📨・meta-help

[thorn creek]

Phys cuz also get free phys amp Alisa next week

[shadow holly]

yeah ice is very cheap too but for optimal performance you kinda need sig on ur tank because without sig neither Changyu nor Glory can apply their in-kit shred on qte - so the only shred you have is Einsteina shred and tank class passive shred

[livid lark]

cope until wanshi

[glass bay]

@shadow holly someone was hating on jinhsi in offtopic. i found myself defending her

[shadow holly]

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

ah oh this guy

[livid lark]

i still can't stand her ring twintails

[shadow holly]

I've never heard anything smart from him anyway

[gentle quail]

I see. I saw a vid with r2 off ele amp for lamia so was wondering if I could just skip farming for SSS rozen and do what this guy did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdxFqw239Ww

[livid lark]

that hairstyle has bambi vibes and I do not like it

[glass bay]

makes sense

[desert berry]

With ice team, is it okay to run them at S?

[thorn creek]

Lemme guess encore/verina enjoyer?

[livid lark]

you would want to get ss0 if you can
kaleido's s0 is free and the rest you can get with vouchers and skulls

[shadow holly]

I mean like look it's pretty easy
SSS Rozen provides 20% dark buff on QTE
r2 off ele amp provides 8% ATK total and 10% ATK on QTE
18% atk total
I guess the main benefit of Alisa here is that she has double heal tick on QTE so can proc 4guin on each qte and that might cause her to pull ahead of rozen

[shadow holly]

get Kaleido to SS with vouchers at least and u gucci

[shadow holly]

but yeah ofc it's playable at S

just far from optimal because Kaleido gets huge benefits from swap play at SS

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

also take care that she needs to use Cottie as primary 2p at base S because she doesn't get the big chunk of energy on swap from SS

[barren plank]

Stolen

[desert berry]

What about lightnight team with crismon weave? Do you need her team at SSS too or S is fine?

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

there's no team that requires sss

[gentle quail]

right. Thanks -

I guess since alisa here is harmo'd, you get another 15% ele from 4 piece guin over non harmo'd rozen

[river nymph]

surely

[livid lark]

whoever is telling you that doesnt know how tplay the gme

[barren plank]

Usually SS+sig is fine

[river nymph]

true ong

[livid lark]

ss0 and ss3 at most and you're fine

[desert berry]

Alright thanks yall

[livid lark]

if you're going for sss0 it's for funsies or you just want to always be on top

that being said, some units perform the most optimally at sss0

it's more for comfort than anything

[shadow holly]

SS for CW highly preferred at baseline
you can assume all chars only become decent at SS because it's free from PPC skulls
so rank upgrades are made with that in mind, SS being the competitive/comfortable baseline

[winter scarab]

Finally finished all interludes

[thorn creek]

But did u get everyone’s hidden story?

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

if you see us complain about ss0 not being enough it's just because we want those few extra seconds
not that the unit is actually unplayable

[winter scarab]

Most of them

[river nymph]

ek spitting straight facts

[shadow holly]

this is the only truth

[river nymph]

whels be like

[thorn creek]

Whel language

[winter scarab]

I bet a whale made this

[shadow holly]

yea cuz our guild is whale violence

smh f2ps never safe here

[livid lark]

lmao

f2ps got no human rights

[river nymph]

[winter scarab]

Someone in my guild have all characters sss

[thorn creek]

[shadow holly]

rookie numbers
all S+ where

[lethal sun]

S+ scire is borderline playable tho

[winter scarab]

Or most Dont remember

[lethal sun]

No joke

[river nymph]

but at least we have our dignity

[shadow holly]

yeah actually
wtf
SSS3 Scire can do 4x3 but doesn't get enough orbs to do it right away
need S+
actual brick

[remote pier]

our?

[winter scarab]

Nah s+ is so much

[river nymph]

fr

[livid lark]

what dignity? I only see pain

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[thorn creek]

Gacha players have no rights

[river nymph]

[stuck sphinx]

you're forgetting amp passive

[shadow holly]

I mean
he wouldn't be swapping without Capri

[winter scarab]

So sss rozan is good or no?

[shadow holly]

it would only matter a bit in ppc

[stuck sphinx]

yeah

ppc > wz

[thorn creek]

Budget team yes

Ultimate ppc no

[stuck sphinx]

wdym? shes still used in ult

[winter scarab]

I won't enter ultimate till i have 3 full meta teams

[livid lark]

make sure you don't skip any unit

[buoyant beacon]

maybe stupid question. do patch release S ranks come with their weapon, or is the weapon in a different banner (and also whats the avg amount to get the weapon)

[livid lark]

yes they always do

and the weapon will be in the weapon banner forever

[thorn creek]

Comes together in separate banners

[livid lark]

weapon banner has no time limit

[winter scarab]

5k if you're lucky but it's 7.5k average

[thorn creek]

Weapon banner is separate

30 pulls to pity

[livid lark]

you can also get the weapon within a 10 pull

[thorn creek]

80% chance

[livid lark]

but offrates exist

[winter scarab]

I experienced offrate one time

Got bricked after that

[thorn creek]

Changwho sig?

[winter scarab]

Lmao no

Hard pity for feral

And lost the 70% for hyperlee

[stuck sphinx]

[thorn creek]

Never pull 70% banners

[remote pier]

[thorn creek]

The rate is a lie

[winter scarab]

I'll tell you what happened

[frozen creek]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[thorn creek]

🍿

[river nymph]

[winter scarab]

I started the game and pulled one time on gate and got cw after that it was the big booba dancer patch so no pulling

I wasn't gonna pull but in that patch hyperlle got added in rdf

I played with him one time and then went to the 70% banner

My gacha addiction won

But i didn't

[shadow holly]

[thorn creek]

Oof

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-gif-23345354

[shadow holly]

hypercucked

[thorn creek]

First of all

Never do that again

Second, don’t ever go near a casino

[deft apex]

Third, 99% of gamblers quit before winning big

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-27586086

[thorn creek]

@winter scarab at age 60

[winter scarab]

Nah i would be ded by then

I'll be kild by Debt collectors

[thorn creek]

Keep ur expectations low and you’ll never be disappointed

[winter scarab]

And the funny thing i already upgraded wata for dark team

And got luna

[glass bay]

Adv ppc is slacc af

[glass bay]

Big booba dancer wtf

Also didn't we have a 1 hour convo about Lucias buttcrack earlier today

[thorn creek]

Verdict?

