📨・meta-help

[stiff elm]

ig, so stigmata switches out after or before first ult?

[shadow holly]

.5 means after u stack up for ult2 after your first full rot
just 1 ult rot means u swap out after the first full rot with ult2

[stiff elm]

ah so basically build up the sword bar or whatever and then next swap in just cast excaliburrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[pearl abyss]

whats happening

[shadow holly]

ye that's the basics of 1.5/2.5 rots

[stiff elm]

I never really had a team solid enough to really focus on rotations

for lightning I just wing it until CW is out of orbs

[shadow holly]

[stiff elm]

well i mean at least I can do FS rots

garnet is kinda more scuffed since I can't cast ultimate since s0

[glass bay]

this limit break event is kinda repetitive

[stiff elm]

fr

but 1 whole pull...

[glass bay]

i do all events anyway

[woven haven]

alisa ss0 doesn't have enough orbs to do anything besides basic rot

entry -> hold atk and ping 6 orbs while holding to enter core -> ping 9 orbs (3x3) -> ping orb for core -> ult

[shadow holly]

what impact on her rots does SSS have? I know it gives extra core gauge stacks so less orbs needed - does SSS Alisa do some semblance of 1.5 rotation?
also does the mark gain on swap in provide anything useful or the main SSS benefit is extra core gauge and amp passive increase

[woven haven]

mark gain makes u do 2nd core before ult instead of after ult

you don't have energy from sss 1st core

to ult right after

[frozen creek]

what if i ran 2 glb cottie and 2 cn cottie

[vast crystal]

Are there any free selectors from now till current cn? ||lamia normal banner doesn't count ||

[deft apex]

Luna patch until kaleido

[vast crystal]

Am not sure I understand

[shadow holly]

free selector on oblivion patch
pool up to Kaleido, the latter included

[stiff elm]

up to kaleido? cool... still gonna choose scire

[vast crystal]

Oh ok nice, Alright so just lamia and that one right? Alright thnx

[errant carbon]

is 3rd anniv big thing?

or just take 2500 event tickets and call it a day?

[stiff elm]

dunno but I just know every anniversary, 10 free pulls at least

[shadow holly]

so I was bored and decided to check out PGR reddit for fun

[stiff elm]

echo vouchers drop on alisa patch?

[shadow holly]

duh

[stiff elm]

wdym duh that wasn't made apparent to me

[shadow holly]

why wouldn't they

[stiff elm]

idfk

[shadow holly]

Kaleido was in voucher shop immediately

[stiff elm]

ok ok ok well

idk if ill have enough vouchers to SS

I probably will spend 100 skulls for 10 shards just to speed it up

[zenith thorn]

me when reddit

i gave up on reddit

[shadow holly]

[shadow holly]

@cerulean grotto

[dapper skiff]

@ashen edge do you think it can be faster?

Turns out ice always has been better for my lamia runs

Only used 1 cw ap for hell

[feral pollen]

bruh the takes on reddit are something else

[flint salmon]

What in the straight backwards logic

[feral pollen]

[carmine reef]

gigabrain

[feral pollen]

bruh reddit is free brainrot

[flint salmon]

the cooking is insane

[feral pollen]

both takes are the same guy btw

[flint salmon]

next he will say lee is the best gen2

[shadow holly]

inawaro did u create a new acc on EU or is that just someone with the same name stomping newbie PPC

[flint salmon]

Actually nah he's probably going to say skip wata for qu

[flint salmon]

Don't judge me and yes

I restarted

[shadow holly]

I don't judge fck em newbies

should learn their place

[torn walrus]

is this EX-06 time gated

[dapper skiff]

Ex6 always has been time gated

It'll be unlocked 3 days after you started norman

Not 3 days after Wednesday tho

Day1 norman is when u started it
Not when norman started

[torn walrus]

alpha EX-06 didn't have timer, or is that a prolonged time only

[dapper skiff]

Oh you mean stage timer

[shadow holly]

oh you mean that
it depends on modifier rotation

[torn walrus]

yeah stage timer

Lol

[shadow holly]

the infinitely scaling ones don't have a time limit

wait fire ring isn't ex06 too

[feral pollen]

fire ring is insta kill with 3 min mark

[shadow holly]

yea fire ring is gg go next type thing

might as well be a hard timer

also becomes an annoying stage hazard too

[feral pollen]

free matrix proc wdym

[shadow holly]

if you clear the buff node
who does that

[torn walrus]

but is the prime modifier time only

I don't wanna finish the buff nodes just to be stuck again

[shadow holly]

the ones with primes, with lightning are with timer pretty sure

I don't remember all the ex06 modifiers

[torn walrus]

Alright, cuz only my dark and fire were struggling on lightning modifier, guess this one won't be any different

[shadow holly]

on lightning they might've been struggling because of energy succ

if u didn't remove it

but yeah with dark unless u have a rly good dark you'll have to juice it up with batteries

[torn walrus]

I removed all and still struggled

[shadow holly]

[torn walrus]

I didn't even get to Riot, Siren was too tanky

[shadow holly]

what's ur fire

invest

[torn walrus]

SS Empy sig r1, hyper4head sig, ember SS sig r1 all ht

[feral pollen]

tank where

[shadow holly]

yeah u don't have a tank dawg that's why no damage

[torn walrus]

oh wait ember isn't fully ht

[feral pollen]

bruh replace ember with pulse/mech/brilliance

[torn walrus]

Doesn't even break 7k BP to cope

[shadow holly]

this is the difference between no tank and with tank

[quasi vale]

where briliance

[torn walrus]

I'm only getting mech on lamia patch

[shadow holly]

ANY tank

tank class passive + at least Gloria shred

surely you were running Einsteina on your ember at least?

