📨・meta-help

[ripe stag]

Still not enough

Having more Cogs is more important than having more characters

[deft apex]

real

if you don't have 1b cogs you're playing wrong

[rose yew]

imagine if the same censor is here
can't refer people to ( ˶ '▾' ˶ ) anymore, only bilibili

[deft apex]

yea( ˶ '▾' ˶ )

[gentle quail]

Hi - is there any video showcasing lightning wz rotating with SS cw, arclight, SS feral? Having hard time finding one that swaps (the only one I found was cw solo)

[opaque ridge]

arclight

[gentle quail]

new player pls understand

[grand jay]

A little lame Wanshi's boss is Fire weakness

Emperor is already old news lol

[deft apex]

how come suterol is fire weak and not ice weak

kinda funny given when he was released yea

[sweet bridge]

how can i get a different type of background? cuz i see people having other types of backgrounds

[grand jay]

Did you log in during anniversary patches?

If so go to the extra menu (the bottom right circle) and you should be able to find the lobby menu

There's some that are paywalled though

[cerulean grotto]

You can also get background from 17.5k bc skin gacha too

[grand jay]

Or at least 1 in glb

[cerulean grotto]

[deft apex]

log in during nier patch

[grand jay]

Speaking of can't wait to bin that Lamia lobby

It's so boring in comparison to Alpha's

[deft apex]

what's alpha bg?

[mighty tusk]

it's kinda funny that we get the lobbies at an accelerated rate than cn does

[grand jay]

It's in the Lucia trailer

[cerulean grotto]

1st anni lobby still the best anni lobby in my opinion

[grand jay]

Yeah

Actually no 2nd anni is

[cerulean grotto]

3rd anni is just summer bait

[grand jay]

I like the Kowloong background but the castle is way cooler

[deft apex]

the church looking one?

[cerulean grotto]

Nab 2nd anni is mid

[cerulean grotto]

Kowloong courtyard

[mighty tusk]

I prefer the 2nd anniv lobby

[deft apex]

is it yellow?

[grand jay]

[cerulean grotto]

Yea

[sweet bridge]

oh yeah

[deft apex]

the nier one then

[sweet bridge]

i dont log in

[cerulean grotto]

Idk, kowloong courtyard feels the best

[mighty tusk]

if you're an on and off player, you prob wont be able to get the anniv lobbies

[grand jay]

Guess you're gonna have to wait until Qu's patch for a free lobby

[sweet bridge]

yeah

[cerulean grotto]

Church is just bright af bs

[grand jay]

You need to log in for 3 days iirc

[sweet bridge]

btw, ty for the info

[cerulean grotto]

[mighty tusk]

atleast it's a moodsetter

[cerulean grotto]

Idk how you guys see it as such
But I'll be honest, low bloom church got that dusk vibes which I absolutely love

[jaunty beacon]

i'm still mad they put the jp song in lobby rather than the cn ones

[grand jay]

Alpha lobby animation though

I hate Kuro for not releasing gacha skins day of

[cerulean grotto]

Haven't seen it yet

[grand jay]

Why does it have to be a week after

[cerulean grotto]

But I'm quitting meta for that skin anyways

So it doesn't really matter

[grand jay]

It's not even out lmao

[cerulean grotto]

[cerulean grotto]

Yeah, doesn't matter

[grand jay]

I'm just realising she's getting a lobby anim lmao

[digital moat]

But we dont?

[cerulean grotto]

I got that bc saved up

[grand jay]

I've got RC lol

[digital moat]

Cn gets them on anni

We get them on anni

[grand jay]

But most of that is going to Lucia unfort

[cerulean grotto]

[grand jay]

Maybe I get another 648 RC

That way I can cover for the spending event

[cerulean grotto]

Pwowqlao got it messed up

[cerulean grotto]

Can't relate with whels

[grand jay]

I have the Luminance pfp

I'm no longer relatable

[cerulean grotto]

Too deep into the hole

[grand jay]

Can't believe there's like 2 things I care about next patch and neither are Lucia

[cerulean grotto]

[grand jay]

It's the Alpha skin and style mode for me

I literally care for nothing else

[raw swift]

chat, where do I go from here?

[grand jay]

Just do Eden fallen

Chapter is long though

[cerulean grotto]

Do the exploration mode

[raw swift]

what about explore mode?

[cerulean grotto]

You get more bc in exploration mode

[grand jay]

He's lying

You do NOT want to do explore mode

[cerulean grotto]

[raw swift]

should I do that later?

[cerulean grotto]

Nah just do it

We only had exploration mode in the beginning anyways

If you like reading, its more comprehensive

And has a bit of side stories and some extras

[digital moat]

Imagine accelerated anniversaries

[raw swift]

it's not about liking reading, because games like these force me to read whether I want to or not

[cerulean grotto]

You can always skip

[raw swift]

did you ever skip class in school?

[cerulean grotto]

Don't give the excuse of being forced to read in pgr

Either you read out of your own will or you skip

There's no middle path

[digital moat]

Or write summaries

[cerulean grotto]

Imagine being "forced to read" when you literally have a skip button

[raw swift]

but cool story, bro, why would I skip?

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/no21-21-pgr-chaos-unsnarled-gif-10759477207559316596

[cerulean grotto]

You were the one who told you were forced to read, not me

I like the story, I never skip

[raw swift]

[cerulean grotto]

Flex your 100% in exploration mode before doubting me

[raw swift]

this is funny, because in THAT one you legit can only partialy skip it or cannot skip it at all

[quasi vale]

I'm always reluctant to start reading a new chapter, but most of the times I'm invested very quickly and the situation turns around, I'm annoyed by the battles because I want to read how it goes on

[carmine reef]

i hate the battles in story mode now because they're too fast so it just breaks the flow

[digital moat]

Battle stages breaking immersion is something weirdly happens to me as well

[carmine reef]

the battles felt more immersive early on when i didn't kill them in 1 hit

[raw swift]

I still remember getting folded as Alpha against Rosetta gone berserk

[digital moat]

I liked battles in the no21 chapter more though

It leaned more to exploration

[woven sable]

I hate exploration nodes

[digital moat]

I was like checking every corner for secret stuff

[woven sable]

Theres no secrets in pgr stuff tho

[olive fossil]

hi dad

[sand laurel]

[digital moat]

You never know

[digital moat]

Wassap

[olive fossil]

nothing much wbu dad?

