📨・meta-help

[wraith pendant]

what the flying fook i aint got no more to account for that

[glass bay]

Ss3?

[wraith pendant]

yes

[velvet agate]

[glass bay]

Whel

[carmine reef]

if you're wondering about awakening, nothing changes

awakening is permanent, which is why fake ht works

[carmine mesa]

Why would you want to remove the HT memories from Scire, you still want her spin to win with Lamia.

[wraith pendant]

what is fake hypertoon

[carmine reef]

use an already fully hypertuned set from a different character to unlock infinitas awakening

[wraith pendant]

im going to replace condelina with einsteiner

[carmine reef]

all you have to do is change resonances to the character you want to fake ht on

[carmine mesa]

Nice.
Does the color select also remain?

[carmine reef]

ofc

[velvet agate]

but my 2% edb

[wraith pendant]

wait awaken infinitas can be attributed to memories alone??

[carmine reef]

well like

you still need to reach 6.5k bp

but as far as memories go the only part that's bound to specific characters is the resonance

hypertune applies to whoever equips it

[remote pier]

[sage crest]

How to "Complete School work upgrades"?

[carmine reef]

do a run with that school to level it up

x5

[wraith pendant]

is that an enemy debuff?

the dark radiation thing

or just a damage?

[zenith thorn]

unit buff

elem buff

[quartz dove]

-fuck seraphine

[carmine reef]

keep it in ur pants

[zenith thorn]

nah

[quartz dove]

Absolute -cock memo set

[woven haven]

its 10% dark dmg bonus

20% if sss

[obtuse sapphire]

What teams i can par with weave?

Or should i get another character for her

[zenith thorn]

lux arclight

[wraith pendant]

aight here's my epikarenina plan
which is better
4 harmo dv or 4 harmo bathlon?
im also keeping 4 boon

[carmine reef]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qSNXJUmPgDmLs7o6RdC23EApb6NNSWXpecLDHhoZSBg/edit?usp=sharing

[glass bay]

Chat

Pgr events > wuwa events?

[carmine reef]

4bath

[wraith pendant]

einsteiner and seraphine is on serena

[wraith pendant]

aigh

[quartz dove]

Harmo karenina already ?

[wraith pendant]

not yet i am about to

[obtuse sapphire]

Thankie

[quartz dove]

Man i swear people have like 3000 skull saved

[wraith pendant]

im short on flashbang when will be the next reset? 4 short

[carmine reef]

you never know, maybe they just made bad decisions

[carmine reef]

monday

[velvet agate]

Do you make this

[carmine reef]

yeah

[wraith pendant]

how much can we get per reset on flashbangs?

[glass bay]

Yeeer

Finally

[carmine reef]

if you have suggestions to improve it you can dm me

[glass bay]

Time to harmo cw

[remote pier]

whel

[velvet agate]

I need you to replace sophia with other amp because sophia is bad in any way for qte bot

[glass bay]

Who

[remote pier]

#SophiaDidNothingWrong

[velvet agate]

[carmine reef]

i did write that

If you lack Empyrea, use any other Amplifier instead.

[velvet agate]

just remove her

[carmine reef]

[glass bay]

I'm F2p pls

[barren plank]

New Sophia and Changyu when

[glass bay]

I will do stream for all

[carmine reef]

sophia new fire attacker

[glass bay]

Unlike @quartz dove

[carmine reef]

down with lucia

[remote pier]

[quartz dove]

Wdym

[glass bay]

U whel

[quartz dove]

There is nothing to see

[glass bay]

Yea nth to see coz we know ur whel

[visual topaz]

[remote pier]

Nothing to see (in wallet)?

[velvet agate]

[carmine reef]

nothing to see (in topup shop) (they're all bought out)

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

We dont need to verify the obvious

[quartz dove]

[visual topaz]

[velvet agate]

Isn't it your sleeping time rn

[remote pier]

Do you sleep Ewlao?

[crimson hill]

What's sleep?

[wraith pendant]

How required is ayla fat sig weapon?

[velvet agate]

[crimson hill]

2 or 3 reso on it is nice kekw

[rocky valley]

[remote pier]

harmo too nya

[velvet agate]

Harmo for wat

[carmine reef]

if r0 then i think kaleido is one of the rare cases where cub is more impactful than sig

but if you can afford wep reso then

[velvet agate]

^this. Until qu comes

[remote pier]

222 nya

[wraith pendant]

my ayla fat is only SS nothing else

[quartz dove]

Cub vs sig discussion

[carmine reef]

my ayla is 5* and no cub either

[remote pier]

The discussion already ended when Qu debut

[carmine reef]

my ice is suffering

[glass bay]

Btw do u guys know wtf deep red warzone is?

[crimson hill]

That is only true before harmo

[glass bay]

Someone in rex server telling me about this bs

[carmine reef]

but who's gonna be harmoing kaleido at this point

[glass bay]

Anyone?

[remote pier]

prob where the whels farm the f2ps

[glass bay]

They must be high

[remote pier]

their rc charges are pretty high

[spiral merlin]

It’s deep blue wz 2

[glass bay]

I don't even kmow if there's a temporary event like that

Wtf is deep blue wz

[remote pier]

deep blue best mode ever

[spiral merlin]

[glass bay]

Huh?

[wraith pendant]

in respect to qu , what would be a good investment now for ice?
i only have SS ayla fat
SSS qilin + sig(lost 80%)

[glass bay]

What is this mode now?

[carmine reef]

the only thing that would help qu that you could do at this point is SSS ayla for better amp buff

but considering all other teams i think that's not a wise investment

[wraith pendant]

i aint got no resources for that

[carmine reef]

yeah so like

nothing is your answer

[wraith pendant]

aight

guess ice is set

[velvet agate]

what if i'm f2p

[carmine reef]

choke

[velvet agate]

[wraith pendant]

just to be sure her sig is not required right?

ayla fat i mean

[carmine reef]

uhh i mean...

depends what you consider required

[remote pier]

fei and f2p in the same sentence

[wraith pendant]

in respect to qu

[quartz dove]

What if im f2p

[glass bay]

What did u say?

