📨・meta-help

[stoic rapids]

well you posted the rotation before. so i shall follow that. i will be stuck on ss for a bit anyway cause i dont have enough skulls for ss3 on day 1

[carmine reef]

you can't ss3 with just skulls anyway

[stoic rapids]

both rotas had 2 ults but the 10s wasnt there

[quasi vale]

how often they add a new boss to ppc? roughly

[carmine reef]

you need to pull a dupe

[stoic rapids]

im aware lol

[deft apex]

Next patch, then luna patch, then hanying patch, then Lucia patch

[opaque ridge]

new boss every new S rank

powercreep the shitoutta old units

[quasi vale]

so like 3 per year? more?

[stoic rapids]

she doesnt need dlt right?

[opaque ridge]

cn got 3 or 4 already

old man, hulk man, scorpion man and more to come

[stoic rapids]

ah no she does need dlt. alr

[carmine reef]

everyone needs dlt

[stoic rapids]

issokay i have a gold usb for her ready

[opaque ridge]

gold usb?

[stoic rapids]

wep resonance unlock thingy

[opaque ridge]

k whel

[stoic rapids]

it's called norman

but ye i do spend too so

[ornate ermine]

is lamia coming tomorrow?

[stoic rapids]

yes

[opaque ridge]

the time has come and so have i

[stoic rapids]

just in time for dark wz. i finally wont have to cope with capri trying to dps

[deft apex]

Depends, next patch is 3, luna is 2, others are 1

[rose yew]

can't wait to pull lamia sig
||and feed it to luna r1||

[quasi vale]

I need daren sig, gotta 1tap lamia banner

[zenith thorn]

https://youtube.com/@carefreedot

[livid lark]

bot development is coming along swimmingly 🎉

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

Eklao

[quasi vale]

a miracle

[livid lark]

will bring the bot into our other server to let you guys try

[mighty tusk]

the other server gonna be the guinea pig?

[livid lark]

well i can't invite it here

[deft apex]

Can you put lamia scire and capri builds pls

[livid lark]

plus it not done yet

[deft apex]

Also harmo builds

[rose yew]

api from gray raven site?

[livid lark]

no 🙂

[mighty tusk]

4 boone 4 bathlon daren
4 sera 2 cottie 2 eins

[livid lark]

local file LOL

[deft apex]

Also this is such a miracle

[rose yew]

good I got scared for a moment

[livid lark]

woah woah wait one moment

[rose yew]

[livid lark]

I'm going to need some of you guys to help with some build clarification later

it's going to be a big file lol

[deft apex]

That's whel ss3 daren isnt it

[mighty tusk]

ss0 r1 daren

[deft apex]

Uwoogh

[livid lark]

I need to fill in this file basically

[rose yew]

whel daren use cottie for 2 sig move per rot

[deft apex]

Its so fun ive got like 2 or 3 different builds answers

[livid lark]

then once I restart the bot you'll guys will be able to view the builds

[mighty tusk]

ofc it's only if you're willing to harmo daren

[livid lark]

again, this bot is still fresh off the press so I need to check if anything goes wrong etc

[mighty tusk]

I dont get it

[livid lark]

dw about it
just know that I'm adding stuff to this locally

it's not being pulled from anywhere

[deft apex]

New doomy bot

[mighty tusk]

Ek bot

[livid lark]

and I need some of you to confirm the right details

[deft apex]

Ek bot (revised)

[opaque ridge]

use in-game recommendation for build

[rose yew]

wth won't the final product be like thousands of line of just char build and harmo then

wait no we don't have that many unit

[deft apex]

Mfw qu memo rework

[zenith thorn]

qu mem rework doesn't exist

[livid lark]

🙂

[deft apex]

Lao

[livid lark]

it's not worth spinning up a database for this

the file size is so small

[zenith thorn]

tbh just putting 3-4 build is already good enough

i already said this before

only newbs is going to use the bot anyway

[livid lark]

size is only 4KB

[zenith thorn]

smol

[livid lark]

and if we keep this up it wont even break 1MB

with all the builds that people will use generally

anyone have a pic of celica chibi portrait?

[rose yew]

not a whel so no

[opaque ridge]

in game build always provide one build anyway

one build one character, ez

[zenith thorn]

can't u just use 1 script for 1 character
more flexible

then link the $file into the main file

[livid lark]

you mean like 1 file per character?

[zenith thorn]

yah

[livid lark]

hmm...

[opaque ridge]

just make pie chart

[zenith thorn]

atleast for memo builds

[livid lark]

I could if the file gets too big but for now I just want to stick it all into 1 file

[rose yew]

[opaque ridge]

speaking of charts, the expert is here

[rose yew]

either way works so good to go

[zenith thorn]

fair

[rose yew]

I like to make branches like minecraft resource pack folder

[livid lark]

I have to change some code around if I want to do that because

    def retrieve_build(self, character):
        with open('data/builds.json') as file:
            parsed_json = json.load(file)
        
        # print(parsed_json['builds'][2])
        return parsed_json[character]

[zenith thorn]

but I figure it would get big pretty quicj

[livid lark]

I'm basically pulling like this atm

ignore the comment

[zenith thorn]

idk much about json to comment the efficiency

[livid lark]

if I want to do multiple files I'll need to do some file search

[livid lark]

we'll find out whether it's good or not eventually 🙂

whether the speed is good or if it's going to break

[rose yew]

what's the transfer rate of discord app tho

[livid lark]

i mean the amount of data that will be pulled is small

the bot basically grabs a small portion of that json file based on the name that is specified in the command

[zenith thorn]

does json have array?

[livid lark]

then it only uses that to display the build

ofc it does

[oblique wraith]

Hi guys

[livid lark]

if it didn't the file would have been a mess

[zenith thorn]

true

[rose yew]

ye but it's gonna have to search the whole document until it reads the charatcer

[livid lark]

and I would be having headaches trying to figure stuff out

[oblique wraith]

How much serum would it take to max level 25 at the farming event?

[livid lark]

there's like less than 50 frames

[deft apex]

67 serum bottles

[livid lark]

I think it'll be fine

not like i'm doing multiple pass throughs of that 1 file

[opaque ridge]

what are serum bottles?