[digital moat]

Same here

[olive fossil]

like father like son

[glass bay]

what is liv gonna do

[visual topaz]

Marry me

[glass bay]

Keep dreaming

[shadow holly]

my fingers are not feeling very good

[deft apex]

why

hardcore malding i suppose

[digital moat]

That was amazing

[glass bay]

too much echo picking

[shadow holly]

I spent
like 4 hours
on hell Lamia
and I still don't know why I'm lacking damage compared to Windbell ref with lux while using feral
like yeah sure I don't have lantern
but amp class should compensate more than enough
I've tried all kinds of QTE timings
and different setups
and yet damage is still very inconsistent
and doesn't help that Lamia can't fcking stay in the Garnet flag for proper tank class application

I took
18
with feral
when ref with lux
is 17
I'm feeling like ass

[digital moat]

Fred cw?

[shadow holly]

yes

[digital moat]

Weirdge

When does windbell use qtes

[shadow holly]

he uses
1 lux QTE during ult1
then double qte late before slam so that lux field doesn't run out too early

I tried that and it seems to kinda work with feral too but
sometimes Lamia has like 15 bars left after first slam
but a couple of times 13

with the same timings

[shrewd vale]

It's the crits /s

[shadow holly]

but I punished myself with crit mald later

I did 8/10/14 redliv
although it's not nearly as hard as it would have been before super ht

[shrewd vale]

Full ht too good

[ashen edge]

[shadow holly]

[raw swift]

so... can one clear ch. 13 in 2 weeks if hard focusing exploration mode?

[digital moat]

Whel

Whats your physical invest

[shadow holly]

222 015

[spiral merlin]

Dmg hack

[digital moat]

I defo have a crit issue

[shadow holly]

[digital moat]

I have 231 015 and suffer on knight and onwards

Hell cope

[shadow holly]

elite and knight is mad finger workout with needing super fast fd + insta QTE on knight

[digital moat]

I dont fd

And still manage to do it in time

[shadow holly]

[digital moat]

But tapping those qtes fast enough for 14 knight is quite

[shadow holly]

3s rose privileges

[digital moat]

Wut

I dont do less stuff

The thing is

[carmine reef]

You can clear it in a day

[digital moat]

While the screen is black on redliv intro animation

[carmine reef]

[digital moat]

You can actually swap

[shadow holly]

ik

[digital moat]

[shadow holly]

but like
for 14s knight how many stacks u get

[digital moat]

Iont remember letme retry

[shadow holly]

[shadow holly]

exploration mode?
it's gated with the stamina system no way u clear it ina day

[carmine reef]

check the message after

[shadow holly]

trolling in my gh chat unacceptable

[carmine reef]

I would never

[glass bay]

Gph is pgr general 2

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

tifa > lamia > redliv is the order I go this round

[pulsar pasture]

quick question, for the upcoming collab, are we able to exchange Trade Vouchers for BRS shard? Im stocking piling them up atm.

[shadow holly]

no

only black cards

or event tickets I suppose

I'm not even sure about the latter

[spiral merlin]

You’d use vouchers on an a rank?

[pulsar pasture]

for kuro, ye 🥰

[shadow holly]

but anyway yeah you cant
it's a collab unit
you can only get extra copies by pulling them on the banner

[jaunty beacon]

collab have their own tickets

[pulsar pasture]

ah. thx. thought i read somewhere someone did for the nier collab. wrong info reeee

[jaunty beacon]

for both char and weapons

[shadow holly]

ah alright yeah then BC only

[jaunty beacon]

trade voucher didn't even exist during nier

[pulsar pasture]

thx for the quick answer. much appreciated

[glass bay]

[ripe stag]

Keep vouchers for free S rank characters and some of the leaped characters who work best or have better usage at high rank

For example

The next patch we get Alisa Echo

She's Free

Do not use your Ppc skulls on her to get her SS

Use vouchers

Same with Wanshi

Bianca Stigmata got leap apparently
And SSS Balter is broken

[cerulean grotto]

Bro forgot about daren

[pulsar pasture]

uh, a dumb question, but wdym by free? or like, how do we get alisa or noctis for free?

[deft apex]

free stigmata copy too

[cerulean grotto]

Also, f2p can't really collect that many vouchers

[spiral merlin]

‘Free’ s rank more like sig + cub tax

[ripe stag]

Who is that

[ripe stag]

We keep vouchers for Free S ranks

[cerulean grotto]

[ripe stag]

I ain't spending skulls on a S rank who's inbetween 2 paid S ranks

[cerulean grotto]

You sure you're in the correct channel to troll as a mod?

[ripe stag]

I have a reason to say that

[ripe stag]

Can you even afford 1k skulls that easily ? No

[cerulean grotto]

Don't tell me you don't know who Daren is

[ripe stag]

And we f2p cannot even pull for those free ones

[jaunty beacon]

skull are more affordable than voucher tho

[cerulean grotto]

Also I was talking about sss balter

[cerulean grotto]

Also true

[ripe stag]

SSS Balter is broken
But I didn't see GET HER SSS

Even I'm not gonna get her SSS

I'll SS3 with the free Balter

Faster rot time

[cerulean grotto]

Way to twist the words

It pretty much seemed like you implied sss

[ripe stag]

Yes but it's not possible to get 1k skulls inbetween 2 paid S rank patches when every S rank needs SS

[jaunty beacon]

also, it's quite irrelevant to take into consideration content that happen in 2y

[ripe stag]

Idk about anything if they upgraded ppc rewards or not

[jaunty beacon]

they do next patch

• outlier exist

[ripe stag]

That isn't big of an upgrade

[cerulean grotto]

It is tho

[jaunty beacon]

still wayyyy better than your voucher

[cerulean grotto]

Bro you sure you're keeping up with the updates?

[spiral merlin]

Don’t we get like 3 new bosses in lamia patch that’s a clean 225 skulls

[cerulean grotto]

20% rewards buff isn't huge?

