand jay]

Anni is Late Nov Late Dec

[livid lark]

still need wata for months tho

[stuck sphinx]

[grand jay]

Anni is early Dec

[hybrid sluice]

Is it skip wata for brs time

[split sail]

you think they're dropping another s rank so soon and have 5 in 6 patches?

[cerulean grotto]

We skipping uncle?

[onyx palm]

how about skip wata AND brs? 🗣️ 🔥

[grand jay]

Yes

[kindred bobcat]

Skipping uncle for nanami now?

[compact fern]

Skip wata cuz spent too much during anni patch

[dreamy pelican]

rosetta and garnet had leaps to smooth out their gameplay in a meta where everyone moves fast and rotations become faster. that was the point for their leap; make them more viable. faster and/or stronger so that they can at least keep up with their elements' teammates

[rose yew]

surely they won't delay anni til 2025

[split sail]

now that's what i call anti f2p and anti low spender too

[cerulean grotto]

That's some giga cope

[grand jay]

The anni stream had 3 S ranks revealed

[thorn creek]

Kuro greed taking over

[grand jay]

Now

Lilith could be free

[thorn creek]

F2P even more rights taken away

[grand jay]

She could be like Ayla in this case

[onyx palm]

yeah skip Wata because he might get a replacement a year from now

[split sail]

oh i mean if they do a double paid S rank patch again that's just fkd

[woven haven]

okay calm down helen of troy

[livid lark]

1 year is a long time

[split sail]

but even a free S rank patch still has a lot of costs

[digital moat]

I had to relearn fdoj for this >:c

[woven haven]

Wata is still best void tank pre-nanami

[grand jay]

They'd do a triple paid S rank streak

[onyx palm]

I know. I was being sarcastic 🗣️ 🔥

[digital moat]

Walmart dodge doesn't work

[rose yew]

I skipped hyper on his debut
now look at him

[hidden forum]

Voodoo surely

[hybrid sluice]

9 patches between wata and Nanami, have fun

[grand jay]

And no one wants that

[unreal coyote]

How can I play narwhal music in game

[compact fern]

Holy nanami beats wata in void team too?

[woven haven]

ok nanaknight sig
+10% atk. Doubles base dmg of 2 moves, and u get a 3ping after using either of those moves

[woven haven]

nanami numbers are not final

[digital moat]

Wouldn't get past half hp of test vodo

[woven haven]

so we literally can't say anything

[hollow tulip]

garnets was okay
rosetta is still barely going by, it didnt even smooth out herrotstion much. all it did was make ult viable

[hidden forum]

Bs test

[dreamy pelican]

before her leap there was absolutely no benefit to ulting with garnet, same for rosetta; too long of an animation for too little of an effect. so they streamlined it to be worth using in the current meta, so on and so forth

[thorn creek]

She orb hungry?

[split sail]

can't judge anything about nanami other than knowing her type/affix/class

[unreal coyote]

Is there a narwhal in game?

[woven haven]

sounds like it

[static night]

Skill issue

[split sail]

derek

[hollow tulip]

#📨・meta-help message
for some reason it didnt reply to you

[grand jay]

Also you guys are right about affixes I stand corrected

[woven haven]

and the staple rank increases like 45 shred and -3s

[digital moat]

Your wallet issue fund me daddy

[compact fern]

At least nanami u won't have to play candy crush
Fixed orbs

[split sail]

right but no surprise there

[cerulean grotto]

Time to retire from pgr waifu

[livid lark]

from altera gameplay it's 3+3+yellow + AA

[grand jay]

I think on the plus side Alpha's isn't entirely locked behind rank????

[cerulean grotto]

[grand jay]

But her qols are locked behind SSS

[unreal coyote]

I mean the narwhal by ghost final in game

[unreal coyote]

I wanna play it on my lobby

[digital moat]

[split sail]

more fixed orbs? they're really turning this into notPGR

[grand jay]

When it comes to affixes I think low spenders are okayish

F2ps have no rights tho

[compact fern]

I heard nanami one core does more dps than cw entire rot even after cw leap is this true?

