#📨・meta-help
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thought I was free from frame perfect inputs when I quit melee wadahel
Time to koopa backdash waveslide hoverwalk moonland ig
if I start the fish mald now, I bet I will forget about wz and miss it 
sidetracking a bit, turns out ive played since the 11th of february 2023; ive been playing for way longer than a year
and to be honest, i think i do know how to do rotations and stuff; generally speaking, i have an idea on what to do
I also tried to do insta excal on test voodoo out of interest for 9 but it seems insane
that 0.1s in intro diff between voodoo and fushen feels like an unbridgeable gap

Idk what their name is
I now understand why galaxy said "you can try it
"
you have all the units, you've been playing long enough to have an established account, and you know how to play; but this doesn't add up to elite
i probably still just suck 
you should be in hero
can't 9s even with fruit dodge?
what the ding.
so something's up
I haven't tried it THAT much and just took 10 cuz it's test but it feels very very hard
thought you can 9s with fdodge, cuz I did 10 without it 
but yeah, it's test so who cares
you used phy for elite too, right?
yeah considering fd is less than a sec diff and it ticked 10 at the very last moment for me, 10 without FD shouldn't be bad
yeah 12s 
me 11 
k 3s rose whel

Ok but like 3 copies from standard
burn a lot of orbs in core > ult1 > basic 1-2x > ult
i’llnjust stream it
okay, wait a bit
i stopped playing during the start of kaleido's patch, and i got back at the end of noctis's. gray ravens is broken for me rn, can somebody check when kaleido's and alisa's patch started?
most important part is sp delay
Wadahel
I legit have no idea how I did it, I just used tons of orbs and made it lul
istg i cant access gray ravens at the worst possible time 😭
for less orb RNG u do fd -> matrix ping, core, 3p with sp delay
for more orbs RNG but it feels faster - FD, matrix ping core, 3p, 3p sp delay
so it was a 7 month break instead
if she hits the A pose then I did it right
no it's just the goofy version
where u sp delay on core
I mean yeah insta excal doesn't work without sp delay cuz u wouldn't have as much energy 
yknow what, you can check my account on huaxu to see if i should be in hero or not
...if you want to ofc. i dont wanna be pushy and whatnot
dalao doing sp delay automatically
it was by accident from spamming orbs and ult 
i have no idea what investment ppl have in hero
but i think its a lot
the place of the dalaos
yeah its usually ss - sss level
and to retain too 
sometimes
SSS in hero is easy 1-2 place unless u insta join and get shafted with a giga whale bracket
anyway i don't see your huaxu posted anywhere 
i may be stupid, hold on
Explore the 39 characters of Coggers from the ap server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
tried sending a screenshot instead
i am incredibly dumb sometimes 
very.
getting into hero shouldn't be a problem yeah
but yeah you should be in hero
i see SS0 and i see sigs
that should be comfortable hero
probably will demote unless u hit good zones for u tho
then the prophecy is true! i just suck!
or maybe I'm overestimating hero people 
hero/leader bouncing is fine but the problem is he's elite/leader bouncing
yeah
which is why i've been going down this rabbit hole bc that's definitely not where he should be
Imagine not getting demoted from EU hero
honestly your account seems pretty similar to mine
i always get extremely overwhelmed by people in hero and above (whatever the name of the rank above it is)
i hover over their account and see sss's with cubs, my ass gets super sweaty
maybe its just me and my luck. or i suck, again. idk tbh
actually your account is slightly better than mine cause i don't have fire 
what
holy hell
this just means im incredibly bad at this game LOL
time to get coaching
skill issue is a better problem to have than missing units
since it's the easiest to solve

true, at least i can hone my skills
My account is somewhat better then yours, and I get booted out of Hero at least once a month, all it takes is a few whels dropping in to my bracket on a ice/fire rotation and I'm cooked.

yeah hero/leader flipflopper is where you should be
Are there any channels or videos i can look for specific rots? i think i got the physical one down pretty nicely, but knowing that i should be hero, im definitely sure i suck at other rots
you can go look on youtube
What teams do u have built
before cw 

