📨・meta-help

[visual topaz]

[stuck sphinx]

isnt luna sig -33% orb consumption or +50% effective orbs

to do 6 pings the normal way instead you can do it with 4

[cerulean grotto]

12 orbs!?

[dapper skiff]

Double that with 5* instead of sig

[woven haven]

lemme see how many orbs non sss qu eats per double ult if you do double enhanced ult
16 + 19… add variance of 2 per rotation
so about 35-39 orbs per double ult without counting for matrix effects, sig or self regenerated orbs

[cerulean grotto]

[woven haven]

and this is counting swap in btw

which is a free 3ping

[pine slate]

tf is this fire zone

[mighty tusk]

tanky?

[pine slate]

it takes an entire hyper empy mech rot to kill 1 bear

[woven haven]

luna core also triggers the effect

[livid lark]

is luna sss faster rots and dps up?

[woven haven]

no

Luna ss3 and sss are really pure dmg ranks only

[livid lark]

ohhh ok

[stuck sphinx]

so it depends on how often luna triggers her core

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

but there is shieldbreak 2x -> 2.5x

on her sss bonus

[livid lark]

fair enough

[pine slate]

its beyond tanky bro

[woven haven]

yeah so the effective cost is like half

[stuck sphinx]

oops

[dapper skiff]

What flunc

[mighty tusk]

I gave up on my fire thanks to that 1 tanky bear in wave 11

[stuck sphinx]

never shouldve doubted aetherlao

[pine slate]

my MD hell clear faster than bear clear

[woven haven]

mind u i’m using old rotation ref

[mighty tusk]

135.8 iirc

[pine slate]

150

[woven haven]

idk about new one
i heard there was one but never learned it

[dapper skiff]

Nice

[pine slate]

legend

[dapper skiff]

Now suffer

[pine slate]

[obtuse sapphire]

How long do i do this to get all those cards? And also how you play this

(idc about the shards)

[livid lark]

you'll want the shards

why wouldnt you want it?

[dapper skiff]

Daily 10 stage clear already enough for 1000 currency

[cerulean grotto]

Based

[mighty tusk]

1 dailies should be enough for that event tickets

[cerulean grotto]

Selena is trash

[livid lark]

yea but she not replaced yet

[heavy vale]

You just pick which challenge you'd want you can see the rewards on the window

The symbols

[cerulean grotto]

I'm talking about her as a character

[heavy vale]

it either gives challenge currency or buffs

[obtuse sapphire]

So i just keep playing the conflict

[heavy vale]

Yep

[livid lark]

yes

just repeat it over and over

[heavy vale]

Each stage you get to choose a character of your liking

it basically repeats until you each the ending

[visual topaz]

bear has more health than Hell Moon Eater from watching Xeno wz strim

BC skem

[obtuse sapphire]

Thankyou

[warm root]

did it for almost 2 weeks ig

[visual topaz]

it tanks Lee double ult and 4S empy 4 ult reso

EU is even worse

[dapper skiff]

Good news

I'm in legend rn

o7

[mighty tusk]

slack week fr?

[pine slate]

1.7m total, cant even hit milestone

[visual topaz]

it always seems like SEA > NA > EU bs fluc/bosses

we got sandworm

[pine slate]

bro wave 1 bear takes an entire hyper rot to kill

[dapper skiff]

Wanna watch how I do it later?

[mighty tusk]

just say when

[dapper skiff]

3 and half hours from now

Could be sooner if manager allow me to go back sooner

[mighty tusk]

8:30 huh?

[dapper skiff]

We just started last shift

So
Gonna get it done for the weekend

[waxen vine]

so any idea how many days more till lamia patch?

[woven haven]

enjoy void wz bears

[livid lark]

12

[woven haven]

void shield scale off enemy hp and resistances

[waxen vine]

and alisa / everglow event ends tomorrow right?

[glass bay]

Whel

[livid lark]

im not ingame atm so i cant see the countdown

[waxen vine]

where i can check the countdown?

[dapper skiff]

So you're saying bear is getting an upgrade this way

Bear with void shield

[livid lark]

i dont think it's in the pins

[waxen vine]

ah kay no worries 12 more days till lamia

[glass bay]

Bear has more hp than boss waves

[visual topaz]

Empyrea Wings of Dawn and Veritas Bride skins are different and aired only once

[woven haven]

correct

[dapper skiff]

@pine slate

[woven haven]

also btw did you know onslaught ppc boss shield also is % scaling

[visual topaz]

this implies that we're getting a wz qol nerf

[dapper skiff]

A surprise

[visual topaz]

[woven haven]

55 mil HP lamia boss has a 45% HP void shield

[livid lark]

[woven haven]

in onslaught

[visual topaz]

effective HP to kill +70M

[livid lark]

rip if no wata

[woven haven]

80*
BUT

[visual topaz]

don't tell me she can regen it

inb4 they make A rank XXI heal block skill a thing

[woven haven]

here’s the kicker
This void shield takes double dmg from void dmg
on top of luna’s inherent shieldbreak factor (2x if not sss, 2.5x if sss)

After breaking the shield, you get either all elemental dmg bonus or boss gains a vulnerability debuff to elemental dmg

[visual topaz]

how OR

[livid lark]

ohhhh

[visual topaz]

is that gambling too?

[woven haven]

there’s variants

[visual topaz]

ow

different shields

[woven haven]

of the weakness

[visual topaz]

different shield break effect then

[woven haven]

dark/light/phys/void stages in onslaught have 2 versions

[livid lark]

owo

[woven haven]

On top of the secondary variant that exists for lamia only

so technically 4 versions

[visual topaz]

so

who's cooked for onslaught lamia

[woven haven]

Cw

[visual topaz]

YESSSS

[livid lark]

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[livid lark]

@mighty tusk

[woven haven]

Onslaught lamia is
+100% EDB for 10s after swap so

CW double ult doesn’t get enough time to squeeze in all dmg before that buff expires

you need high rank cw

[visual topaz]

i asssume it's not like ppc fast kills strats

need to slam + ult

[woven haven]

still possible to oneshot with sss+ max i think

[visual topaz]

even at highest rank

[woven haven]

lemme check the latest score

[visual topaz]

latest score wouldn't use lightning no?

