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I like this guy 
my goat
Time to play more pgr guys let's go
I'm out of storage to update pgr
pgr? what's that
A-are you serious?
I only know honaki impact 3th
Is that a country? I'd love to come by!
oh shee it's out already?
yes echo is now on arrival banner frfr
What's better than 1 excalibur? 2 excaliburs. Today I'll be talking about S Alisa Echo 's playstyle, ascensions, weapons and harmonization upgrade system, builds, her cub, team setups, and build and pull recommendations.
Harmonization team builds: https://spider2b.notion.site/Harmonization-Builds-Alisa-Patch-49352035edb04146be33301fe2dbce3f?pvs...

many thanks
where can i fight new bosses outside of story?

They're usually available to fight again in events with five levels of difficulty
yeah so basically simulated trial is not being updated anymore? i want to fight lilith boss again
celica class boss is updated, it's just very inconsistent
where's the other goat, Atsushi 
its been 147 days without an Atsushi video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 activity from Atsushi. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Atsushi's videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Atsushi uploads again
its been 148 days without an Atsushi video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 activity from Atsushi. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Atsushi's videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Atsushi uploads again
wdym by casual?
its been 148 days without an Atsushi video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 activity from Atsushi. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Atsushi's videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Atsushi uploads again
The ppc harmo build is pretty much whatever tf available to equip

right, the list is missing bambi 


my Luna is 5* S 
can you imagine the cn people who harmoed luna just before lamia was announced 
fish
i harmod ember
that's a really simplified build tbh
very casual friendly
Yes
too casual
That's what i said
That's what she said

yeah man im parroting

I had to rebuild the mem placements for 4 shake 4 hanna
Can you parroting my parents telling me they're proud?

||you are adopted||
4 eins 4 cath kinda bussin ngl
Is sss3 daren also dv holder for ppc when lamia arrives?
6 months and i still havent met your parents yet 
you get full shred coverage
What
Who's build is that
all team tank

noway doomy cooking
ember
the doomy is cooky
when is doomybot's harmo

Anything about ppc build is heavily depends on almost everything
never the bot is dead
So
We can't simply say yes or no
doomybot is doomed?
ofc lamia still gonna do more damage usually
not like you gonna swap in ppc


doomybot is dead we go to fury sheet now
miku bot will rise
fury sheet where
we don't go to spoder 2b sheet 
pin it pls
what the sigma
I mean tbh
It's not like it's entirely wrong (tbh some are very questionable
)
It's just still quite far from best optimization
My target was to harmonize Alisa and Feral 1st then attackers 
tp balter or stigmata? 
OH I FORGOT HARMO IS NEXT PATCH
matrix timer looking plain atm 

whats the 3p yellow orb for
what the sigma 
I bet Spider2b had no sleep when doing this one 
omg is thar real doomy 
who made this

2nd cub active in wz
whats the 3 yellow for wtf
Wutdahelll
qte timer ain't even looking
Gapclose 
is that the actual reason
idont want to watch the video
The only thinkable reason
there's no qte timer
it's matrix cooldown timer for the 2 off field units
He doesn't mention if it was for wz or ppc
yellow orb is the only one that can gather 
It just "use 3y when u start with alisa"


use 3 yellow to have seggs
i actualy have no idea why he says that
With both Cecily and Alisa 
has Spider2b become the Fury of NA?
he just says 3y to gapclose
on what


Nothing ig
the only use case is som bosses in ppc
idk to you maybe

god i hate thiw sgame
same
harnonise cw after alisa
Aether said CW & Feral after Alisa
me when i say for people to lose dmg against others
cuz it gets replaced in 1.5years
What's better than 1 excalibur? 2 excaliburs. Today I'll be talking about S Alisa Echo 's playstyle, ascensions, weapons and harmonization upgrade system, builds, her cub, team setups, and build and pull recommendations.
Harmonization team builds: https://spider2b.notion.site/Harmonization-Builds-Alisa-Patch-49352035edb04146be33301fe2dbce3f?pvs...
just fdoge fr 
ask Spider 
fdoge in wz too 
i will just say
that this guy will change his argument about flare harmo
the patch she gets powecrept
wich is super dumb
whats flare
garnet
legitimate tierlist for pulling
he also said something in a sense that lee does not benefit from harmo enough to be worth it over these
he is not worth harmonizing because new watanabe


