📨・meta-help

[rocky wedge]

so strong🤤

[jade rain]

I'm eepy

[vast zinc]

are uniframes good? Since i see theyre guaranteed in like 10 pulls?

[woven sable]

No

[shadow holly]

waste of pulls

[vast zinc]

ohh alr, ty!

[spice parrot]

I have harmonized cw already so now i harmonized alisa right?

[shadow holly]

alisa is the first priority why didnt you do her first lol

but yes
alisa is the highest prio harmo in the game easily

[jade rain]

What's your bet on why he didn't do it

"Cw is cooler"

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

CW is cool and segsy

[jade rain]

What invest

[hazy sandal]

3.1/4/4

[shadow holly]

wao obiz

[carmine reef]

[jade rain]

Also why not Yakuza skin smh

[lilac wraith]

Oh nyo it's zexous

[jade rain]

We were trying to find you a couple of minutes ago

[lilac wraith]

Time to sleep ig

[vast zinc]

i just got flashbanged by cool colors

[digital moat]

I got 1.26mil with unimate mech

[carmine reef]

Hi blue angel fei

Good night sleep tight

[shadow holly]

damn sexous what a celebrity

[jade rain]

Did you resolve it?

[jade rain]

Where's my good night

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/920386719545700422.png?size=48

[carmine reef]

I've given you a good night before

When you say you're sleeping

[lilac wraith]

I'm retiring this acc starting from tmr

[jade rain]

It's 2 in the morning

[spice parrot]

ah from the pins i thought cw and alisa were equal priority. Ty for the info

[jade rain]

1:51 am actually

[carmine reef]

Rest in peace

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[lilac wraith]

Because i need to use it for work purpose so i'm gonna use red more

[jade rain]

Oh nyo fei kiwi

[carmine reef]

Devil full time

The devil in G string

[jade rain]

Can't you get helper role transferred

[lilac wraith]

Prob will be just getting it online every monday to pin ppc

[jade rain]

[digital moat]

I couldnt

[lilac wraith]

That would mean to authenticate my alt and i don't wanna

[digital moat]

Filing an appeal

[jade rain]

Come to think of it who gives out helper roles? Mods?

[remote pier]

feilao kiwi?

[lilac wraith]

It's classified information

[remote pier]

isn't it Jerey?

[jade rain]

Are they like a secret agency that chooses the best of the best

[jade rain]

Maybe it's violet herself

[steep timber]

I think its like pokemon

[jade rain]

She always has everything under Ctrl

[lilac wraith]

Idk i turned blue during my sleep and found out when i woke up

[steep timber]

They just catch u and shove u into a small area until u liste to their every command

[remote pier]

what a nice surprise

[shadow holly]

bro got the smurf transformation

[jade rain]

Then there must be someone lurking

[steep timber]

Wait yeah why r u blue

Arent u an important red role

[shadow holly]

he doesnt know

[remote pier]

if only you woke up to having 10k RC in your account

[jade rain]

A mod lurking chat?

Better yet, game staff

[lilac wraith]

Wdym important red role

[steep timber]

Game staff please free pulls

[steep timber]

Werent u red before or am i dumb

[carmine reef]

See

[jade rain]

Don't tell him

[lilac wraith]

Technically i was red before i turned blue yeah

[carmine reef]

How can you give up the account fei

[steep timber]

[carmine reef]

It still gets people even passively

[remote pier]

[lilac wraith]

[steep timber]

Maybe its a bug? Or like an accident idk

[carmine reef]

[lilac wraith]

I'll still use it for pin purpose and deleting free gift post

[steep timber]

[carmine reef]

Will you say hi back to me on red fei

[lilac wraith]

Not now

[jade rain]

Fei has favourites

[carmine reef]

One day

[jade rain]

She only says hi to her favourites

[carmine reef]

That's true

[nova forum]

Fcking finally got safe position

[lilac wraith]

Someone might snipe you last mins

[jade rain]

Don't post it

[lilac wraith]

Sea sniping is scary

[remote pier]

ping those poor souls

[nova forum]

Someone

[jade rain]

You'll get sniped

[rocky wedge]

eww lame its light dark next round wtf

[nova forum]

There's 3 position left below me

[carmine reef]

Kingdom hearts ass rotation

[nova forum]

[lilac wraith]

Dark before lamia comes

[rocky wedge]

i will be in legend yikes

[cloud steeple]

Where's Nanami beta already ?

[rocky wedge]

hopefully i get beat

[jade rain]

Why would it be Nanami

[steep timber]

Wait if its dark rn are they gonna not put dark on lamia or just double dark

[jade rain]

This happened in cn

Well not exactly but something like it

[rocky wedge]

if map on patch launch is diff, next one will be ele of launch char

[lilac wraith]

One thing for sure they will drop 3 new bosses on us when lamia patch come

[jade rain]

There wasn't fire wz on Lucia's week release

Not sure if there was one prior

[cloud steeple]

Because that's the beta I'm interested in

[jade rain]

Start coping

It's most likely an A rank

If it's Nanami, makes her even less relevant

[lilac wraith]

Another dorm S rank

[jade rain]

But surely they wouldn't make another Nanami an A rank

[lilac wraith]

They should make 4 S rank back to back with 2 S rank from dorm

[steep timber]

Nanami storm is so meta for phys tank replacement

[carmine reef]

Damn this server is a joke

[jade rain]

[jade rain]

The closest we got was two separate things

[lilac wraith]

#1057198867063513119

[carmine reef]

Cant have sht in detroit

[jade rain]

Kaleido and Qu goth skin

[steep timber]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

If fei isnt gonna be saying it its my turn

[jaunty beacon]

good i'm staying in hero

[pulsar pasture]

https://youtu.be/gXx9AEXh55M
If anyone has any idea how to play better to get a clear, i'll be grateful, but otherwise screw this 1:30 gearcheck bs.
Would've been clearable if it was 2:00 for sure.
Phys team is all SS0 and gear is shown at the end.
Thanks.

[stuck sphinx]

[stuck sphinx]

I don’t think it’s clearable with your gear

Maybe it will be after the bug is fixed

[remote pier]

y are you not going balter full stack before ult2?