[split sail]

affixes are fine for low spend yea

[cerulean grotto]

Orb gain is still rng from what I heard

[thorn creek]

So after Nanaknight, dark is now the weakest once again?

[grand jay]

Yes

[cerulean grotto]

[thorn creek]

My feesh is sad

[kindred bobcat]

Would nanami cw vera be better than nanami cw feral in ppc trading amp passive for light shred of vera?or no

[dreamy pelican]

we can never know kuro's true intentions, but i think that was what they were going for. the leaps make the bad parts of their kit viable, but not strong enough to beat newer units down the line

and for other old units, its just there for casuals to enjoy.

[grand jay]

Most likely they'll be the weakest

[split sail]

dark is the oldest after all

[thorn creek]

Gib me Ishmael or Lilith as dark amp already

[grand jay]

But they won't be gapped as much when Lilith is out

[quartz dove]

For now

[compact fern]

Ye we need dark amp
Capri sucks balls

[stuck sphinx]

So is Nanami better than wata

[dreamy pelican]

its now either dark amp or fire amp

i think its gonna be dark amp to go first since the fire team is busted atm

[rose yew]

shh lemme enjoy my cappuccino longer

[compact fern]

Ishmael i think will be void if she ever playable

[quartz dove]

Capri need to die true

[rose yew]

[grand jay]

Well gen 2s are under threat of being replaced kinda

[quartz dove]

But is that gonna be enought to make dark do decent in onslaught

[mighty tusk]

[split sail]

absolutely capri is on the chopping block, empy is coping fine with her leap

[grand jay]

We might not get to that point YET

[quartz dove]

[dreamy pelican]

lilith uniframe anytime soon?

jk, uniframes arent a thing anymore

[woven haven]

@hollow tulip wait i missed one key dmg increase

[grand jay]

But 2025 will be the time we see a direct replacement to Balter potentially

[rose yew]

hyper is gen 1 now I guess

[quartz dove]

Lilith need to turn lamia into sub dps no cap

[woven haven]

ok maybe alpha leap is saved

[dreamy pelican]

true, i think they want to replace crapi first since she doesn't have a leap

[hollow tulip]

besides QTE and edb?

[quartz dove]

BURY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIN

[woven haven]

for every slam stack consumed by lightning/umbra slam, +0.15% base dmg bonus to ult2

[kindred bobcat]

The problem with gen 2.5 or 3 what ever u call that is that they keep releasing 3 in a row S ranks LMAO

[woven haven]

didn't see the lvl 18 increase

[stuck sphinx]

90%

At max

[quartz dove]

90% waow

[mighty tusk]

How good is it?

[thorn creek]

Ok actually fire

[quartz dove]

[hidden forum]

Which means it won’t affect doubleslit

[split sail]

hot dammn almost double slam dmg? ok kinda huge

[hidden forum]

[thorn creek]

At least it’s not as bad as balter

[quartz dove]

Thats the first thing come to my brain

[kindred bobcat]

The ult 2

[split sail]

oh right

[hidden forum]

[dreamy pelican]

kuro for the love of god and all that is holy

revert the affix meta. its not too late to go back man

[jaunty beacon]

don't think people still double slit in cn

[stuck sphinx]

sss weave

[hidden forum]

[quartz dove]

[stuck sphinx]

Diluted

[woven haven]

Alpha ult 2 has:
+60% SSS
+90% at 600 slam post leap
+80% from sig mem

[dreamy pelican]

i feel bad for the devs having to push affix meta when they have so much left to do as well

[unreal coyote]

Bro can I play narwhal by ghostfinal in the lobby???

[hollow tulip]

+90% base damage to ult2? waow
is that even a lot to write home about tho

[dreamy pelican]

i dont think so? yeah, its not possible iirc

[ripe stag]

So CW is back ?