[mighty tusk]

[visual topaz]

all teams light and dark aside are monstrous

[livid lark]

cw gets shafted for onslaught lamia

[mighty tusk]

bro I knew cw has been benched in onslaught ppc

[woven haven]

bad week on lamia lately so lightning was there

[livid lark]

[mighty tusk]

now let's see how many whel cw will insist on doing that

[livid lark]

i just want to see when luna patch drops how many people are asking what tank to use

[woven haven]

@visual topaz best SSS+ Lightning score on onslaught lamia is 19s

Full sss+

so i guess that rules out people without good feral ranks

[visual topaz]

[quiet lily]

21 sss

[mighty tusk]

assuming same invest fire/ice, what is the estimated clear time respectively?

[peak halo]

And what about ss team
Its like a min?

[livid lark]

for those that skip wata it will be hillarious

[visual topaz]

just state max invest

that's the score for lightning

[woven haven]

idk what fire scores are that week

[visual topaz]

does that imply Feral switch in after CW rotation or 19s is just CW doing her rot?

[woven haven]

i think the 100% edb makes a difference so its most likely feral swap

[visual topaz]

so SSS3/SSS6/SSS+ feral gets to have a peek against lamia

[woven haven]

Then again… idk cw players tend to like bruteforce solo somehow

[zenith rock]

How does resonance work again?

[visual topaz]

mem or sig reso

[livid lark]

weapon or memory?

[zenith rock]

And i need 12 of these for ultima?

[visual topaz]

Memo

[zenith rock]

Jeez

Both idk

[livid lark]

just use 12 dupe memories

[visual topaz]

you use dupe mem to get a skill

regardless of position

[livid lark]

doesnt need to be perfect at first

[visual topaz]

skill also include stat increase

[zenith rock]

Im too broke for it

[visual topaz]

not necessarily class/orb color/ult/core increase

[zenith rock]

Im at like lv 67 on chapter 8

[livid lark]

wdym
are you not doing the event farming and burning your serum?

[zenith rock]

After a week of playing

[zenith thorn]

that's normal

[livid lark]

if you are new then yea why do you expect to get ultima

[zenith rock]

It burns too quickly

[zenith thorn]

just continue grinding for memories and you'll be fine

[livid lark]

you're new tho

[visual topaz]

time to read the event pin

[livid lark]

it's normal new player experience

1 week isnt enough to get enough memories

[zenith rock]

I already dot the first two awakenings

[livid lark]

for ultima

thats fast tho

[zenith rock]

I already completed plume rec equipment

[livid lark]

you dont need constant ultima right away

[visual topaz]

not necessarily

but ultima 7 orbs is good qol

regarless of the content

[livid lark]

not a good idea to use recommended equip

in game kinda misinfo

[zenith thorn]

isn't ploom rec set 4 chj ungame

[zenith rock]

[zenith thorn]

change that zuwen to hannah instead

[mighty tusk]

zuwen plume?

[visual topaz]

Chen Jiyuan you mean

[zenith thorn]

yah mybad

[mighty tusk]

getting to full stack ult will take longer than cw getting replaced

[zenith rock]

I spent all the 6 star memory shards

[zenith thorn]

i kept forgetting that specific mem

[zenith rock]

And i was working on completing entropy advanced rec equipment

[zenith thorn]

[quiet lily]

[mighty tusk]

entropy?

[zenith thorn]

well ignoring the bricks character

[zenith rock]

Lee

[visual topaz]

again, in game rec are pretty bad

better follow #📨・bot-info builds

[zenith thorn]

better to not use in game reccomemdation

[mighty tusk]

4 diesel 2 tifa cw fr

and once they harmo, they do 4 diesel 2 tifa 2 cottie

[zenith rock]

Ok question

[zenith thorn]

atleast now they can ult 1 upon swap

[visual topaz]

just ask don't permission to ask

[zenith thorn]

i have a question

[visual topaz]

[quiet lily]

Can i ask to ask

[stuck sphinx]

https://nohello.net/en/

[visual topaz]

i'm gonna clap you

[zenith thorn]

pls clap me thank you

[woven haven]

@ashen edge wait did the SS0 and SSS0 ppc ref guy on bili quit LMAO

[mighty tusk]

you're gonna clap everyone?

[woven haven]

[visual topaz]

WHAT

[cerulean grotto]

[zenith rock]

1. Im sticking with lucia plume as my main for now
2. For lee entropy or hyperreal
3. For liv luminance or empyrea

[woven haven]

he hasn't uploaded ppc since mid June

[zenith rock]

Which ones are better

[mighty tusk]

none

[zenith thorn]

2,3
different elem, can't be compared + newer units is always better

[visual topaz]

we're talking about 小全宗 right?

[woven haven]

yes

[mighty tusk]

hyper for fire, empyrea for fire

[visual topaz]

wait lemme check bili

[woven haven]

last vid was june

[zenith thorn]

hyperteal works on a team with empyrea for fire team

[hazy sandal]

I don’t see him in leaderboard

[zenith rock]

So it's just better if possible to get them all?

[hazy sandal]

Nowadays.

[visual topaz]

holy

ow no

[woven haven]

yeah i think he quit goodbyeeeeeeeeeee

[visual topaz]

[zenith thorn]

you are to get all new S units and you can get them

[quartz dove]

Solo alpha is peak combat

[visual topaz]

how do i PPC SSS if he doesn't play anymore

[mighty tusk]

and wata and qu?

[woven haven]

u upgrade to SSS+ like setsu and empress and copy them

[zenith rock]

Free to play

[hazy sandal]

[zenith thorn]

the peak in question

hold dodge
ult
repeat

[zenith thorn]

doesn't matter,you can still get them

[visual topaz]

SSS+ cost the same as 0 to SSS

[cerulean grotto]

That's peak combat right there

[visual topaz]

per patches

[mighty tusk]

you can still get the future units as long as you are not carelessly using BC on anything other than themed

[zenith thorn]

newbies have 15k in one time bc yk...

