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hollow imp
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I still use Cottie on my SS0 hmmSleeper

digital moat
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Considering balters main source of dmg being ult2

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At ss0

quartz dove
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Sk for true slash ss0 balter is already good ?

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Hanying mostly carry it ?

digital moat
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Ss3 hanying kekl

woven haven
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to put it simply
Trueslash balter is the wife in the kitchen
Trueslash Hanying is the husband out working a job
Alisa is the kid who does nothing and eats all their food

jaunty beacon
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i prefer to hang myself than playing ss0 no sig stigmata

woven haven
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But the rotation is identical if you have ss3 hanying iirc…?

spiral merlin
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7 shards away from balter sss in cn LivScream

woven haven
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Because your energy gain is from triggering slash procs in trueslash balter

hollow imp
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Are SS0 player fcked? xD

woven haven
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slash procs are generated via hanying

digital moat
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Always has been LOL

woven haven
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and ss3 hanying is roughly 33% total increase in point generation

digital moat
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When was ss0 that good

spiral merlin
jaunty beacon
digital moat
spiral merlin
quartz dove
jaunty beacon
digital moat
quartz dove
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They start doing it since uuh

barren plank
jaunty beacon
quartz dove
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Chrome ?

digital moat
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Nier

spiral merlin
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Whel⁰

hollow imp
woven haven
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what's balter ult costs again can someone remind me

grand jay
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I feel like it's really hard to score high in trueslash

spiral merlin
barren plank
digital moat
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It starting going -shit after nier

woven haven
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is it 70 both

grand jay
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Maybe it's because I'm in Legend with SS3 Hanying facepalmlmao

woven haven
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ult balter

velvet hedgeBOT
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Bianca • Stigmata
<:S_:1005718220663165050> <:attacker:1003700210821771336> <:physical:1003687697044492380> Skills (Lvl. 18)

** Signature - Blade Carved Abyss **
Bright Candle — Staff Form + 60 Energy + tap Signature Move
Releases a bright candle that damages enemies within range, triggering Lag Calculation, and enters Sword Form. Sword Form prevents orbs from being pinged and converts Afterglow obtained from Bianca’s core passive to Afterglow Enhancement. During Sword Form, basic attacks, Lampshade Dance, and Afterglow Sword Shadows will accumulate stacks of Scarred Will upon dealing DMG. Gain Super Armor during Sword Form.
Deals 300% Physical DMG to nearby enemies.
Each point of Afterglow is converted to 0.5s of Afterglow Enhancement.
__Luminous Abyss — Sword Form + 60 Energy + tap Signature Move __
Consume Energy and all stacks of Scarred Will to unleash Luminous Abyss, triggering Lag Calculation. Each stack of Scarred Will increases the Base DMG of Luminous Abyss.

Deals 600% Physical DMG.
Each stack of Scarred Will increases the base DMG of Luminous Abyss by 6%.
Scarred Will can be stacked up to 40 times.

barren plank
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No i dont believe so lemme check

woven haven
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both 60 alr lemme do some quick maths

barren plank
spiral merlin
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Red balter come home LivWow LivWow

barren plank
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Mid skin imo

jaunty beacon
grand jay
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You have to double rot with SS3 Hanying

rocky wedge
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does ss0 han need 2 resos on wep

grand jay
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I can see why people said you want to have equal investment between the two

digital moat
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Dlt + shred

quartz dove
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But if follow pattern

jaunty beacon
quartz dove
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Balter age is cutting short

digital moat
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On hanying and ayla too

quartz dove
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Vampire skin mean ur close to get replaced

rocky wedge
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cause i have one usb on TW so i can use rosetta's sig also lmao and give han 2 reso if i get her sig

quartz dove
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Correct me if im wrong there

barren plank
timber yoke
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Hanying needs dlt?

grand jay
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Yes

barren plank
timber yoke
digital moat
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Have you seen how she actually eats orbs

jaunty beacon
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nah, that's why i talked about 2y ago

timber yoke
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No

limber ingot
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Hey guys, what weapon from the free box can hyperreal lee use?

digital moat
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Like its some afternoon snacks LMFAO

timber yoke
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I havent watched hanying gameplay much

dapper skiff
limber ingot
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WHAT

dapper skiff
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Slash content still gonna need her

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Hanying alone won't cut it

barren plank
dapper skiff
grand jay
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You're gonna need to gacha or do coop

limber ingot
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Dang

jaunty beacon
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it's a selector with only very old weapon

quartz dove
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Is bianca ever really leave meta ?

limber ingot
grand jay
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5 stars

limber ingot
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Ohh nice

grand jay
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Not quite as good as sigs but yk

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You need to get lucky though

jaunty beacon
barren plank
limber ingot
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Anyways, thanks guys!

limber ingot
barren plank
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Yes
Assuming you picked Rose from the character selector EvilLiv

hollow imp
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Did Kuro already talked about how they are putting crit stats on Elemental related memo, weapo, characters?

quartz dove
dapper skiff
frozen creek
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Wtf complete whale hangout

dapper skiff
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Or already owned her

frozen creek
quartz dove
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While alpha gone for a bit

limber ingot
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Well, I don't know if rosetta vigor counts..

