📨・meta-help

[shadow holly]

grayravens.com or ask here

[short sleet]

Bet

[carmine reef]

Definitely do NOT look ingame

[shadow holly]

tbf prob better ask here cuz I've seen enough new people looking at GR and getting mad confused when a char has several builds

[carmine reef]

GR described the use cases and when to use them though...

[shadow holly]

sometimes reading build descriptions is hard

[carmine reef]

[mighty tusk]

Too bad some previous char builds dont have harmo builds

[remote pier]

they are missing Lotus harmo

[cerulean grotto]

Let them understand the hard way

[cerulean grotto]

No lotus harmo

Smh, trash website

[mighty tusk]

Surely. Lets have new players use cw 2 pc tifa

[cerulean grotto]

Lesgooo

[shadow holly]

why tf does empy still have Darwin build in her builds on the website

[mighty tusk]

No. Fr, I've seen players justify the use of tifa over cottie.

[shadow holly]

[cerulean grotto]

LET THEM COOK

[remote pier]

Darwin for SSS? idk

[stiff burrow]

Are u whel

[remote pier]

no

I barely retain hero

[cerulean grotto]

Wym no, show your sss+ acc

[shadow holly]

it could only be justified for SSS+ but still prob never used
idk if she uses Darwin in any set at all rn

also seeing Cottie Kaleido build noted as only PPC set for SS0 and higher makes me die inside

[rose yew]

lan can now stack
so all 3 unit with lan now gives 21% bonus dmg

[river nymph]

darwin is her normal set for s+

[shadow holly]

sure doesn't work without DLT in WZ but it's so nice if kale is built properly

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397610633790750733/1249894165693599755/image0.gif

[river nymph]

cottie only for ppc insta ult

[cerulean grotto]

You have only sss6?

So sorry

[river nymph]

assuming you guys are talking about empy

[cerulean grotto]

[shadow holly]

ah alright I thought she'd prefer smth else at S+ cuz there youd have like 3s Lee too at least and he would deal more damage

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-gif-19517415

[shadow holly]

surely no one has S+ emp and like SS0/SS3 hyper

[remote pier]

Genuine question, how to sleep w/ firework going on?

[cerulean grotto]

[cerulean grotto]

You sh**t them

[river nymph]

same

maybe just get blackout

[remote pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/668740847021326368/1000680913807605781/690981656005443585.gif

[shadow holly]

hmge CW is too slow to benefit from 4fred if you slam right?
4fred harmo is only for ult kills

[remote pier]

How long is Fred buff again?

[shadow holly]

after rework it's 4s after matrix trigger

2p effect is 5s which is enough usually

[remote pier]

She doesn't self trigger matrix so isn't it crap for her?

[shadow holly]

ult1

[remote pier]

O it's a matrix?

[shadow holly]

what did u think

SS weave

[velvet hedge]

Lucia • Crimson Weave

<:S_:1005718220663165050> <:attacker:1003700210821771336> <:lightning:1003687699653329066> Skills (Lvl. 18)

** Mortality Unbound **
Level 1 (S5): When Blade Force reaches the upper limit and unleashes Tranquil Flash, trigger all available QTEs.
Level 2 (SS): Upper limit of Lightless is increased to 600. 3-Pings and Tranquil Flash each fills Lightless by an additional 50 points. When using Weave: Turbulent Bolt, trigger Matrix if available.

10 / 12

[rose yew]

no

[remote pier]

I don't read her kit

[shadow holly]

why does Garnet build recommend core resos

the more I read the website the less motivated to advise it to newbies I am

fck that they should just ask builds here

[glass bay]

Miku

[shadow holly]

yo wait

[glass bay]

I found out ur a girl yesterday

[shadow holly]

my kryptonite
have they still not fixed cw weapon resos recommendations

[remote pier]

Wasn't it pre cw reso?

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

they did

[cerulean grotto]

Bro sees girl neuron activation

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

it was
but now on her main 4tifa 2ein build it still recommends core
which is ass

[jaunty beacon]

It's either not updated or they don't know

[lusty tendon]

after playing warzone again, i have come to the conclusion that i am washed

[remote pier]

Who's in charge of the website?

[lusty tendon]

[glass bay]

Can't believe any girl doesn't insta quit this server

[naive portal]

Does nier character become a flex character? Cause unobtainable anymore?

[cerulean grotto]

Just let others pilot

[glass bay]

Cooked?

[cerulean grotto]

[lusty tendon]

[remote pier]

Flex that they are dumb to pull for them?

[naive portal]

Idk never see anyone actually main them.

[ashen edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNCU9SfjMw bet

you forgot my man

[shadow holly]

everyone who mained nier quit probably

[naive portal]

Lmfao.

[lusty tendon]

i was a nier main for a whole year

[remote pier]

You kind of quit

[cerulean grotto]

It was hell for people like us

😭😭😭

[naive portal]

Imagine a collab with touhou.

[lusty tendon]

🤔

[cerulean grotto]

Nier

[shadow holly]

what team invest is this

[cerulean grotto]

[ashen edge]

2.034 iirc

[river nymph]

[ashen edge]

[shadow holly]

[lusty tendon]

well to be fair, it wasn't actually the full nier team that was the best

[ashen edge]

ackchan da goat

[lusty tendon]

after rosetta's horse came out it was a2/ rosetta/ 9s

[shadow holly]

3s mech is mental

[lusty tendon]

also fire team at the time was garn/ pulse/ empyrea

lmao

[shadow holly]

garnet?

[lusty tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jObASSd-a_I

[shadow holly]

should I be glad I skipped the dark ages?