[oblique wraith]

Thanks mate

[rose yew]

for now

[livid lark]

yea we'll see

[zenith thorn]

something you pay for rc

[livid lark]

if I need to refactor I'll do it

[rose yew]

can I have the token id of the app

[deft apex]

So many bot dalaos

[zenith thorn]

can i have the token id for yours

[rose yew]

no clue if bot can now support charts or not

I don't have a active bot all the others got deleted

[deft apex]

Miku charts on the bot

[zenith thorn]

if it's embed yah

[rose yew]

[zenith thorn]

save chart as jpg
then embed

[quiet lily]

RIP Rapu, banned from pgro

[rose yew]

works for me I'll just make animated bar graphs

and extract the gif from the bot

[mighty tusk]

what?

[quiet lily]

ohh u didnt know?

[rose yew]

who's rapu

[glass bay]

wtf

[zenith thorn]

lisa

[mighty tusk]

what even happened?

[glass bay]

u can get celica in guild?

[rose yew]

ah them

[glass bay]

i wana pinch their cheeks

[zenith thorn]

getting banned before miku is wilddd

[quiet lily]

welp idk if I can spill it here

[rose yew]

obtainable with rc

[zenith thorn]

dms

[mighty tusk]

dms is dawei

[zenith thorn]

gc idc

[rose yew]

the other server kek

[glass bay]

the dorm celica goes to guild too?\

[quiet lily]

why dms when we have the other server

[mighty tusk]

or other server

[zenith thorn]

pls invite me to this other server

[quiet lily]

ill spill there lmaoo

[livid lark]

nnin invited you before XD

[quiet lily]

[zenith thorn]

oh he did?

[rose yew]

mhm

[zenith thorn]

oh yah he did
sorry nnin

[livid lark]

ye and you didn't accept initially

[rose yew]

in off topic channel like last week

[mighty tusk]

smh

[zenith thorn]

i think i was half asleep when i saw that ping

[mighty tusk]

wake up

and go over there

[chrome fable]

can i use cottie on most units like dps and supports so that i won't rely on 3pinging orbs?
rng in orbs isn't fun

[dapper skiff]

Who said you can avoid orb rng

It's inevitable

[halcyon harbor]

is 813k with trials only actively bad?

or is it at least workable/average for trials?

[dapper skiff]

What stage

[halcyon harbor]

combined

[dapper skiff]

It is simulated siege?

[halcyon harbor]

yeah. sorry. I can't think of anything else it'd be confused with so. oops

[dapper skiff]

Well

800k score in warzone is really common

So someone could mistaken it

But anyway

800k is good enough with only trials

[halcyon harbor]

you don't get trials in wz so that's why I didn't bother, I'll be clearer next time

[dapper skiff]

@mighty tusk check dm a bit

[halcyon harbor]

also oki, I plan on pushing later into the week but at least I know I'm not griefing my guild first of all

[modest solar]

As long you did your 3 hits on all sides is what matters

[dapper skiff]

Unless you're in a tryhard guild

Which you should tbh

Guild expedition is only several days more

[raw swift]

[halcyon harbor]

I'm not because again I'm literally only on trial chars, I have a very bad case of performance anxiety (thanks raiding habits) so I don't feel okay with not knowing I'm pulling my weight

[raw swift]

nobody cares lol

[halcyon harbor]

which kinda is why I don't want to stress meta too much in PGR tbh. it's a habit I'm trying to break. good enuf is good enuf

[modest solar]

The important thing is you do your attempts

Not doing them at all is worse than having a lower score

[frozen berry]

Does pity carry over? if i pull 30 on lamia will I still have the 30 on epitaph banner?

[carmine reef]

yes

pity carries over to same name banner, so regular debut banner will carry over to next regular debut banner only, fate debut banner will carry over to next fate debut banner only, arrival banner will carry over to next arrival banner only

[sleek basin]

sure, but why do you want to build pity

[rose yew]

I like to keep my pity number at 39
because I can
and it's Miku number

[sleek basin]

should keep it at 69

ik it's not possible outside of fate

[rose yew]

high risk of early S rank

[chrome fable]

not getting lamia?

[frozen berry]

cause i want lamia and epitaph and qu but dk if i have enough for all 3

[chrome fable]

do all events

do all story quests, dailies, weeklies

don't pull in other banners aside from the guaranteed banner

also, lamia and watanabe has patch in between that is save patch

even if watanabe and qu are back to back, the down time patches are enough as long as you do all stuff in game

[cerulean grotto]

Do guilds still tryhard?

[chrome fable]

are your guilds still active?

[cerulean grotto]

One of the top 5 guilds of NA

[split onyx]

What's the best add-ons for crimson weave for the into the deep event

[dapper skiff]

Hmm?

Wym

[cerulean grotto]

Tryhard siege

[dapper skiff]

What siege

It's ge

[cerulean grotto]

Simulated siege

[dapper skiff]

I mean some guild still tryhard gb just for lb

Pretty much everything else about guild tbh

[cerulean grotto]

[rose yew]

uhh
anything that gives orb and damage bonus

[cerulean grotto]

Mah guild slacc

[rose yew]

you're kinda late to the event tho maintainence is in 13 hours time

[chrome fable]

@split onyx

[livid lark]

@gritty walrus thanks for giving me access to your treasure trove of images

bot is working well

[cerulean grotto]

@livid lark how's your progess mr. Tech guy

[livid lark]

check other server

[chrome fable]

what other server

[livid lark]

not for your eyes

[gritty walrus]

[livid lark]

you'll see later if it works out for me

[chrome fable]

wdym

[livid lark]

the missing builds

[chrome fable]

you the guy working on bot info?

[livid lark]

other server is private server for some of us here only

[livid lark]

no the guy who made cogs quit

[chrome fable]

doomy quit?

[livid lark]

as you can see in that image, the bot is different

yea

the last build was feral's

everything after doesnt exist

[chrome fable]

da vinci on echo?

[livid lark]

when the bot is good to go, if the pgro mods are fine with it they can add it here

[livid lark]

yea

[chrome fable]

so far from grayravens recommendation of cottie and darwin

[livid lark]

im still making it atm

[carmine reef]

HUH?

grayravens is NOT recommending cottie and darwin on echo what are u on

[cerulean grotto]

@livid lark why 4 Signa for off element on alisa

[bitter matrix]

??