dapper skiff
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Yes

kindred bobcat
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Oh no

barren plank
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Yes

limber ingot
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Thats nice

dapper skiff
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Rosetta rigor is the only Rosetta in the game

digital moat
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Alpha back with affix BS while lee gets ass

normal sierra
dapper skiff
digital moat
limber ingot
jaunty beacon
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that's how bad veritrash is

hollow imp
frozen creek
barren plank
quartz dove
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Plume is adv queen

jaunty beacon
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veritas was useless from start

near dome
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13/50 for Alice 💀 3 more weeks to go

quartz dove
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Holy sht veritas was that bad

glass bay
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Veritas has cool core

jaunty beacon
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the only useful case of veritas was the double red hannah for low stage ppc

woven haven
# quartz dove Sk for true slash ss0 balter is already good ?

trueslash balt energy and Trueslash stack gain:
NO COTTIE

Entry 12 + 3x3ping and 1 Core (12 + 12 + 12 + 30)
total of 78 energy generated
-60 for ult1

So you have
18 energy leftover and need 60 to ult
Leap Core does a 5 hit move, each hit generating 3 energy (15)
Now here's the ugly part:
For each hit in the 5 hit move, it can trigger Trueslash 1 time
Each proc can generate 10 energy if you have SS unlocked

Sword shadows are disabled so no extra energy or extra SS3 energy

so
Balter on average needs to generate 3 Trueslash procs to ult minimum
this is barely possible with SS0 Hanying

No Hanying Domain: Balter only generates 2.5 procs from orbs
SS0 Hanying Domain: Balter generates 3.75 procs from orbs
SS3 Hanying domain: Balter generates 5 procs from orbs
SS3 Hanying barely gives exactly enough for balter to spend all 5 procs on leap core SOBMELT

normal sierra
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I'm sure all the Veritas haters used their Dawn in wz all the time EvilLiv

jaunty beacon
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(and hell siren because non whale vera can't manage it alone)

woven haven
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and this isn't factoring more trueslash procs = more base dmg for balter's trueslash ult dmg so

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yeah Hanying SS3 obese in Trueslash

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EvilLiv no way i killed chat with that

quartz dove
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So we have darren situation again for certain zone

woven haven
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unbalanced ranks in hanying/balt suck like ass tho

woven haven
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because both of them kinda really like to assume u have each other at same rank

jaunty beacon
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somehow, people complain about harmo when half of the characters are DLT dependents 🤡

woven haven
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so was plume wep

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and luna wep

glass bay
quartz dove
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Hanying have shred aoe right like karen too

woven haven
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only until empy they started crying wolf

glass bay
woven haven
quartz dove
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Uuh so in what sense ?

barren plank
hollow imp
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MOTH IFRAME IS AUTOMATIC WHEN HER HP IS DOWN ON A CERTAIN PERCENT?

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I cant seem to Slam ult, ULT doesnt do any dmg to her Xd

quartz dove
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They dont need dlt

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KUJI NO SADA IS THE CANON KATANA

barren plank
hollow imp
jaunty beacon
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tbf until vera it was only damage increase on the weapon

normal sierra
quartz dove
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LOOK KUJI NO SADA

near dome
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Wasn’t there a super cool black Veritas skin? Was it limited or soemthing I can’t find it

quartz dove
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YOWAI BTCH

jaunty beacon
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afterward the devs put qol and key mechanics to weapon

quartz dove
hollow imp
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Shoudl I use the stun cub? XD

barren plank
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I TUNE INTO ROOM1 AND NOT EVEN 5 SECONDS IN

jaunty beacon
deft apex
normal sierra
woven haven
# quartz dove Uuh so in what sense ?

ok so
hanying's ult domain (the greeny stuff)
automatically shreds every enemy on the map of their Phys DEF and Phys RES with permanent uptime (shred ticks every second and each tick of shred lasts 8s)
However it doesn't damage them by default, so it doesn't apply catherine or patton or tank class
Not an issue for onfield hanying because she's DPS'ing them anyways right

But off field
You need Sig Mem
After using ult 2, Sig Mem allows the domain to remain for 12s, and for those next 12s, Hanying will apply a DoT to every enemy in the field, which will then proc tank/cath/patton

barren plank
hollow imp
deft apex
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welcome regardless!

woven haven
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basically its a long way to say u need sig mem for it

quartz dove
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Compared to what we have rn

jaunty beacon
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then use it sooner to ride the bike

woven haven
barren plank
woven haven
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then wanshi...

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urgh wanshi free unit syndrome...

quartz dove
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Dont talkshit the snow ranger

jaunty beacon
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you'll be faster and have less chances to face the iframes

hollow imp
dapper skiff
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Pick your poison

digital moat
woven haven
dapper skiff
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Welcome to moth malding session in ppc

hollow imp
dapper skiff
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You either leave with disappointment or 0 sanity

digital moat
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Sig memhmmSleeper

digital moat
feral pollen
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free s rank unit = must be raised to sss or else it's like 1/3rd of a char EvilLiv

quartz dove
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So we have tifa memo situation for ice ?

woven haven
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but the area of his "off field shred" is a stationary smol circle like garn

normal sierra
woven haven
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not an enemy tracking thing like Wata or map wide like Hanying

spiral merlin
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Conclusion is wata goated

digital moat
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And so is hanying EvilLiv

feral pollen
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conclusion is get wanshi to s+ or cri

quartz dove
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Losing wata brick like 2 team

digital moat
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(She is being discriminted because she is a physical unit)

hollow imp
jaunty beacon
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hanying is phys so she loses points

timber yoke
woven haven
woven haven
feral pollen
woven haven
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its free unit syndrome

hollow imp
quartz dove
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Fire for obivious reason and ur void tank without wata

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So what tf do i do if there is fire and void boss ???