[quartz dove]

She should be mono rotate with nanaknight

[unreal coyote]

Damnnn, thanks

[split sail]

its not a ton a ton with the other sources diluting but its not bad i guess?

[stuck sphinx]

37.5% undiluted sss
50% ss3

[quartz dove]

So its not that bad i think

[ripe stag]

I hope not

[woven haven]

37.5% dmg increase for ult2

[quartz dove]

Acceptable lah

[ripe stag]

I ain't no way changing her from da Vinci eins

[kindred bobcat]

U really wont use the leap move in light team

[woven haven]

that's at SSS

[ripe stag]

[quartz dove]

I mean sss with leap is cheap

[ripe stag]

Anyone did a tldr of her leap yet ?

[hollow tulip]

thats actully pretty good start

[hidden forum]

For u yea

[kindred bobcat]

Look at this mf whel

[hidden forum]

[ripe stag]

For u yea

[quartz dove]

Dont see the point chasing s+ tho

[ripe stag]

For us ? No

[dreamy pelican]

oh wait cw got a leap?

[kindred bobcat]

MF CALLED SSS CHEAP

[quartz dove]

Like bianca

[hidden forum]

[kindred bobcat]

THIS BIJ

[quartz dove]

[split sail]

bro you've literally been here while everyone talking abt it

[raw swift]

Sss cheap... I wish

[hidden forum]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

[quartz dove]

All this mofo behave as if they dont pull s+ lamia

[mighty tusk]

Yes and mixed reception

[quartz dove]

[kindred bobcat]

Mf stfu🧱

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-lucia-alpha-dillongoo-crimson-weave-gif-11502251703916190783

[hidden forum]

[thorn creek]

Not as bad as balter but still mid

[grand jay]

BP is 98 RC no?

[stuck sphinx]

Usually wz isn’t max stack right

[ripe stag]

In-game CW learnt from this animation

[grand jay]

That's 20 dollars pm

[dreamy pelican]

i thought yall were talking about nanami

i have no idea abt what nanami does, im just here to chat n yap

[grand jay]

You should get about 30 shards each patch

[split sail]

litreally no one talking about irrelevant mech

[ripe stag]

Can anyone tell me the leap details

[mighty tusk]

So mixed reception yes?

[ripe stag]

Wanna see how bad it is

[hollow tulip]

usually 504, all things considered if we going for speed

[grand jay]

Which means assuming you have SS3 it's like 2 patches

[woven haven]

super rough alpha leap TL excluding affix stuff:
3s after red/yellow ping, +sword gauge speed on hold dodge(?)
at max sword gauge, auto dash move, no waiting time
outside ult mode, ALL orbs are converted to blue
when pinging matrix orbs, follow Oblivion Sig Mechanic (can only take 1 orb max, 3ping with matrix eats one orb now max)
+60% Hold Dodge Core base DMG
+50% Orb base DMG
every slam stack consumed (up to 600) increases ult base dmg by +0.15%, up to 90%, CANNOT STACK MORE THAN ONE TIME PER ULT (cannot stack by doing more than 1 slam)
SSS+ Bonus: +15% EDB in ult mode
SSS: Next QTE after ult2 deals +100% more base dmg

[mighty tusk]

Aether had tl

[kindred bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-lucia-alpha-dillongoo-crimson-weave-gif-3130218786248390603

[atomic spire]

with BP, it's rather easy
but S+ is not

[dreamy pelican]

oh shoot thats cool, nice qol buffs

[kindred bobcat]

Either the creator of this video is a prophet or paid my kuro to just add the move in for future leap

[ripe stag]

WHAT'S WITH THIS QTE DAMAGE META

[hollow tulip]

you autodash at max stacks?

