#📨・meta-help
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smh empy solo
she's dealing 90% of the damage
embruh is dissapointed
op

What's the difference between signa 4x/philip II 2x with da Vinci 2x for Alisa in grayraven site?
I'll try again after eating 🏃♂️
What buff does alpha cw get for SS alr?
SS weave
**
Mortality Unbound **
Level 1 (S5): When Blade Force reaches the upper limit and unleashes Tranquil Flash, trigger all available QTEs.
Level 2 (SS): Upper limit of Lightless is increased to 600. 3-Pings and Tranquil Flash each fills Lightless by an additional 50 points. When using Weave: Turbulent Bolt, trigger Matrix if available.
trs only gooning for daren as usual
4signa 4phil is a PPC build to use with DV Rosetta in PPC
DV Rosetta needs SSS Rosetta at least
Human rights
what if its f2p ss alpha
Ehhh cause too much zaza I don’t even know how that happened
No not the 4x philip the one that's just with 2x philip
I don’t really use Spotify tho, if you want to listen to what I listen to personally then my soundcloud best for that xdd
My Spotify being used for work now so has a bunch of nonsense played on it 💀
It doesn’t need harmony ye?
yeah doesn't

@rocky wedge i forgot to tell you this but i got sniped on ice last warzone so i didn't make it to legend 
Interesting I’ll try it then
3rd rank smh
That sounds like a good thing since it’s light dark
I’m in legend tho but don’t have karen C:
And my CW not harmonized
4signa 2dv 2phil is not a build on her
it doesn't exist

it's either 4dv or 4phil

2 Phillips is only when you don't have the weapon. Because you can't get 4p da Vinci
It have the same details just diff key notes. I'm wondering if it really matters ig
4signa 2phillip is if you cant harmo her weapon
If u can u always run 4DV
First is without harmo which is 4 signa 2 philip
Second is with harmo which is 4 signa 2 dv + 2dv
Harmony on a 6 star weapon let’s you use a 2pc memory on the weapon that works with your 4pc + 2pc equipped set imo
Idk if homie knows what it is 🤔
when we resonance a memory, what are we supposed to try to get?
Yes.. Does it really play a big impact that's my question. Is it better to follow the one without harmo when i still can't do it or just go straight for the harmo build so i don't need to change it again in the future
She needs SS3 if you want to swap into her. At S she will still be better than 21 but she will only be a QTE bot bc her damage is bad
Ye if you can get her 6 star weapon even more so
Really depends on the character
It’s huge
is there any guide to it?
Straight harmo build yes it does matter
alisa's entire powerbudget is with harmo function
In echo’s case she’s pretty much near unusable without it
also fyi other units have wildly varying harmo builds
balter has about 4 main harmo builds each per rank
Other units may mot be as harmo dependent as Echo but it’s a massive boost the difference is night and day
I mean you don’t have to minmax stats with Alisa her dmg doesn’t matter enough for 5 atk or so diff to matter
So you can just put signa bottom and 1 top, have 2pc dv and Philip top also so you can change freely
^issue solved ez with this and you don’t have to worry about her infinitas if you need to focus on hypertuning other characters
I see ok thanks
so about ressonance on memories, how do i know what each of the characters need?
Wild question but is there any point to harmo garnet especially we knew she will last longer at least 8 months ++ from now?
yes still ofc
heisen is basically self refreshing eins that procs on any QTE hit not just the first
and it actually increases garn dmg
you use gray ravens lmao https://grayravens.com/wiki/Characters
from less pathetic levels
Is there any place or website where i can view and download the in-game voice lines?
Omg Aetherlao
Ult cw
I need you so bad rn

uh
sorry i'm not interested
Not in that way pervert
If you could pick between luna and feral sig which one would you pick?
luna
What's the best patch to harmo garnet then? post qu patch memory rework?
literally no damn contest luna's kit is locked behind sig
Damn
right on qu patch yes
Thanks this was the most important info I've received today
Old Luna passive is in new Luna sig
oooh yeah thats not good 😭 they clear it up in details but listing ult as the primary reso is goofy behavior
The free Hannah
Nah bro tf they mean ult is primary dmg in wz
24 to 12 orbs 
24 to 16
☠️