woven haven
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every rank of wanshi past SS is big

quartz dove
digital moat
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bruh

quartz dove
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Time to move to wuwa

digital moat
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Okay quitting on lmaocia is the best choice

river nymph
dapper skiff
quartz dove
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Oh wait changli s6 is broken too

woven haven
quartz dove
digital moat
woven haven
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those are ur three options

quartz dove
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I prob gonna use scire my garnet is poverty

jaunty beacon
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go to the casino, it'll be faster

quartz dove
digital moat
feral pollen
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i keep forgetting sss is 45 or 60k cards

digital moat
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60k

quartz dove
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60k

digital moat
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For 4 copies + 30 ppc shards

quartz dove
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75k if u need skull for something silly

jaunty beacon
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now add the weapon/cub and duplicates DumbDawn

quartz dove
feral pollen
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guess i'm good for lamia/wata/qu sss then EvilLiv

quartz dove
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Anti f2p

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Ok nerd

woven haven
quartz dove
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Dont need to do that

slender aurora
quartz dove
digital moat
candid wharf
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Buy like 100k more BC to fund the next patch right away

barren plank
# woven haven

He's acting as if Balter didnt have 85% of the field time beofre DumbDawn

jaunty beacon
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hanying is plain, she only uses the banjo

spiral merlin
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Sick of these whales in my f2p game

digital moat
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Sick of these whales in my f2p game

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(nice edit)

spiral merlin
frozen creek
quartz dove
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Wtf

glass bay
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Fk whels

mystic narwhal
jaunty beacon
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untruthful, it's not the paint one

spiral merlin
quartz dove
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See this mofo is whel im small fish

glass bay
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Whel accuse whel

frozen creek
glass bay
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What a life

frozen creek
quartz dove
spiral merlin
quartz dove
barren plank
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Help guys I'm trying tto slongshot but i cant do it

candid wharf
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How do I brick my account the most optimal way?

digital moat
mystic narwhal
barren plank
livid lark
digital moat
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Bricking optimally

spiral merlin
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You start by not making the account

feral pollen
dapper skiff
digital moat
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Like bricking as much as possible or bricking the least amount possible

dapper skiff
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I think the assignment is very clear

feral pollen
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also don't forget to spend every ounce of bc on fate arrival

dapper skiff
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Nah

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Uniframe better

digital moat
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call solon and tell him to delete ur account

digital moat
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And build you a brick house

candid wharf
spiral merlin
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And then you get 21 because wolves can't blow down brick houses KareninaGoodJob

dapper skiff
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Already mentioned it above

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Just need to do the practice

mystic narwhal
barren plank
jaunty beacon
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?

mystic narwhal
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the trollers are getting out of hand lol

candid wharf
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Maybe I'll just collect weapons

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Like, only weapons without any frames

dapper skiff
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10s end

hollow imp
mystic narwhal
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wth did just happen

quartz dove
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Hell ?

dapper skiff
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Nah

raw swift
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that's test

frozen creek
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Not doing slingshot is the reason I don't 1% this week

unkempt grotto
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chaos
168k

quartz dove
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That really fast tho

raw swift
feral pollen
frozen creek
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The 4 people above me are 1 second faster than me

frozen creek
jaunty beacon
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last time i slingshot, musashi was still in ex

raw swift
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flashbacks from the heian era

jaunty beacon
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at least

dapper skiff
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Prehistoric ppc

jaunty beacon
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i was the first ss one shot on chaos (because i built owl)

steady meadow
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Guys, should I pull for Hyperreal on anni banner or should I wait for Wata (next patch standard guarantee is Stigmata)? My fire team is awful either way atm lol

dapper skiff
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Wait for wata

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If you don't have at least 25k bc rn

quartz dove
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Wata top prioroty

woven haven
dapper skiff
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Pfff

quartz dove
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Thats fine where is lightning tank to carry then ?

dapper skiff
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Nugget actually become a ppc boss?

jaunty beacon
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chicken boss

steady meadow
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I have 45k but I need to pull everything in the future lol I plan on getting Wata too ofc

woven haven
dapper skiff
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Oh you're stacked

quartz dove
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Is garnet after leap help thunder much ?

woven haven
feral pollen
woven haven
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Specifically Hanying’s and Wata’s in this case

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Hyperreal invest has a ticking clock on it

steady meadow
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EU 17294765 and before anyone laughs I quite for like 2y or more lol

quartz dove
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Hyper invest is sht unless u already own him

frozen creek
woven haven
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yeah just save up for future stuff

frozen creek
woven haven
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Frankly i would not pull hyperreal anymore with current info

feral pollen
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overweight nanami DumbDawn

woven haven
steady meadow
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I'm planning on pulling all future S ranks

woven haven
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Ye but like
some of the SS3s like Wata/Hanying would be more impactful and futureproof is what we mean

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Hyperreal is better now but that value decreases real fast later

steady meadow
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Yeah but since I wasn't playing for a while, most of my teams are crap, CW is the best team I have

woven haven
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so ig it really depends on perspective if you’re willing to wait

quartz dove
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Empy outlast hyper is hillarious

steady meadow
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My fire team is fire god / empy

quartz dove
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Tank ?

dapper skiff
steady meadow
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A Ayla lmaoo

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For context I left after Rosseta and came during S Ayla

quartz dove
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Yeah just save for upcoming unit

dapper skiff
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Whether you're going to spend or not from this point with 45k you should able to afford at least lamia, wata+ sig and qu + sig

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Wata alone should be playable enough for your fire team

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With sig ofc

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If you were to pull hyper you would also need 500 skulls for his ss

