📨・meta-help

[livid lark]

but operation uniframes is just dead in general

[fading edge]

Also which patch gonna remove the debuff of Uniframes

[livid lark]

hanying iirc

[fading edge]

S hanying?

[livid lark]

but it wont make them better than what is available then

[cunning tree]

as in you can't use them at all in norman?

[livid lark]

yea i think so

[fading edge]

Can still use in Babel?

[livid lark]

or wanshi patch one of those

not sure if babel removed it as well

[fading edge]

Sure

[livid lark]

it got phased out over time that much i know

[fading edge]

I mean I can see in the vods of cradle parade Babel so it still there for few patch ig

[zinc jungle]

, 74 pulls for Astraea

[fading edge]

Aight thanks for the help @livid lark

[zinc jungle]

at least I can R2 it with fodder

[frozen creek]

K whel

[zinc jungle]

Not whel, not even 5 digit spend on PGR!

Dolphin at best!

[raw swift]

I'm lvl 82 but for some reason I can't lvl up my team past 80

Is there something wrong?

[livid lark]

thats max level

you cant go any higher than that

[raw swift]

Wait what

[livid lark]

yea lmao

[zinc jungle]

character level is 80 max

[livid lark]

your commandant level goes to 120

but your units stay at 80 regardless

[raw swift]

I thought it would go up to 120 as well

[livid lark]

nope

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-multiverse-cat-cat-eating-cat-eating-kibble-gif-11742453605070230556

[raw swift]

Man

[livid lark]

it's fine tho

units if built right do a lot of damage at level 80

commandant level sorta becomes irrelevant past 80

[carmine reef]

Nah

Still need lv90 for sequence pact

[cunning tree]

There's something it won't let me do until lvl90. I forgot what

[livid lark]

ohh ok nvm lmao

[carmine reef]

[cunning tree]

maybe border pact stuff

[livid lark]

i didnt know there was content unlocked past 80

was already at 95+ by then

[carmine reef]

And pioneer norman is some weird lvl like 83 or 85

[livid lark]

ohh

[raw swift]

Oh ok

Man Im out of black card missions

[livid lark]

just wait til next week and do it all over again

[raw swift]

I really want more black cards so that I might get the fish lady

[livid lark]

what's your count at the moment

you only need 15k

[raw swift]

Guess I need 12k more

[livid lark]

have you pulled on anything with those black cards?

[raw swift]

I once offrated empy on fate arrival

[livid lark]

oh womp womp

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/橙汁-pour-juice-cute-gif-15122290

[livid lark]

well she good but like that banner is

[frozen creek]

[zinc jungle]

do story

[livid lark]

dont pull from there again

[zinc jungle]

unless you've cleared story, in which case

[raw swift]

But then when anniversary came I wasted all my black cards on anniv banner to try and get handsom hunk hyperreal

[livid lark]

yea do story
do roguelikes (cursed waves/rectativo di fantasia)

[zenith thorn]

i doubt he already cleared out sotries

[raw swift]

Ran out and didn't get him

[zenith thorn]

ggs

[livid lark]

bruh you literally burnt your bc by pulling on there

need to wait til next july

[raw swift]

I wanted hyperreal

I wanted handsome twink

[livid lark]

yea but if you didnt have 15k at the time you should have waited

[fading edge]

How many weeks I can expect it to take for me hypetune one singular character?

Is using dorm + seige? Not counting events

Around 3 weeks?

[raw swift]

Yeah my bad

[livid lark]

im thinking yea or maybe a month

[raw swift]

I think I wasted 14k on that banner

[fading edge]

Ye since not counting events + few from norman auto clear ye fair

[zenith thorn]

speaking of which
it's been 1 year of no scire

[fading edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1250714663495143435.png?v=1

[zenith thorn]

scire skippers in shambles

[raw swift]

Welp time to do dailies on a different game

[livid lark]

they'll just need to learn from this and not skip anyone else

[zinc jungle]

wdym, she was in some arrival?

[livid lark]

it's worse if they skip wata

[zenith thorn]

for me

i skipped scire

[raw swift]

Damn It it's updating

[zinc jungle]

did you have luna to carry dark tho?

[fading edge]

What happened to scire?

Like more context pls

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1271516997515214912.gif?v=1

[raw swift]

Cursed waves right? I'll go give it a try once the daily reset comes

[zenith thorn]

high priority unit for ion team
cn stuff

[fading edge]

the team with lucia?

[livid lark]

and rectativo di fantasia yes

[livid lark]

yup

[zenith thorn]

other team for lucia yes

[raw swift]

I don't know what that is but ok

[fading edge]

Is that ion thingy super imp?

[livid lark]

because now on cn there's technically double elements now

[zenith thorn]

basically another element

[livid lark]

considering that it's a new "element" i would say yes

[zinc jungle]

s capri is 💀 tho

[shadow holly]

yea cause it's like a whole another element and there is a wz zone for it

affixes are basically just more elements
kinda

[carmine reef]

Guys i ate out tonight I'm gonna post pics

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

zexlao didnt cook today

[zinc jungle]

capri you should backpull from anniversary and then use the 50 shards from rdf towards sss

[carmine reef]

I actually did also cook today

[zinc jungle]

but that's not f2p stuff

[livid lark]

should move to #🚀・off-topic-lobby if you want to talk about non-pgr games
not that we're forcing you off but a mod may come in here soon

[raw swift]

Oh okay my bad

Sorry

[cunning tree]

Too late, already banned

https://tenor.com/view/already-dead-gif-20369700

[shadow holly]

rest in pieces

[raw swift]

I guess I'll leave then

Goodbye

[shadow holly]

[quartz dove]

i blame trs

[fringe grove]

what if im f2p

[vague nebula]

[livid lark]

what if you fixed the bot

[cunning tree]

Do they increase Ult PPC boss health over time?

[pine slate]

Wdym

[cunning tree]

Like buff it as new patches are released

[vague nebula]

Interesting

[pine slate]

No

[vague nebula]

idk if they buff it or not but I certainly did struggle clearing adv hell huaxu more after Superna Awakening thing was released.

[vague nebula]

do we have data to prove this tho?