[ripe stag]

Outliners normally contain bosses we have either squeezed out the worth or don't have the last achievement.....well that's for vets not newbies

[ripe stag]

If it isn't 100%
It's not huge

20% is good

[cerulean grotto]

Entitled people

[ripe stag]

I want a 100% off Offer on a new phone

[cerulean grotto]

Newbies don't even have the need to ss older characters, kinda crazy you're telling they'll always be behind skulls

With outlier, there's a pretty big safe line

[normal sierra]

not like newbies are swimming in vouchers either

[jaunty beacon]

most people asking here haven't even touch it, and except if you have all units, some bosses can't be 580k if you're lacking something

voucher is mostly a spender thing

[ripe stag]

I haven't 580k 2 bosses yet

Not cuz I'm lacking good units

[spiral merlin]

[ripe stag]

I'm God of Skill Issue you see

[jaunty beacon]

idc

[ripe stag]

The Skill Issue Archon

[gentle quail]

is outlier about 800 skulls right now?

[ripe stag]

[gentle quail]

haven't done it yet

[ripe stag]

I guess around 700 ?

[gentle quail]

I see - and each non outlier boss 580k achievement is 75 skulls too?

[jaunty beacon]

it's the same yes

[gentle quail]

gotcha

how many bosses are in rotation rn. Curious because budgeting skulls

[jaunty beacon]

7 bosses in outlier

[gentle quail]

Thanks - ah I found it: https://grayravens.com/wiki/Phantom_Pain_Cage/Ultimate_Zone

so outlier = 7 * 75
current rotations = 11 * 75

18 * 75 = 1350 skulls to grab for 580K achievement for all current and outlier bosses?

[deft apex]

15 bosses total

not 18

[deft apex]

wait nvm

[glass bay]

How fast can we clear limit break

[deft apex]

it's 21 in total

[cerulean grotto]

Ezra is a troll

Best to ignore him

He doesn't really know much about meta

[gentle quail]

👍

[dusk musk]

is there a release date for Black Rock Shooter?

[cerulean grotto]

Brs patch

[raw swift]

ignoring your troubles will not make them go away

[deft apex]

september

[cerulean grotto]

[dusk musk]

ty 🙂

[ripe stag]

I dont even have Daren
(I have her sig I'm coping so hard)

[cerulean grotto]

Go fight him ig

[jaunty beacon]

well, it's not easy to 580k bosses in ultimate. So it's more of a mid-long term income if you're new

[jaunty beacon]

the date is estimate around september/october

[raw swift]

you want me to throw down with random people on the internet?

[vague nebula]

will cerberus event story be added in codex?

[cerulean grotto]

True but at least 1k skulls is game on top of them actually giving out free 1350 skulls, which is more than enough for newbies to cover for back 2 back s ranks even if they start now

[cerulean grotto]

You were the one who typed this

Help me solve my trouble then

Or rather just go and dive into the lore

[raw swift]

I was trying to give good advice from my own experience, since you lot are a nice bunch and always giving me useful PGR tips
"give and take" you see 😄

[deft apex]

you take info and give misinfo, i see

[raw swift]

it's probably viceversa, but let's not talk about that

[glass bay]

We give good advice?

[raw swift]

who shud pick?

[cerulean grotto]

Whoever is needed

Depends on teams built

[raw swift]

does rozen go well with noctis?

[cerulean grotto]

Also you can farm any of the a ranks for free

[raw swift]

ok

[cerulean grotto]

Lux

[raw swift]

okay ty

[normal sierra]

they are one-tap stages, all enemies melt down very fast
can clear all of it in a few minutes

[glass bay]

I see

Might do a bit later

[cerulean grotto]

Just solo cw

[glass bay]

Imagine if they made a new mode

Only a ranks

Gph dead

[shut shard]

Anyone other than sofia-

[raw swift]

is she really bad?

[cerulean grotto]

Oh she's trash

[raw swift]

damn i see

[shut shard]

If you dont have feral you use Liv lux
No sss capriccio SSS rozen
Even wanshi has use

[cerulean grotto]

But she got that special shred at sss+

Iykyk

[glass bay]

patch dead again..

[zenith thorn]

sophia is so sh*t it's better to use lux than her

[feral pollen]

lmao

[river nymph]

[stiff elm]

you will have two chances in the future

lamia patch and oblivion

[ripe stag]

I'm getting daren from lamia patch

I know

SS3 from Oblivion patch

[stiff elm]

y'know

[zenith thorn]

are we on 4th week of noc wtf

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

i have been slacking

[ripe stag]

13 days till Alisa

[zenith thorn]

LET'S GOO

[stiff elm]

is oblivion really the only character that can go against void element

[zenith thorn]

i will insured that sig

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

The only Void DPS

[stiff elm]

to shred the void shield yeah yeah

[zenith thorn]

count how many void

chars you can and compared

[stiff elm]

but is it tied to luna oblivion or is it tied to being an annihilator?

[ripe stag]

Teddy can only break void shield with QTE no ?

[zenith thorn]

element

[ripe stag]

No
It's her affix

[zenith thorn]

or affix

[stiff elm]

like the thing is

[zenith thorn]

right it's affix, havoc

[stiff elm]

they drop luna and give her a whole new class and go "no more"

[ripe stag]

Disorder Affix - More damage to void shield

[stiff elm]

void shield is a shield right? like blocks damage?

[ripe stag]

Yea Luna lorewise attained basically pseudo "godhood" like state

[stiff elm]

doesn't regenerate, right? its not gonna be hella annoying?

[ripe stag]

Yep

[ripe stag]

No it doesn't
Unless it does

[stiff elm]

if it does im quitting... if i miss luna sig

[ripe stag]

Ever played HI3 ?

[stiff elm]

no

why would I play such a trash game

[ripe stag]

There's a similar mechanic in HI3

The shield doesn't Regen

It's the exact same in PGR

[stiff elm]

but you need a specific character that does it better

and this specific character is the only thing keeping you from the higher leagues or something?