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Which is not realistic

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Because lamia and others needs it too

steady meadow
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I can wait for Wata. Plan is Lamia + sig, Stigmata from standard, Wata + Sig, Qu + sig, perhaps a few CUBs if lucky with norman tix

dapper skiff
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Good enough

steady meadow
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Got Alisa weap on first roll with 0 pity, so that saved me a lot

dapper skiff
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5* hyper won't do much anyway

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And holy shiet

steady meadow
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Used up all my luck lol

dapper skiff
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Damn luccsacker

steady meadow
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What should I focus on when it comes to future units? Best SS, cubs?

feral pollen
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their sigs

digital moat
steady meadow
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Other than sigs, I'm getting those (gacha gods permitting lol)

digital moat
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Rosetta had more lifetime than lee

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And so did glory

quartz dove
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HAHAHA CHROME LAST LONGER HAHAHAJAJA

raw swift
steady meadow
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Yeah lol I quit for 2y and Rosseta was just as good like damn

quartz dove
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Where is that jumbe meme

feral pollen
raw swift
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Wouldn't go that far

digital moat
steady meadow
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Added Wata and lamia cubs to the sheet, tnx, anything else?

digital moat
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Glory is actually 3+ years

warped dune
feral pollen
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qu cub is perfectly skippable

digital moat
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Lee couldnt even reach 2 LMFAO

feral pollen
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but lamia's does like xk% extra dmg to next swapped in construct's ulti

warped dune
feral pollen
woven haven
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cub is 40%~ increase to 2nd ult

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and lamia sig mem off field dmg is okay but its not big

frozen creek
woven haven
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its enough to finish off almost dead waves but don’t expect it to deal even 10% of bear HP

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3000% dmg off field is nothing because there’s no buffs for lamia while off field

quartz dove
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Is lamia same situation like kaleido more less if ur poor cub>sig ?

woven haven
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Lucia only works as off field dps because 6600% QTE + 16000% total off field explosions
and double both of that dmg at sss

quartz dove
woven haven
feral pollen
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lamia's cub still very much worth it like wata imo

woven haven
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It is yeah but you got the effect horribly wrong and almost baited them smh WorryCommandant

raw swift
woven haven
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Also the issue is even with cub lamia isn’t going to beat wata qu luna hanying lucia

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so i don’t think its that high a benefit to account overall in comparison

quartz dove
feral pollen
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not like cubs are hard to get anyway

frozen creek
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Yep that means skip lamia for me

steady meadow
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She is going to beat my Luna and that's all that matters DumbDawn !

woven haven
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its good for lamia but the value is pretty short term

feral pollen
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if you do normald every reset

frozen creek
rose osprey
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done harmonizing CW, should i get 4pc cottie effect or other 2pc effect?

woven haven
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Void Annihilator Luna Oblivion not Dark Luna

steady meadow
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I know @woven haven just goofing cause my dark team is in shambles lol

woven haven
digital moat
finite cove
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4pc>2pc effect logically EvilLiv

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Btw 6pc effect is the secret tech unknown to all

frozen creek
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6 patton on rozen works

finite cove
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Wait unframe exist...KareninaGasp

digital moat
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8pc tempest

rose osprey
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Thank you all! Kamuiuwuthonk

digital moat
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Better than cw

woven haven
digital moat
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Balter would like another 2pc

woven haven
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she’s not running 4pc 4pc anymore

finite cove
woven haven
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not in either of her current meta sets in CN

steady meadow
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Since I'm picking Stigmata next patch, how good is her Sig?

finite cove
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There must be a reason to why ofc,I have yet to harmo balter tooDumbDawn

livid lark
steady meadow
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45k

livid lark
woven haven
steady meadow
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Not a whale guys I swear lol

livid lark
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you definitely have more than enough to get the sig but it's just the importance of pulling for the future units

frozen creek
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Bro why is 1 turret bullet doing me 8k dmg in stronghold

digital moat
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Just get balter from selector and lucia patch ez

steady meadow
livid lark
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yea fair enough

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and yes that balter sig is very good for her

woven haven
livid lark
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speeds up getting to ult 2 + crit dmg boost

woven haven
digital moat
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what if ss0 hanying

finite cove
woven haven
finite cove
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I smell gen 3 physical attacker balter seem look like granny nowadaysLuciaPlan

livid lark
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so the ult reso doesn't work for slash damage right?

steady meadow
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Then I'm getting that Sig as well.. I can see the funds melting lol

frozen creek
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Can't wait cause I skipped balter

finite cove
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Wouldn't vertical invest on oldies like balter

woven haven
livid lark
digital moat
livid lark
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ahh yup

woven haven
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leap dmg is not affected by reso

livid lark
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12 atk reso kinda cringe but fair enough lol

steady meadow
woven haven
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

digital moat
finite cove
woven haven
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it scales with proc count

digital moat
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Not quite there is it

woven haven
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so like ss3 obv has an edge

livid lark
digital moat
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How many stacks does she get for ult2

woven haven
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idk if ss0 balter can hit 10+150 stack ult2

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with ss0 hanying

steady meadow
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Even if Balter gets piwercrept I'm using old Alpha RN so...

finite cove
digital moat
woven haven
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like i genuinely don’t know if 10+150 is possible

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for full ss0

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Need to check someone who is doing trueslash ss0

quartz dove
finite cove
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Iirc in future weapon banner gacha system will have pityAlphaPeek

feral pollen
quartz dove
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Surely with wuwa massive success kuro will be more generous

digital moat
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Here 5bc for u

finite cove
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4pulls for 4th anniv pgr surprise2EvilLiv 💀

digital moat
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For 5.5 they will give out 5.5 pulls

tight tangle
quartz dove
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Oh no