[pulsar pasture]

cuz it takes too much time and risky af

[carmine reef]

[pulsar pasture]

either way ive tried full stack as well the time isnt any better

in fact most runs i rmb its worse

[shadow holly]

yeah it is not doable with your invest especially considering no sig on alisa so no harmo resulting in losing a ton of damage by not having 4dv
and no sig on balter
and also not doing 1.5 rots for some reason + doing orbs + railgun on rosetta instead of ult + slam - why

[remote pier]

y do people have Alisa cub but not Alisa sig?

[stuck sphinx]

Railgun is faster

[carmine reef]

Nonleap rose?

[stuck sphinx]

Isn’t it ?

[carmine reef]

[pulsar pasture]

its max leaped

[shadow holly]

yeah faster but for what
ult is so much more damage

[stuck sphinx]

Idk I see it used in wz sometimes

[glass bay]

Imagine playing optimally

[shadow holly]

[remote pier]

railgun does more dmg but slower iirc

[pulsar pasture]

cuz i dont wanna deal with 80/20 bs

[glass bay]

U guys are sweaty malders

I prefer to stay with hair

[frozen creek]

God these whale malders

[shadow holly]

thats cool but alisa sig is incredibly high priority ur bricking ur phys by not getting it

[jade rain]

Sig has more impact than cubs

[remote pier]

well rip harmo. Even w/ her cub, Alisa still hit like a wet noodle.

[frozen creek]

You're competing against yourselves

[carmine reef]

But its the most important part

[pulsar pasture]

i could record another run with ult + slam but i can tell u it wont be any better

[glass bay]

imagine

[pulsar pasture]

cubs are 100% ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow holly]

ofc it wont be any better because you dont even have alisa harmo + your rose isnt r1 and even no balter sig

your team is simply not enough

[frozen creek]

Pull cub then

[shadow holly]

better try with lightning sicne voodoo is bugged anyway

[frozen creek]

Trust it'll make huge difference you'll kill voodoo in 1s

[remote pier]

sigs aren't 100% therefore skip all sigs

[frozen creek]

[stuck sphinx]

Surely

[frozen creek]

Why didn't I ever think of this

[remote pier]

[shadow holly]

tbf without r1 sss rose equal invest lightning should be better

[stuck sphinx]

Average gameplay help

[carmine reef]

Too whel to care

[shadow holly]

wihtout 3s rose phys still has to deal with defense

[lilac wraith]

Prob just wait until the bug is fixed and try again

[frozen creek]

Nope just be brave and pull and whatever happens happens

[stuck sphinx]

Didn’t you watch my cr run with light

[jade rain]

Don't pull sigs until you realize they're baseline to even make certain characters function

[frozen creek]

I've always got the better end so

[stuck sphinx]

8s faster

[pulsar pasture]

u guys can have ur opinions about pulling sigs but i play this game how i want, and i rank well enough in wz/ppc to not give a damn

[stuck sphinx]

Was I playing bad

[carmine reef]

Tfw i will never have 3s rose

[shadow holly]

no but voodoo is cancer and was dodging ur damage

[lilac wraith]

It took me several retries to clear it too with ss0

[remote pier]

you are the one asking help

[jade rain]

Then why did you come here asking for advices yet refuse to take them

[stuck sphinx]

Hoyo boss fr

[shadow holly]

[glass bay]

yea thats right

[slender aurora]

me when gameplay help gives optimal gameplay help:

[pulsar pasture]

bruh u do understand that advice that requires PULLING BETTER means nothing right

[glass bay]

these guys are dirty malders, unlike us

[stuck sphinx]

Ppl get mad at me when I call Gabriel a Hoyo boss

[pulsar pasture]

im asking for gameplay help not pull help tf

[stuck sphinx]

When he just makes daren unplayable

[jade rain]

We cannot magically help your account with what you do not have, it is simply not enough

[carmine reef]

How can our advice make an impossible task possible

[jade rain]

We're working with what you have and it is simply not enough

[pulsar pasture]

alright then thanks for the help

[jade rain]

That's why the next best choice is pulling

[shadow holly]

ok from gameplay side
doing ult on rosetta is more damage
you should do 1.5 rots to fully take advantage of amp class for 2 ult2's
use 2nd joint attack on alisa after ult because it makes your next rot faster
thats the obvious ones i see

[jade rain]

Oh Aether's here

[woven haven]

ah yes the classic "newbie asks for help but reveals much deeper issues with the account" trope

[stuck sphinx]

Aetherlao

[woven haven]

i've been meaning to check that off the bingo board

[jade rain]

Does it flutter your heart with the romance

[carmine reef]

u guys can have ur opinions about pulling sigs but i play this game how i want, and i rank well enough in wz/ppc to not give a damn

[cerulean grotto]

When is wz ending

[glass bay]

werent u going to sleep?

[stuck sphinx]

2h

[shadow holly]

3 hours?

[cerulean grotto]

K thanks

[visual topaz]

1h47

[shadow holly]

oh or 2

[jade rain]

Soon, I'm eepy

[shadow holly]

oh oops

[velvet agate]

Trs is tripping on his time again

[woven haven]

rank well enough in wz/ppc usually means
elite/leader WZ + adv ppc so its funny that they think its "good"

[cerulean grotto]

Watching a video, 1hr left

[visual topaz]

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

[visual topaz]

My bracket is sweaty

[cerulean grotto]

Skill issue

[woven haven]

newbies will never not be funny

[stuck sphinx]

Trip on me instead

[carmine reef]

[glass bay]

[woven haven]

wait did this guy actually
pull cubs over sigs

[pulsar pasture]

funny but i rank leader/hero and occasionally legend so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

and i do ultimate ppc

[jade rain]

@livid lark bingo

[woven haven]

to do this on the patch they introduce harmo is a massive ironic joke

[stuck sphinx]

Leader/legend is crazy

[hazy sandal]

Gosu

[woven haven]

yeah someone call up the bingo board

[hazy sandal]

[jade rain]

@livid lark

[woven haven]

we got another one

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[jade rain]

This is like 2-3 squares?

[lilac wraith]

You guys are all evils

[gritty geyser]

True chat

[remote pier]

y is blue fei still on?

[stuck sphinx]

Average gameplay help chat

[near dome]

When’s the next update bruh

I want my garunteed bianca already

[lilac wraith]

Omg raph is here

[nova forum]

[woven haven]

does skipping sig entirely fall under bad harmo choice square

or is it the "idc about meta" square

[stuck sphinx]

I think both

[lilac wraith]

Echopicking a bit before going to sleep

[radiant kernel]

im a very new player to pgr, Ive been watching videos on it to learn, but one of my questions is should should I be playing on the CN version or just the global version?