[chrome fable]

oh wait, not echo, that was kaleido

[cerulean grotto]

[carmine reef]

[livid lark]

4 signa 4 guin from snazz

I need to add more notes
builds not complete

[cerulean grotto]

What's signa effects again

[livid lark]

OH WAIT

[cerulean grotto]

Yeah np keep it up

[livid lark]

see what i mean

[carmine reef]

yeah wait that's a good point why signa for non phys

[livid lark]

lol as i said some stuff was going to be wrong

still in testing phase

[cerulean grotto]

It's ok bro

[quiet lily]

bro cooked too hard

[deft apex]

just make -shit up we'll fix it later

[livid lark]

figuring out the code was harder actually

[dapper skiff]

Bro went to overcooked category

[livid lark]

the build you guys can correct me

[dapper skiff]

[quiet lily]

real

[livid lark]

more important for logic to be correct

[chrome fable]

did doomy stop playing pgr now hence the quit?

[deft apex]

overcooked to perfection

[cerulean grotto]

Me no dalao

[livid lark]

correct

[carmine reef]

doomy stopped playing ages ago

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

and stopped developing the bot as a result

[carmine reef]

he was a cn player so feral in cn was well over a year ago

[chrome fable]

oh

[dapper skiff]

Maybe the right build was the friendship bullshittery we made along the way

[livid lark]

if my bot is fine to be invited here I'll add your beginner guides as well so you dont have to keep searching for them

just type command

[cerulean grotto]

@livid lark actually, you just do the skeletal work and fill in the images, the main technical stuff can be done with focus later

[dapper skiff]

What guide

[chrome fable]

do you guys use grayravens as guide

[dapper skiff]

I just put bunch of words together and it become that

[quiet lily]

ur pasta dummy

[chrome fable]

for the bot

[deft apex]

barely

[dapper skiff]

Who call that guide

[cerulean grotto]

Us mortals

[quiet lily]

its a guidance for us

[livid lark]

it's all embeds actually

[chrome fable]

us noobs

[livid lark]

i'll show you what I mean later

[livid lark]

not exactly

a lot of my knowledge is sorta based off doomy's bot + stuff I learnt over the years

and I just added to the bot

[cerulean grotto]

Just make ss and ss3 builds for now

[livid lark]

ok

[cerulean grotto]

Ask the Dalaos for whel builds later

[livid lark]

mhmm

[dapper skiff]

Info dumping?

[rose yew]

no we're brain dumping

[carmine reef]

i like that

that's very miku

[livid lark]

[dapper skiff]

[livid lark]

a little early but yea

[quiet lily]

poverty 2 cottie build

[livid lark]

that one got no harmo

[quiet lily]

[livid lark]

here we go

[odd thicket]

does cw, rozen n rigor makes a decent team for main quest n stuff?
i dont have garnet n feral for cw yet

[rose yew]

if you mean main story yeah that team works

lux would be better choice rather than rozen

[odd thicket]

aight thanks

[rose yew]

[quiet lily]

miku is behaving good

[rose yew]

I need more lux copers
gotta push back the feral woofs

[sleek basin]

[iron pine]

hi there, for a new player should i pull for Crimson Weave, Balter or Lamia?

[carmine reef]

lamia

[shadow holly]

you should pull for all new chars that are coming out

[iron pine]

[carmine reef]

backpulling is a risky move in this game

all of them are good but just you want to prioritize release chars

[iron pine]

backpulling like pulling for older chars?

[carmine reef]

correct

[iron pine]

i see

[shadow holly]

just pull debut banners and get older chars thru selectors n stuff

[iron pine]

[shadow holly]

higher priority is guaranteeing newer ones first

[carmine reef]

if you play actively you can guarantee every single release character

[quiet lily]

[carmine reef]

but that guarantee doesn't extend to old characters, you gotta be patient and get them in other ways

if you use resources on older chars you might leave yourself bricked for a new char and that's a worse situation to be in

[iron pine]

lamia is tonight right? i havent started the game yet was just looking at new player guides on yt and stuff

[carmine reef]

tonight, tomorrow, something like that

idk where we all live

[iron pine]

[shadow holly]

btw new player guides on YT from who

[carmine reef]

oh yeah

[quasi vale]

[carmine reef]

pgr youtubers are mad sus

you should definitely just ask here instead LOL

[quasi vale]

gotta be connor

[carmine reef]

[shadow holly]

Connor goes crazy

[carmine reef]

[remote pier]

Connorlao OP

[shadow holly]

[iron pine]

Gray Raven Radio

[dapper skiff]

Nah

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

B**ku bro

Peak cc

[iron pine]

is this person bad to watch

[carmine reef]

[shadow holly]

oh gray raven radio alright
I guess

[iron pine]

[carmine reef]

they're like

[iron pine]

any recommendations?

[carmine reef]

accurate info but geared towards newbies only right?

[iron pine]

yes that would be nice

[shadow holly]

towards casuals/new players

[quiet lily]

GRR content are more towards casual side, but yea they good good

[iron pine]

dont want outdated info

[remote pier]

They had weird takes once in a while

[carmine reef]

i guess they've received gph's seal of approval

[iron pine]

they said to skip lamia and save for the fire tank and ice girl banner in november in that video

[carmine reef]

HUH

[dapper skiff]

"gph seal of approval"

Whaduhelll

[carmine reef]

never mind LOL

[iron pine]

but dont think i can survive without pulling that long haha

[sleek basin]

What

[dapper skiff]

Who made that

[quiet lily]

well their Pull or dont pull recs can be skipped

[safe apex]

Yall. As a new player, what banner does one pull in for their first S rank?