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Its same pattern

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Back in the day

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S0+5* plume already op

woven haven
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oh setsu trueslash tutorial video

only recommended for ss3+ hanying to actually participate in trueslash
💀

quartz dove
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Now u need ss3 + sscub +R1

frozen creek
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Ss3 isn't hard to get just be lucky

quartz dove
finite cove
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SSS hanying(phy tank) worth to plan pulling for?

frozen creek
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Yes

digital moat
spiral merlin
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f2p friendly game btw

finite cove
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I don't really know which is better to vertical invest-baltwr or hanying

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Already ss3 balter,otw SSS alisa

digital moat
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DumbDawn why make something and lock all ss0 invest people out of it

feral pollen
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ur not locked out of it

feral pollen
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it's just inefficient at ss lulw

finite cove
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Alrighty bye2 balterEvilLiv

woven haven
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it means it might be too inefficient to use at ss0 and you might as well skip trueslash wz for the other node

digital moat
woven haven
#

assuming the other node isn’t lightning/dark

feral pollen
#

locked would mean you cannot even attempt it with subpar result

steady meadow
#

Last question before I go mald in PPC.. I have enough skulls for almost 3x SSs, anyone I should prioritize from future units + Balter, or better yet anyone I can skip lol?

finite cove
#

Same could be said like someone in HSR,Acheron and danhengil for example would be very strong at eidolon 2(2 copy)EvilLiv

quartz dove
#

Yeah ss0 sig is already pushing it from s0+5*

woven haven
#

ok yeah setsu vid outright says lmao don’t even try trueslash without ss3 hanying

digital moat
#

But the thing is ss0 invest wouldn't attempt slash zone

finite cove
#

Still pgr shouldn't do lock construct peak potential via rank

ashen edge
finite cove
digital moat
#

I just want to be able to do functioning rotations with ss0

steady meadow
#

I wish it was only 2 when I was pulling for E2 FF

digital moat
#

Meanwhile dark:

#

Cant even attempt rotation without ss3 scire

quartz dove
#

Scire are just slap in the face

frozen creek
#

Function but less dmg VeraShrug

shadow holly
#

kuro got the dark team as their experimental rats

digital moat
#

Without sss r2 capri you dont get proper buffing either

finite cove
#

Welp pgr at ss0 already functioning properly but the peak performance is vastly boosted at higher rank with some character have their rot changed altogether due to certain skill unlocked

frozen creek
livid lark
digital moat
shadow holly
finite cove
#

... it's hurt ss0 lineup haver seeing the difference ofc,the frustration is realWorryCommandant

livid lark
#

i mean it's kinda stupid to lock a whole zone out from ss0 ranks

digital moat
#

I guess lucia isnt too reliant on ranks to do her rotation

finite cove
#

AgreedWorryCommandant

livid lark
#

trueslash has ss3 requirement? bruh

digital moat
#

Ss3 turns qte into nuke insteadEvilLiv

finite cove
#

Kuro trying to be hoyo fr fr...

livid lark
#

newbies can forget about even attempting it

finite cove
#

Wadapak...

quartz dove
#

Btw wuwa unit also get massive boost from rank

livid lark
#

so much for getting lots of people into the competitive space

quartz dove
#

Go look at what their rank do

digital moat
#

You guys still play wuwa? DumbDawn

livid lark
finite cove
#

Hence I only pull for character mostly for collection instead stressing on meta.

livid lark
#

wuwa animations not hype enough to keep me invested

#

gameplay is kinda meh

finite cove
#

If I can't clear some content,it is fine...if yes that's cool ig

glass bay
#

Pgr has lb

#

That's the difference

quartz dove
#

I just there for chang li

woven haven
#

ok yeah my math was right on balter and hanying trueslash stack gain

basically ss0 hanying too scuffed rn

quartz dove
glass bay
#

No leaderboard why bother about meta

livid lark
#

im only there with hopium for some good gameplay towards the 1st year anni

glass bay
#

Clearing on time is simply skill issue

finite cove
#

IndeedEvilLiv

quartz dove
#

Yeah u can also solo content if ur chara wheled enough

livid lark
#

If you just had balter (no hanying), you can't activate trueslash dmg right?

quartz dove
digital moat
finite cove
#

Stressing on meta only result stress test on your wallet at the of the day...at any gacha games

glass bay
#

Even if they aren't u can lol

woven haven
#

@hazy sandal dalao thank u for trueslash wz video 0_dalao

finite cove
livid lark
glass bay
quartz dove
#

Wait yeah true rex beat memphis 6 with low invest chang li

livid lark
#

i usually open the game and log out the second i collect

digital moat
quartz dove
digital moat
#

Not only it feels bad it looks horrible too

glass bay
digital moat
#

Phone gaming DumbDawn

woven haven
glass bay
#

And all. Holos

livid lark
#

bruh

woven haven
#

and not to mention hanying is also doing slash dmg

glass bay
#

Lvl 90 should be free

quartz dove
#

Do u have jin hsi ?

livid lark
#

alright that's disgusting

quartz dove
#

Cus i dont have her

glass bay
#

No I used jiyan and calc

quartz dove
#

I do have yin lin and chang li tho

frozen creek
#

65 changli and yinlin but no jinhsi

woven haven
finite cove
#

There is only some end game content in pgr require you to have peak performance from your lineup.