[carmine reef]

amp reso is useful if you plan on spending enough to do that

and i guess the harmo would be nice for qu

it's more just an issue of whether it fits into your priorities or not

[quartz dove]

Is there any chara that already op at s0+5*

[carmine reef]

op at their role sure

[wraith pendant]

personally i think alpha electric

[crimson hill]

Sophia. She doesnt get any stronger past that kekw

[carmine reef]

s0 5* alisa is pretty op qte bot

[carmine reef]

unfortunately this is a really bad take lol

[spiral merlin]

You could argue wanshi is a op tank for solo qu at s0

[wraith pendant]

why? does she not one shot

[quartz dove]

So wansht only need s0 ?

[spiral merlin]

You’ll sss him anyway

Idk why you’re asking

[carmine reef]

first of all no attacker will be op at s0 since their only job is to do dmg and no s unit deals dmg
second of all s cw also sucks ass she's missing half her gauge and also missing qte trigger

[quartz dove]

I have lower balter invest than u

[carmine reef]

third of all you're lucky aether isn't here

[quartz dove]

[carmine reef]

he would be roasting you so hard

[spiral merlin]

Um I’m f2p

Look

I just got really really lucky

[wraith pendant]

ah oof i never got to experience her on s0, mb thought she op as hell

[crimson hill]

Stop taking screenie of your alt account

[carmine reef]

spend less time in casual circles

[spiral merlin]

[wraith pendant]

what is casul circle

[quartz dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1266926666236825671/image.png?ex=66a6ece7&is=66a59b67&hm=1d4133076899de3c7fca234b9a980443757dbb42c4d1f182340eb02c2b3d7056&

[carmine reef]

i mean that casuals all think cw is op

[wraith pendant]

ah i mean she has no contender at the moment right?

[quartz dove]

[carmine reef]

phys is stronger than lightning rn

[quartz dove]

[carmine reef]

not my phys tho

[woven haven]

i mean sure in lightning
but lightning is also dead

like with how options are a thing now in wz and onslaught ppc

if people see a chance to skip lightning content they will

onslaught ppc is 3 stages but u only need 2

[paper bone]

This sounds familiar

[woven haven]

if the third stage is lightning you can guarantee no one is doing it

[wraith pendant]

we can choose now who we can fight?

[paper bone]

Light dark ice

Light is worse rhan dark right

[woven haven]

if lightning shows up in mixed wz against ice fire void phys its gone

no one will ever pick lightning there

only when its forced lightning node will people bother

[carmine reef]

he's talking about CN content because aether is a boomer and will never adjust to talk about global

[woven haven]

that’s why its easy to crown CW as worst main dps in CN rn

[dreamy palm]

does anyone have a new player guide they recommend, decided to download pgr after playing wuwa

[woven haven]

to an extent

[paper bone]

#1220163911723253760

Uhh

[woven haven]

you only use cw for lightning content but the usage of lightning content has been shrinking greatly

[paper bone]

everything in the faq has what u need

[woven haven]

and you know no one would really use a washed up dps like cw with slow moveset

[paper bone]

is it just cw and flare holding it back

[woven haven]

ya

[paper bone]

Makes sense

[woven haven]

we need new lightning tank as dps

[quartz dove]

Dark situation is worse than light cus light still have flare

[carmine reef]

huh

[paper bone]

Daren no off field shred?

[quartz dove]

Dark have full gen 2

[paper bone]

I mean its capri

[pine slate]

Glad I skipped cw

[woven haven]

cuz i have no hope that cw leap will fix anything

Balter leap did barely anything for physical team lmao

[wraith pendant]

ooh yeah i forgot , i have all amplifiers on SS except for 21 and serena, how required are they on SS? based on the fact that they are at most will be a qte bot since the DPS on their teams will be expected to be solo carry

[woven haven]

still catherine slave

[spiral merlin]

Ss3 privilege

[woven haven]

21 SS = swap no qte bot

[carmine reef]

bruh

this why i said to spend less time with casuals

[paper bone]

leap just sounds like give some affix proc and faster rot

[quartz dove]

Qte bot feral aaaahh

[carmine reef]

why are you assuming SS feral is qte bot

[quartz dove]

Good old day

[woven haven]

What the -fuck is this guy thinking that amps are qte bots

[paper bone]

every amp should be ss if not sss

[quartz dove]

Newbie

[paper bone]

And no dps has ever solo carried when they had a team

[woven haven]

that’s just rule number 1 of PGR don’t solo its garbage unless there’s reallllllly no option

[wraith pendant]

i dont really have any source of informations aside from my wors decisions

[carmine reef]

LMAO

at least you're honest

feral is not a qte bot at SS she's sub dps

and you should never be expecting a dps to solo carry

[quartz dove]

At least this guy hes making mistake its already amazing start

[carmine reef]

if your dps has to solo carry your team is super dysfunctional

[quartz dove]

So u say pre wansht ice in cn is dysfunctional

[carmine reef]

sometimes that might just be how it is in the game balance but usually not

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

there are only 2 acceptable solo teams

CW pre-feral
Qu pre-Wanshi

[carmine reef]

yes

[paper bone]

Veritas pre garnet

[carmine reef]

ice pre wanshi is super dysfunctional

[paper bone]

alpha pre rose

[woven haven]

everything else is hot garbage

and basically tanking your score for no reason other than “i don’t wanna learn swap”

[quartz dove]

I heard solo lamia is insane since lamia is insane

[paper bone]

yall remember when wz used to have wave rng

[woven haven]

the entire game is swap based

[quartz dove]

Fck amp

[paper bone]

amp making me learn swap 🚮

[quartz dove]

[spiral merlin]

My favourite part is balter soloing 66% of waves this wz according to snazz

[quartz dove]

Fluctuatiin

It make sense

[woven haven]

Amplifier class’s entire purpose: “swap to get buff”
Global server: “QTE BOT SOLO RAHHHHHHHHHHHH”

[pine slate]

I should have balter more on field too then

Earlier waves or later waves

[wraith pendant]

hold on ill show my team to provide contexts.
the reason why i accustomed myself to think that they are qte bots is because my available units simply will induce dps loss when i swap

currently the only teams that i can actually rotate to fuinction is ICE and PHY

[spiral merlin]

Earlier waves

[woven haven]

this is why alisa was a mistake

[visual topaz]

I'm getting harassed by mosquitoes

[carmine reef]

you showed me 3 teams of which 2 should be swapping and arguably 3 if your capri is competent

[visual topaz]

It's past 3 am

[spiral merlin]

But snazz got sss balter so it’s not a blind example to follow

[carmine reef]

oh wait

i didn't open up the whole picture

[paper bone]

that dark looks so cope

[wraith pendant]

yeah that would be the ice and phys , i swap play there since it's functioning

[paper bone]

fire is aight

[carmine reef]

?? all your teams should be swapping @wraith pendant

[paper bone]

you still swap on all of them

[frozen creek]

[paper bone]

fire is fine, u alternate empy hyper
Light is fine u swap from feral to cw

ice is fine

[remote pier]

did you kiss them good night?