[ripe stag]

Void shield is the exact same gimmick as one of the gimmicks in HI3

[stiff elm]

you keep saying hi3 but I just said i never played

[feral pollen]

kuro devs not copying hi3 mechs under a different name challenge impossible

[ripe stag]

Yea I'm just saying it's the exact same

You need specific element/affix character to break the void shield

[stiff elm]

I feel like it would make sense if oblivion was a uniframe

like instead, give a new class to uniframes, dang, vanguard vanguard vanguard why always vanguard

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

unicarps ded, we don't need more ded units

[river nymph]

hi3 mentioned

[ripe stag]

HI3 has a mechanic called "SD shield" which can only be broken (faster) by Characters who are from the "SD-Type" element

It's the same in PGR

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-dancing-cat-chinese-dancing-cat-funny-cat-meme-cat-gif-18059553370350307210

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

Void shield can be broken fast af with characters who have "Disorder" affix

Disorder Affix comes with Void element

[river nymph]

[stiff elm]

when are affix released?

I thought it was past oblivion patch

[ripe stag]

Luna Oblivion

[normal sierra]

it's teddy patch

not luna

[ripe stag]

She's the first along with Teddy to have an affix

[stiff elm]

mmm ok so for the ionization team, do they even get an attacker

[ripe stag]

We didn't see Disorder affix on teddy during her patch bruhb

[normal sierra]

affix != void bruh

[river nymph]

bro are you serious?

[stiff elm]

pre hyperdawn*

[ripe stag]

the affix got added to Teddy + Teddy's "???" Element got renamed to "Void" during Luna Oblivion patch

[river nymph]

there is no ion team pre dawn

[ripe stag]

No

[stiff elm]

ohhh so some affixes are unreleased?

[vestal nymph]

So when will the disorder affix really happen?

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

?

Man
Disorder affix has no use apart from some cliche fights and gamemodes

[stiff elm]

im lost, I never got when affixes were released, I only know how they work

[ripe stag]

• Void PPC and WZ
• If a boss has Void shield which is rare af

[vestal nymph]

Then why do people ask that

[digital moat]

Teddy 90% dark 10% meme

[ripe stag]

Affix came out with Luna

[vestal nymph]

What's important on affix?

[digital moat]

They are new mechanics

[ripe stag]

Affix is just damage increase and/or gimmick

It's worthless unlike timestop tbf

[vestal nymph]

Timestop is op

[digital moat]

They are like new set of elements

[vestal nymph]

Making the warzone longer

[ripe stag]

Timestop is a good addition

But affix is just
Weird

[vestal nymph]

I see just a buff

[stiff elm]

I just understand affix as sub elements

[normal sierra]

timestop was never a good addition

[ripe stag]

Sometimes that buff is too big

[vestal nymph]

I wonder what kind of gimmick you are referring to

[ripe stag]

Hanying's true slash

[stiff elm]

I like how the physical team stays the same after affix

[remote pier]

physical is always just physical

[ripe stag]

Yep
Even Balter who turned into subdps got her place back as main-dps

[stiff elm]

you sure? hanying got trueslash too though

[ripe stag]

Thank god they don't have weird affix to change element

[digital moat]

Kuro was trying to cook and they accidentally added salt instead of sugar to the dessert while making ionization

[vestal nymph]

Who was the originally main dps?

[ripe stag]

Yea but overall Balter got a big damage increase

[remote pier]

slash is already weird. Why have it in the first place?

[stiff elm]

I mean the diverse team seems nice imo but the mald is real.

[digital moat]

And lucia daren no21 happened

[ripe stag]

Balter before Hanying dropped
Tank turned into main DPS

[vestal nymph]

I see

[digital moat]

It could be a fun way to change things up yea

[vestal nymph]

Did balter get a leap in cn?

[digital moat]

Instead of doing the same thing for both element and the affix

[ripe stag]

Yes

[stiff elm]

hold on my question is if affix take bonuses from the original element, then will the og element have better buffs or the affix buff

[digital moat]

Affixes can benefit from buffs characters

[remote pier]

Kuro becoming Apple

[digital moat]

Meanwhile environmental buffs dont affect affixes unless otherwise is stated

[ripe stag]

Affix is weird as i said

Like Daren, who's 100% dark has Ionization affix which is lightning affix

[digital moat]

Like no21 being able buff ionization damage

[ripe stag]

This allowed Daren to actually shred lightning

[stiff elm]

no like this,
we know ionization benefits from lightning buffs so ionization + FS works

but if lets say capriccio was given ionization, would her buff be better than FS?

[ripe stag]

WAIT AFFIX CAN BE BUFFED ?

[digital moat]

no

[stiff elm]

or does ionization only benefit damage and not buffs

[ripe stag]

I thought affix cannot be buffed cuz they don't work like elements ?

[remote pier]

oh hail no, they better not bring back crapi

[stiff elm]

they are buffed by their original counterpart p sure

[deft apex]

lightning buffs affect ion affix dmg

[digital moat]

Capri dark buff doesnt benefit ionization afaik

[shadow holly]

they do benefut from corresponding element shred and buffs

[digital moat]

^

[stiff elm]

but if capri was given ionization then.?

[digital moat]

Thats currently what we know

[river nymph]

yeah cuz ion is light affix

[stiff elm]

lets say if, ionization vs lightning amp

[digital moat]

A dark buff is still a dark buff

[shadow holly]

I mean her kit still buffs dark

[stiff elm]

ok that makes sense, wait does that means amplifiers never getting affix?

[ripe stag]

So it can be buffed by character buff

[digital moat]

Kuro would have to redo a ton of stuff if they do that

Like its already weirdly complicated due to wording

[ripe stag]

Why not

[shut shard]

So it kills old chars directly?

Since they dont have the mechanic?

[river nymph]

yes

[deft apex]

why would they make an ion specific amp, make a light amp and give them ion affix

[ripe stag]

Yep

Gen 1 is dead af

[river nymph]

no

[stiff elm]

meh makes sense, since you cant just slap like combustion on FS and expect it to work

[normal sierra]

kuro dev1: hey, I'm too tired to think of a dark affix, what do we do now?
kuro dev2: ehh? who cares, just slap the lightning one to dark, it will work
kuro dev1: wow, you are genius!

[shut shard]

As I understand you cant break those shields if you don't have the mechanic

[digital moat]

A leap can grant access to affixes for old chars

[river nymph]

think of ion as an additional team as opposed to replacing the current light team

[vestal nymph]

Do y'all think we need more free s rank characters for free2play players?