HOW ARE YALL SO DAMN GOOD 
Used fire on light zone
before CW lightning was off ele heaven
lightning was the weakest team pre-cw so

ah thats fair
Windbell for low invest PPC, don't copy him, but do pay attention to what he is doing.
and yeah that was when off-ele was still viable
nowadays i really doubt you can retain in hero with off-ele
you can't
lol
i tried it once
massive pain
Especially not after noctis patch
even most leader brackets will demote you with off-ele, in normal circumstances
I scored less on mint's acc with a decent lightning than with SSS+ Palefire and base S empy
Off ele is basically ded after noctis
promoted to hero with off-ele lamia 
Oh I thought I just got worse at the game xD so it was noctis patch
yeah
Well anyways, if u have all teams then its ez hero retain
Unless ur bracket has all whels
Noctis patch nerfed off ele to the ground.
You only deal 0.3x the dmg
and on-ele is 1.3x
Damn
so in practice it's effectively less than 1/4 the dmg of on-ele
Aside from bricked, what could I be doing with my account situation looking like this? https://huaxu.app/players/ap/17449933/characters
Explore the 26 characters of Grimgino from the ap server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
i wanna get this out of the way first. im not trying to be picky here, nor am i trying to validate my total skill issue; i just feel like this is an issue i have a lot of the time.
i do constantly watch low invest wz clears (not ppc bc, truth be told, they're not really my thing), but their units are always ss0; thing is, most of my units aren't ss0. pain.
so sometimes i have to just eyeball it or make my own rots (like fire for example. god, i want ss0 hyperpiss so badly)
Pull every non free S rank basically
Played on a potato phone
...get your credit card ready i guess?
Couldn't even play properly before having to delete the game cuz no storage
Wallahi I'm cooked
all accounts are unbrickable if you're rich enough 
@still bolt did you use standard selector already?
Start by investing in other teams now
On rigor
💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
Trying to on physical
but you have no balter
rigor main dps :bless:
Then what else could I be trying to build with my situation looking like that?
you probably should have used it on cw so you could at least have a lightning team with lux and arclight
Wait wait by standard selector you're talking about the thing that got added this patch?
I personally dont watch wz vids cuz they aint relevant
cw without garnet/feral is still a lot better than balter without rosetta/alisa
yes
I have cw on it but haven't gotten it yet
i see
U can get a basic understanding of how the rot works but it doesnt work for the specific wz ur doing rn
I thought you were talking about the beginner thingy
Cuz each week is different
You missed so many patches it's over
wait a minute hold on, i read that wrong
you used the A rank selector on rigor of all people?
No
you are reading it wrong
Ye
The free selector
oh good. mb tho, its 4am rn for me
ah, makes much more sense
ok so since you will get cw eventually, get your lux to SS
and then you will haev a lightning team
But I'm trying to up my 21
sure
i'm not telling you what to do right now, just that these are things you need to do eventually
Also get Ayla too
you decide on your own what to prioritize
im assuming its bc the weather differs each wz reset?
that but also bc your own investment drastically changes your rotation
Diff weather, diff mobs, diff fluctuation
I mean I see that could be better
for most teams at least
Is probably the best idea since my dark team is copium functional
some teams like fire are really rigid and don't really change their rotation
You have tenebrion already no 21 isn't too important i think
S
Get lux to ss first
but dark/lightning/phys (maybe ice but my ice sucks so won't comment) are really flexible
Base
He works fine
ahhh i never took that into account
so what im doing wrong here is copying a rotation that doesn't really fit my investment
SSS xxi is better than S teneb
Slowly get ur 21 to sss
Well technically fire team doesnt rlly have any different rotations 
Liv to SS and level her up ig
do you guys always cancel hyperbrick orbs in wz?
What do I do after that
Also get ur chars to a decent enough lvl
i think usually not cause the dmg is relevant
Dont leave em at base s 
but you'd cancel it if you don't need the orb dmg or if you really gotta get the ult out asap
Just leave her at lv 1 unless you want to use her on field
And use resources on someone else
Trying to get my physical team out of the way since my situation is that
nanamech to empyrea to hyperpiss, rinse and repeat
truly peak gameplay
Waste of time for barely any dmg 
That makes more sense ig
I usually let em go if they kill the wave, otherwise skip
Wb the qte
Mech > hyper > empy 
but ima try skipping everything now, just to see if it's better 
If u go mech > empy > hyper then fks up ur qte
Yellow yes. Red on the right timing
Is empy stronger than mech
yes
I reached 15k bc 🙏
but then hyperpiss doesnt get the amp buff no? is the qte more worth than the buff?
oh boy, somebody doesn't know how amp buff works

you can clearly see how terrible i am rn
I don't always skip cause otherwise there is dead time until Empy swap CD
maybe I'm not rotating properly but I'm not sure I can without SS mech anyway 
After liv SS, what do I do next?
He doesn't have long enough uptime
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Noctis even tho he's A?
amp buff applies to ANYONE switching in, not just from the amp
Youre pulling for cw
anytime anyone on that team swaps, they have amp buff for 10s
Bro i skip all orbs and theres no dead time
it doesn't matter from who or to whom
Well yes but it's a long time until that happens
Either im doing smth wrong or ur doing smth wrong
oh my god i feel like a fool now

