📨・meta-help

[dapper skiff]

[ashen edge]

[hazy sandal]

[dapper skiff]

I am her landing pad

[rose yew]

https://tenor.com/view/shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-torako-koshi-deer-my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-gif-719912410608699214

[rose yew]

who dis

[livid lark]

runah

[hazy sandal]

Rurah

[shadow holly]

@unkempt grotto

[hazy sandal]

0,0,0

[rose yew]

落汤鸡落娜

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827230733311016980/1127900567142932490/GriseoBlep.gif

[cerulean grotto]

Caught in 4k

Sir, you're asking for a ban

[dapper skiff]

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[dapper skiff]

I'm just doing favor to my fren

[rose yew]

tell your fren to speak up then the mods can't hear him

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

He's little bit shy

[steady otter]

BAMBINATA & TEDDY NEW COSTUME MAKE ME WANNA ||PAT THEM||

[dapper skiff]

Don't push him too much smh

[rose yew]

fair

[dapper skiff]

Look at him go

[livid lark]

😭

[shadow holly]

when patting rotation guide for ss0

[dapper skiff]

Probably not anything soon

But he got Patting guide for echoes

[shadow holly]

i would pat the ice cube guys
they very cute

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141462920329441470.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=SoppoEat

[barren plank]

windlao plz delete

[cunning tree]

Does the shred stack? https://grayravens.com/wiki/Hydro_Heat

[shadow holly]

yes the shred from pulse sig is separate and stacks on top of all existing fire res shred sources

[cerulean grotto]

Yes

[cunning tree]

I mean can this sig apply multiple stacks of its own 5% shred

[barren plank]

no

[cerulean grotto]

weapon pulse

[velvet hedge]

Nanami • Pulse

Hydro Heat ★★★★★★

Fire Chain

Attacks have a 10% chance to reduce the target's Fire Resistance by 5% for 5s. 8s cooldown against the same target. A Signature Move increases Fire DMG by 20% and doubles the chance of reducing the target's Resistance.

ATK

436

CRIT

230

Saw

[rose yew]

@remote pier @hidden forum

[remote pier]

this is beautiful

[shadow holly]

insane

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-kiss-pet-love-you-gif-21034159

[rose yew]

wadapak why is the skill desp blank

I need those numbers for damage graph

[coarse knoll]

Whats the strat to SSS Alisa? One gacha then skulls, BP and event?

[rose yew]

yeah

pull first is important, the rest of the order isn't

[cerulean grotto]

Ngl miku, seems about right for luminance

[coarse knoll]

Sic ty

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

1 gacha to unlock
50 for ss0 rank and 20 shards
30 shards from pain cage
40 from 2 months of voucher

Enough for sss

[rose yew]

luminance max stack sig move is real damage

[dapper skiff]

Can do only 10 shards skulls if you're willing to wait another month for sss alisa

[cerulean grotto]

Real and true

Lumi > alisa

[rose yew]

4 Cottie 4 phil lumi is insta kill on ppc

[cerulean grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[jade rain]

Morning chat

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[jade rain]

[rose yew]

ohayo

[cerulean grotto]

Wym, I trust miku more than y'all

[ashen edge]

[rose yew]

can I post cn stuff that's already on Wikipedia btw

wait oath is already out of beta

[remote pier]

yeee she is discharged

[hybrid pendant]

[rose yew]

I'll get working on Lucia dmg graph as soon as I get those numbers

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/682947154804998148.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=CatPaws

what a dedicated helper

[jade rain]

Yes

[vague nebula]

[jade rain]

The 2 week rule was removed quite a while ago

[vague nebula]

[hybrid pendant]

[jade rain]

Back then, you needed to wait 2 weeks after content in CN was released before discussing it in global platforms

[rose yew]

[jade rain]

Thanks to democracy, it got removed

[vague nebula]

[rose yew]

server so ded they allowing us to talk cn earlier

[vague nebula]

love democracy

[brazen spire]

Still dead regardless most people i knew are no longer here

[rose yew]

true

[jade rain]

It's so hard to ult spam with Lucia if no DLT

[rose yew]

Just hold ba

[cerulean grotto]

#💬・pgr-general message

I thought I'll find some drama smh

[rose yew]

unpossible where the kb warriors go

[cerulean grotto]

Idk, NA ch1 is behaving properly

[river nymph]

chat

[cerulean grotto]

Someone do stronghold mald with only a ranks

[shadow holly]

[cerulean grotto]

[river nymph]

whos streaming wz

[rare badge]

is there some sweaty WZ player left?

[remote pier]

Xeno

[rose yew]

fire physical
I've got nothing to stream

[shadow holly]

need cer to stream spending 30 seconds on one wave in legend

[small roost]

Can I reroll even if I have ww acc but I wanna keep them linked to same account

[cerulean grotto]

Reroll first bind later ig

[shadow holly]

PGR doesn't use Kuro games account

[pine slate]

I don't think pgr has a kuro games acc?

Unless ur talking about same google acc

[small roost]

Yea same google account

[pine slate]

I don't recommend rerolling in this game

[small roost]

That's fair I kinda thought it was like a company acc kinda like riot or smth

[pine slate]

Too many s ranks in the standard pool, hard to get the good ones

[small roost]

Did I miss anni?

[pine slate]

Nah

Anni is in like 4 days lmao

[small roost]

Lmao

[shadow holly]

4 days til phys is playable

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141462920329441470.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=SoppoEat

[gentle quail]

2 weeks until SS Alisa

[barren plank]

Ok mb I'm loosing my marbles and I'm just skill issued, but is Norman Voodoo supposed to turn invisible or is my game bugging

[cerulean grotto]

Skill issue

[dapper skiff]

Idk

Probably something to do with the primes

[barren plank]

I swear I'll be doing fine but then it goes invisible and I get one shot 3 seconds after

Goddamn i absolutely hate this chat censor

Let me curse

[cerulean grotto]

Probably that jump move ig?