I feel like they certainly have the power to do this

[modest solar]

Placebo effect

[cunning tree]

The opposite of that

If they claimed in patch notes to have changed the boss HP, but actually didn't, but people still said it felt like they changed it -- that would be placebo effect

[frozen creek]

So skill issue

[cunning tree]

no just "wrong"

[zenith thorn]

no,only new bosses

ie next patch fushen,lilith and trailblazer with 1.5x more hp than their predesassor

[cunning tree]

ty

[paper bone]

Qu: ice light phys phys phys
Shark: ice fire fire light light
Lamia: ice light light phys phys

Is this fine, I don’t trust my dark to kill bosses with just se3 r1 daren

[zenith thorn]

bro
your scire is ss3

with r1
that's more than enough to slingshot sharkie

what other dark u have?

[paper bone]

Uhh

ss 5* capri

3S rozen

ss r0 luna

thats it

[zenith thorn]

amps reso?

empy or kaleido

[paper bone]

Both are r1 iirc

[zenith thorn]

should be enough

[paper bone]

Nvm empy is r2

[zenith thorn]

no21 rank?

[paper bone]

s+

terb is ss no sig

[zenith thorn]

phat

[paper bone]

sig doesnt have shred iirc anyways

[zenith thorn]

ok that's
daren,terb,empy tean

[paper bone]

Aight surely I can os test shark

[zenith thorn]

idk if you can one shot sharkie

hell sharkie

[dapper skiff]

Nah

No Capri reso

[paper bone]

Now that I think abt it

i dont have a bathlon

nvm I do

[zenith thorn]

chaos/hell is light only then

[paper bone]

But idk if itll kill

last time it was mega brick

oml I need to mald 3ping x3

7 seconds

[zenith thorn]

welcome to the world of daren

you may also do Daren slingshot to get -1s

[frozen creek]

Whel talk

[shadow holly]

shark slingshot is tier difficulty tho

[paper bone]

I dont think I can os elite

maybe 9 secs for ult kill

yeah 3x 3ping is like 20 ish bars

[shadow holly]

bricked dark

[paper bone]

Bro my luna used to not have sig until balter patch

got it off selector

I could sss my capri anytime I want

[shadow holly]

id say you getting her sig that late is worse ngl
but ig just a free reso after next patch

[paper bone]

just need another random copy

But honestly I dont wanna grind recit for the remaining shards

Just gonna sss wanshi and cow then sleep

maybe empy

[rare anvil]

So i finished with feral and about to finish with kaleido, what should i focus next both skulls and vouchers? Between cw lamia and stigmata (skulls) and rosseta n alisa

[shadow holly]

Empy SSS >>> cow SSS tbh

[livid lark]

save for lamia if you havent alr done so

[thick thistle]

what is the budget investment for empyrea?

[paper bone]

no rose ss?

[dapper skiff]

Malding Daren 2 weeks before lamia

[modest solar]

SS + sig

[dapper skiff]

[paper bone]

ss r0

[shadow holly]

no offense but no DLT Empy is

[rare anvil]

Y lamia tho? Isnt stigmata like super important?

[shadow holly]

I reeeeally want to say DLT + r1 minimum invest

[modest solar]

Well it's budget for a reason

[thick thistle]

DLT??

[paper bone]

I think r1 might be stretching his budget

[dapper skiff]

R0 is playable

[shadow holly]

but yeah SS sig is functional enough

[zenith thorn]

everyone is important

[livid lark]

you need lamia too

[thick thistle]

what is DLT??

[paper bone]

deadline timing

[zenith thorn]

lamia is the bigger since she's next

[livid lark]

deadline timing
weapon reso

[thick thistle]

ohhh okayy oakyyy

[zenith thorn]

desdline timing
free orbs upon swap

[shadow holly]

stigmata ss id say more important tho
she's literally awful at base s

[dapper skiff]

That's true

[paper bone]

What score is fire on elite shark

[dapper skiff]

In ss context
Balter really needs it

[rare anvil]

I c, thanks

[livid lark]

not sure if base s lamia is enough either

well the thing about balter ss0 being a requirement isnt false

[thick thistle]

can balter achieve 99 points without sig?

[paper bone]

his dark is bricked anyways

[livid lark]

yes but slow

[dapper skiff]

If the guy just got to ultimate, affording 2 ss isn't difficult

[thick thistle]

ohh okayyy okayy

[modest solar]

No

[paper bone]

also outlier true

[thick thistle]

reallyy??

[carmine reef]

without sig at ss0 balter gets 99 after second set of 4BA

[livid lark]

with sig you get 20 stacks free on ult 2

[thick thistle]

whats the reward for the outlier?

[modest solar]

The SS will unlock it to 99

[carmine reef]

aka right before the start of second swordwave

[modest solar]

Sig doesn't give you 99

[shadow holly]

and also Balter SS has the qye trigger on ult

[paper bone]

outlier lets you fight bosses that have been removed from the weekly pool, so you can get their acheivements

[carmine reef]

at the end of first swordwave you're at like 84 or smth

[dapper skiff]

Worded poorly

But he means ss 5* stigmata won't reach 99 stack before going overtime especially when you have Alisa in team

[paper bone]

and said acheivements give you skulls

[livid lark]

no no
sig gives 20 stacks for free
ss0 increases the max stacks from 40 to 99

[dapper skiff]

Ss 5* stigmata still can get 99 stacks

[rare anvil]

So lamia - stigmata - cw? And what about the vouchers? Rosetta - alisa or the opposite?

[livid lark]

what's your rose at atm?

rankwise

[dapper skiff]

For voucher neither

[shadow holly]

for skulls Id say stigmata - CW - Lamia actually

[rare anvil]

All of those i mentioned are at s

[thick thistle]

what points should I aim at if i dont have sig??

[carmine reef]

if you're ever going to spend money it's highly recommended to use bp shards for rosetta cause there are sooo many voucher units coming up soon

[dapper skiff]

If you have Alisa in team, around 80 and ult right away after swapped in so her ult is within Alisa class passive (10s duration after swapped in)

[rare anvil]

"soon" being

[dapper skiff]

If you're doing solo it doesn't matter

[livid lark]

in a few patches time

[dapper skiff]

Always get 99

[shadow holly]

like
base S Lamia is far from unplayable
much much better than fkin less than half ult damage on Balter or no manual matrix half damage slam cw

[thick thistle]

ohhh okayy okayyy

[livid lark]

i think the first leap is garnet in qu patch

[rare anvil]

Why neither

[paper bone]

13 second elite for ult kill

[thick thistle]

is alisa SS not mandatory??