[stiff elm]

they're all free just play like 3 times a week

[digital moat]

We have wanshi kaleido crapi alisa free on cn server

[ripe stag]

They should make dark affix stack-up dark damage and release on Max stack automatically which can be buffed by shred and amp

[digital moat]

And 2 ass selectors

[stiff elm]

lamia patch literally makes any S rank one time free and another selector on effing oblivion

anyways ig capri aint coming back?

since best she can get is uh...

wait dark doesn't have an affix yet nvm

is there enough characters for a glaciation/combustion team yet?

[digital moat]

@shadow holly i think i do around a 80 stack ult in knight redliv

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

man
I ult with 98

[digital moat]

[shadow holly]

[digital moat]

3s rose privilage

• with cottie

[shadow holly]

what I'm saying

holy with Cottie too

[normal sierra]

I ult with 76, 12s kill

[digital moat]

Wtf whel

Ill nuke redlivs ass with alisa tho

[digital moat]

I think i did it wirh leeu once

[shadow holly]

Wanshi is the only one with glaciation and Bridget is the only one with burn so far

[digital moat]

Just didnt bother to do it again

[stiff elm]

hmmm so its literally wanshi solo with kaleido and bridget and empy

[digital moat]

Alisa means i can 1 rot chaos redliv too

[normal sierra]

but we one rot chaos already

[river nymph]

[digital moat]

Hopefully

[digital moat]

Not we its you whel

[shadow holly]

don't think weathers for ice and fire buff glaciation/burn yet so u just use proper teams lol

[river nymph]

i have never been more hyped for a patch than this next one

[digital moat]

Removal of crit mald

[river nymph]

harmo

[digital moat]

Every pgr malder's wet dream

[shadow holly]

@stiff elm

[digital moat]

Just seeing all yellow

[digital moat]

Alisa harmo and bye

[stiff elm]

huh

[digital moat]

Well id harmo 21 too if i can

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

cant wait to use 4 cottie on balt and cw

[normal sierra]

my hell tifa runs ruined so many times this time cuz staggered on my 2nd rot

4 cottie fixes that, right? right? o.o

[river nymph]

guys i have a question

[shadow holly]

btw u dont have amp resos on ur feral Guin set right

[deft apex]

that's removal of phys float

[river nymph]

does balter ult 1 count as a signature for cottie 4pc?

mem cottie

[velvet hedge]

Cottie ★★★★★★

2 Piece Set

Gains 20% more Energy when pinging an orb. Signature Move requires 20% less Energy.

4 Piece Set

Extra DMG increases by 15% for 10s when performing a Signature Move. Gains Super Armor that increases Extra DMG Reduction by 20% for 5s after the Signature Move. Both duration will reset every time it is triggered.

HP

1453

CRIT

66

ATK

135

DEF

223

[shadow holly]

yea it's still ult

[normal sierra]

I do, 4 class reso

[river nymph]

lit

[shadow holly]

surely I would still be able to os hell Lamia once r2 feral? with 0 class resos

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

idc how tight it is as long as it's possible
still much better than the cancer double slam

[normal sierra]

doubt
dmg is tight, need deer edb too, and even then, barely kills

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

my tifa hell strat been failing me this week

i need to lock in

[shadow holly]

r2 CW

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUQq-tHV0ao
this was on spot dmg, just killed
without class reso on 21, prolly wouldn't kill

[shadow holly]

I swear I get more dmg with earlier dv

[river nymph]

henry joe strikes again

[shadow holly]

feral disappears way after the slam ends so idk how much dmg ur wasting on the jump

I think it might be not as tight as u say

[normal sierra]

but does 4pc guine effect stays long enough if you use dv sooner?

[jaunty beacon]

it'll disappear mid ult

[normal sierra]

tried many different qte timings, this is the one that killed
if I use dv sooner, I end up with ~1.5 bars HP left

[jaunty beacon]

dv at the highest of her leap feels better on slam's damage

[shadow holly]

doesn't ult snapshot Guin drone buff anyway
at least that's what I've always heard

[normal sierra]

will record my run with sooner dv timing this time and check the difference

[jaunty beacon]

nah the drone isn't timestop

[normal sierra]

although my brain is already hard-wired with this timing

[shadow holly]

I know the drone itself can't be timestopped but I remember hearing the buff snapshots with timestop ults
I've been misinfod my whole life

[normal sierra]

I remember Doomy saying something about this, but forgot the details

like, if there is a physical entity needed for a buff (like 4pc dv and guine effect), it works differently somehow

[woven sable]

Timestop stops buffs ticking down

[raw swift]

Guys what's perfect memo for alisa

[zenith thorn]

4dv 2phillip and/or 4signa 2phillip if 5* or no harmo

if with harmo
4signa 4dv

[cerulean grotto]

Don't believe doomy

He's stopped meta building after feral patch

I doubt he knows about meta cuz there's no more bot updates

[zenith thorn]

doomy escaped the matrix

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-has-attacked-me-gif-27332404

[woven haven]

doomy says 4pc guin works like this
entity doesn't get timestopped and despawns
but the buff supposedly lasts until the timestop ends even if drone drops mid anim

[shadow holly]

yea that's it

[hardy mantle]

Hello! I had a question, is it a good time to enter the game?

[shadow holly]

as good as always
in a couple of weeks there is anniversary banner which allows you to select who you want at 100% rateup (meaning no offrates)
although there are also other things you want to save pulling currency for, but as a newbie should have enough to pull Anni and have enough for other stuff
although I guess you don't have to follow pulling advice rigidly if you're very casual, but it's still advised to do so to ensure a proper roster

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

[deft apex]

too many words, skipped

[glass bay]

I will give u advice that gph wont

[cerulean grotto]

Just give everyone the casual advice so we can get easy inflated brackets

[glass bay]

U shouldn't try to chase meta if u start now

[cerulean grotto]

Why you creating competition

[glass bay]

U will suffer

[shadow holly]

it's really the case when starting at any time tbh
at any given point in time if you start, you'd be missing everyone and relying on selectors n stuff to backpull

[cerulean grotto]

Join NA server and try to join exppc asap

It helps a lot

[shadow holly]

[cerulean grotto]

[glass bay]

They more bricked now than say

Pre gen 2 releases tho

I was kinda lucky I started just before the gen 2 attackers started being released tbh

[shadow holly]

the only real bricked thing is wz

otherwise idk

[deft apex]

start playing before gen 3

[glass bay]

True

[woven haven]

Affix dmg is buffed by existing character element buffs/debuffs but not by ENVRIONMENTAL modifiers like weather or boss weaknesses

[cerulean grotto]

Leader retain good enuf

[shadow holly]

I mean yeah leader is more than enough for a newbie

[glass bay]

More fun for them

[shadow holly]

have you seen how many people in vanguard and elite

[glass bay]

In srsness

[stiff elm]

do discord tags still work?