[cerulean grotto]

Just stay in unlimited Iframes ez

[barren plank]

A whole lot of moves kill me bc I cant see it since Voodoo is pretty fast

[cerulean grotto]

Just keep doing your regular phys rot, even if he's invisible he won't go away

Iframes will carry you

[barren plank]

Sure ig

Thankfully if I really need an iframe I can just use hanying ult

[cerulean grotto]

Hanying?

[barren plank]

Just that im afraid to use it too often bc it's... looooooong

[cerulean grotto]

💀💀

[barren plank]

A Hanying

[cerulean grotto]

Just swap rose and balter

[barren plank]

I do a little dps w Hanying bc Rose rot is too short

[cerulean grotto]

Don't use her ult then, she got a lot of dodge bar anyway

[river nymph]

[barren plank]

Yea ult is just if Ill die w/o the Iframe

[cerulean grotto]

If you use Hanying ult you'll probably timeout

@barren plank wanna stream it here?

[barren plank]

Im too tired now it's almost 1 and I got work

Ping me uuuh

[cerulean grotto]

K

[barren plank]

Mb 8 hours from now

[cerulean grotto]

[barren plank]

Actually real quick before I go

With tank hanying, does she still use rose? I think sm1 here said she does and if so, why does Rose still work?

[rose yew]

hanying dps
rose holds the cath for shred

[cerulean grotto]

Miku prolly correct ig

[digital moat]

For ppc

[rose yew]

balter is powercrept in ppc yet again

[barren plank]

yes for ppc is what I meant

obv in wz u still use balter

[cerulean grotto]

Ss3 balter with leap better trust

[rose yew]

for ion boss maybe

[cerulean grotto]

[barren plank]

Why not just put it on Eclipse tho ig

[cerulean grotto]

6 tank class probably ig

[barren plank]

Doesnt the passive not stack

[digital moat]

She can carry cath like others said also as a physical tank She can equip tank shred and use 6class reso

[barren plank]

Oh true lol

[digital moat]

Since hanyings reso should be something else

[cerulean grotto]

Hanying doesn't use 6 class

[barren plank]

dlt?

[rose yew]

sig?

[river nymph]

[barren plank]

RIGHT she uses 6core i always forget that mb

[cerulean grotto]

She uses 6 core huh

[river nymph]

yeah

[cerulean grotto]

I'll care about it later, let game survive until shukra

[barren plank]

Lmao

[cerulean grotto]

[river nymph]

exactly

[barren plank]

Oh btw for this I think it's good to put a little subsection that all lv 80 players and above immediately get the mats needed for exactly 1 harmo so they can put it on Echo on patch start

It'll save ppl a lot of stress

Ok I go sleep now gn yall

[nova forum]

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141462920329441470.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=SoppoEat

[pine slate]

[river nymph]

[ashen edge]

[thorn creek]

[cerulean grotto]

Why is suggested Alisa mems 4dv 2 Signa (+2 Signa)
Instead of 4 Signa 2dv?

[cerulean grotto]

@dapper skiff

[pine slate]

It's the same thing

[cerulean grotto]

Isn't Signa cheaper on debut

[pine slate]

Ye it is

[mighty tusk]

Signa = 132 attack
Dv = 135 attack

[pine slate]

^

[cerulean grotto]

💀💀

[river nymph]

[cerulean grotto]

Time to minmax 6 atk

Pre buying all dv

[pine slate]

I already have full ht dv so it's 4 dv 2 signa for me

[river nymph]

[pine slate]

That set is never gonna change anyways

[river nymph]

inb4 alisa leap

[cerulean grotto]

I think I already have a non reso dv set I saved for empy, guess she'll have to wait

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-liv-liv-emprya-crying-sad-gif-16877849359180330014

[rose yew]

for 5 star weapon copers

[livid lark]

people who cant pull alisa's sig

couldn't be me

[cerulean grotto]

Watch me off rate Bianca bow trust

[rose yew]

I should be over 50k bc by now what did i miss

[cerulean grotto]

FK her sig effects

I just need harmo

[livid lark]

imagine if harmo didn't allow non compatible sig weapons

[thorn creek]

A rank bianca sig bow

[jade rain]

EXCUSEEEEEEE YOUUUUUU?

I don't copy and paste

I make copy and pastes

[cerulean grotto]

That's actually better than Bianca bow tbh

Veritas I mean

[thorn creek]

Shi ur actually right

[rose yew]

I thought the person that made copy and paste passed away 4 years ago

[cerulean grotto]

weapon zero

[velvet hedge]

Bianca • Zero

Ramiel ★★★★★★

Now, I Am the Master

Signature Move's Extra DMG Bonus increases by 15%. Signature Move reduces its target's Physical Resistance by 2% for 5s per hit. Can be stacked up to 8 times. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

ATK

471

CRIT

254

Bow

[cerulean grotto]

weapon veritas

[velvet hedge]

Bianca • Veritas

Tonitrus ★★★★★★

Raging Tempest

Lightning DMG is increased by 15%. When dealing Lightning DMG caused by skills to the same target 5 times, calls down a lightning strike that deals 150% Lightning DMG. 2s cooldown.

ATK

476

CRIT

249

Bow

[jade rain]

What happened

What did I win?

[rose yew]

wadapak 16% free shred

[cerulean grotto]

Rex luccsacc his last hyperdawn

[thorn creek]

sig dmg and 16% shred, actually nb

[cerulean grotto]

[jade rain]

Kekw

[jade rain]

Oh I also got a cub

4.5 secured

[thorn creek]

where reso?

[winter scarab]

[remote pier]

why isn't she SSS + r3?

[jade rain]

Waiting on actual information from other people to see

I already have a usb waiting for her

[cerulean grotto]

Cn woee

[thorn creek]

ahh I see. smart

[winter scarab]

Bro isn't rexlent

[proud leaf]

hello, where i can get some basic construct tickets? is it possible to get 27 tickets in a month?

[winter scarab]

[cerulean grotto]

Yes

[remote pier]

sometimes I forgor nnin is a baby

[winter scarab]

Did you miss a 0?