I mean i wouldn't completely disagree with him
SS0 hyper harmo is 
I ONLY HAVE A FEW SIGS IN THE FIRST PLACE
hyperreal is low priority compared to wata tank who can do higher burst damage 

"I highly advise against harmonizing Lee Hyperreal due to the minimal benefit and his transition from Main DPS later on"
Even ss3 harmo only more beneficial post qu patch
wta about alisa harmo build
if she use x4 sig + x4 dv
does rosetta keep her x4 leehoenhek ?
That's true tho
so Watadaddy issue
Wuts his opinion atm
Ofc I will harmo others who are more prio ofc
u shoudnt harmo hyperreal cuz hes powercrept
Yeah
Rose doesn't really work without Leeuwenhoek most of time
I'd rather harmo empy over hypertrash real
yes
how else is rose suppose to yo shred

it has swap to rose on it so its not ppc

i thought she become dv holder like other tank
Lacking context almost on everything
No lmao
almost like gray ravens
Rosetta is too brick to do such thing
only dv in ppc
got it
tbf most tanks aren't even dv holder
except gloru
Isn't Rosetta harmo least of least prio
glory is unglory

rosetta on field time is very low so yea not that good anymore 
The last harmo to do for all usable unit in the game
True
Even glory harmo would have slightly better value over roset harmo if one ever decides to do so
💀
if a char is 1year far
Edited
and u tell people to not harmo the old one cause they get powercreep
its just saying,lose ur ranks cuz u want to save
Changwho 4 fred 4 aline harmo 
Don't harmo hyper so you literally will not have shakes in your fire team

Yuri you're sticking too much on the hyper harmoskip part
There are mmore to be concerned of spider sheet
i harmod ember to have shakes on my team
is this the best color slot setup? 

Ss0 fire won't have shake anyway

isn't echo supposed to be on blue 
I I've been using balter as red all along
So it doesn't matter
i prefer balter on red
Preference
I'm running this (but was wondering if anything changed after Alisa)
Physical team placement barely matters
her red is the most ass one
and you prefer your good qte on blue
cuz balter blue is nice as hell
It just whichever comfortable for you
ye that's my preset too

SS feral he assumes cottie main set wtf 
didn't we already have another harmo spreadsheet 
You better regretting it already before reading it 
yeah furys
we have a harmo spreadsheet compiled from setsu data but its a bit too whale for a lot of ppl
some sets would just not work
ss 21 uses cottie?
surely
behold the glorious Peter 
same as assuming stigmata always having cottie
There's Ae harmo sheet, there's setsu sheet, there's the bili sheet and now there's spider sheet
Which one you prefer

bili best 
also wtf kaleido guin harmo? is that a thing before qu?
Idk
bili-pedia is my go to

It's dps kale harmo
dont ss0 balter use 4char 2signa now instead of 2lwh?
Never heard one 
2 cottie over 2 dv is wild
atleast that's what i remembered from what aether told me
I mean both is pretty much work the same
Unless you're really into super minmaxing
Where’s aether sheet
It's AE, adam and eve
Not aether lmao
hey man i put 4class guin on my feral for ppc
i think i include in that part 
is she playable enough without cottie just due to dlt?
when i asked setsu he said 2 dv

how does this works?
Pgr is incomplete without an aether and miku
I mean Im using 4 sera 2 dar for cappuccino atm
no rotation issue and can still double sig move in one rot
skip
literaly waht gray ravens do
in teh setsu sheet it says "for tanky waves" so idk how often its used compared to cottie but ig there are more tanky wz than squishy oens
and its pretty 
tanky waves aka 150 fluctuation?
350 
in setsu words,skill issue

It’s for tanky waves in wz
Which u will def encounter in legend
I call it the casual harmo sheet
Not gonna bother anything about it
at least on gray ravens, each set at least has this details section

well
it "explains"
time for another Yuri stream
dosent explain enough
and som sig resos are wrong
som chars are rly more comples about sets than others
dark team for example
nah
well,thast not som we didnt tried
but it should be going in a better direction from now
surely

Too much theory crafting compared with field testing
its just that,som are not explained enough
and others are just like
y
and i have a personal problem with sig resos recom
whats the worst thing on the dark builds on gr site?
so when are they going to add Lotus harmo?
at least cw sig resos doesnt recommend matrix lightning as high prio 
a bunch of diff builds that rely on the ranks of ur team
not the ranks on a single char
so u cant just explain teh char
u need to explain how the build would fit in the team with that rank
Guys can anyone donate me serum? I used up 3000 to grind for memories and resources

21 resos is another probllem
can you point to example?
checks out
when u get to sss capri and ss3 daren,u have a lot of diff things u can do
like cond on daren,eins capri,vice versa
but when harmo comes u have another huge set of mems
it requires explanation
what checks out 
using serum for its purposes?
and they are rank based
exchange bc for serum twice daily nya
the bottom description
why
Warning: User is a certified ___
maximum grinding efficency
am i an idiot for using serum on memories too?

should i use by rc to direct convert to bc then to serums?

donate serum
I guess this is not explained?