[paper bone]

would fire ve faster

[shadow holly]

ult kill who

[paper bone]

no its only for her rotation eg wz so not really

[livid lark]

oh i see

[paper bone]

daren on shark

[carmine reef]

already you have kaleido, capri, and alisa in voucher
then in a few patches you will have garnet, empyrea, scire
then in several more patches there will be s wanshi, stigmata, and cw

[dapper skiff]

You only invest further on Alisa if you have her 6* weapon

Rosetta ss rank is good, but someone like kaleido going to benefit that ss better from your voucher

[shadow holly]

wtf no Cottie set?

[livid lark]

wrong ping

[carmine reef]

FUG

[paper bone]

Nope

[shadow holly]

fire will be faster

[dapper skiff]

Skill issue

[paper bone]

i only have conde and bath

[carmine reef]

@rare anvil

[thick thistle]

i have her weap and harmo

[thick thistle]

ohhh okieee okieee so kaleido ss first right?

[dapper skiff]

If you do get Alisa ss first

She needs it

[rare anvil]

Interestint

[ripe shadow]

Anyone want me as a student? . ;-;

[carmine reef]

kaleido ss is good prio

[thick thistle]

okieeee

[carmine reef]

what region

[dapper skiff]

Alisa with sig > kaleido

[rare anvil]

What about rosetta tho

[thick thistle]

okay master kurai

[ripe shadow]

Asia.

[carmine reef]

refer to my earlier message

[dapper skiff]

Can wait

[thick thistle]

thank youuuu

[carmine reef]

rip i'm na

[ripe shadow]

;-;

[thick thistle]

I should SS alisa first right before rosetta using vouchers??

[rare anvil]

Im 100% f2p and dont plan on spending

[carmine reef]

then you should just cope on rosetta

[rare anvil]

Till when

[carmine reef]

keep her s and suffer and cope

[modest solar]

Kek

[carmine reef]

cause there are so many other important units coming up and rosetta will be replaced in half a year

[livid lark]

f2p no rights 😔

[modest solar]

No spender no rights

[rare anvil]

I dont play to compete anyways

[thick thistle]

forrr exampleeee whooo???

[livid lark]

id say saving up for someone like daren is more worth the vouchers at this point in time

[livid lark]

garnet
empyrea
scire

[carmine reef]

brother i put them all up in chat

[livid lark]

all these 3 are getting leaps

[rare anvil]

Well, compete with SPENDING

[carmine reef]

.

[livid lark]

already you have kaleido, capri, and alisa in voucher
then in a few patches you will have garnet, empyrea, scire
then in several more patches there will be s wanshi, stigmata, and cw

[carmine reef]

THIS GUY

[stiff burrow]

Garnet is about to get a leap or already did in glb?

[carmine reef]

SHAMELESS THEFT

[rare anvil]

Yeah, alr thanks for everything guys

[livid lark]

qu patch

[cunning tree]

does it count as spending if you waste your money on bad chars o_O?

[stiff burrow]

[carmine reef]

i'm fkn suing u ek

ur fkn done kiddo

[stiff burrow]

When is garnet coming to Bp voucher shop

[livid lark]

i dont live in the US buddy

[livid lark]

same patch i believe

[rare anvil]

One last thing actually, i should get cw from the lamia selector, right

[carmine reef]

who CARES

no one in the world is safe from american JUSTICE

💣

[livid lark]

tell that to brics

[carmine reef]

🛫 💣 🛬

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-hallway-scene-homelander-scene-phone-gif-26272083

EVERYTHING HAS TO BE QU PATCH

[rare anvil]

?

[stiff burrow]

FAKIN BISHES

[livid lark]

up to you

[carmine reef]

cw is an acceptable choice from lamia standard

[stiff burrow]

I would say yes but I'm not dalao

[livid lark]

depends what you need but yea it's a reasonable choice

[cunning tree]

https://tenor.com/view/quake-quake-champions-bethesda-id-id-software-gif-14033928

[livid lark]

the true lightning tank was the friends we made along the way

[stiff burrow]

I will eat your family

[worldly garnet]

yo random question but whats the games pity

[rare anvil]

I have feral (sig) alisa (sig) stigmata, kaleido, rosetta (sig) nanami pulse those are the only ones that matter

[stiff burrow]

60

[livid lark]

60 for 100% guarantee

[livid lark]

yea just get cw honestly

[worldly garnet]

no soft pity right

[livid lark]

no

[carmine reef]

LMAOOOOOO
saved

[livid lark]

but we dont need a soft pity here

[stiff burrow]

[rare anvil]

Figured for my lightning team

Alr, thanks

[crimson hill]

10 lamia in 10 pull plzkthx

[stiff burrow]

[tame dagger]

yo clash reflection too hard

why is there a tornado in the middle of the arena and the boss is invisible

is game bugged

[dapper skiff]

Clash reflection hard?
Yes

Tornado and invisible?
Kinda..

Current cycle is kinda bugged

[tame dagger]

oh i thought it was a feature

[dapper skiff]

You either skip it or brute force it with better team

[tame dagger]

probs a skip

[paper bone]

if you have around ss and r0 to r1 invest you should clear it with a bit of malding

[tame dagger]

what is r0 to r1

[paper bone]

reso

[dapper skiff]

Signature weapon resonance

[cunning tree]

SS3 Scire or SS3 Feral

[paper bone]

Ss3 allows for 2ult rots

which allows cottie + dlt

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 scire better

[paper bone]

ss3 scire makes dark not shiit

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 feral is just DPS boost

[paper bone]

You can play swap dark with ss3

[cunning tree]

Will that cut into my DPS Rozen onfield time?

[dapper skiff]

Still isn't enough to outdps cw

[tame dagger]

i have no weapon resos just harmony on baltar/echo

[thick thistle]

ohhh did he pull for dupes thats why he got to ss without spending skulls?

[paper bone]

yes

[cunning tree]

yar

[paper bone]

I didnt have either harmo when I cleared it

I did kinda random bs go brr but my invest is above f2p

[dapper skiff]

Does balter have her cub?

[tame dagger]

idk why but i feel like my damage is never in pace with the time

i hit 60-70x at 45 seconds

so im like 10-20x life bars off

[paper bone]

[dapper skiff]

You have cub?