Newer gen but least better 
Btw how does void element even work? Bc thats luna oblivion’s element right
void is just another colour of element
HOWEVER
there's a specific thing with void WZ/PPC where enemies have void shields
basically they take no dmg until shield HP is depleted
Void units have the affix "Disorder" which increases DMG dealt to void shields under specific circumstances
Do we have any other void units coming?
this is currenly only Teddy and Luna (Teddy's dmg is garbage so really its just Luna)
Ooo
nope but it matters less since luna's class passive exists
cant wait for the luna comeback
oh right GR still has SS3 Luna listed as "competitive" when its a rank that does nothing
i like how everytime i search void
is just a big ass text from aether
about som random thing
Luna SS3 is so bad
Global needs to pass qu patch first
Did you actually searching void everyday to find whether someone badmouthing your guild or smth?
ye
Ahh alright, also quick question what do I spend PPC skulls on? rn i have CW and Rigor as my only meta characters (getting balter and lamia next patch)
udont?
ego searching
☠️

I dont ego surf, i know where i am 
Bruh boomers are so doomed
I feel like my guild is nonexistent even tho it's 5th ranked on huaxu, so i don't really search it
My insurance agent had to call her assistant over bc she didn't know how to zoom in on her pdf
it couldve been 1
but u dont want
i tried it once out of curiosity when i learnt what the concept was
all i got was aether gazer 

or you know
twinky genshin mc
u have to search in the channel
press ctrl + f
i learned abt egosurfing from oshi no ko
ye i know that exists
ye but
guild is like not that big
oh u mean that
nah i dont rly do that
just in guilds taht ik dislikes us
Should've tried to find out whether ppl badmouthing you first before your guild tbf
idrc what people say about void
cuz pgr comunitty is rly stupid
like theres one guild that hates us cuz a old guy from our gguild just went there and said bad things


speaking of luna
i really dunno how people think this is tank passive
New Tank class when?
i can see how
I do have a small feeling that Physical will be the second Annihilator


its like
such a dumb thing to see attacker+ and think tank
even worse is people trying to cram alisa and somehow rosetta into luna team thinking that annihilator works with physical when its EXPLICLITY anti physical
we only had a Hanying-Luna for like 1 week cuz it was bugged and the buff filter wasn't working
but other than that its been explicitly mentioned physical and annihilator are incompatible
i think its both kinda kuro writing and people bad brain rly
phys part is dumb
when come out
(void)
they labelled everything under "elements"
I keep forgetting that Annihilator isn’t compatible with Physical
so u read this sh ie t and think
"oh all elemental means phys too" when its just wrong
Forget what I said 
nah like
well i guess it makes people believe phys is a element
but phys is usualy considered diff than them
but casual player wont know i guess
doesn't help that people trying to mooch off MTL don't understand CN has different terms for Attribute (includes phys) and Element (excludes phys)
unless u rly understand things
and so they tossed it under umbrella term
i dont think kuro rly says about it
In kr we define as 속성(attribute) and 원소(element) too
i think EN PGR calls Attribute "energy" or smth
However it is still confusing term
but lmao who tf says energy in EN
tbh u do have to know,that majority of en people
dont even know
that tanks can shred
and they play like 2 dps
so its both brain dmg from people
I realised it day 3 of playing when i found only phys can crit, so it's dumb to categorize it as 'element'
and kuro writing being xdd
i can't wait for the dumb luna solo arguments
cuz these people skipped wata and have no tank that does actual dmg
oh my god they'll need to wait months to use SS Wanshi with Luna puke
Luna only void unit hence solo Luna 🗣️
Watanabe slander has been singlehandedly the worst thing
it doesn't help that lucia released and now all the lee skippers are like LETS SKIP WATA TOO
it truly proves that PGR GLB has no sane train of thought besides horni
to be fair pgr is still a gacha game
preying on the horni and parasocial is the name of the game
thats where the money is 💀
i can't wait for these people to run empy mech lucia and wonder why they lose to wata teams
whasts the flare bein good with luna
i remember seeing it
why and when is it used
For if wata is unavailable generally
waifu over meta bro
true
when WZ waves absolutely suck and you need Luna to do more rotations than Wata's off field bombardment duration
due to like chaining of shielded waves or smth
how could a m*le possibly be better than my pwetty wittle waifus 🥺
wz too oh it’s over 
you don't want to swap over to wata on a fresh shield wave
imagine doing void content w/o luna
sounds horrific
For PPC idt you ever use garn?
i have 50 mats left
garnet still no harmony (the rest of meta team already have harmo weapon)
do i really need garnet harmo ? 
Do you want guild clown role
the tank incident 3.0
worst comes to worst in void PPC
if wata is unavailable
Scire DV Bathlon comes to mind
just wait for next patch
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
do you want the
short answer or the crackpot "I'M TELLING U KURO WILL DO THIS" answer
surely its lighning tank