[proud leaf]

no xd, i just dont know how to farm it

[thorn creek]

you can get 100-150 basic construct tickets bi weekly from daily log in

[cerulean grotto]

Still a yes

[winter scarab]

Yea but it's like if bro needs 27 he can use bc

[cerulean grotto]

450/ 4 weeks

That's excluding guardian

[jade rain]

Lucia Sig + cub costs me a total of

[zenith thorn]

whel

[cerulean grotto]

Shut up

[winter scarab]

I think I'll have close to 5k blue tickets in lamia patch

[jade rain]

Kekw

[remote pier]

Is that your credit card #?

[jade rain]

[jade rain]

BC savings

[winter scarab]

Btw lucia can jump

[zenith thorn]

if you multiply that with 0
you get my bank balance
crazy

[proud leaf]

oh, i mean 27 pulls in total, not 27 tickets xd

[cerulean grotto]

I swear if I don't luccsacc lamia, I'm blocking nnin

[cerulean grotto]

[jade rain]

I might have enough for next S rank + sig

[livid lark]

smh

[remote pier]

just block him now. Start early.

[winter scarab]

Nah you'll get 5 pulls or something like that

[jade rain]

F2p plan

[jade rain]

I'm gonna tell on you

[winter scarab]

No i mean 3

[cerulean grotto]

Enough is enough, its been 3 years now

[zenith thorn]

just block everyone
can't be proven false misinfo if you never got told

[livid lark]

[remote pier]

[livid lark]

block everyone
cant be spoiled or misinformed when you don't talk to anyone

[cerulean grotto]

3 FKN YEARS

[remote pier]

k stalker

[cerulean grotto]

How is rexlent more lucky than me

[remote pier]

power of a whel

[cerulean grotto]

FK it, fate banner it is next time

[jade rain]

[cerulean grotto]

Already have 8 pity built

[jade rain]

You might have chances in it

[remote pier]

if you pull enough fate, it'll form a normal distribution

[jade rain]

Not saying you should but you might

[thorn creek]

I believe in u🙏

[jade rain]

I got uncle on one ten pull in arrival

Saved fire

[pine slate]

Whel

[rose yew]

ganbatte

[cerulean grotto]

Trust you miku

[remote pier]

your flexing is going to make lumi block you for life

[cerulean grotto]

[thorn creek]

Fate banner Lamia 1 pull

[rose yew]

have there been cases where a banned pgr account gets recovered

[jade rain]

I'm motivating him

[cerulean grotto]

Yes

Just get rc above minus

[rose yew]

[cerulean grotto]

[jade rain]

Sadge A rank next patch

Lilith soon

[remote pier]

what if Kuro pulls a HSR and debut another S rank?

[thorn creek]

Wasn't it gonna be that horn girl next?

[jade rain]

Can still pull

I have a few more one time clears

Just incase of emergencies

[remote pier]

who knows. They didn't say she is next.

and didn't they took out her horn?

[jade rain]

Who's horn

Can we have a name

[remote pier]

4 arm engineer girl

[jade rain]

Banana

Cw will most like be paired up with Nanami

I do wonder what affix cw will have

[remote pier]

vergil affix

[jade rain]

There's still vacant spots

[pine slate]

Fire

[jade rain]

Burn kek

The worst affix for the worst character

[rose yew]

what's the name for ice affix
frostbite or frosty

[cerulean grotto]

Affix uniframe?

[remote pier]

glaciation or something

[cerulean grotto]

[rose yew]

mk

[jade rain]

Go with frostbite

Boykisser

[river nymph]

cw needs a dark affix and then we need a new rosetta dark amp

[thorn creek]

Found it. Yata

[jade rain]

Dark's abandoned

[rose yew]

who's yata

[river nymph]

just like you

[jade rain]

[river nymph]

six arms

[jade rain]

I was thinking of Nanami

[thorn creek]

was dis girl

[jade rain]

Light with fire affix

[jade rain]

Either that or dark with fire affix

[river nymph]

[rose yew]

八咫?

[river nymph]

whatever that means

[brazen spire]

Her glow up is insane i still can't get over it

[river nymph]

[rose yew]

sounds like a uniframe name

[jade rain]

If yata were to be dark, we'd see the first ever replacement of amps

[river nymph]

finally

make the dark amp gacha only so dark becomes even more expensive

[jade rain]

[river nymph]

[brazen spire]

Isn't she a rank

[jade rain]

Who knows

[river nymph]

i hope not but probably

[rose yew]

back2back2back S rank trust

[thorn creek]

Dark affix: whelization

[rose yew]

what would void affix be called, vanta?

[river nymph]

pulls up a quick time event where you have to top-up to activate the affix

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141462920329441470.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=SoppoEat

[thorn creek]

One credit swipe per wave in wz

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

Disorder

Are you making the graphs for affix already nya?

[rose yew]

no plans for those yet

[brazen spire]

Why it would speedrun you getting muted again

[rose yew]

too busy echo picking

[celest otter]

dawg how do i get this coating 😭😭🙏🙏🙏

it’s so fire

[brazen spire]

Rerun

[rose yew]

if I recall it was free from a previous big coop event

not anchor realm tho

[brazen spire]

Isn't that the vampire glory skin paid? Or am i tripping

[celest otter]

yeah

it is

[celest otter]

does that mean it’s not available anymore 😭😭

[celest otter]

WAIT PAID???

[brazen spire]

When the stars align it will come back but you gotta swipe

[celest otter]

aw man one day ig 😭

but thanks

[brazen spire]

Prolly in november

[celest otter]

wait fr!?!?

it’s an annual thing??

[cerulean grotto]

Rc

Costs only 168+28 rc when it's in offers

[celest otter]

ohhhh i see i see

how often is it in offers ☹️

[cerulean grotto]

Idk, check if it's available in shop for 240+30 rc

If it's a limited skin it probably won't be available

[celest otter]

ohhhhh okok merci 🫡🫡🫡

[keen saddle]

Can you full clear the meandering 3 boss thing with trial characters

[rose yew]

yes just swap alot

[worthy vortex]

what's a good starter team nowadays? when i first played, the rec was dark team

[rose yew]

it's still dark team

[worthy vortex]

really? damn

[rose yew]

except that now you don't build astral at all

because another dark attacker is replacing astral in like 7 weeks time

[worthy vortex]

why is dark always recommended as a starter?