[visual topaz]

we get triple S back to back

[cerulean grotto]

[visual topaz]

by hanying wanshi lucia

[zenith rock]

Kk

[cerulean grotto]

30k

[mighty tusk]

have you taken into account they used that one-time BC on anniv?

[cerulean grotto]

[zenith thorn]

i doubt it

[quartz dove]

Bury the light deep within

[zenith thorn]

annis gone like 4 days ago

[visual topaz]

@hazy sandal @woven haven

caught by work

[zenith rock]

Is there like a proper build guide for all the characters?
I don't have time to make builds for each character nor do i want to

[dapper skiff]

She's burying the light (team) deep within (bottom tier)

[visual topaz]

seems like the joke he makes in his vids tho

[zenith thorn]

use https://grayravens.com

[placid lotus]

whats ideal time for test for qu with ss3 balter and sss rest

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-fuck-off-go-away-just-go-leave-me-alone-spicy-wings-gif-14523970

[zenith rock]

My plume is stuck at below 5k power it sucks

[mighty tusk]

[zenith thorn]

bp doesn't really matter tbh

[visual topaz]

overtime

[mighty tusk]

BP does not matter since later story will force you to use trial units

[hazy sandal]

Lol

[glass bay]

[hazy sandal]

Understandable

[dapper skiff]

https://youtu.be/dvcsw9Zjkcc?si=nSrOmQjYjAMBk195

[visual topaz]

it's all about overtime those past 2 months

[dapper skiff]

Idk if you should spare some balter ap for shark or lamia if you haven't done those bosses

But good luck

[hazy sandal]

Sure he would come back

[zenith thorn]

btw kurai light or phys for hell chaos chark

[visual topaz]

LMFAO

[dapper skiff]

Haven't test

Likely light

[woven haven]

man its a pain to look for sss+ ref in onslaught

[visual topaz]

not like anyone would record

[woven haven]

i don’t even know which weeks some of these are

[zenith thorn]

does bili² not have date posted data?

[hazy sandal]

You know, some of them aren’t exist in a video format. They just do it on their stream and don’t upload as vid

[visual topaz]

posted date doesn't necessarily mean within boss week tho

[zenith thorn]

huh

[dapper skiff]

I'm gonna stream wz and ppc this night later about 3h or 2.5h more if lucky

Wanna come by?

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/Goc3lWQ3mFE?si=1jQwrFYi60vH5wXa

For example, 444 305W build lamia run doesn’t even exist at bili

[woven haven]

[zenith thorn]

idk
might check if i haven't passed out already

[hazy sandal]

You have to dig in yourself. Haha

[visual topaz]

but i can't watch dalao strim

because of time diff

dalao either strim when i sleep

or when i work

[hazy sandal]

But when you try to dig in what magic they have done, its straightforward if you have enough experience

[visual topaz]

[hazy sandal]

Not that much secret.

[visual topaz]

I'm newbie in whale world

Pls be gentle with me

[hazy sandal]

And yes dslit was the thing really struggled me to crack all the processes

Because it doesn’t even existed in cn

[stuck sphinx]

#NoKFC

[rocky wedge]

🐳🐳🐳

[hazy sandal]

Whenever I enter their stream

I hear they say hangurrun (means korean)

Entered their stream or whatsoever

But can’t understand what they were talkin

[glass bay]

Secret whel tech

[rocky wedge]

Who’s tech was it again?

I remember seeing you and ack talking about long ago

[visual topaz]

Han guo ren

[hazy sandal]

[lethal sun]

Weeb

[visual topaz]

U still alive

[hazy sandal]

Crimsonofweeb

[ripe stag]

When is lamia patch again ?

[visual topaz]

Less 2 week

[ripe stag]

20th ?

[visual topaz]

21

[lethal sun]

I’m dead

[livid lark]

i thought 22nd

patch ends on 21st

[visual topaz]

Patch end is also new patch beginning

The farming stage closes 24h before patch last day

[glass bay]

Dead patch

[mighty tusk]

3rd anniv being a deadpatch?

[ripe stag]

Patch timer drops in

5

4

3

2

1

Ever heard of Ariel ?

https://tenor.com/view/ariel-gif-24453003

[visual topaz]

the little mermaid story

[ripe stag]

She wished for legs

[visual topaz]

the little mermaid story

[ripe stag]

Cuz
SHE'S A DAMN MERMAID ?!

Please watch Little Mermaid

[deft apex]

https://tenor.com/view/little-mermaid-gif-8448106

[ripe stag]

Lamia can float in air and swim in water when she has the tail

It's her core mechanic

[cerulean grotto]

@livid lark

[zenith thorn]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[glass bay]

[zenith thorn]

why do we still have voice chat yet curse words is restricted
that's so stupid

[deft apex]

Fire message, i loved the one you dm'd me too

[cerulean grotto]

Cuz this is pgro

[cerulean grotto]

[zenith thorn]

absolute dumpsrer fure 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[cerulean grotto]

Wtf you guys flirting in vc?

[deft apex]

He dm'd me 2 seconds of silence. I think he's flirting with me

[cerulean grotto]

Playing hard to get eh

[zenith thorn]

check ur dm <3

[cerulean grotto]

Just give him a big bear hug like this

[glass bay]

Gph gooning again

[mighty tusk]

[pine slate]

I'd rather get a bare hug

[mighty tusk]

bear hug?

take martin with you

[visual topaz]

time to leave this hole

[livid lark]

WTF

[pine slate]

[ripe stag]

ZAZA

ZAZA

[livid lark]

OMG HOW DID MY MIC GO OFF

alright im disabling my mic

[visual topaz]

wait he didn't know?

[livid lark]

i wasnt even looking at my phone

i thought i turned it off

[dreamy pelican]

chat

who's entering the voucher shop next patch?