[feral pollen]

surely

[torn walrus]

Hanna 4pc and 2pc Darwin

[shadow holly]

ye that's why no dmg

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[shadow holly]

get a tank with 4dv 2gloria
any tank if u don't have mech/pulse

also wtf don't get mech on Lamia patch

[remote pier]

[shadow holly]

brick pick

[feral pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1162078836352110672/1083112453992353822.gif?ex=653aa140&is=65282c40&hm=e100f5a3fdaee77eff3ce31f3999f616aa4730d1be370e5c277f941326aa965a&

[torn walrus]

I'm not a full on meta slave so the only worthy suggestion is brilliance

[remote pier]

imagine being a meta slave

[shadow holly]

still would deal like 40% more damage probably

[torn walrus]

who's only SS because I don't spend tickets

[shadow holly]

S is fine lol
as long as you can level up class passive on her

[torn walrus]

USB expensive

[shadow holly]

what USB man

[torn walrus]

<casually has 12 saved

[shadow holly]

just
level the skill
it's skill points and cogs

[torn walrus]

oh I thought you meant all the way to buff it

cuz big numbers and stuff

[shadow holly]

tf no shot anyone should ever waste anything for Brilliance resos

[stuck sphinx]

[feral pollen]

bro is about to shoot all the brics today

[shadow holly]

it's minmaxing for PPC
and you wouldn't get good scores without a proper fire tank anyway
guess u waiting for Wata for good fire PPC scores

[torn walrus]

I didn't even mention PPC

[stuck sphinx]

you could just use xxi

[shadow holly]

but yeah anyway
no tank on team = no DMG
that's why u had problems
ur team would've been able to clear the Norman siren without batteries with like a couple minutes remaining at least

[quasi vale]

come to the cope side/wata waiting room

[shadow holly]

at least u know to use a tank

[quasi vale]

those glorias still have levels from early days lol

otherwise they'd be lvl 1

[shadow holly]

smh u don't have resos on Gloria mems

[remote pier]

where's her sig?

[torn walrus]

I just thought my investment was enough, but only CW can solo no buffs Norman

[shadow holly]

CW SOLO OP MENTIONED

[stuck sphinx]

balter is basically solo

[shadow holly]

but jokes aside that's still with a tank bruh

[quasi vale]

that's actually old chrome's scythe when I didn't understand qte bots entirely yet

[shadow holly]

Arclight provides
20% EDR shred
25% lightning shred
DV buffs

[quasi vale]

then chrome got promoted, he's holding a lvl 1 orange scythe

[torn walrus]

CW and feral could definitely have an easier time in that scenario

regardless

I think that lightning node with just cw took 1 solid minute, no tank is probably 2 minutes

[shadow holly]

yes cuz hypercuck is doodoo
but ur lightning wouldn't deal nearly as good damage without tank too
as I said, had u had a tank on the fire team you would've cleared with like a couple minutes remaining at least

[torn walrus]

I'll think about what to do next, either I'm not doing this EX-06 with all buffs

remember wasting almost an entire afternoon on the last one

[quasi vale]

I don't even try to clear bollie within battery limit yet, especially without uniframes stage, dark AWOL, phys eating some battery, fire needs jesus

[zenith thorn]

Glad to see all new gen unit is op wata solo op, cw solo op, lamia solo op, qu solo op, luna solo op, hanying solo op, wanshi solo op,lucia solo op

[torn walrus]

also I'm going for nanasegs cuz I like her(duh) and got her sig from pure luck

[shadow holly]

SL P

[torn walrus]

meanwhile I could get tricked and not get epitaph's sig anyway
screw those odds

[feral pollen]

wata so op he stares menacigly boss dies

[buoyant hornet]

Soooo

How does SSS Selena rotation go?

[stuck sphinx]

lavking context

[buoyant hornet]

Is it just mald fest if you don't get tank qte?

[stuck sphinx]

that part is true

[finite cove]

Imagine winning the 20% chance in weapon banner,like it can't be me for real2

[zenith thorn]

with sig or without

[feral pollen]

capybara is mald fest pre s+

[buoyant hornet]

With

[zenith thorn]

just East 2 3pings,ult swap out

easy*

2 or 3 i forgot

[shadow holly]

2

just dont cancel core

and on swap in too

everything is extra energy

well can cancel but just not too early

[buoyant hornet]

Ty noted

[glass bay]

Patch already ending

Crazy

[buoyant hornet]

Thankfully lol

I love Noctis but this patch was kinda tedious

Also I'm excited for Alisa

[glass bay]

Can't pull for sig till lamia fml

[glass bay]

Fk I just saw latest spoiler

I won't spoil but Lucia wtf...

[shadow holly]

did her buttcrack get longer

[remote pier]

did they finally nerf her?

[feral pollen]

worse, she finally claimed her prize

[remote pier]

Another BBL?

[glass bay]

Yup, Lucia won

[glass bay]

The buttcrack worked

[deft apex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whar-whar-what-cat-whar-cat-cat-whar-slow-blink-orange-cat-whar-slow-blink-gif-6291533950402242103

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

[analog cargo]

[azure barn]

I just saw it earlier and yeah

This is probably the most incel patch PGR has ever released

[shadow holly]

could yall dm me about it

[river nymph]

i for one am glad pgr is going the snowbreak route

[shadow holly]

[analog cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1226721681846833262.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[zenith thorn]

lucia is bold

[river nymph]

[quasi vale]

I misread bald and I thought she went too far with competitive

[zenith thorn]

LivMald

[analog cargo]

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-party-gif-11781022180037669995

[stuck sphinx]

[river nymph]

evening pika

[stuck sphinx]

evening xenolao

[river nymph]

[analog cargo]

dont say that

[finite cove]

Bald 💀

[stuck sphinx]

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[finite cove]

Pika pika!!

Pikachu should've evolved to Raichu back then 💀

[river nymph]

nyoo i want pichu

[stuck sphinx]

hi yuri

[deft apex]

"Pika" sounds and is just a letter away from meaning male genitals in my language

[stuck sphinx]

wtf

[deft apex]

Hi pika

[finite cove]

Don't explain,no thx,keep it with you.