nooooooooooooooooooooo
no not even lightning tank
that's not what i'm focusing on here
the recent tankiness of everything has been scaling up way past what units have been able to handle
444 teams are scoring 26s on tifa
HARMO LEVEL 2 AND 3 WILL RETURN SOON
i swear they will release harmo lvls
in the next few patches
with this level of tankiness
They haven’t removed them in ui even now so it’s not even a crackpot theory it’s likely
look if 2.333 team is 41s on latest onslaught boss its like clear
they're bloating stuff to sell solution later
Stop.
stop powercreep, start lewds
yet

setsu revealing he has
information
Whatduhell
tomorrow is beta anyways so i'll see whatever this is




guess kuro plan
FK off
S rank Lightning tank next patch frfr
FK off
no break full steam ahead lets gooooooooooooooooooooooo
noctis S rank as the new lightning tank 🙂 🧢

You deserved it more than me 
I just forgor a whole harmo on the rewards tab
If u have serum packs that wont last until next patch but u dont need anything from event shop, is it fine to use them for story?

what would they put on it
Using for story is never a terrible idea at the very least
Is there anything better i can spend them on outside of event or?
AE-5 mats probably
Arent mat grinding stages just less efficient event stages 
Nanami gundam will be lightning tank
Bro trust me 
Void tank 
Nanamecha 2.0?!
Yeah but doesn’t look like she’s on a mecha like before
She doesn't need P. O. W. E. R.
nanaknight will save pgr
ye itgs just u need the ae5 spinny tops for unlocking harmo sets
eos cancelled by bananami
The true heroine is nanami
Not lucia / alpha
It's actually ishmael trust
always has been
time knight 11
80472
LMAO wtf i onetapped it it took me more than half an hour to get last time
dalao
yellow themed = definitely not lightning/ion CLUELESS

Just got 6* rosetta weapon, what do i do with her 5* weapon now..
Cast it into the fire destroy it
I cant use it for resonances?
yeah
just make sure you don't end up using it as reso on a character you'll eventually get a sig for
What do they mean by "No more crit mald" what's crit mald?
Someone educate this man on crit and float
that's what helpers are for, I'm just a spectator 
Is it okay to keep my crimson weave, balter or lamia on 5*?
Windbell! Grant me the power to be better in dark wz and ppc and my life is yours
cw definetly
that's one you can sacrifice
without feeling like you're losing half their kit
cause her sig is pure dmg
no qol
Ah alright, so its fine to use 5* rosetta weapon for 5* crimson weapon right?
Crimson weave*

@steady otter
Is +30 atk and +30 crit good for crimson weave on weapon reso
that's all you can get
effectively wasting the 30 crit
since elemental dmg doesn't crit
but you can't reso any other stats
with 5* weapons
Ohh

Gl gl

U mean memory reso?
bro literally said weapon reso
No weapon reso

Like i used 5* weapon on 5* weapon
I haven’t seen crit in a wep reso
Ah i can send a SS?
Ohh 5*