[livid lark]

easiest to farm

because the a ranks are very accessible

for other elements it's not as easy

[worthy vortex]

when you say accessible, do you mean braindead mechanics?

[rose yew]

good question
tbh I would start with light team because I've attached to Dawn achlight Lux

[livid lark]

no
as in getting the unit

[worthy vortex]

i mean, if you're just starting the game, you can make a full A-rank team just off the 40 pulls on standard

[livid lark]

yea ideally you should build your starter team around what you can grab with the selector/standard banner pulls when you start

doesn't mean they synergise well
otherwise you can really just go with any 3

[cerulean grotto]

We have fresh blood?

Oh nyo~

This is 6 months old blood

[worthy vortex]

not necessarily, i have a friend who might consider picking up the game

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

you should ask him what he wants to do in this game to temper his expectations

[hybrid pendant]

Hello, is karenina scire good and could u guys recommend any team with her. These are the characters i got

[dapper skiff]

Still in pinned message

[dapper skiff]

Astral, rozen and scire

[cerulean grotto]

@dapper skiff time to shine

[livid lark]

very good start for your dark team
for now you can run with astral and rozen

[cerulean grotto]

[hybrid pendant]

Oh ic, ty 😌

[hybrid pendant]

Tysm 😌

[cerulean grotto]

Personally I feel that all newbie accounts are not salvageable at all, especially post balter patch

[livid lark]

i mean, you need to start somewhere

[worthy vortex]

i feel like, if you're just starting, Phys would be good to invest in: run dorm for Echo, use the standard banner picker on Stigmata, and use one of the selectors for Rosetta

[cerulean grotto]

That's why I stopped helping except for specific advices

[dapper skiff]

Most flexible team to use
Not that restricted to swap or necessary equipment and ofc easy to get

[cerulean grotto]

[hybrid pendant]

Also any character recommendation to choose from this??

[dapper skiff]

That sounds good

But focusing too much on a single element is bad idea

[cerulean grotto]

Lux

[dapper skiff]

Also that requires too much time especially getting alisa

[hybrid pendant]

Oh ic ty😌

[worthy vortex]

you could cope with Hanying until you get her

[dapper skiff]

You didn't cared since first place, suddenly hooked to it and instantly regretting it

[river nymph]

[hybrid pendant]

[cerulean grotto]

I used to help a lot

[dapper skiff]

But needing to get stigmata from standard selector still going to take you waiting for the next month

[cerulean grotto]

Going so far as to specifically helping ppl in dms in great detail about their accounts

[dapper skiff]

And you have pretty much nothing to use until that

[cerulean grotto]

[worthy vortex]

isnt it coming next week on patch?

[dapper skiff]

No

It's next patch after new update

[cerulean grotto]

Gen 2 just broke my motivation

[worthy vortex]

oh damn

[cerulean grotto]

They're simply too strong to miss

[river nymph]

same

[worthy vortex]

Lamia patch?

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Also crimson weave is simply just way better pick than stigmata for standard selector

Pretty much the only needed character to carry your lightning content

[cerulean grotto]

Get both from anni

[dapper skiff]

In the meantime you can just use rigor and alisa for physical content

Better than going all out physical and have absolutely nothing on lighting

Quantity over quality

[cerulean grotto]

Anyone streaming stronghold?

[dapper skiff]

No

[cerulean grotto]

Or else I go now

[dapper skiff]

U want to see my PowerPoint presentation in voice chat perhaps?

[cerulean grotto]

No

[dapper skiff]

Good then

[worthy vortex]

who fills in for Stigmata in that case?

[cerulean grotto]

@dapper skiff goodbye

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Any physical unit works

It DOES NOT have to be stigmata

For you to have a decent physical team

[worthy vortex]

i see

[dapper skiff]

It's not about what's optimal or the best

It's about whichever spot you can fill without wasting too much resources as new players that absolutely have nothing

By following this mindset, you are pretty much better than any casual player by default

Even if they're whales

[livid lark]

i didn't know that a lot of whales do that

[worthy vortex]

that being said, my fire team is ass rn

[umbral harbor]

Hey, can someone tell me how to use Joe's signature move?

[livid lark]

who?

[umbral harbor]

Joe mama!

[dapper skiff]

Oh you really going to be surprised how many whales or simply skill issued players is gatekept by the wz rework

[livid lark]

ahhh ok the CW simps kekw

[dapper skiff]

[river nymph]

like me

[livid lark]

has anyone complained that their sss cw doesn't work outside of lightning wz?

i havent seen anyone make noise about that

[dapper skiff]

They already quit

[sharp jasper]

Wait wz got reworked?

[livid lark]

yea

didn't you know?

just dropped this patch

[dapper skiff]

Got sent to vanguard already damaged their cw mentality enough to make them drop the game

[sharp jasper]

No, I only know that lighting wz make u get the buff in switch and that's it

[dapper skiff]

Or simply they don't bother wz since the first place

[livid lark]

if you run off element teams in wz (a lightning team in ice for example), your final score takes a hit with penalty

[dapper skiff]

Sss rank astrals solo scores better than full crimson weave lightning team in dark zone

[livid lark]

i dont remember the exact multiplier but it's a lot

[dapper skiff]

Literally outplayed by an A rank

[sharp jasper]

I see, I presume that the penalty increases by each individual character that's off element

[worthy vortex]

my fire team is gen1, if i swap ember with CW, how bad will it be?

[livid lark]

and you run that team in fire wz?

[worthy vortex]

well yes

the penalty hits hard

[livid lark]

iirc people running off elem would get 300-400k final score compared to correct element which is like 800k-1m

or smth like that idk the actual calculations

but yea i do know that the gap is much

[worthy vortex]

even at mid investment?