[winter scarab]

I wasn't im it

[glass bay]

I have no idea I saw parts of it only

[thorn creek]

[river nymph]

[desert crater]

Does anyone have a picture of future meta characters to pull for

I used to have one but it was only up to like crimson abyss iirc

[river nymph]

[thorn creek]

Great ravens website shows all future S ranks

[desert crater]

But does it tell the recommended ones

[shadow holly]

all of them duh

[thorn creek]

They’re all recommended tbh

[desert crater]

Cuz im the type of person to max a uniframe as an f2p

[shadow holly]

[desert crater]

🥹

[thorn creek]

Don’t invest in untamed

Uniframe*

They’re a lost cause

[shadow holly]

then u gotta choose
either stay on the path of maxing uniframes f2p
or just get every new S rank if you want to stay competitive

[desert crater]

Months late hicma is already sss

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/blooprint-brick-rust-gif-26443262

[desert crater]

Alright so all the future characters are good right

[desert crater]

Ty 😳

I'm looking cute ngl

Alright good night everyone imma Finna try fixing this sleep schedule

[shadow holly]

gn brother

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

No

[dapper skiff]

Actually no
Hoe tf did i mixed it up

[desert crater]

Ping

Tf

[paper bone]

you pull every upcoming s rank

[paper bone]

unless you dont want to then by all means go ahead

[dapper skiff]

There u go

[paper bone]

make my life easier and yours harder

[desert crater]

Ty :D

[paper bone]

watch him pull alisa and wanshi now

[desert crater]

That list helps too

[desert crater]

I'd pull a uniframe if they look good enough

[paper bone]

noway bros making my life easier

[desert crater]

[livid lark]

blud is being kind by letting his rank go lower

and being our stepping stones for more rewards

[desert crater]

Tbh I'm just asking for a friend i Uninstalled the game eons ago

Downloaded wuthering waves

Stuff is barely running

[livid lark]

fair enough

[frozen creek]

This is a reminder to all members, read closely, if we see anyone playing WUTHERING WAVES we will take that as your resignation from the crew and you will be removed from this server, you are here to play Punishing: Gray Raven - we will not tolerate our members playing other games, we will also assume if you post out during the first few months of WUTHERING WAVES that you are playing it behind our backs and will be swiftly removed, this is NOT up for debate, any question or concerns involving this can be brought up to a lead but again, we will assume you will be leaving us for WUTHERING WAVES. If you do bring up any issues with this and will also be removed, so tread CAREFULLY, thank you!

[livid lark]

how dare you play a game that you like?

[frozen creek]

exactly

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

😭

[remote pier]

blue balls luna

her wings gone?

[livid lark]

well it is a swimsuit coating

the wings would probably get in the way

[paper bone]

would

[glass bay]

[glass bay]

[paper bone]

chat is this rizz

[glass bay]

This is echo pickers have no rights

Only wrongs

[livid lark]

but I am an echo picker tho

I do have rights because I said so

[shadow holly]

nuh uh

[glass bay]

Shut ur mouth dirty echo picker

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

no u

[shadow holly]

nah bigger echo picker can sht on others

[glass bay]

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/alisa-echo-punishing-gray-ravens-alisa-pgr-echo-pgr-pgr-gif-15505213938584857120

the only echo im picking^

[glass bay]

U pick more echoes means u cna sht on others?

[livid lark]

eew you pick echoes?

my echo inventory is maxed

[frozen creek]

k whel

[livid lark]

I have a right to sht on all of y'all

[glass bay]

This means u are banned

RIPbozo

[livid lark]

[steady otter]

omg jinhsi new costume

https://tenor.com/view/hello-street-cat-cat-eating-mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-gif-14177870508069223203

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-cat-cat-feeder-cat-feeder-camera-cat-camera-gif-1435288208602596413

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-cat-demiaowa-hello-street-cat-gif-4997085248640774758

[river nymph]

imagine obilivion in ww world

one signature clears the map

[livid lark]

one signature is able to farm echoes within an area in 5 minutes

[glass bay]

Luna > jinhsi

Easy clear @shadow holly

[shadow holly]

bro rly pinging me just to annoy

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-party-gif-11781022180037669995

[glass bay]

To speak truth

[shadow holly]

ur thoughts on zhezhi

[glass bay]

If healer she is meta pull

[shadow holly]

ye

[glass bay]

But I don't like to be forced like that

[shadow holly]

so I'll pull her anyway

imo she kinda cute too so that's a win

I don't need wuwa Lee

[glass bay]

Let's see...

[livid lark]

she got the glasses

[glass bay]

No leaderboard so it's not critical

[livid lark]

important thing is to clear tower and events

[analog cargo]

any problems with it?