[stuck sphinx]

Alisapicking

[woven haven]

CN version requires many steps and irl identity verification to make an account + no PC client access

[pulsar pasture]

i do understand harmo makes it much harder for non-sig havers to rank but idc, so idk why u care so much about how someone else spends their bc

[carmine reef]

@jade rain you lied to me

[visual topaz]

PGR Kuro acc should have pc ver

[woven haven]

this is gameplay help and given the circumstances we will always give only meta choices
if you don't want to listen then welp we tried
least we can do is add u to the bingo board

or jambu's hall of fame

[shadow holly]

[pulsar pasture]

ok so i guess i just have different expectations of the help i'll find here

thats no problem

but either way thanks for the help

[stuck sphinx]

I mean trs did help you

[nova forum]

Chat should I bother giving cw harmo?

[stuck sphinx]

For what it’s worth I cleared with 7s left with r0 balter r1 rose r1 alisa

[visual topaz]

Read pin

[stuck sphinx]

I don’t see it being possible without balter and alisa sig

[near dome]

Bruh this flute girls event is A GODDAMN HADES WANNABEE LOONG AHHH EVENT it’s gonna take forever to complete

[glass bay]

Whel

[visual topaz]

Damn they discover rdf

[woven haven]

people only point out stuff because they want to help but well if you don't want the advice its going to be hard to help you especially when invest matters as much as skill in this game

[ashen edge]

[near dome]

if I invest hard enough I win

[stuck sphinx]

Felao

[ashen edge]

this is funny

[stuck sphinx]

Your onetap beat me

[ashen edge]

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[pulsar pasture]

like i said, i get it, but i'm not gonna change how i spend my bc anytime soon so it is what it is

[woven haven]

for just rough DPS checks its hard to say much other than "have better invest" at times

[remote pier]

[nova forum]

Aight so imma give cw harmo

[stuck sphinx]

Sure

[woven haven]

so its not like we can help u on any other front if you're already doing rotations well

[nova forum]

Damn this decision is garbo

[stuck sphinx]

What

[woven haven]

but man no sig is going to hurt in the future given how bad the other units are

[ashen edge]

bro i have no clue about ice rot what i did it was random ahh rot

[stuck sphinx]

She’s basically next up in line after Alisa

[near dome]

Boobs

[nova forum]

I wanna focus on functionality instead of sheer power

[woven haven]

Wata/Luna/Qu/Lucia sigless is a nightmare

[shadow holly]

btw what lulu sig do

[jaunty beacon]

Gin

[stuck sphinx]

Polymorph 2x duration

[nova forum]

At least no harmo cw is still functional

[near dome]

Peak team building somebody cooked here

[woven haven]

Ult3 gives 3 orbs every time
Ult2 triggers matrix

[near dome]

[shadow holly]

wadahell RIOOOT

[woven haven]

not team building
i mean each of these units individually all suck without sig

[visual topaz]

Chat am I cooked

[jaunty beacon]

💀

[woven haven]

Luna has a whole core passive worth of mechanics locked behind sig

[jaunty beacon]

rip

[shadow holly]

what happened to ew

[stuck sphinx]

Where r1

[ashen edge]

do it for ppc

[near dome]

Nah put them together and have no sigs it’ll synergise fr

[jaunty beacon]

go assassinate sha before he wake up

[near dome]

[visual topaz]

Haliun said that he will wan tap

And hold back

Who knew s+ score wantap would be absolute dogshit wall for 3s

[jaunty beacon]

time to relearn ice ig

[stuck sphinx]

Have you seen @ashen edge ice onetap true dalao

[ashen edge]

what

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[visual topaz]

Jokes on you shah score is mine

[jaunty beacon]

[nova forum]

This week's PPC already doable with my current set up but not optimally cuz idk how to do slingshot

[ashen edge]

you should have seen kim 1tap his ice on legend

[visual topaz]

Ircc playing ice

[stuck sphinx]

Wave 7

[woven haven]

u know i just realised
has ice ever been fun in PGR

[ashen edge]

no

[stuck sphinx]

Boss ice good when it’s not a billion fluc

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

plume is definition of mald
Kaleido is... yeah lmao
Qu

[stuck sphinx]

And vassago being ass

[jaunty beacon]

ice was fun when we played garnet/empy on it

[visual topaz]

Haliun

[jaunty beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1262119744304320532/1227113973837729792.gif

[stuck sphinx]

Idk why I said mob

Instead of boss

[visual topaz]

Shah

Me humble

[jaunty beacon]

[near dome]

Hyper real is real but hyper

[lilac wraith]

Ice supposed to be fun until the 2 bears coming

[near dome]

The more you know

🌈 💫 ✨

[visual topaz]

Ew evolved after having been granted a new name

[jaunty beacon]

doby is free

[glass bay]

Cow is always fun what u mean

[carmine reef]

I think kaleido is fun when she isn't yeeting mfs away

[glass bay]

Good cow appreciator

[visual topaz]

I like the different Ayla skins

[ashen edge]

ye but will it help alot for other bosses, especially against hamlet you dont have to do goofy ahh 8 stacks to kill anymore

[shadow holly]

what is this pokemon ass -shit

[ashen edge]

[stuck sphinx]

Isn’t hamlet 6 stack kill

[nova forum]

Problem is I don't have any class Reso on garn and feral

[shadow holly]

wow so whel 6stack

[ashen edge]

no lol it never was before harmo

[jaunty beacon]

sorry but pokemon is busy doing ss score with s+

[nova forum]

My garn still has 6 core

[ashen edge]

8 stack for knight was really insane

[stuck sphinx]

I mean hell

[ashen edge]

my brother what

[near dome]

Should I use my garunteed on bianca stig so I don’t have to wait as long for the selector should It be someone else????? Plz answer

[visual topaz]

Check ppc guild channel

[jaunty beacon]

ik

[ashen edge]

bro its like half a year

[jaunty beacon]

[visual topaz]

Damn lurker

[ashen edge]

and your garnet still 6 cores

[visual topaz]

When are you malding gb

[stuck sphinx]

I saw some blue ht instead of red ht the other day

[restive grove]

/gb check

[glass bay]

Me too

[ashen edge]

we don't talk about that

[near dome]

[remote pier]

[visual topaz]

Gb score higher than legend score

[stuck sphinx]