[deft apex]

[river nymph]

[deft apex]

Its great info if u ask me

[finite cove]

No I don't want to know

♿

[deft apex]

Just double it and give it to the next person, it'll be great

[dapper skiff]

Ello

Is this gud enuff

[shadow holly]

no
0s clear doko

[carmine reef]

functional game

[dapper skiff]

That's called skipping

[dapper skiff]

That just lee in his Tuesday

Call up the homies from alternative timeline to beat up random robots

Lore accurate

[carmine reef]

[finite cove]

Irl timestop for 0s clear 💯🗿

Don't ask me how btw... 💀

[remote pier]

how

[dapper skiff]

There won't be timer when you never starts one since the first place

[delicate isle]

Anyone have updated roadmap?

[dapper skiff]

[finite cove]

Wait even if in theory I have time manipulation in irl the game itself is paused

Wtf this is brain boggling theory

[remote pier]

time 0 hell

[velvet hedge]

0 is not a valid difficulty!

[dapper skiff]

Still can't save score tho because the game data doesn't get sent to clients to update game value

[remote pier]

time hell 0

[dapper skiff]

[velvet hedge]

Hell 0:00

334802

[remote pier]

still not perfect score

[finite cove]

Imagine having superpower yet it didn't help clearing ppc faster ...

[dapper skiff]

Massive skill issues

Virtual Data manipulation would have been better

[sand laurel]

can you score 0?

[remote pier]

no

[sand laurel]

then another massive skill issue

worst player leaderboard

[remote pier]

aksually if you don't touch ppc then I guess

[sand laurel]

but then you don't submit score

[dapper skiff]

Score 0?

Easy

Rank 100%

[sand laurel]

how about healing enemy

[zenith thorn]

because kuro is weird and made -1s as perfect score

[remote pier]

aksually no

[zenith thorn]

indexing start from -1s

[remote pier]

time hell -1

[velvet hedge]

Hell 0:01

333608

[sand laurel]

lmao

[remote pier]

absolute valued it

[zenith thorn]

f*ck you mean no

[remote pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/902002170533134356/image0-2.gif

[sand laurel]

can't wait for alisa, my wife

[remote pier]

is Daren the side chick?

[raw swift]

she's not even come into existance ye-

[sand laurel]

harem

actually I like Lee too

[remote pier]

ma'am that's triple dipping

[sand laurel]

[sand laurel]

whats does it says?

[remote pier]

Fed up with you

[raw swift]

In the future I'll be able to wear clothes similar to Selena's

Rahhhh

[remote pier]

same thing

[sand laurel]

no, it means she can continue

[remote pier]

One is literal translation and the other have a touch of personal touch

[sand laurel]

life was so easy

[idle hedge]

[sand laurel]

getting kicked out into exppc soon

[stuck sphinx]

Sadge

[shadow holly]

now pantsulao can snipe me in ex

[delicate isle]

Anyone have an updated road map?

Like the picture i mean

[sand laurel]

its way different in ex

[delicate isle]

1% in ex is ez don't worry

[remote pier]

Look at that legend placement

[lilac sorrel]

guys, for alisa: echo, can 11k voucher ss her?

[remote pier]

do what you want

[stuck sphinx]

No

[lilac sorrel]

what is the min?

[shadow holly]

16k + 8k
its 800 vouchers per shard with discount

[remote pier]

24k

[shadow holly]

so 24k split across two months
or one month 16k + 100 skulls worth of shards

[remote pier]

trslao will 3S the day of her debut right?

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[shadow holly]

ofc

[shadow holly]

but i will strim pulls at least
surely strimmer luck get early

[lilac sorrel]

aight ty guys

[odd abyss]

what banner is it rn

[stuck sphinx]

No banner

[remote pier]

arrival banners nya

[odd abyss]

huh, is watanabe banner gone or yet to come

[remote pier]

Wata hasn't even debut yet

[odd abyss]

thats the

thing im asking about

[zenith thorn]

then no

wata in 2 months ish

[remote pier]

why would there be banner for a character not debut yet?

[zenith thorn]

3 months*

i forgot brs exist

[mighty tusk]

Wata in october

[odd abyss]

thanks

[frozen creek]

Whel has enough to pull lamia wata qu b2b

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[zenith thorn]

im f2p

[frozen creek]

[remote pier]

so you and trslao?

[frozen creek]

I'm the only f2p in this channel

Why would I spend money on a game

Especially since astral is stronger than luna

[mighty tusk]

The only mf f2p that should be praised for not spending?

[frozen creek]

Exactly

[cerulean grotto]

Sounds like that one guy

[mighty tusk]

What 1 guy indeed

[dapper skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1238691086633795584/2024Roadmap.webp?ex=66895fb8&is=66880e38&hm=6e8df3dae5bffb8a9291bc97afaab5b45aabdf605808b2e741643fabff5f113b&

[frozen creek]

I'm f2p cause I only buy bp and monthly

[dapper skiff]

What is this man tag

[river nymph]

yeah looks good

[frozen creek]

[dapper skiff]

ILOYDIUS?
LIOYDIUS?
IIOYDIUS?

[river nymph]

i did 10s knight but only need 3 stack ult

[remote pier]

[river nymph]

nice

[cerulean grotto]

[cerulean grotto]

Liv is impressed

[river nymph]

already halfway to luna-chan

[frozen creek]

Wait we need those AE-5 thingies for harmo right

[river nymph]

yeah ofc

[remote pier]

the tops ya

[frozen creek]

Well now I need to spend my serum on that

[shadow holly]

u so whel u gonna need enough for 10 harmos

[remote pier]

how did you not know that zainlao?

[frozen creek]

Finished perfect reso veritas yesterday

[remote pier]

you been on this server since f5ver

[frozen creek]

Because I was gonna spend bc on serum to farm it if I needed to

[river nymph]

holy whel

[zenith thorn]

wtf whel

[frozen creek]

F2ps can get bc

[zenith thorn]

wheler than zeratu

[remote pier]

[frozen creek]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1188988444999958578/1122952578213355641.gif

[dapper skiff]

Dmg issue strikes once again

[buoyant jolt]

[stiff elm]

4 days till ray, 10 days till alisa
The anticipation is real

[zenith thorn]

wtf is rsy

[shadow holly]

very cute bnuuy

[remote pier]

cute breakfast

[dapper skiff]

Cute and bnuuy

[mighty tusk]

[hollow imp]

Tough

[cerulean grotto]

Whels in their natural habitat

[hollow imp]

[ashen edge]

possibly 10s

[cerulean grotto]

Bro send me the link

I want to comment on some of these r**ards to start a war

[zenith thorn]

me when i pull dmg out of nowhere

[cerulean grotto]

Dmg haxx!?