[woven haven]

no one?

[dreamy pelican]

is there gonna be anyone at all?

[stuck sphinx]

i think veritas if her leap is next patch idr

[dreamy pelican]

damn

[stuck sphinx]

in any case it's not worth

[mighty tusk]

brs patch

[dreamy pelican]

daren so expensive walao

but her skin is so pretty,,, i want to pull her twice just to use her skin

[woven haven]

Voucher shop additions are the following patches

Veritas - Brick Rock Shooter
Garnet - Qucc
Empyrea - SmugBear
Scire - ChinaWomenpart5
Wanshi - Sleepyboi
Balter - Loseica

Crimson Weave - sometime later

[visual topaz]

why lucia slander

[dreamy pelican]

no balter

life is not daijoubu

[livid lark]

you get free balter in lucia patch bro

[woven haven]

i’m slandering everyone equally

[visual topaz]

you should slander more cw

[livid lark]

he alr does tho

[visual topaz]

not enough to me

[woven haven]

Anyways those are the additions to voucher shop in future

cw will be added when her leap arrives

[visual topaz]

was it qu patch trade voucher increase

[dreamy pelican]

my ass is not waiting a whole year for bootleg garen from league of legends

[woven haven]

only for paid bp but yes

[livid lark]

i waited 1 year for crimson weave

one
year

[visual topaz]

i'm a whale cub

[livid lark]

you have no reason not to wait lol

otherwise use 💳

[glass bay]

f2p no rights only wrongs

[livid lark]

f2p all wrongs

[visual topaz]

lefts

[woven haven]

ss3 hanying where

[mighty tusk]

Never

[spice parrot]

i didnt play properly for a few patches before alisa so now i only have 7975 bc and 3610 event ticket. Will i be able to get the next couple of s ranks or do i need to skip someone?

[mighty tusk]

get lamia next patch, then save the rest for wata and qu

hope you have stories left

also cursed waves

[unborn frost]

imma waste my entire f2p existence to max Luna oblivion after bricking with BRS

[quartz dove]

back in the day s +5* already enough

[spice parrot]

i just checked the the roadmap section of the wiki and saw that stigmata will be getting a leap in the pyroath patch. I though only very old character got leap upgrades, was i wrong?

[mighty tusk]

stigmata is old. wym?

stigmata was released for 2.5 years for cn

[livid lark]

on cn stigmata 2 years

[hazy sandal]

Relatively old

[livid lark]

oh 2.5 lol

[spice parrot]

ah that makes more sense

[hazy sandal]

[visual topaz]

that's glb mindset

[livid lark]

have to add 1 year from glb release

[mighty tusk]

now it's cw turn, seeing she's slow as hell

[visual topaz]

i hope CW leaps deletes her from the game

she alrdy got retirement skin

[solemn nest]

Does wata new powercreep Hyperreal?

[hazy sandal]

Noone malds lightning

[livid lark]

you don't like taking 5s to slam?

[visual topaz]

yes

[hazy sandal]

[livid lark]

they work together

[mighty tusk]

and have darkshark jump around with iframes?

[livid lark]

but yea in terms of damage wata > hyperreal

hyperreal doesnt get benched until lu drops

[visual topaz]

Hyperreal status after Lucia release

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/827109657964838963.webp?size=160&quality=lossless

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/しかのこのこのここしたんたん-shika-noko-noko-koshitantan-とらこ-虎子-you-deer-gif-14524014536672925431

[solemn nest]

Crazy cuz Emprea still the best Fire amp and she's old

[spice parrot]

Even if lucia is SS with 5* weapon?

[livid lark]

there are no other amps lol

[livid lark]

no lucia replaces hyperreal

[solemn nest]

Amp is like the middle child

[livid lark]

yea they get the nice treatment

[mighty tusk]

capriccio

[livid lark]

i think kuro will bring out new supports when new meta comes out

who's capri?

[solemn nest]

That one dark amp

[mighty tusk]

someone undercooked

should've tortured her more

[livid lark]

she doesnt appear in game for me

[mighty tusk]

diagnozed with schizo

[solemn nest]

Hope the Lilith playable will be dark amp

[livid lark]

she might be void

[mighty tusk]

Lightning attacker

[livid lark]

cos luna still needs a tank and supp of her own

[livid lark]

actual comedy if that happens

[solemn nest]

New Nanami frame

[livid lark]

nanami might be lightning

[mighty tusk]

do you honestly think alpha fans would want that?

[livid lark]

garnet due to be swapped

[solemn nest]

Let it be void damn

[livid lark]

you know kuro still dropped wata when nanamech was only a year into meta

didnt give them a chance to protest

[mighty tusk]

No I mean since alpha fans are a lot in cn

they might riot

[livid lark]

wdym they can just skip like they usually do

[solemn nest]

Y'all thoughts about yata?

[livid lark]

and suffer the consequences later

[livid lark]

meta wise irrelevant
appearance wise im not too into her

[mighty tusk]

same

quite a side character that I hardly care

[livid lark]

waiting for veronica to drop

[mighty tusk]

barely appears in story

[livid lark]

need the dragoonussy

negut also would be nice

[solemn nest]

Why didn't just kuro make her S

[mighty tusk]

YES

[livid lark]

because they need a rank scapegoats

[solemn nest]

Do you think if Yata is S would she be outdmg Cw?

