#📨・meta-help
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The dive cancel is actually easy to me

try to fish 6b3r, thats deal more dmg
Oh that
i got 17s cuz i abused sss cub
Already did
no one knows
blue dup is rng ye
Still s hit
sometimes you get sometimes you dont
R6b3? 
free orbs
now?
Lmao
ye but im down today, ping others to check them 
Whose for black Whales
Yes i see it
SS pet = 18
SSS pet = 17 
In 5
I gotta trim the meat

h or m
I still dont get it about the fast dive to ult thing
H
ok
atsu da chef
huh, what fast dive 🤔
The chaos rm run
Like sp delay?

That looks like normal dive to me
I somehow manage to dodge dot without shield reso
Oh
wait did u spam ur ult while diving 
Yeah
Hm
I live in your walls anyways
maybe holding forward help you ult faster 

wlaks

ye like no sht everytime i hold forward her animation a bit faster 
magic

Ok then when do u hold it
from start 
You use the power of instinct and luck
I’m reading some weird sheet here
Finally!!! After 8 months of playing I finally cleared this mode
My units are weak and not well built I only use the battery but somehow I made it
These are my teams btw
congrats
lmao ice/phys/fire has no tank 
Thanks
Whats this dive cancel? Is that for lamia? Is it usable on wz?
Hahahha yes
Maybe your ult 1 will crit on Bianca if you cumulate 250% crit 
ppc exclusive
hold attack + ult
It's easy tbh
it's for qte activation without wasting time on dive
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who do I hypertune chat
Explore the 41 characters of Hristiyan from the eu server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
I ll take note of that ty!
does it do any damage
or is it only qte activation?
lamia,hyperdeal
only qte
damn
All your gen 2 attacker
Finish the hyperthune on cw first. To get the blue orb start
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What's the 5 means?
No sig weapon
5* wep
waot hang on
@steady otter
you reckon i can 580k Lilith with
212 152 100 (lamia,daren, empyrea)
are any uniframes good mainly asking for Qu: Pavo
uniframes are entirely useless lol
not worth pulling
you can continue build your free camu
bruh... can hanying be used a=outside of qu pavo team
nah
if you want hanying,gotta wait in may 2025 ish for her S rank frame
S phys tank
cuz i got her weapon from a free pull first pull on weapon banner btw
U mean Lilith
Probably?
s rank frame what that
yah,i got mindf*cked
2 1 empyrea better than rozen?
probably idk
i have these chilling in my inventory, is there any upcoming S ranks where DLT is mandatory to have?
qu,uncle,luna i believe
wata and qu
hmm intersting
Wata dlt isn't mandatory
with this new defender which attacker will work well with them
stigmata
also solacetune becomes the main dps
stigmata is the subdps
alisa remains as filler as she usually does

Even tho. His sig gives him enough orb to rotate
oh solace can work as dps
attackers =/= main dps
there were times when tank or amplifiers were main dps
i thought she was the defender
she is the tank
ohki
yes 😛
ik tanks can hv more than one role
Attacker is the role. Dps is about the damage output
and debuffs affect your dps more than buffs do in this game

alrighty time to save >:P
you do not skip any s rank unit
there is no skipping units in this game if you follow meta
But what if im...
not even some
no
nope
You're too whale to skip
🐳

you pull every s rank unless you want to suffer down the line
this patch has already shown potential difficulty spikes coming down the line
am i able to grind enough where i can get the featured s rank every patch
yes
w
all the f2ps here will say so
as long as you do weeklies + events, and dont pull sigs nor cubs
if you are playing daily you are getting enough for every limited S rank and some more currency on top
you must play at least twice a week (once between monday - wed and once between thurs-sunday) and do all the events
f2ps who don’t pull for bright path and skin gacha

Lilith rm and fushen ain that bad 
says you mr whel
this whel flexing
imagine trying to get 580k lilith with dark loonah 
Nah. I'd terb
Lah fish waifu solo it
lilith would die from age
Rozen dps
🗣️ 🔥
jokes on you, when i started pgr I was using tenebrion as dps

can I refund ss teneb skulls?
yh totally (i dont get it
)
you need to clear your weeklies so I advice once on monday and once on saturday (to clear friday + saturday weeklies before and after the reset)
Tenebrion was considered good when I started 👴
it's just ppc stuff
that's the number you need total in 1 week for a boss to get all the achievement skulls
Teneb was considered better than 21 when I started