So chrome?
maybe you're stuck in elite cause you're waiting to swap to amp and then swap to dps everytime you rot
Okay tbf i also didn't know this...
do u use pulse in WZ
I assume maybe u stay on her more so when u swap into hyper Empy has less swap cooldown left
But luckily I was too lazy to do it so I was doing it right
No mech
I'm usually late on nana, by the time I finish on her, hyperbrick is already ready since 2-3 seconds 

Depending on investment you can skip nana ult but that's whel
empy invest issue or just skill issue 
idk maybe I'm bad
I've never bothered to learn fire well because mine is bricked for WZ anyway
i saw this one spider2b video where he says that you swap from the amp to the dps to get the buff
and from then on i just thought the buff only applied if it was swapped in like that

poor bro got misinfo'd
😔 ✊ me too...
Not necessarily misinfo'd
it's times like these i'm thankful that i don't care about content creators at all
he technically not wrong because you swap either way

He prolly just didnt understand
probably just phrased badly + misunderstood
if he meant just swapping but you thought it's swapping from amp specifically
Altho tbh all u need to do is read the class skill
Which characters would be must SS's? S rarity Have CW SS and just got Stigmata SS
But I didn't really care about the damage I still did my rotations properly
That's why i only do 2 stacks instead of 3 on her
Every single one since starfarer
And empy
Oh yea since I'm done getting lamia to SS, do I hold my SKULLS rn or use them for someone else?
Yeah y9u skipped ss to instantly sss+ on launch
Fr
Didn't even experience f2p capri
and we't directly s+
Wdym by holding your skills
Skulls?
Skulls
I only got her sss on feral patch 
Read?
Ig you could save for unc but it really depends
Messed up and didn't even notice
We dont do that here
You're gonna have to calculate that yourself cause you need to make sure you get SS watanabe and qu b2b
Ik its a crazy thing

And that's as soon as their patches launch
I can't read
Mega bricked I am
Only got like 200 ish rn
Nah that was just me being tupid and not inferring I thought you said skill points 
Yep you have to save
Unless you have a lot of one time ult ppc achievements you can do before then
New players and their lack of skulls go crazy 

But ur a whel
Nope used my one time skulls on it
I'm pretty far into endgame but I'm still struggling on skulls 
...dare I how many skulls should someone normally earn
1-5% ult gets 60 zkulls a week
My ppc rots are so bad i got 520k on lightning and 570k on dark
I'm assuming you're 10-30 so you get 48
usually for established players easy 5% in ultimate means 60 skulls weekly so quite easy SS for all new units and some surplus on top from achievements whenever new bosses get afded
well an old player that performs poorly in ppc is still better off skull-wise than a newbie that performs well, just cause the old player is caught up
whereas the newbie has to worry about ranking up both new and old units somehow
The main issue is that most chars suck ass at S
Skulls & Skills
And they dont have skulls to ss
good news chat
we're going to leader
They are newbie tho, they ain't gonna play against those whels
At what point point does it get that it's better to not even bother picking up the game than painstakingly unbricking one's account?
you'd be surprised
here's my scores. idk if it brings any help, but im just gonna share it in case it does
They just "compete" between each other
there are SSS gigawhels in leader all the time
Ah yeah, I know
I am leader and own a couple of SSS
oh god
Soon 3 sss (S ranks ofc)
the leader gigawhel is in the room with us 💀
I would call it a curse
Empyrea curse mostly
She fckin come at every blue pity wth
Actually worse than Shuen gatekeeping adv ppc
how does it feel to abuse your wallet monthly?
About Selena i just.... Well.... Vouchers like no tomorrow
never cuz it's always the same
regardless of the time they start, newbies start out with nothing 
I don't get people saying it gets worse the later you start when you're equally -fucked whenever you start
and catching up is always the same
u just get important units from selectors u can and then just get new units and start filling out your teams with what you get
You must need to know what are you going for first, then use some
yeah it's always the same since the old units the oldbies have on you will be replaced
Usually monthly & BP is enough
Then if you do every patch you will start seeing the difference
In Qu patch tho I might really abuse my wallet, those legs deserve SSS



call me a masochist but I like how much work you need to put in to catch up properly
not like you can just hyper invest into a couple of units and hold your own
so your progression feels natural and every upgrade is tangible
I'm wondering what would I even be doing after getting Wata tho, I don't have anything for fire team
Palefire & Sophia 
DPS Wata wallahi
so rn the best way i can improve my skill is to watch ppc clears and study them? i cant rely on wz clears bc they have too many variables
i agree with this except for cases like capri where the progression path is soft locked forever by other priorities
that doesn't feel good
Wata is the dps even if Lee hyperreal is in the team
he's the DPS anyway
the only issue is having to run him solo but you'll be fine
it's not remotely as bad as hyper or Empy solo
solo wata until you got enough voucher to get empyrea and wait til oath Lucia
Better than ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ig
Empy solo 
i'm lowkey doing empy solo rn