[livid lark]

no I'm just saying

[glass bay]

Yea there is no benefit to faster clear

[livid lark]

😠

[analog cargo]

good

cuz i wear glasses

[glass bay]

Especially if u hate the char or playstyle

[livid lark]

I wear it as well

[shadow holly]

there is benefit for more comfortable clear

no need to use baizhi with her cancer orb pickup and slow ass concerto gen

[analog cargo]

astigmatism and myopia

[livid lark]

[glass bay]

I dno man i don't like jiyan s6

[analog cargo]

[glass bay]

I will never get something like that

[livid lark]

why would you get s6

[dapper skiff]

Wife

[livid lark]

it's not necessary

[analog cargo]

[livid lark]

i have jiyan and his wep

[glass bay]

Just saying comfy but to certain extent

[livid lark]

fair enuf

changli is staring at my wallet

[glass bay]

Need to have fun playing as long as u can clear

[livid lark]

she calling it out

asking me to hand it over
i'm cooked

[thorn creek]

🙏

[shadow holly]

I think metaslaving for competitiveness in PGR killed my ability to enjoy chars gameplay wise
at least partly

[frozen creek]

pull alisa sig or brick

[shadow holly]

not like I mind it that much cuz I can still enjoy their design n other stuff

[livid lark]

I would quit actually if I could but then I would not be able to return to the game

because I would have to start farming again and waiting for meta

[river nymph]

yeah same, even in casual modes i just do meta rotations

[glass bay]

My jinhsi is lvl 30 because I wana play calc team first

[shadow holly]

but I'm just saying that
I'm enjoying PGR a lot still and all other gachas I play
which is wuwa and Arknights

[glass bay]

Aren't u mintpicker as well

[shadow holly]

and I guess when AK endfield comes I'll play it too

4 sounds a bit too many

[livid lark]

how do you have time for so many

[shadow holly]

but I'm not planning to drop any one of them

[livid lark]

I can't see myself playing more than 2 at a time

and even with these 2 I'm like trying to do minimum at best

[shadow holly]

I thought the same but wuwa for example didn't rly have any impact on my free time

[thorn creek]

Me playing 4 gacha

[livid lark]

fair enuf

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/bf4qD.gif

[shadow holly]

rude

[sand laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1093653608966402048.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[shadow holly]

pantsu u whel where is ur nitro

[glass bay]

Simply get ppl to pilot for u

[thorn creek]

Only spend on two: arknights and PGR.
F2P NIKKE and Wuwa

[glass bay]

Problem solved

[livid lark]

I dont feel comfortable letting people pilot

[sand laurel]

I don't like where is discord heading

[analog cargo]

i have no enjoyment of this game for the last year

[glass bay]

Of pgr?

[analog cargo]

yep

[thorn creek]

Y?

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

it's the same thing over and over

[glass bay]

Leaderboards messing with us

[livid lark]

ppc and wz

[analog cargo]

i play since launch,i piloted a lot of accs,and i played cn

[raw swift]

what the sigma

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/ELW6.gif

[glass bay]

Tbh if lb didn't exist, would u still play the same way?

[sand laurel]

touch ocean

[analog cargo]

so new chars arent rly that new for me,so its not exciting

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

[thorn creek]

Then take a break

[analog cargo]

i did sometimes

[thorn creek]

Come back like a week or two

[sand laurel]

yeah seeing into the future spoils the fun, now imagine being immortal

[thorn creek]

Oh welp

[analog cargo]

not seeing

just actualy being able to play it

it was fun clearly,but i have no expectations to play them in global

[sand laurel]

🙈

[livid lark]

hard to do if you dont have spare BC tho

that's why if I'm going to not play the game I'd rather just drop it entirely

[glass bay]

Yuri is whel

[analog cargo]

i played till lamia

so i havet o wait

[glass bay]

What spare bc

[sand laurel]

why this much?

[thorn creek]

Still, hard to play a game if u don’t enjoy it, why bother

[analog cargo]

wanted to help friends,guild

and as much burnout i am from the game

i still love it

[sand laurel]

[analog cargo]

i did whole reciantivo

3 times

to get full 50 shards

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/bYI2G.gif

[remote pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/668740847021326368/1000680913807605781/690981656005443585.gif

[analog cargo]

i buy bp and monthly

[pine slate]

Didn't know Yuri was into self torture

[analog cargo]

itsd fun

[ashen edge]

[analog cargo]

like rn i pilot someone wz

during expedition i piloted like over 10 people

[pine slate]

[sand laurel]

are you paid or something

[analog cargo]

paid

[sand laurel]

sounds like job

[analog cargo]

if i was paid i woudnt feel as bad

i only ever got 1 600 rc

[shadow holly]

free pilots

should have more self worth
even if u like helping

[sand laurel]

well, sounds like you let hell get on top of you

[livid lark]

I still like some of the animations and characters

[analog cargo]

i think its cringe to ask people to pay u

for piloting

[livid lark]

otherwise I would have dropped the game long ago

[glass bay]

I have ppl piloting for free

But they have no obligation

[shadow holly]

I guess depends on how much piloting ur doing

[glass bay]

If u get paid u are obligated

[sand laurel]

idk, time is so valuable...

[thorn creek]

Don’t do stuff ur good at for free

[shadow holly]

if it's smth minor like sure

[analog cargo]

like i pilot shuen for some time now

[pine slate]

I mean

[analog cargo]

i dont get paid for u

what i wanted is just to be able to play high rank chars

[pine slate]

[analog cargo]

i did taht with a lot of s+ accs

[sand laurel]

I refused to play for friends multiple times...

#recipetoburnout

[pine slate]

Same I never pilot

[analog cargo]

i dont think am good at pgr

[pine slate]

I don't like playing 2 accounts in 1 game

[glass bay]

Think about it

If u get paid it means u must try hard on pilot

[shadow holly]

I would love to pilot a bit to just try out high invest teams but I wouldn't spend too much time on it

[thorn creek]

Well u still got paid, so I’d assume you are doing well

[glass bay]

If u don't get paid u can play whenever u like

[analog cargo]

people in genral are just bad

i just oneshot shuen scores

[pine slate]

[thorn creek]

Dats true

[sand laurel]

god gamers not playing gacha games?