[tame dagger]

i have all 3 cubs

[paper bone]

lightning phase needs to end asap so save balter rot for that ig

thats what I did

[dapper skiff]

Okay you can beat it then
You have enough gear for it

[tame dagger]

2s0/2s0/3s baltar/echo/rigor

[dapper skiff]

Whether you want to mald it or not

3s rigor

That's an easy pass

[tame dagger]

maybe i should go revise the rotations

[dapper skiff]

You need to learn your rotation better

[paper bone]

bro has almost my invest

you shoukd not be struggling

[tame dagger]

damn i suck then

[paper bone]

2.331 111 cub on balter only

[tame dagger]

only thing im lacking is 6 star rigor weap

[paper bone]

I had like 15 seconds left too

[tame dagger]

15??

[paper bone]

its def rotation issue

[dapper skiff]

https://youtu.be/VmaGCUpnrmg?si=VjlAu90I_9ob4oaV

[tame dagger]

tyty

[paper bone]

i had to cook some random ahh rots

[tame dagger]

i will study

[dapper skiff]

You will have more damage than what video have

Just make sure you use the proper memories and timing qte correctly

[paper bone]

Windbell glb invest

[jade rain]

Watch altera do cr

[sonic bloom]

For crimson weave memory resonance what should be top and bottom I just want to know

[pine slate]

Top basic atk, bottom +15 atk

[jade rain]

minmax Diesel, Cottie

[velvet hedge]

Min Max

Diesel goes Top

ATK : 132
HP : 1491
CRIT : 66
DEF : 223

Cottie goes Bottom

ATK : 135
HP : 1453
CRIT : 66
DEF : 223

Disclaimer: Does not take Hypertune conservation into consideration

[jade rain]

Oopsie resonance

[paper bone]

below sss its basic and atk

[dapper skiff]

6x basic attack for top slot
6x any kind of +atk resonance for bottow slot

Yeah

[paper bone]

Sss and above is basic and ult

[dapper skiff]

If you have SSS rank weave you can use signature on bottom instead of Atk

[sonic bloom]

Why the website says bottom special

[dapper skiff]

Kinda misleading

[paper bone]

some ppc runs call for ult reso when below sss but it doesnt matter

[shadow holly]

commit zaza and do ult bottom below SSS trust

[tame dagger]

i see my issue instantly

[dapper skiff]

Ignore it for now

[tame dagger]

he ult2 on baltar at 1:20

im like 5 seconds behind

[shadow holly]

show screenshot

wtf are they stupid

[pine slate]

Gray ravens has been doing a lot of stuff recently

[shadow holly]

wtf are they tripping on

[livid lark]

[shadow holly]

[sonic bloom]

I wasted so much material😭

[paper bone]

scroll down to the details section

it says sss

[shadow holly]

it's not too bad
don't reroll

[pine slate]

If u already resoed ult then don't reroll

[livid lark]

dw about it

[stiff burrow]

[pine slate]

The main thing is basic atk

Below sss ofc

[sonic bloom]

Oh ok I have that

[tame dagger]

what does "final atk of weapon" mean

[shadow holly]

yahahahaha they really put the main section resonances for SSS build LAMAOOOO

[tame dagger]

like the end of a full string?

[stiff burrow]

Opposite of initial atk

[pine slate]

Calculated based on 500 atk

[paper bone]

Final attack stat of the weapon

[tame dagger]

oh

[sonic bloom]

Ahh ok didn’t see that

[carmine reef]

but note that it's only the atk on the weapon

[unreal coyote]

Wait ask the gray raven radio because they owned this website

[carmine reef]

not of your entire character

[paper bone]

Yeah I said of the weapon or did I word it wrong

[cunning tree]

According to GR it's not actually based on weapon ATK -- it's based on a flat 500

[carmine reef]

no you said it right i'm just clarifying

[paper bone]

Gg game suggs

Eos soon

[shadow holly]

fk the gray raven radio bro they bricking newbies 😭
I saw so many mfs with Darwin Kaleido at base S

[paper bone]

LMAO

[carmine reef]

because a lot of people get baited into overevaluating that reso bc they think its multiplying on the characters' total atk

[sonic bloom]

Ok I have 2 bottom sig I hope that’s alright

[paper bone]

Imagine not valueing dlt or ml

[livid lark]

that's fine

[cunning tree]

4darwin 4patton Hanying Zitherwoe. fight me

[paper bone]

or incan

[livid lark]

doesnt need to be perfect

[unreal coyote]

That's fine

[pine slate]

Don't use memory reso picks for +15 atk reso btw

[livid lark]

OwO new CR rotation tomorrow

[unreal coyote]

Don't be like me that every reso needed to be perfect lol

[remote pier]

[sonic bloom]

Omg thank you I wasted so much I wanted to mid max her but I’m done for now

[paper bone]

Perfect reso is important

[livid lark]

yea just move on to another character

[sonic bloom]

Ik but it’s alpha i neeto put respect in her

[livid lark]

it's important when you have the capacity to do it

but if you don't have other units built then you focus on those first

[carmine reef]

in her, eh

[sonic bloom]

Ye

[livid lark]

minmax should be last priority

[sonic bloom]

Typo

[dapper skiff]

It's already an issues since like last week

[carmine reef]

no no no

[dapper skiff]

We don't know what they're smoking rn

[carmine reef]

say it with your chest, loud and proud

[dapper skiff]

But gray raven is kinda high

[sonic bloom]

😭

[paper bone]

Gr making people read the fine print💀

[pine slate]

Gray raven got influenced by fel zaza strat

[paper bone]

waduhel

[unreal coyote]

Lol okay

[paper bone]

any cn dalaos here

is sss3 wanshi a big jump from sss

[surreal nest]

for you to get enough energy for the f dodge strat on bianca, you have to be close enough for her to do her swap ping then dodge cancel, right? cause i can do it consistently on ppc bosses that spawn close but not the ones far away

[unreal coyote]

Btw I heard GR will have a new website or they're gonna revamp the current website

[paper bone]

u can be far away and still fodge

[carmine reef]

if you're missing energy doing fdodge doesn't that mean you're messing it up

like you're cancelling core on accident

[paper bone]

missing energy means you cancelled core yep

[surreal nest]

but it doesnt mess up on the ppc boss thats close

[paper bone]

you can cancel it but not bfor she does the core dash animation

[gritty sphinx]