[paper bone]

and phys is fine

[carmine reef]

the only weird case is your dark but depending on rank you'd still swap

[quartz dove]

[paper bone]

I’d still swap on that dark

[carmine reef]

bc solo daren and solo capri are reaaaaaaaally bad

[frozen creek]

It's S feral so unplayable

[vapid glade]

Closes eyes*
Ear: "Bzzzzzzzz"

[paper bone]

I mean

[wraith pendant]

i..dont know if that would really be a good idea, the down time swapping them will account to huge amounts of time lost withouit any of the swapped characters dealing any substatntial damage at all (excpt ice and phys)

[glass bay]

I kiss u goodnight

[quartz dove]

S feral not good

[frozen creek]

Also switch capriccio to a well built astral

[carmine reef]

????????? what down time swapping?? compared to downtime of BASIC ATTACKING on solo??

[frozen creek]

Or you can just wait for next patch

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397610633790750733/1249894165693599755/image0.gif

[glass bay]

[carmine reef]

do you really think daren basic attack is more damage than swapping to capri

[paper bone]

bro thinks u basic attack for orbs

[pine slate]

He ain't swapping off cw with that feral invest

[carmine reef]

his earlier question was about SS feral anyway

what the white dazzal

[pine slate]

Ye ss feral can swap

[wraith pendant]

now that youve said it....damn i feel ret3dednow

[carmine reef]

LOL

[pine slate]

Wouldn't swap to s 5* feral if cw is ss sig

[paper bone]

oh thats his feral inves?

i thought sm said he had ss0 mb

[carmine reef]

cause he asked about SS

he said "is it worth to SS amps since they're all still qte bots anyway"

[paper bone]

mb chat :really:

[remote pier]

why pull for amps when they are qte bots

[cursive junco]

as a new player should i pull on anniversary banner for someone, or just ignore that and try to pull on beginner banner 1st and then get whatever i can to do a team with the one character i got?

[paper bone]

not anniv

[manic lantern]

I'm just investing into my decks at the weakest link so I can rotate. Solo is boring

[carmine reef]

no unless you can still have enough to afford lamia next patch

[paper bone]

do I solo lamia if daren is ss3 r1

[carmine reef]

ofc not

[woven haven]

oh my god we have a based person finally

[carmine reef]

damn whels...

[woven haven]

a shining beacon among the sea of infidels…

[paper bone]

Aight maybe I’ll just play ss3 r1 daren, ss r1 lamia, and ss 5 capri

[quartz dove]

Actual feral qte bot moment

[woven haven]

[cursive junco]

why should i get her?

[carmine reef]

ss 5 capris rise up

[manic lantern]

yes i'm quite snobby.

[quartz dove]

Where is sss capri cw coating guy ?

[pine slate]

I dislike playing solo cw but I'm getting higher scores with it for some reason

[carmine reef]

because you should get every single new unit because they're all required

[paper bone]

idk

[carmine reef]

and new units will always be better than old units

[woven haven]

not playing well smh

[pine slate]

Bro how tf does lightning swap work

[paper bone]

[pine slate]

Like
When do I swap to feral

[shadow holly]

just press buttons

[cursive junco]

i mean i heard that i can still clear anything with older units too and it's okey to go for them

[manic lantern]

worst experience in PGR was starting out, feral no21 being my first 5* and coping without ultimate and sig.

[remote pier]

lightning don't swap

[paper bone]

after 2 or 2.5 rot on cw no?

[carmine reef]

not true at all for competitive content

[frozen creek]

Have cw at a higher rank and don't swap

[carmine reef]

if you're a casual then sure do whatever you want

but you will struggle with any endgame content

[shadow holly]

u can clear but not everything
also scores gonna be ass

the new regular clash reflection mode is NOT doable with old chars
and a new mine in Norman that will get added relatively soon

[manic lantern]

not like you have a choice if your new

[quartz dove]

Wait u cant do cr with old chara ?

[manic lantern]

be happy if you get one good unit for each element in norman

[paper bone]

If ur new u dont have access to cr

[carmine reef]

i mean he's asking because he doesn't want to pull lamia. skipping lamia would definitely be a choice of all time

[quartz dove]

Who skip fish ?

[carmine reef]

you can't even do CR with the weaker meta teams rn

[cursive junco]

i don't even know who is lamia

[manic lantern]

oof lamia skip 🧱

[quartz dove]

https://tenor.com/view/lamia-lamia-pgr-gif-2151191760868905918

[shadow holly]

I mean like good fkin luck lmao not gonna have enough DPS
need proper gen2 teams
with sigs too, at least the important ones
smth like fire would even need at least DLT on empy

[paper bone]

Bbg lamia

[carmine reef]

at average invest at least

[paper bone]

solo cw cr felt bad

[quartz dove]

Im tempted to test it with my cope ice next rotation

[paper bone]

Esp with this environment

[quartz dove]

Just swap

[frozen creek]

I killed lilith with changyu

[carmine reef]

k whel

[shadow holly]

I tried CR with 212 000 fire and couldn't finish fushen in under 2m

[paper bone]

Nah its called solo for a reason

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-paranoia-hello-street-cat-cat-eating-gif-12431421677323781872

[manic lantern]

Got to 12/14

with phys, no sigs.

[wraith pendant]

based on the rewards on clash refelction we can harmo once per month no?