[woven haven]

the way kuro has designed it
amps are not meant to have field time anymore with newer units
besides they're still yet to figure out how to powercreep an amp

[livid lark]

depends on the kit

[woven haven]

tanks got increased shred numbers and -3s Swap cd

[mighty tusk]

higher numbers is one way of doing it

[woven haven]

so amps who knows

[pine slate]

Decrease qte time

[woven haven]

doesn't solve the issue of lopsided field time anyways unless they give new amps something to do off field

[mighty tusk]

[livid lark]

they would have to make it such that yata's kit just straight up beat cw's dps

[feral pollen]

just have gen 3 amps grant 30% buff instead of 20%

[woven haven]

rn the only amps who see field time are:
Capri - LMAO scire can't hold field time that long
Feral - The carry of CW downtime cuz garn dmg is really bad

Alisa sees like 3-4s of uptime
Kaleido maybe 3s
Empy's just dead

[woven haven]

numbers up doesn't exactly fix gameplay loop rn

[livid lark]

poor empy

[zenith thorn]

do you extend lucia/uncle rot if ss0/ss3 invest

[livid lark]

fell off

[mighty tusk]

also I just remembered that she has 10% fire dmg buff at ss

[woven haven]

besides kuro has been experimenting with off field stuff lately so i wouldn't cross it out

[mighty tusk]

and 20% at sss

[pine slate]

Just make amps have lots of qte dmg and reduce qte time

[woven haven]

Wata - Bombardment
Lucia - SuperQTE + Coordinated attacks
Wanshi - Somewhat better QTE
Lamia - Coordinated attacks

etc

so obv they're probably planning something

to deal with uptime issues

[feral pollen]

have gen 3 amps grant onfield unit random 3 orbs

[solemn nest]

When we getting a new Lightning tank

[woven haven]

soon please
CW needs to go from main dps

[mighty tusk]

[woven haven]

Like no joke even leap cw won't save lightning from numbercreep rn and leap is more likely a way for them to give CW affix relevance

[solemn nest]

Garnet is to old

Let her rest

[mighty tusk]

who even decided that cw should have her core hold dodge

[feral pollen]

very well, vera gen 3 lightning attacker

[eager oasis]

sooo, lamia is coming soon
with her the blue banner
Do i save the blue banner for uncle fire/qu or do i get no21 feral

[solemn nest]

I'ma sht my pants if the new lightning tank or attacker is vera again

[woven haven]

get missing units first

[solemn nest]

I'm getting Stigmata or probably Cw

[feral pollen]

cw isn't going anywhere anytime soon that's for sure

[solemn nest]

I spent my f2p savings getting SS3 Alisa for fun

[feral pollen]

so cw haters can keep hating

[eager oasis]

how important is feral in lightning team?

still using liv rn

[woven haven]

if u have to ask
the answer is yes

also feral is needed for ionization element team later

[eager oasis]

a what

[woven haven]

lux is absolutely not comparable there

[feral pollen]

lux

lmao

[eager oasis]

what is ionization team

[woven haven]

PGR goes multi element after Luna
every new unit + new leaps have dual elements

so rn there's 5 new elements in the game

[solemn nest]

Can I make Alisa a Dps? I got her like SS3 cuz you know for fun

[woven haven]

no
and SS3 is useless

Alisa's SS3 is straight up the most useless ss3

[mighty tusk]

affix related content, tldr, ionization lucia pyroath NEEDS feral + scire

[woven haven]

of any omniframe S rank

[eager oasis]

is there a weapon pull tierlist for updated units in CN?

[mighty tusk]

all of them want it

[woven haven]

Fire Attacker Lucia + Dark Tank Scire + Lightning Amplifier Feral

[solemn nest]

Me after reading this:

[woven haven]

no we're not trolling this is real

[zenith thorn]

I can't believe aether is trolling

the world is ending

miku won

[woven haven]

https://youtu.be/9hrPyWXuEjE?si=v8sE4FpZjeFA_Ivq @eager oasis ionization team run example

[eager oasis]

that sounds crazy, reminds me of the triple element weather in honkai I3

[woven haven]

there's no substituting any of the units btw

[mighty tusk]

where's fury vid?

[solemn nest]

The way I spend all my savings on Garnet skin in Jp but not for the character

[woven haven]

scire is the key for the team to function in the first place

[quartz dove]

thats 444 tho surely if invest is 222 rotation is different

[woven haven]

and its a swap comp so Feral is needed

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

you cannot solo ion dps lucia

[eager oasis]

ferals gameplay makes me vomit qq

oh well..... ill do it for you lucia

[solemn nest]

Why tho?

[woven haven]

i think that's what we call "bias"

[shadow mica]

@woven haven Can I get your opinion on this? BRS selector. Would you get ss3 CW, OR ss6 Feral + Lamia standard for SSS, and then spend another 15kbc for another copy of Wata (Was planning on using Standard on Wata)

[mighty tusk]

unless the camera movement makes you vomit

[woven haven]

you don't even have Feral so how can you know how bad the gameplay is

without actually trying it yourself

[eager oasis]

by using her in guild battles....

[zenith thorn]

fury already have ion comp?
i thought he skipped feral with all tje yapping

[woven haven]

THAT'S BASE S

[eager oasis]

doing the tutorial aswell

[woven haven]

[stuck sphinx]

I used it for 12s chaos red liv but that was the only case

[mighty tusk]

well, like or not, ion lucia needs feral

[solemn nest]

Man idk about you

[feral pollen]

bro why does feesh eat so many orbz for her rotation

[woven haven]

how many of u actually think base S units are good

[stuck sphinx]

Double qte Strat

[zenith thorn]

base s alpha is goated

[woven haven]

and basing your entire "feel" off bloody base S

[mighty tusk]

base cw hits like a wet noodle

[eager oasis]

is she atleast just a QTE bot in CW teams?

[woven haven]

not if SS0 and above

[mighty tusk]

lmao no

[solemn nest]

Still using my Emprea as a fire Dps because I ain't got no Hyperreal

[mighty tusk]

unless its ppc

[woven haven]

you swap into feral for a reason
SHE'S AN AMPLIFIER

[stuck sphinx]

Ok seems like a good time to leave

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

how is this feral misinfo still going months later

[quartz dove]

s plume already op

s garnet

[mighty tusk]

gblul ofc
cw is op according to them

[zenith thorn]

s rigor

[quartz dove]

s ca

[solemn nest]

New ones probably when I was new I think S is far good but by playing the game a year they isn't

[feral pollen]

s veritas best

[hazy sandal]

Brs harmo 4shakes4hanna 12atk letsgo

[woven haven]

nothing good there jk
selector goes up to what again

[hazy sandal]

[shadow mica]

Alisa

(so basicaly Feral)

[quartz dove]

how all this 30k rc whel doesnt have weave sss ?