[river nymph]

[lusty tendon]

[shadow holly]

I started on like
glory patch and played for a bit
and quit just before Garnet
and cam back on mech

[ashen edge]

oh ye you didnt know the dark ages of wz

glory (garn)/pulse/empy

thats ur fire team there

[lusty tendon]

back then empyrea ult didn't time stop

LOL

[ashen edge]

true

[cerulean grotto]

Wym i used empy/Sophia/ember

[ashen edge]

poverty gamer sorry

i dont relate to that team

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74kKKm3xHgA

[carmine reef]

tf was that thumbnail LOL

[ashen edge]

fuq i forgor the thum

[cerulean grotto]

@lusty tendon

[lusty tendon]

lol clown wz days

[ashen edge]

but anyway, thats the old fire team after mech patch

[lusty tendon]

good times

[rose yew]

congrats you're earlier than 90% of the people then

[ashen edge]

ya clown wz days

[lusty tendon]

this is when empy got time stop on ult

and mecha released

that patch was wild

[ashen edge]

it beat my ss light team LOL

good old day clown wz

[river nymph]

[lethal sun]

OMG YES I LOVE THE NIER TEAM ERA , I WOULD DIE FOR THE NIER TEAM TO BECOME META AGAIN, THESE OLD NIER WZ VIDEOS CHANGED MY LIFE, AND IT IS THE BEST ERA EVER

[ashen edge]

ok bozo

[lethal sun]

But it was a good era tho

I still played wz back then

Boomerge

[hazy sandal]

Hello boomers I am necromorph

[ashen edge]

[livid lark]

a girl that memes

you a rare specimen

[dapper skiff]

Exactly

[dapper skiff]

But still beats 99% players by default

[cerulean grotto]

Ngl

I never expected that

I like memers

Always up for drama

Isn't it fun to stir sht up and enjoy in the sidelines later?

Gaslighting is peak

@winter scarab

@dapper skiff help this guy here^

He needs help in planning his future state of account

[dapper skiff]

No

[cerulean grotto]

You shud

[winter scarab]

Bro i need help with my account

[cerulean grotto]

[dapper skiff]

Kill muself

[cerulean grotto]

Help him plz

[winter scarab]

Who needs help

[cerulean grotto]

I need to go mald

[winter scarab]

Gl bro

[winter scarab]

Don't bro kill someone instead

[cerulean grotto]

[ashen edge]

[dapper skiff]

No

That's evil

Hurting people bad

[dapper skiff]

What to use on elite tifa

No cw also feral resos fcked

[winter scarab]

[dapper skiff]

Need cw for chaos hell lamia

[sand laurel]

[ashen edge]

ice team lets go

[dapper skiff]

Ight

Pig malding
Let's gooo

[sand laurel]

cw skipper?

[livid lark]

[sand laurel]

or was that whole account skip

[livid lark]

someone skipping cw

[ashen edge]

[stuck sphinx]

[winter scarab]

[dapper skiff]

Hwo good is 323 fire team for knight or even elite lamia tho

Still worse than 3s3 kale?

[ashen edge]

dunno, i dont have sss fire team

test it by urself

[dapper skiff]

If that's the only way
Then

[stuck sphinx]

Wtf whel

That should be able to oneshot maybe even hell

[ashen edge]

maybe able to 10s easily

[dapper skiff]

Actually nvm

I'm slacking this week

Bro come back to his acc, wantap red liv till chaos and locked all 5 balt ap for red liv

Would have went 4 red liv 1 lamia

Bombi can do red liv test

His score is

That 15s hell tifa went to a waste

[ashen edge]

[stuck sphinx]

Sounds like you’re not getting paid enough

[dapper skiff]

Tru

Time to pump up the prices

Treats to sell his acc if he refuses while at it

clueless

[pine slate]

[stuck sphinx]

Dazzalao

[digital moat]

[nova forum]

[jaunty beacon]

I only know 2.323 is 12s chaos

[pine slate]

What

I get 11s with ice

O wait chaos nvm

My chaos is 12s with light

[jaunty beacon]

I don't think fire is faster than ice below. Maybe it's different for 3s lee, but it shouldn't

[pine slate]

Ice fast on ppc

Suck on wz

[dapper skiff]

Solo kale right?

[stuck sphinx]

Ofc

[ashen edge]

[winter scarab]

Guys

Is anni on echo's or lamia's patch?

[carmine reef]

echo

[winter scarab]

The 100% base banner also in it right?

[cerulean grotto]

Yes

[carmine reef]

no

not base banner, anni is yellow ticket banner

the base banner selector is lamia

[cerulean grotto]

Ohh that one

Yea I'm dumb

[shy bane]

it's better to save the base banner selector on lamia patch right?

[carmine reef]

depends what you need

[shy bane]

hmm... elaborate more?

[winter scarab]

[carmine reef]

if you still are missing lots of meta units it's better to fill them out rather than waiting, since you should still be able to get the new units anyway

[shy bane]

currently i only have lightning base team : noctis lux chrome
gonna pull stig from anniv then pick rigor and alisha

[winter scarab]

Get cw

[shy bane]

cw w/o garnet and feral still good? will lux and chrome sufficient for her team

[carmine reef]

you should get cw from lamia standard

[winter scarab]

Yea cw still do alot of damge without garnet and feral

[carmine reef]

asap

cw solo still >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noctis

[winter scarab]

And stigmata will be free but in like a year

[carmine reef]

by the time you get a free stigmata she won't even be main dps in phys content

[shy bane]

they are releasing gen3 alrd right

[mighty tusk]

You sure?

[winter scarab]

She still is the meta attacker tho

[carmine reef]

not in global

[winter scarab]

Lucia outh something

[carmine reef]

yeah i'm just saying it's better to pull her now while she's still the most important piece of the team

rather than waiting for a year down the line

[shy bane]

okayyy, thank you

[carmine reef]

bricking yourself just to wait for when she's less important

[mighty tusk]

Also cw is getting a leap btw

[winter scarab]

And stigmata

[winter scarab]

Yea ofc but need more bc

[glass bay]

[winter scarab]

And don't forget there's a free s selector in Luna's patch if i remember correctly

[mighty tusk]

Up to kaleido

[winter scarab]

Yea

Dk what to choose maybe scire

She's still meta tank in cn right

[mighty tusk]

Dark tank and ionization meta as well

[winter scarab]

Ohh yea cuz of her leap

[glass bay]

no, coz no replacement for her yet

[winter scarab]

I'm talking about the ionization part

[analog cargo]

daren light part we dont talk about it

[digital moat]

@shadow holly

[pine slate]

[digital moat]

hi whel

[shy bane]

are past free shards still obtainable somewhere?