I had Hanna resoed on my terb
Killing a boss released this week for the new dark attacker. With an older attacker from 2 years ago
look how that turned out
also he was a recommended pull from S rank selector 
oh how the mighty have fallen
Ye lmao 
21 wasn't a thing when i started 👴
I started qu patch
reminds me of that one certain lightning attacker
soon soon
not yet
i would say her falloff starts now but becomes more and more evident post qu
lamia > cw on TB
you have the cash, resurrect him
Kamui is the best boy and best girl at the same time
Cant even if u make him s+ his shitter than my karen
Real 
btw when I say the mighty have fallen it means that they're at the lowest point to which CW hasnt reached that yet
Is S Scire better than S+ 21?
I guess she is, but I wanted to ask anyway lol
ya
@paper bone show me how insane cw is on tb
it's not just because of dark
but because she has another use coming down the line
obviously you'll want her to be at ss0 where possible
Yes, but I don't think I'll be able to ss her ;-;
Thank you 
suuuuuuuuuuurely these 2 are guaranteed, right?
surely
If you do it everyday, you'll be able to get them
what are those
yes
so they have a pity system, right?
U wish
amount of rewards there is limited

It's because of the number of "pulls" you can get every day
once you exhaust certain rewards they disappear from circle

helllo peeps, i need help deciding how to improve my dark team comp in the future
SS Lamia + Sig
SS Daren + Sig
SSS+ Vera rozen or S0 Selena Capri no Sig
As far as i think i know, I need SS3 daren and SSS Selena for swapable gameplay from lamia
but whats the best play for the future?
so at 38 summons i just get everything or what? i am still confused lol
lamia daren rozen
Dude I still haven't gotten the 2500 blue tickets and that's the only one I'm missing I'm going insane 
daren first priority then capri after (use vouchers for capri if you can afford BP)
i haven't even gotten my vouchers which is whats driving me nuts
all i got from "lucky" rewards was the memory usb
like bruuuuuh
is it worth starting to collect selena copies from future f2p selectors?
nah
nah
well I guess but other units have more priority
nah, she bout to get kicked in cn, probably
Bruh the Lilith fight in derived from matrix wtf??? 😭
fair enough
it's either garnet or capri
She has endless hp LMAOOO
we dont know who is next on cn
New nanami looks like dark amp
so if i get ss3 daren do i swap between daren and lamia?
lilith might not even be a dark amp 

yea
noice
New Lilith is fire tank
yeah, probably fire tank
if you run rozen you wont have filler between lamia and daren
Let's hope she's not ice or something 💀
daren will need to remain on until lamia comes back up
Would be surprised if she wasn't tbh
She won't be
void amp 
Nothing screams as dark amp using an umbrella to kick ass
Hey guys. How many rounds is there on Guild expedition? Like is there another round after the current one?
Selena replacement is long overdue
Basically, yes
You can only get each thing a certain amount of times, so eventually you'll get everything
Ye
i think there's 3 rounds
pov void amp
Should be 3, if it follows previous times
is that bad or worth doing anyways and just having rozen qte bot
Yea Selena doesn't even have a leap iirc
It's Kuro we can't say that for certain 😭
Same c':
nanaknight void tank
lilith void amp
imagine 
it's not
in fact it's the only way for you if you dont have sss capri
for elite lilith using lightning, should I guina gloria or lantern on 21?
Ice is in good condition already tho
Which is absurd because they gave everyone and their mama a leap except for the character that needs it most
What I'm saying is we can't be sure she'll even be a dark unit 😭
Watch her replace balter 💀
is your feral harmo'd?
na
That's for sure 
fair enough, thanks mate 
unless tifa on garnet is better?
it's probably 2 slam kill
looks maldy af tho
oh gotcha thx
i dunno if taking tifa off garnet is a good idea
Balter is so insanely popular (as she should) they don't seem to wanna replace her anytime soon
She's still getting sfx coatings too lmaooo
dont forget lamia and luna
most importantly she got her leap just 1 patch ago in CN
and ofc cw
She just got leap
Ngl my theory is nanami being a light tank and Lilith being dark but void is a possibility 
True
lamia isnt 2 years old yet
Somehow this just makes my thirst for gacha even worse
true still 1 year old
Damn I'm jealous 
Yall don’t save up and pull 10 at a time?
and plus i dont think lamia is at the point where she has issues yet