[thorn creek]

Everyone wants to be hyperoath QTE meta

[quartz dove]

U wish the qte dmg still a joke

[glass bay]

how did ploom survive this

[split sail]

max gauge

[remote pier]

Make solo gaming great again

[dreamy pelican]

shes just built diff

[hollow tulip]

oh guage whoops

[glass bay]

fk plot armour bs

[hollow tulip]

alpha allowed her to survive

[stuck sphinx]

Then it’s 31.5% undiluted sss
42% ss3

[kindred bobcat]

The auro dodge at full guage is ass you cant Delay it by 1.5s anymore

It instantly let go

[ripe stag]

Kuro just gave CW simps a reason to make Nanaknight qte slave

[glass bay]

she hit her with the fk omnislash what u mean allowed

[split sail]

why the hell are you delaying 1.5s

need a break from playing?

[raw swift]

Plume is stronk

[remote pier]

She deals too much DMG to be QTE bot though

[stuck sphinx]

Maybe to wait for qte

[hollow tulip]

if she was actually playing to kill shed die there ngl

[kindred bobcat]

Waiting for qte

[ripe stag]

CW simps care not

[rocky wedge]

She will be carried on nanamis back

[raw swift]

She literally healed her kinda

[hollow tulip]

i literally just woke up, these numbers are like hieroglyphics to me

[split sail]

guess you just gotta start holding it later

[kindred bobcat]

You cant stall the hold dodge anymore

[stuck sphinx]

30%
40%

[ripe stag]

Tell me
Is it Nana dps CW subdps now ?

[kindred bobcat]

Thats the only part i hate about her leap

[dreamy pelican]

i love that everyone in #📨・meta-help talks like they hate the game

[raw swift]

I don't even stall dodge tbh

[rocky wedge]

Idk it’s beta bruh wait for release you guys haven’t learned after all this time?

[split sail]

half of them do

[dreamy pelican]

yall hate literally everything yet still play this game

[regal cypress]

yes i think

[hollow tulip]

i hate it when they make dumb decisions

[rocky wedge]

But probably will end up being like that

[rotund trellis]

is new mermaid woman good

[kindred bobcat]

[dreamy pelican]

really good

[hollow tulip]

oh, not too bad

[atomic spire]

oh, bananame deal big dmg, that's certainly some breaking news

[split sail]

the best

[rocky wedge]

And I’m happy it’s nanami to be the one cause the simp players gonna be so mad 😂😂

[ripe stag]

I mean it's a tank who'll be in CW's team
I don't think nanami will not be nerfed to ground

[hollow tulip]

leaps dont change that much, lets be real here

[rocky wedge]

Ye I’m being real

[regal cypress]

the watanabe in question

[ripe stag]

[regal cypress]

[glass bay]

true but u dont hit someone with that sht and say ur holding back

[rocky wedge]

No I don’t think kuro is that dumb but will have to see

[ripe stag]

No one liked Lee cuz male
CW is fan favourite

[dapper skiff]

https://vxtwitter.com/inremission_3/status/1831640781830213651?s=33

[kindred bobcat]

If kuro made a guy that power creeps vera ong sum will happen

[dapper skiff]

Mahou shojou nanami

[ripe stag]

Hope

[quartz dove]

God that ayla loading screen

[ripe stag]

Nah that's Cross Ange nanami but without trauma

[kindred bobcat]

But they made nanami so case saved

[hollow tulip]

anime logic, characters get launched halfway across the universe, get up and say "heh, things are gettkng inresting."

[rocky wedge]

This is not much diff, like CW simps don’t like nanami because she doesn’t look cool or anything so wait and see yourself xD

[hidden forum]

Lee

[woven haven]

oh wow umbra slam takes a whole 5s to execute

[kindred bobcat]

Lmao

[rocky wedge]

She doesn’t even look like a waifu in this frame too since it’s quite bulky

[ripe stag]

In WuWa yes

[hidden forum]

[woven haven]

cw umbra form is slow as hell lmao

[hollow tulip]

nanami is like my 3rd favorite character

[ripe stag]

Replaced Vera (Yinlin) from dps spot

[kindred bobcat]

I haven't seen her frame design yet

[rocky wedge]

Ye but I mean the cringe simps

[dapper skiff]

[ripe stag]

I love everyone except Karen and all lucias

[hollow tulip]

real

[kindred bobcat]

That's why no one will use it outside the affix

[ripe stag]

WITHOUT TIMESTOP ?! WHAT THE

[woven haven]

i think CW leap in the grand scheme of things is... fine i suppose

[dapper skiff]

Crimson Weak

[leaden coyote]

How relevant are s vera right now? Is about to be replaced? still very needed?