[digital moat]

It's hard to say something general honestly

[livid lark]

yes
doesn't matter how good your investment is
if you run off element your score will take a hit

[worthy vortex]

my CW is currently SS with sig

[livid lark]

i mean you can try it yourself
won't hurt your savings
but just take note of your score and compare it with other people in your bracket

[jaunty beacon]

They already complained 3 weeks ago

[digital moat]

But looking at the multipliers currently on ele gets 1.3x dmg buff while off ele gets 0.3x

Which used to be 2x on ele and 1x off ele

[livid lark]

must be the minority then that malded

because i didn't see anything when patch dropped

[worthy vortex]

hmm lemme check

[digital moat]

Then the mobs' defensive attributes were also buffed iirc

[worthy vortex]

is garnet leap coming this patch?

[livid lark]

i think it's lamia?

[worthy vortex]

oh

[zenith thorn]

no

[digital moat]

No its on qu patch

[worthy vortex]

oof

[zenith thorn]

qu iirc

[jaunty beacon]

Wasn't it veritrash ?

[livid lark]

oh qu my bad

[zenith thorn]

verity on brs

[dapper skiff]

That's not how it works

It simply punishes any dmg that isn't featured in that zone and decreased it massively

[zenith thorn]

imagine if the calc were like uniframes

[dapper skiff]

Giving the actual advantage for any team with that elements

Not letting anyone to simply use their strongest unit to clear every content with ease

[sharp jasper]

Hey, atleast off element support works ig idk, maybe?

[worthy vortex]

okay, so my gen 1 fire team currently does slmost 340k in WZ. lets see what happens when i switch out some of the characters

[dapper skiff]

If you aren't swapping to them
technically

[livid lark]

i guess if the unit doesn't go onfield?

[dapper skiff]

But what's really the point with off elements support when you have each elements support available in the gane

Or are you purposely avoid to build all of them?

[sharp jasper]

True true, but I could easily imagine new players just absolutely suffering

[worthy vortex]

i mean, if you're just using them to heal, does it really matter? isnt that the point of Lumi?

[livid lark]

i mean it's not like it changed prior to this

[dapper skiff]

They always has been suffering

[zenith thorn]

beginner can just cope dark for all teams

[livid lark]

it's just that the effects are a lot more apparent now

[sharp jasper]

I've got almost everything built so I'm fine

[dapper skiff]

Like that's not even a new thing

[zenith thorn]

since their priority is bc,not ranking first

[livid lark]

shouldn't even be thinking about ranking when your teams are still being built

[dapper skiff]

Not day 1 players are simply going to start the game rough

That just how it works

It's like common sense

[livid lark]

i remember having to cope with leaped dawn until CW came out

that was at least 6 months

[zenith thorn]

i coped with ss 5* tempest
i was lazy to build dawn

[sharp jasper]

Oh, I remember having to build the nier team (I first got to the game and played it seriously) having to go to the games farming stage and not the event stage

[dapper skiff]

Newbies goal in competitive is literally trying your best to cover everything as much as you could efficiently to potentially beat any casual veterans player

It really just that

[sharp jasper]

And took like 3 patches or so to fully build them

[dapper skiff]

If you want more, spending gonna be needed

[livid lark]

has there been new players that have actually beaten vets?

im curious if that has happened before

[river nymph]

me

[livid lark]

as in not smurfs but actual new people

[sharp jasper]

Old simulated siege

[arctic laurel]

Good morning

[sharp jasper]

No

[river nymph]

[raw swift]

[dapper skiff]

Like what

Serious veterans like us?
Nah

[jaunty beacon]

Filthy whale 🏃‍♂️

[livid lark]

no ofc not

i meant the casuls

if it's up against people like us then obv not

[dapper skiff]

Semi casual veterans are ones that's easily beated by new players

Or simply casual guy

[livid lark]

the ones who come back for a major patch and are not seen for the next 4-5 patches

[jaunty beacon]

I mean. The majority of the player base is just playing casually with learning how the game works

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

fair enuf

[jaunty beacon]

So it'll happen

[dapper skiff]

Knowing how to properly invest your account probably makes you better than like 60 or 70% players in the game at best

[sharp jasper]

Btw, how exactly do u rotate with physical team and Alisa? I have a scuffed Balter and Rosetta team with no luminance so idk

[cerulean grotto]

Wanna see something ancient chat?
#💬・pgr-general message

[digital moat]

You can try 1.5 rots

[rose yew]

wdym by scuffef
no sig weapon?

[dapper skiff]

Team rotation will be seen as soon as she's out

For now there's not much we can do than theorycrafting

[arctic laurel]

I mean it’s quite easy to know how to rot with alisa

[sharp jasper]

I meant like my team is basically Balter, Rosetta and hanying sooo

[arctic laurel]

Even ezra figured it out

[cerulean grotto]

[digital moat]

Ranks weapons?

[rose yew]

generally just keeping every member rotation under 10s will suffice

[digital moat]

That's what the rot depends on

[sharp jasper]

Sig Balter and Rosetta both ss and hanying using 5* and S

[digital moat]

Planning to get alisa wep?

[livid lark]

will likely be 1.5 as well

[sharp jasper]

I've only ever rotate with Balter and Rosetta so the 3d slot is da Vinci

[rose yew]

shouldn't be that much different in rotation then
Alisa also holds davinci

[digital moat]

Okay that's good

4signa 4dv alisa

Since physical rot is pretty wack more often than not

It also depends the wz rot

[livid lark]

the 1.5 rot is kinda jank tho ngl

or any .5

[digital moat]

But you can try 1.5rots with balter

[digital moat]

It's easier to managed from my experience

[sharp jasper]

What's a 1.5 rot?

[dapper skiff]

That dude spends more time in discord than with his parents in total

[cerulean grotto]

1.5 with ss kinda fked up

[dapper skiff]

And probably still sht with it in war zone

[digital moat]

Like you finish off a wave and immediately balter ult

[livid lark]

so you know how balter has 2 ults?