after you got a full set Lucia 8 cottie, empy 2222, watanabe 4dv 2 lan
have him exist for two rotations straight then watch his heart pop
on the bright side, he does say that he doesn't fear death anymore
just aa for orbs 
Fr
it's not that bad 
Solo uncle best
Imagine running btch ass kpop idol hyperskip
dont diss my idol like that
I diss whoever I want to diss

I kiss whoever I want to kiss
cow sucks 
everyone slacc in wz dis round if even I managed to get into top 100 score lul
on this note, i just want to say that i hate alpha cw so much
shout out to that one guy who is very passionate in hating alpha
ZADDY
Speak better 😠
theres no other reason that i hate alpha other than her red orb
god that thing feels so clunky to animation cancel
red???
Sanest Ploom Stan 
your problem is RED?? that's the better one to cancel

He prolly means CA red
ohh
Until Qu comes along and I have Alya from dorm ready by that point. The only functional team I'll have is dark.
i find it infinitely easier to cancel on yellow
i have no idea why
no, he wrote alpha cw specifically
no no, i mean crimson weave.
Why you cancel ca red?
Isn't it blue > red > sw

Tell them, imagine hating the most wholesome char
And an extremely copium fire and physical team
What that’s her best orb tho
Yellow is the garbage one
much to think about.
I refuse
With that 4 elements should be covered

Inhaling copium
I do my own runs 90% of the times
how do you guys
have the exact screenshots
for every damn scenario
are these the prices after buff?
Yes
it's weird how pancake is more expensive than sorbet or mung bean paste
Truly the pgr experience
i know its her best orb, and it looks flashy as hell. but oh my god, the windup animation is so long, and the cart-ferris-wheel-thingy she does takes so much time too
What's the name?
Here a pancake is 1.99€
A sorbet is 3€
meanwhile in Kuro land
summerberry pancake
Sell the other one, this one isnt optimal
So yeah, quite weird tbh
pankcake mix are like $0.99

Tho, it's easier make a sorbet than a pancake
It’s so quick huh 
that's what I sell too
just sell 3 and forget about them, no need to stress over it, they gonna slave away anyway 
uh i think you aren't canceling them properly LOL
even with the price increase, all of them sells for less
i admit, that might be it
I remember using 21, Bambi & pulao on the cuisine in the past cooking event
you know you can dodge as soon as you press the orb right
Its almost been a day since I upped to 7 and I got only 2 restaurant buff left to unlock and all my staff are maxed
Child labor smh
i always cancel red orb after the ferris-wheel spin she does
yeah you are spending like 300% more time than necessary in animation
how? and why?
I just realised
just cancel immediately after pressing
@visual topaz has the most Dalao setup
Cooking lulu is kuros way of telling us how cooked we are
I'm not as good as him

they should add a chance of kitchen burning down if you put Lucia in there
really no need for big setups, just make a production line that can produce and sell infinitely without you ever needing to check on them
I have to unlock frozen lulu and pulgorithm for 200k coins
WHAT A FKN TROLL KURO
We are cooked
Please keep slurs to a minimum
That's what I do but I'm still 7 for almost a day now
Please keep fei to a minimum
STUPID YAP BELOW
i do that with balter all of the time
but, call me autistic, because i actually am- i feel like cw's dmg comes from her orbs too, and not just her core passive. so most of the time i dont dodge cancel immediately, i wait until the first instance of dmg
ITS SO STUPID
yeah sorry i will have to call you many expletives for this
what do you mean "still 7", isn't that the max? 
BUT THATS GENUINELY MY REASONING
Wtf is he cooking
almost none of cw's damage comes from her orbs
i flopped @warped dune 
Another day another brick
I didn't get all buffs unlocked yet
i'm so sorry but i am now forced to doubt you when you said you know how to play 💀
who even use cw orbs for dmg? 
nothing
i am cooking nothing
Also need to start buying out the shop
but I pretend like I play the game man
red orbs are kinda ok if u wanna get that tiny bit of extra damage on a PPC boss
HAHHAHAHA honestly i dont blame you man
you hate cw because you're forcing yourself to play a horrible playstyle for no reason than your own misconception
when you need 7 red orbs for the kill 
since it instantly hits
Btw, wata and qu are ez ss
he's not cancelling the followup though 
S glory is dawei
o-oh...