[mighty tusk]

A slam that people wont use in lightning wz

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

Buried

[atomic spire]

QTE bot

[ripe stag]

6ft deep

[rocky wedge]

Is that something positive about alpha from ya? :0

[woven haven]

its +30-50% ult dmg increase with a neat bit of QoLs and... double qte dmg for some reason

[rocky wedge]

I will take it

[woven haven]

the affix stuff is its own thing

[zenith thorn]

sunk cost fallacy

[dapper skiff]

That "about to be replaced" is still 10 months more my dude

[kindred bobcat]

Adding the useless orb and core dmg

[dapper skiff]

But if you're asking whether you should pull or nah, garnet is definitely far from priority

[zenith thorn]

also kuro decision making is sh*t anyway

[leaden coyote]

By whoooo?

[hollow tulip]

qte damage buff is cookey as hell

[zenith thorn]

nanaknight (in beta rn)

[rocky wedge]

@static night mf I knew it was you without even checking

[leaden coyote]

I got her by accident with the free pull

[mighty tusk]

Main dps btw

[zenith thorn]

good

[static night]

Wtf

[leaden coyote]

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1281222919422214195/GIF_0826269065.gif

[zenith thorn]

nice gif

[glass bay]

then get beaten by 1 punch

[dapper skiff]

Why did that broke just now

[hollow tulip]

exactly

[quiet lily]

Is dat love and deepspace pfp?

[grand jay]

I'm happy that CW gets to rest

[leaden coyote]

The one and only purple fish

[grand jay]

It was painful having to watch solely carry lightning

[quiet lily]

[grand jay]

She has Nanami to fall back on now

[spiral merlin]

cw is DARK??.

[leaden coyote]

Man should i build garnet or should i just let her be?

[hollow tulip]

im glad feral became a qte bot tho, i get to make fun of cyalide for a bit

[spiral merlin]

What the hell

[quartz dove]

So garnet leap last like 8 patches

[grand jay]

I did say

[spiral merlin]

Kuro trolling

[woven haven]

holy moly even the 2pc effect of the mems is now weirdge

[spiral merlin]

I just woke up what the hell

[hollow tulip]

huh

[dapper skiff]

I mean she doesn't need a lot of upgrade to work anyway

Just upgrade her

[woven haven]

5% atk, 5% light 5% burn

[quiet lily]

It doesnt hurt to build garnet rn, just dont overinvest

[grand jay]

It was meant to be

Lilith and Alpha on the same team

[dapper skiff]

[vast crystal]

Would have made sense if nana was void ngl

[woven haven]

that's the nanami mem 2pc effect

[quartz dove]

They gonna sell lilith ss3 with cw leap

100%

[grand jay]

Like it's practically confirmed

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

nanami ss3 has double affix point gain like hanying ss3

[kindred bobcat]

Burn like DOT dmg?

[quartz dove]

NO

[dapper skiff]

Kinda?

[livid lark]

just affix

[woven haven]

the burn affix

[quartz dove]

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

[kindred bobcat]

Ahhh

[leaden coyote]

True but I'm still building other teams rn. Just upgrade her to lv 80 and use whatever memory i have are good enough right?

[stuck sphinx]

Nanami sss replace wata sss?