[arctic laurel]

Lmaoo

[cerulean grotto]

Oh you're there huh

[arctic laurel]

Discord god

[sharp jasper]

Yeah

[dapper skiff]

Wdym fcked up

[arctic laurel]

Ezra is a discord god

[livid lark]

you do your rotation to ult 2 for the first rotation and then you do it again up to right before you activate ult 2 again and swap to rosetta

[cerulean grotto]

Bro what you gonna do with 40 stacks

[livid lark]

so you're basically leaving her energy bar filled for when she drops in again

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

Who says we ever consider s balt

S balt is nonexistent since the first place

[rose yew]

how to enter phase 1 balter ult for the second time without matrix tho

[dapper skiff]

[sharp jasper]

Ah basically ult 1 > do stuff > ult 2 > Dodge > ult 1 > charge ult energy > switch out

[livid lark]

correct

[quiet lily]

get ss3 and dlt

[rose yew]

I thought ss3 was 2/2.5

[sharp jasper]

I presume do Rosetta leap next then some stuff with Alisa and instant Balter ult, then what?

[dapper skiff]

What he can do with s balt is pretty much do normal balter rotation and keep the ult for the next rot only

Rinse and repeat to the next rot until run done

[rose yew]

I do balter>luminance>rosetta rotation in warzone

[livid lark]

it's usually lumi start -> balter 1.5 -> rosie ult -> lumi ult -> balter ult -> repeat 1.5 rot

[dapper skiff]

Yeah
Nah

[zenith thorn]

criminal

[dapper skiff]

That's ss rot

[livid lark]

but the guy has ss0 tho

[dapper skiff]

You would never expect how cope is s balt rot

[livid lark]

not talking about s0

[rose yew]

S balt just 1 rot

[sharp jasper]

I got ss sooo...

[livid lark]

wasnt even a consideration

[dapper skiff]

Then i have no damn idea why this man says s0

[livid lark]

idk i didnt respond to that because i thought you guys were talking about smth else

[cerulean grotto]

He said s0

[sharp jasper]

Different topic maybe?

[peak halo]

S balt just not exist

[cerulean grotto]

Sorry I didn't see

Non existent

[dapper skiff]

Not even 1

Make it 0.9 rot

[sharp jasper]

It is what it is

[dapper skiff]

That's how i call it

[rose yew]

[livid lark]

bruh i didn't even mention the rank
i just defaulted to ss balter rotation

i wouldn't even consider s0 LOL

[rose yew]

anything below ss is just bricked
that goes for A base units too

[dapper skiff]

S balt truly nonexistent

[shy bane]

if i can only get a sig for 1 char, should i get for balter or alisha?

[livid lark]

alisa

[dapper skiff]

Alisa

[livid lark]

100%

[dapper skiff]

Balter sig isn't as big as you'd think

[rose yew]

why is physical team your first priority for sig weapon
do you really want to mald crit that badly

[dapper skiff]

I'd argue hyper sig is a better investment over balt sig

[sharp jasper]

Isn't Alisa sig memory make her team have like full crit uptime ir something

[dapper skiff]

[livid lark]

yes but the sig weapon allows for harmo and she needs dv for phys team to be better than with leaped lumi

[rose yew]

I thought that was garnet

[shy bane]

ah no just asking, cus phys will be the first team i complete i guess?

[rose yew]

hm fair
then yes alisa weapon is preferred

[livid lark]

if she doesn't have signa and dv then she's not a huge upgrade over lumi

and yes signa being the memo set name and not 'signature'

[cerulean grotto]

What were the average patch lengths of upcoming patches in cn?

[peak halo]

So if i offrate te wep i fckup

[cerulean grotto]

Offrate another bow trust

[quiet lily]

if u offrate, then u swipe for more

[sharp jasper]

Also didn't they change how the dv extra dmg (if I remember or something) only in effect when the qte character is in the field doing qte stuff?

[shy bane]

oki thank you

[livid lark]

that one isnt in your control tho
also i was talking about memory sets not the weapon

the signature memory set for Alisa is called 'Signa'

[rose yew]

any bow works for alisa tbh

15% sig move dmg buff + 16% shred is not bad at all

[peak halo]

I know
But can put 4pc 4pc on a 5*

[livid lark]

i actually have no idea if using bianca's phys bow for alisa would work

[rose yew]

no you can't harmo 5 star weapons

[livid lark]

harmo only works on 6*

[quiet lily]

[cerulean grotto]

Ngl, I actually have more than a 10% chance to get a useful sig from standard weapon banner

[rose yew]

I wish we could tho

[cerulean grotto]

I'd win, right?

[rose yew]

glory sig

[cerulean grotto]

Gun pointing at me like I'm playing Russian roulette

[rose yew]

now you can shred ice on qte

[cerulean grotto]

Already r1

[rose yew]

wadapak am I the only own with crippling ice team

[peak halo]

And i no have another bow
So
Cuz veritassless acc

[quiet lily]

its cus u don have kale

[cerulean grotto]

This will so not age well I'm telling y'all

[rose yew]

[livid lark]

well rip

[arctic laurel]

I only have Ayla Kaleido in my ice team

[sour merlin]

for a new player, what teams/characters should I prioritize getting first? Should I get the physical team first since I only need bianca stigmata or are there better teams?

[livid lark]

@dapper skiff

[cerulean grotto]

Meta or casual, what sort of player are you?

[rose yew]

the only dps I have for ice is plume

[sharp jasper]

Bambi, could work and just switch the Hanna set to plume if u ever get her ig

[sour merlin]

meta

[cerulean grotto]

@dapper skiff

[livid lark]

lmao we just default to him

[sharp jasper]

When the server needed him most, he vanished

[rose yew]

kurai helper role when

[cerulean grotto]

When you become a helper

[livid lark]

miku has to stop giving misinfo for her to be helper

[rose yew]

you got your first S rank from basic standard banner yet? best to work from whoever you got there

[arctic laurel]

You can get bianca stigmata in the anniversary patch where the rate up is at 100%

[digital moat]

yes

[peak halo]

I guess u only can be deserves is 🧱 role

[cerulean grotto]

Not like xeno doesn't misinfo

He's just here for the popcorns

Time to really do ppc huh

I HATE DSHARK

Machi is equally annoying

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

check pins

[sour merlin]

I heard you can select an s rank in the cradle parade patch so I'm saving up the currency for member target just for that, so in theory I could probably get two s ranks within the next month, so I'm wondering who to get

[dapper skiff]

Pop your first S pity first then you can save up for that thing after

[digital moat]

Enjoy watching him walking down the stairs

[dapper skiff]