What attacks have high hit counts voodoos stupid lighting spam lasts way too long

[paper bone]

Balter sword waves

I just spammed sw and dodge during that phase

[pine slate]

ye u need to be in range to trigger swap in atk

[paper bone]

oh he means swap in

yeah that has a proc range

[tame dagger]

yo does anyone ele get stuck in elisas hold thing when they dodge

when u hold auto attack for the stacks

[paper bone]

I don’t think ur supposed to dodge during her core

[tame dagger]

oh

[carmine reef]

use all your cipher orbs

dodging extends the duration

[paper bone]

ur supposed to ping all the orbs

[tame dagger]

i do then im stuck

[paper bone]

Wot

[tame dagger]

i dodge sometimes to avoid getting hid

mid attacks

hit*

[paper bone]

yeah thats intentional

[carmine reef]

i'm p sure you can dodge by just moving while holding attack down

you don't need to actually press dodge

[tame dagger]

i see

[dapper skiff]

Don't worry about getting hit while charging Alisa

She can tank some hits while she's charging

Dodging just gonna screw up your timing

[tame dagger]

i died with 8 seconds left at 14 bars

[remote pier]

[tame dagger]

i didnt dodge tho and its fine

thanks for the tips i should have this soon

[rapid kestrel]

On the S rank selector were gonna get on oblivion patch up to what unit is the selector?

[zenith thorn]

kaleido

[rapid kestrel]

Oh

[cunning tree]

imagine having to move to avoid damage

[swift rapids]

just started the game, what s rank should i be getting first, and who should i research for the targetted starter banner?

[dapper skiff]

None

We're at the end of the patch

Always pulls on themed event construct only

[livid lark]

have you received any selectors yet?

[dapper skiff]

Rest of the banner are scams

[zinc jungle]

I need to open a hunting supplies store...

[dapper skiff]

Or an archery class

[swift rapids]

what about basic r and d tickets

[swift rapids]

no not yet

[cerulean grotto]

I need 84 5* weapons, those are gonna help a lot, pls gib

[livid lark]

ok good

if you get any selectors, do not use them yet

[zinc jungle]

why 84

[cerulean grotto]

Getting R3 5* weps for everyone

[zinc jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[livid lark]

@swift rapids follow this #📨・meta-help message
oh wait before you do that just know that the physical choice for the beginner banner (luminance) isn't exactly the best at this point in time since she already has a replacement but yea

[cerulean grotto]

I put a new objective for myself

[fading arch]

Hello, i came from wuwa and started to play pgr around 3 days ago. I am lvl 42 or something and kinda overwhelmed. There are a lot of charakters and i dont know which i should build or on what i should focus on. Is there tierlist or something because i didnt even use my S tier selectors because i dont know what to take. Would appreciate some help 🙂

[cunning tree]

has suggestions based on investment https://grayravens.com/wiki/Team_Compositions/Global_Teams

[cerulean grotto]

Since after ultima everyone, I can't inifinitas everyone because busy doing perfect reso

[livid lark]

firstly, there's no tier list
you need a wide range of units

follow this list of guides #📨・meta-help message

[fading arch]

Thanks i check it out

[dapper skiff]

Keep your pity, hold your pulls

[swift rapids]

appreciate it

[dapper skiff]

It's better to pull standard in the next patch only

There are many rewards next patch to even bother pulling anything this week

[dapper skiff]

I probably should terminate this right now

I just need to make the standard s prio next patch first

[swift rapids]

thank u

[fading arch]

I can imagine but i have to start somehow and spreading all my recources on multiple units at the start wouldnt be smart or thats atleast what i thought

[livid lark]

yes i understand that
the thing is, you take things one step at a time

[fading arch]

A team with vera would be cool i like her design

[livid lark]

no no meta in this game isn't exactly flexible

[cerulean grotto]

Build dark team

[dapper skiff]

Take nanami pulse from 5 character selector and Rosetta rigor from 10 character selector

Both of them are worth to Invest on

[cunning tree]

You can clear all of the content in the game with 1 DPS of each element and 2 lvl1 QTE bots. Meta team comps are to compete against whales on the leaderboard

[dapper skiff]

Those 2 is strong enough to carry you in early content

[livid lark]

a lot of the meta teams have pretty much been set in stone already due to how the game works

[dapper skiff]

There's nothing to pull for this patch so save every tickets you get in the game

[dapper skiff]

And you should stop info dumping on him

Just tell which character that are good and worth upgrading

[cerulean grotto]

I mean, he can always gigamax a waifu and still be ok for meta

[dapper skiff]

Gonna get overwhelming from telling him "you need team for each element in the game"

When almost all of those said character aren't accessible yet

[cunning tree]

https://tenor.com/view/s-karenina-karenina-ember-karenina-ember-pgr-gif-24440282

[fading arch]

I got the healer version of vera twice and thought she looks nice so i upgrades her to S, but no idea if thats already to much investment because shes bad or something

[cerulean grotto]

You need sss for her

[dapper skiff]

Ranks shouldn't be any of your concern for now because it gonna cost you a lot for a single rank ups alone

[cerulean grotto]

^

[fading arch]

With ranks you mean from A to S tier for example?

[shadow holly]

yes

a lot of A rank chars have big power spikes at high ranks due to being freely available to farm shards for

[dapper skiff]

Try to get grasp on basic stuff with upgrade and leveling first

Get to know what each character role does and how important they're

[cunning tree]

My only DPS units were R1 Noctis and and R0 unawakened Vera Rozen with QTE bots, and that was good enough for top 5% adv PPC

[dapper skiff]

And don't spent recourses ruthlessly

[shadow holly]

TLDR for team building
SAME ELEMENT
TANK AND SUPPORT/AMP mandatory

das it have fun

[dapper skiff]

Resources

[cerulean grotto]

Go expc

[fading arch]

Why do they have to be same element?

[dapper skiff]

Why not

[cerulean grotto]

Cuz we got 5 different teams

[shadow holly]

so that they benefit from elemental resistance shred and buffs each other providr
tanks provide shred - debuffers
supports/amps provide buffs

[dapper skiff]

They have same element to they can support each other

[cerulean grotto]

There's not a single meta team

[cunning tree]

If they are QTE bots, only Einsteina holder needs to be same element

[cerulean grotto]

Wdym, amps/support also gives elemental buffs

[gray cosmos]

alisa became my qte bot mvp for ice because of yellow ping gapclose speed on machivalli

[shadow holly]

[cunning tree]

lvl1 QTE bots?