[quiet lily]

And you will sss them anyways

[hollow tulip]

@woven haven wait i joticed a problem with cw leap.
auto dash on full gauge means she cant get 600 points on slam

unless you hold slam in a weird way

[dapper skiff]

Upgrade to level 80 and get her memory set and she's ready to go

[kindred bobcat]

Let me correct that S+

[leaden coyote]

No please i like to play male character for once

[quiet lily]

[livid lark]

you got time before nanami lmao

[woven haven]

hmm?

[urban robin]

is there a site where I can see recomnended builds for each character?

[kindred bobcat]

U have to hold longer for the leap and hold less for the old

[leaden coyote]

Male characters expired fastt... I still haven't finish building lee

[woven haven]

she doesn't shred fire by default

u need to hold yellow orb

[vast crystal]

Lee leap doko?

[livid lark]

uh check the bot channel or gray ravens for now

[stuck sphinx]

Wait Nanami replace lee

[hollow tulip]

2 3 pings + the auto dash will be like 376 points(?)

[woven haven]

then she goes fire mode

[woven haven]

auto dash as in when u hold dodge

[hybrid sluice]

They realized how dumb 2 memory sets a character was

[hollow tulip]

ohhhhhgggg

[woven haven]

cuz rn you have 1.5s leeway to hold

now its automatic

[hollow tulip]

okay that makes sense now

not bad then

[quartz dove]

Rememeber when we use to mock how karen is bad cus need ss3 to function and now kuro normalize it for u to do affix

[hollow tulip]

yeah

[vast crystal]

Daren runs kuro now, she in every team comp

No daren = brick

[hybrid sluice]

Affix vs on-element is just pre-Noctis on-element vs off-element wz all over again

[kindred bobcat]

Brute force meta

🧱

[woven haven]

ok so
Nanami - Hold Yellow orb to enable burn mode for 10s
during that 10s, using burn ult and leaving the field refreshes the duration to 15s

[livid lark]

"if you wont accept our meta, we'll force it upon you XD"

[woven haven]

during this 10/15s, nanami's post-ult shred field and qte deal burn and shred fire

[rotund trellis]

how long will the mermaid woman event last

[quartz dove]

Time to pull rat in zzz

[woven haven]

otherwise its lightning

[barren plank]

Oh beta’s out? Nice

[spiral merlin]

So sss has infinite uptime?

[quartz dove]

Game doomed

[stuck sphinx]

4shakes nanami in fire wz

[thorn creek]

Shred light and fire wow

[vast crystal]

Much wow such wow

[spiral merlin]

They didn’t change the burn affix but they made nanami do more for fire?

[livid lark]

23rd sep i think

[thorn creek]

Nanafire still strong

[livid lark]

check pins

[woven haven]

yeah but she needs to onfield and she still doesn't deal fire dmg

so again, fire wz/ppc won't take more dmg from her

its like daren leap

[spiral merlin]

Well yeah we gotta wait for more burn units I figured

[woven haven]

you need to onfield a tiny bit to enable the alternate element shred

but i suppose it works as a pseudo fire tank

[spiral merlin]

Hmm

[stuck sphinx]

Like bridget

I guess

But with off field?

[vast crystal]

Do a ranks have affixes?

[spiral merlin]

Yes

[livid lark]

ya bridget and teddy

[stuck sphinx]

Teddy

[vast crystal]

Bruh

[quartz dove]

Yeah yata too

[vast crystal]

Am getting honkai ptsd

[quartz dove]

Affix is bad idea

[barren plank]

Lol

[quartz dove]

Remove it

[barren plank]

Did CW get leap

[quartz dove]

Still not too late

[livid lark]

leaps were a mistake
affix was a mistake

[livid lark]

dark affix

[barren plank]

Agree

[barren plank]

OMG I FELT LIKE THEY WOULD DO THAT

It was either combustion or dark

[livid lark]

and nanaknight is burn affix

[raw swift]

nanaflashbang

[stuck sphinx]

Cw slave to capri

[quartz dove]

The elitist was right game on slippery slope since they added time lag calculation

[ripe stag]

Leaps weren't a mistake till they were just QoL

[dreamy pelican]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[barren plank]

LOL i was right all around

[ripe stag]

Affix made leaps look like a mistake

[quiet lily]

Wait nanami got flashbang worst than empy?