🐳
cw orbs are like probably 5% of her total dmg output
My glory and veritas I never ss them
that's not an exaggerated number

Too much, lower it
Imagine having veritrash 
hey man, sometimes a boss lives with 3 bars on hell and those red orbs help me ok 
Ss4 rn
did this guy just post a pic and proceed to :dalao: himself? 

my condolences bro
Just wait until you got 4 random veritas from std banner like me
I was dalaoing s glory
funny enough i cancel after the followup
after the spin she does. not the big one, but the small cartwheel she does
You don't need to sss her at that point
I'm humble cook
Bro you said I'll get Ss3 lamia
cook wannabe
I got Ss3 noctis instead
you're supposed to cancel immediately after pinging. you're not supposed to even come close to reaching the followup animation
huh, i thought red orb just shanked people like they're in london. 

Veri Trash drops
I never said that 
so its just like balter then. aight 🙏
Humble dalao cook
cw red orb got a followup animation? 
it's even more than balter
Max slanders smh
balter orbs actually do more dmg than cw
all of them do
humble cook in 3 star michelin restaurant
wutdaheck, I never saw them 
he delivers cuisine of the highest order
I assume there's no mem change for brs ss and sss rank?
else I'll build 3 cottie 3 hanna for now
someone should slap u across the face
cause they're irrelevant sadly
bet you didn't see the really cool basic attack sequence either, since it's also irrelevant

so am i supposed to not dodge cancel them? they feel so smooth to cancel, i just do it by instinct

no you're supposed to cancel balter orbs too, just saying they do more dmg than cw's
oouhhh
Oh that one
god the things i do for the 'feel' of it
balter orbs at SSS can be nice if u need the recorded damage, but usually u skip those too if u can kill with ult 2
honestly like legit all of cw's coolest moves you never see cause they're useless
it's really unfortunate
She's a style unit
all I know is ult 1 and ult 2 on cw 

that and crashing a bicycle into enemies
Oh and btw
I get to see her move real fast in 3 direction between ult 1 and ult 2 (7 red strat) xD
I HATE LAMIA'S VOICE
such is why you don't make a naturally clunky character with backloaded dmg
she is stylish, yes; but that style comes with clunkiness. and in a competitive game like pgr, they're gonna skip all of that animation because it takes too long
The amount of times I've heard her voice especially these past few days is outright horrendous
i don't think cw is clunky

I LIKE THE OLD ONE BETTER SO MUCH
but the new one is fine ig
you think she's clunky cause you're using her clunky moves
but her optimal playstyle is really fluid
I HATE EVERY SINGLE FKN THING
You cannot fathom the number of times I've clicked restart

yall, cottie or tifa for cw? ik i am not supposed to rely on this, but i saw it had a ton of likes
Ignore that
Damn bro, in-game recs going hard
i find cw very infuriating in ppc sometimes
aight, thanks ^^...
Oh pls, one of the easiest units to use

gray raven website is good for builds tho, right?
Double slam to ult equal boss dead
Cw is the unit to use when in doubt or other teams tied up copium moments
im at the point where slamming = griefing.
Cw solos
Zero effort slacc run

im doing rush ult 2 strats
the optimal playstyle that requires canceling literally all animations
again, theres a reason why i say the character is clunky; you skip all 6 versions of her orb animations not including her followup mini-qte mechanic simply because it takes too long, exposes you to enemy attacks, and because you want to get that backloaded dmg- the big part of her power budget- faster in a game that 99% of the time wants you to race against the clock
You're probably whel then
well every character involves cancelling, rather i think it's clunky if you can't cancel the animation
sorry for the yap, i just love talking about game design in general; i study it after all
Yes
like for example lamia t2 in primary form is clunky
Lamia core for god's sake
because you can't cancel it

good for starter builds
Be careful, u might get shadowbanned from it
ds kill cw is very fun 4Head
and you're just sitting there while it happens
Stop it, you just have connection issue
that's clunky

Rofl Im joking
Dshark is cringe with pretty much anyone
lamia core gives me ligma

I thought he meant doubleslit cw kill xD
yes i meant doubleslit cw playstyle
Potato user, can't do Dalao strats
i accidentally hit save on a score i didn't mean to save on dshark and now i'm 578k on her
I cant do it, too much for my controller xD
Oh so you're indeed a whel

yes
At least 5% right
You sure it's not 598k?
maybe

we'll see
I try doubleslit and its 1s slower than just doing it regularly xD
I got 598k on dshark
614k on voodoo
i don't execute it fast enough to save time