we're too f2p for you
Yeah i used my 5* rosetta weapon for 5* cw weapon bc i got 6* rosetta
It's so sad you're on eu tho
Guys should I do rotation with my Phys team? (for WZ/PPC): SS Balter + Sig (w Glorious reso) , SS Echo + Sig (Harmo) and S Rigor + Sig
Yes
I think my friend officially quit
Pulled cw then 1 month later kiwi
Girl
Wz would be harder cuz off element teams do significantly less dmg compared to same element team
all that awaits is qu orb mald from now on
But if that’s ur only invested team, then go for it
I mean if there's a Physical Warzone not the WZ rn
Pathetic
Finally time for eos
You will do the regular rotation because you can't solo
if you do it will be a dps loss cause you'll be aaing for orbs
is it worth getting feral or do i just save for lamia patch?
I mean shes my only main dps and i got told lamia and balter get much more worth from their 6* so..
Oh ok, I just got curious since I saw lots of comments in a yt vid saying Alisa deals too low dmg and will cause dps loss
(Well only GOOD main dps)
It's a different story when your balter is only ss
Lamia patch has a selector in basic banner so u can also get feral from there
Yt comments
Ohh alright thxx
Heh
I keep seeing people suggest feral but others say balter does it like depend on what u have
I'd still suggest ss3 wata over feral personally ngl
Just use sss r2 empy on light later
Yeah but overall feral has more uses in the future than balter ngl
Cw solo is dawei
ss3 means 2x full copies of him?
alrr ty!
2 pulls and one copy from wz
Wait i got told to get balter from my Base A rank, is that wrong? I already used serum to get all her memories so 
damn thats a lot
2 copies and 440 skulls
Well in the future, we do get a free balter and feral at that time is still only obtainable from pulling her
might as well save 30k bc for wata patch 💀

So do I get balter or feral now
Copy from wz omg
why does beginner experience still suck
I literally started with 5 teams
must be the jp curse
Balter without sig is more valuable than feral without sig, just saying but you do you
Ahh alright, i think i’ll just trust the guy and get balter 
^
I still solo cw personally btw
Jist swipe for s+ fr

Idek if im playing CW correctly i just kill things so i think it works
like if luna wasn't literally the patch after teddy I'd be getting feral sig rn on jp
it sucks so bad cause it's like I didn't even get feral at all

Feral if u care about longevity, balter if u care about ur scores now
Balter if ur into goth girls, feral if ur into furries
Can f2ps even afford sigs though?
Once in a blue moon
depends on who you are
Can u explain
Like when u started? Current roster?
I'll dumb it down for you
you have a lot of permanent stuff
that you can use as bc leeway
Yea btch u better trust me

when you run out of that, you pretty much can't get sigs unless you luccsacc early units
stuff like cursed waves
stronghold
etc
Ohhh
the who you are part basically means that you gotta get lucky either way
just cursed waves give smth like 7500 premium unit cards.
cause even with all that
you probably still won't have enough to get all the sigs you want
if you hit pity every time
Basically ye
F2p that are fully caught up on roster can pull sig
But if you're not caught up on chars you gotta save your scraps to backpull on the few occasions you can safely do so
3500
back pulling in general is just a bad idea
Or 3750 idk
just wait for units to become free or get powercrept
oh that low. well half a sig almost there.
cope until then
Dang thats more than i have right now
me: I should quit
also me: I want echo weapon, so I'll just 💳 for
and get a weapon pass and bundle

theres a ton of modes also that give a tiny bit but it really adds up fast.
Talking about ur rc?
Nah im f2p
becomes free

Isnt she gonna become voucherable
Ss3 is not free unless you wait like 2 yrs
Omg dq alt acc
I mean, just spend 5$ for a daily login, that's like a cup of coffee.
still manageable
Ye
Not rly
bros cooked for lamia
yeah really
So this is how whels think 
Im kinda on the fence on whether to get capriccio SSS or SS3 daren with my vouchers bc wouldnt daren be here before i get capriccio SSS?
Hey, I used to pay 15$ per month for mmos back then and that was fine with me.
If you can manage backpull daren its way better than trying to unlock her purely from voucher shards
would you rather miss wata and qu sigs who are both new units and will live longer than daren or get daren
Ff14?
Im skipping fish
Same
Daren has likely equal or longer lifespan cause ion lol
bros skipping fish 💀💀💀💀💀
or just get Daren for free w vouchers
damn if you start on pgr today the account prog lowkey sounds like hell
I finally ss3'd her from anniversary 

And there are so many units to voucher
or from a selector
Right in front of me?
It's not that bad, just a few slow weeks at start before you can get your first shiny gen2 dps that can carry you.
but losing alisa sig 80/20 was unexpected 🥲
Daren could get replaced as a dark tank and still be used as an ion tank
if you're f2p the choice is obvious ngl
All I'm sayin is if you have the leeway to backpull, you should do so for daren
Dw i lost too
Well, i lost after winning
Was going for reso so doesnt matter
Got Alisa, Selena and Anya in around 2months or so.
but like even then wont u be just saving for future banners and mostly playing the new gen DPS fulltime onfield with QTE bots? since u wont have the other units to finish the team
Yeah, after 3 months now I'm finally got my first 2 rot decks
I can confirm this is basically me with CW rn…
phys was easy, rosetta and alisa is free so just needed to pull stigmata on this anni
also you can still rotate without a full deck.
I wouldnt recommend
Whel
just use off element rots... Its often better then just playing a single unit, if anything just to not be a sitting duck as you dont have orbs for invuln and super armor spam
Theres no point swapping if u dont got a lumi or alisa in phys