[winter scarab]

What's the difference?

[cerulean grotto]

[cerulean grotto]

2 different pov

[winter scarab]

No extra rewards right

[cerulean grotto]

I don't remember

[winter scarab]

[zenith thorn]

in terms of story

non

[winter scarab]

Lol i just noticed that i can get 4k bc from interludes

Anyone know how many bc/event card we'll get next patch?

[shadow holly]

S rank patch so probably around 10k as usual

[cerulean grotto]

Need to see how long it is

[shadow holly]

at least 5 weeks should be

[cerulean grotto]

Smh monthly buyers

[shadow holly]

every s rank patch since balter has been 10k+

[cerulean grotto]

Proof?

[winter scarab]

Trust

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/plushie-bongocat-cute-stuffed-toy-gif-16639600

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

idk check dustfly calcs
but its literally true

[cerulean grotto]

Trs >

[cerulean grotto]

[winter scarab]

[shadow holly]

ok lil bro stay broke

[winter scarab]

I'll finish all interludes tomorrow

After that the only thing that'll give me bc is the base one

[zinc jungle]

not in europ

[cerulean grotto]

Freebies are like, 7.5-8k on average atm

[winter scarab]

Forgot it's name

[cerulean grotto]

Considering its a 5 week patch

[shadow holly]

[winter scarab]

Wasn't there a calc for patches?

[cerulean grotto]

We have a sheet

[remote pier]

just swipe. guarantee enough bc

[winter scarab]

Is ss3 echo have a huge difference than ss?

[remote pier]

no

3S or brick

[winter scarab]

Nah fr i was gonna try pulling one time

[remote pier]

for her, it's SS or 3S

[shadow holly]

ah yes so sheet is totally fully legit and videos from the mf that calcs everything are not

[winter scarab]

Who's that?

[winter scarab]

Good no point pulling then

[remote pier]

pulling isn't necessarily bad if you have tons of spare.

save skulls and/or vouchers

[winter scarab]

I have some not tons

And I'm keeping some for sigs

[remote pier]

better off trying to get sig then ya

[winter scarab]

Yea I'm gonna get it

Let's pray i get in in first pull

Her sig is more important than stigmata right?

[shadow holly]

if can only get one, not even comparable
phys team itself hangs on alisa sig to function properly

[river nymph]

[winter scarab]

After getting lamia and stigmata I'll see if it's worth getting stigmata's

Is there any recommended sigs for upcoming characters?

[shadow holly]

all

[hollow imp]

What do u guys use if u only have one amp reso? SAR or GS?

[remote pier]

🐳

axial

[shadow holly]

sar unless 2% actually matters

[hollow imp]

Okay

[winter scarab]

If i get lucky getting lamia before pity i could get all

And that's a huge IF

[shadow holly]

well i mean
i cant say neither lamia, nor wata, nor shukra, nor luna will feel good at all without sig

[remote pier]

Wata, Qu, and Luna need their sig a lot

[stuck sphinx]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fM_JoNXRMqKVYcQSK42nVrsulErLzHF9iihe8fJSuPs/edit?gid=1618537713#gid=1618537713

[shadow holly]

but i guess at least get wata sig
completely changes rotations, enables double rot which is the proper way to play him

[remote pier]

their rotation is garbage w/o it

[river nymph]

[stuck sphinx]

no sig = no harmo
bricked

whel game fr

[remote pier]

maybe you should stream your pulls. Surely streamer luck

[shadow holly]

suuuuurely average is like 8k per patch like lumi says

[winter scarab]

So all after lamia need their sigs

[remote pier]

If you offrate, then we'll just laugh at you

[winter scarab]

My phone gonna boom if i do that

[shadow holly]

yeah and unleess you offrate a lot u should honestly be able to get most of them

[pine slate]

All after glory need sig

[winter scarab]

Maybe i even could if i do offrate

Rn i have 32k+4k from interludes

[cerulean grotto]

FK I FORGOT ABOUT NORMAN

[shadow holly]

even without norman its far from what the actuality says

[winter scarab]

That's 36k i still didn't do most of stronghold

[hollow imp]

Still not sure who to get on standard banner xD

[cerulean grotto]

Still isn't 10k tho

[shadow holly]

see spreadsheet pika linked ig

[cerulean grotto]

Atm 8.5k on average

[winter scarab]

Do you have every meta attacker?

[hollow imp]

Yeah

[pine slate]

should i pull alisa hmjj

i have 20 pity on debut banner

[shadow holly]

💯

[hollow imp]

Scire
or
Garnet

I dont want Glory anymore XDXDD

[cerulean grotto]

Y'all counting tickets too?

[winter scarab]

Scire

[hollow imp]

Whel things

[cerulean grotto]

[pine slate]

F2p

[shadow holly]

yes? u pull with them dawg

[hollow imp]

Forced2PaY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shadow holly]

counting BC only is a scam

[hollow imp]

: D

[cerulean grotto]

I don't count them, always good for surprise income to be used later for sigs

[winter scarab]

How many bc do you get from a stronghold?

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

ok then theres no issue with either calculations

[cerulean grotto]

Mb

[pine slate]

I just have better planning

[shadow holly]

u said without tickets me with

nah np we good pookie

[cerulean grotto]

Norman was on me
But I don't really count tickets

[cerulean grotto]

[hollow imp]

Skill issue even on this one

Im so lazy, I'm settling with 23s Hell Lamia XD

[wet escarp]

Which is better for capriccio? 2x cottie or guin?