[frozen creek]

Possible if you were using 444 333

[quartz dove]

I mean i dont see point of solo cw unless ur team is like. 422 300

[carmine reef]

from only CR you can do it once a month or twice if you spend some skulls/vouchers to cover the last little bit

[shadow holly]

ok babygirl but not everyone has your invest

[paper bone]

222 322

[carmine reef]

since each CR cycle is just barely below enough for one harmo

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-street-cat-spooked-scared-scared-cat-cat-scared-gif-15511254635072448780

[paper bone]

21

[wraith pendant]

wait what are those numberS?

[paper bone]

87.5%

[paper bone]

Investment

[quartz dove]

Ok calm the -fuck down with the flexing poseidon

[cursive junco]

so powercreep is that big compared to other games?

[frozen creek]

K reso whel

[quartz dove]

Nuclear level

[carmine reef]

first 3 numbers is rank of character (1=S, 2=SS, etc)
second 3 numbers are reso of weapon (0=no reso, 1=1 reso, 5=5* wep)

[shadow holly]

it's big but slow

[wraith pendant]

422 300 <-- what that

[frozen creek]

444 333 = lorian invest

[manic lantern]

@cursive junco new 5* is like once per 2-3 months, some units lasted like 2 years now.

[paper bone]

4 = sss+
3.2 = sss6
3.1 = sss3
3 = sss
2.1 = ss3
2 = ss
1.1 = s5
1 = s0

Then the following numbers
3 = triple reso sig
2 = double reso sig
1 = single reso sig
0 = no reso sig
5 = five star weapon

[spiral merlin]

True

[carmine reef]

i see people using .3 instead of .1 for ss3

[manic lantern]

idk, how long rosetta lasted?

[paper bone]

Its whatevr same thing

[frozen creek]

If its not 4 3 it's bricked

[quartz dove]

Old unit is like non arc weapon in elden gen 2 is swift slash backhand blade with 60 arcane

[paper bone]

u get the point

[wraith pendant]

since time immemorial

[paper bone]

2.5 years

[cursive junco]

so i can get a tier characters and still chill with content?

[paper bone]

its been around that since rose release

[carmine reef]

holy crap

[frozen creek]

Yeah .3 and .6 are alternatives to .1 and .2

[paper bone]

plume is basically that old too btw

[carmine reef]

if you care at all about hard content no

[frozen creek]

But I'm f2p so I don't use them

[spiral merlin]

I do .3 instinctively and I have to realise my mistake because apparently not everyone thinks .3 is how it should be presented (it is)

[shadow holly]

why bother only getting specific ones if you can get every single one

because you can
even f2p

[quartz dove]

Dont pressure him too much

[frozen creek]

But cw skin gacha

[carmine reef]

conversely i was really confused when i saw .1 lol

[frozen creek]

[shadow holly]

I'm not pressuring just want to understand how ppl think

[spiral merlin]

.3 just makes sense

[paper bone]

Skip hyperreal and balter for balter skin gacha

[carmine reef]

i saw someone write 3.1 and i thought they were just giving extra details and telling us they were SSS1 for no reason

[shadow holly]

but yeah sure a ton of ppl play whatever and play the game casually

[frozen creek]

Yeah but the gacha has the character in it

Surely

[paper bone]

I mean it HAS to right

[pine slate]

Snazz got 2.8m with no harmo lightning team

[manic lantern]

If you join discord, your not a casual gamer

[paper bone]

Snazz is snazz

[spiral merlin]

sss1 is a huge difference trust

[carmine reef]

but his lightning is like 2 reso each isn't it

[cursive junco]

idk i literally play for like 2h so i don't know anything, just watched 30min yt guide on pgr and got that wholesome wiki

[quartz dove]

How close ur rose to s+ ?

[cursive junco]

compared to hi3 meta was ass

[spiral merlin]

Like 100 shards away or something dumb I haven’t checked

[manic lantern]

@cursive junco This game is a slow burn, just take your time and enjoy it. The story, music and characters are amazing.

[quartz dove]

Im somewhat close

[paper bone]

U guys havent experienced hero cantare

[quartz dove]

But idk

[spiral merlin]

I haven’t used vouchers on rose shards since I got sss and I can’t remember if I used any bp shards

[stuck sphinx]

i havent used a single voucher on rose

[frozen creek]

Sss 🐳

[cursive junco]

i can loose some black cards income if i don't get meta characters and i'm fine with this, mostly i want to just enjoy the game and have fun

[frozen creek]

Cause you gacha s+

[carmine reef]

i think at current pace i'll have sss rosetta right before hanying comes out

[paper bone]

bruj i remember getting rose from standard thrice

[stuck sphinx]

i dont backpull unlike you whels

[manic lantern]

@cursive junco Your new, your going to lose stuff no matter what.

[spiral merlin]

I used a combination of vouchers and shards to begin with but my rose currently sss0

[cursive junco]

i'm just curious about how powercreep looks here compared to other games

[paper bone]

Thats the 2nd time u used your instead of youre

[manic lantern]

@cursive junco Just make sure you do PPC and Warzone, you can do weeklies by just killing a lv1 unit.

[frozen creek]

Better than other games cause there's no bs 5050 and you can get every meta unit as an f2p if you use 1% of your brain

[quartz dove]

How much time do i have before global hanying ?

[paper bone]

i feel attacked after just finishing my senior eng summer classes

[carmine reef]

there are 5 (soon to be more) teams with 3 rigid roles each, meaning a total of (currently) 15 meta units
when a new unit comes it, it powercreeps the unit in that same role HARD
but since there are 15 total meta roles, each given unit has a decent amount of time to stay relevant

[frozen creek]

3 years and 2 weeks

[paper bone]

Next jan ish

[quartz dove]

[manic lantern]

Power creep in this game is pretty good, it's very high, but also since even f2p can get every unit, and the game focus on a far smaller unit roster. Units last quite a long while.

[paper bone]

maybe by cn’s 5th anniv

[carmine reef]

hanying is not jan

[spiral merlin]

More like march

[carmine reef]

jan is luna

hanying is march

[paper bone]

Qtf

how long are these patches jesus

[pine slate]

Once every 1-2 years

[carmine reef]

on avg one week shorter than cn patches

[spiral merlin]

But once garnet gets added to bp then rose shards come to a halt already

[cursive junco]

sounds easy

[quartz dove]

Bro i litteraly wont get rose s+ till luna patch

This is tragic beyond believe

[pine slate]

Fkin whel

[spiral merlin]

That’s why I’m wondering if it’s even worth

[cursive junco]

and pity is so much better than other games, i heard that pgr is super f2p friendly

[carmine reef]

that's true compared to other games

[frozen creek]

60 pity and 100% on character debut yes

[pine slate]

Depends on how u look at it

[manic lantern]

it's not as f2p friendly as many other gachas like brown dust 2 or blue archive.