No not you I mean someone who didn’t do border pact

[near dome]

[shadow holly]

do you have crimson weave? if yes then stigmata yes

[jaunty beacon]

siege is too long, low viral i don't have rozen's weapon, and dead zone sucks

[near dome]

I don’t got weave

[ashen edge]

[carmine reef]

[visual topaz]

Took me 1h to save once

[stuck sphinx]

It’s also funny seeing old players still cope for skulls

[visual topaz]

[jaunty beacon]

timestop in a nutshell

[nova forum]

I'm slow on changing Reso
Took me 2 year to finally give rose 6 class

[frozen creek]

Gb malding whel

[shadow holly]

then shes higher priority
lightning doesnt rly exist wihtout her
even if its by far the worst team on cn

[ashen edge]

[near dome]

I’m lost

[shadow holly]

[near dome]

Oh u replied lemme read

[stuck sphinx]

Hi lost

[restive grove]

hi

[stuck sphinx]

los

[restive grove]

[shadow holly]

t

[stuck sphinx]

rs

[near dome]

Gotchu I’ll just have to tank not having Bianca for a while then

[jaunty beacon]

i'm busy doing minigame

[near dome]

What’s current meta dark team?

[jaunty beacon]

luna, karenina, selena

[visual topaz]

Motorboat active 2 not targeting because I frame

[jaunty beacon]

luna kiwying in 20 days

[stuck sphinx]

Luna dead for lamia next patch

[near dome]

Isn’t lightning team all S character 💀

[shadow holly]

all meta teams are full S chars?

[near dome]

ig I gotta start sometime

[jaunty beacon]

all element are all S rank

[near dome]

I’m cooked

[stuck sphinx]

A ranks are cope

[near dome]

I’m still working on phys

[shadow holly]

like its kidna obvoius
the best choice for each role is always an S rank char
A ranks are budget alternatives if ur missing the S rank unit

[raw swift]

*dope

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-lucia-punishing-gray-raven-gif-1794097004814031042

[stuck sphinx]

Bad test. Astral S+ is ALWAYS better than Luna SS and is on par with Luna SSS. Solo camu SSS is better than both, team Camu with Max investment SSS/SSS+ is on par or better than Luna SSS depending on mission type (Battlefield she catches up waves 4-6 then lags behind final wave because Camu gets there faster and has his sig up by the time the boss is there and nukes it) and then much worse in Paincage because of obvious reasons.

Astral competes. You swapped to Vera who is always a net dps loss, you should never be swapping to Vera unless it's to proc a set bonus or use ONE 3 ping/sig and then swap off again. She is always a dps loss otherwise.

Also your individual skill is leaving a TON to be desired, how are you getting hit by CAMU of all the paincage bosses. He sucks. You also keep missing your skills. Bruh. At least use a GOOD attempt to showcase your claim.

Anyways, CN and JP have done this already and Astral has been consistently better than SS Luna and similar to SSS Luna when they are same investment

[jaunty beacon]

bad taste, banned

[near dome]

Could crimson weave also be on the jan selection. For s ranks (cope)

[carmine reef]

To be fair lightning wasn't all S until 2 months ago

[stuck sphinx]

R2 empy

[thorn creek]

omfg

[shadow holly]

she wont be since that selector is up to kaleido

[jaunty beacon]

Aktshually.................................

3s empy

[digital moat]

ur a dawnborgir

[carmine reef]

Whel opinions disregarded

[stuck sphinx]

I’m your dawnborgir

[carmine reef]

[digital moat]

eat me

[stuck sphinx]

[near dome]

How long until then?

[jaunty beacon]

Oi ! I'm the one with rights here

[digital moat]

Actually I should eat you

[stuck sphinx]

[shadow holly]

what
ur asking about the selector on luna patch arent you
then probably like jan-feb

[digital moat]

[near dome]

Is lightning the best choice for next team to build tho? If it is I’ll do it I’m just unsure. Just saying I love crimson weave

[shadow holly]

you literally jsut build teams according to whoever you get
and its just taht completed phys + no lightning is worse than cope phys + decent lightning

[carmine reef]

I really hope cw leap makes her busted again because it would be so funny to see aether lose it

[glass bay]

f2p no rights

[polar wolf]

How big of a boost is lamia's signature weapon over her 5 star one compared to others?

[keen ginkgo]

hello guys
a question about alisa echo
if i have only 5* wp(which means no harmony)
does that means i should use another memory other than davinci for her ?

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-devil-may-cry-corte-epico-devil-may-cry5-especial-devil-may-cry5especial-gif-23533635

CW leap leak

[carmine reef]

Compared to others, less
But still huge

[near dome]

No other single unit is cool enough to go for anyway crimson weave here I come

[woven haven]

nah it won't happen

they need to sell new DPS anyways

[jaunty beacon]

dark affix on cw so she can bench lamia

[woven haven]

having CW retain best dps is just going to mean the new unit won't buff light that much

[visual topaz]

Cw 🚮

[thorn creek]

base signature itself is alright but you'd get to harmo with it which makes it big

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

its kuro design philosophy

[carmine reef]

That's exactly why i want it

You rationalize it so much in your mind

[cloud mural]

how to play S0 alisa

[carmine reef]

I would love to see you be totally wrong

[shadow holly]

you just dont field her

[woven haven]

i mean i'm not the one who has to deal with the consequences of it anyways

[cloud mural]

some things just have to be done

[woven haven]

i don't actually have a stake in it i'm just laughing regardless of the outcome

[carmine reef]

S0 vs SS0 alisa actually doesn't change that much for first two swaps

Full rotation is still doable

After that it falls apart

[thorn creek]

Still more impactful than her SS3💀

[keen ginkgo]

Philip II or Da Vinci for Alisa ?

[stuck sphinx]

Ss is mandatory for everybody anyways

[carmine reef]

Dv is better buff but doesn't apply to alisa herself

[cloud mural]

I don't have enough vouchers and I'd rather not brick using skulls

[woven haven]

if cw leap is only on par with balter leap lmao CW gets the short end of the stick while tank gets the new spotlight
if cw leap is broken its even funnier because it means despite making CW a voucher unit and practically free they really really need the CW skin money to sell

[carmine reef]

So decide based on that

[shadow holly]

4signa 4dv
if no harmo then rip
I'd prefer 2dv due to better uptime

and less dilution

[stuck sphinx]

It’s like a 9s cd right

[keen ginkgo]

yes no 6*
so Philip II is better in this case

[carmine reef]

Wut

[shadow holly]

[thorn creek]

[shadow holly]

mem guin

[velvet hedge]

Guinevere ★★★★★★

2 Piece Set

Heals for 10% more. Increases the Elemental DMG and Resistances of the healing target by 10% for 5s. Has a cooldown of 8 seconds.