[floral sinew]

[shy bane]

like selena capriccio

[digital moat]

I built fred cw for this 17s chaos tifa kill

[floral sinew]

selena event

[digital moat]

From RDF event

[shy bane]

those are still accessible even now?

[floral sinew]

yea

[shy bane]

oh wow, that's really nice

[digital moat]

On alternative perception

Along with cursed waves

[analog cargo]

have fun farming it

[shy bane]

how about S Rank selector duting Starfarer debut
is it just gone

[digital moat]

Gone

[analog cargo]

ye

[shy bane]

sadge

aight, thank you

[analog cargo]

lamia has the selector

and luna has another selector

so

[glass bay]

How long is the cow event

[cerulean grotto]

[naive portal]

When is that?

[mighty tusk]

January

[naive portal]

Bruh.

[glass bay]

well, how long is it?

[cerulean grotto]

What cow event?

[glass bay]

the dumpling thing

[cerulean grotto]

What dumpling

[glass bay]

dumplings and dragons

they go play dnd with gray ravens and cow

[cerulean grotto]

Oh that side story

Nah I skipped it

Will read it later

Didn't know how long it will last that why I read it

[glass bay]

i see

[nova forum]

Who should I choose from void Luna selector, hyper or daren

[cerulean grotto]

Daren

Hyper can go die

Blud already got c**ked

[jade rain]

Daren

Daren becomes even more of a higher priority with Lucia's release

[mighty tusk]

Daren is necessary for new lucia to use ionization dmg without going through a lot of moves/steps

[zenith thorn]

daren is such a must

no daren

gg

[mighty tusk]

You were gonna get her in lamia standard to begin with

[wet escarp]

Is it necessary to pull for capriccio's sig weap?

[mighty tusk]

if u want smoother rotations

better if u also have ss3 daren with sig along with capri

[chilly totem]

Hello. I'm very confused and I'm level 21. How do you play this game?

How do you also unlock the characters other new clothes and weapons?

I think i asked on the wrong chat earlier?

[wet escarp]

Dont have daren.
Only have luna and 21

[ionic sapphire]

Is the unique animation with Vera, Noctis, and 21 not on this patch yet?

[zenith thorn]

event only

[ionic sapphire]

Oh is the Meandering Three?

[zenith thorn]

yep

[ionic sapphire]

Okeh

[chilly totem]

Bump

[mighty tusk]

yea, if your capri is that low of an invest, dont bother with her

[zenith thorn]

free coatings?
in the shop

[chilly totem]

Bump this too because I'm still confused

[zenith thorn]

go to #1220163911723253760

[wet escarp]

Then what's the purpose of my capriccio? Sub dps or healer?

[chilly totem]

It says i need to unlock something and i can't find it how to because I'm confused as heck

[zenith thorn]

worthless if sss rozen

[zenith thorn]

probably level limited
get to lvl 60 to get most stuff

[wet escarp]

My rozen only ss ;-;

[zenith thorn]

then cappy have slightly more value

[ionic sapphire]

Is the Meandering Three event tied to noctis' side story?

[raw swift]

Has anyone else read the dumplings and dragons side story? Is it important to continue it? Cuz rn I'm just focusing on grinding for black cards and I read only the first chapter

[zenith thorn]

the story contain,yes

[chilly totem]

Ah. Ok² thank you

[mighty tusk]

the event occurs after

[wet escarp]

So like, rozen sss better than capriccio ss with sig?

[ionic sapphire]

Alright time to blitz through Hanying's and 21's while still reading and shoving the information in my brain

[raw swift]

Idk, but I got Noctis' punk dynamo skin even though I don't have him

[mighty tusk]

IF you rotate instead of soloing with luna

[zenith thorn]

ss sig cappy is BETTER if you are swapping

sss rozen is better if solo

[ionic sapphire]

I mena you can get the skin from the event even if you don't own him

[raw swift]

My blind ass read that as "rozen ass better"

[zenith thorn]

she has no gyat

[shy bane]

daren is who

[mighty tusk]

scire

[glass bay]

Rozen is flat

[raw swift]

Yeah but how do I use it when I don't even have him lmao

[wet escarp]

Ahh ok ok thanks

[ionic sapphire]

One must own to use the skin so yeh

[zenith thorn]

you can unlock him from event shop

[raw swift]

I can???

[ionic sapphire]

I am gonna be having Noctis on my A rank selector cuz I love his fighting style

[zenith thorn]

yeah

[zenith thorn]

noc wouldn't be on the beginner selector

[raw swift]

I keep dying to bosses in the wild hunt event thing when I use him lmao

Idk how to properly do his damage cycle without losing around 60% of my health

[zenith thorn]

noc is sh*t to begin with anyway

[raw swift]

Somehow I can do much better with feral

[ionic sapphire]

I meant to say the Standard Banner, where you can choose a specific A Rank

I am gonna have Noctis stay on that till I SSS+ because I like his fighting style, that's it

[mighty tusk]

noctis is there though?

[chilly totem]

I skipped all story lines and just fought monster as i was told to by the game. Is it worth skipping them?

[raw swift]

I'm immediately hopping on and getting him

[ionic sapphire]

When you've been playing this game since day 1, you develop muscle memory to just click with any character...

Plus some initial training with other games that makes you play different character... Figting games especially..

[raw swift]

Depends. If you really like the story, then no. If you have little to no time when playing and want to get through as much content as possible till your next class/work day/whatever, then you can go ahead and skip. You can re read all the chapters again at a later date without the fighting

[raw swift]

An inferior mobile user cannot stand toe to toe with the PC Master race

[ionic sapphire]

Story is completely on you, but even if I am rushing Hanying's I want to know the character and understand them as a character and their importance to the world, be it miniscule..

[ionic sapphire]

You will reach there my friend... You will

[glass bay]

[zenith thorn]

i mislick

didn't hear anything right?