Oh same then lel
i usually sit at 0 seconds save
I'm even +1 ahhaha
or im 3 frames short off of saving a second
That's sum princess connect level of zaza
Dun think gonna make 100 with this even rofl
~2 frame tolerance goes hard
i believe that a kit becomes clunky when either it takes away the pacing of the entire kit, which is why i credit cw's red orb as a culprit
thing is, kuro knows this and made it so that we can dodge cancel it, giving more options (either to cancel the animation, not do the mini-qte, or do the full animation), so in a sense you are kinda right; cw isn't clunky because you can simply remove the parts that are
but i think a genuinely fluid character is one that can feel satisfying even without animation cancels
funny enough, ember takes the cake for me
When you're facing a whel in pgr but he has skill issues
i love how fluid her animations are in tandem
Isn't it that April fools game
The cooking one
Her skills are about as fluid as a malfunctioning robot
Last week was more fun ngl

i think u might get top 100
unless ur last boss is totally cooked
also i feel REALLY bad for the people rigging cw's orb animations. they know for a fact all of that isn't gonna be seen 99% percent of the time
55 rn, but weekend whels are dif
No way, that mf scored just 5k more than me and he's sss whel
hello i got sentenced to 10 minutes of #📨・meta-help

Maso is trslao
cut off point is 60 in EU
It's k EU top 1% cutoff got increased by 5 players last rot

5 is quite a generous estimate, more like 3 
filled with skill f2p like me
Less populations more whels
Dog eat dog world EU I see
Fk u btch
Please keep slurs to a minimum
Ngl Russians are goated in dota tho
i love they changed % to points thresholds
so eu isn't population kept in comparisson to other servers 
too many years already in debt
It's a gray zone nowadays
yeah just to be safe you should make a new discord server to talk about it and post the link here

Prob only allowed in certain areas when there is gameplay question related abt planning stuffs and not direct leaks without any contexts
gameplay questions
Unreleased content
Can't be helped because there will be some ppl who asked abt their pulls planning or memory sets change whenever new units got released
what memories does secret character use guys
I'm saying abt current units in global memory sets change tho
4 don't
2 ping me
2 for this
4 obama 2 eins
the 6 koya that kurai scrapped
Like for example what balter sets we used when memory rework just got released on beta
Should just wait for the release since everything in beta is subject to change
And we're still 1y away. It doesn't affect us before some times
You know that some ppl just love to theorycrafting
I love the v1 build becoming useless once the v2 dropped 
also most of the mods also ded don't help much too
pov daren build beta theory crafting

People should just grab the cn role and stay in this jail
Idk i prob will tolerate if it's gameplay related questions but delete if someone posted beta pics here
there are also no official written rules regarding the matters too
It's pretty much tamed compared to #💬・pgr-general anyway

post leaks when red fei is on
I don't mind once it releases. But i find the cn lobby way more appropriate to talk about beta content.
and for those leakers, they need to buy a brain before posting something on an official server
Wait did CN beta drop
tmr
Ah ok
The latter one is pretty bad yeah
that's why leaks started
Oh cringe
It would be full of bili link and aether talks if it was 🏃♂️
lorian on thin ice
@shadow holly @pine slate they told me to not bother with it, but 
https://youtu.be/YJh5yE2wZ8U
Team investment:
[SS3] Scire + 6* Weapon [Dark Shred + Shield Reso]
4x Da Vinci + 2x Einsteina [6 Class reso]
Moonhopper [+100 ATK / +10% Dark dmg / Scire sk.]
[SSS] Capriccio + 6* Weapon [10% ATK + 8% ATK]
4x Seraphine + 2x Guinevere [6 ATK + 6 Class reso]
Noctua [+60 ATK / +20 ATK / +10% Dark dmg]
[SS] Lamia + 6* Weapon [30% ATK reso]
4x De...
beta characters broken at beta then nerfed at release
u outscored me in WZ so i got demoted, i flopped my ice run last minute so I couldn't increase my score by killing 1 more wave
wtf henry joe


disgusting
I was considering to improve my ice score but mob ice is so disgusting
those shits that jump away or they get pushed really far
henry pilot me
is the most infuriating garbage ever 😩

ban the pilots! 
u kill a wave and the next spawn is on the other side of the planet
or ayla doesn't hit all mobs with her ult 1 orbs 💀
gonna have to ban trs then
tbh rotation itself was total cringe

i hate ice
I am surprised we had no gigawhel in our bracket
in Qu we trust 
i late logged in to avoid most giga whales
They were in mine
qu ice will not be fun, just heads up
but there's so little people in legend nowadays so i run into them regardless 
i dont like non qu ice either.
thank you for your sacrifice 