[quartz dove]

There is a catch its amazing if ur realistic with urself

[carmine reef]

pgr has weapons and cubs but other games have that stuff too and even harder to pull

[frozen creek]

This game is still a gacha and you will 100% struggle against spenders

[manic lantern]

compared to hoyo tho? Absolutely.

[pine slate]

Pgr definitely forces u to spend if u want ur account to perform well

[carmine reef]

but pgr is also competitive content and other gachas don't always have that

so pgr might be more f2p friendly to clear pve content but you're also being pitted against whels in leaderboard content

[cursive junco]

well i didn't play too much gacha games, i dropped genshin and i'm playing wuwa with hsr so gacha here is still better

[carmine reef]

yeah compared to those pgr is miles better

[manic lantern]

both wuwa and hsr are far stingier

[quartz dove]

Well yeah lunite in wuwa make pgr whel look poor

[carmine reef]

hsr is hoyo's most generous title

[shadow holly]

smh wuwa discussion MOOODS

[carmine reef]

which means it's still far below pgr

[paper bone]

pgr’s monetization feels like when a persona game releases dlc

like this content should be part of the game but u monetize it cuz yknow people need it

[manic lantern]

but that's due to them well... HSR prints units like the american money print. WuWa ain't that far behind with 2 units per 1.5 months. PGR on the other hand only has one new 5* every 2-3 months

[cursive junco]

but you still need to spend more on characters than in genshin because you got 2 characters per patch

[frozen creek]

200 dollars for one wuwa 5050

[cursive junco]

and you get less currency for character

[spiral merlin]

Lunite more expensive and you can get -fucked by 50/50 great game

[shadow holly]

[manic lantern]

hsr chars sorta suck too

[paper bone]

Nah its literally so expensive in cad

[manic lantern]

it's a turn based, game, their easy to print, and the story is really starting to suffer due to the amount of units in it already.

[paper bone]

spent half my shift’s pay for s0r1 changli

[cursive junco]

meanwhile me getting changli weapon on 7 pity lol

[quartz dove]

Ok u basically ger rose s+ before in wata patch or dont bother

[quartz dove]

GTFO

[paper bone]

I early’d my changli but not her weap

[spiral merlin]

Id much prefer to sit here and let everyone else lose their money to terrible gacha systems than do it myself

[frozen creek]

Stop whaling and you'll get lucky too

[quartz dove]

IM 60 PITY IN NO WEAPON

[paper bone]

think it was around 20-30 pulls?

[manic lantern]

Cant... Changli too hot

[cursive junco]

don't worry i lost both 50/50 for now

[paper bone]

my wep was 70 pulls tho sadge

[quartz dove]

Shut up i lose my 50/50 too

[paper bone]

I lost my jinhsi to changyu

[cursive junco]

i lost 7 in hsr so

[carmine reef]

it's ok me too

[quartz dove]

If i have my pgr luck in wuwa i will get all my limited ez

[spiral merlin]

I have not gotten anything early in wuwa except encore 6 pulls early from the beginner banner

[manic lantern]

If you get into PGR, your other gachas gonna be in danger xD

[quartz dove]

[manic lantern]

PGR made me drop 7 gachas

[spiral merlin]

And I lost a 50/50 to lingfuck

[carmine reef]

it's ok me too

[cursive junco]

nah i'm not dropping hsr or wuwa for pgr no way

[carmine reef]

i dropped hsr after getting into pgr lol

[frozen creek]

[cursive junco]

i already dropped gi and hi3

[carmine reef]

it's not only bc of pgr though

[manic lantern]

Yeah, WuWa + PGR. Im set

[paper bone]

I dropped counterside to play wuwa

Still check the awk banners tho

[carmine reef]

i dropped my croissants

[paper bone]

FOUL BEHAVIOUR

[cursive junco]

i love my acheron too much for this

[paper bone]

Me and my 30:300 jingcheron

[carmine reef]

i have acheron but no amount of acheron will make me push myself through penacony slog and force myself to play a game where i go to 80 rolls each banner just to lose 50/50

[manic lantern]

Penacony was a slog

[cursive junco]

i love penacony

[carmine reef]

the penacony story is ass

[frozen creek]

Sounds oddly familiar

[carmine reef]

the pacing is awful

[paper bone]

notjing is better than belobog bruj

[manic lantern]

Belobog was good

[paper bone]

[cursive junco]

belobog is amazing too

[manic lantern]

herta space station was good too

[paper bone]

that felr like the midgar arc in ff7

[quartz dove]

@spiral merlin its over man i cant get s+ rose in time

[cursive junco]

so anyway i should now don't pull anything in pgr and just save for lamia?

[quartz dove]

Im 25 shard short

[paper bone]

yes

[spiral merlin]

omg time to spend shards on entropy sss

[carmine reef]

yes

[paper bone]

roll standard

[shadow holly]

fish rules supreme for dark

[carmine reef]

mfs hear about fish for dark dps

but are they ready for trs as main brick dps

[shadow holly]

why did I even receive this kind of fame
I never brick anyone intentionally

[paper bone]

Trs give me 350 ducats when

[shadow holly]

go open relics brokie

[paper bone]

I got peimed flow its fine

[pine slate]

NA 1% is top 80 now

[paper bone]

thats all i wanted

[keen ravine]

Does anyone know where that spreadsheet, which shows which character goes on what color, is? I remember seeing it somewhere, just not sure where.

[quartz dove]

Wait how many shard u get with shard selector ?

[pine slate]

15?

[quartz dove]

Only 15 ?