Like content from ppc,wz and boss battle for coke bottle harmo stuff

livid lark
#

I'm just thinking about a person who can only pull ss0 (complete f2p for example)

quartz dove
#

Hanying need skin that isnt just panty + sport bra

livid lark
#

They're basically fked

finite cove
#

And usually f2p invest ss0 peak upgrade would still clear decently tbf

quartz dove
#

They already are rn

livid lark
#

Unless there's options to go for that's like one entire zone locked out for them

glass bay
woven haven
livid lark
#

Yea

finite cove
livid lark
#

No daren ss3hmmSleeper

feral pollen
woven haven
#

basically in mixed zone as ss0 you might entirely be a goner and have to bench affix wz

quartz dove
#

Were not nikke we cant do that

woven haven
#

which is kind of being locked out somewhat

digital moat
thorn creek
quartz dove
#

Ss0 player also fcked in ion zone

finite cove
#

Bro chill with your desire...💀

quartz dove
#

I just realize it

livid lark
#

Sorta dreading the future of global with this new meta now

finite cove
#

Ion zone?

digital moat
#

ss0 lucia ss0 daren ss0 21 cant do better than ss0 lighting team?

livid lark
#

Like if we go in that direction we may as well just eos because barely anyone will be in there

woven haven
livid lark
#

Not to doompost but like idk how many people we'll actually get in those affix zones

digital moat
woven haven
#

if ion is paired with void/fire/ice its joever

digital moat
quartz dove
#

Yeah affix zone isnt accessible thats the issue

woven haven
#

as of its current state

livid lark
#

content creation is basically dead for global because none of the people playing right now who don't have those affix units at ss3 will be able to relate

digital moat
#

I guess this issues could be fixed with more slash/ionization units

woven haven
#

affix zones are just worse phys/lightning zones without the proper invest i think

livid lark
glass bay
#

What is the additional reward

digital moat
#

Since they will probably be able generate affix points themselves

glass bay
#

For those zones

woven haven
glass bay
#

So just same reward now gatekept?

livid lark
#

Does mixed wz have a non-affix zone?

digital moat
#

Imagine they just make it worse by needing more affix points and more ranks to obtain sufficient amount

woven haven
#

Mixed WZ is the third zone

you get to pick between 2 random WZ types

#

higher score is the one they calc for mixed

#

this is where affix will show up

#

so it can be slash/ion
or void/fire
lightning/ice

#

whichever of the two you score higher

#

basically means if you can’t compete on at least trueslash its a worse phys wz

glass bay
finite cove
#

I hope kuro dev will implement something that support lower invest player/f2p player so they can still somehow clear out end game content by skill as and option. Not only forced you to pull for dupes to get higher rankDumbDawn

woven haven
#

and you probably want to bank on other choice being fire/void/ice

shadow holly
#

i mean you can clear stuff anyway

livid lark
shadow holly
#

not like the difficulty of the endgame content is tailored for competitive invest standards

finite cove
#

Btw despite hating on genshon,their end game still can be cleared by og unit decently and ofc HSR tooWorryCommandant

livid lark
#

gatekeep is good but affix is pushing it a little too far based on how it is rn

woven haven
#

every new unit will have affix

finite cove
#

Pgr is already hard,and having sponge level HP bosses wouldn't help

glass bay
#

See if u can still do that

woven haven
#

in time it will be "better" with more affix units

quartz dove
#

Leaderboard in genshin NO NO NO NO

glass bay
#

It's only about whether there is leaderboard or not

livid lark
#

Needs to be triggerable at ss0

woven haven
#

but ofc the fact that affix teams rely on each other is pretty uh
yeah

glass bay
#

It's nothing to do with the content

finite cove
woven haven
#

since Balter relies on Hanying to buff trueslash
and Lucia relies on Daren as a ion battery

opaque ridge
#

why are u guys talking about affixes when cn is spearheading it for u TE_2Head

finite cove
#

Tbf lower rank leaderboard rewards still decent igWorryCommandant

opaque ridge
#

by the time u guys get it in global, everything will be figured out by then

glass bay
#

Alteralao

#

Sacrificing for us since 2019

finite cove
#

Hopefully all is going to better in future...I hate seeing kuro trying to be next hoyo WorryCommandant DumbDawn

#

It's cool they trying to be successful as hoyo but please don't make us player suffer like we did in hoyo titles 💀💯

quartz dove
#

I dont play hoyo so i have zero idea about this anyone care to elaborate ?

woven haven
#

idk what they mean by this either

quartz dove
#

I thought u play hsr ?

rotund pagoda
frozen creek
#

Hi3 went severely downhill following g game release

finite cove
#

Too put it simply old day genshin is the best example of many stuff that should be improved.... especially the gacha system...like old day weapon banner in genshin is pure scam

woven haven
#

bro the gacha isn't being changed in PGR

finite cove
#

Still 4star weapon in genshin is legit usable even till end game tbf

frozen creek
#

Not scam for whales VeraShrug

woven haven
#

its better than ever now

quartz dove
#

I mean i understand the invesment issue for slash and ion content

finite cove
quartz dove
#

But becoming hoyo is bit confusing

frozen creek
#

Pgr wep banner so good

#

All pgr banner good

#

Even fate arrival

digital moat
shadow holly
woven haven
frozen creek
glass bay
#

i think what he means is

digital moat
#

i should just quit all gachas after pgr

quartz dove
#

50/50 banner is gae even in snowpeak

frozen creek
#

Fate arrival basically fate anniversary now VeraShrug

glass bay
#

hoyoworse care too much about profits vs players

finite cove
#

Welp no denying the best gacha pity system for character is pgr WorryCommandant

quartz dove
#

Is gae in wuwa too

thorn creek
glass bay
#

and he doesnt want kuro to be like that

frozen creek
finite cove
#

60/100% is unbeatable especially for abysmal luck player

frozen creek
#

Couldn't be me VeraShrug

glass bay
finite cove
quartz dove
frozen creek
#

I've never lost that badly on a banner to have to spend to make up for it

frozen creek
#

Worst luck I've got in thos game so far is having to 60 pity 2 feral and hyperreal copies b2b