[thorn creek]

Still ur playing and earning cash

[analog cargo]

u guys would be impressed if u knew

how many of the top players accs

are piloted

[ashen edge]

[thorn creek]

I’m playing as a clown for free🤡

[sand laurel]

is this NA thing?

[ashen edge]

no

[analog cargo]

no

[ashen edge]

also sea thing too

[sand laurel]

EU is probably baren land

[woven sable]

imagine getting piloted

[glass bay]

Yurilao will u pilot us

[analog cargo]

ye imagine

[shadow holly]

he doesn't know

[sand laurel]

what?

[analog cargo]

whats ur acc invest

[ashen edge]

im also pilot exalt leader acc for roughly 2 year

[pine slate]

Does Jeremy even still play his acc?

[sand laurel]

I did not step into EX PPC yet

[woven sable]

yuri pilot me

[glass bay]

I am F2p no rights

[analog cargo]

maybe

[sand laurel]

only lefts

[shadow holly]

well depends on what u mean by barrenland ig

[analog cargo]

if u pay me some rc sure

[woven sable]

[analog cargo]

cuz at this point am just getting burned out so much

and i dont think i can top up pgr anymore

[woven sable]

rip

[glass bay]

Time to go echo picking

[sand laurel]

stayed in fire for too long

[analog cargo]

like spending in pgr at this point

is just purely to supportk uro

cuz its not competetive anymore

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/kDiYBL6dpDc.gif

[analog cargo]

majority of good players either dont try much or quit

[pine slate]

Back to hoyoland

[thorn creek]

Treat urself once in a while

[analog cargo]

ww is fun

[thorn creek]

Build a pc or something new

[shadow holly]

it's rly sad when chat gets to this theme
mainly cuz I still enjoy the game and while I can understand what people are feeling
I can't relate
so I just sit here

[pine slate]

Honestly I should stop playing gachas most of the time and start elden ring dlc

[analog cargo]

how long do u play

[shadow holly]

like
less than 1.5 years

[livid lark]

you young in the gacha gaming community

[analog cargo]

u will get tehre eventualy

[shadow holly]

I started Glory patch
took a break from end of XXI patch til mech patch

[livid lark]

I played since 2017

[shadow holly]

and been playing since mech patch

[livid lark]

as in gacha in general

[glass bay]

I feel this burnout from genshit

But not from pgr

[thorn creek]

👴

[livid lark]

i played sao memory defrag when it was out

[pine slate]

I don't burnout from pgr cuz I like malding

[sand laurel]

I'm sitting here in awe and listen how someone unleashed a burnout upon themselves

[livid lark]

and then hi3
then genshin

and now PGR + ww

[analog cargo]

in teh end of the day,u should rly just care about what makes the game fun for u

[shadow holly]

I sure hope if I get truly burnt out I don't get Stockholm syndrome and sunk cost fallacy keeping me playing

[analog cargo]

go play ur dumass vera dps build

if its what it is fun for u

[glass bay]

Waifu over meta

It's over gph is dead

We are now pgr general 2

[shadow holly]

cuz at least for genshin
I played for a year maybe?
I stopped enjoying it
and quit
successfully i guess
I tried returning but I only stayed for like a month or two I think

[sand laurel]

I thought this is #burnout-help

[analog cargo]

burnout is rly common

[glass bay]

Its pantsu help

[thorn creek]

All in all, have fun. If you force urself to the point you are not having fun, then stop

[analog cargo]

theres no way u play a game everyday for 2years and stay fine

[shadow holly]

[thorn creek]

Try out something new

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141462920329441470.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=SoppoEat

[livid lark]

especially when the game remains stale

[glass bay]

Genshit vibes and relaxing mood are still nice for me but gameplay is really braindead

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/wfui.gif

[livid lark]

<me after playing ff14 for 5 years

[ashen edge]

ok now take care of SS generation

[analog cargo]

dw

[sand laurel]

this reminds me of runescape people

[glass bay]

U play this and gachas as well?

[pine slate]

[glass bay]

Fk me

[livid lark]

i played that for years as well

[analog cargo]

i dont anymore but i used to ye

got imortal and stoped

[glass bay]

That'd insane

[raw swift]

Yo is ps4 controller supported on pgr? Or do I need a ps5 controller to connect controller?

Cuz when I tried connecting my ps4 controller. It wouldn't connect.

[livid lark]

works fine for me

is your controller working fine when you play other games?

[raw swift]

Yes

[livid lark]

check in game settings

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

there should be a controller section where you can choose the layout

[raw swift]

This is pc btw

[livid lark]

yea I know

[raw swift]

Ight

[livid lark]

I play on PC as well

[raw swift]

Ok making sure

And I'll check I have to update my game

Also when is pgr anniversary?

[thorn creek]

Next week

[shadow holly]

16th July I think?

ina week basically

[stiff elm]

15'th

[shadow holly]

[stiff elm]

hi

[shadow holly]

numbas not my frens

[raw swift]

Holy snap I joined at the right time

[sand laurel]

16th July is Karenina eating BC day

[stiff elm]

what about me

[shadow holly]

[raw swift]

What all can we expect to get our of anniversary

[shadow holly]

everyone I play LC with is automatically fren

[thorn creek]

Free 10 pulls

[livid lark]

10 free pulls
100% banner for all previously run s ranks

[thorn creek]

Free background

[sand laurel]

free 10 pulls where?

are they only for anniv banner?

[thorn creek]

Login bonus

[stiff elm]

so what was I before yesterday D:

[sand laurel]

oh is it like distributed among different banners?

[shadow holly]

fren (trial version)

[raw swift]

What about the one girl with the bike

[livid lark]

no

[stiff elm]

what if I was too broke for lc

[thorn creek]

Her too

[livid lark]

she should be on there yes
it's been more than 2 patches alr

[raw swift]

Yeppi

[thorn creek]

Everyone up to feral is available

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

no moni pirate fren license

[raw swift]

Her design remind me of acheron alot idk why

[sand laurel]

I'm ready for Alisa

[stiff elm]

[stiff elm]

yeah you can probably make that back in a week

[sand laurel]

also this pilled up xD

[shadow holly]

couple weeks is around 100k
so nah
that's worth a bit more

holy dorm coins

[stiff elm]

can I have some

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/e2H2KgNCDPm.gif

[stiff elm]

spare change for the less fortunate?