[cerulean grotto]

I know a few brs copers coping off element vanguard

[shadow holly]

brs copers

[gentle quail]

which units want specific mem resos on dv?

[stiff elm]

aren't specific memory resos usually in 4's? I dont ever think you would use 2

oh wait I can think of one.

[gentle quail]

is it just tanks like garnet, daren, glory

or does getting class passive reso on amps work if you mainly play solo (I assume not)

[stiff elm]

im pretty sure if you're running dv, its always guin or eins

[shadow holly]

yeah class resos on tanks are good
class resos on SSS amps are good
on sub SSS amps not so much but still a boost, can do those if you have all your DPS units perfect resos and 6class on tanks

[stiff elm]

oh wait im thinking of something else

perfect reso is like a minmax thing, no?

[gentle quail]

I see and thanks. which tanks run dv? I thought you typically just use their signature sets.

[winter scarab]

Does lamia require sig?

[feral pollen]

no

[winter scarab]

And luna oblivion?

[feral pollen]

noone requires sig

[gentle quail]

or is this mainly a ppc thing to minmax?

[winter scarab]

Good is there any cubs should i get for any upcoming s ranks?

[stiff elm]

in global?

[shadow holly]

as main set, Glory runs DV
PPC set for Garnet, Nanamech
Daren too after Lamia comes
rosetta DV is only high rank stuff + with harmonization post Alisa so don't worry about that

[stiff elm]

I thought capri would be a dv holder

[hardy mantle]

I understand, thank you very much for the advice! Yes, I consider myself a meta player but above all I am very visual, I was interested in the game because a few days ago I saw a gameplay of a character called Lucia and I really loved it. Does that mean I'll be able to select it on the anniversary?

[shadow holly]

no cubs before sigs
while one can say no one requires sig
everyone's sig is still incredibly strong and important
it's not like they're unplayable without sig
but most (if not everyone) are not comfortable to say without sig and cannot perform at a competitive level

[stiff elm]

also isn't alisa the DV holder after harmo

[glass bay]

Which lucia

[hardy mantle]

It's okay, I'm a masochist HAHAHA

[glass bay]

Are u F2p?

[shadow holly]

Capri can't hold DV because she needs sera to buff
post harmo she goes 4sera 2cot 2eins
or Guin instead of cot if SSS+ (or in PPC support set)

[winter scarab]

I see I'm planning to get sig for every attackeri get

[hardy mantle]

Thanks for the advice!

[shadow holly]

that was a joke
don't take it too seriously

[stiff elm]

what a high maintenance maiden for an outdated unit

[shadow holly]

[hardy mantle]

Eh I don't know, can I send the TikTok? And yes im F2P :c

[stiff elm]

twintails or no?

lets play 21 questions lol

[shadow holly]

sans Lucia sans Lucia
Vergil daughter brainrot alert

[hardy mantle]

Oh okay

[stiff elm]

nah bro ima play 21 questions

[shadow holly]

[stiff elm]

did the lucia have twintails @hardy mantle

i guess im not getting my answer

I had a repertiore of questions to go through :<

[hardy mantle]

Yeah! It's like fire and the ability of its ultimate is like an eclipse

[stiff elm]

does she have white clothing?

[azure barn]

oh I think we know who it is now LMAO

There's only one Lucia with an eclipse for an Ult

[stiff elm]

shh let me narrow it down

[azure barn]

okok

[stiff elm]

its only been 2 questions and we're already there 😭

[shadow holly]

[azure barn]

Is bro Akinator or sum sht

[hardy mantle]

I just thought I can actually send a photo

[shadow holly]

mint turning into a djinn

[stiff elm]

no akinator is piece of sh*t

[shadow holly]

nah we already know who it is
it's a new Lucia frame it's only just coming out on CN
it's like a year til we have it on global

[stiff elm]

couldn't even guess highmore or fartooth

[feral pollen]

you git gud

[glass bay]

do u like her midriff or her buttcrack more

[shadow holly]

tiktok always leaving out critical information smh
ppl gon come here and ask about her not even knowing it's still a long ass time til she comes

[stiff elm]

face...?

[glass bay]

[stiff elm]

did you know on stigmata, her snow petals skin actually has a buttcrack

[hardy mantle]

NOOOOOOO :c

[stiff elm]

ok have fun looking for it

[glass bay]

i didnt know this

[feral pollen]

saw it on day 1

[stiff elm]

same, I turned her around so fast and turned her back around just to save my eyes.

[glass bay]

show me

[stiff elm]

let me launch

man I was just tryna enjoy reading orv

[azure barn]

demn

[shadow holly]

smh snow pooptals havers

[stiff elm]

stfu broke ahh

[azure barn]

Don't you mean Solitary Dream

[glass bay]

if i were whel i would buy too

[hardy mantle]

Her eyes

[stiff elm]

I skipped hyperlee for it

[glass bay]

dont bs me

[feral pollen]

time to prepare funds for idol karen so i can bonk with glamour

[glass bay]

bricked

[stiff elm]

ok look, respectfully.

watch them remove this like they did to like, scar's crotch zipper

@glass bay

[glass bay]

hell yea

[stiff elm]

man whats wrong with you

[glass bay]

many things

[azure barn]

it's actually real

[stiff elm]

I feel like you would say the same thing when you learn that alpha CA has a thong

[azure barn]

All I cared about was the effects from that coating

[stiff elm]

same, the extra service was so very welcome though

[azure barn]

And I think it's mid

[glass bay]

i know about this one#

[stiff elm]

thats where you're wrong, if you get a good angle during yellow orb you can see like 60% more.