nah, my SS Rosetta Rigor is worth swapping to, ultimate hits hard af. My Stigmata is just S with a 5* wpn
Im skipping fish and wata and qu for luna
S with 5*
good
what if its lower than that? despair
New players wont have rosetta ss
Technically speaking u can already get ss balter once u get to ult ppc just from achievements alone
Or ss anyone
She's sorta low prio tho...
But daren can be gotten from luna selector
been putting my skulls into Scire
Balter ss isnt low prio wdym

Its one of the highest bro

It has qte trigger, more than double her ult dmg
Nah, my prio will always be to strengthen my weakest decks.
my Anya is extra thicc compared to rest of my units as shes my only ice so shes solo.
Scire needs ss3, not ss0
bro, you made a new account? @timber yoke
Locked out of old one cuz of 2fa
welp
got lucky and got 2x Scire in a 10x1
If you pulled early S rank
My scire is staying at S until her leap comes out
Snazz is f2p on pgr tw and can snatch 2-3 sigs
tickets going into best girl ofc.

only the best for future best girl, lamia.
Read the whole conversation
We're gacha players. We won't read
To dumb it down I just said it was better to get 2 sigs for up to date units than backpull daren who can be vouchered or gotten from selector
is there even a "account progression" guide or something like that explaining the pull priority for bricked accounts? 
Just pull all future units honestly
I mean yeah that was my point too
My general point is, don't backpull units
my only 2 sigs is feral and alya.
@velvet agate
#📨・meta-help message
Our points align then 
but like this is implied to also pull sig/cubs or just 1x copy of the debut construct banner
U don't have alisa sig?
Lol the one time someone actually agrees with me, thanks I wasn't trusted on basic math once and it hurt my feelings
alya 🔨 🧱 with her tighs.
nop
Bricked
Ayo backpulling in pgr is never good thing esp for f2p anyway
This is a man
it's fine when you say it, but with my rep random ppl who weren't even in the chat will pop up just to dispute me 
I'm stea-saving this
I can't see how ppl would have the resource to do it unless they got early S rank
You wouldn't
15k bc is too much
Not in global yes
it's almost all the f2p permanent bc you have
On jp
idk either
probably gonna have to play longer to see the actual state of the server
so far didn't see one person that spoke english
if I type anything in world chat I'm met with eternal silence
Jp is currently dying rn
they can't kill it after I got the most broken start ever
Like the cutoff for 1% exppc keeps decreasing every week
I was never gonna 1% anyway
dudes in recruit have r3 cw
did you see my wz brackets?
I'm getting mauled before lvl 80
cn
probably
jp is like eu at this point
at least in eu I could laugh at the chat
seen too many gems there
met trance
we used to do nightmare gab every week 
Why did I ever leave...
Other than cn
Cn > tw > jp > global > kr prob
Not sure abt the ranking between global and jp
but kr is probably at the bottom regardless
Entire globful combined can't even beat jp?
.
totally not because i'm biased since im jp
mine would be like this cn > tw = gb > jp > kr
Isn't jp smaller than glb
wait are any of karenina's frames attacker frames?
Her first 2 frames lmao
ember
karenina ember
and blast both attackers
Prob.
She actually becomes a tank as Scire
I'm not sure if taiwan has that much players
It should have a couple at least
I'm putting it equal with global
Same actually
I feel like that's more than fair
so it is possible for constructs with attacker frames to get supportive frames
It used to be have a lot of players before
There's a sizable amount of them that are foreign
BP shard selectors dont update right
praying for fire tank lee i want gray raven squad back 
TW is easier to sign up for since you don't need ID or w/e
constructs and frames exist for that purpose, future frames aren't related to past frames unless you're the gray raven squad
Do tw F2p have rights
Could ask snazz. Since he can prolly see the 1% threshold
In other words TW is for people who took the L on the restrictions on foreigners for CN
There's no rights in any mobile games
daren voucher? isn't that quite far?
yeah but apart from karenina, do any constructs have both attacker and non-attacker frames
also you should just get both
Vera
Halp
Wanshi
Like 7 months away
Watanabe
No
Watanabe
Wait u saying even whel no rights?
ones in ur inventory no
there's attacker vera?
Tank and Support
Okie then thx
Daren leap happens in Hanying
ok yeah watanabe true
@grand jay how many hours for cbt to begin?
right to give publisher money in exchange of beatings
I don't know
Did you read my DM 
i meant both attacker and non-attacker frames
non-attacker -> tank amp support
You didn't sign up?
So just attacker transitions?
im referring to cases like karenina and wata
they have attacker frames and non-attacker(tank/amp/supp) frames
Remember rights are earned, not given 👀
Also 1% in TW is for SSS players, SS it’s impossible
Not like we have that many
Ik i haven't read it since it's on another alt and it's impossible for me to have discussions at 4 am. 
Wata and Karen is all you can get unless you're counting uniframes, in which case it's also Qu.
its pretty simple rly,more time u spend dealing with people,more frustrated u get
True
dont use slurs in the server
Do you know how much cutoff for tw exppc
un*frame 
now i rly just come here and asnwer what i feel like
someone draw popcorn liv
reminded me i promised to have chat with kirai too but i haven't DM'ed him for 2 weeks
I wish camu got crimson abyss treatment because shouldnt she technically be uni (i know she came out before uniframes but u guys get me right)
I'm sure you and the 2 other camu fans feel the same
He did have same fate as CA rn
Both are already ded
at least ca was alive
nothing beats launch ca
That summer break when pgr came out was legendary
and then I failed 2 80/20 on crimson birch and quit
good times