[shadow holly]

yes

[cerulean grotto]

Any qte bot does

[quartz dove]

[livid lark]

much better

[cunning tree]

I just slapped dv/eins/guin/etc on lvl 1 A ranks and mashed

[cerulean grotto]

[fallen flume]

should i just pick 21

[livid lark]

i think the one shots got fixed

i feel like im taking less damage than before

[cerulean grotto]

Oh really?

[livid lark]

well im not dying as quick

[cerulean grotto]

Lemme ask someone

[livid lark]

still hard but much more easier to handle

maybe it's cos i cleared it once before so i know what to do but it feels easier this time around

[shadow holly]

it's just that supports and amps of specific elements have their own buffs on qte, which quite obviously buff their own damage type.
while you can slap Guin on anyone who can heal and it will work, you'll miss out on additional buffs

[livid lark]

when i say easier i mean that i have space to breathe

doesnt mean that it's easy but it has become easier to clear

[dapper skiff]

Yes

[rose yew]

don't forget to exchange bc for serum twice daily nya

[dapper skiff]

Good pair for lamia next patch

[cerulean grotto]

I mean, I slacced and still cleared with 7s left

[dapper skiff]

Stop with misleading advice
Thx

[fallen flume]

How long does a patch remain in pgr like how many days will her banner remain

[cerulean grotto]

Bery true nya

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

Debut banner always lasts for 4 weeks

[fading arch]

These are my units atm

[livid lark]

yea you're special lol
the others who have tried this without the almighty lumi/aurora's skill have had trouble

[fallen flume]

Ok

[dapper skiff]

Patch is depends on how Kuro feeling it

[cerulean grotto]

AYO ADO HAS A HANGOUT SERVER?

[dapper skiff]

You just realized that?

[quartz dove]

[cerulean grotto]

Its official?

[quartz dove]

Nah fanmade

[cerulean grotto]

Meh

[dapper skiff]

Wanna watch me mald ppc now?

[cerulean grotto]

I'll still join for emotes

[dapper skiff]

Just done with my chores

[fallen flume]

and from these i m assuming rosetta rigor?

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

Yeah

She can be your DPS temporary until next patch

[quartz dove]

Im helping a very new souls player in other vc

[cunning tree]

at that point you're talking about upper bracket ult ppc stuff, where one can assume you're no longer using lvl1 QTE bots

Slapping dv/guin/eins on off element lvl1 support+tank is enough to unlock ult ppc. At which point you won't regret all the resources you spent.... on lvl1 QTE bots

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

Where you can get a stronger s rank character

[dapper skiff]

Okay

I'll just upload the stream

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

you will be able to get XXI from a free A rank tank selector later and you can pair her up with Vera
they will also be the supports for Lamia who comes out next patch

[cerulean grotto]

YAAY

Thx lorian

[dapper skiff]

How many days

[cerulean grotto]

30 days

[dapper skiff]

30 from now?

Or some already passed

[shadow holly]

not really tbh it's not just upper bracket stuff
but you do you

[cerulean grotto]

Nah, 27 more left iirc

[dapper skiff]

[cerulean grotto]

[cunning tree]

I do be telling lvl1 new players to not mald over matching-element lvl1 QTE bots

[cerulean grotto]

27 days of kyaru and ado appreciation

[dapper skiff]

Join more pepe, worry, blue cat server

[cerulean grotto]

But I like kyaru.....

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-capoo-gif-19585590

[cerulean grotto]

[quiet lily]

Hi chat where is my lamia

[shadow holly]

but yeah that's alright
new players just have to fill out the roles on the team and set them up with memories
tank should be maxed level even if QTE bot tho
and ranked up to S rank if they're base A
because can level up their tank class passive for bigger debuff, very significant improvement

[cerulean grotto]

[cerulean grotto]

She's bing chilling under the sea

[quiet lily]

[shadow holly]

[cunning tree]

Lamia dwells on land

[quiet lily]

Feesh took too long

[shadow holly]

fiiiiiiiiiish

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

Just time travel

I can help you with this baseball bat I found in my backyard

[quiet lily]

I havent unlocked that ability yet

[dapper skiff]

I can help you

[cerulean grotto]

For some reason, our lamia is a mermaid

[hollow imp]

I might start giving each construct their own memory sets now

[dapper skiff]

Just a gentle swing to the back of your head

[cerulean grotto]

[hollow imp]

Such a hassle reusing memo everytime

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

You'll wake up few days after

[cunning tree]

No. She is a lamia. A child eating monster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamia

[swift rapids]

so out of the 5 a rank tanks, which is the best

[quiet lily]

Might missed lamia by then

[livid lark]

cant compare

all have their own uses

[cunning tree]

21, brilliance, i forgot the others

[dapper skiff]

Except bastion

Kamui is dead

[livid lark]

oh yea except bastion

throw him out LMAO

poor kamui

[cunning tree]

build 21 for stern looks, build brilliance if you want to get crucified

[livid lark]

shafted on his a and s rank frames

[hollow imp]

on my way to demotion avenue

[quartz dove]

Bastion bad, tenebrion bad...

[quiet lily]

Dark zone

[quartz dove]

[hollow imp]

they're trying their best

[rose yew]

how many characters shards to guarantee 15k bc

[dapper skiff]

Skip

[carmine reef]

Both kamuis are so bad they're both beaten out by a little girl one rank below him

[fading arch]

Thanks that helps 🙂 What about these? Already heard i should take rigor here but why not luna laural for example? And what about the other selector?

[livid lark]

luna is being replaced next patch

[rose yew]

crimson abyss looking nice

[hollow imp]

because next patch is Dark S

[rose yew]

[dapper skiff]

What even kind of question is that

[cerulean grotto]

Because rigor is meta and luna is going to get kicked out of meta in 10 days

[cunning tree]

[dapper skiff]

I genuinely doesn't understand

[quiet lily]

No sir not this time

[rose yew]

takes one drunk person to understand other drunk person question

[cerulean grotto]

So true bestie

[livid lark]

i think it's more like 11 days actually lol

[rose yew]

[fading arch]

Rigor the only meta charakter on that selector?