[dapper skiff]

Themed event

[carmine reef]

do not skip debut characters ever

[safe apex]

Asking for a friend

[dapper skiff]

You can also pull on standard Checked Research next update for a guarantee chosen S rank with blue tickets only

[iron pine]

whats a debut char by the way

[carmine reef]

new char

[safe apex]

Ah oke

[shadow holly]

it's uhh just new chars
on their patch

[carmine reef]

character that is debuting

[sleek basin]

The ones that are debuting

[iron pine]

oh skip reruns and pull for new chars

[carmine reef]

correct

well let me amend

[quiet lily]

ye dont pull rerun, scam 70% rateup banner

[carmine reef]

you want to pull for every new S rank that isn't free already from some other source

like for example alisa came out this patch but she's free from dorm so you wouldn't pull her

[shadow holly]

cause chars on their own patch have 100% rateup - so no 50/50 no offrates
rerun banners are 70% for the one you selected + you're using up pulls that can go to new chars which is a stronger option

[iron pine]

[carmine reef]

and in two patches brs will come out but she's A rank so don't pull for her cause she's not meta relevant

i mean pull for her if you want her but know that it will hurt your account's chances at meta relevancy

[dapper skiff]

Reruns in pgr are sht

[carmine reef]

[stiff elm]

Theres reruns?

[sleek basin]

Catching up is hard af, that's true

[iron pine]

can you get dupes for character other than pulling more copies of them?

[carmine reef]

what do u think arrival is mint

[stiff elm]

I thought an event plays and its added permanently

[shadow holly]

arrival

[quiet lily]

arrival banner

[stiff elm]

OHHH i was thinking of diff typa rerun

[carmine reef]

yes, and more for some than others

[iron pine]

[carmine reef]

ppc shop lets you get 1 dupes' worth of shards for any character (except collabs)

[stiff elm]

Do NOT point me out on it trs

[carmine reef]

voucher shop lets you buy shards for certain characters

[shadow holly]

in one of the weekly modes u can get currency to get characters to SS rank
not more tho it's limited to 30 shards

[carmine reef]

bp has shards for certain characters

[stiff elm]

More like just SS since a dupe would have to be like 50

[carmine reef]

uh. no?

[stiff elm]

Well unless its pull dupes

[carmine reef]

s rank dupe is 30. r u high?

[sleek basin]

Btw, speaking of lamia
Does dark team keep the usual rot order (cappri - daren - feesh)?

[stiff elm]

Yes.

[carmine reef]

50 shards is to unlock, that's not a dupe

[stiff elm]

My brain is mush after doing mental acrobatics on a tower defense

Trs saw my brain turn into liquid in real time

[spiral merlin]

Should be

[quiet lily]

if ur daren can on field, then ye

[sleek basin]

She can
Thanks

[spare heath]

How long does it take to ss one character from ppc

[carmine reef]

depends on your placements but

[shadow holly]

like a couple of patches if you rank decently enough

[carmine reef]

like 9 weeks if you're placing average

[chrome fable]

i didn't know echo has somewhat similar way of unlocking her core passive with hyperreal

[spare heath]

why does it take so much time;-;3 months gaw daym

[shadow holly]

ye if ur top 30% in ultimate at least then u can SS all new chars

[carmine reef]

that's slightly over 2 months

[mighty tusk]

you still have ppc achievements though

[iron pine]

if i pull lamia, will i be able to build a team around her?

[shadow holly]

yes

[mighty tusk]

21 and rozen

[spare heath]

how much do those give

[iron pine]

[carmine reef]

dark is really accessible rn

well budget dark LMAO

[shadow holly]

though keep in mind your goal is to have a team of each element in the end

[mighty tusk]

75 per boss 580k points

[spare heath]

but the meta team tho😭

[chrome fable]

how much skulls in that rank? i get 30 skulls in same rank in advance

[iron pine]

can i get them from free 6* ticket? i remember hearing we get one

[shadow holly]

48

[sleek basin]

Gap is insane

[carmine reef]

xxi and rozen are A ranks

[spare heath]

ok so that can speed up by a LOT right?

[mighty tusk]

they are a-ranks (5*)

[carmine reef]

still better than landscape of fire rn

[mighty tusk]

it will help for sure

[carmine reef]

budget team beats no team

[chrome fable]

2nd gen dark units = capri and scire, do they need sig?

[sleek basin]

Real
No budget fire tank until Bridget

[carmine reef]

kinda yeah

[mighty tusk]

do you have ss3 scire?

[spare heath]

hm I have cw I'm about to get Bianca and lamia who's the highest ss priority

[mighty tusk]

lamia imo

[chrome fable]

or can i cope with 21 and rozen instead?

no capri nor scire

[mighty tusk]

yea you can cope with a-ranks

[frozen berry]

If i go for lamia is it better for me to use standard select on cw or daren? Rn i only have noctis SS for lightning and i have no dark characters built

[spare heath]

I have s karirna and s capri😭

[shadow holly]

Bianca below SS kinda unplayable she didn't even have QTE trigger on ult

[chrome fable]

getting lamia means she'd get scuffed with rozen and 21?

[spare heath]

But don't have any resources to get them to ss or higher

[shadow holly]

lamia base S isn't too bad

[mighty tusk]

since when do gen 2 playable at base s?

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

[chrome fable]

or can they still perform well at 3S even tho Aranks? ss lamia

[spare heath]

I mean there will be another selector

[shadow holly]

some of them are better than others

[sleek basin]

U should get lamia nonetheless

[mighty tusk]

yea and you solo with lamia with that teammates

[carmine reef]

let it be known, right here, right now, that trs said lamia base s is fine

the bricklao legend lives on

[mighty tusk]

base s lamia

[spare heath]

base a lamia

[chrome fable]

bro is sticking trs in stage

[mighty tusk]

TRSlao has spoken

[old dune]

On ice warzones and Bosses is it better to use my S Plume, S Kaleido and Wanshi (no memories on wanshi/Plume but full memories on Kaleido. Rank 5 Weapons)? Or do i throw my SSS Full lightning Team at it?

[shadow holly]

they both want SSS because they have great SSS passives
it's just gonna be a weaker version of the meta team because ur forced to solo onfield Lamia, XXI provides less shred than scire etc etc

[shadow holly]

you use Plume, Kaleido, and changyu

you can't play without a tank
no tank = you deal no damage

oh wait

[spare heath]

when should you have a copium enough team to be of elementing with your built team?

[shadow holly]

no memories on plume LMOA how did this happen

[chrome fable]

both changyu and glory don't have ice shred in kit, need sig?