[shadow mica]

Because CW is cringe

[woven haven]

oh
simple
Alisa SSS3 frfr trust me

Uh
I don't think lightning invest is really all that important anymore by BRS patch
but then again, its not like you have anything else

So i would say SS3 CW is the more recommended path here

[solemn nest]

I'ma start a new Glb acc cuz my second acc(main) is cooked

[feral pollen]

wait i forgor about brs selector i can make my scire sss thanks to it

[quartz dove]

what do i use brs selector for.....

[shadow mica]

Ah okay. Just no idea how Ion affected Feral rank priority

[woven haven]

Hyper invest -> timed value, not worth really
Feral SSS -> ehhhhhhhhh i'd rather u save lamia standard for a future ss3 if more important

[quartz dove]

[zenith thorn]

entorpy obviously,you already sss+ all unit

[solemn nest]

Do people actually pull on fate?

[feral pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pacino-al-al-pacino-always-devils-advocate-gif-22765866

[woven haven]

SS3 is good stopping point rotation wise
SSS is just numbers up for this

[zenith thorn]

one look at #🌞・trophy-room says yes

[woven haven]

it is still amp SSS so

obv its something

[quartz dove]

i wish

[woven haven]

but i think SS3 CW is more comfy for lightning?
dunno what your balt/scire ranks are

[shadow mica]

Ye shes already ss3.
I guess ill stick to Lamia standard + 10k RC on Wata SSS

Balt SSS
Scire ss3

[woven haven]

yeah eh i don't think
you really have any better pick on BRS select than SS3 CW?

[quartz dove]

do i save my std selector for future chara

[solemn nest]

Ain't SS3 BRS good?

[shadow mica]

Yeah, it was either CW or Feral as everything else is old or BP soon

[woven haven]

yes
BUT its almost the cost of an entire S rank pity

and it doesn't help her beat hyper

you could literally get hyper from BRS banner and that's more worth than the SS3 BRS

[solemn nest]

Collabs units are probably just a collection thing rather than being useful

[woven haven]

SS3 BRS is 50 pulls
might as well go to 60 and pop pity at that point

and get whatever horrible S rank you get from there

you can't pick the rateup

so just leave BRS at A rank and don't touch banner

[zenith thorn]

pray you get feral fr

[woven haven]

that's the actual good move

[quartz dove]

[orchid owl]

aight guys I recorded me failing my CR stage 14
I was dodge cancelling orbs and spamming ults, nothing else I can do to save time
I'll be posting screens of my chars' investments
I am in desperate need of help
https://youtu.be/ffy_5XR2TYA

[livid lark]

wait you can get other s ranks from brs banner?

[woven haven]

any s rank up to echo

[livid lark]

[woven haven]

its still a regular S rank banner

with an A rank rateup

[livid lark]

ohhhh ok that i didnt know

yea gonna save for wata

[woven haven]

60 pity
any S rank
out pops an Ember
and u cri

[livid lark]

ohh so it's a hidden arrival banner

arrival with a BRS ribbon

[quartz dove]

no plunge after rosseta ulat ?

[woven haven]

its basically standard banner rules but collab tix and bc only

[zenith thorn]

immediately see 2 problem

1. during balt ult 2,you didn't do double rosetta qte
2. immediately swapped balter after upt 2

no rosetta plunge too

[orchid owl]

I asked this before and only answer I got was "use ult and swap"

[mighty tusk]

this includes slam

[livid lark]

you're supposed to slam with rose ult

[orchid owl]

anyway, I was using slam before and no diff

[livid lark]

so the railgun hold basic move goes with it

[shadow mica]

DV timing off. Didnt Alisa QTE at start, so no crit buffs for first 10 seconds. Should probably 1.5 rotation, as in ult 1 2 > ult1 > sword waves and no ult2> Rosetta ult and QTE's will be up for DV Rose ult again

[vast crystal]

Is brs 100% or 70%....

[livid lark]

a rank is 100% i believe

so one copy per 10 pulls

[vast crystal]

Don't a ranks have a chance to miss?

[livid lark]

in basic no

[vast crystal]

Maybe am tripping

[livid lark]

i dont think so

[orchid owl]

so with all that being said
you guys honestly think changing these will drop the 37 health bars left?

[zenith thorn]

1. 1.5 balter rot

• during 1st rot,ult 2 must occupied with double qte (rigor,alisa,rigor
• core again,do ba and swordwaves then swap out

2. rosetta ult + plunge, swap
3. alisa core, 3 ping -> dodge till core + ult , swap

[zenith thorn]

obv my invest is ss ss ss r1 r1 r1 and i managed to kill voodoo with 5sec remaining

[woven haven]

yeah when its not their debut patch

during their first patch its 100% rateup

[solemn nest]

Every A is 100% if only they dropped like today and after a patch chance of A will be reduced to 70%

[orchid owl]

I have no weapon resos

[dark halo]

which passive should I upgrade with CW's cub? lightning dmg increase or atk?

[zenith thorn]

even then it's possible

[mighty tusk]

I managed to clear this with 222 100 001 with no sig cubs

[vast crystal]

Oh ok that's what it was alright thnx

[livid lark]

lightning dmg

[zenith thorn]

you just have inefficient rotation

[shadow mica]

Seems like your invest is just above minimum to clear in time

[visual shore]

Goodmorning dear time zoners

[orchid owl]

bare minimum

[visual shore]

So erm… i am having problems passing the exam tc-b

[orchid owl]

and they call me whel

[livid lark]

what are you using?

describe your team

[solemn nest]

Like on noctis patch he was 100% but after noctis he's Chance of getting got to 70%

[quartz dove]

i feel that

[zenith thorn]

u r whel

[quartz dove]

[visual shore]

Pulse eclipse vil and lotus lucia

[quartz dove]

see

[orchid owl]

shut up you spent 20k rc you've been playing at least for a year or got life savings

[shadow mica]

SS is f2p invest lol

[mighty tusk]

🐳

[solemn nest]

Real

[livid lark]

no rosetta?