4 Piece Set

A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP, healing allies in a 5m fan-shaped area for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Elemental ATK by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

HP

1528

CRIT

64

ATK

132

DEF

223

[carmine reef]

I cant with this

[stuck sphinx]

mem dv

[velvet hedge]

Da Vinci ★★★★★★

2 Piece Set

When QTE is triggered, the controlling character gains 10% ATK and 20% DEF for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4 Piece Set

When QTE is triggered, triggers another character's QTE. 8s cooldown. If there are 3 characters on the field, ATK is increased by 20%.

HP

1491

CRIT

66

ATK

135

DEF

218

[shadow holly]

8s cd on guin
ehhh
idk
like u still get it on every qte but there are 3 dead seconds without buff and its technically less than dv

[stuck sphinx]

10s on dv

[grand jay]

Is CN beta tomorrow?

[shadow holly]

but alisa wont get the buff on her rot

[stuck sphinx]

Alisa qte is 2s long

[keen ginkgo]

one give physical dmg and other gives atk, so im not sure if they are same

[grand jay]

No way is it not Yata

[woven haven]

uh tomorrow yes but its like midnight for me so that's still 30+ hours away

[grand jay]

Actually?

I thought it was Thursday

[woven haven]

its on the 2nd

no?

[grand jay]

Ohhhhh

[thorn creek]

both have about the same effect so the one with longer effect wins

thus 2 dav

[woven haven]

well maybe they do an early cuz no one cares for A rank until their affix is on S rank

[keen ginkgo]

yeah bcz it rests every time it triggers ..

[woven haven]

only difference between the buffs is when u have too much of one

like if you have too much elem/phys dmg bonus alr then atk is better

[shadow holly]

atk buff is less diluted so would result in more damage
you already get phys dmg buff from alisa amp class and qte buff, and leeu 2p on balter gives 7% phys bonus 3% atk
while you only get atk from alisa class so far
and on 2p leeu atk is much less than phys

idk about uptime

its not gonna be a significant difference for you

might as well just do 2dv to prepare for harmo in case you get her weapon

[keen ginkgo]

fair enough i think i'll go fo 2dav bcz the coldown reset

[thorn creek]

@shadow holly I think i accidentally took ur cub pull luck today #🚀・off-topic-lobby message

[shadow holly]

oh its fine i got shu on the first free pull lmao

[thorn creek]

[shadow holly]

zuo le is giga strong but i have stuff to save for

[thorn creek]

it all worked out

[rich ravine]

guys i have for 16 shards, do i get any or wait the restart?

[cloud mural]

so make it clear '' sry plz bear with me '', alisa is starter, 3 ping yellow for rosetta qte swap in balter do her stuff then rosetta then alisa hold basic then ping, then pings til she hits her whatever atk then ult?

[shadow holly]

big shame i could get 9s chaos in the end but still didtn have enough for 11 hell
cringe
surely bricking acc was worth it

[carmine reef]

Sounds fine to me

[ashen edge]

[pliant rose]

When is ice qu and fire wata coming out?

[shadow holly]

tomorrow

[carmine reef]

November, october

[woven haven]

back to back in a couple of months

[cloud mural]

[thorn creek]

october then november

[remote pier]

Zexous, are you online?

[carmine reef]

No

[remote pier]

Can I dm you a question?

[carmine reef]

Yes

[remote pier]

alrighty thx

[ashen edge]

outlier soon anyway who cares about it

[shadow holly]

but i wanted to get the sheet times at least once

[jaunty beacon]

moth or siren ?

[shadow holly]

moth

[jaunty beacon]

[shadow holly]

siren is uhh
my invest too bad for it

[ashen edge]

ss3 gated

[shadow holly]

😭

[ashen edge]

cuz hell 11 used fred

[glossy forge]

One tap ppc 1% trust

[frozen creek]

Future everything s+ gated

[ashen edge]

[remote pier]

💀

[shadow holly]

yea no way i can get 11 hell i wouldnt have enough dmg with slingshot
for 12 i needed full bike dash damage with early qtes

[frozen creek]

K whel

[glossy forge]

What whel, I'm nearly always 5%

[frozen creek]

[glossy forge]

Ain't got no patience to learn PPC rots

[jaunty beacon]

i hate dark, i'll just slack with lightning

[glossy forge]

[frozen creek]

Better than 95%

[ashen edge]

oh ye 11 moth is really somewhat tight even with r3 daren

moth hp has to be exact around x8 or lesser for an execution

[frozen creek]

[ashen edge]

if it x9 80% you will not kill it

trash boss

[glossy forge]

I think most day 1 players are in 5% anyways

[shadow holly]

actually funnily enough on my attempt where i took 13 i had cottie set on capri because its hypertuned so she finishes it off faster
and i had like 3 bars left after daren rot
so idk
guin would prob not be enough would still also need 6class capri while i onlyhad 3 and thats with already using 2 usbs today for chaos

[frozen creek]

Day 1 whales

I'm day 1 f2p stuck in 30-100 not skill issue

[shadow holly]

and idk if u know but i pulled ss daren cub to do chaos

[frozen creek]

Whale energy to massive in this channel I leave

[barren plank]

[ashen edge]

i pulled r3 to do 12s hell back then

[shadow holly]

at least that stillh ad a lot of longevity
i did this for the fkin last moth clear before its outlier

[ashen edge]

ye

[woven sable]

Says the biggest whel

[ashen edge]

too bad that we are gonna skipping 2 ppc rot

[inland tree]

whel

[ashen edge]

i wish alisa patch had 1 more week so i can at least get 9s on hell moth with fish

[frozen creek]

Says legend retain

[ashen edge]

the best week that ss could potentially get 1.89

[woven sable]

Im f2p

[ripe stag]

I swear

[shadow holly]

wtff

[ripe stag]

CS stage 14 voodoo is literally bugged

[woven sable]

It is

[barren plank]

It’s still doable tho

[ripe stag]

Bro didn't take damage past a certain HP bar and I was seeing double characters

[woven sable]

The player buff is applied to the boss instead lol

I almost got oneshot

[ripe stag]

Bro did not take damage for the past 12 seconds btw

[shadow holly]

the bug is smth else thats just skill issue smh

[ashen edge]

you heard it right
qu: 9/9/9/9(?)/10
shark: 6/7/7/7/8
moth: 6/6/7/7/9 (8 possibly)

[ripe stag]

Boss not taking damage for 12 seconds

Can't be skill issue

[ashen edge]

well its just theoretically on paper but i guess glb will never get 2nd god week

[ripe stag]

[ashen edge]

we go straight to 3 new bosses

[shadow holly]

what are these projected shark times with

[ripe stag]

Wait
That's why my damage felt so weak despite the buff ?