[mighty tusk]

yea

[sleek basin]

Off element is horrible tbh

[old dune]

i got her a few days ago

[carmine reef]

that's correct but you can have shred with eins at least

[mighty tusk]

but tank class is still important

[carmine reef]

and they still have tank class passive as well

[spare heath]

Isn't it only 30%

[carmine reef]

"only"

it's 0.3x off ele vs 1.3x on ele

[shadow holly]

u deal less than a fourth of your on ele damage

[carmine reef]

you're doing literally a quarter of the damage

[shadow holly]

[spare heath]

wait I thought it was you deal 30% less

[old dune]

so should i use Garnet and plume+Kaleido then?

[chrome fable]

does lucid dreamer have no ice shred as well since they recommend eins on his build?

[carmine reef]

no because that would be 0.7x

[old dune]

other tanks arent built

[carmine reef]

he has ice shred

[spare heath]

OH ok that's really bad

[carmine reef]

eins stacks

[mighty tusk]

the off-element wz penalty definitely punished CW players that use her off-element

[shadow holly]

tbf if it's full SSS meta lightning team with Garnet and feral then yeah it would be better than giga poverty ice

[sleek basin]

Eins is used on every ele tank tbh

do not mention harmo dark team

[shadow holly]

phys tanks

[carmine reef]

damn third try still didn't get it

[old dune]

well, i have full build Kaleido and can start building Plume

[spare heath]

im tech a cw player since my account is 2 weeks old and im still gathering and saving resources for other characters 😭

[carmine reef]

fourth try's the charm as they say

[spare heath]

ganna be a lamia simp tho

[sleek basin]

Tho idr if wata carries eins or not

[spare heath]

🙏

[carmine reef]

he sure doesn't

[mighty tusk]

wata and eins?

[old dune]

or should i use SSS+ Rosetta?

[carmine reef]

if you want eins you bring nanami

[sleek basin]

That's the thing
Idr

[quiet lily]

lee goes eins fk it

[shadow holly]

stop taking things out of context or you'll get spanked

[carmine reef]

ok bozo

[mighty tusk]

you never hear anyone recommending eins on wata

[carmine reef]

say that to this picture i have framed on my wall

[shadow holly]

[mighty tusk]

they will recommend cottie

[mighty tusk]

@shadow holly lao
base s lamia

[chrome fable]

grayravens recommend cottie on him

[carmine reef]

that's correct

[shadow holly]

Empy is supposed to have eins but that's either pre rework or with human rights fire post rework (SS3 hyper)

[rose yew]

empy holds guin and ein later on

[mighty tusk]

wouldn't eins be better than guin though?

[rose yew]

4dv too for ppc

[sleek basin]

Figured

[mighty tusk]

shred > buff?

[shadow holly]

well yeah it is

[chrome fable]

do i have to change empy's build when epitaph comes?

[mighty tusk]

dv holder in wz btw

[chrome fable]

i had her with cottie

[pine slate]

u deal less than 25% lmao

[shadow holly]

but what were you trying to say here

[carmine reef]

you'll change off cottie as soon as empy damage stops being important enough

[shadow holly]

inb4 people with Empy who deals more damage than their hyper (cue ew)

[old dune]

so off element does 0.3* damage, on element 1.3* and phys 1* right?

[mighty tusk]

which is better number-wise? I mean too much buff and less debuff, stuff like that

[shadow holly]

phys follows same rules as other elements

[carmine reef]

me (my currently nonexistent but soon S empy will do more dmg than my forever nonexistent hyper)

[old dune]

so it's feast or famine then?

[chrome fable]

can i use cottie on alisa or do i have to follow philip in grayravens?

[shadow holly]

yes
that's why u want multiple teams

[carmine reef]

you don't want nor need cottie on alisa

ideally you wouldn't use phil on alisa since ideally you want harmo for 4dv

[chrome fable]

what if no sig?

[carmine reef]

then you can use 2phil or 2dv

but it's cope

[chrome fable]

i dont have lumi

[mighty tusk]

alisa better qte bot

[old dune]

i see, i got SS-SS3 fire, SSS lightning, SSS Phys and S if at all on ice/dark. Which one should i focus first of the ones left?

[shadow holly]

eins should always be better because 15% shred vs 10% ele buff and ele buff is always more diluted due to innate buffs/amp class etc
while eins buff can only get diluted by the tank's innate shred

[chrome fable]

i'll just use both entropy and echo as dps then
then have them both on cottie to get their ult up fast

[dapper skiff]

Brain ded

Empty thoughts

No think

[mighty tusk]

yea, that's what I was also thinking

[sand laurel]

[stiff elm]

Eins vs guin?

[dapper skiff]

Welp

Time to ht your tank

[chrome fable]

wouldn't this boil down to what is the priority order in dmg equation?

[shadow holly]

I mean
you'll have your dark with Lamia
not like you can rly focus on specific teams tho you just build around what units come out and just replace units in case a newer alternative comes out

cause an SSS team with outdated units gonna be worse than an SS team with new stuff

[old dune]

i see

[sand laurel]

whats best team for halmet rn?

[rose yew]

lamia soon

[mighty tusk]

dark with lamia

[old dune]

for dark i got selena to 49/50 shards and am waiting to pull a copy, is vera good enough once i get lamia until then or do i use SSS alisa till then? (i have tenebrion for now, hope to get Scire soon)

[mighty tusk]

does alisa have weap resos?

[bitter matrix]

Uhh that doesn't sound right they were most likely talking about the basic banner selection

[old dune]

one weapon reso

[shadow holly]

if Alisa is r2 she would be a better option than Vera due to better buff durations and also harmo for more memory buffs

[old dune]

r2?

[spare heath]

what rank would my s rank be if I got 50 shards

[shadow holly]

2 wep resos

[iron pine]

oh ya that one, something like it can gurantee 6* at 40

[old dune]

i see

[bitter matrix]

Yes that

[carmine reef]

SS2 (same as SS0 but close to SS3)

[iron pine]

[shadow holly]

at r1 probably can be around the same or a bit better too

[mighty tusk]

guin + permanent SAR

[spare heath]

hm is ss2 Selena better then vera?