[spiral merlin]

Per bp

[pine slate]

U mean bp shard selector? Whel

[carmine reef]

grayravens.com shows that but also color placement is situation dependent

[quartz dove]

NOOOO WAAAAAAAA THIS IS OVER

[carmine reef]

so don't take it as gospel

[quartz dove]

I cant get rose s+

[paper bone]

yes u can just 🧱

[spiral merlin]

There are 2 roads ahead of every bp whale
Sacrifice everything for rose s+ or get the long coveted entropy sss

[paper bone]

ur alr building a skyscrapper

[quartz dove]

November i need to use both shard select and shard shop for garnet

[keen ravine]

oh yeah. its this one. thank you very much. the spreadsheet thing was just my imagination.

[quartz dove]

And i cant use my voucher now cus i will brick my sss alisa

[spiral merlin]

I mean who wouldn’t want…
20% edb when doing entropy yellow orb

[quartz dove]

Is that what it actually do ?

[carmine reef]

all i know is that entropy has a skill called space lord and that's funny as hell

[paper bone]

damn

[pine slate]

We have a whel emotionally breaking down here cuz of bp shard select

[carmine reef]

good

need me more whel tears tbh

[quartz dove]

Its ocer

My balter wont do dmg now

Have to wait hanying for unbrick

[pine slate]

[quartz dove]

[spiral merlin]

Balter won’t do dmg

Embrace entropy

[woven sable]

whels have feelings too

[carmine reef]

i wish all whels more feelings of despair and misery

amen

[woven sable]

f2p no rights

[quartz dove]

How naive of me think i can s+ horse with just bp selector before leap unit come

[woven sable]

no right to wish

[quartz dove]

[cursive junco]

does it matter what do i choose on base banner at the start?

[woven sable]

yes

[quartz dove]

Yes

[pine slate]

A ranks?

[cursive junco]

yeah i saw something with no 21 or liv lux if i remember

[carmine reef]

get the tanks first

tank hyuj for dmg

[quartz dove]

Ok ok

[dapper skiff]

Pff

[quartz dove]

If i buy rose shard in lamia brs and wata patch

[dapper skiff]

Imagine still pulling standard when standard selector is 3 weeks more

[quartz dove]

I can still get s+

[dapper skiff]

Just use both selector for your first team smh

[carmine reef]

they're like 2 days account it's fine

[quartz dove]

[spiral merlin]

With vouchers?

What about the poor harmo mats

[dapper skiff]

(They're not)

[pine slate]

I have 15k blue tix

[dapper skiff]

Imagine getting early crap s and forced to do 60 pity for standard selector

I'd just quit

[pine slate]

With 40 pity

[carmine reef]

completely new player gets enough to reach 60 again if they early pity

[dapper skiff]

They don't

[pine slate]

Early pity as in?

[carmine reef]

i hit early pity when i was a newbie at like 20/40 and then still got 60/60 like a month later

[dapper skiff]

@deft apex already math blue ticks income for Newbies and 15k is all the have besides weekly

[dapper skiff]

Still not worth when u gt a sht s rank

So it's 50:50 if you want to use that 40 pity rn

[carmine reef]

i mean if they will have the pulls either way it doesn't really matter

[pine slate]

Lamia patch have 10 standard pulls btw

[carmine reef]

they get to pick one and then they get one they won't pick

[dapper skiff]

They don't

That's the problem

[carmine reef]

waiting just changes the order

[dapper skiff]

Blue tick income besides one time reward is sht

[carmine reef]

yeah but again they have all their one time rewards still

[dapper skiff]

Like what
4 pull per month?

[carmine reef]

cause their account is like 2 days old

[dapper skiff]

Oh cmon you don't know sht

[cursive junco]

which one

[carmine reef]

bruh

[pine slate]

Standard weapon banner 1 pull per month

[dapper skiff]

He didn't do that just for nothing alright

[carmine reef]

arclight/xxi/changyu

[quartz dove]

Nvm i miss calculate august is in 4 days

[spiral merlin]

[quartz dove]

Legit brick

[dapper skiff]

It's too risky for a newb to pull standard especially when they don't get s in first 10x

[quartz dove]

I need 95 shard

[dapper skiff]

S on 20 and 30 is just gonna delay their standard select s which is like their strongest upgrade for those who started after anniv

[quartz dove]

45 from selector shard in 3 patch lamia brs wata

[dapper skiff]

So if they can't get it asap, pretty much bricked their progress until they got the pity

[quartz dove]

I need 50 more...

[dapper skiff]

Which makes their condition even worse because starting that late

[spiral merlin]

I don’t think it’s happening

[dapper skiff]

Random S ain't gonna give sht

Stop coping

[spiral merlin]

Not unless you had a voucher stockpile

[quartz dove]

I have 17k for echo sss in 4 days

And uuh

[spiral merlin]

You could take into account the increased voucher income from qu patch if you haven’t already?

[woven sable]

how many blue cards do i get before fish?

[cursive junco]

with this one i can also wait till i get something good or it doesn't matter?

[quartz dove]

Bp lvl 48 to 80 worth of voucher

[quartz dove]

I havent account that fair

[pine slate]

It's still 20 shards per month

That doesn't change

[spiral merlin]

The issue is not that but the vouchers themselves amidst all the other shards required I think

[dapper skiff]

Meh

It's anime trash

He'll manage those later fine

[pine slate]

Surely shard selector + vouchers should be decent enough

[quartz dove]

Yeah i want to focus on garnet the moment she get leap

[pine slate]

Ye he can just gacha anyways

[spiral merlin]

You’d think so

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

I gave up on garnet investment

[quartz dove]

I will be humble myself and happy with her sss with leap

[pine slate]

I'm keeping her ss

Trash team anyways

[quartz dove]

By time qu drop honestl yeah

[pine slate]

Sss ain't gonna change sht

Rather save for empy leap or wanshi

[spiral merlin]

Isn’t it like +20% shred tho

[quartz dove]

But still good option for luna void sub tank

[pine slate]

Or maybe even scire

[quartz dove]

Scire investment is secured

[pine slate]

Lightning still trash tbh

[quartz dove]

I dont need think abot her for a while

[sand laurel]

[spiral merlin]

Still trash but big boost for when light is required

[pine slate]

And she's prolly getting replaced

[quartz dove]

She will

[pine slate]

Better to sss other units first before garnet

Sss leap scire can be used in phys ppc

[quartz dove]

This exclusively talk about leaped unit

Other unit is under control

[dapper skiff]