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/moistcritikal-penguinz0-charlie-misinput-it-was-a-misinput-gif-23090919

[chilly totem]

Tons of questions.
Is there any way to earn this Thing?

[ionic sapphire]

I am curious when did you start playing?

[raw swift]

Early game missions

[ionic sapphire]

That's with real money

[zenith thorn]

skip stories
atleast till ch 9
ch9 gets nice

[zenith thorn]

💳

[raw swift]

but this is much more valuable

[mighty tusk]

voodoo is not visible in norman

[chilly totem]

[zenith thorn]

rc is much more valuable

rc is paid

[raw swift]

Wait what was rc again?

[glass bay]

Credit card is much more valuable

[raw swift]

Oh that

[zenith thorn]

rainbow card premium currency

[raw swift]

Yeah but for f2p black card is the way

[chilly totem]

How do you use that thing? Do you use it to buy weapons or anything?
(New player i apologize in Advance if i asked a dumb question)

[zenith thorn]

gacha currency

[raw swift]

You use it to convert it to OTHER cards for gacha pulls

[chilly totem]

What's that?

[zenith thorn]

first gacha?
currency to get new characters and/or weapon

HOWEVER you are highly discouraged to get 6* weapon as f2p

[chilly totem]

I have a lot of questions to ask you guys but i think i should stop rn

[zenith thorn]

just ask away

what kind of community shut down newbies lol

we are more than happy to help

[mighty tusk]

unless they like bricks

[chilly totem]

Alright, what's a F2p?

[zenith thorn]

however
most of the questions are probably answered in #1220163911723253760 already

[zenith thorn]

free 2 play
players that don't spend any real money in a game
aka normal financial responsible people

[glass bay]

Aka no human rights ppl

[chilly totem]

Bricks? Is that a game character?

[nova forum]

How complex is S Wanshi gameplay?

[zenith thorn]

it's a community term against people that "bricked" their account
aka bad meta decision

[zenith thorn]

just press red stoopid

[glass bay]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-ardeo-pgr-bridget-pgr-pgr-bridget-gif-6727494686276777476

[zenith thorn]

-some cn player idk

[cerulean grotto]

You sure?

[nova forum]

Wtf

[zenith thorn]

except you and miku
yall troll

[cerulean grotto]

I help honestly

[chilly totem]

Ohhh i see

[nova forum]

How much value does sss3 Daren provide for ion zone?

[glass bay]

But we also make sure to let F2p know they have no rights

[sterile rune]

I'll take Rigor from here right? in the guide for novice guidance?

[nova forum]

Also is ion zone a thing?

[cerulean grotto]

Dunno

[jade rain]

Yes

[mighty tusk]

if no rigor, pick rigor there

[cerulean grotto]

Lightning zone with ion environment yes

[jade rain]

SSS scire

Too long

[nova forum]

It's the sss3 skill that I want

[cerulean grotto]

Ask aetherlao

[zenith thorn]

yes

[nova forum]

I need like, 121 shards to get sss3 Daren

[zenith thorn]

all affix will be wz zone
sofar only ion,slash and void affix

[jade rain]

SSS3 is basically more orbs, Daren gains an extra 3 ping chance up to 4 times

Triggered by holding BA

[rose yew]

we provide a special care service for the beginners

[zenith thorn]

tho void = its affix right?

[jade rain]

Disorder

[zenith thorn]

no change in calc

[jade rain]

Void = element
Disorder = affix

[zenith thorn]

yeah that
disorder just decrease the shield

[zenith thorn]

in wz sense

since void and disorder zone is put together

[jade rain]

Not needed

Minimum SS3 sig + leap

Sss3 extra orbs

[gusty hamlet]

is there a reason ayla brilliance is recommended as qte bot tank over kamui bastion? both their qtes have same amt of def shred

[nova forum]

Already have ss3 1r Daren

[gusty hamlet]

although maybe there's a part of their core passives im missing

[jade rain]

Then it's enough

[mighty tusk]

because ayla qte hits more times than bastion

[cerulean grotto]

High proc rate

[zenith thorn]

just qtes difference

[glass bay]

Fk whel

[gusty hamlet]

oh I see

[glass bay]

How strong is SSS lamia btw

[mighty tusk]

[zenith thorn]

yes

[mighty tusk]

no sh*t it's strong

[nova forum]

Fk whel

[naive portal]

Should I spend all of my stamina into wasteland?

[glass bay]

[zenith thorn]

event resources?
only after you cleared 5-7

[naive portal]

I did.

[cerulean grotto]

Farm character shards

[zenith thorn]

then yeah

[gusty hamlet]

if I used both of them does the effect stack?

[zenith thorn]

no

[gusty hamlet]

owh

[zenith thorn]

same name no stack

[naive portal]

Which shard?

[jade rain]

More abussos points, higher damage, obtain deluge orb on entry

[zenith thorn]

rozen,no21 priority

[cerulean grotto]

Whatever you need

[glass bay]

Become walking nuke?

[gusty hamlet]

if i need two qte bots for fire team what should I do

ayla is one of them

[zenith thorn]

lux
ayla

lux can chane to rozen

[gusty hamlet]

ty

[cerulean grotto]

Sophia is truly hated

[zenith thorn]

who?

[dapper skiff]

Who?

[cerulean grotto]

I would get banned for what I'm about to say

So no u

[dapper skiff]

Saying a construc from adilek would get you banned?

That's wild

[jade rain]

It's a good damage increase 350 abussos points - 600

[dapper skiff]

(Plz don't ban me mods)

[mighty tusk]

15 more days

[naive portal]

while waiting for Alisa who's good replacements?

[mighty tusk]

a-hanying

[naive portal]

So Rosetta - Liv - Hanying?

[mighty tusk]

yes...

[analog coral]

Oh

Liv gets thrown out the door once echo comes

[naive portal]

Ik that's why temporary replacement.