Uniframes were supposed to be Transcendants specifically, not just Ascendants like Alpha or Luna
But they got inconsistent about this logic later anyway
can I have a little help on what units to invest? this is my current roster https://huaxu.app/players/na/16196231/characters
I have used up all the selectors given until now so theres no rosetta sadly (yes this is 🧱) - this account have 20k bc saved so I really dont want to reroll and try to start fixing some early mistakes by taking good decisions from now on
I will be skipping alisa sig on this patch to try lamia + her sig on the next patch, with that in mind what units/playabe team can I make out of this current roster? I know theres a thing about using some units as QTE bots even off element but dont really know how to put the pieces and most guides I found recommend teams with units I dont have
🔥
Dam no balter either
oh wowie this is quite the brick
If you had balter i would've suggested alisa sig anyway over lamia sig, but since you don't, not much point rn
Just wait for next patch and get lamia and make a budget dark
get kaleido from dorm obv
and make a cope ice
yeah basically all you can do is wait and pull for new characters as they come out
but like lamia qte bots will be rozen+21 dark? or 21 dark on A is so bad that I should use something like alisa
i honestly wouldnt even go for lamia sig bc wata/qu is coming up
Basically the two teams you'll have are lamia, rozen and 21 and ice kaleido, bambi and chungus
the rest you'll save for wata and qu to uncope ur ice
whos chungus
Xxi and rozen is fine
and have a semi fire team with uncle
Changyu
so I kinda want to not go for lamia sig then right? to get wata/qu
Ye
and who should I pick on the standard selector coming up