[ashen edge]

mostly with phys/light with 2 harmo

i did shark 8s hell

[ripe stag]

[ashen edge]

potentially 7s with instant?

idk i guess i never had a chance to do that anymore lol

[ripe stag]

Who needs harmo after Alisa ?

[cerulean grotto]

Cw/feral

[cerulean grotto]

Balter if ss3

[ashen edge]

we technically have another god budget is qu/shark/lamia

but lamia spawn time

not idea i would say

[cerulean grotto]

Btw in lamia patch, should I harmo my ss R1 Daren or ss R1 balter?

[shadow holly]

qu spawn time longer tbh
but kill faster yeah

[ripe stag]

First lamia

[cerulean grotto]

I know dumbass

[ripe stag]

Oh yea

[cerulean grotto]

[ripe stag]

Should I use da Vinci eins on Daren ?

Since s + sig

[ashen edge]

yes

[ripe stag]

[cerulean grotto]

You don't?

[ashen edge]

no reason to give her sig set if she at s ss0 so

[ripe stag]

I'm not getting her SS before wata and qu are SS0

[ashen edge]

just stick with dv eins

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

Ok I'll transfer Tenebrion's da Vinci build

[cerulean grotto]

Why does teneb have dv?

[ashen edge]

[cerulean grotto]

Ezra isn't cooking

[ripe stag]

Old build from when I used to think Tenebrion is bad af (newbie mistake)

[cerulean grotto]

Mf

He carried my ass until luna

[ripe stag]

Same here

[cerulean grotto]

Asstral could never

[ripe stag]

Astral carried me till rozen was built

[cerulean grotto]

I still hate astral

[velvet agate]

Okay but where is my echo schedule

[cerulean grotto]

The teleport gimmick on his dodge isn't great to play with

[velvet agate]

[river nymph]

[empty cargo]

What's the better team lamia teneb cappuccino with no Sig base s
Or Lamia teneb furry with SS 2 reso Cub

[shadow holly]

lamia xxi r2 furry then

[empty cargo]

Why xxi tho

[shadow holly]

teneb's only usage case is boss wz and thats if hes SS

sss xxi is better in literally everything else

[thorn creek]

cappuccino no sig base S is 💩

[shadow holly]

and litrearlly in everything is teneb isnt SS

[empty cargo]

What if I ss

[shadow holly]

DONT WTF

waste of skulls

[sonic citrus]

memory rework in qu shukra patch benefits xxi more than tenebrion.

[shadow holly]

permanent account damage

[visual topaz]

[velvet agate]

His ss will be ded in qu patch due to memory rework

[shadow holly]

also that yeah

[empty cargo]

Bro I'm not getting a dark tank until we get a gen3 one

[shadow holly]

buddy just get xxi

[empty cargo]

Bruh

[shadow holly]

and farm her shards to sss

shes literally an A rank

10pull on standard and shes yours

[empty cargo]

What does he uses then dv with Einsteina?

[empty cargo]

I have her just I don't wanna farm another a rank untill sss+ it takes so long

[shadow holly]

even if it means having an all around better dark tank? plus you dont need SSS+

[velvet agate]

He will shred less than 21 at that point

[empty cargo]

I'm asking what's the build post rework

[sonic citrus]

I literally said this

[shadow holly]

4dv 2eins prob if u run lamia with r2 furry on team

because you'd have 4guin on furry then 4dv on tank

[river nymph]

[empty cargo]

So Lamia is solo then

No rotation

Does that work

[velvet agate]

He wanted to spend 500 skulls and prob prefer waiting to farm another 500 skulls than sss 21

[shadow holly]

you dont have other choice

[empty cargo]

Now that you write that down that sounds bad but I thought that would be good since I will only get gen3

[velvet agate]

Just use 21 until you get daren from luna selector

[empty cargo]

What's the point then I won't have her Sig nor ss3

[shadow holly]

shes still mandatory for ionization team

[empty cargo]

Bruuuuuuuh

[shadow holly]

and shes still the best dark tank too

[empty cargo]

Even with that?

[velvet agate]

She will get her leap and her shard will be added to voucher shop

[shadow holly]

literally the only two chars who have ion affix is daren with leap and new lucia
new lucia cant stack it up by herself
she fully relies on daren to do it for her
no daren = no ionization team

[empty cargo]

What do I lose with that

[shadow holly]

uh
horrible performance in ion wz?

where you'd basically off-element

[empty cargo]

Does wz get more rewards or still only card currency

[shadow holly]

actually think affix wz has the dual modifier so you can still use lightning on it but its not gonna be good

[velvet agate]

Anyway i'm going to sleep now because i have work in 4 hrs, later

[shadow holly]

cya

[empty cargo]

Cause then imma just get like few less cards in a year for not having her which is like who cares

With the demotion in ion wz

Play on mobile

It's 10x easier

Personally I would say it's unplayable if you wanna play comp on controller

[shadow holly]

with controller its p much just about making binds that are comfortable for you and getting used to it

[empty cargo]

Or you can but you won't get food scores for a few weeks until you perfect it

[modest solar]

Your finger blocking half the screen is a no no

Hell nah

[empty cargo]

If you don't play on a Nokia 3310 your hands won't cover the screen

[steep timber]

Is PGR available on console or do they just have controller support

[modest solar]

It's a matter of getting the muscle memory for the controller buttons

Full controller support

[empty cargo]

Pgr has the worst controls on controller in history so that's not easy

[modest solar]

Xbox and ps controller

[modest solar]

Says who

[cerulean grotto]

It isn't supposed to be a controller game in the first place anyways

[steep timber]

Real struggle for phone is triggering QTEs bro i have to either do them during an animation or stop attacking and do them super quickly

[empty cargo]

You have much better reaction time and you can buffer much easier but orbing is horrible to the point that you just lose insane amount of time to get the right orb you want

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

thats literally just if ur not used to it

[empty cargo]

Anyone who tries pgr and any other game with controller support

[shadow holly]

@spiral merlin is a super good player on my server and he plays on controller im pretty sure

[river nymph]

[cloud steeple]

What a waiste,I was expecting they're gonna try harder

[modest solar]

I play on controller, it just took me a while of getting the muscle memory for it

[spiral merlin]

[empty cargo]

You have to learn street fighter combos to orb bruh

[modest solar]

But it's very doable

[spiral merlin]

Yes I play controller

[steep timber]

How do u ping on controller?