[dapper skiff]

Not others because they used less than rigor

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

is lamia patch dropping on 21st?

[dapper skiff]

No

[rose yew]

anyway how many babel stages until I unlock ultimate warzone

[dapper skiff]

Rigor is just the most useful one in the selector

Compared to others

As simple as that

[quiet lily]

Yes

[fading arch]

Ok i get her then, what about the other simple selector?

[livid lark]

your misinfo skills are falling off dear

[dapper skiff]

Babel is closed, try in Monday reset

[dapper skiff]

A rank tank?
21

A rank support?
Vera rozen

5* weapon selector?
Barely matter, any 5* is good

[livid lark]

if you get a beginner selector for 5 s ranks you should pick pulse from that (not this selector with rosetta in it)

[cunning tree]

Nanami 5* weapon best

[fading arch]

Here pulse?

[livid lark]

imo yes

[dapper skiff]

Yup

[rose yew]

nei
entropy

[cunning tree]

Pulse if you're cool
Ember requires biggest brains and unconfirmed leap 2 years from now

[livid lark]

pls stop

[hollow imp]

mute miku for 69 years?

[cunning tree]

(dont pick ember, you aren't cvool enough)

[rose yew]

ember viable after her leap

[slender aurora]

you cant be trolling new guys like this 😭

[cunning tree]

[stiff burrow]

[carmine reef]

First time meeting miku?

[rose yew]

corrosion affix ember soon

[cunning tree]

edited for truth

[stiff burrow]

SSS+ ember time

[slender aurora]

who?

[carmine reef]

True

[dapper skiff]

Just send Miku to exaltair

[rose yew]

I'll drown there

[dapper skiff]

Deserved

[rose yew]

I wish to be choked

[slender aurora]

oh yeah there was that other guy who called himself mikus sucessor

is saur actually miku?

[hollow imp]

@cerulean grotto this guy? yeah

[cunning tree]

I don't misinfo

[cerulean grotto]

Yeah catch that person

[rose yew]

[slender aurora]

so wait saur is the miku in question is what im hearing

[cunning tree]

I have never been anyone else

[rose yew]

there's only one of me nya

[cerulean grotto]

You're right but you're wrong

[hollow imp]

Is it not obvious to u who is the person you are referring to xD

[rose yew]

6 hero wz = 1 sig weapon selector (up to capri)

[hollow imp]

Fk, Im on my 5th now and gonna be demoted this week.

[slender aurora]

see thats crazy i never thought the miku in question was an actual guy

[cerulean grotto]

Gib

[rose yew]

[dapper skiff]

You've been fooled

[shadow holly]

I think we should delete gameplay help

[hollow imp]

renamed it to what

[carmine reef]

Can we have #trs-help

[stiff burrow]

trslao help

[cunning tree]

#game-help
#mald-help

[cerulean grotto]

@shadow holly hello big fan

[nova forum]

Chat what team should I use on each PPC stage

[cerulean grotto]

[cunning tree]

adv or ult?

[carmine reef]

While we're at it can i get a dedicated channel to post all my food pics

[nova forum]

Ult

[cerulean grotto]

No

I don't want to drool looking at it

[shadow holly]

depending on ur phys you might need to split it off to all three bosses

[carmine reef]

Did you see what i posted today

[ashen edge]

doesn't matter if you already get 6 ults just keep it for now

[nova forum]

My phys is 2.333 112 101

[cerulean grotto]

No link me

[ashen edge]

but ye idk why they recommend 6 ults below sss

[carmine reef]

This the main thing #🚀・off-topic-lobby message but i also posted another pic a little farther up

[wind basin]

2 name is actually not bad lol

[shadow holly]

you could try this
#📨・meta-help message
depends on whether your phys can do hell shark under 10s I guess (which it probably can)

not even probably
that's quite obese phys

[ashen edge]

thats require at least r2 imo

[cerulean grotto]

Damn bro, but I only like the desserts since I'm a vegetarian

[ashen edge]

like 212

[cerulean grotto]

[nova forum]

[cerulean grotto]

Unless there's any vegetarian dish

[shadow holly]

wtf seriously
cause CW can oneshot shark at SS0 112 100 team

for 10s

[nova forum]

My ln team doesn't have any harmo

[carmine reef]

Chilaquiles can easily be made vegetarian since you can achieve a similar texture with fried tofu or an alternative like beyond/impossible

[stiff burrow]

How are you fatwhel then

[rose yew]

slingshot nya?

[nova forum]

[shadow holly]

not slingshot

[rose yew]

[cerulean grotto]

Who said I'm whel

[rose yew]

oh ss0 cw

[stiff burrow]

[shadow holly]

with slingshot that mf iframes right on slam

[cerulean grotto]

[stiff burrow]

me

[carmine reef]

Vegetarian tacos exist but they dont sound fun to me

[cerulean grotto]

Ok

[cerulean grotto]

I know that

Was just saying it

[shadow holly]

yeah then ur probably splitting ur phys off to hell shark too

[nova forum]

Wtf

[cerulean grotto]

Ngl, food looks good even though I'm a vegetarian

[nova forum]

Oh w8 I coulda just use ln on test-knight qu

[shadow holly]

but ig you can just do shark first and test things out
then Lamia
qu last cause you're forced to use phys for later diffs on her anyway so qu AP distriv is the easiest

[nova forum]

What are your shark kill time?

[river nymph]

[ashen edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPK0uhvjzQo
ye this is r2 and you can see the different compare to r3 by 2 bars after ult 1

idk about r1

[shadow holly]

7/8/8/9/10

[shadow holly]

@nova forum

[nova forum]

So 11 or 12s for me

Not to mention I don't have class build on garn

[shadow holly]

if ur cw is SS3 can just use Fred

[nova forum]

Ss0

[shadow holly]

[nova forum]

Bare minimum invest

[ashen edge]

ss0 cw

[shadow holly]

but that's 8 he just needs 10 or less

[ashen edge]

🤔 prolly ult at 64 stacks

[shadow holly]

[jade rain]

Good afternoon

Have you had lunch or dinner ghelp

[hidden forum]

🧱 🪨

[cerulean grotto]

[buoyant rock]

Heyo recently started playing, currently i have these two s ranks and got a selector, who should i pick, if anyone could lend a hand that’s be great

[cerulean grotto]

Lumi, he's cooked

[buoyant rock]

Do i just not use it then?