The first s pity before cradle patch is still randomized

[cerulean grotto]

That's not even the issue

I get the distance wrong and mf jumps away

[digital moat]

He spawns at mars

[cerulean grotto]

[digital moat]

While you spawn at andromeda

[rose yew]

seems like a bad idea but I'm not too sure myself

[arctic laurel]

Ok so you can get bianca guaranteed there as well and try to save up your black cards for other meta units then

[livid lark]

he takes 8s to walk down those steps

[cerulean grotto]

Pull cw from anni banner trust

Also, get your beginner pity

That's like 4 s ranks with free selectors instantly

Then another 2 free s ranks from dorm

And another one from rdf

[arctic laurel]

@sour merlin but get your first s rank by pulling on standard banner if you haven’t yet

[cerulean grotto]

You're looking at 7 s ranks

Pgr is pretty generous for instantly providing a new player with 7 s ranks

But you see, new player = brick

[rose yew]

what happened to the guy that posted jinhsi with 2k atk and 11% crit rate stat?

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

he ran off lol

[cerulean grotto]

He got banned ig

[livid lark]

he got the server wrong

[rose yew]

o7

[livid lark]

the one with the red name?

[cerulean grotto]

I pinged jeremy twice in the morning

[rose yew]

yeah

[livid lark]

and the jiyan profile pic

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

yea i think he realised he was in the wrong place

[sour merlin]

ok, I think I'll pull bianca stigmata in the cradle parade s rank selector, then pull crimson weave in anni banner

[livid lark]

do take note of your bc savings as well
you need 15k for lamia

but if you have more than that you're pretty much good to do what you want

[cerulean grotto]

Technically, if you collect enough bc, you can pity anni banner twice

But save for lamia yeah

[livid lark]

does the anniversary patch give more than 10k?

[dapper skiff]

Don't

[livid lark]

idk cos i dont keep up with the numbers

[cerulean grotto]

Yes

[dapper skiff]

Even if he can pity anniv twice and afford lamia

[cerulean grotto]

Free 2.5k just like that

[digital moat]

It's probably gonna be similar to daren patch

[dapper skiff]

He will be tight on budget for back to back s

[cerulean grotto]

[jade rain]

All you need is 16,250 to secure character, sig and pet trust

[cerulean grotto]

Oh true

[jade rain]

[digital moat]

750

[cerulean grotto]

Will the game survive till shukra tho?

[digital moat]

[cerulean grotto]

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/saucer-swap-de-fi-sauce-gif-24323712

[arctic laurel]

Qu patch whale patch fr

[gentle quail]

can you stack Weapon R&D passes? I bought one a few weeks ago and the top up store says 0/1 again.

I thought that you can't stack stuff like MPA so thought it would be the same here.

[livid lark]

if you mean the tix then yes you can

it's its own currency apart from BC

[rose yew]

I'm not knowledgeable with these whale stuff

[gentle quail]

I mean the pass itself

[livid lark]

i dont know

i never tried

hmm
actually
i think it does work
i remember getting the character 1 per day for 10 days pack and another pack with a different period
and both of those came to my mailbox

so yea you may have to try it yourself to see

[quartz dove]

[quartz dove]

Same

[livid lark]

lies you filthy whel

"f2p+"

[quartz dove]

[gentle quail]

ok found it - #📨・meta-help message

[jade rain]

New roguelike

[livid lark]

owo

[jade rain]

Awakening Tundra

[livid lark]

didnt see this on the livestrim

im glad they are making new modes

[dapper skiff]

Who's the mc here

[stiff burrow]

hey

how many trade vouchers do i need to ss a char from s

(if the char is on voucher shop ofc)

[feral pollen]

30 shards

[livid lark]

16806 iirc

oh wait that's 20 shards

[stiff burrow]

Plus 10*1200 ig?

[livid lark]

25k

[stiff burrow]

So like 28k

[livid lark]

25209

because the 16k is for 20 shards

so divide by 2 and multiply by 3

[feral pollen]

lmao exchanging beyond discount

[livid lark]

this is with the discount tho

[cerulean grotto]

My mobile ded

[stiff burrow]

but it's with the discount

recommended to just wait for next reset ig?

[cerulean grotto]

Yes

[stiff burrow]

ogay

[livid lark]

is this for alisa?

[stiff burrow]

yea

[livid lark]

ahh ok
just get all 20 and then the final 10 with skulls

[stiff burrow]

ill have to mald with s for 18-ish days

hmm maybe

alisa still better than no lumi rn

[zealous sorrel]

For the next Patch where we can socket a 2-Pc in a Sig Weapon, is good to have Crimson Abyss Leap with 4-Pc Fredrick + 4-Pc Patton, right?

[digital moat]

@shadow holly

[livid lark]

[stiff burrow]

i thought it would be her sig 4pc + 4pc cottie

[cerulean grotto]

1mil ?

[digital moat]

Barely

[stiff burrow]

but im not sure about the other sets

[livid lark]

crimson abyss

[digital moat]

ss0 stigmata is rather ass to use sometimes xd

[zealous sorrel]

I know this for Crimson Weave, not Crimson Abyss. XD

[stiff burrow]

my bad

[livid lark]

you do know that harmo mats are going to be scarce right?

[stiff burrow]

i assumed cw yeah

[zealous sorrel]

I can handle it.

[livid lark]

not like you can just harmo everything on the first go

[stiff burrow]

stigmata-less behavior

[livid lark]

that's a moment but ok you do you

[zealous sorrel]

Yep...

[stiff burrow]

what is harmo priority after alisa

[livid lark]

gen 2 first i would say

[stiff burrow]

attackers?

[livid lark]

so lamia, epitaph

[feral pollen]

attackers first

except lee

[livid lark]

yea CW as well
balter

[stiff burrow]

ive given up on lee ngl

[livid lark]

if you have ss3 hyperreal it's good as well

cos shakespere

[stiff burrow]

it's too depressing to do anything with him

[stiff burrow]

where do cw and balter fit in here

there's ice qu too

[livid lark]

honestly tho, all of them have kinda equalish priority

the newer gen 2s I mean

[dapper skiff]

Wutdahel

Slapping harmo upgrade on both Rosetta and alisa instead of directly giving crimson abyss leap is gonna be better tbh

Ca can barely benefit the 2 more additional mem slot

Patton is sht
Both 2pc and 4pc

4 fred and 2 darwin is pretty much the best it could have

[livid lark]

patton dead until qu patch

[dapper skiff]

Anything aside that is like really mid or just barely works

[zealous sorrel]

Alright, then.