[river nymph]

hi

[empty cargo]

Multiple inputs for each ping

[spiral merlin]

hello

[empty cargo]

Since you have like 8 orbs on screen

[steep timber]

Do these like take a while or are they just complicated?

[modest solar]

Takes a while but it's doable

[modest solar]

It's just memorizing

[empty cargo]

Not complicated you just have to learn combos for each orb ping

[spiral merlin]

So true

[steep timber]

Thats not that bad if you play controller for a while you should learn

[empty cargo]

And learn to use them without thinking or looking at the controller

[remote pier]

there's a dalao that learn to play w/ his feet so...

[steep timber]

Without thinking or looking..? What u think about where to walk too with controller or 💀

This doesnt sound that bad

[empty cargo]

Bro what

Look at the controls then

[modest solar]

Lol no, I have button prompts on screen to remind me the orb location

[woven sable]

Mobile is slower than pc and controller

[steep timber]

Sure may be bad to get used to but just play the game and you should learn them, not like PGR is supposed to be played on console

[river nymph]

maybe for you

[steep timber]

Nintendo switch PGR guys

[empty cargo]

So you stop to read the prompt before pinging?

[spiral merlin]

I play with a switch pro controller and on steam deck so uhhhhh

[woven sable]

[woven haven]

affix wz is different cuz its on mixed zone node

Usually even affix can lose to better elements, and doing base element on affix zone is basically halving your score already, so at that point might as well play other node instead

[steep timber]

Wait i thought just xbox had support wtflip??

[woven haven]

[modest solar]

Only for the middle orbs, the first 4 orbs and last 2 orbs are easy to remember

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[modest solar]

I'm using ps controls layout

[empty cargo]

And you can do that while playing and doing orb dodge cancels?

[modest solar]

Yeah, I had to practise for it

[empty cargo]

Let me see it then

[modest solar]

Which one you want to see

[empty cargo]

How you play

[spiral merlin]

The good thing about controller is that you have easy access to everything without much movement unlike mobile

[shadow holly]

holy bro really thinks sunny has anything to get from lying here

[empty cargo]

How tf do you play on controller with claw holding?

[spiral merlin]

Mobile is just kinda mid in general for fast gameplay but I know there’s some people that are goated with it

[empty cargo]

You will still move your fingers

[spiral merlin]

It’s not as excessive as mobile

[empty cargo]

So you are just slow then?

[spiral merlin]

Huh

[river nymph]

[empty cargo]

I never had a problem with my fingers not arriving to the buttons

[spiral merlin]

Neither did I say that

[empty cargo]

Then what's the problem with finger movement

[modest solar]

#📨・meta-help message

I posted this way back

[spiral merlin]

You gotta do a lot of moving

But again some people are goated with mobile

[empty cargo]

I've been playing on mobile for comp since the start and I don't understand what you say

[spiral merlin]

Then you’ll be very used to it that’s fine

[visual topaz]

Chat am I cooked

[shadow holly]

what's annoying on mobile for super fast stuff is that you REALLY have to adjust your layout and use as many fingers as the same time as possible
because moving same fingerr from one button to another is just too slow

[river nymph]

not really if you have good button/hand position

[visual topaz]

2k diff

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[river nymph]

or long fingers

[spiral merlin]

[empty cargo]

I literally only use my thumb

[river nymph]

[modest solar]

Ok Mr.ipad enjoyer

[shadow holly]

tht means you've never ever done any actually tight PPC clears

[empty cargo]

What does that mean I can't do insta clears I don't have that invest

[spiral merlin]

I don’t like messing with my ui that much so that’s probably also why

[modest solar]

Same

[river nymph]

problem?

[spiral merlin]

[shadow holly]

it's not about instant kill
it's about good execution
even on a slow kill you can save a lot by being efficient and pressing buttons fast

[stuck sphinx]

Siren is pretty easy now

In terms of damage

[shadow holly]

ok SSS r2 feral haver
or is yours r3

[stuck sphinx]

Qu, etc.

[stuck sphinx]

I don’t have any r3

[shadow holly]

wtf

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1185498808499572766.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[modest solar]

No, more like me don't like phone gaming for pgr

[visual topaz]

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[modest solar]

My hands get in the way

[shadow holly]

oh wait did I promote
surely
hopefully

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

I only use mobile if I’m doing dailies or easy content

[modest solar]

Same, besides like wz and ppc

[shadow holly]

promoting with my cancer fire
so glad ppl in my bracket have no clue or desire to play ice

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[river nymph]

dark boss next

[stuck sphinx]

I demote on both acc

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

time to cook selena and daren harmo

[stuck sphinx]

[river nymph]

and fluc should be lower since these past scores were trash

[spiral merlin]

High fluc + bears everywhere 💀

Never had it been more kurover

[cerulean grotto]

Rip to whoever was 3rd in leader and didn't mald

I onetapped in last 8 minutes

The most funny thing is that

[ashen edge]

[cerulean grotto]

Another guild member of mine onetapped too

But obv he was first coz sss characters

[rich ravine]

any recommendations on what to get before it restarts? or just keep em for now?

[cerulean grotto]

How tf do you have less honor levels than me?

💀💀

[paper bone]

I have 84

[shadow holly]

Alisa to SS, Kaleido to SS
both needed

[woven sable]

Idk pick a amp to get to sss

[shadow holly]

he's new so most likely doesn't even have the required chars at ss

[empty cargo]

How much faster are the top guys

[rich ravine]

im indeed new, lvl 77

[paper bone]

WAIT

[empty cargo]

I don't know how much faster I could be with a cw half rotation

[paper bone]

I DIDNT DO MY WARZONE AGAIN

IM IN ELITE

[spiral merlin]

💀

[paper bone]

WAIT

[shadow holly]

your orb cancels are super slow and you took a long time on dash

[woven sable]

[rich ravine]

and have 15 of these, dont they add new constructs to this battlepass shard selection?