quartz dove
#

Ok listen

finite cove
#

The fact is pgr character gain potential per patch is high as long as you did all the weekly and dailies+all patch event bc rewards

quartz dove
#

Stop behaving as ur spending lower than me

finite cove
#

I'm f2p wdym

quartz dove
#

Not u

finite cove
frozen creek
# glass bay absolute cap

Arknights wuwa and before genshin I'm only monthly and casual
Hi3 was bp and monthly and competitive but even if I lost on equipment banner I couldn't spend cause I'm poor

#

Then I came to pgr and am f2p

quartz dove
feral pollen
frozen creek
#

Nope

#

I'm still trying to get mine to ss using skulls

finite cove
glass bay
#

until u said this

quartz dove
#

How is it when i speak like this entire server jump on me but this guy is like nope imma cosplay f2p right here right now

unkempt grotto
#

lies
once you start swiping you cant go back

glass bay
#

i call him out daily wtf u on about

#

bro made an alt just to cosplay as f2p

frozen creek
finite cove
#

Let me tell you f2p in honkie is impossible if you want to get closer to competition content...unless you're lucky day 1 player

glass bay
frozen creek
#

No proof that I spent money on pgr

quartz dove
finite cove
feral pollen
slender aurora
slender aurora
finite cove
frozen creek
quartz dove
#

UC people = ez whel

normal sierra
frozen creek
#

Spreading misinfo about me

finite cove
#

Thank you for supporting pgr and wuwaLivWow

frozen creek
thorn creek
#

Everyone is a whel in this chat. Just a matter of whoever’s the bigger whelVeraShrug

frozen creek
shadow holly
#

did kuro gift you sss cw too?

glass bay
#

another day another whel exposed

quartz dove
#

Another uc whel

normal sierra
#

he whel sss balter and cw haver, going for s+ soon sauce

finite cove
#

Nuclear exposure EvilLiv

quartz dove
#

Hi @shadow holly waveBOYE

river nymph
finite cove
quartz dove
#

Oh god theyre spawning

jaunty beacon
# quartz dove UC people = ez whel

Is it possible to add an extra bracket in the higher ranks of Pain Cage specifically for UCs? Is there a way to track whether or not a player has spent money in the game, so they can be put in that bracket? Perhaps track whether or nota player has the special [UC] tag in their name. F2Ps are getting crushed by UCs when they reach the highest bracket.

river nymph
#

real

frozen creek
#

Bro I'm not even in legend

shadow holly
#

what if im uc and i get crushed by uc's too
do i file an internal complaint to the authorities?

normal sierra
#

that must be an old copy/pasta o.o

frozen creek
#

I can't be spending and not be in legend

jaunty beacon
#

year one pasta

river nymph
finite cove
jaunty beacon
#

before guild were made

quartz dove
finite cove
#

It is what it is as of nowWorryCommandant

jaunty beacon
#

people puts tag in their name

frozen creek
river nymph
#

im uc

frozen creek
#

You're eu na sea cn tw kr jp whel so not surprised

jaunty beacon
river nymph
frozen creek
#

Whale love whale KareninaGasp

normal sierra
#

yeah, I remember some old ones, and the [UC] nametag tells a lot EvilLiv

river nymph
#

henry joe LivWow

frozen creek
#

I wasn't even born when pgr was that old

woven haven
shadow holly
#

@timber yoke Shrizz

woven haven
#

and the ult dmg is 💀

quartz dove
#

Whats the issue if she do spinny twice ?

hazy sandal
#

I mean

hazy sandal
#

She can’t left some trueslash stacks for balter (hanying)

#

She depletes all of it what she produced

#

At ss0

woven haven
#

ye

hazy sandal
#

Only 3~4 stacks which balter made herself own could be used so

finite cove
#

Then at what rank does hanying operates optimally?

hazy sandal
#

Balter’s Ground Weaving dmg wave control competely ruins

finite cove
#

I hope ss3 would suffice...

shadow holly
#

ss3 is enough for slash enabling

woven haven
#

SS3 is the only rank that affects the team’s output

finite cove
#

Extra one copy too pull ig...WorryCommandant

woven haven
#

in terms of slash gain

hollow imp
#

I found a solution @dapper skiff xD I just need to 2x3ping for plunge so I can ult immediately XD

finite cove
#

SSS rank ig...💀

woven haven
finite cove
#

For DPS hanying

thorn creek
woven haven
#

hanying is alr dps at ss3 tho

quartz dove
#

Hanying sss is whatever for slash content right ?

hollow imp
#

Someone reply me to Aether's wall of text for the SS0 Phy team LivWow

finite cove
woven haven
#

but her ss3 is big even before considering trueslash

#

trueslash just makes hanying ss3 even more important

woven haven
quartz dove
#

Oh yeah res shred also work affix content

woven haven
shadow holly
frozen creek
quartz dove
thorn creek
#

Global is gonna commit from affixes for sure

quartz dove
#

Honestly this affix couldve done in better way

frozen creek
#

Allthese whales acting surprised like they aren't pulling sss instantly

woven haven
#

hey wanshi sss3 and sss+ have affix dmg up too look at that
same as balter sss+

quartz dove
#

Aite time to use brs selector to get balte again

woven haven
# quartz dove Oh yeah res shred also work affix content

SSS Hanying:

Base DMG amplifying effect from each consecutive cast of Azure Allure increases to 100%.
(doubles core dmg bonus from multiple casts)

While in Way of Strife, triggers a single cast of Phoenix Down upon completely filling Complex Time points inside Moonsong Realm.
(Deals slash dmg when core bar is full in ult, and adds marks on enemies that hanying can basic to get orbs and deal more slash dmg)
Extra DMG of Trueslash performed by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 100%.