[carmine reef]

no

[shadow holly]

atk buffs from wep resos should be less diluted than elemental damage buffs + 4guin drone buff is like 15%?

[spare heath]

;--;

[mighty tusk]

memory guin

[velvet hedge]

Guinevere ★★★★★★

2 Piece Set

Heals for 10% more. Increases the Elemental DMG and Resistances of the healing target by 10% for 5s. Has a cooldown of 8 seconds.

4 Piece Set

A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP, healing allies in a 5m fan-shaped area for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Elemental ATK by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

HP

1528

CRIT

64

ATK

132

DEF

223

[shadow holly]

and yeah SAR provides perma uptime buff

[carmine reef]

also capri doesn't have an ss3 right

[mighty tusk]

ofc not

[old dune]

also for weapon resos, do i prioritize the amplifiers or attackers?

[mighty tusk]

I'm dying to have her more passives

[carmine reef]

yeah so your ss will be the same until sss

[bitter matrix]

As a new player you should be able to get both epitaph and Qu np with the extra bc income you have as a new player

[iron pine]

[spare heath]

ok so basically no matter what I do it's cope

[shadow holly]

just don't skip anyone
better use the standard banner selector to backpull someone important

[spare heath]

why is capri so hard to build

[mighty tusk]

cope because new player

[spare heath]

she needs her sig as well?

[mighty tusk]

*dark so hard to build

[shadow holly]

Capri got the heavy case of free unit syndrome as aether likes to say

[spare heath]

il just build lamia and forget about it

[mighty tusk]

who cooked that ss capri passive?

[woven sable]

@hidden forum u gonna be awake at server open?

[shadow holly]

[spare heath]

she's a free unit who's useless until paid😭

[stiff elm]

lamimimimimimimi tmrw?

[mighty tusk]

an expensive woman, and still useless

[spare heath]

wait Teddy is also a dark amp right?

[old dune]

for lamia, as a dolphin, do i go for SS, SS3 or SSS?

[mighty tusk]

dark support

[manic lantern]

Nah Capri actually pretty decent for newb as only dark you got since she's quite agile

[spare heath]

better then vera?

[manic lantern]

And got tons of self healing

[spare heath]

vera better tho

[mighty tusk]

only for early game

[mighty tusk]

so yea, capri decent until she becomes not useful

https://tenor.com/view/selena-pgr-pgr-selena-selena-pgr-capriccio-gif-8297644223699983182

[stiff elm]

what does song of protection even do

[shadow holly]

she's like the same
she unlocks the 20% dark buff on QTE earlier but I think it has lower duration lmao
so if you already have SSS Rozen no real point in bringing teddy

[stiff elm]

and why does it last 3 seconds 😭

[mighty tusk]

ss?

[sleek basin]

Don't think about sigs if u r f2p

[mighty tusk]

ss capriccio

[carmine reef]

teddy is way better IF you're running full A rank dark team and have to onfield her

but as qte bot no reason to change from rozen

[hidden forum]

Sleeping

[spare heath]

aight

[hidden forum]

[stiff elm]

what about the 10s dmg boost when switching characters with amplifier in team

[woven sable]

Smh im waking up early for it

[carmine reef]

teddy's not an amp bro...

[spare heath]

daymm but don't a few characters neeed there sigs

[hidden forum]

[woven sable]

When u wake up?

[spare heath]

like lamia Watanabe etc

[stiff elm]

I thought you were comparing all dark supports-

[hidden forum]

Like rn when u pinged me

[carmine reef]

mint

[mighty tusk]

they would like sigs, but not priority over getting future units

[shadow holly]

f2p can get most sigs
people just get hung up on getting sigs so they mess up
if budgeting properly getting sigs shouldn't be an issue

[river nymph]

[gentle root]

Where can I talk about pgr lore
I have some questions?

[carmine reef]

i have to say, it's impressive how much of a roll you are on today, in terms of getting everything wrong

[spare heath]

I pray on ma luck

[stiff elm]

garnet replacement when

[warm imp]

#🎲・glb-lore

[mighty tusk]

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/976268956279144458

[stiff elm]

rn cn is on like, uhhh

what was her name?

[gentle root]

Oh xd glb got me confused
Ty for the help

[remote pier]

Isn't it almost 10?

[hidden forum]

Yea

What’s wrong about that

Normally I wake up 2 hours later

[mighty tusk]

if said lightning tank does not powercreep cw as main dps, lightning will not be on top

[hidden forum]

[spare heath]

emperiya has also been meta for a while now right

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

yea, more than 2 years

[stiff elm]

what patch is CN on, I forgot the character's name

[opaque ridge]

whos emperiya?

[mighty tusk]

yatta

[river nymph]

hi3 character

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/fu-hua-honkai-gif-25209926

[spare heath]

How hard did cw get power crept

[carmine reef]

she hasn't yet

that's the problem lol

[mighty tusk]

not yet, no one to replace her.

[manic lantern]

I got Karen ss3 with sig. My Selena only SS with 5* and she does far more damage then Karen shite

[mighty tusk]

it's also a problem since cw is too slow

[spare heath]

I meant how hard did she fall of mb

[carmine reef]

uh you're definitely not playing karen right then LOL

[spare heath]

how did she fall of so hard??

[mighty tusk]

not preferred to use in onslaught ppc

[manic lantern]

Karen also useless before ss3 sig.

[mighty tusk]

in baseline invest in cn wz, lightning does not score higher than the other elements

[distant wren]

other teams got stronger, that's all

[manic lantern]

Before I had that she was like feral just unplayable before you get it

[spare heath]

a bit to much stronger ngl😭

[mighty tusk]

but still needed though

[opaque ridge]

cw doesnt need a team

crimson solo

[spare heath]

[shadow holly]

[stiff elm]

when will I have a full SS squad

[shadow holly]

[chrome fable]

can i just run capri from event shards and skip lamia since i dont have scire?

[carmine reef]

bruh.

yeah you can do that if you want to brick your account insanely hard

[shadow holly]

man ur already bricked to high heavens and you wanna completely delete your dark team too?

[mighty tusk]

lamia is stronger than both

[carmine reef]

lamia probably does more dmg in a single rotation than capri could do in an entire warzone

[chrome fable]

i have rozen, 21, and astral...