Yeah while the leap doesn't help her in general it still gives her a use in trueslash which means they wanna keep her relevant
Where’s the fun in that
No this is where my gacha addiction goes
what's the expected kill time, 20s ye?
lamia's kit is quite robust
I don't think any main dps are getting replaced yet

might be a bit longer lol
They have lightning tank and dark amp to work on first
I do that 
Also void units
huh? no way, 20s looks very doable
lilith is quite tanky

give it a shot and see how you go
Rip hyperlee I still love ur pixilated face
Same 😔
dont forget her HP is much higher compared to previous bosses
Like the normal gacha already conditions you to do 10 pulls at a time
Meh imma live with hyperlee in wz 
Pulling 1 at time makes me feel like a coper who only has 1k bc to spare on a debut banner
Pulling 1 at a time and hopefully luck sacking it

btw does voucher exchange shop refresh for the s rank shards
I'd do 1 at a time if it was like
Anni banner or BRS banner
And I know that I'm never getting that banner pity back
It never runs out I believe but the discount does reset
Getting excited and disappointed for each and every pull is the true way of gamble
Frfr brs
fml
Imagine skipping pull animations
Pulling efficiently is what I do
it means i couldve been buying capri shards

Skip animations til red
Do I reso cw or wait to reso wata 
True
Reso qu with DLT you have to play her solo for 5 patches 
It aint a lot but kinda proud of it 
hey not bad
gotta start somewhere
and if you're promoting to hero that's progress
Join us in hero
Just hoping I won't get sniped by higher invest
Yeahh first time in hero too
Ive mald too in this like I spend 3 hours just on dark wz 
Is BRS on the Event Card or Blue Card banner?
Btw does dlt orb timer get paused by timestop too?
neither
huh
it uses BC that can be converted to collab tickets
Bruh what
in the event banner
Yeah but I want moa
It's collab banner
I have tari and voldemort in my bracket
It’s joever

Yeah but didn't Nier use normal event cards? Or am I stupid
uses BC to convert to collab tickets also
where do I get 6star weapon resonance?
Play Norman for 6* weapon resonance material shards
This and guild expedition
Is there any other way to get 6 star weps aside from pulling?
What we just said lol
No
U could pray Kuro sends out a free 6* selector to everyone
Which won’t be happening
if there was more, I'd have more weap resos on my units

There are some 6* weapon selectors here and there but they are only for older characters
I wish
"here and there"
"just 1"
there's more than one
It does
Just swipe

Spend ur money
Fr fr

Not my f2p friendly game
Monthly serum pass and wep ticket pass will refresh tomorrow
SS0 r0 cw 55s chaos trailblazer 
Has anyone with similar invest used it on trailblazer yet
tried using lamia?
Lilith 😭
Lamia on lilith is knight through hell
I used lightning on test-elite as sacrifice
Why do I get like 3 seconds of lag when I start chores in the dorms
U should have 2 ap left on lamia for trailblazer chaos and hell
Hmm I'll keep that in mind for next time then
gotta plan before saving score especially new bosses
Btw do we think we're getting an ice boss next rotation?
True
Can’t ever get max score without sacrificing ap
dark boss
I actually hope so
I wanna decimate voodoo after all the suffering I had to go through before lamia
And I feel input lag right when the cutscene ends
I swap and dodge but only swap registers

What lvl is your restaurant in "Ice Queen Lulu" rn, just for reference
if i bought monthly pass a where do i get the daily bc?
I'm at lvl 5 and about 70% there for Lvl 6
on login
chat am i cooked for the back-to-back s rank patches
ok 🐳
more than enough no bait questions
only got 20k total
ohh shoot it doesnt go into inbox?
Especially on bosses like machi lmao
I ignored it for one day and I'm still at 6, afaik I reached 6 almost 24hrs ago

nope
Kill all enemies
kill the bad guys

damn tf u sellin there
might just be skill issue the trial characters are well above the threshold to clear
Which team are you using? And buffs?
Currently selling fruit punch
Everyone does

when are norman crystals going to become useful again? 