Caution: Interacting with user may lead -but not limited to- the following: Excessive Brain Rot, Cringe overdose, UwU flashbangs.
absolutely
the only immediate way to get quick bcs rather than daily login which may cost you to miss the deadline of banners
Don't call us out like that 
rly little explanation of what u need ot understand
and 2 cottie is not rly used
and ye
making huge texts will make people read even less
but it does create the problem of wrong sets
thats ww
Ngl If I have very little time I won't read all that. But if I'm bored out of my mind and have nothing else to do, you bet your ass I'm gonna be reading 1000 pages.

wtf you talking about? 
well its real
huge issue
wrong tl of jiyan wep
I think they almost got sued for it?
I know about the Jiyan weapon mistranslation drama in JP (and also about putting the damaged customers email addressed in cc instead of bcc so their emails got mutually exposed)
the said required comp req also got ppl @ leaked 
ye
not because of that
because they leaked emails

but what I was asking is that, what does gray raven site that is not even official have to do with official ingame information in another game
yea not sue but still was a big drama because wrong description caused ssome ppl to pull for his sig to use on calch
then it turned out that it doesnt rly work on him so ppl found out they wasted their pulls
not the end of the world for open world game tbh
that was almost a month ago 
maybe it was almost 2 month?
f*ck my perception of time is all over the place
ur old

I don't get the point of this in a context of what was said in the chat tbh
mistranslation
totally bad context
imagine if they typed Daren does physical shred instead of dark shred
lol wdym pgr has had plenty of mistranslations
it just never mattered in en because the game is dead
you know SSS+ lee passive didn't work for 3 patches right
like straight up 0 effect
SSS+ hyperreal
not hyperreal
Stream what
entropy
SSS+ entropy
O stacking dmg.
too whel
whel problems
ppc 
stream deez nuts
idk what wz we having
ice mob I think it was
I don't wanna enter wz now
oh pak, it's ice and dark Kale weather
ice and dark?
my fav demote combo WZ
looks like i'm demoting
im going to throw up
wtf
Watch PPC be Voodoo
time to one tap ice with Changwho dps plume qte 
holy easiest wz ever
no one has decent dark and no one wants to play ice
Me a non-ss3 Daren haver: 

I have SSS capri and SS3 Daren

but S 5* Luna 
welp, I'll just binge watch Xenolao's dark wz stream and imagine that's me w/ the Daren
not like my luna is much better

Oo fatass numbers
SS 5* no hypertunes
eins bot
should just use rozen at that point 
patton ofc
222
cappuccino dps
Rozan can replace luna
rozen leap op fr
Bot gonna leap her to use lamia after 40 days
just s+ everyone 
Echo do more damge than rigor right?
ofc
Spider 2b just uploaded a guide for echo and said that rigor do more

might be more rank dependent?
spider also made the shtty harmo guide we were laughing at earlier
I'm looking for some lightweight ways to brick my account now 
One is a tank and the other is amplifier
Just pull 70% banner
I experienced that already, its nothing new anymore
SS3 Ember 
Fate arrival is the best way
a credit card is pretty light
And he talked about the new thingy for sig
I should have said, non-credit card ways
Smh yowaii, ss7 veritas
debit card nya
I got luna

debt card 
you cant get debt with a debit card tho
K?
daren skippers sure have over 600 
I'm curious as to who all ss their glory
Bro is playing since 1bc

i spent 100 skulls as a beginner on glory because he was my first S rank and i didnt know about ss priorities yet
glory is your first S unit? 
My glory is s5 for some reason
I got glory from std pity
no, the debt card is something like irl brick certificate 

yea i started on his patch dawg
Maybe got shards from pulling

guys one sec
My luminance is freaking s7 or s8
i have something to show you


mine too
Just ss her to get 25 blue cards
Oh well
Mb I don't remember then

Now you have to complete it
my plume is s5 too


Is that the early day Xeno?