Yeah i don't really see a solid reason to rush sss garn

Other voucher character have more value for sss

Amps, scire

[spiral merlin]

In my situation going for sss garn is a no brainer

[pine slate]

[dapper skiff]

Thicc wallet moment

[pine slate]

My garnet is still base s

[spiral merlin]

[quartz dove]

Sss echo is just 4 days away for me

[dapper skiff]

My garn is gonna be permanently S

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

Next week has redliv as well

New scores for me

[dapper skiff]

You don't even swap with her

Why a balt soloer needs sss echo

[quartz dove]

Amp passive boost

[pine slate]

More atk and dmg bonus on first 10s

[dapper skiff]

Killing sponge waves with that 20% atk and phys fr

[pine slate]

[obtuse sapphire]

Is there still lamia atm? Like where you fight her? I wanna try it

[quartz dove]

Click limited event

U should see her

She doesnt instantly evaporate at least in final tier

[spiral merlin]

It just takes 2 seconds instead

[sand laurel]

2x haicma sig from two pities and still counting...

[dapper skiff]

1 brick

2 brick

[dapper skiff]

3 brick

[sand laurel]

3?

[dapper skiff]

4 brick

5 brick

[quartz dove]

Beat dazzal record

4 offrate

[dapper skiff]

U said you're still counting

[sand laurel]

[zenith thorn]

3rd time the charm

[sand laurel]

no trust in my luck :(

[dapper skiff]

Atleast 3 haicma sig = 1 Alisa sig

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1143927445028864031.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

[sand laurel]

oh yeah, all my luck transfered to my f2p account I got 5 sigs there this patch (barely avoided bricking s-rank pulls)

2 haicma sigs, alisa sig, kaleido sig, empy sig

[quartz dove]

Must be nice

[sand laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/887109288533844049/1266238345177071740/IMG_1323.png?ex=66a6661b&is=66a5149b&hm=23e8d5a3a54f6ca29b4d4085bb9d054cab4949e6bf2c681abc512d7eadc7746a&

can I get this on my spender acc and not possibly hit offrate 3 times?

[jade rain]

Good morning Chat

[shadow holly]

no

[quartz dove]

Is s+ rose still used in china ?

[jade rain]

https://emotes.io/discord/peepoArrive.gif

[jade rain]

We have Hanying

[quartz dove]

Other tank in ppc ?

[jade rain]

Actually in ppc I'm not sure

[dapper skiff]

No ||-||fuck you

[shadow holly]

sure but her ranks do nothing since Hanying phys shred is higher

[jade rain]

Hm

[quartz dove]

Damb

[shadow holly]

[dapper skiff]

[quartz dove]

It just im gonna feel awful if i dont finish it

[jade rain]

Where's zexous

Said he'd stream a game today smh

[quartz dove]

Im too deep in cant pull it out

[zenith thorn]

who u calling dumb

[jade rain]

[zenith thorn]

get a room to flirt

[quartz dove]

Anyway enough of investment tak

[jade rain]

.

[quartz dove]

Is out of touch

[jade rain]

Oh look

Less than a week for SSS balter

Funni

F2p SSS balter woosh

https://emotes.io/discord/peepoHappy.png

[spiral merlin]

Sounds like me fr

[zenith thorn]

phat

[shadow holly]

magmalao funding half of EU server frfr

[jade rain]

I got less sleep than usual today

Only 6 hours

[spiral merlin]

?

[jade rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/801755297408352276.png?size=48

[sand laurel]

[shadow holly]

don't remember sending my recharge

[sand laurel]

trs is spender

[carmine reef]

After I'm done making food

[jade rain]

Okeh

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Why not a cooking stream

[carmine reef]

[river nymph]

[jade rain]

Xenowo

[river nymph]

nani

[jade rain]

https://emotes.io/discord/peepoArrive.gif

[river nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/697995591921172532.gif?@everyone

[jade rain]

It's already beta on Thursday? Time moves so fast

[barren plank]

[spiral merlin]

One of these things is not like the other

[river nymph]

[barren plank]

Wahdapak

[shadow holly]

holy

[livid lark]

[quartz dove]

Magmalao

[spiral merlin]

Whole 1m score diff for 1st its so kurover

[river nymph]

alpha's abs

my goat

[sand laurel]

this eu?

[spiral merlin]

Lightning team for both zones kinda crazy

[spiral merlin]

Yeah

[river nymph]

[sand laurel]

I bet Alpha's Abs not even flexing on that server

[quartz dove]

Eu whel built difference

[restive grove]

oh hey, that helper pasta guy

[barren plank]

Should I mald PPC or WZ first guys

[shadow holly]

mald PPC skip wz fr fr

[quartz dove]

Up to u imma just mute and watch

[barren plank]

I think im prolly gonna demote anyways so

[quartz dove]

[river nymph]

wz, ppc boring

[barren plank]

hmm tie vote

[river nymph]

ppc spend more time watching boss intro cutscenes

[barren plank]

ill do a coin flip

WZ it is

[spiral merlin]

I love playing the game

[shadow holly]

[spiral merlin]

Why is this emote called wz

[shadow holly]

[spiral merlin]

So true

[shadow holly]

[jade rain]

Can we just call them Aa

[sand laurel]

what about ult cutscenes

[quartz dove]

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

filipino go crazy

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-nokotan-my-deer-friend-nokotan-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-9850497477868508242

[restive grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1145339949315534908.gif?size=48

[jade rain]

IT'S SO HUMID

LIKE

[livid lark]

rip you guys living along the equator

[brave iris]

Hi! Whose consciousness dominates Alisa's Sisterly Armor!

[jade rain]

What

[livid lark]

read the story lol

[brave iris]

I wish it had France russian translation!

[cerulean grotto]

#🎲・glb-lore

[brave iris]

[livid lark]

yea if you want to discuss lore go to #🎲・glb-lore

we touch on lore a bit here but this isn't the channel for it

[hollow tulip]

[unkempt grotto]

Rosetta hides her feelings in Russian

[livid lark]

her hair is too short for that lol

[dapper skiff]

Kurai hides his feelings in Russian

(I had a csgo losestreak)

[oblique spoke]

Will brs pity be 10 pull?