Basically the 3 teams you'll have are
Lamia, Rozen and 21
Kaleido, Changyu, Bambi/Qu
Wata and 2 qte bots
thanks!
Balter imo
sophia and brilliance for wata qte bot 🔥
The standard selector
Or cw, either works
Probably CW
I'd go CW over Balter
get cw
coz feral right?
aight
Hear me out though
So that's a fourth team with CW, Arclight and Feral
This lightning wz is so pain why are the mobs so far apart
Also it's because CW essentially kicks off lightning herself
Having two mediocre teams is better than having one complete team
My current team on jp
I think cw is fine too, but thats my argument for balter
With PPC as the priority, no
I mean if you want to arbitrarily set ppc as the standard no
But def the case for wz
Thing is
PPC should be the priority
skulls >> wz currency
even if free Balter is a year away it's still a free balter
You can get by with 3 teams for ppc anyway
You will be in 10-30% anyway until you have full meta lineups
that helps a lot, with all the insights - thanks a lot
I'll try to stick to the plan and get these cope teams online
With a complete team, yeah
which active skill on alisa cubbie? 
2 half baked teams nah
Basically the 4 teams you'll have are
Lamia, Rozen and 21
Kaleido, Changyu, Bambi/Qu
Wata and 2 qte bots
CW( standard pick), Feral and Arclight
Later on you get a free Balter so you can complete you phys then I also understand the Balter pick but it's just a worse option imo
Nah you can be 10-30% with half baked teams
half baked > baked by lucia
Its a really low bar
yeah but you can easily get higher
Not really no
with complete teams
Getting past 10% takes a while
arclight is A right? I focus on him on when getting cw for the selector
But getting into 30% is really free
Yeah
absolutely
Lucia is much more valuable
especially without Rigor
thanks a ton! sigs/cubs are gg from this spot tho right? like a distant dream
All depends on your luck my friend, never say never
A rank cubs are usually wanted for their elemental boost skill
or in lingyas case for a different skill
They fit into places but investing is probably a bad deal if you plan on pulling any
If you don't plan on pulling any sig cubs you can level the A cub skills
if you're planning on pulling cubs
make sure you get watas
that's all from me on cubs
And all future S cubs
Lamia cub is really good too
aigh, but I'll prob skip needing to save for qu tho lol
Smart choice
Do you buy cub bp
If you don't buy cub bp basically give up on pulling cubs 
Not worth using bc
Just cope with 1 pull per norman
Getting all S chars > their sig wep/cubs
like saving those norman pulls feels like torture
nah, just the classic 1 norman pull
Doomed
based f2p
Dry af
we play the game on higher difficulty
from all that 4 teams, when I get off element (physical) lamia team is my "bruteforce" team to go right?
Probably
Yeah, until Qu
1 pull and a dream🙏
what the r1 stands for
Resonance
Weapon resonance
oh okay
That’s when u get 6* wep
and Qu is really orb hungry
orbsmaxxing
you can only reso and harmo 6* weapons
I'm not feeling them as much rn
thats gonna be an everyone issue tho so it is what it is
but I got r1 so what do I know 
when wanshi releases it won't matter anyways
it's just those 6 months will be incredibly cope
even with r1
cause orb rng is the closest thing to self harm this game has to offer
Qu is skill check patch
we still have glb players convinced qu wz will be simple and boring

Let them live in ignorance, some say it's bliss.

btw with all the 4 teams ready to play they will be the strongest option in their respective element right? I kinda have the feeling that maybe lamia will be stronger since other teams feels a lot weaker but idk how bad the off element damage drop offs
Ez top 1% ult ppc
They're the strongest options for you my friend
Pretty much always you wanna stick to not off-elementing wz
off element wz (outside of void and excluding post-wanshi rework) is a 80%+ dmg loss
hmm okay, I know off elementing was bad just didnt know HOW bad
damn
Well now you know
like just the modifiers alone are bad
on element gets 30% dmg bonus
off element gets -70% dmg bonus
so 1.3x vs 0.3x
but on top of that enemies also have reduced res and vulnerability to the on element
Unless your other team is so cope (my glb dark) that it somehow still loses to my phys but those are rare cases
so yeah its… bad
Aether is SS3 more valuable for luna, wata, or qu?
It's more valuable for Hanying
Luna useless
Wata shred increase, okay
Qu dmg increase only
prob wata
thats CRAZY
Assuming amps are all SSS and tanks all SS except SS3 Daren
Back in my day it was different
this is our punishment for clown WZ
we used to have a garnet empyrea mech team steal every wz
now… yeahhhhhhh
The good old days
kuro took a sledgehammer to that
unbelievable that mech was actually meta
then again the last S rank before garn was chrome so
💀
We need a new kamui frame
wasnt it when time-stop ults broke the game?
he’s on his way next year or smth
yes
when it was buggy as hell
No it’s impossible for me to see now 😅 but I think it’s less then 20
Isn't watashi better than changyu
this is same as class passive right
Ye
Legend doesn’t even have 50 players at once
ty
Yeah the one that's a year away
yes this is class passive level increase
thanks
idk what’s with EN tl but
No the a rank one
healer not tank
He's a support not a tank, different role
A rank Wanshi is support and supports can’t replace tanks
Because of a thing called class passive that reduces damage reduction
AHHH I FORGOT
WHAT THE NAME WAS FOR THE STAT
no it reduces dmg reduction
YES THAT THANK YOU
Oh so what is the premier ice team when qu comes out
Kaleido Glory Qu
the other one is.... weirder
Garnet Oblivion Qu
similar to EU, i knew it
Wait garnet oblivion qu exists?
which means vouchering her to SSS before empy/daren/wanshi/balter/cw in vouchers
I remember when garnet was the top lightning dps
and given garn's shaky longevity that's just
Not a good idea
not for non BP buyers
Garnet was the top anything dps for a bit 
but yes garn oblivion Qu exists because CHROME IS SUCH A GARBAGE TANKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
its genuinely enough to trade amp resos, 20% ice buff, and guin buff for 20% shred + better aoe and uptime apparently
💀
How does leaped daren work in cw feral team, I don't wanna get garnet so I'm curious how the shred compares
poorly
Better than arcunt?
it needs daren to charge up red -> 3x3ping -> hold atk -> ult -> swap off for 12s of lightning shred
Ohhhh
so feral isn't receiving any of this
Nah I'm not dealing with that
the only good benefit is with SS3 heat field on heisen
Objectively the affix gameplay is pretty bad if you compare it to standard teams i think
which is somewhat better than arclight i suppose
Leap Daren lightning is really just to enable ion for lucia
lucia is incapable of starting ion mode herself without great pain
and lots of orbs wasted
Then Daren I must either way
@visual topaz i take back what i said 
EU is better now tho xD but ye they used to be almost identical tbh
Thank you for getting this Yatta guy, he sniped me from hero once
Even getting 1-5% was hard with a F2P acc but I did do it a few times
Also if slack you 100% fall to 5-10% with any bit of slack
I see a lot of one taps in ice warzone xD
You can see someone takes one score and never increases it 😅
Qu singlehandledly killed WZ malding
for ice WZ
you can see everyone with same invest just slack so hard
onetap and out
i guess its free score if you like the pain