indeed 
just rank diff people that have qu eas y solve

im gonna be running solo every element apart from fire
can't be worse than malding Ayla

oh its prolly equally as horrible if not worse
well, she gets staggered, has terrible orb mald, and still has to deal with chrome qte trash
no way, nothing's worse than cow 
You spelled plume wrong
don't some people use changyu instead of chrome
Plume is there for emotional support
At least plume can evade 
Stop the cow slander
pig
Qu is just "get lucky"
Fk off hobo lover
currently 1 Ayla core can ruin entire run by scattering wave
with qu it only takes one lightning strike

she gets staggered, right?
yes
And 1 lightning strike transforms qu into yamsha
stagger is a 2-3 second delay while scattered wave is a complete showstopper
peak ppc

what 
if a 2-3s delay isnt considered a show stopper to you idk what to say
2-3s delay into double envoy jump 
how about 20 second delay because wave is scattered so badly that you need to kill every single enemy individually? 
or double royal guards charge
Oops forgot to turn off reply ping
I understand what you meant but it sounds like Ayla is still top 1 pain
Happened
how could you
didnt mald Qu yet, we'll see in December
How dare you. I'm gonna Greta 😔
nice bestie
grats

its phys/light rot
well I have lightning at least
light mob 
I have rosetta and I'll have alisa
time to ride bike to the end of the map 
off element OP
rigor, alisa and bianca zero good enough? 🗿 🗿
Hi how can i off ele in legend
me playing lamia the day she came out
i actually tried to use dark in legend ice this past rot
Please keep slurs to a minimum

time to ride fish to the end of the map
Same. Doesn't end well
tbh my fish experience was very cozy even in mob zone

she sucks all enemies
comfy fish
Ngl this sounds wrong
just mean that the red ping makes you zoom all the way to kansas and i hadn't realized to cancel them right away
so the first wz i kept finding myself a mile away 
feesh got that beeg succ
tbh lamia wz gameplay in general is so disorienting cause there's all the cutscenes and typhoons and waves everywhere
ah, that explains it, I mostly had issue with fish going bubble mode when I was doing my first runs
you can cancel the zoom?
ok but its NA jk xD wow dalao fr

class
america suck ye
tbh had kinda the same experience with daren 4x3 
class reso double the value cause of 3s amp
ye but thats still really good either way
i mean 5.1k is like being 3k

my peak was 6.3k its ok i guess
still good tho shows u can fight highly skilled players
which is very hard in dota : D
i remember when the first mid towers used to be further back on each side of the river, bullying was so savage
NA 6k is insufferable
Are u EU or SEA, 6.1k EU is pretty impressive
am from sa,but when u hit imortal in sa
u are obligated to play na or eu
so its na rank basicly
na and sa use same region
Yeh true, I play on 110 pingnon EUW sometimes if I want high quality games on my smurf
Good part about being east coast NA i guess
@ashen edge time to add Henry Joe to the sheet 
-1 reso run for 11
3 stack core dalao
I think you get rank number on 6.5k nowadays but not sure

🤤
three pulls is 750 tix
why you want 1k
hmm but 3 pulls is 750
I sense conspiracy
if assumed both SSS is wanshi or wata the better tank for void luna?
they provide the same value for void but wata would be better otherwise
Sss wata has reduced switch cool down
sss wanshi has that too
wanshi does too
He does?
they both have the increased shred too
Damn
all the newer tanks do
Him being free is kinda insane
like i said, they provide the same value to void specifically
but wata is a better unit outside of void
but Wata deals much more damage on field
so same value is your only look at numbers
outside of void it doesnt really matter tho
they barely doin any dmg in void tho
cause that's ele specific at that point so no need to compare
and wanshi is easier to SSS
it does if you're considering the benefit to your total account
ofc it's true that wanshi is easier to SSS, but that wasn't the question
still difference will be noticeable
Need rundown on how babel works. How many teams do you need?
my argument was that wata has 2 teams to impact
wait someone stole my name
both of them do if you're counting void
this is trippy kek
2 Ariels 
I didn't steal your name but I'm absolutely not changing it for someone else.
fight fight fight
nah boo you dont have to
Nah fr tho, I have a great day looking at pgr gph arguments, makes me feel there are more stupid people than me on this planet. Makes my ego inflate
im the original anyway 💅
fight fight fight
Thank you. Some people are very aggressive about that, so
Using Babel support points lowers the difficulty level number or not?
_>
i guess yea. if one is busy the other can fill in
you met other ariels before? ooo
this is my first time
no it doesnt
eh? it's a common name though?
K danke
If your wata doing barely any damage in void then just take the demote and go to vanguard
then it must be me
If you cannot form 9 teams what's the best way of going about it? Say you have 3 teams, would you put them all into 1 boss?
it makes the overload modifier inaccessible so you cannot get max