[mighty tusk]

with lamia expect to get 800k+ score

[chrome fable]

lamia solo?

[shadow holly]

more like + 1.5m score lmao

[carmine reef]

i mean considering what division he's in prolly way more lol

[mighty tusk]

yes lol

[manic lantern]

Yeah, smth... I always end up having no orbs and have to attack abit or time a dodge to get 3 stacks of orbs with selena + scire + no21 swapping between selena and scire.

[hidden forum]

What are u saving ur black cards for then

[shadow holly]

[chrome fable]

lucid dreamer

[hidden forum]

[shadow holly]

[hidden forum]

U can get him for free

[chrome fable]

[woven sable]

Idk if u can watch my pulls then

[hidden forum]

Ur dark is ded without lamia

Ngl

[chrome fable]

i know

astral not enough

[shadow holly]

how does someone see fish and come to the conclusion they need to skip

[hidden forum]

[remote pier]

harmo astral

[chrome fable]

[shadow holly]

cuz u already missed Balter and hyper u said? or I don't remember

[opaque ridge]

cant be dead if i never had a dark team to begin with

[remote pier]

[hidden forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1275149874572296255/image.png?ex=66c5801d&is=66c42e9d&hm=f146a2545161d8dc02cc613265d6687fe7ff9d293530b4299d9839030683982a&

[chrome fable]

i have hyperreal, no balter and cw

[hidden forum]

Cus this guy exists

[remote pier]

They ain't wrong

[shadow holly]

and u say u score top 30% in advanced that must be fixed
it's literally impossible to score that low if you even just have hyper built

[mighty tusk]

na?

[hidden forum]

Yea

[mighty tusk]

[manic lantern]

I regret getting hyper so far, he literally dont do shi at s 5*

[shadow holly]

[mighty tusk]

better than palefire and ember

[chrome fable]

you use him in all modes?

[shadow holly]

if he's ur only built char u just split him onto all bosses in ppc

[opaque ridge]

screw lamia, the real dark dps

[mighty tusk]

hyper made 1m points for adv ppc on my alt acc

[remote pier]

[chrome fable]

only built dps... i have veritas and entropy as well as astral

[remote pier]

[hidden forum]

It’s joever

[stiff elm]

entropy?

[hidden forum]

[chrome fable]

[mighty tusk]

🧱

[stiff elm]

veritas? its actually joever

[opaque ridge]

vertias

[stiff elm]

oh wow capriccio... man.

oh wait nvm

I can't read lmao, anyways

[chrome fable]

[woven sable]

@hidden forum can u wake up 3h ago?

[chrome fable]

i also have him built

[hidden forum]

30% edb on top of 48% edb for lamia’s ult 2 at SSS+

[stiff elm]

oh wow I can consistently get 30%

yayyyyyy

[shadow holly]

yea dang if you ignore tanks and supports you don't do damage
now understandable why you're struggling

[stiff elm]

im not actually hot garbage

[hidden forum]

Whaduhell

I’ll just skip the stream then

[woven sable]

Ur fault

[hidden forum]

U used to stream later

Now ur doing it early af

[woven sable]

Ye but wz exists

[chrome fable]

i'm in middle of building my amplifiers, for tanks, haven't ice team yet same with ice dps

[stiff elm]

hey @shadow holly you mind helping me with ppc lineups

[hidden forum]

[woven sable]

Maybe i just take the demote

[hidden forum]

I’m prob demoting with u

[woven sable]

Tari esus?

[hidden forum]

Didn’t log in

[remote pier]

Oh nyo, don't stomp us mortals in Hero pls quacklao

[hidden forum]

Also yuri will have to learn how to lamia wz

Not me

[chrome fable]

?

[remote pier]

Just play WZ smh

[hidden forum]

Hell no I’m allergic to it

[remote pier]

Everything will become WZ anyways

[mighty tusk]

Did I hear wz?

[remote pier]

Nyo

[chrome fable]

?

[stiff elm]

yo you guys mind helping me build 3 teams for ppc

I got s+ leaped palefire now to be used

but idk which team to bring with him for ppc, do I use phys for hamlet or like lightning

[carmine reef]

such a roll you're on today

[stiff elm]

yes I am 😭

[chrome fable]

if epitaph comes as dps, what does hyperreal use now for mem?

[carmine reef]

record breaking performance in gph today mint

[carmine reef]

if ss3 hyper then he can swap to shakes

[visual shore]

Yall i have a question wouldn’t it be smarter to wait wor the ice attacker and fire tank to use selector

[carmine reef]

if not then seethe and cope

[remote pier]

Same mem unless ss3

[stiff elm]

I have liquid brain after TN-2 clear

so for today im gonna be hella stupid

[chrome fable]

is hyperreal really that bad?

[shadow holly]

welp u gotta test urself with off element if either phys or lightning is better
cuz at the time I did ur PPC u still had base S rose

fish Hamlet obv
and probably will double time on higher Luna diffs
idk about machi but she'll most likely clear it faster than ur ice too

so it would be like
Luna: P/L/L/D/D
machi: P/P/L/L/D
ham: P/P/L/D/D
or something
idk

[carmine reef]

ye kinda

[visual shore]

Like two patches after their release

[chrome fable]

worse than balter and cw?

[shadow holly]

much worse xdd

[chrome fable]

[stiff elm]

so.. wait till lamia drops before doing ppc

[shadow holly]

yeah
cuz u have scire ready and you can SS Lamia instantly too
unless ur Rozen is not built at all?
should have a functional dark right away

[stiff elm]

nah rozen has bare minimum

[raw swift]

depends on your investment

you can just share your huaxu profile

[stiff elm]

I shared it a bunch of times before but it always makes people cringe https://huaxu.app/players/na/14950776/characters

[shadow holly]

jambu boutta screenshot ur stuff to put in his collection

[chrome fable]

mine is way worse

[chrome fable]

what. why?

[shadow holly]

because jambu is the collector

[raw swift]

can you ss lamia before end of this week?

[stiff elm]

please do, when I finally fix my account (within like 1 year I can do a comparison)

[stiff elm]

I can SS lamia by the time she drops

[raw swift]

ok

[chrome fable]

why

why collect in first place?