[hollow imp]

I dont know

[nova forum]

Why tf does it feel like a month is left waiting for Alisa

[shadow holly]

she is gonna be unplayable without cottie unless shes SSS+

[cerulean grotto]

Technically, its a month if you don't already have 100k doritos

[nova forum]

Wtf whel gated

[cerulean grotto]

[wet escarp]

Oh ok thanks

[winter scarab]

So how many bc do we get from next patch

[shadow holly]

at least 1

[hollow imp]

xd

[winter scarab]

Fr how many do we get

[zinc jungle]

not enough, use 💳

[zealous mantle]

🧢

[shadow holly]

but yeah again if we count with tickets probably around 10k or higher
without tickets maybe ~7-8k? idk pure bc income

[winter scarab]

Hmmmm

[shadow holly]

assuming 5 weeks its 6k from pure weeklies

[winter scarab]

So I'll close to 45k

[hollow imp]

Minimum would be 5K

[winter scarab]

I might get qu's sig after her patch

[hollow imp]

Priority is the character anyways

Sig wont go away XD

[winter scarab]

Yea I'll get her first ofc

[cerulean grotto]

Get all sigs tbh

[winter scarab]

If i did calc it right i can

[cerulean grotto]

None of the sigs are actually skippable

[winter scarab]

The problem is wata and qu patches

No a rank patch between them

[pine slate]

I could either pull Alisa for easier sss, or get ss3 Watanabe

Honestly I got kaleido sss quite fast for someone who didn't pull her

[pine slate]

Actually I think it's better to go for hanying ss3

[hollow imp]

Power of BP tbh

I just bought 2 consecutive BP, both types and got Kaleido to SSS

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 wata

[hollow imp]

After that I havent bought BP xD I just bought the BP bc it's HR's coating weap

[pine slate]

I don't buy bp

[winter scarab]

How much is bp?

[hollow imp]

So now I'm poor with vouchers XD

[dapper skiff]

10% shred > doubled amp passive

[pine slate]

15 usd?

[hollow imp]

Biggest cap -ass -shit I've heard today

[hollow imp]

Pretty cheap tbh xD but I just by MA rn.

[pine slate]

[winter scarab]

Close to 1.3k in my currency

Fml

[hollow imp]

What currency

[winter scarab]

Egp

[hollow imp]

Oh

[winter scarab]

Or wait no

Below 1k

[dapper skiff]

Alisa sss aside doubled amp passive is really just 3 less orb for each rot and 50% base increase to core dmg

[hollow imp]

But why not

[opaque ridge]

Physical sucks anyway

[hollow imp]

I'll probably 3S Capri first XD

[opaque ridge]

Go fire

[pine slate]

Ss3 hanying better than wata I think idk

[opaque ridge]

Ss3

[pine slate]

[opaque ridge]

Dazzalao s+ what is blud yappin

[pine slate]

Sorry for being f2p

[cerulean grotto]

Why?

[pine slate]

Slash

[hollow imp]

Identity crisis fr

[opaque ridge]

Dazzalao biggest lao here didnt u know

[cerulean grotto]

Isn't ss3 wata more beneficial overall?

[hollow imp]

no

[pine slate]

How tho

It's just 10% fire shred

[cerulean grotto]

I mean, ofc my wata gonna stay at ss, gonna sss wanshi

[shadow holly]

yea ss3 wata main value was for void
after wanshi its not so much op

[cerulean grotto]

Just the fact that he's used in 2 teams?

[pine slate]

I mean

[shadow holly]

while ss3 hanying can actually use a human build and forego needing cottie

[pine slate]

Wanshi gonna replace him in void anyways so he's fire only

[cerulean grotto]

Hmmm

Btw @pine slate is there another bp buff in cn patch, someone told me we got another buff💀💀

They want to kill us f2ps

[pine slate]

[winter scarab]

It's funny that we're discussing something that gonna happen in couple of months

[opaque ridge]

Worry about harmo first

[cerulean grotto]

Meh that's okay

[hollow imp]

Shouldnt that be the case for almost everything in the world?

[shadow holly]

just buy with skulls pepega

[cerulean grotto]

I'll never lack harmo mats

[winter scarab]

Nah i just let things happen and then start to solve them

[cerulean grotto]

Whel problems can't relate

[hollow imp]

Main character moments i guess

[winter scarab]

LAZY*

[hollow imp]

You must be the best person to ever lived in the world Mr. Main Character xD

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 hanying is 15% edb in ult mode, her core stacks accumulate 50% faster and 5% more phys resist shred

[nova forum]

[hollow imp]

Nope, you have main character syndrome XD

[dapper skiff]

So probably is better than ss3 wata

[winter scarab]

Maybe I'm

[pine slate]

Ye

[hollow imp]

Not maybe, you do have it.

[dapper skiff]

Wanshi ss3 is also another nuke increase to wanshi dmg

[winter scarab]

But where my harem

[hollow imp]

Just play PGR long enough to S+ everyone, easy fix

[pine slate]

I wonder when an amp is gonna get powercrept

[opaque ridge]

Ss3 is starting to get worse and worse

[pine slate]

And I wonder if amps r getting replaced if I already have 3s on previous one

[hollow imp]

Wdym, you have main character syndome meaning you are delusional xD Not literally XD

[winter scarab]

Never

[opaque ridge]

Theyre locking all the good passives behind sss

[cerulean grotto]

Kinda true I can agree

[pine slate]

Whel game fr

[hollow imp]

If it's voucherable I think it's pretty fair

[opaque ridge]

Its not though

[winter scarab]

Nah bro im fr the main character

[dapper skiff]

Wata now is the worst ss3 amongst gen3 without considering void team comps

[opaque ridge]

Look at the new lucia

[hollow imp]

You just proved me right

[dapper skiff]

Not including leap

[pine slate]

I think Luna ss3 also pretty bad?

[cerulean grotto]

They're buffing bp for 2nd time ofc they won't make voucherable characters that good

[pine slate]

Idk

[opaque ridge]

Gabriel hell dies from her qte at sss

[dapper skiff]

Leap as gen3 is kinda wack consideration

[winter scarab]

Don't cry you extra

[hollow imp]

How big is the jump for SS3 to SSS?