凹 - TW players were using this a lot with Qu which means mald xdd
But ironically it looks like a chair also
ye
i mean bili doesn't have qu mald videos for nothing
we got rage compilations of stagger
send vid
we got rage compilations of 2x3 orbs on qu after ult
AGHHHH DON'T TALK ABOUT THE STAGGER

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1d64y1c7ib/
this is the orb rng one
stagger one got deleted
i think the creator quit the game 💀
tunaji
that's the only choice he had
toilet simulator made him kiwi
its funny that of all units
when you 2 3pings its usually an okay sign
on Qu when u don't see a 1ping u fucced up
hi aetherlao i heard ss3 hanying yoinks patton from balter so does balter still run patton or she goes back to charlotte
YES
charlotte catherine + random 2pc
Darwin for SSS, probably Signa for SS
SS3 i dunno maybe cottie 2pc?
I'd be fine with the stagger or the trash orb rng alone, but the two in one package I'm not feeling it
if shes fast enough with leeu i can harmo cath and save myself from ht cath
or just reuse cottie and harmo cath if she needs it
thx
signa is better than leeu isn't it
if i have enough ht i can afford it but i alr have a leeu set
also need to rereso it
mem leeu
yeah i think signa is better
this fkn game changing balter sets every 4 patches
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ii4y1z7YR/ @visual topaz here's a "where the f*ck did Qu send the bear to"
I just got into wz, it's ice and dark 💀
need to add balter changing sets on bingo sheet fr
wait she can yeet bears to another plane of existence?
💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
Nooo martin
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JZ421m7LF/ this one i think chrome QTE miss
yeah
Glory just QTEd somewhere
hear his voiceline
but didn't see
He’s just goated like that
SSS Wata > Plume in Ice pre-qu
Aether im getting gacha addiction hitting me please doompost about future meta to prevent me from bricking myself
he's just that goat


Frick idk if it’s enoggh
That Scire SS3 looking way too tenpting I wanna unbrick my dark team so badly
FRICK WANSHI
Don't mind if I do
i knew you would
Everyone does
Frfr
girls playing ice team : it should have been me not ploom
how many spinners do you get per ae5 run on avg
not a lot
60?
Like 70ish?
clip dead
rip
this is what playing Shukra does to a malder
Can't wait to get jumpscared by 3x2 pings
🟡🟡🔴🔴🔵🔵
3x2 and 2x3 both bad