??
give them to me
I love how trailblazer randomly decides to travel to a different continent lmao
Literally no gen 1 unit is usable against him
wheres your support?
youre not supposed to be bringing gen 1 frames into gen 2 ppc 
lore accurate
I haven't tried Derived from Matrix, but in Cursed Waves the best thing you can do is pick a meta team and center your attention in it
Also, you should always try to get a tank, an attacker and a healer/amply of each element. Here you're mixing too much things
Also, this
Whaduhell
well then just keep playing until you can get an attacker/tank/support
you build towards what you get
holy skill issue
maybe if you took off all your memories you can do 5 minutes we believe in you sera
5:00
HOLY
Don’t you get like a whole bunch of dmg boosts as well at that time
Imagine timing out in ppc
the game buffs you twice noway you took 2:40


Even connorthoughts wasn't that bad against lamia

"White short girl" which one
haha, 21?
However, you should search which one are the meta teams. For example, in Cursed I see a lot of people using Bianca Stigmata/Alisa/Rosetta, but I prefer CW/Feral/Garnet
At 2 minutes 40 its been buffed 4 times 
First after 1 minute and then with 30 seconds intervals
since when are all regions synced
Please keep slurs to a minimum

While ago
Previous patch. Or the one before

havent played since no21 
you should get to lvl 80 first before trying ex ppc
Adv is a pre tap fest 
wot
Looks like it is 80

I'm lvl 119

hook line and sinker

Perfect for me
okay but genuinely what is taking so long
Might actually switch to adv ppc .-.
atp you should just 1% adv
Idk my lamia just doesnt deal enough dmg?
Surely it’s not cus of no ss rank
@raw swift
If you use teams like that (or others like Empyrea/Hyperreal/Starfarer) you will perform better
Also, try to use the best buffs. In the web page of grayravens there is a very useful guide for Cursed Waves
Whaduhell sig
at least u have her 6*
time chaos 20
155841
time chaos 300
78001

#1 adv gatekeeper in EU
Whaduheck
ult reso is only bottom slot
who?
/joking
ur on top slot
@visual topaz
ewlao is my goat

💔 i admit chat im gigawhale
wth i need 3 excalibur to kill fushen hell
Whaduhell
I’m stuck on chaos
Cus game won’t let me 9s it

whel
f2p trust
Weebing in void
I'm lulu malder wdym
I can't adv anymore
I unlearnt adv to be able to have enough storage space to learn lulu

cant get faster than 42 on tb...
how fk invested do u have to be
What's the invest?
Did 38s (37s possible) with 223 115 cottie capri btw
Didn't know I had cottie instead of guin

im using rozen
fk whels
Do u have any Alisa attempts?
no i had to use all for phys
Idiot
alright, that wasn't doable at all, please send a lightning ref for elite lilith 222 110 100

Could've sacced test for it
What's your time?
23 sec
2 slam or 1 slam
no damage
Shard shop
example :
i have sss+ rosseta , how many shards of her i need to covert to get 1 shard of watanabe tank?
Double slam with ga then
3


garnet 3ping cw 1 blue ult 1 ping slam double 3 ping then ult?
If I buy monthly pass from PC client will it still be available if I log in from android?
Hold dodge before ult 1


yes but your rc count won't transfer
Meaning?
you can still use monthly pass on android
uhhh *5 daren ?
when this boss added to cecila class?
yeah if u have acaxi skill
Just saying it's possible 
Chat what’s gonna be the beguinner wata team (like him znd brs/pulse/sophia/ any elemental amplifier ?)
Or alisa atp
if you have pulse, then him, pulse, and some off ele amp/healer
unless you have Empy somehow 
Halfway to max lvl
Is Lamia a hypercarry? Or CW still holds the crown
Wtf 221k already
Lamia can't be fielded infinitely
I'm probably over 100k at this point ig
so much courage to say this
Should have been higher if I did the test on my alts restaurants
I took a bullet for thay one
*every s-rank starting lamia are stronger than cw
My lightning team still stronger 