[jade rain]

SSS lamia 350% base damage → 600% base danage on Hold BA in ult 1

[analog coral]

But it's kinda oof

[jade rain]

@glass bay

[glass bay]

wtf

so just bigger number basically

[woven haven]

that doesn’t matter

[jade rain]

[woven haven]

you skip the hold BA like almost 80% of the time

on SSS Lamia

Literally haven’t used it once in WZ for months since her patch

[weak jackal]

Hewwo, im sorry if this is not the correct channel to ask, but anyway, i'm interested in playing pgr and want to try it, my question is as a new completely new player, is there any guarantee way for me to get lee hyperreal?

[dapper skiff]

July 23th

[carmine reef]

there are multiple

[dapper skiff]

Probably tyoed that wrong

[woven haven]

what you actually care about when it comes to sss lamia is the ult1 now does dmg and you get a lvl2 orb on entry swap rather than lvl1

[carmine reef]

jul 16 for anni banner

[mighty tusk]

anniversary is next patch

[carmine reef]

or august for standard selector

[mighty tusk]

anniversary banner will containt ALL past units

for 100% rate up

[weak jackal]

Does that mean i can choose him as main target or something?

[mighty tusk]

yes

[jade rain]

Does abussos point increase even matter?

[cerulean grotto]

Another bricklao

[weak jackal]

Ooo, will i have enough time to collect the resources though?

[cerulean grotto]

@jade rain @mighty tusk don't you guys tell me that I willingly troll people

[mighty tusk]

do stories quickly

[cerulean grotto]

[woven haven]

**Upon entry or swapping in, obtain an additional Deluge Orb. **Energy gained when pinging Tidal Orb in Primordial Form increases by 10. Performing Prelude of Madness in Tempest deals 4500% Dark DMG to enemies. Maximum amount of Abussos Points increases to 600. The rate in which Lamia accumulates Abussos Points when performing Tidal Orb, Deluge Orb or 3-Pings increases by 200%.

only two relevant points to lamia sss, you save a 3ping and 1s on entry + you do actual dmg on ult1 now

[weak jackal]

What bricklao mean

[mighty tusk]

ignore him

[cerulean grotto]

Dalao of bricks

[cerulean grotto]

[weak jackal]

Okay...

[mighty tusk]

just make sure that advice is not actually trolling

[woven haven]

The hold atk in Lamia ult mode is not relevant for a lot of her rotations at sss level
Mostly ppc thing

[cerulean grotto]

@weak jackal skip hyperreal

[mighty tusk]

because of overkilling a wave?

[cerulean grotto]

I'm not trolling

[opaque ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/thierry-henry-thierry-henry-arsenal-roam-gif-21292008

[weak jackal]

Okay, so i can have a chance to gather enough resources by just stories?

[weak jackal]

B-but i want do cool pew pew 😦

[woven haven]

extends rotation quite significantly

[opaque ridge]

thank you for the $50

[cerulean grotto]

<@&595893856554319873>

[mighty tusk]

stories + interlude

[woven haven]

And goes past amp passive duration

[cerulean grotto]

He doesn't do pew pew dawg💀

He's like the worst choice to get

Cw best unit to pull as newbie

[raw swift]

What happened?

I just got back from eating the BEST Dino buggies ever

[cerulean grotto]

Greedy mods stole 50$ from me

[mighty tusk]

generous people (scam link)

[cerulean grotto]

[weak jackal]

Okay but, i just want to play him for now?, future problem is for future me

[wise jasper]

whats empyrea build once u got epitaph ?
still use elizabeth - cottie or changed to davinci

[raw swift]

Cry

/jk I know how that feels bro

[jade rain]

Why do most ice runs I see with qu especially wz does ' Hold BA while having 2 stacks of 3 orbs → cancel by pinging matrix orb/3 orb then into core '

Most runs that I did see do this were SSS @woven haven

[cerulean grotto]

That's the current problem

You need cw to get powerful faster

[raw swift]

What's epitaph again? I'm still new and I have empy lmao

[cerulean grotto]

[mighty tusk]

wata fire tank

[opaque ridge]

whats epitaph?

[ashen edge]

none, you dont even spin btw

[wise jasper]

tank watanabe

[raw swift]

Ahh

[mighty tusk]

@woven haven what's empy build both pre leap and post leap with wata and hyper?

[raw swift]

The upcoming tank watanabe?

[weak jackal]

Welp okay, anyway thanks @mighty tusk for the answer! Really help for my planning

[mighty tusk]

coming this october btw

[dapper skiff]

It just 4dv 4guin both pre and post rework

[wise jasper]

yeah

[jade rain]

Empy build post harmo is 4 dv 2 eins 2 guin iirc as a general build

[dapper skiff]

4dv 4 guin
4dv 2 guin 2 eins

[mighty tusk]

wasn't there a case where she can hold 4 eliza?

[woven haven]

dv guin/eins at that point

[raw swift]

Oh. BTW nice shikicum pfp.

[dapper skiff]

Not anymore lulw

[mighty tusk]

empy the dv holder

[dapper skiff]

Wata debut = empy doesn't use eliz anymore

I believe even for s+ empy

[raw swift]

Da vinky?

[jade rain]

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

that’s literally just because hold BA is cancellable and you need that move for sss combo
its just basic qu

[cerulean grotto]

@mighty tusk you helped brick a person

[woven haven]

no special tech

[jade rain]

Oh

[cerulean grotto]

[wise jasper]

i see, can u harmo 5* weapon ?

[carmine reef]

nnin dumb dumb stupidhead

[carmine reef]

no

[wise jasper]

👍

[ashen edge]

no

[mighty tusk]

you sure?

[ashen edge]

[raw swift]

Hi zex!

[cerulean grotto]

Yeah

[carmine reef]

hi

[wise jasper]

dangit

[woven haven]

https://youtu.be/WbPCvmoc50I?si=fL1VIvCeFd84NXSZ
see here lamia doesn’t use hold BA in wz

[cerulean grotto]

You're my comrade

[mighty tusk]

as long as he does not complain about hyperreal powercreep

[ashen edge]

f2p get cucked frfr

[woven haven]

lmao no

[cerulean grotto]

Stop acting like you care about newbies

Help me and miku troll

[mighty tusk]

that's your job, not mine

[cerulean grotto]

Doesn't look like it from what I've seen today

[stiff burrow]

Hyperreal more like hypofake

[mighty tusk]

he'll prob get cw from somewhere

[stiff burrow]

I'm coping hard

[woven haven]

I mean hyperreal has been powercrept twice already

[mighty tusk]

seeing new players are gonna go for cw on lamia standard

[cerulean grotto]

One just went for hyperreal thanks to you

[quartz dove]

time to skip

[woven haven]

Skipping ur life saves more money

[jade rain]

People can finally justify skipping him?