[hollow imp]

And again

[shadow holly]

[hollow imp]

HUH WTF IS THIS

[dapper skiff]

No wtf

[shadow holly]

we accomplishing wata 0s qte kill on hell gabi now

[cerulean grotto]

Lucia does nuke dmg at qte yes

[opaque ridge]

Sss is always a massive buff

[pine slate]

What it do

[cerulean grotto]

Crap is calling you

[hollow imp]

They're gonna remove EXPPC LB anyways right?

[shadow holly]

lb is there
leaderboard based rewards no

[winter scarab]

Gonna go do my daily routine of imagining myself in made up situations while listening to phonk

[opaque ridge]

Pretend it doesn’t exist

Its there but its useless

[cerulean grotto]

[hollow imp]

Oh I see, so it's like a milestone now on how many skulls you get?

[shadow holly]

yes just score based

[pine slate]

I wonder how I'm surviving in onslaught with ss0

[hollow imp]

You wont

[shadow holly]

highest reward is 1.8m
also ive heard its a bit more accessible than before with the score reworks

[hollow imp]

Bc you dont have SS0, you have S+ : D

[shadow holly]

with thow the new scores work with test and elite removeal

[winter scarab]

There's some people cooking in general lmao

[hollow imp]

I see, so it's becoming a self based mald now xD No point in having score above 1.8M

[opaque ridge]

Dazzlao

[hollow imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1242497655737679973/god2-2.gif

[pine slate]

Alteralao

[hollow imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1242497655737679973/god2-2.gif

[pine slate]

[ashen edge]

[opaque ridge]

No need to trihard in ppc anymore

No need to trihard in wz anymore

[pine slate]

Ss onslaught sheet where

[shadow holly]

timeout

[pine slate]

[ashen edge]

ded

[opaque ridge]

Ss 1.8m?

[shadow holly]

[pine slate]

[river nymph]

2:00 min long wz rotations

[ashen edge]

just watch mrzhong on bili

[opaque ridge]

Can ss 1.8m though?

[river nymph]

[cerulean grotto]

What's the score for max ppc rewards after removal of leaderboards?

[pine slate]

With the new bosses, idk

[ashen edge]

yes, even low invest can 1.8

[pine slate]

Surely it can

[cerulean grotto]

And also the reward distribution

[frank dagger]

question, should I get alisa sig after her release? im f2p btw ;-;

[cerulean grotto]

I'm curious

[pine slate]

Well ye currently ss0 can 1.8m consistently

[winter scarab]

Yea

[shadow holly]

1.8m as said

[opaque ridge]

Ok then explain why top 100 onslaught = 1-5% still

[cerulean grotto]

Yes, if newish player, no

[opaque ridge]

Ded game

[pine slate]

[cerulean grotto]

What are rewards distribution?

[pine slate]

Onslaught 1% is top 1 bro

[opaque ridge]

Its top 50 or 60

Global will be like top 20

[shadow holly]

1.8m lowered to 60 from 66 cuz then u get 6 from onslaught automatically
next reward is 54 and so on
just count as alisa patch ppc rewards but starting from 1-5% bracket

[opaque ridge]

Or even 10-15

[frank dagger]

so the memory of alisa when harmonized is da vinci right? after I get the wep

[ashen edge]

just mald every week

[pine slate]

Bro u have too much faith in glb

[opaque ridge]

If people dont bother to 1.8m and join onslaught, its gonna hurt the percentile with less people

[cerulean grotto]

Nah, like I wanna know each and every skull milestone, am I clearer now?

[hollow imp]

What's Bilibili to CN?

[ashen edge]

1.8 consistently with low invest ss0

[shadow holly]

ah u mean score reqs for each milestone? that idk

[cerulean grotto]

I don't know the mems, will worry later

[hollow imp]

wait for it to drop then XDXDDXDD

[pine slate]

Bilibili is Chinese YouTube

[winter scarab]

Pgr is trying to be a truly action game not start restart game

[cerulean grotto]

You can ask @pine slate

[hollow imp]

Oh I see

[buoyant hornet]

SSS sig Selena uses cottie right?

[shadow holly]

yes

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[dapper skiff]

Luna ss3 is 20% base dmg to ult, gain insta stack after specific move for her mode and this stack is usedas duration for one of her mode, and more orbs in that said mode you can spam for dmg

Well kind of

[pine slate]

[dapper skiff]

But that 20% base dmg for ult is good

[pine slate]

Also is this actually true

[pine slate]

Idek what her main dmg source is

Is it mostly ult, or spread throughout her kit

[cerulean grotto]

@shadow holly so with Alisa patch, 1-5% gets 60 skulls, but from luna patch you need 1.8mil for 60 skulls?

[spiral merlin]

Lunas dmg is mainly split between her core and ult

[shadow holly]

ye cuz 1.8 is automatically 6 more

[cerulean grotto]

Wtf is this bs, they are basically telling us to get either 54 or 66

[shadow holly]

[cerulean grotto]

[spiral merlin]

The rest of her rot does basically no dmg in comparison

[shadow holly]

yea

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

but u should be able to 1.8 without much trouble
on most weeks still

I think

[cerulean grotto]

You sure?

[shadow holly]

[cerulean grotto]

[ashen edge]

just swipe more

[cerulean grotto]

What about only sig on dps?

[shadow holly]

no I'm yappin

[pine slate]

I mean

[cerulean grotto]

[pine slate]

1.8m shouldn't be too hard with double amp resos and tank resos

[shadow holly]

with that it won't be hard at all

[ashen edge]

i mean with a proper team 1.8 shouldnt be that hard ngl

[pine slate]

F2p invest anyways, everyone should be able to do it

[cerulean grotto]

I really want feral sig💀💀
But I have to luccsacc lamia sig

[shadow holly]

with good SS you should get 1.8, every time probably

[pine slate]

My acc invest is like

Half good half crippled ss0

[cerulean grotto]

[pine slate]

[cerulean grotto]

Shaddup whel

[ashen edge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JZ421U7iU/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0

[shadow holly]

like idk what times for bosses like Ballard and emperor look but
Lilith hell with SS0 is like
18s?