When Atsu and Doomy still roam the earth days
mistakes were made
watapak are those cope
Idk
is this yours? 
Blame my gacha
S rosetta 
wait do B ranks get B rank overflow shards?
mistakes were made 
yes

Osoi, maxxed her out for babel already
3s eclipse so nice with that 3 blue clutch on sig move
hp was at 50 in babel
There's an event today right?
yeah the pre-alisa mini event
What minigame?
Whack-a-Miku
Didn't it come recently already
i think its the usual mine-sweeper, tile puzzle mini game thing
we get to whack Miku irl? 
oh right

hidden Alisa message 
those stockings 
her base coating is so good
default alisa better than
skin fr
just wait till you get jailed, that will change your mind 
yeah ngl, the cop meme is funny but base is peak
Yuri's next cosplay?
I heard policewoman is sfx skin?
it is
free sfx
yeah
free vfx yes

also yeah why do ppl call vfx skins sfx
afx?
its visual effects
not sound effects
audio effects? 
I dunno

I randomly use VFX/sfx
stupid effects
default better 
im still going to go with default anyway
fits with the white theme i have with phys
pfx
pp?
physics effects 
my phys is all over the place
defaujlt balter but white rosetta skin
and will be default alisa prob
nah its a great coating
Snow Oath skin where
i was still a brickistan resident when snow oath skin
only unbrick on hanying patch

solitary dreamless
and i dont like snow oath anyway
noway dreamless
wuwa reference
pgr copying wuwa smh
WTF IS A QUALITY OPTIMISATION
reso him or nah? 
where r1 arclight
Do it
harmo him too
ht him too
but that wasn't the question 
holy we doing arclight main dps with this one\
FK him too


stop the chrome slander ðŸ˜
ayo i'd f*ck chrome
he got that noble bussy

I had female chrome
wtf whel, r1 and S rank
gallery whel wtf
this will take a while...
better get swiping
what if that's the difference btw hero retain and demote?
its not
I'd rather choke Daren with BC than this

||big cog|| 
you can choke me w/ BC
honestly, if I wanted to avoid rollercoasting between Hero and Leader, I would probably learn how to play properly and then unbrick ice
One does not try to learn ice
bambi and changyu 
🧱
4 shards on Glory rip
think I should just switch to cottie set lul, Idk why am I torturing myself
for WZ Cottie isn't gonna bring u any benefits without DLT so u can do double rots
I don't think cows can float, esp one her size
I hate Ice team a lot
no sig? 🧱
sitting ice cream machine not gonna change this for me
MEMBERS TAB HAVE A FILTER FEATURE?
You can float on her tho
She doesn't need to float

Wtf you didn't know?
no wth this is news to me

I been spending 5 seconds scrolling for Changwho everytime I need ice team
this looks ambitious

I hv 12 shards on entropy but he went to buy milk

what kind of milk

rosseta chocomilk
science

but lets not discuss this further, enough shtposting
synthetic milk proteins generator
They have vital fluid

is this enough?
almost enough for two
I have only 5k

almost 8k here
Whels are culling the competition
I got to the point where I almost don't need to do material event anymore
Perfect reso?
thats the "almost" 
I'm just building stupid things instead 
just finished dawn leap
Didn't ultima everyone yet?

just meta units
What
I just arrived like

Bro
dw about it 
Sis
just lore-related curiousity
im sure u can load a construct with whatever fluid you want :)
like, liv is filled to the brink with evil
better than a vending machine 

Overflowing with seggs energy


whel
Adv dalao
but did you use Changyu
yes

he cheered up Bambinata
Everyone needs a changyu in their lives
if I get offrated on Alisa, maybe I should harmo this
(pls don't harmo Bambi)
do it
The real test is pulling on fate
no
hypertune her while you're at it
abyss 2.0?
yes
after mem rework i guess ye
qol update when was this added
isn't that there for a while already?
harmo brick opportunity is here now 
how did I not see it
too busy w/ misinfo?
probably
That has been there at least since I started in December
I missed it for months? 
By farming event do you guys mean the wasteland hound? Seems pretty easy to beat is there any difficulty setting for this for higher rewards? Or just have to do 75-80 per run?
That's been there for a while
There are no difficulty setting for it, that's really just how much you'll earn
simply a serum sink for resources
- it's already much more efficient for everything than resource stages as it is
the only time you dont sink serum into event farming stage is when you want to do AE-6
or strongholds
or finish story
Is there a select ticket (that includes stigmata) coming up or a Stigmata rerun?
anniversary
next patch has a anniversary banner that lets you pick the S-rank guaranteed, up to a certain limit
selector?
luna patch, feb next year
Thanks guys
honestly balter is free anyway starting next year on lucia patch
just wait 1.5y
surely can't be long 
wait or 💳
Does Hyperreal work on Lamia ppc ?
too slow
It's 1 year atp
Kaleido then ?
She's not slower ?