[raw swift]

Also wym about 100% banners lol.

Unless I'm just looking to much into it.

[sand laurel]

[shadow holly]

just 100% rateup
no chance for offrate
no hoyo 50/50

[sand laurel]

100% rate up for any 2 patches old S-ranks

[thorn creek]

Rookie numbers

[quiet lily]

dorm grinder holi

[raw swift]

So it's garenteed?

[quiet lily]

faking hell so many dorm grinder

[sand laurel]

Y E S

[remote pier]

are we dorito flexing now?

[raw swift]

Wohooo

[shadow holly]

well yeah
if u get an S rank
it's guaranteed to be the one u choose

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-gif-19517415

[rose yew]

I dont remember pgr having a 100% guaranteed banner

[raw swift]

Is there different version if the one with the bike?

Of*

[livid lark]

spreading misinfo again

[thorn creek]

Anniversary banners

[livid lark]

wdym?
there's only one of those

[sand laurel]

so this is how you excuse all this history of your misinfo

[river nymph]

[raw swift]

What was her name again?

[rose yew]

[sand laurel]

blame it on poor memory

[livid lark]

Alpha

oh you mean different frames

[river nymph]

lucia: crimson weave

[livid lark]

yes but that other one isnt meta

She has an older S rank but it's not worth getting if you going after meta

[sand laurel]

[raw swift]

Lol do we get to use her bike in battle?

[livid lark]

if you have her pet yes

[thorn creek]

It’s a cub

[rose yew]

lol no

[raw swift]

Can we get her pet on anniversary?

[thorn creek]

U can get it now

[rose yew]

you can get her pet anytime the banner is always up

[thorn creek]

80% tho

[livid lark]

pet banner is always present

but yea you can offrate so just be careful

only banner that rotates is the character banners

[sand laurel]

f2p are not really pulling for weapons or pets

[raw swift]

What are my chances of getting the pet I want

[thorn creek]

At first release

[rose yew]

1/12 multiplied by 0.8
so 2%

[thorn creek]

Like Alisa is releasing next week and her pet will be 100% until patch end

[raw swift]

Damn

[thorn creek]

Then future is perm 80%

[sand laurel]

did you had your pills?

[quiet lily]

quikmeth

[rose yew]

do you mean pulls

[livid lark]

if you want to pull pet you should buy the BP

[raw swift]

Too broke for that

[river nymph]

80%

[livid lark]

because you get 2500 pet tickets each patch

otherwise you'll need to pray that you get the pet and it shouldnt be priority

[thorn creek]

20 pulls is pity

So 5k cub tickets

[sand laurel]

100% for newly released pet, 80% for older

[frozen creek]

skip anni for sss lamia

[raw swift]

Yall said it's permanent right?

[thorn creek]

Yes perm

[livid lark]

yes

[raw swift]

Good

[sand laurel]

honestly, just read description of banners in the game, the rates are disclosed

[rose yew]

2 patches of battle pass tier 1 to guarantee cub basically

[glass bay]

[raw swift]

Can't it's still updating.

[cunning tree]

When you register a Support Character -- that's something other people can use? Guild members or friends or both?

[rose yew]

the cub skill is decent for warzone

[raw swift]

has crimson abyss became decent after her leap? like gud for clearing babel and other modes

[quiet lily]

how tf u got that matrix timer ui?

[frozen creek]

you can clear babel using anyone and shes still rubbish in all other modes

[raw swift]

aight

[frozen creek]

stigmata replaced her

[rose yew]

ingame

[sand laurel]

friends can borrow the support character in Norman mode or the character may appear as support in Story battles (this option needs to be enabled)

[raw swift]

i wanna leap her just for babel really xD

[remote pier]

suppor

[rose yew]

suppor

[raw swift]

effects looks cool

[cunning tree]

Can they actually play as the support character?

[sand laurel]

in Norman yes, in story mode its just bot that plays along the player

[frozen creek]

yeah if you like her there's no harm in leaping cause leap mats are basically free but require a lot of time to farm
just make sure youll have enough leap mats to leap garnet and empyrea back to back at the end of the year

[shadow holly]

tbf in Norman the support unit is set separately

[raw swift]

How does the pity work in pgr?

[shadow holly]

just
hard pity
if u don't get S rank before it
u get it on pity

[livid lark]

if you are around for the debut banner it's 100% in 60 pulls

it's always guaranteed

[raw swift]

What?

[livid lark]

meaning, that if you save up 15k BC you'll always get the unit on release

[frozen creek]

basically ignore any banner that isnt base member or themed

[sand laurel]

oh right, depends what support you mean, the one in profile only appears for your friends as bot in story mode
you can set support character in Norman mode which is separate

[livid lark]

shocked are you?
welcome to kuro games

[raw swift]

You basically purchase the S rank for 15k bc in 99% of cases

[raw swift]

aight ill keep noted of that man, although when does vera and empy leap come? like what patch specifically

[shadow holly]

what do u mean by how does pity work
it's the same in all gachas
pity system that is
if u don't get a high rarity unit before a certain amount of pulls
you get them on the pity pull

[thorn creek]

Two banners: normal and fate
Normal: rate for S is 0.5% pity at 60 pulls
Fate: rate is 1.5% pity at 80-100 pulls

[shadow holly]

garnet leap on Shukra patch
Empy leap on Teddy patch

[frozen creek]

garnet in qu patch november
empyrea in teddy patch DECEMBER

[thorn creek]

Most do normal banner as safer option

[rose yew]

arrival banner guarantees the 3 featured units

[sand laurel]

like here you can see I set support for Norman

[thorn creek]

Guaranteed at 15k bc

[raw swift]

damn it really is b2b holy shet

[frozen creek]

fate banner is really only for people going for s+

[cunning tree]

I'm a new player and I want the option to play as A2 sometimes.