[stiff elm]

I got 6 cottie, 2 of them maxed out just for her, but, one issue

I can only do 5*

[carmine reef]

for lamia, not the biggest issue

not compared to the others coming up

[raw swift]

does huaxu show harmo?

can't recall

[shadow holly]

it does

[stiff elm]

I dont think it does but my only harmo rn is alisa

[carmine reef]

it does show harmo

[raw swift]

ya it shows

[stiff elm]

I can harmo another sig but the only other sigs worth harmo'ing I have are managarm and hestia

and I dont even have empy

[carmine reef]

just hold the stuff

for a more important sig of which there are many more coming up

[stiff elm]

OH THATS WHAT I FORGOT, TO GRAB MEMORIES FOR EMPY

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF at least I have 6 cottie for lamia

btw what build does empy use after wata?

[shadow holly]

dv

[stiff elm]

don't got hyperreal still

[shadow holly]

if harmo 4dv 2guin 2eins

[stiff elm]

do I use main set or dps

[stiff elm]

still don't got hyperreal

[shadow holly]

oh right no hyper ye u use eliz

[stiff elm]

eliz cottie?

[shadow holly]

prob still Eliz cottie

[raw swift]

getting lamia weapon? no?

[stiff elm]

no

I have empy sig already tho

[raw swift]

cw garnet 21 222 501 000
balter ros echo 221 550 001
plume glory ayla 111 055 000
lamia scire rozen 213 555 000

fire team does not exist

lol

[remote pier]

[raw swift]

boss

luna machi hamlet

[remote pier]

Not even Ros r1 smh

[stiff elm]

im sorry bro

[raw swift]

this is tough

[chrome fable]

once hanying comes out, does balter still in team?

[somber panther]

Harmo priority after Alisa, CW, Lamia?

[raw swift]

rosetta's out, unless pain cage 1 shot

[chrome fable]

also, why does fire team not exist?

[shadow holly]

no hyper no Empy for now

[warm root]

aint hanying a tank

[chrome fable]

they play hanying as dps?

kinda like how they play epitaph as dps

[shadow holly]

yeah she becomes the main DPS but ofc Balter is still on the team lmao u need sub DPS

hyper is in the team for WZ with wata too

[chrome fable]

in ppc?

[shadow holly]

in PPC if you can solo then u use smth else

[chrome fable]

4pc dv on empy after epitaph?

[shadow holly]

can be SSS scire for EDR shred, or some other tank with Cath dv, or another support/amp it just depends
or if Hanying goes 4patton 2darwin 2sig then rose is needed still to cap out def shred with sig+cath

[shadow holly]

if you have hyper yes

[chrome fable]

no rosetta

been coping with 3s b nanami

[shadow holly]

who did you pick from the selector huh

if not rosetta

[chrome fable]

entropy, because balter banner is gone when i got the selector

i need physical dps

[shadow holly]

Rosetta does more damage than entropiss bro

[chrome fable]

[shadow holly]

holy wasted selector

[chrome fable]

oh right, i also forgot to say that i collect the husbandos in the game

[shadow holly]

[raw swift]

was thinking of something like this, i don't think palefire alone can outdamage others without fire tank

[hoary dagger]

[raw swift]

unless you can max empy out day 1

before this week i mean

[stiff elm]

I kinda expected a similar answer

[stiff elm]

probably not

[raw swift]

if you have empy weapon, but no orb reso

you can let her hold eins

[stiff elm]

maybe around the end of this week but at best I can only build lamia first

[chrome fable]

how did mint manage to upgrade his units fast?

[raw swift]

1st rotation just do double core, switch palefire, then end with empy ult

[stiff elm]

serum

double core?

[chrome fable]

you spent serum before event?

[stiff elm]

wait with empy?

[raw swift]

ya

[chrome fable]

lamia patch is right there... you could easily unlock autoclear with serum saved

[raw swift]

empy cottie with orb reso, you can ult in 1 rotation

[stiff elm]

what are you talking about

[raw swift]

but if you let her hold eins

then you have to do it that way

since you possible can't kill in 1 rotation anyways

[stiff elm]

hm I only got 1 usb plug and 1 wanshit sig to use

so if I r1 empy then I probably can't r1 qu or oblivion

[shadow holly]

tbf I don't think hes gonna have SS emp to do double core

[raw swift]

lol rip

[stiff elm]

and im def gonna r1 epitaph

[raw swift]

emp at base S has no fire damage buff

[stiff elm]

cause that extra ult rotation seems pretty important

[raw swift]

[shadow holly]

tbf r1 has no relation to the extra rot
he can do double rot without DLT without any issues
r1 is mainly for the shred reso

[chrome fable]

double core empy means building up her orbs right?
using her as dps before hyperreal, her core takes up time for me

[shadow holly]

double core is with her SS
you do chaos core - dodge self damage for matrix, another core from SS passive

[stiff elm]

srsly? okay cool skip

[shadow holly]

[stiff elm]

now who needs the reso the most

[shadow holly]

qu and luna

[stiff elm]

of those two

who needs it more, who wants the dlt who really craves it

[shadow holly]

prob qu

[raw swift]

qu

orb muncher

[shadow holly]

cuz ur stuck with qu solo with no one to swap off to

[stiff elm]

num num, wait isn't epitaph a orb muncher too

[shadow holly]

while with Luna you can at least cope with Epitaph swap

[chrome fable]

qu solo?

[shadow holly]

yeah but Epitaph sig gives 6 orbs in total for two rots lmao

[stiff elm]

I see so its kinda just orb mald if its not enough?

[shadow holly]

plus his orb efficiency is very high with manual matrix + free special orb on matrix entry

[stiff elm]

should I use this for event or dump it all into co-op

[shadow holly]

no orb mald he only has reds in ult form
perfect char

[stiff elm]

cause I dont have enough for lamia 5*

[chrome fable]

bro really used up all his serums...

use those up fast so your serum could regen

[raw swift]

you sure you have enough to build lamia?

[stiff elm]

uhhhuhhhhhh

[chrome fable]

get cottie mems in event stage

lamia build need cottie

2 cottie, 4 cottie for reso