Ponzu sending me images of his sss units and then deleting the messages guys

lmao no
which buff?
what team do you have
running lightning team
right side one then
Movement speed
the 2 on the left are kinda useless for you
movement speed doesnt help either tho
Better than -20% on the unit you'll be soloing
Cause its cursed waves its all one taps

solo
shaddap bricked whel
Solo op
so movement speed it is then?
I'm 2nd in my bracket I've only done light zone
say that to my wata when he drops
But I got put in ez bracket filled with noob whales
Yes
ty
Hello i have a non related game question. Whos willing to help.?
Wdym by non related
if it's not related to pgr you shouldn't be asking here

So noones willing to help.. well thx anyway
oh whats meta ice team atm?
Damn I'm surprised
You can ask on off topic
kaleido, plume, glory

ah
that will change in 3 patches
ya 
I'm joking I'm eu 
Okay
F2p can't retain legend here
Bricked
I keep bouncing back between hero and legend
he skipped many teams as well lmao

just has lightning
Bro
Erm actually I didn't skip fire and ice
does pyroath replace hyperreal when she releases? if so no point in me getting him now then
ya
if you want a fire dps just grab wata
🐳
2 patches time
qooapp
i see i was planning on getting hyperreal with the standard character thing
hyper not worth getting on both gacha or any selector atp
bet so ill just save it
Hmmm
unless you aren't lacking units in other teams hyper is very very low priority atm
Juicy ponzu sss
im pulling for Lamia though
well yea also save for wata and qu

kaleido from dorms
well everyone will need wata and qu as well
How do you split ap this week
Even if you had the tickets to pull hyper rn, you'd also need to use the skulls to SS him, which is so not worth rn
im working on Echo😭
anyone who skips either of those are clowning themselves
How many BCs do you get per month/patch?
10-12k
i see so should i skip Lamia then?
so instead of getting the dps for another team u getting alisa 
no point wondering that youre lacking then
no you get all
Fushen: CW Balt Balt Balt Balt
Trailblazer: CW Balt CW Lamia Lamia
Lilith: CW CW Lamia Lamia Lamia
skip lamia and your dark team will suffer
trust me when I say you wont want to find out what happens if you don't have her after her banner goes away
Cw fell off...

i mean i havent spent the stuff yet so i can just get Keido
Yall i am testing starefare (free bc) how does she not get scoliosis with that pose 
Whats karen idol price again ?
328 RC
328 rc
or 10k BC
Too expensive skip
wdym whel
Vera waist are insane

alright
Rich man
For ur alt acc yes
Ur main acc already has it
Whel

She FOLD her spine
Interesting
So tempted to get ss3 balter from selector....
Damn
i missing alot of meta characters probably

Time to study acaxi runs
Yea isn't cryo whel
ss r1 lamia
s 5* daren
ss 5* cappy
Bro
im currently using ss r2 empy as off amp support
Swap cappy out for rozen
i would do that if my 2 other r2 amp isnt already deplted 
Ss r2 empy vs sss rozen 

not like it's gonna make a huge difference anyway
if i can't 580k now,i can do it later on
lilith is ez to 580k with lamia tho 
ice team meta is plume, keido, wanshi?
Glory not wanshi
I can only get 58k fushen what my 5* weapon acc
anyone can tell me which one is better to pull ? Arrival construct or Fate arrival construct ?
yea my bad

i get them mixed up
Neither
She should’ve been a model if the virus didn’t happen 😭
what if i dont have him lol
changyu
ok ty
Feel like looking at cn toxic beauty standard. Where the waist shouldn't more than a4 paper. Thin af
am i tripping why does this not oneshot