[ripe stag]

Nah

[raw swift]

i said nanamech is fire tank, did i win?

[vast crystal]

Honkai ptsd intensifies

[ripe stag]

Exactly

[hybrid sluice]

CW flash bang was always worse for me tbh

[grand jay]

No

She's burn silly

[quiet lily]

Time to play with sunglasses

[ripe stag]

For now as far as I can understand
Every single gen 3 unit needs SS3 + R1 sig to even work on their affix

[rose yew]

she can shred fire?

[ripe stag]

She shreda Combustion

[quartz dove]

Correct

F2p genocide part 2

[grand jay]

Low spenders could achieve that relatively easy I think

[spiral merlin]

Anyone know what dark affix actually does

[livid lark]

i wanna see how burn shred works with fire

[vast crystal]

1 year from now only usable units are sss+ or account is bricked

[quiet lily]

We in shambles

[grand jay]

It prevents health regen on enemies

[ripe stag]

Which basically makes affix warzone and PPC a criminally bad thing

[quartz dove]

[spiral merlin]

[quartz dove]

PREACH BROTHER

[hybrid sluice]

SSS+ CUB or bust

[ripe stag]

For now what I saw is Heal down

[grand jay]

So Umbra content basically is you killing them before they can heal

Alpha is Umbra main dps

We need an Umbra support

[quartz dove]

Main dps are u crazy

[spiral merlin]

Well yeah of course

[ripe stag]

Bet Lilith will be the enabler

[grand jay]

Yes

Alpha Daren and Lilith is the Umbra team

[spiral merlin]

It’s the only thing that works now

[ripe stag]

No wtf

Daren is Ionization

[spiral merlin]

Daren still shred dark lmao

[livid lark]

dark shred also works with umbra

[quartz dove]

Slash team mdps is balter surely

[grand jay]

You use Daren as dark tank

[spiral merlin]

It’s not like she’s moved over

[grand jay]

And use CW in umbra mode

[ripe stag]

Oh yea forgot

[grand jay]

Lilith will proc Umbra

[hybrid sluice]

Is it time

[barren plank]

WAIT A MINUTE
DOES BURN AFFIX MEAN NANAKNIGHT WILL BE RUN W BRIDGET???

[grand jay]

Or enable Alpha to use it

[ripe stag]

More like
Hanying is enabler
Balter is executor

[spiral merlin]

Karen will be there as moral support, but will still shred for umbra

[vast crystal]

Game dying if even Ezra is getting confused from the bs

[grand jay]

Burn doesn't exist yet

[ripe stag]

LMAAAAAAAAAAO
UMBRA AFFIX

[grand jay]

Gotta wait for main Burn dps

[spiral merlin]

Burn likely can’t exist yet

This is the daren to the lucia

[barren plank]

Ok fair im just doomposting then

[quartz dove]

Its fine

Were gonna be fine

[ripe stag]

It kinda can if you Nanaknight + Hyperreal with Shakespeare + Empy

[quartz dove]

[grand jay]

Hyperreal burn leap

[ripe stag]

Never

They forgot him

[quiet lily]

Cool

[spiral merlin]

That’s actually a good idea

[zenith thorn]

that's like saying running void luna with teddy

[spiral merlin]

Hyperreal burn leap

[ripe stag]

But won't happen
He's powercrept

[spiral merlin]

Not if he’s main burn dps

[grand jay]

LISTEN IF I WAS RIGHT ON NANAMI AND LILITH BEING THE ROLES THEY ARE I KNOW KURO IS COOKING HYPERREAL LEAP

[ripe stag]

Watch as Lamia becomes Combustion executor

[hybrid sluice]

Incineration affix is DoT, it's already doomed

[grand jay]