[raw swift]

Not what I'm reading hoyo games don't do that.

[frozen creek]

not possible unless a guildie or friend sets them as support

[sand laurel]

then you gotta find a friend/guildmate that has A2 set as support in Norman mode :D

[shadow holly]

what
hoyo games have pity too
they usually have 90 pulls hard pity
and around 75 pulls soft pity with chance increases

[thorn creek]

Yeah hoyo is greedy with 50/50 but PGR doesn’t do that

[shadow holly]

as far as I remember

[thorn creek]

Always 100% at debut

[sand laurel]

pgr is not openworld gacha game

imagine if wuwa could

[shadow holly]

at least wuwa weapons guaranteed

[thorn creek]

Just comparing gacha in general

[raw swift]

Your not garenteed debut banner pulls in the first 50/50

[cunning tree]

I just hit lvl65 and haven't joined a guild yet. Not afraid to admit that my ability to borrow A2 will be a factor

[shadow holly]

well yeah but that's not pity
that's just rateup chances

[quiet lily]

at least the weapon is 100% and im grateful for that

[frozen creek]

k whel

[sand laurel]

A2 is pretty weak at this point, just taste the power of Stigmata

[cunning tree]

I refuse

[quiet lily]

[shadow holly]

but yeah here on debut banners it's always 100% rateup
always the featured char

[thorn creek]

Phys whel

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/OVF3gcchUT.gif

https://tenor.com/v1Y6OnF2pvt.gif

[cunning tree]

I have taken your argument into consideration

[raw swift]

Ight after I get alpha

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-paranoia-hello-street-cat-cat-eating-gif-12431421677323781872

[raw swift]

Imma try to get her pet

[quiet lily]

yall really wanna get old unit huh

[thorn creek]

Do u have her sig weapon?

That’s more important tbh

[shadow holly]

man they're brand new

what sig

[frozen creek]

pull s+ cw and r3 her sig with s+ cub and skip absolutely everything else

[shadow holly]

[frozen creek]

scout warzone is pretty good

[thorn creek]

Ah didn’t see the newbie badge

[quiet lily]

solo cw op

[raw swift]

I wanna get the cool looking units that peak my attention.

[shadow holly]

I can't see it either I'm on mobile
but they said earlier they're just starting the game

[velvet hedge]

Character not found.

[raw swift]

I don't have any of that. I'm a new player

[thorn creek]

Play however u want. Just mentioning who’s the meta to pull in case y want to be competitive

[raw swift]

Ah ion really care about meta

[shadow holly]

ye then ur good to do whatever

[quiet lily]

tbh all the upcoming units are cool, but cool is subjective

[sand laurel]

no, they are hot

[thorn creek]

Then good luck have fun

[raw swift]

Yeah I seen some of them

[quiet lily]

[raw swift]

Especially the mermaid

[shadow holly]

lamia is cool because fish
biology doko

[sand laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1199739026278727780/lamiafish.gif

[raw swift]

feeesh

[shadow holly]

feeeeesh

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/lamia-pgr-lamia-pgr-lamia-yuka-punishing-gif-8172069376479510159

[quiet lily]

if feesh, why not water element

[shadow holly]

[cunning tree]

I only play meta

[raw swift]

Lol

[shadow holly]

[raw swift]

casually blocks yr dmg

[livid lark]

yea a2 is alr benched

[sand laurel]

meta
noctis sig
?

[quiet lily]

play meta
kaleido at lvl1

[raw swift]

Also how hard is it to get these?

[livid lark]

meta
noctis

[thorn creek]

You accumulate bc daily and weekly

[cunning tree]

painting is for nerds

[shadow holly]

u get enough to pull every new S rank char to pity and some more
so you can guarantee getting everyone for free

[livid lark]

you not playing meta then

[quiet lily]

meta dont care abt that unfortunately

[thorn creek]

Around 7.5k bc per month if u do events and everything

[sand laurel]

7.5k+, there is little bit more than that lot of the times

[shadow holly]

7.5k is scam calc

[livid lark]

kaleido's dps is the best for ice atm

[shadow holly]

actually ancient

even according to calculation sheets even the first patches weren't 7.5k avg but more

[raw swift]

Qu shukra is also a dope looking character

Idk if I'm saying that name right lol

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

it's like
9k avg per patch at least if we count with tickets

[thorn creek]

Is right

[sand laurel]

ice cream sit machine

https://tenor.com/qq9mkfBrAml.gif

[remote pier]

fart throne of ice

[quiet lily]

legs

[thorn creek]

Fart expansion

[glass bay]

She can sit on me

[sand laurel]

qu flavored ice cream

[remote pier]

qu flavored cream

[livid lark]

ayo

[raw swift]

Also what's the hard pity here?

Ik 60 is soft pity

[shadow holly]

60 is hard

[livid lark]

no 60 is hard pity

[quiet lily]

60 is soft and hard

[shadow holly]

there is no soft pity

[livid lark]

and there's no soft for debut

[raw swift]

Ohhhh

[shadow holly]

it's same chances per pull all the way til hard pity

[livid lark]

and it's guaranteed pity

[remote pier]

100 on Fate

[thorn creek]

^

[sand laurel]

80 is soft pity for fate

[shadow holly]

although chances are low so you should expect to go to pity most of the time

[livid lark]

there is a small chance that you can get an early from the debut banner but it's very small

[raw swift]

Those percentage is confusing tf out of me

[shadow holly]

still 60 pulls guaranteed is better than gambling on fate and potentially going 80+

[dapper skiff]

She can sit on my cream maker

[livid lark]

only ever got it once in my 1.5 years of playing

[shadow holly]

it's just chances to get S rank char per pull
nothing complicated

[thorn creek]

That is the rate per pull for getting an S rank

[dapper skiff]

7.5k worst case scenario

[thorn creek]

Like wuwa is also 0.5% chance to get 5 star per pull

[sand laurel]

what?