[shadow holly]

ngl friend this looks like a restart angle
already wasted the small selector and the beginner pity

but from the bigger selector the only choice is Rosetta, she's just that much more relevant than all others rn

[buoyant rock]

Damn

I’ve already spent a decent amount of time on this account

[buoyant rock]

Is it really that bad?

[cunning tree]

Do you like Liv Luminance?

[buoyant rock]

She’s neat yeah I suppose

[shadow holly]

Liv luminance was replaced by the debut char of this patch who's also free to grind from dorms
and plume is just
not impactful for your account at all and we have a new ice attacker coming in some time

[buoyant rock]

Right okay i getcha

[shadow holly]

but I guess
if you'd rather quit than restart then just get Rosetta from the bigger selector

[rose yew]

3s plume very good

[shadow holly]

[buoyant rock]

Well it is what it is, I can restart so it’s not the end of the world

[cunning tree]

Many months from now, when you are malding over not making top 10% ult ppc against whales --- you will not be devastated over the fact that you took Liv Luminance to lvl 80 instead of hoarding those sweet ultra precious exp mats for several weeks and then using them on Alisa Echo

[shadow holly]

10% ult PPC is not whales

whales with hands only get 1%

[glass bay]

[buoyant rock]

Alright what’s the best possible way i can go about restarting?

[cunning tree]

What's the reward bracket difference between a team with Alisa Echo and one with Liv Luminance?

[shadow holly]

f2ps with hands and who have been playing for a reasonable time can easily get 5%

[quiet lily]

bro keep whining about ult ppc but never actually tried it

[cunning tree]

What about same team but with Liv Luminance?

[buoyant rock]

Like what’s the best possible decision i can make

[shadow holly]

uh
pulse from the smaller selector I guess
save beginner pity on the standard banner for next patch because you'll be able to select who you get instead of random
that's about it?

[pine slate]

Bro I get 1% ppc while playing ss0 mid invest

F2ps can 5% if they're good

[quartz dove]

Dazlao

[cunning tree]

What if you used Luminance instead of Echo?

[quartz dove]

[buoyant rock]

Gotcha, whens the next patch?

[pine slate]

Why would I use lumi when echo exists

[shadow holly]

was it 21st

[cunning tree]

Better skins, not boring

[shadow holly]

like 10 days basically

[buoyant rock]

Gotcha

[wind basin]

And you need Lumi leap too…

[shadow holly]

and from free a rank tank and support selectors u can pick XXI and Vera Rozen so you prepare a team for Lamia (dark attacker coming out )

[pine slate]

Not boring how

[buoyant rock]

Can i reset this account or do i gotta use another one?

[pine slate]

Lumi is clunkier and buffs less

[cunning tree]

If this is true, how many brackets do you think you'd drop if you replaced Echo with Luminance?

[buoyant rock]

Gotcha

[pine slate]

Prolly 1?

[shadow holly]

you can swap servers to start anew but still bound to your Google/whatever
I don't remember if you can just delete ur acc

[pine slate]

I'm still gonna get in 5% bracket lol

[cunning tree]

So a brick useless replaced character is still top 5% ult ppc?

[quartz dove]

Are u ready to pull fish

[pine slate]

No

[shadow holly]

yes I swiped more today surely I'll be able to ss3

[wind basin]

Crit mald

[buoyant rock]

Ah okay, i’ll switch accounts

[pine slate]

U won't understand the importance of echo until ur character starts to not crit

[shadow holly]

what do I do I'm more broke on bc than on yellows
pulling weapons and resos gonna be more of a problem than chars

[shadow mica]

Imagine pulling for reso

Just lose the 80/20 instead

[buoyant rock]

As much as it sucked to hear, thanks for the help I appreciate it

[cunning tree]

According to you, it's the difference between 1% bracket and 5% bracket

[shadow holly]

yeah sorry about that

[wind basin]

At least you’re not that far away

[pine slate]

That's for my situation

Every acc has a different situation

[cunning tree]

So you aren't using the exact same team and build as everyone else?

[shadow holly]

you can get a mentor in the guide system to speed up account progress in terms of levels a lot

[buoyant rock]

Nah it’s my fault for not asking sooner

[buoyant rock]

Yeah the exp from that is crazy

[shadow holly]

oh ok u know about it already

[buoyant rock]

Got to account level 40 from that super fast

Like 5 levels per mission

[pine slate]

Different team allocations, different investment levels, different rotations

Different builds depending on what rotation I'm doing

[wind basin]

Different hands

[pine slate]

Most of my amps have like 4 different sets

[shadow holly]

ss0 feral class set dalao

[pine slate]

[cunning tree]

Well if swapping Echo for Luminance drops you from 1% to 5%, I think it's fair to say Luminance is objectively worse - I'm not sure it's fair to say she is a useless brick character that should never be used no matter how much a player likes them

[summer topaz]

iv seen plenty of f2p that end up in 5% props on them for actually doin ult ppc instead taking the easy way out and do adv

[pine slate]

There's no reason to use her in wz or ppc if u have echo

Ur just handicapping urself tbh

[zinc jungle]

if it's not meta, it's 🚮

[cunning tree]

What if you don't have echo, and Luminance is your favorite character and you like her skins?

[zinc jungle]

if you don't have echo then there's no question??

[pine slate]

If u don't care about rewards then sure, but seeing that u need ppc skulls to ss ur units it's better to just play meta

Most units baseline investment is ss sig

[pine slate]

If u don't have echo then obviously luminance, if u have her leaped

[quiet lily]

if u dont have echo just get one, shes literally free forever

[pine slate]

But

1. Echo is free
2. If ur lumi isn't leaped then sss eclipse is better

[shadow holly]

let me give u an example on kill times with Lumi vs Alisa
with Lumi my best time on redliv hell was 32s
with Alisa 25s
it's a very significant difference
at maximum invest she's cut the kill time an insane amount, it went from like 15s max I think to 9s quickest time
and that's considering 5s intro animation

[cunning tree]

My point was -- the "brick, useless char" rhetoric here is insane

[modest solar]

It's just people trolling

[pine slate]

Ye well I was never talking about ur point anyways

[cunning tree]

It absolutely is not