[cerulean grotto]

Your crippled is ss 5*

[cerulean grotto]

That's basically my main invest

[hollow imp]

Just get lucky

[pine slate]

I assume like 25s?

[cerulean grotto]

Blud don't go overboard, you got lucky just once, come back when you're lucky once again

[hollow imp]

Wdym once

[shadow holly]

https://youtu.be/XR6xDnX7Yiw?si=aXdXe7YH_FBoh6fl

[ashen edge]

38s *

[hollow imp]

WDYM ONCE??????????

[pine slate]

Windbell cn is high invest ss0 btw
For dark

[ashen edge]

with lowest invest ofc

[hollow imp]

Dang new bosses!!!!!

[pine slate]

Didn't windbell get like 37s on Ballard hell with his crippled fire?

[hollow imp]

I thought most all bosses from patches wont go to EXPPC?

[pine slate]

Without wata cub

[shadow holly]

ye I wasn't talking f2p invest there

[cerulean grotto]

WAIT

So hyperdawn cub more prio than wata cub?

[pine slate]

Idk?

[ashen edge]

no im talking about lilith hell

[pine slate]

Just get all cubs, wtf is the point of skipping

[hollow imp]

[cerulean grotto]

Until oblivion patch, lamia, wata and luna are most important cubs

[pine slate]

Wait wdym by low invest then

[ashen edge]

have you seen crippled fire on ballard?

ye good luck with this LOL

[pine slate]

[ashen edge]

i mean

[pine slate]

That's poverty fire

[gentle hedge]

can i het some help here........... with the cyberpunk............

[shadow holly]

augh wadahell he had r2 fish in the video

[ashen edge]

just watch emiliachan

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hK42187nN/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.-1&vd_source=0687f54140d379a05c6b1f65e967779e

[shadow holly]

still 600k with decent ss

[ashen edge]

you will figure why this mf still able to do 580k with most goofy ah team ever

2 A rank pair 💀

[shadow holly]

quadruple rot wata

[pine slate]

Emilialao

[hollow imp]

he dont do yt?

[cerulean grotto]

People do dorm missions?

[ashen edge]

because he is chinese no?

[cerulean grotto]

[river nymph]

[gentle hedge]

yes

[opaque ridge]

Eww dorm

[hollow imp]

Sophia useful certified

[steady otter]

Im javanese

[thorn creek]

Chinese plp can still access youtube with vpns

It's just a cat and mouse game on which vpns work and when the government shuts down the new vpns

[thorn creek]

Alisa cub not important? I thought it gave her crit damage boost?

[cerulean grotto]

Nah, not over actual dps

[thorn creek]

Oh well, more for feesh

[north sail]

Pulled on standard and kinda got hyperreal
What team does he use and can I use any copium wep for now?

[hollow imp]

New player?

[remote pier]

[north sail]

You can say that

I’m lvl 91

[spiral merlin]

He’s fire with liv empyrea and nanami starfarer but you only really want empy to go with him right now since mech is getting the boot relatively soon

[hollow imp]

Oh, not your first pity? You maxed pity standard? 60/60?

[spiral merlin]

He’ll sweep the story no matter what weapon you use but ideally 5/6* ofc

[north sail]

No it was at 50

[hollow imp]

I guess you are lucky but Lamia patch is right around that corner. Could've saved that so u can choose freely who u want to have

[north sail]

I don’t have nanami but I have liv is she alone okay

[hollow imp]

Pulse or Nanamech but i u dont have both u have to settle for off elem tank which is so bad :<

[spiral merlin]

Yes that’s a decent team already

[north sail]

Kinda sad I wanted stigmata but I don’t think it matters too much cuz it’s standard after all

[hollow imp]

U could've got her if u waited on Lamia patch since you can freely choose who u want

[shadow holly]

not entrobrick = win anyway

[hollow imp]

Sorry for not telling the context my bad xD On Lamia patch, which is 2 patches from now, there's an event where u can choose freely who to get on Standard Banner but only once

[spiral merlin]

It’s less an event and more a permanent thing that updates until you use it

[hollow imp]

Permanent event thing then

[north sail]

I’m sure hyperreal is still good right

[spiral merlin]

[hollow imp]

Yeah of course

[spiral merlin]

Yes one of the better standard units rn

[hollow imp]

What u missed was just the freedom to choose, nothing else xD

[north sail]

Have been relying on my liv for a fire dps for awhile

[dapper skiff]

You can get nanami from one of the free s rank selector given to Newbies

[thorn creek]

Yeah still got a year till replaced

[spiral merlin]

Once wata rolls around that’s an easy full fire team

[dapper skiff]

Only nanami pulse tho

[thorn creek]

So still meta for a year

[dapper skiff]

But they serves same role

[hollow imp]

He's still useable with 5* but 6* is a game changer xD

[hollow imp]

He is not a newbie, so he probably used it on other

[dapper skiff]

All nanamis in the game are only tank

[north sail]

It’s a she and yes I used it on plume

[spiral merlin]

nanaknight will be amp trust

[river nymph]

dark amp nana would go crazy

[hollow imp]

I identify as an axolotl

[north sail]

Any wep options or just pull for his wep and hope for the best

[hollow imp]

https://tenor.com/view/axolotl-smile-happy-cute-animal-smiling-gif-12642274

[north sail]

I don’t have any funds at all for it 😭

[spiral merlin]

Be careful with spending tickets anywhere rn

[hollow imp]

Then dont i guess xD I dont really know how 5* HR feels so xD

[spiral merlin]

You need enough for both watanabe and qu soon

[north sail]

Yeah I’m trynna save for the next s rank

[woven haven]

do not roll any old units unless you are a MAJOR spender

[hollow imp]

Next patch, I think Alisa sig is important

[woven haven]

noctis and alisa patches are saving patches for watanabe and qu patches WAY down the line because these are back to back

[hollow imp]

Just remember, you dont have to pull for the next patch's S rank. She is free via dorm currency. U only need her sig weap

[north sail]

She is?