[woven haven]

for your parents

[quartz dove]

[jade rain]

Daren Skippers in shambles

[cerulean grotto]

Why don't you prove it first

[jade rain]

[cerulean grotto]

[quartz dove]

wdym darren skipper in shamble

who need ion anyway

[jade rain]

No ion team

[mighty tusk]

just skip ionization team then

[raw swift]

I want to ask you a question. Since fire tank watanabe is pretty far from now, should I just improve my Nanapulse without putting that much resources into her?

[carmine reef]

no not really

pulse doesn't need investment beyond the correct memory set

[woven haven]

see
a small piece of rubber costs less than all the money u spend on hospital, food for the next 18+ years, toys, maybe new house or at least new furniture, school fees, clothes, etc etc

[mighty tusk]

you can kinda give pulse dv eins with tank class reso

[carmine reef]

and wata also isn't really that far, it's only 3 months

[raw swift]

Noted

[jade rain]

[woven haven]

wata far away oh boy

these glb people about to get a rude shock when wata shows up earlier than they think

then qu right after

[jade rain]

Glb and their 2 week patches

[quasi vale]

u gonna cope like I do until wata, I swap empy and ember, pmuch same performance

[mighty tusk]

you can expect players to not be able to get him because they pulled BRS

[woven haven]

yeah i know
pgr glb players are just that dunb anyways its hopeless for them

[jade rain]

How long are glb patches anyway? I heard they're catching up to cn

[woven haven]

they will skip literally the most influential meta unit for the next 6 months

[jade rain]

A month?

[mighty tusk]

roughly

[woven haven]

because he’s a male or smth

[mighty tusk]

but long patches can get up to 45 days +

[bright void]

yall is it worth investing into lee palefire

im pretty late into the game and honestly not like i can get more characters cause im waiting for the new banners

[woven haven]

not really

[quasi vale]

we're saving few days on most patches by shortening a little and skipping downtime

[woven haven]

glb average is 36 days
between 28-42 days

[bright void]

the only fire attacker i have thats good rn is ember 😭

[woven haven]

CN avg is 42 days

between 35-49

[mighty tusk]

yea, but wintry shackles and fake ascension patch was long in gbl iirc

[jade rain]

That's about a week difference

[mighty tusk]

on avg, it is lower

[woven haven]

yeah because you drop right after even more

that the “long” patch just doesn’t make a difference

[quasi vale]

ye on some patch we didn't make any gain

[woven haven]

The avg i calc’d (36 days) is after factoring longer patches

[jade rain]

How will glb people afford wata and qu back to back

[woven haven]

they’re idiots
they won’t

[mighty tusk]

skip alisa sig

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

despite the fact that noctis and echo are saving patches

the idiots are still spending bc

somewhere, somehow

[mighty tusk]

currently 10250 BC + 2400 event tickets and counting

that wata and qu back to back is gonna kill me

[shadow holly]

just brick Wata/Qu for Alisa sig 💯

[jade rain]

And permanently damage your phys score with no dv carrier?

[mighty tusk]

alisa sig over wata and qu back to back?

imma get it later

[jade rain]

Skip all 3

[mighty tusk]

fr, let's just get cw on arrival and have her carry all my elements

[jade rain]

Oh, that brings me

We should have introduced aether to that one person

[mighty tusk]

which one?

[deft apex]

We are mever catching up, that a myth

[jade rain]

The one that's planning to S+ R3 BRS

[dapper skiff]

He already gone ages ago

[quasi vale]

+sig

[dapper skiff]

[bright void]

when is brs coming anyway

[dapper skiff]

R3 is impossible without sig

[mighty tusk]

september

[dapper skiff]

Already self explanatory

[mighty tusk]

brs is skip patch though

gonna be laughing at wata skippers

[woven haven]

ignore brs

[raw swift]

do you remember?

[bright void]

but brs is cool!!!
i want her!!!!

[woven haven]

literally the most easy way to mess up your account

[bright void]

im not gonna max her out or anything but i want her!!!!

[woven haven]

is to pull for brs at all

[mighty tusk]

you get 1 copy for free though

[woven haven]

she’s an A rank you get a free copy

[chilly totem]

How do u kill this guy?

[raw swift]

the 21st night of September?

[dapper skiff]

Get a btter character and team

[woven haven]

the problem is you can’t get signature or go higher in ranks without spending BC and basically screwing up your account for the next 2 years

[raw swift]

Git gud (No actually git good, I struggled with him for a while)

[woven haven]

that’s how bait she is

[chilly totem]

[woven haven]

A rank BRS is useless in meta anyways

[chilly totem]

Damn it looks like I'll have to train a lil

[woven haven]

cool or not she’s actually not that fun to play without high invest and she’s irrelevant at all investments

[bright void]

oh then thats all i need then

[raw swift]

Or you could just lvl up your frames till you deal a lot of damage

[bright void]

is she THAT bad 😭
like worse than lee palefire or something??

[woven haven]

You’re locked at A rank because you can’t farm her beyond the free copy

and the literal next patch is the next fire dps and tank watanabe

who eclipses her in every way

[dapper skiff]

Not really

[chilly totem]

I just got finished leveling up their weapons also what frames?

[mighty tusk]

P.S. Skipping wata is gonna make your fire significantly worse

[woven haven]

if you spend on BRS and can’t afford the b2b S ranks later that’s your problem to deal witth

[dapper skiff]

The worst part about brs ALMOST EVERYTHING about it is locked behind paywall (black cards)

[mighty tusk]

since wata is fire main dps and benches hyperreal to subdps

[raw swift]

Idk, what do you have right now?