[restive grove]

i reasonably slacc wz on my asia acc :thumbb:

[shadow holly]

they do but existing shard selectors don't get updated

[empty cargo]

So much faster is it in time I want numbers

[woven sable]

Well ur doing a dash during first rotation and also dodged an extra time on the 2nd rotation

[rich ravine]

so im guessing i just get x15 rosetta

[shadow holly]

like ok here I think this siren clear of mine is pretty fast although could be better
#📨・meta-help message

[empty cargo]

I just wanted to see how quick I am not beat the dummy to death

[woven sable]

Well im telling u where you are doing extra actions => slow

[shadow holly]

https://youtu.be/fy2CtAAEHbY?si=eDifqsoRhqXuUvHO
and here is a hell Hamlet run I did on mobile
def much faster than your execution

[rich ravine]

yes no?

[woven sable]

Dbl slam strats

[shadow holly]

yes there is no better choice from the bp shard selectors for now

[spiral merlin]

Yeah get rose to sss

[shadow holly]

broke invest + pre harmo

[woven sable]

Im depressed when i need to do slam

[visual topaz]

https://youtu.be/p7q2IzFt0mI

[rich ravine]

sure, the super copium thing is that i have legit no pyshical carry for rosetta XD

[shadow holly]

damn ew took out the big guns

[woven sable]

Dshitter smh

[winter scarab]

Is this score good (i don't have stigmata)

[spiral merlin]

[visual topaz]

imagine not doing it

couldn't be me

[carmine reef]

on what, redliv?

[woven sable]

[winter scarab]

Yea

[woven sable]

Ew r1 soon

[carmine reef]

i think that's a decent score for missing balter yeah

[visual topaz]

forever R3

i'm invest gated

[winter scarab]

No stigmata is sad

[woven sable]

Whos higher than u? Jerm and esussy?

[visual topaz]

between SSS and S+ invest there had been 10k gap

[shadow holly]

still rly depends on ur team invest
Alisa should be able to clear it much faster than that but we do t know what ur team looks like

[visual topaz]

Izanami and Exempt both S+ with 5x3 teams harmo

[winter scarab]

She's still s and missing some reso

[woven sable]

Oh eu

[visual topaz]

NA is irrelevant for ppc ranking smh

[carmine reef]

alisa is so weakge though

[visual topaz]

but prolly you shuen esus jere in NA

tho idk how much harmo on top accounts

[stiff burrow]

[steep timber]

Are there any memories that arent in event shops that are obtainable from 6* memory shards? Or can I just use them to speed up my memory grinding

[visual topaz]

nope

[carmine reef]

no

[stiff burrow]

I really wanna get off Alisa asap tho ngl

[shadow holly]

no
mem shards are pretty useless to buy

[woven sable]

Nah im low skill low score :(

[carmine reef]

gooner

[visual topaz]

all 6* mem are always in event shop with a better convertion rates than exhcnaging with 6* mem shards

[winter scarab]

Ss scire or sss no22

[stiff burrow]

[steep timber]

I got them from a lot of different sources

(Mainly mentor thing)

[shadow holly]

oh yeah that's ass you'd probably score better with off element lmao
but yeah decent
don't worry too much

[stiff burrow]

I meant when I switch to her during rotations

[steep timber]

So i can just use them to get a memory i want?

[stiff burrow]

What does ss Alisa do again

[shadow holly]

make her playable

[carmine reef]

mentor is 5* shards

[shadow holly]

[stiff burrow]

What exactly

[winter scarab]

Tried cw but i got lower score

[winter scarab]

?

[shadow holly]

scire is better by default even at base s

[steep timber]

You can get both, qualification assessment has missions that give 6* memory shards

[carmine reef]

extra 3p on swap

and something else idr

[winter scarab]

Huh?, i remember asking here a month ago and someone said sss no22

[carmine reef]

but i think i said earlier like

S>SS really doesn't change anything about her playability until 3rd swap

[orchid owl]

the stand attacks if you swap out

[carmine reef]

you were misinfo'd, nobody would say that unless they were dumb

[shadow holly]

idk who said that but it's literally
S Scire 15% shred 12s dur
XXI 10% shred lower dur

[carmine reef]

? this is in her base kit

[winter scarab]

Maybe miku misinfoed me

[shadow holly]

[carmine reef]

honestly

that does sound like something miku would say

[woven sable]

Anything wrong = blame miku

[winter scarab]

I would feel dumb if he's the one i believed

[carmine reef]

nah tbh there is a specific brand of miku misinfo

can't attribute everything to her

[winter scarab]

But he wasn't the one who said it

[carmine reef]

but the 21 thing is believable

[orchid owl]

nvm
she gets more damage with SS when the zone is active
and SS3 the stand deals more damage when you swap out

[carmine reef]

"skip scire, SSS 21 better "

i can see it in my mind's eye with miku nametag above it

[orchid owl]

[winter scarab]

Lol

[orchid owl]

who says that

[woven sable]

Skip fish

[winter scarab]

That's too far

[orchid owl]

I don't have scire or capri and my luna is S
my dark team is underperforming bc all I got is rozen and 21

[winter scarab]

Even if lamia isn't meta I would still get her

[carmine reef]

if it makes you feel better

[winter scarab]

Tbh anything better than luna

[carmine reef]

just getting scire and capri would still mean your dark is underperforming

[winter scarab]

I see

[carmine reef]

dark team copege until ranks

[winter scarab]

So s capri better than sss rozan?

[carmine reef]

no

i'm saying the opposite

[winter scarab]

Ik

[carmine reef]

like even if you got S daren and S capri, your team would still be underperforming

[winter scarab]

But i just want to play capri

[carmine reef]

S daren is better than 21 as qte bot, but still bad as a character

S capri is just straight up worse

[winter scarab]

Do i switch to rozan in lamia rot?

[carmine reef]

absolutely not

you don't switch to rozen even with luna

[winter scarab]

So i need to cope with the orb consumption

[carmine reef]

yes

[winter scarab]

[carmine reef]

dark team is suffering

unless whel

[winter scarab]

Gonna manage somehow

[mortal mango]

how do i determine which ults take time and which don't

[carmine reef]

are you talking about timestop

you can just look at the timer