[zenith thorn]

ss0 is bare minimum

[quartz dove]

how u even make up this number

[zenith thorn]

even ss0 sig is bare minimum

[mighty tusk]

93k BC btw

[orchid owl]

not making it up, you admitted to it

[visual shore]

I need to pass the exams to get her from the selector

[quartz dove]

what no

[orchid owl]

anyone can look back on your chat history

[visual shore]

[quartz dove]

nah nah

[solemn nest]

Meanwhile SSS is F2p in Cn its crazy tho

[livid lark]

OH

[zenith thorn]

wtf use budget dark instead

[vast crystal]

How much even is 20k rc in dollars tho

[zenith thorn]

do you have astral,no21 and rozen

[livid lark]

no wait i think that one is set

[visual shore]

I only have astral

[zenith thorn]

half built budget dark is barely enough to clear tcb

[vast crystal]

I usually just roll em once without checking the rates on debut lol

[visual shore]

😭

[zenith thorn]

where is your rozen and no21...

[visual shore]

WHO ARE TJSOE

I AM A NEWBIE

[livid lark]

can you use any other units?

[vast crystal]

Hopefully only need one 10pull for 10 brs

[visual shore]

[zenith thorn]

rozen
red hair chick

no21
white hair loli chick that's mentally deranged

[livid lark]

if you cant swap out your team you need to stick with them

[solemn nest]

It's rarely to see a player in Cn having S5 OR Ss3

[shadow mica]

18k is $3000.

[visual shore]

I am saving for the new guarenteed standars

Wait wrong person

[vast crystal]

[zenith thorn]

he's not talking about u

[visual shore]

I just realised

[vast crystal]

[zenith thorn]

what character u have other than them

[mighty tusk]

[visual shore]

Gonna load the game hold up

[zenith thorn]

im guessing you pulled once in the standard banner?

[livid lark]

no no can you choose another character for that exam?

[zenith thorn]

wait you should have the A rank selector

[solemn nest]

How many versions do y'all play?

[livid lark]

or does it not allow you to change

[livid lark]

1 only
i tried doing glb and tw but too much work

[zenith thorn]

same

[orchid owl]

ahem

[solemn nest]

Where do you play then Cn?

[livid lark]

glooba

[visual shore]

20 pulls got astral and the sleepy guy

[quartz dove]

see i said off so its not 20k

[visual shore]

And the selector i got xxi or smth the white hair girl

[orchid owl]

"but not too far"

[quartz dove]

still not 20k

[zenith thorn]

ok that's the no21 i was yapping about

so put astral,no21 and hypnos together then

[visual shore]

So i user her?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[visual shore]

Alrer

No pulse?

[solemn nest]

Life when you get lvl 80+
Login-Do dailys-Leave- Repeat

[zenith thorn]

she's fire, doesn't really do much for dark

[livid lark]

pulse is for if you have fire dps

[visual shore]

Oh

[zenith thorn]

dark buff/shred dark
fire buff/shred fire

[visual shore]

My max level is 30 is it enough for the team

[zenith thorn]

tbh I don't remember shii for tc b
probably not enough

u got a mentor?

gotta bump that level

[livid lark]

i might give up my smurf spot if he needs it

[orchid owl]

@zenith thorn @shadow mica thank you for the help btw

[visual shore]

Yes but their russian and i don’t understand anything in the screen

(Like the guide tab it’s so confusing)

[livid lark]

clear or better dps?

[orchid owl]

haven't tried yet

[zenith thorn]

doesn't really matter,just need the exp from the missions

[visual shore]

Alr

[zenith thorn]

just remember to do double qte and 1.5 rot

that should be enough with some malding

[quartz dove]

[visual shore]

How does the team rotation work

[quartz dove]

u can do it

[livid lark]

play the unit until you ult then swap

have astral and 21 on field more than rozen

[visual shore]

Alrr

[zenith thorn]

3 character
Character A does their rot,swap out to B
Character B does their rot it,swap out to C
Character C does their rot,swap out to A

however depending on the team comp

[visual shore]

The one you recommended

[zenith thorn]

it can be a solo ( char A taking all the field time)
or dual dps
(char A and B sharing field time)

[livid lark]

rozen start -> astral -> 21 -> rozen

[zenith thorn]

he has no rozen

so hypnos

[stuck sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[modest solar]

Time to get one

[livid lark]

oh ok replace rozen with wanshi

[visual shore]

Who’s rozen

Rosetta?

[zenith thorn]

build rozen

[velvet hedge]

<:A_:1005718219635572826> <:support:1003700217020956792> <:dark:1003687698483130368> Vera • Rozen Builds

1 / 3 · Aug 10, 2024, 11:10 AM

[livid lark]

vera

crazy lady

[zenith thorn]

thay chick

[visual shore]

Shz was next on the a rank list

And i have her on banner

Do i risk it

[zenith thorn]

nah dont

just wait 12 days

[orchid owl]

just tried it and got just about the same ending
my balter rotation clogs after 1
can't activate sig immediately, no orbs no passive ready after ult

[blazing rock]

Where can I farm memories for xxi

[zenith thorn]

try to follow this rot
https://youtu.be/A5P9SfhUR-w

[visual shore]

So what’s the rotation with my current team

[livid lark]

commandant level?

[visual shore]

Do i do skill core ult and swap?

[livid lark]

yes

[short radish]

guys can ss luna s+rozen and ss kamui get good scores in wz?

[zenith thorn]

pins

[blazing rock]

40 which one would u prefer

[zenith thorn]

lmao no

[livid lark]

subpar

[zenith thorn]

in this day and age?