Let the people here see

[chilly totem]

Hang on I'll just screen shot it

[woven haven]

Watanabe will be fire main dps and even if you wanted to make BRS viable she needs Watanabe for that in the first place rendering the point of investing in BRS moot and irrelevant

[rose yew]

wdym brs rank up is just damage boost

[woven haven]

s5, ss, ss3 and sss have mechanics

SS3 in particular is needed for stable rotation

[raw swift]

These are veteran terms I'm too new to understand

[rose yew]

also can I skip alisa

[woven haven]

if you even want to play her

[woven haven]

ranks (dupes)

[bright void]

i guess im not getting brs then 😭
even tho i dont really like doing meta

[woven haven]

you’ll only bother with s5 and ss if you’re not a whale since that’s obtainable as f2p

[bright void]

cause i heard the new characters coming up are cool

[mighty tusk]

*more busted than current units

[woven haven]

Every new S rank unit will powercreep an existing meta unit

usually the older ones

[chilly totem]

Idk what else to screenshot
I used liv, lucia and bianca to fight this vampire guy idk

[raw swift]

No tank in your team????

[mighty tusk]

no 6* memories.....

also no tanks

[bright void]

dnc
if the next one looks cool and plays fun im getting it

[rose yew]

we have a vampire boss?

[raw swift]

Swap Bianca for nanami

[chilly totem]

What do you mean? The show up members to confirm before you fought?

[mighty tusk]

why is nanami storm in the bench?

[dapper skiff]

I mean meta is literally why this channel was made

If you don't care about it since the first place this is the last place you should be asking advices

[raw swift]

Bianca and Lucia are damage dealers, Liv is a support/healer

[woven haven]

yeah that’s a mindset you’re really going to regret later

[raw swift]

Nanami is a tank

[bright void]

i forgot this isnt #💬・pgr-general LMAO

[woven haven]

half of the Base S kits are locked behind SS rank which requires farming endgame modes

[dapper skiff]

Can't regret anything when he already quit

[mighty tusk]

SURELY ex06, ult ppc isnt gonna drive them away

[chilly totem]

No clue what I'm doing right now

[woven haven]

so literally all units will play very differently between S and SS

[mighty tusk]

replace either lotus or zero for nanami storm

[woven haven]

base S is more crippled and SS is actually the “baseline” where they start to feel good to play

[naive portal]

Is the "hit pity" before selecting the S rank choice method still relevant?

[woven haven]

Esp true for certain units like Qu

[chilly totem]

Alright

[woven haven]

“I like fun playstyle” people when the fun unit they have requires meta gaming to unlock half of their base kit

[raw swift]

Maybe swap out lotus for nanami

[woven haven]

actually feels horrible to play base S units

but ig if you never upgrade to ss you don’t know what you’re missing so

ignorance is bliss ig

[mighty tusk]

base s feral though

• feral skippers

[jaunty beacon]

baited by s+ youtubers

[woven haven]

they can cope in the corner when ion teams come and they’re missing 2/3rds of the comp

[mighty tusk]

dont forget daren skippers

[flint salmon]

Yeah

[woven haven]

oh and to be extra evil kuro makes story trial characters SSS+ by default so you get a taste of power before its all taken away by your pitiful base S in regular content

[mighty tusk]

both daren AND feral are some of the most skipped units in gbl

[woven haven]

considering those 2 are the ones whose value went up significantly post release
GLB is just dumb as hell

[bright void]

i
jesus christ now this is making me contemplate if pgr's as fun as i think it is LMAO

holy hell 😭

[mighty tusk]

this is a meta channel btw

[naive portal]

Is hitting pity on day 1 possible?

[mighty tusk]

0.5% chance s-rank

[naive portal]

Like 40 pull on the base banner when you start fresh.

[woven haven]

Actually funny that daren has gotten 6 buffs to her relevance and feral got like 4
and glb still thinks they’re bad or too costly when they’re solidly the best options existing regardless of rank

[mighty tusk]

0.5% chance for s-rank

[bright void]

no wonder why people mention being sentenced to #📨・meta-help

[flint salmon]

I would say no even if you know what you're doing and don't use bc, if you want to rerroll it's long but start an account and use the standard 10 pull at level 10 and keep repeating until you get something good.

[glass bay]

I see I see

Much nicer rotation then

[naive portal]

Aight.

[flint salmon]

It's faster then waiting for 40 but hell on earth with how many times you will be repeating it

[mighty tusk]

by the time both daren and feral becomes more relevant with ionization, the avg glblul would have quit by then

[quartz dove]

yeah this is the land of fake f2p, whel and dalao careful

[analog coral]

Aetherlao

[flint salmon]

Good luck , do you have anyone you want in mind

[naive portal]

Any future proof team.

[analog coral]

Is ss harmo sig Alisa a big improvement to lumi

[mighty tusk]

[analog coral]

[shadow holly]

conversely, here we have the punishment of being sentenced to general chat

[woven haven]

Have sig = lumi dead alr

[analog coral]

Thx

[flint salmon]

if you can get bianca stigmata, I recommend Rosetta from the srank selector and next patch we get a free physical amp , letting you build the meta physical team easily.

[woven haven]

No need to bring lumi ever outside of babel

[analog coral]

Is my babel gonna be solo Alisa then

Future proof is a bit oof

[chilly totem]

How do you switch members again? I forgot

[analog coral]

Because in the future everyone begins getting cycled

[shadow holly]

you press on a member before launching into a stage

[mighty tusk]

then get anyone who has no direct replacement yet

[naive portal]

Wait instead of rerolling and choose Rosetta is there any unit that can go well with her and actually easy to obtain? Since bianca and Alisa are still pending.

[zenith thorn]

you should get rosetta regardless you get balter or not

[woven haven]

you can do alisa alpha rosetta
storm balter lumi for 2 phys slots
then if you have nier that’s your 3rd ig?