[hollow imp]

Yes, same with Kaleido, Ice amplifier. You can buy her using dorm currency in Dorm Shop

She

[woven haven]

Basically the patch order goes like this

Noctis (A rank) -> Alisa (free) -> Lamia (must roll) -> BRS (Collab A rank. SKIP) -> Watanabe (must roll) -> Qu (must roll)

[north sail]

Wha I’m trying to get her right now 😭

[woven haven]

Do not spend on hyperreal

[spiral merlin]

Wata and qu are relatively close now

[north sail]

So next patch just get wep and dip?

[woven haven]

that is at least 15k BC you will never see again and if it costs you watanabe or qu you will deeply regret it

[dapper skiff]

Take your time, get Ayla first and Alisa after is reasonable

[north sail]

Damn back to back?!

[hollow imp]

By the end of BRS you should have around 25K BC at minimum and not spend any BC til Qu XD

[dapper skiff]

They're permanent to get from the dorm dispatch shop
You have nothing to rush for

[north sail]

Alr I’ll just give hyperreal what I have

Thanks y’all

[dapper skiff]

[hollow imp]

[thorn creek]

Void tank trust

[woven haven]

literally noctis + alisa is back to back as early saving

[thorn creek]

keep the tank series strong

[woven haven]

They cancel each other out which is why its important to not spend

during this time

[north sail]

i only came back on like the last 2 weeks of noctis

[woven haven]

do not get baited by BRS

[wet plover]

When choosing leader skills which is usually better. +10%Atk or +10%Elem Dmg?

[dapper skiff]

Whoever the dps is in that team

Karenina scire dps?
Uer her lead

Kaleido dps?
Use her lead

Now what team are you using with

[thorn creek]

element

[wet plover]

Like with the Cerberus Team i just noticed. Vera and Noc leader is +10%Light Dmg while 21 has 10%Atk

[shadow holly]

there is no general answer here
it's just about which gets diluted less

but also usually the leader used is the main DPS because they usually have the secondary boost effect for their own class

[thorn creek]

Mostly gonna make 21 or vera with that team

[woven haven]

cerb team feral has the most damage

[thorn creek]

Depends on who ur gonna make dps

[woven haven]

so go with that frankly

[shadow holly]

leader feral

yeah see she also has a secondary buff to amps so yeah use feral leader

[woven haven]

there are edge cases when the team has 2 “dmg dealers” but

[hazy sandal]

No general answer /
Usually for the one who is strong and goes a lot of time to finish its rotation activate its leader skill

[woven haven]

That one depends

There’s an argument for Hyperreal leader in Wata fire team

[thorn creek]

Then it mainly does to attacker unless its ice team

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

bc hyper needs help killing waves

[thorn creek]

Ice team ayla is leader always

[woven haven]

[hazy sandal]

Slight dmg lack then change its leader

[dapper skiff]

Main dps wannabe

[hazy sandal]

And Repeating this

[woven haven]

no its literally case by case basis

[thorn creek]

Wata sweeps compared to lee so he to liv would be leader

[woven haven]

No that’s not how it works

bruh i just said why hyper leader is a thing

[thorn creek]

of course like if u wanna one shot a boss with like darenina then obv choose her as leader

[dapper skiff]

Shouldn't have come here

[woven haven]

i’ve seen it used before
i’ve tried it myself and its actually not bad

Ok please just stop talking before you say anything else wrong

[dapper skiff]

Won't understand anything since the first place

Classic

[thorn creek]

?

[woven haven]

Jeez how the hell does one guy pop in and make so many wrong statements at once

[dapper skiff]

It's drako

[woven haven]

Hyper leader is a thing for warzone because he only has one rotation and the extra attacker buff can let him kill later waves more cleanly while watanabe is already strong enough that you can afford to give up the 5-10% class specific buff on him

[shadow holly]

if only

but it's just a drako clone

[woven haven]

Obviously PPC is Watanabe leader

[dapper skiff]

Please understand, he's been camping nothing but #💬・pgr-general only

[shadow holly]

[dapper skiff]

Really?

[shadow holly]

yes it's not him bruh

[dapper skiff]

Damn
They're clowning

[woven haven]

And where the everloving hellhole did “Liv leader” come from her leader skill sucks entirely when in watanabe team

[thorn creek]

nah not drako

[shadow holly]

drako is more braindamaged

[dapper skiff]

Oh i mean cloning

Accidentally put w there

[spiral merlin]

Wave management > pure dmg in a lot of wz cases tbh

[woven haven]

i swear that channel is a mistake

[spiral merlin]

At least the noctis change reduces the need for wave management

[woven haven]

But yeah seriously people underestimate the need for balancing out dmg

Hyper needs way more help on later waves

[dapper skiff]

Tbh radiates same yapping energy ngl

[woven haven]

if you can dedicate leader buff to him and its a whole wave’s difference that score can make or break your bracket

[shadow holly]

idk I've usually seen dragon be normal

[woven haven]

Empy leader is non viable because by then she’s on DV set and not doing damage

[shadow holly]

drako is just
insufferable

[dapper skiff]

[thorn creek]

welp

[shadow holly]

u good I'm not slandering

[dapper skiff]

Idk how could one be this much

[woven haven]

should have slandered more

[thorn creek]

it's ok i got the belt ready

https://tenor.com/view/jump-hanging-gif-20498305

[shadow holly]

[thorn creek]

Just saying in term of overall what i've seen in CN bilibili

Most plp have wata and liv mostly out in the field so I say them leader

[shadow holly]

skem bilibili 💯

[remote pier]

I've seen a few vids, and Liv is barely out in those

[shadow holly]

leader hyper

[woven haven]

Ok that’s just untrue by every metric

[shadow holly]

leader empy

[dapper skiff]

If it weren't because hyper being too sht as dmg dealer, we would never have to minmax leader skill

[shadow holly]

yea idk Empy leader doesn't look very good here

[dapper skiff]

But here we are

[woven haven]

You realise empy only has more field time than hyper because she’s slow as hell right

[remote pier]

Kuro's fault

[woven haven]

and she still does significantly less damage

[thorn creek]

no of course, there's different builds. some plp invested wata or liv more