[mighty tusk]

depends on your wz rank

[dapper skiff]

Left

[short radish]

hero

[livid lark]

next patch will be definitely no

[mighty tusk]

lmao no

[blazing rock]

Event

[dapper skiff]

Say hi to leader

Yes

[livid lark]

luna to be replaced in 2 weeks

[mighty tusk]

you can prob get 500k in dark hero rn

[short radish]

nah i can retain

[quartz dove]

i mean depend on his bracket he can luck out and retain

SEE NAH ID RETAIN

[mighty tusk]

then you better not run into me in dark wz

[blazing rock]

For me

[livid lark]

you better pray lmao

if I see you you're going to be below

[short radish]

unless you have sss and above daren im good

[dapper skiff]

Also apply to his skill

[mighty tusk]

ss daren only

[livid lark]

lmao i only need ss0

[dapper skiff]

It's a dark mob

Dark mob and teneb

[livid lark]

and lamia just destroys dark zone

[dapper skiff]

👍

[quartz dove]

just sub out to 21 if dark mob

[short radish]

could prob sss her in 2 weeks

[quiet lily]

He can retain bcs his fire score is 2m already

[mighty tusk]

retain dark wz it is for you then

[livid lark]

you skipping wata or smth?

[short radish]

nah i have the funds

[livid lark]

oh you whel

[vast crystal]

Don't you need ss3 for balter fast rotation?

[livid lark]

yea lamia is a must

you'll fall off if you cling to luna

[mighty tusk]

then you can definitely retain hero

[dapper skiff]

Depends on context

[vast crystal]

I usually have to slow down jist to get orbs before I second ult, getting orbs on normal mode sucks hella ahh

[dapper skiff]

You still can use cottie on ss0 balter for faster kill in ppc

[quiet lily]

But wheres ur daren

[short radish]

ill try ill get above 600k watch

[dapper skiff]

For warzone it's quite awful yes

For ss0 rank, just stick to Leeuwenhoek in wz

[zenith thorn]

i gave up and saved 400k ish dark score

[quartz dove]

may i have ur uid mister

[blazing rock]

This one?

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

Yes

[mighty tusk]

in my bracket, no one has outscored me yet in dark

[dapper skiff]

I've said yes

[quiet lily]

Huaxu session

[dapper skiff]

What team

[zenith thorn]

phat whale

[dapper skiff]

Luna?

[zenith thorn]

ya

[dapper skiff]

Solo Luna?

[mighty tusk]

ss capri with 5* TOO

[dapper skiff]

[zenith thorn]

not soloing because i am too lazy to deal with her

[dapper skiff]

Ight

I'mma mald it tonight then

[zenith thorn]

it doesn't really matter whether im soloing or not if I'm getting below 600k either way

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

Whel acc fire wz may be tonight or tomorrow

[zenith thorn]

my dalao
i will watch it

[dapper skiff]

Depends on how much I want to mald

[mighty tusk]

we're watching you dalao

[livid lark]

time for me to get r3 schizo

[waxen vine]

guys what would be a good dark team?

[dapper skiff]

Seeing a yellow colour text below that 600k is fun

[livid lark]

lamia, capriccio, scire

[mighty tusk]

honestly, harmo daren at ss0 really helps with bathlon

[livid lark]

anything less than this is copium team

[waxen vine]

wait wait wait kamui tenebreon is not a good dark tank?

[quartz dove]

lamia scire capricio 22.13 111 minimum

[livid lark]

lmao no

[dapper skiff]

The worst

In fact

[mighty tusk]

about to be the worst dark tank

[livid lark]

teneb fell off big time

[dapper skiff]

Already the worse

[waxen vine]

rip i invested a lot on to him god

[livid lark]

oof

[short radish]

heh told ya

[rose yew]

teneb been around for 3 years

[dapper skiff]

Poor planning

[mighty tusk]

did you use skulls on him or something?

[waxen vine]

what does 22.13 111 minimum mean?

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[zenith thorn]

and ghelp fall once again

[livid lark]

damn he kept to his word
actual dalao

[quiet lily]

What invest and team this is? Show me ur huaxu

[quartz dove]

ss ss3 sss 1 reso each

[waxen vine]

nope did not evolve him yet but he is lvl 58 with task force rank and like his 5 star weapon maxed out

[zenith thorn]

ss ss3 sss reso 1 reso 1 reso 1
attacker,tank,amp/support order

[rose yew]

hero?

[quartz dove]

are u on na sir ?

[short radish]

just a classic ss3 invest

[mighty tusk]

well, atleast not that huge invest

[livid lark]

yea no dont give him another rank

[waxen vine]

okay thank god

[livid lark]

he's trash alr

[floral sinew]

na is brutal this rot

[mighty tusk]

which invest?

[quartz dove]

[livid lark]

you're fine but just dont use him for competitive

[waxen vine]

yeah now not gonna do that but man he been carrying me through story

[zenith thorn]

na finally no rights now

[quiet lily]

Nah bro is hiding something, hes fishy

[vast crystal]

Bruh when did this channel start using nuclear codes for ranks

[quartz dove]

WATCH HES WHEL

[livid lark]

story is fine
but when you get to the endgame its a different story

[zenith thorn]

since ages ago?

[quartz dove]

I CAN FEEL IT

[waxen vine]

um what you mean by ss ss3 sss 1 reso each for what i can understand ss as in rank?

[vast crystal]

[livid lark]

correct

[waxen vine]

after story?

[waxen vine]

i see

[quartz dove]

sss3 balter....

[livid lark]

yea
when you're doing the competitive stuff he isnt good at all

[zenith thorn]

ngl using the numbers to a newbie is

[quartz dove]

[floral sinew]

this is just tragic wave 16 has an envoy that eats luna core+ ult for 2 hp bars (hero btw)

[zenith thorn]

why exactly would u do that

[waxen vine]

kek

[spiral merlin]

Are you laughing at how low invest that is being a s+ whel

[quartz dove]

nah i dont even have that

[waxen vine]

oh so i should stop leveling him and stuff too?

[orchid owl]

welp this is not working

[zenith thorn]

bcus u have s++ instead

[short radish]

thats a low socre

[quartz dove]

my balter is standard sss0