[quartz dove]

what if u dont have alisa sig

[analog coral]

I'm not bricc I skip nier

[woven haven]

then cope and seeeeeeethe

[zenith thorn]

rosetta solo till alisa

[mighty tusk]

lemme cook: rigor 4 leuwen 4 dv

[quartz dove]

[naive portal]

As I look on the in game guide it says lotus and eclipse idk.

[shadow holly]

[opaque ridge]

no alisa sig

[mighty tusk]

alisa 4 signa 2 cath

[zenith thorn]

hanying and storm

[mighty tusk]

[rose yew]

4 Patton 4 Cottie

[shadow holly]

just...ignore any in-game team or build recommendations for God's sake
they're nothing short of awful

[analog coral]

4 sig 4 dv time

[rose yew]

triple echo rot let's go

[naive portal]

Welp Rosetta solo it is then.

[quartz dove]

i heard u only need ss0 5* guess thats a lie now

[naive portal]

Time to start fresh.

[quartz dove]

[zenith thorn]

then grab all new S ranks
build temporary A rank team

[woven haven]

leeuwenhoek worst mem

its a 4pc for 20% def shred when that exists for 2pc in the form of catherine

[zenith thorn]

aether i thought you quit this discord already

[chilly totem]

Is this fine to fight this guy?

[woven haven]

I was intending to troll but then i saw misinfo so

[zenith thorn]

make sense

[woven haven]

[mighty tusk]

dont jinx it bru

[flint salmon]

Yeah just take your time and don't dodge blindly

[zenith thorn]

yeah
just follow rexlent boss guide if you get skill issued

[mighty tusk]

how do we bribe aetherlao to stay

[zenith thorn]

we can't

[naive portal]

Wait wdym Alisa is free.

[flint salmon]

You can farm her for free

[opaque ridge]

shes free?

[mighty tusk]

free in dorm comissions like kaleido

[zenith thorn]

dorm commission shop

[opaque ridge]

so shes not free

[naive portal]

Ah ok.

[flint salmon]

In dorm like ayla

[flint salmon]

[shadow holly]

Altera

[analog coral]

Alisa is free

[mighty tusk]

Altera on a misinfo spree

[analog coral]

Free 2 sacc

[opaque ridge]

well free is like a selector

[naive portal]

That's like a month to earn idk.

[woven haven]

alisa is farmable

[mighty tusk]

maybe I should say a misinfo

[zenith thorn]

i mean
if you don't have 10k stacked up that's just a skill issue

[woven haven]

that’s the mechanically accurate term

[zenith thorn]

yeah but we are pgr players
we don't know englisu

[woven haven]

always save 10k for next S rank is my policy back in CN server

[flint salmon]

Who cares about semantics

[woven haven]

and we didn’t have foresight

[woven haven]

the person holding a knife to your throat will

[naive portal]

Don't you need 50 shards?

[shadow holly]

well there's enough time to get enough dorm commission currency before her release to get her instantly

[naive portal]

2k times 50.

[zenith thorn]

i have like
30k stacked up

[flint salmon]

I would want him to cut it

[woven haven]

[opaque ridge]

30k?!

[flint salmon]

Yeah

[shadow holly]

I have 500k

[opaque ridge]

u wont make it for alisa

[woven haven]

oh right its 100k mbad but that’s still easy

[naive portal]

Touch grass.

[woven haven]

i had 1.5 mil once

[zenith thorn]

oh right 100k
then i have 300k

[mighty tusk]

It's not that hard though

[analog coral]

It's easy

[zenith thorn]

it's just 1 tap

[ripe heath]

it is around 6k to 8k metal doritos per day with commissions

[shadow holly]

fym it's just like, 2.5 months?

[mighty tusk]

150k because I still buy hypertune + weap blueprint coatings

[analog coral]

It's like the least touch grass thing you can call someone out for

[zenith thorn]

:lmaocry:

[opaque ridge]

i'd rather touch grass

[naive portal]

Welp alr imma actually play now.

[shadow holly]

[zenith thorn]

there's ppc and wz malder

yet you chose doritos

[shadow holly]

Doritos peak PGR gameplay

tap stuff in dorm

[opaque ridge]

i dont even touch wz/ppc till sunday

too busy farming echoes

[flint salmon]

what's the average bc income for a patch?

[shadow holly]

smh need PPC rework so that can do PPC all in one day

[zenith thorn]

one tap lao i kneel
o7

[zenith thorn]

8k ish

[shadow holly]

a rank patches are like 8-9k
S rank patches are on average 10k or more

at this point

[flint salmon]

it went up wow, that's good

[zenith thorn]

check #1220163911723253760 for bc sheet

[shadow holly]

like
every single S rank patch since stigmata has been 10k+ consistently

[opaque ridge]

bc income

[flint salmon]

time to plan some brick way to use that bc.

[chilly totem]

I've beat this guy. Thank you people for the help

[flint salmon]

My ass really quit at the worst time.

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

[woven haven]

Time for ion wz to mess everyone up frfr

[raw swift]

Nice one

Guys, I'm curious. What's the max achievable battle power?

[zenith thorn]

8115 ish

remember that bp is an utterly useless matrix to know a character strength

[digital moat]

But big numba

[zenith thorn]

just sleep for 1 year for uncle,qu,luna

bigger number

[digital moat]

[mighty tusk]

nah, no more glblul by then

[raw swift]

I know I know, I was just curious

[zenith thorn]

speaking of which
i managed to troll a noobie that pgr is gonna eos on dec
showing him an entirely useless chart

[mighty tusk]

where?

[zenith thorn]

got so heated
i got called out lmaocry

the hell

[raw swift]

What does eos mean?

[nova forum]

Is there gonna be anymore instance where kuro gonna gift 2.5k basic ticket?

[mighty tusk]

end of service

[raw swift]

Oh

[zenith thorn]

private discord server

yk aera,daiba and edx?

[mighty tusk]

atleast you did not carry gh name

[zenith thorn]

they are there

[mighty tusk]

looks like top guild? or player names

I know/heard daiba washi?

[zenith thorn]

nah casul players mostly

[normal sierra]

basic? you mean the blue tickets? not sure about that, but we get 2.5k yellow ones on anniv patch
at least so far that was the case