[azure barn]

The effects are great but the 2nd Ult brings it down so much

[glass bay]

wtf

[azure barn]

2nd Ult looks like it's just falling instead of actually trying to kill you

[stiff elm]

mhm.

[azure barn]

diminishes its power by so much

[glass bay]

how do u even notice

[stiff elm]

I have really good eyes and I play on pretty high graphics

[glass bay]

[stiff elm]

censoring sword bar goes hard.

anyways yeah im done fueling your degeneracy

if you want the rest of the tidbits just get the skin yourself

[shadow holly]

[stiff elm]

you must look respectfully bonk

she looks pretty funny upside down though

[normal sierra]

that screenshot doesn't look like so high graphics

[stiff elm]

cause im zooming in more

[glass bay]

my god...

[stiff elm]

thou shalt not goon

[shadow holly]

this mf skin should've just been a summer skin I swear

[normal sierra]

use lossless zoom

[shadow holly]

it's a glorified swimsuit with some dangly things

[stiff elm]

damn, imagine this being the last thing you see

[tacit olive]

when will LUCIA OATHBLAZE releases?

[normal sierra]

would be sad to see the last dmg numbers so low indeed
and it's even crit

[stiff elm]

cut base form some slack

[normal sierra]

[deft apex]

In a year

[jaunty beacon]

In 2 years. You can return to sleep now

[tacit olive]

fr? i can finally get some sleep

[tacit olive]

i will indeed

yall are fr?

[shadow holly]

another one lmaoo just as I said

[normal sierra]

it's not even out on CN yet

[stiff elm]

is this darker or brighter than her og coating

[shadow holly]

yea well not 2 years it's prob like 1 but still pretty long time

[river nymph]

i locked in

[normal sierra]

that part might be darker for a few split-second, but you will get blinded after that anyway, so won't matter

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

will never get used to seeing that aspect ratio lul

[river nymph]

last week ever doing that cancer strat

[stiff elm]

hmmm can't tell

[river nymph]

harmo save me

[stiff elm]

I mean its not that bright.. wait whats that golden line

[river nymph]

they really ate with that skin

looks like some souls boss stuff

[stiff elm]

and then theres CW, they're still milking tf out of her, she even has another skin that looks garbage.

[normal sierra]

subjective
I saw a lot of peepz drooling over that skin too

[stiff elm]

only that chinese dress skin looked good tbh

[shadow holly]

finally someone who agrees that the announced cw skin looks ass

[river nymph]

i can appreciate all skins

looking forward to the skin shuffle feature

[stiff elm]

I have a stigma for the uneven pants

CW and her uneven pants have bothered me day 1 of looking at it, literally have her on her generic coating

[normal sierra]

symmetric things are overrated

[river nymph]

thats like alphas iconic style tho

[stiff elm]

this. Is good.
this. nuh uh.

[river nymph]

ok buddy

[normal sierra]

garbo slashed stockings is what ruins that one, not the asymmetry

[stiff elm]

probably, but the pants that only fully cover one leg is an ehhhh from me.

[river nymph]

even phys alpha has that style

[stiff elm]

phys alpha isn't like one whole pant leg missing

the asymmetry isn't the issue its the half short half long pants

[normal sierra]

phy Alpha has no pantsu

[stiff elm]

all lucia are topless with the exception of CW

[shadow holly]

phys alpha got her sword holder coming out from her ass so we don't talk about phys alpha

[stiff elm]

comically CW appears to be the only non topless lucia

[river nymph]

non-topless?

[stiff elm]

but my real question?

underwear or no underwear

[river nymph]

there are topless lucias?

[stiff elm]

okay maybe not in the specific context you are looking for but I dont think any of them wears a baggage holder

[river nymph]

anyway

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-piss-mr-fresh-cat-cat-feeder-mr-fresh-gif-13079688327065104634

[normal sierra]

most Lucia frames are covered with layers of clothes, why would you assume that?

[stiff elm]

just a wild guess

:)) anyways about brs, is she even wearing anything underneath her skin

[normal sierra]

gib me a cat gif where one slaps the other

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-the-evil-twins-mr-fresh-gif-12768434404560375036

https://tenor.com/view/mr-sibling-mrs-fight-miss-sibling-mr-fight-cat-fight-gif-878178392931188013

[normal sierra]

time to go on a slap-spree

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[stiff elm]

why does zain have so many cat slapping gifs

[frozen creek]

i only have like 3 slapping ones

more cat ones ofc

[stiff elm]

hold on rq, empy has timestop right?

[fringe grove]

cny cw is best skin

[frozen creek]

yes

[fringe grove]

[stiff elm]

and every character after her?

[deft apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1188988444999958578/1122952578213355641.gif

[frozen creek]

no its tiger kamui because it gives crit buff

[stiff elm]

I just scrolled down grayravens site and I see RDF is after empy

capriccio has timestop?? I always believed she was gen 1

[frozen creek]

everyone beyond emp is timestop

[normal sierra]

Empy got her timestop later

[deft apex]

Empy and capri retroactively gained timestop

[frozen creek]

apart from m*le ult 1

[stiff elm]

so... they got timestop but not on debut?

[deft apex]

Yep

[normal sierra]

yeah

[stiff elm]

ok that solves a lot of things tbh

[river nymph]

are you trolling?

[stiff elm]

no I genuinely was convinced she was gen 1

[normal sierra]

after her 376294th buff, she almost resembles a gen2

[river nymph]

i guess her dmg and kit are deceiving as gen2

[stiff elm]

anyways where are we gonna count when gen 3 starts?

[river nymph]

and yeah this is after her like 3rd change/buff

[river nymph]

pretty sure hyper dawn is gen 3

[stiff elm]

yeah I saw all the patch notes, there was one on like faster skill animation right?

[stiff elm]

and that would mean..?

[river nymph]

but the gen term is already arbitrary so it doesn’t really matter

[stiff elm]

like how are we gonna categorize gen 3

[frozen creek]

hyper

[deft apex]

Either teddy or luna

[stiff elm]

yeah but its still a good point at signaling how old a unit is

like garnet is still gen 1 right?