[dapper skiff]

So basically, they have some space if needed other stuff

[remote pier]

McDonald brand cream makers that broke half of the time?

[shadow holly]

worst case scenario when
when idiots skip all events?

[thorn creek]

[raw swift]

Yeah the casual

[livid lark]

I skip majority of the coop events

[shadow holly]

skipping events is beyond casual

its just ruining your pull income

[raw swift]

Believe it or not they exist

[sand laurel]

wuwa is 0.8% everywhere

[shadow holly]

even if ur casual why would you willingly make yourself pull less

[dapper skiff]

Dude it's worst case scenario

A little lie to make them thinking twice before spending bc for baits because they knows they got more incomes is a good idea

[remote pier]

what a bargain

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

coop events suck when you cant find anyone else to do it with

[sly geyser]

and 50% chance at 80 pity

[livid lark]

if it's just solo tho then there's no excuse

[dapper skiff]

You underestimate these people on believing in their nonexistent luck with only 10x spare bc

[thorn creek]

my b

[dapper skiff]

[sly geyser]

the 5050 system is something else

[shadow holly]

that's stupid
you can disagree but imo it's just
dumb
I've seen people refusing to pull sigs f2p because they were so deeply misinfod that they can never afford them

[thorn creek]

Hoyo special

[sand laurel]

how about double 50/50? (Alchemy Stars)

[raw swift]

What is alpha pet called

[livid lark]

motorbolt

[dapper skiff]

Ibut i mean like

Weapon gavha is permanent

[sand laurel]

wroom wroom (can rename the pets)

[dapper skiff]

They got spare?
Just pull

[raw swift]

Lmaoo

[dapper skiff]

[raw swift]

Very creative

Bet

[sly geyser]

f2p no rights in hoyo games are on a completely new level

[livid lark]

at least this isnt hi3

the rates arent garbo here

[remote pier]

isn't pgr copying zzz

[livid lark]

and the powercreep isnt apparent until like 2-3 years later

[raw swift]

Yeah those banner are abemsel

[sand laurel]

[livid lark]

WAIT NO WAY

[sly geyser]

yea I watched a video about hi3 recently 💀

[livid lark]

YOU CAN CHANGE THEIR NAMES?!

[quiet lily]

i just realized i can rename the cub

[remote pier]

[quiet lily]

[sly geyser]

bro that's just a way to tell peeps to not pull lmao

[thorn creek]

ye

[sand laurel]

I have better name for alpha cub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAUK9hVgmNI

[livid lark]

HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS AFTER 1 YEAR OF GETTING A CUB

[river nymph]

i named my alpha cub ka-chow

[remote pier]

should have named it lightning mcqueen

[raw swift]

So without her pet your not allowed to use the bike in battle?

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/mcqueen-gif-9449693085032454841

[livid lark]

yea pretty much

[thorn creek]

exactly

[raw swift]

Lmaooo

[livid lark]

her kit itself doesnt have the bike

[thorn creek]

Its her special dodge hold attack

[livid lark]

it's the interaction with her pet

[remote pier]

it's a p2w game

[raw swift]

Yeah see all my bc or however you say it is going to that pet thing.

[remote pier]

f2ps don't get cool bikes

[raw swift]

Ion care how long it takes

[peak halo]

Like every gacha

[raw swift]

Watch me:^)

[quiet lily]

cub is just 20 pity

[thorn creek]

[livid lark]

f2ps dont get rights

they only get wrongs

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

[sand laurel]

only ups, downs and lefts

[sly geyser]

I dropped a like lmao 🤣

[raw swift]

Lolz

[ashen edge]

[thorn creek]

pity is 20 pulls, so 5k bc. less than a month to accumulate

[remote pier]

is it worth bricking account for a bike though

[quiet lily]

but sir i only like cool unit

[livid lark]

i mean it's stylish

[sand laurel]

no?

[sly geyser]

don't forget the 80% rate too

[raw swift]

Yes

[remote pier]

offrates and get seashell

[livid lark]

sir, can I please get uncle so that I can bench nanamecha

[sand laurel]

you get some grouping for wz

[rose yew]

imagine not having 3s seashell yet

[sand laurel]

seeshell is A-rank

[shadow holly]

rite of passage for new players is gambling on some random non-100% rateup banner
if they win
good
if they lose
they werent meant to play the game

[remote pier]

CW already have grouping build in.

[quiet lily]

glory bird is cool

[rose yew]

free bird

[shadow holly]

yea but only on her slam already
u want grouping before so that ur tank qte actually hits everyone

[remote pier]

Bike can't solve her other issue, which is ulting at the empty air

[sand laurel]

I know but still

[sand laurel]

cant solve your skill issue?