split
I'll do the first 3 nodes with fire since SS3 Lee
he stacks faster than Kaleido cuz SS3
So less time
Brick week 
Guys, for alpha ca's memory set should I follow gray raven's suggestion or game's suggestions ?

Mf I wasted one mem worth of resources coz I bought 10 in bulk

Was about to buy 20 btw

Time to get the 6th tank class
rng blessings
pls bless me lumilao
in-game recommendations are godawful
meanwhile my physical team reso: 3 qte 
just do 4fred2darwin as she usually runs
Okay, thanks.
but alisa is coming so
May you get all required resos in one try
perfect reso alisa time
amen 
i think a newbie of this level probably doesn’t even know how to use fred

That’s the major issue with suggesting fred for CA
its all just people who can’t use the effect to the maximum
Chalk it up to skill issue
surely its better to just get better at the game faster instead of building Patton and then rebuilding the actual correct build
like I don't think using Fred is rly mechanically demanding anyway
you just gotta know when to use matrix and use dodges for maximum edb
since they got her on selector without asking first, can assume they don't care about being efficient anyway

tf gib emotes
Çhat, is it worth to 6 class pulse for wata?
Real question is whether you have her sig or not

No sig
I heard she's used as 2nd tank in wata runs in ppc
And wata doesn't reso class skill
So that's why I wanted to ask
with sig
but ig u don't have mech sig either so u can't use DV mech
and ur prob not gonna have SSS Daren too
My wata is going to only be ss btw
so 6class pulse should be an option for u
Yes
My pulse already has 2 class for some reason


You're bound to have one 6 class reso on other unit if your wata doesn't class reso
Either mech or pulse
Hmmm
So I still need 4 class on pulse and 1 class on rose
After that I will finally be able to build dvc empy

ah wait I'm stupid
not like u need mech sig here
cuz u don't need her fire shred anyways
and eins shred is on qte anyway
so u can do 6class either mech or pulse and it'll be the same in terms of shred
mech faster Lingya tho
How?
after rework for PPC you prob gon have 4guin 4shakes on her
Isn't pulse better
and 4dv 2eins tank
Empy?
what's the diff if no pulse sig

True dat
My pulse is better anyways
and after Qu patch DV is fixed duration anyway
so pulse long QTE doesn't help much
Mech is mid, also I like pulse design more

just swipe

Aren't you spender anyway
cmon spend BC do the last pull
Waiting for Alisa patch

Doesn't it take awhile to get added
Nah
It gets added as soon as patch drops
I'll get Sirius as f2p trust

Nice free reso at least

Tbh
I really really want crapri, Alisa, or feral sigs
Kaleido sig is nice too
You won't get echo sig from that i think?
I will build her cottie
It is possible to get it



After patch updates
I'm not talking about now
I'm praying for your veritas sig
If I get that I'll probably skip Alisa sig
Harmo is what's necessary, won't waste bc for useless things

whel
Let's be honest
What's so good about Alisa sig except being able to enable harmo
Everyone yapping about how mandatory it is but any other bow sig would do well enough

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Its not like I'm going to sss her, she's staying at ss
HUUUH
FK IT
I'M GATEKEEPING ADVANCED
isn't her sig also increase the physical dmg boost to 20%
Someone's not getting 1% this week
U get orb
Without dlt?
Without


I thought she had orb issues at ss
anyone
Still not enough tho 
Omw
1 orb
Ult dmg buff
All amps have been like this since ayla
Meh
Well alisa is our last one for more than a year now tho
I'd rather get another future sig instead of this crap
Well, that's assuming I get a bow
Have to make every resource worth
gets epitaph weapon somehow 
Alisa is one of my favorite females so I'll get jt 

Yes
Disgusting
I don't need another vertical sig I have 3 of those 
Harmo veritas wep 💀
So you pulling her?
?
Nah




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