ANNIVERSARY LEE LEAP WATCH

[quartz dove]

[spiral merlin]

But you can still deal burn dmg in kit

[quartz dove]

Holy copium

What mad cope

[spiral merlin]

The actual effect of the affix doesn’t really matter too much it seems

[raw swift]

nanaknight benched from the get go

[quiet lily]

Lesgo hyperreal leap poggies

[spiral merlin]

Ion shreds because daren isn’t lightning

[raw swift]

add cw to burn

[ripe stag]

I'm detecting more Copium than the amount of radiation near Chernobyl

[quartz dove]

Its fine

[grand jay]

Dude I was RIGHT ON THE MONEY WITH THESE PATCHES

[quartz dove]

Coping is free

[grand jay]

I SAID ON THE ANNI STREAM

[quartz dove]

Blud

[remote pier]

Ded game anyways

[grand jay]

AND I WAS RIGHT

[quartz dove]

We have lamia without leap

[grand jay]

Lamia can get fked

[ripe stag]

I was right spot on with dark affix on CW and CW leap being the one shown in the animated fight of Plume vs CW

[quiet lily]

They should make cw enable all affix, cw op btw

[grand jay]

This is about Lee lmao

[vast crystal]

Games dead tho bro Lee leap already bricked before it's even been made

[ripe stag]

The leap gave CW simps a reason to say "we don't need Nanaknight cuz CW is already too good"

[quartz dove]

I love now one talk about how cluncky nanaknight is

[grand jay]

Normally I'd say no but the gacha skin exists so I'll agree out of principle

[remote pier]

lee leap will prob just boost his QTE DMG by 10% if they do give him one

[ripe stag]

We are internally happy that CW got powercrept from maindps spot

[grand jay]

Unironically yeah

[ripe stag]

CW simps in shambles

[quartz dove]

Thats like given

[ripe stag]

I love to see that

[grand jay]

It sucked playing Lightning

[ripe stag]

BURN

BURN IN AGONY

CW SIMPS

[ripe stag]

Feral was a savior to the boring CW rot

[quiet lily]

So nanami just played monster hunter and decides to main charge balde

[ripe stag]

Rest in peace feral Sub-DPS

[remote pier]

How does nana knight compare to uncle?

[ashen edge]

still too early to compare

v1 is clunky and buggy af

wait for v3 v4 at least

[quartz dove]

Tho im more leaning lilith dark tank than amp as much as i hate capri

[remote pier]

Another clunky Nanami, who would have guess

[ripe stag]

I think she'll be void with dark affix

[quartz dove]

Cus u need gen 3 tank to do dmg nowday in cn

[ashen edge]

all the beta character were clunky af back then at v1

[remote pier]

[ripe stag]

Remember Epitaph's clunkiness?

Back in v1

[remote pier]

Nope, I didn't watch

[ripe stag]

It was hell

Next frame will be A rank Dark Attacker trust

[ebon adder]

hi, i just started the game and read the spreadsheet, just wondering which s rank should i go for in the beginner banner? also which element team do i go for first?

[remote pier]

Glad umbra is making xxi relevant though

[dapper skiff]

[ripe stag]

It won't

Daren exists bro

Wait wait

[remote pier]

Healing trust

[ripe stag]

umbra has no damage of its own ?

[remote pier]

Idk

[ripe stag]

It's just heal down ?

I mean it'll make sense

Knowing the fact

[deft apex]

just like void fr

[ripe stag]

How much useless CW is

[ripe stag]

Void has its own damage bro

It's an element

[remote pier]

#📨・meta-help message

[ripe stag]

[remote pier]

Aether didn't mention anything about DMG

[ripe stag]

Lmao

[dapper skiff]

[deft apex]

the freaking affix I meant ICANT

[ripe stag]

If umbra damage is just dark

Why not use Lamia

[quartz dove]

Cus lamia is dark not umbra

[ripe stag]

You didn't get my point

[quartz dove]

[ripe stag]

Oh btw