Trslao debuff
will anyone actually be helpful
its 212 112 100 should be more than enough to ult kill test
windbell ref is r0 feral yet dude has 22 bars left before ult
WEHAT IS THIS
Maybe his cw has better top reso
@steady otter did you have an ult set in your video for test tb kill
Cub has atk and lightning dmg?
Bro windbell is dmg hax
my atk skill isnt leveled 20 atk not gonna do sht
plus look if he did it with r0 feral then r2 feral should surely make up for a small cub buff difference
How useless is ss3 alisa
need perfect reso i think?
i have same exact invest as yours
not one shotting it
im guessing because my garnet doesnt have class reso but idk
I have same invest too and I 1 shot 
Probably resos
ya 100% reso then
like sure my cw doesnt have an ult set but she has a perfect 6ba 6atk set and garn is 6class
the only problem is feral set because its shared dv set

BUT COME ON ITS R2 DIFFERENCE

Aint no way he run fred right ?
idk man it's windbell
he pulls some damage hax
Cub passive bro 
For test
Windbell dmg hax 
like seriously bro how does he have 22 bars left just from orb damage
I have been saying this since forever
lackking energy
how do u even farm cubs...
how 26 bars after ult1
likewhat
i have like 28-29 after ult1
where does the damage come from
norman
the power of friendship
Cub ticket


That's how I feel when I watch windbell phys runs
I need r2 feral to deal the same dmg he deal with lux
no
ss0 make ult set for what
Ok windbell doesnt miss his garnet blue
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what the-
Wtf this whel have dalao eyes
dalao SS player in tw use 3 ult 3 atk
Im too old for this sht
But for warzone I think it’s more hazardous to do that
is tha why u chose to sss instead?
yeah u right, im not dalao
thats why im not use that set
No I was just kidding xD they probably made that set to deal with everything
like
what
if garn blue hits it still doesnt oneshot
Lorian lao
Im trying to adapt with the f2p mindset
Gotta need in wild
is kaleido better than plume
Yes
Yes
thanks
Hey guys, im entirely new to pgr and wanted to ask, what S char do i use the free voucher for? and who should i pull for?
time to make 6 ults
did u check ur pet skills
Windbell did ult kill with r0 feral
ults kill should be 234 if ss
He's struggling with r2 feral
34 if S rank
5 chars selector - pulse
standard banner - crimson weave
themed banner(current rank up banner) - lamia
i even leveled my atk cub skill just now
its still not enough 💀
lemme see
any specific reasons why those? just curious
only use free blue tickets for standard banner
dont use your black card
cuz i see pulse is a tank and usually tanks arent good in most gacha games
from what ive played anyway
~~time to 3s feral ~~
pulse - the least sh*t chars there
cw - premier light dps,works well esp for beginner,cheap teammates
lamia - premier dark dps
Humm
yea like whrere does that damage come from
ah i know why you couldnt kill it
i didnt even cancel swap in there
swapin dmg
aight, ty ty
lmao
no ss garn shafted
Guys wanna ask, what's better for Cw Alpha
The signature boost build or the damage boost build
get flag'd
u already know the answer
now you got the answer
OH YEAH LEFT OVER FLAG
BUT R2 DIFF
i didnt notice it
😭

r2 aint even close to that
how is base s garnet so bricked
Is garnet core cancel leave flag ?
yes
how do you not have ss garnet
it's basically standard by now
U know what to do then
i literally just got her from the selector on cw patch
Cut him some slack whel
trs start late
like how 3s rosetta is the std now? 
i think?
i technically started and played for like 1.5 months across glory/xxi patches but then i properly started playing on mech patch
ggs
shafted by stupid garnet rank
o
Ey we start at same time

Shut ur mouth u whel too
i was f2p for a year 
nuh uh
for XXI feral is the memory set on pgr wiki not the meta?
Dont nu uh me mr 8k rc
nah im talking about lorian 
who is best uniframe ?


see, both start at same time
I would have sss+ if thats the case
considering theyre all irrelevant none of them should be counted as good but ig tempest should be the best
but lorian has more sss
What about Noan
He got daren idol coating
The worst
Uniframe bad but his story is goated

Show him ur run dazlai


Not recorded
guys, im about to pull her, is it a good idea? with her i would have 3 teams functioning

big momma milkers never bad but you need alisa and rosetta too
std selector on globful already?






