[remote pier]

Every time I think I get a good score only for CW to jump to Mars and ult fml

[shadow holly]

just dodge slam without targets smh

[sly geyser]

AMERICA BIRD

[livid lark]

CW jumping to mars and back is so funny

[shadow holly]

the worst thing is dshark
because you can go to moon even if you have the target
cuz shark just jumps out of the way of the dash in the last moment

[livid lark]

literally no target so she launches herself to an empty space and then back down

[remote pier]

slingshot w/o bike

[rose yew]

sounds terrible

[sand laurel]

at this point better to save for another character or try to get some important sig

[livid lark]

lamia and epitaph

[rose yew]

skipping lamia because I have luna

I do need epitaph sig for my pulse tho

[dapper skiff]

Skipping wata because i have mech

[sand laurel]

I didnt expected any better from Miku

[livid lark]

[quiet lily]

[thorn creek]

More lamia for me

[remote pier]

skip PGR and go to ZZZ

[sand laurel]

I'm kinda bored of ZZZ

[remote pier]

isn't that the point of the game? zzz

[sand laurel]

still trying it out though

[cunning tree]

I'm new to PGR and playing ZZZ just makes me want to play more PGR

[pine slate]

I dropped it

[river nymph]

i tried zzz, didnt get the furry, quit

[sand laurel]

the story presentation is much better in ZZZ and thats pretty much it
and there's dungeon system that can be expanded upon (or can turn into chore)

[remote pier]

Doesn't zzz have their own Palefire?

[pine slate]

I don't like zzz combat

[pine slate]

Based

[thorn creek]

What’s the rate for whatever the S rank unit is?

[remote pier]

idk

[river nymph]

i just wanted furry 😔

[livid lark]

zzz auto parry

[pine slate]

Same as genshin, hsr I assume

[remote pier]

don't touch it

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/grin-smirk-muahaha-troll-face-hehehe-gif-8363938281676712687

[cunning tree]

I played WuWa and then ran out of stuff to do, so I started playing PGR. Then a few days later ZZZ came out. And I've played more PGR than anything else since then

[rose yew]

the only character I like in zzz is rem

[cunning tree]

Actually, I think I downloaded PGR while WuWa was in maintenance for v1.1

[sand laurel]

0.6% rate for 5*, one 50/50, 90 pity

🚮

[thorn creek]

Sticking with my non-hoyo gachas

[livid lark]

90 pity

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

hsr has 80 pity

[sand laurel]

that doesn't say much without actually knowing what will be the income

its still pretty new and we don't have clear picture of the standard income yet

[livid lark]

fair enuf
but knowing hoyo it's going to be little

[sand laurel]

but yeah, it really sounds bitter ;/

[livid lark]

unless dawei is running the show or whoever it is running hsr

[cunning tree]

I pulled for shark girl and lost the 50/50. Next 10 pull got her. Then won first 10 pull on her weapon banner. My anecdote should be used as official data for all discussions

[livid lark]

still hasnt levelled up their kaleido even when it's meta

[sand laurel]

ban this guy

its hoyoagent (no pun on zzz's agents intended)

[cunning tree]

I will shill for whatever company lets me use thicc A2

[livid lark]

if you're using A2 for physical you're going to get stomped hard in wz and PPC

[sand laurel]

imagine if collab units were still meta

[rose yew]

brs

[cunning tree]

She is Noctis support

[livid lark]

oh the fire that would have taken place if BRS was meta

[quiet lily]

what

[livid lark]

oh that's hillarious

damn this guy's good at comedy

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

ICANT

[sand laurel]

whats so funny about that

[thorn creek]

smartest hoyo fan

[livid lark]

A2 as noctis support

[sand laurel]

🤨

[livid lark]

just putting them together is hillarious

[quiet lily]

now i feel like this is just a bait

[livid lark]

true

[cunning tree]

bet

[peak halo]

This guy think can support a phys unit a lightning unit

[sand laurel]

let them cook

I bet this guy would like team randomizer for babel

[peak halo]

Yeah better than nothing so

[cunning tree]

No I only play good characters

[livid lark]

yea ok this has to be bait

[sand laurel]

people talk about baits but I still see no fish

[cunning tree]

Expressing interest in off-meta comps based on character preference is bait?

[livid lark]

off element is dead in this game buddy

[rose yew]

according to this channel yes

[livid lark]

you're playing the wrong game if you want to go off element

your score will be garbage in PPC and warzone

so yea gl with that if you're serious

[peak halo]

Its gamplay help
Not brickhelp

[sand laurel]

#💬・pgr-general

[cunning tree]

Damn I didn't realize that. My friends and family would shun me if they found out

[cunning tree]

I legit thought this was general XD

[livid lark]

suit yourself then

imagine if aethervoid was here

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[thorn creek]

don't take it too hard, it's troll

[livid lark]

oh no i'm not

just having a good laugh

[thorn creek]

[livid lark]

there's no way that someone can be that serious when we already mentioned how the game functions

[sand laurel]

this reminds me of one of those mobile game ads where a guy brags about the power level of his account/units to his family and coworkers, and they completely understand are in awe

[rose yew]

voodoo boasted about her power in rise of kingdoms only to be beaten by crimson abyss

[thorn creek]

No one can gaslight like @rose yew

[rose yew]

[sand laurel]

sir, you can't let yourself be ridiculed by your family and coworkers for a bad scores in PPC and WZ

[thorn creek]

the OG

[rose yew]

ferry is the true og

[thorn creek]

oh tru

[cunning tree]

I met my fiance when she overheard me mention Crimson Weave while I was dancing at a super cool rave for cool people. Drake and Keanu Reaves were there IIRC. No big deal

[quiet lily]

cool

[thorn creek]

Is ur fiance single?

[cunning tree]

She said she would be if I don't find a guild that lets me use A2 support character

[livid lark]

[thorn creek]

Aight gn

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-rosetta-outro-reverse-goodbye-chat-gif-24346443

[open hare]

hi i just started and was wondering which is the best to pick from these?

[livid lark]

uh I would wait to see what others would say but imo the left one should be pulse and the right one should be lightning spark

other people on here might have a different idea about which one is better

[cerulean grotto]

Nana 5* is free already

[livid lark]

oh then it's pick whatever after

[open hare]

thanks!

[rose yew]

how well does 4 shake 4 cot lamia perform

[shadow holly]

[rose yew]

or 2 eins 2 lan

[shadow holly]

wait what is lan

[rose yew]

lantern

[shadow holly]

i think 2tifa 2guin 2conde 2hanna is better