[frozen creek]

gen 3 already started with changyu

[stiff elm]

its a miracle she is holding onto lightning team

[frozen creek]

[river nymph]

in my head gen 3 = 3rd s rank fire attacker

but people have diff definitions

[frozen creek]

[normal sierra]

what the sharky says there? o.o

[river nymph]

and i guess my definition doesnt mesh with amps cuz they are new class

[remote pier]

暗中观察🦈

[stiff elm]

so, what are we gonna nickname the new nanami until her frame drops?

[river nymph]

🦈

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

Balter is gen 3

[stiff elm]

what if its like a game changing character that actually symbolizes the start of gen 3

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

a lot of people just say gen3 started with affix Introduction

[stiff elm]

man whats your beef with nanami

[remote pier]

what's nanami going to do? blow herself up to save the world?

[stiff elm]

then wouldn't that mean like oblivion and after?

[shadow holly]

teddy and after

[stiff elm]

wow so original, empyrea would be rolling in her capsule.

[shadow holly]

technically

[river nymph]

yeah if you define gens by mechanics then gen 2 = timestop, gen 3 = affix, but then characters get affixes in leaps now so idk

[normal sierra]

she going to steal the sun's core and duplicate it to save our planet

[stiff elm]

what about affix on debut?

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/21-yatta-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-12502567287501134160

[stiff elm]

after teddy, everyone gets affix on debut right?

[remote pier]

who knows

[river nymph]

idk, again its an arbitrary term that means nothing to the game really

has no affect on the characters themselves

[stiff elm]

garnet replacement when

[remote pier]

Kuro at this point makes no sense

[stiff elm]

like the removal of scar's crotch zipper

[normal sierra]

why are you obsessed with crotches and zippers?

[remote pier]

pride month is over buddy

[stiff elm]

it was so funny how shaken the wuwa community was because of it

[shadow holly]

yeah this is the main thing
no one other than the terminology - obsessed players cares about "gens"

[shadow holly]

there wasn't a zipper
the joke was the black line that resembled the strip of seaweed used to hold an onigiri

that's why it was referred to as scar onigiri

[stiff elm]

💀

[shadow holly]

yea and cuz it was right on the crotch like a highlight marker like yeah look at me

[deft apex]

It worked, i did look

[stiff elm]

I didn't, I was focused on echo grinding and how punchable his face looked

[grand jay]

Affixes for the time being are arbitrary besides Void

But they're going to be endgame content

So they'll matter just not in the way that would be ideal to most i think

It'll make team building sort of interesting

[glass bay]

What's on the crotch?

Whose crotch?

[shadow holly]

[glass bay]

is it bianca?

[jaunty beacon]

Tbh a lot of people should stop using this confusing term and start to learn how memories work

[shadow holly]

real

[quasi vale]

it's important ok? how can u hero retain without knowing the exact distinction between gens

[river nymph]

[jaunty beacon]

Recent = better. And that's true in every gacha

It's called "making money"

[river nymph]

[quasi vale]

planned obsolescence, they fall off with the same duration of a warranty pmuch

except a certain individual

[grand jay]

Actually multiple

Liv is literally almost 3 years old

And she's STILL meta

[deft apex]

Hyper just lasted a patch longer than mech

[grand jay]

I'm still of the opinion he's gonna be good for like ONE WZ from his leap

Call me deluded but what else would they do

What release another gen 3 dps

[jaunty beacon]

Liv was utter sheet before her leap

[grand jay]

True

[jaunty beacon]

Worst unit of the game

[quasi vale]

that's what u get by hopping between timelines, life expectancy shortens

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

What about changwho

[deft apex]

Tops glory

[jaunty beacon]

He's a meme but was more useful than pre leap lumi

That's how bad she was

[north sail]

should i be using this for alpha or is there a better option?

[jaunty beacon]

4 diesel 2 cottie

Use grayravens.com for the build, in game recommendation is pretty bad

[north sail]

thank you

[shadow holly]

pretty bad
unplayable

[quasi vale]

game watching u swordweave like a madman to get ult

[raw swift]

how bad is this? cuz im new and i just resonancededed all

[jaunty beacon]

Kuro trying is best to brick every plume in zuwen

[raw swift]

damn

[deft apex]

My plume was using 2pc eins for the longest time for whatever reason

Only in kaleido patch i noticed

[jaunty beacon]

It's either sub-optimal or in worst case, hindering your gameplay

[raw swift]

man what do i do with them now? xD

[jaunty beacon]

The 4 piece is correct, only the 2p needs to be changed. And tifa goes on garnet

Without cottie on alpha, you will have a lot of difficulty to access the energies thresholds

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/kitteh-kitty-surprise-peep-sneak-gif-16172831

[glass bay]

She doesn't do dmg anyway

No difference

[deft apex]

Someone had to do dmg before kaleido

She was just handicapped since her debut until kaleido, when she stopped being the spotlight

[stiff elm]

garnet is still meta

[frozen creek]

he said better

[deft apex]

Bridget > wata then

[stiff elm]

I dont see anyone better than garnet at her job

it's still funny to me how lorewise, rozen is the newer model

[frozen creek]

nah as in

like wanshi is way better than garnet

if we get a recent lightning tank it will obviously be better

[glass bay]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gacha-gif-15824347161756019511

[visual topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/981177671612522546.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[vague nebula]

well garnet is still the most recent s rank lightning tank(even tho its been 3 years in cn since her debut)

[vague nebula]

bridget is better than wata
she got boobs

[stiff elm]

so longer than plume.

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

How many days till the 1st phys Savior

[stiff elm]

idk I think its anticipated on 9~15 of june, somewhere that week

from here on lightning shall just die

[dapper skiff]

It really just dies

[river nymph]

noctis ends on the 15th

rozen

palefire

very

just save for garnet, empy, daren, balter leaps

[quiet lily]

save for veritrash

[river nymph]

[quiet lily]

[river nymph]

i mean its your account, but A rank leaps do nothing but help you slightly in guild battle

[dapper skiff]

2 wholenother week of crit malding

https://tenor.com/view/hayase-yuuka-blue-archive-desk-slam-anger-gif-9924102004262469214

[shadow holly]

holy vouchers