Seems obvious

Penetrating Pivot effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 10%. Reduces swap cooldown of all party members by 3s; this cannot be stacked with other swap cooldown-reducing effects.

seems obvious

quartz dove
#

Wth is phoenix down again

shadow holly
#

core i think

quartz dove
#

Blue dart orb ?

shadow holly
#

or uhh one of the parts of her core

hollow imp
#

With Feral and Arclight, would it be better for DV Feral, Heisen ARc or 4guin2gloria Feral and DV Arc?

shadow holly
#

i havent read it taht thoroughly i still dont know what excatly arephoenix down and azure allure

river nymph
hollow imp
sleek basin
mystic moat
#

How many inver shards from the dorm do you need to get the S characters, all 50?

woven haven
# quartz dove Wth is phoenix down again

it inflicts debuff on enemies + adds stack to hanying

basic attacking debuffed enemies consumes all stack to debuff to deal more slash dmg per stack

for each stack hanying has on herself, that same move also regens 2/3/4 orbs

mystic moat
#

Cheers

slender aurora
woven haven
#

phoenix down is triggered two ways
first core when bar is full
SSS: filling the bar to full

sleek basin
hollow imp
sleek basin
slender aurora
woven haven
#

Hanying SS3 changes her build, enables actual trueslash rotation, +shred, free orbs, free 15% EDB

hollow imp
#

Phy is the top team rn in CN? Not CW?

woven haven
thorn creek
hollow imp
woven haven
hollow imp
quartz dove
#

Fire too op

shadow holly
hollow imp
woven haven
quartz dove
#

Dark is in danger

#

Reminder they have second gen tank

nova forum
#

DumbDawn just sss3 her

woven haven
slender aurora
#

capri needs to go asap fr

woven haven
#

stuck with sig mem

hollow imp
quartz dove
#

Is capri leaving gonna save dark tho ?

woven haven
shadow holly
#

no its literally how much more damage all the other teams do compared to teh shtty lightning team with cw

nova forum
#

Capri leaving gonna set me on fire

shadow holly
#

but yeah ig ppc bosses still correlate to their damagge output

nova forum
#

Kuro better make sig Reso removable

slender aurora
#

light needs to be saved by a new tank

woven haven
shadow holly
#

are the same total scores for bosses around the same difficulty as they were before test/elite removal
or is 600k like, easier to do than it is rn on global

#

i dont remember whether ive asked this already

woven haven
shadow holly
woven haven
#

they put test/elite score into 3/4/5

#

if you get same times as before the change on 3/4/5 your score is slightly higher

#

just a tiny bit

#

so like a 8/8/9/9/10 is lower score than 9/9/10 post change

#

tbh with u guys i didn’t realise hanying got 100% edb on slash dmg at sss until now either wtf is that EvilLiv

floral plover
quartz dove
#

See this is why hoyo is superior

#

At low invest their chara already op

opaque ridge
#

awshit, i got told to build this for balter
am i bricked?

digital moat
#

wadapak

woven haven
#

nice

#

now go forth and play trueslash dalao

glass bay
#

very clean

opaque ridge
#

im playing oldschool runescape GIGABIRDGE

#

i dont wanna wz and ppc anymore

#

i just wanna be happy

visual topaz
slender aurora
#

not gonna find happiness in a gacha game thats fs

visual topaz
#

Cures depression

#

Avoid rerolling furniture stats

#

That's worse than pulling sigs

opaque ridge
#

i was so tempted to rip A2's set off and give it to balter

visual topaz
#

That's called recycling

opaque ridge
#

but A2 waifu so i cant betray her

visual topaz
opaque ridge
#

balter Madge changing memory sets every season

slender aurora
#

does balter ever stop changing sets and settles on one in particular

slender aurora
#

or is it fr just an eternal swapping cycle

#

oh how fantastic

woven haven
#

she changes sets on alisa, qu, hanying and lucia patches so far

visual topaz
#

Balter adapts to the meta

#

So does our HT wallet

slender aurora
#

well im not gonna have an SS3 balter so that sounds like not my problem AlphaPeek

little locust
#

How do you even keep up with having to HT all those different sets on CN

quartz dove
#

Hi tari

livid lark
little locust
woven haven
#

even ss0 changes

slender aurora
#

what

woven haven
#

yeah good luck

slender aurora
livid lark
#

because slash is almost impossible without ss3

woven haven
#

ss0 has it worse honestly because unless u have ss3 hanying you have problem juggling mems

slender aurora
#

ill get ss3 on lucia patch most likely

#

assuming im still playing by then

livid lark
river nymph
livid lark
#

that goes the same for me

#

if the meta gets too crazy im out

#

or potentially will be shite im gonna kiwi

wraith pendant
#

does selena ults in single rotation with sig? i dont have her sig and just got to ss her and ult is really inefficient

quartz dove
#

Eins and no sig...

woven haven
#

sig doubles her energy gain
no cottie = no energy

quartz dove
slender aurora
woven haven
#

absolute what the hell

quartz dove
#

Ok cut this guy some slack he isnt regular

quartz dove