gonna party with miku
Yeah no, I've ran into a few Ariels on FF14. I am friends with one.
Or you have S+ Luna
what? I used support buffs in every fight and got max scored babel
Anyways this.
I cant max score babel
That’s trial unit
oh I brainfarted and thought about trial chars 

icic. well glad to meet you sister 

ariel is a male name in many places too
it is a male name in most places. arielle is the female version. disney just ruined it
max rewards is just 120 points, anything above that is just to improve the medal
So you'd spread your teams out then?
Yes
anyway @carmine reef thanks for the answer. i'll go for sss wata i think and skip sss lamia
so, I'd make one OP team to get as high score as possible, 120 score is just 1 fight max risk
when did lamia get in here 
Imagine not wantapping babel
If your one good team doesn't clash with your other 2 tho you're just putting them into the other 2 bosses?
arielception goes crazy
softcore compared to the fei day
well my original thought was sss lamia but then i thought sss wata is more value but then i thought oh wait sss wanshi is easier to do and if he can do the same thing for luna then "sss wata cuz he impacts 2 teams" is not a good enough reason. but i understand now. sss lamia is just impacting her. sss wata impacts his team and luna so. letsgo
yea we are wildin
if you consider vouchers
I thought Ariel was just using her full name because I'm on an old mobile discord version, here its fixed
you could just sss both wata and wanshi

but im the only Ariel making a fool of myself malding on ppc while 15 ppl watch me on stream
as I said I would've set the goal to get 120 score
Does babel have a hidden timer or do u just clear it
since I dont know your situation its hard to advise
10 minutes
oh boo you didnt have to swap. i was fine with it
look is ur goal to just get max rewards or get max points on everything this Babel 
cause max rewards if we don't count collectible tiers is 120 points
on the leftmost, easiest boss max points for one run is 175 iirc
so your simplest option is to just use your best team, do one fight there, and ignore the rest lmao
its not that hidden. 10 minutes
hbu score som biches
alright will keep in mind

is you biches?
i am feesh bich
I was doing solo Hanying run but hit the timer 
i'm tryna score...

Im doing solo SS Capri
I am just looking to get the rewards and get out, I don't know how the points work whether they stack over different bosses or something. I'm asking if you can't form a team that can hit 120 even if you sac your other teams, what would you do
if you have 3 teams for example try to clear every fight for 40 points
Just max risk on bp-1
there are 9 fights in total, each one gives 0-120+ points
With uniframes
Okay, that answers it, I am so sorry I'm probably very dumb right now since I just woke up

but any competent team can hit max at first boss
one of my runs was literally solo sigless Luna with eclipse and Teneb xd
just keep it in mind
though ok that's not even competent
any team that does any remotely reasonable damage
team? solo is enuff 
lamia solo op
wasting fish on that stage? 
i'm boomering again but old babel was 5 min 
i have 20 pity on arrival now
I refuse to solo unless its tank dps
ok boomer


camu immortal there too
Real man uses solo noan
yeah but camu does no damage
whel

noan has a decent iframe tbh
does trial tempest have sig?
yes
he actually does there
I didn't even plan to finish it with him, just went in to check what the stage is, and still did it in 3-4 minutes lul
that's why bp1 is so free
prob the easiest 120 is just trial selena then
base S, 5* weapon camu
U FCKING SLUR
ok buddy
real men don't have noan 

real man can't do arcana ig
how can you appreciate his abs in the new skin then
😔
The man put time and effort into building his body, ya gotta respect the grind
ong
shrek
all our waifus are too tbf
whoever made his frame deserves the credit for those abs, not Noan 
yea but i dont pretend they need to workout
true
asimov always gooning
shrek
also i guess its lithos


lithos is villiers

Making a male for gacha players
Skipping issue solved
i can rest in pepperonies for the rest of the patch 
Now I just do lv1 on the other 2 bosses and steamroll them for the clear reward right?
fk whel
damn bro didn't even do the easiest boss
idr are there clear rewards even? if so yeah sure
lvl0 should work as long as u clear the stage
Yeah it says clear bp1 and bp3
Also I picked Fu Shen because I did ultimate ppc last week and had practice
Doing a fight I know by heart was easier than doing a fight that's easier on paper but I have to learn
you'll understand why bp1 is braindead when you do it
but I'd say fushen is the most fun one this babel
Poria*
Daren doko
Its fu shen in glooba too 

fei should be banned for spreading misinfo 
poria
Porra
porque
Truly
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