[dapper skiff]

Yes

She's an A rank

[oblique spoke]

Alleluia

[brave iris]

[woven haven]

can’t believe kurai picked to be the most mid of the waifus

[oblique spoke]

How much pull to get her to ss?

[woven haven]

too much to be worth

just keep her at A rank

nothing on brs patch is worth pulling for
not her ranks nor her weapon

there is still S rank pity on that limited banner

[unkempt grotto]

Is it true that fate banners gives a selector when hitting 100 pity

[woven haven]

and its completely random what you get

[unkempt grotto]

I kinda need that selector for my ice team

[woven haven]

no ofc not

[velvet agate]

No

[woven haven]

dunno where you got that misinfo from

[velvet agate]

Prob miku's misinfo again

[unkempt grotto]

Sad

[velvet agate]

Or general

[unkempt grotto]

I knew it was too good to be true

[dapper skiff]

Homemade one

[unkempt grotto]

Will brs banner also include nier units too

[woven haven]

no its literally the most garbage banner to date please do not follow your misguided infatuated heart

[jade rain]

Smh

Aether stop scaring players

[mighty tusk]

@livid lark

[dapper skiff]

Don't really worry about ut aether

[velvet agate]

No

[dapper skiff]

He gonna quit before qu anyway

[velvet agate]

Nier is already ded

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

Aetherlao is really making it ez for bingo

[jade rain]

We're going to lose revenue

[mighty tusk]

Let pgr die

[unkempt grotto]

wtf @rose yew how many misinfo do you have

[woven haven]

i’m even looking at BRS ranks and why the hell does this guy want SS0 that’s garbage to stop on considering S rank pity is 60 even

Its not even a logical stopping point rank

[jade rain]

Isn't SS3 her stopping point

[velvet agate]

sss3*

[mighty tusk]

Fr, s+ is better
(Better bricking)

[quartz dove]

Brs is 1 copy each 10 pull rigght ?

Since shes a rank

[woven haven]

SS3 and SSS unlock new mechanics
SS3 falls just under 60 pity so you usually round up

[unkempt grotto]

Heard brs with her sig already doing more damage than hyperreal tho

[woven haven]

It costs as much as an S rank

[jade rain]

If only Brs was themed banner

[oblique spoke]

Its not like im every gonna swipe an card for an gamr anytime soon

[jade rain]

What

[woven haven]

please keep your mouth shut before you spill any more misinfo

[cerulean grotto]

Even I was curious about one thing, will nier Collab pity carry over to brs?

[woven haven]

no

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

Pfff

[quartz dove]

Male issue

[cerulean grotto]

So both are considered different banners?

[mighty tusk]

[woven haven]

even more reason to ditch rolling brs ranks
she’s free at A rank you greedy bastard

[unkempt grotto]

?? I’m so confused

[dapper skiff]

Why wouldn't it

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

your last 4 sentences have all been false info

[unkempt grotto]

I’m using 4 shakes 2 sig on hyperreal and he does absolute no damage whatsoever in ppc

[woven haven]

2sig

[dapper skiff]

Skill issues tbh

[woven haven]

Ok now you’re just trolling

[carmine reef]

dam aether so easy to bait

sasuga pgro #1 hater

[cerulean grotto]

Any new reddit drama tho?

[mighty tusk]

Wym? No new players to entertain

[carmine reef]

i'm new player entertain me

[dapper skiff]

I don't even have reddit since first place

[mighty tusk]

@jade rain

[woven haven]

shush zexous
i will tie you up with nnin for a week

[carmine reef]

that's already what it's like being in this chat

this threat means nothing to me

[woven haven]

anyways back to the conversation at hand
BRS rolling is dumb, full stop
as a f2p its even more worthless

[jade rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/863946164289798175.gif?size=48

[woven haven]

did you know that you can’t even use brs on half of the modes

because kuro doesn’t put collab units in any of the roguelikes or combat events

[unkempt grotto]

Aether so meta even the slightest mistake makes him say bricked

[woven haven]

No no no i need these people to understand how bad BRS bricking is

[quartz dove]

Wait so no brs in cursed wave ??

[woven haven]

yeah none for any future combat stuff either

literally only place to use her is babel

[livid lark]

[quartz dove]

Broo that suck big time holy sht

[woven haven]

and babel is like wow you have 1 babel total after brs patch lmao

Enjoy your 2 mins of brs gameplay you spent 60k bc on

[oblique spoke]

Seem so😭

[woven haven]

such value

Absolute worthy waste of your resources

[oblique spoke]

Damn
That crazy

[dapper skiff]

Waifu is irrelevant in #📨・meta-help

[unkempt grotto]

So what happens if I missed orskipped one round of clash reflection

[carmine reef]

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[woven haven]

that’s why i said NOT to roll brs ranks

[quartz dove]

Cursed wave legit place to -fuck around with this a rank tbh

[cerulean grotto]

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[jade rain]

<@&595893856554319873>

[quartz dove]

And s rank banner system with a rank unit like really ???

[dapper skiff]

I can scam better than you smh

[woven haven]

you get brs A rank for free and that performs as well as an sss+ brs in babel

[quartz dove]

Thay suck

[carmine reef]

what i want to know is why does every scam message always include "bro"

[woven haven]

yeah no rateup either
every S rank till echo is in the banner

[carmine reef]

does that make it likelier to work

[woven haven]

so you can get entropiss or ember

[jade rain]

Maybe it seems more convincing

[quartz dove]

BRO WHAT

[oblique spoke]

I was just asking how much it would cost i aint dropping 60k bc on her

[hidden forum]

U know helpers can delete in this channel right

[quartz dove]

wow wow she stay a rank in my account then

That just kick in the balls

[jade rain]

Would be funny if kurai pinged mod

[carmine reef]

isn't it that only some of them can if they're specifically given perms in the channel or smth

[cerulean grotto]

Pinging mods is fun 😊

[woven haven]

15k BC is for SS3 which is her actual “biggest” gamechanging rank and the only way to not waste any built up pity

[hidden forum]

No u just need second factor authentication for perms

[cerulean grotto]

Also, helpers can't remove the person from server

[carmine reef]

ic

[woven haven]

If you spend 15k
You get 1 random S rank and BRS SS3

[quartz dove]

Shes near genocide patch too

[woven haven]

But wata and qu are right after

[quartz dove]

Which is yikes