At least I don't need to trouble myself with adjusting my Memories.

[livid lark]

you wouldn't need to adjust your memories anyway even if you decided to harmo your CA weapon

from what some of the guys who know about harmo more, you only need the harmo mats to get the memory onto the sig weapon

you dont need to buy extra memories for them

[zealous sorrel]

I am aware of the Mechanics.

It just provides the Set Bonuses of certain Memories onto the Sig Weapons.

Now to my original Question, is 4-Pc Fredrick + 4-Pc Patton OK, even if I have to wait for another Patch for it to work better?

[livid lark]

you would need to wait until another 4 patches later for patton to be good

[dapper skiff]

I mean it's alright

[zealous sorrel]

4...

Crap...

[stiff burrow]

actually speaking of lamia, is she field-time heavy like luna?

[dapper skiff]

But then by the time you can finally use 4 fred 4 patton, S hanying already debuts

[livid lark]

yea the rework isn't just here yet

[dapper skiff]

And it just better to use her as main dps

[livid lark]

that i do not know

[stiff burrow]

i remember someone saying that or something along those lines

[zealous sorrel]

Man, I thought that was on Alisa's Patch.

Dammit... XD

[livid lark]

no there's still some way to go before then

[dapper skiff]

Wdym fieldtime heavy?

I just heard that's a thing

[livid lark]

I think they mean onfield lamia

[stiff burrow]

i mean it's her + 2 qte slaves

[quiet lily]

If u dont have ss3 daren and sss capri, u solo

[stiff burrow]

yeah bad phrasing

[dapper skiff]

Swapping and not?

[zealous sorrel]

He meant if she need to stay On-Field for much longer for a good DMG Setup.

"Selfish DPS", in other words.

[dapper skiff]

*sa3 sig daren only btw

[stiff burrow]

yeah ok that's not happening

[dapper skiff]

5* s0 capri still going to work as swap bot as long as you own ss3 sig daren

[quiet lily]

Kek why tf u ss3 daren without sig

[dapper skiff]

Amp class is still too big to be missed

[stiff burrow]

im not in a position to go above ss on any unit as of now

[dapper skiff]

U forgor how she's voucherable

[livid lark]

would get daren if you can anyway because of the leap and the ability to work with bathlon post qu

and she getting a leap in the future

[stiff burrow]

im in dire need of ice dps especially

[dapper skiff]

People have rights to say ss3 daren now because it's technically free

[quiet lily]

Oh damn ure right, forgot that she got leap

[dapper skiff]

[stiff burrow]

what

[livid lark]

you dont know she getting a leap?

[zealous sorrel]

Ah, we went far enough into the Game to see Gen 2s have Leaps, eh? XD

[arctic laurel]

I saw a video where Alisa Echo actually make more damage than her in CN server

[livid lark]

i mean, balter has a leap now and CW wil be getting one soon

[stiff burrow]

i misread the statement

i thought he said ss3 daren is free

i wish

[livid lark]

oh lol
it technically is but you need vouchers

[zealous sorrel]

"Daren" was even the first Unit we have that has the Evolve Node Buff System.

[quiet lily]

Technically free

[stiff burrow]

how many shards does ss3 take

[arctic laurel]

It’s overpriced as hell though

[livid lark]

40 from s0

so 2 months of vouchers

[stiff burrow]

and s0 itself is 50 vouchers

[zealous sorrel]

3 Copies, pretty much.

[rose yew]

fire lucia on global now

[quiet lily]

Isnt it like 57 shards? S to ss3

[arctic laurel]

Misinfo

[quiet lily]

30+27

[arctic laurel]

Yes it is

It takes 9 shards after SS

[livid lark]

yes if it's from not having the unit at all

[zealous sorrel]

Yeah, like me... XD

[livid lark]

did you skip units?

[zealous sorrel]

Yes but for Daren, I messed up my Resources so was not able to get her, let alone have enough to SS3 + Sig her. XD

[livid lark]

oh alright
fair enough

[dapper skiff]

Daren debut was like exactly on 2nd anniversary like alisa rn

[livid lark]

understandable if you had to take a break or just couldn't touch the game for any reason

[dapper skiff]

Daren Skipping was really strong that time

[livid lark]

all of the opinions tho

[digital moat]

It's kinda dependant on invest

[dapper skiff]

[digital moat]

• alisa can't do more than 1 rot

[livid lark]

that was crazy
that taught me to not blindly take the advice of anyone on here

[digital moat]

[zealous sorrel]

I know my fate.

I am a Bricked Commander.

I just play for enjoyment, not Competitiveness.

I'll just do that on Brawl Events. XD

[livid lark]

i regretted not pulling for daren after hearing about the qu changes

[livid lark]

i mean sure you can do that but you do miss out on a lot of rewards

[zealous sorrel]

No, worse.

I pulled for Uniframe nonesense. XD

[zealous sorrel]

I mean, when it comes to Babel Towers, I can score 900+ Points with my Teams.

For Norman Plans, yeah, I really wanted to even step foot in Cloud Island... XD

[stiff burrow]

I thought it was chill till I saw this

[livid lark]

just unnecessary bad decisions

[quiet lily]

does alisa need 12ht? is her dmg really doing big numbers?

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-hallway-scene-homelander-scene-phone-gif-26272083

[zealous sorrel]

Again, I knew my fate. XD

[livid lark]

well at least you're aware

unlike some people who ignorantly deny that they made the bad decision

[zealous sorrel]

Yeah.

I mean, I am not entirely dumb.

I just chose the hard life.

I mean, I still use Kamui Bastion up until now. XD

... as one of my 3 Physical Teams. XD

[dapper skiff]

No lmao