📨・meta-help

[digital moat]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-star-rainbowstreak-nbc-gif-4884642

[vast crystal]

Rng on banner isn't enough, we need it in the game

Bruh I don't know this game at all lmao, well tbh I skipped 21

[light inlet]

uhh guys im just returner and theres a S rank omniframe choice pack
which should i chose from bianca-veritas, rosetta or luna ???

[carmine reef]

I'm already mad enough that qte can physically bodyblock me

[jaunty beacon]

rosetta

[mighty tusk]

rigor

[jaunty beacon]

remember that they can stole your buff 🫵

[carmine reef]

[light inlet]

huh why shes the strongest ??

[jaunty beacon]

that's why sophia is trash 🫵

[mighty tusk]

she lasts the longest in terms of meta

[carmine reef]

She's the only relevant one

[light inlet]

ohh ok ok

[jaunty beacon]

every others are outdated are about to be outdated

[woven haven]

honestly the entire affix system is a joke imo
just 20 more mechanics to worry about and nothing to actually smoothen out the transition to affix stuff you’re just thrown off the deep end and forced to learn it

[vast crystal]

Me maining Sophia ||till I get my voodoo ||

[woven haven]

luna shiete
veritas even worse
rosetta already replaced in CN but oh well she’s the last one to go

[light inlet]

wait wait

replaced in CN ??

[woven haven]

I like how new players think the S rank selector that goes up to rosetta is still remotely useful now

[carmine reef]

In cn yes. Which is a year ahead of global

[digital moat]

We have a chinese server about 1 year ahead of us

[woven haven]

everyone on that selector is already powercrept its just a matter of how long they have left

[jaunty beacon]

you have almost 1.5 years before

[carmine reef]

Rosetta still has several months of meta relevance for us until then

[jaunty beacon]

still a long time and not relevant yet for us

[earnest dragon]

Luna’s shiet????? I thought she was good

[mighty tusk]

was

[woven haven]

Luna is dead in a couple months
Veritas has been dead 2 years
Rosetta dying in a year

[woven haven]

Yeah back when she launched but now? lmao

[carmine reef]

Luna laurel is bad even before she's replaced

[digital moat]

Rosetta has 8 more patches to live

[carmine reef]

I hate playing my luna

[jaunty beacon]

people shouldn't care that much about what's happening above 3/4 patches anyway...

[vast crystal]

Another guy said they liked it cause you can build other teams instead of just running the same dark team and over, so I assumed it was enough to rival current element e.g. daren into lighting x ion stage but well I guess not

[woven haven]

Dark Luna was powercrept by Scire as dark main dps

[earnest dragon]

Damn… sips wata tea…

[jaunty beacon]

luna is barely on life support

[carmine reef]

It's so miserable having to play her

[woven haven]

that’s the dumbest assumption because it only goes cross element for one team
every other affix is tied to their own element anyways
lightning’s ionization just happens to allow them to be different element units

[digital moat]

Luna gone in 1 and a half montjs

[mighty tusk]

capri alleviates the misery of playing solo luna

[digital moat]

[jaunty beacon]

luna was the peak solo gameplay tho

on old wz system

[earnest dragon]

Lamia looks so damn cool if i didnt already main wata on dark i would get her 100%

[shadow holly]

[carmine reef]

My capri is SS 5* (but i still swap bc i hate solo luna that much)

[jaunty beacon]

but that's too old now

[woven haven]

And affix stuff doesn’t powercreep old stuff either its just a new set of elements you have to work with

[light inlet]

man its been 2 years since i last played this game and i though luna was the strong one .... ohh well

[mighty tusk]

do you get higher scores playing swap than solo?

[earnest dragon]

Idk man i always hated playing luna she feels so.. disconnected

[carmine reef]

Yeah cause my luna is S 5*

[shadow holly]

well yea she was strong...2years ago

or whenever she was released

[mighty tusk]

same I got her from the novice mission s-rank selector on balter patch

[earnest dragon]

Waitt same i just came back after 2 years

[carmine reef]

I got her from selector too yeah

[jaunty beacon]

it was an era where pgr was still a skill base game

[vast crystal]

So it's basically void but x4 , ok I get it now, and Yh that's annoying....

[mighty tusk]

playing capri with astral is so scuff

[digital moat]

Press buttons fast

[carmine reef]

To this day i still do not own astral

[jaunty beacon]

she's around 1st anni so yeah

[flint salmon]

The anniversary is the 16 of next month right?

[mighty tusk]

yes for gbl

[woven haven]

pgr meta doesn’t die off as fast as HI3 meta but do you really expect the top unit from 2 years ago is still top after that timegap

Powercreep is inherent

[flint salmon]

Cer guess who I got while rerolling

[jaunty beacon]

especially on a gacha

[digital moat]

Veritas

[flint salmon]

No I finally got lucky, crimson weeb

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

This is why pgr returnees are doomed
New meta to catch up to
all your account’s units are functionally dead and are now being tossed out for free on selectors cuz they’re worthless anyways

[vast crystal]

Me learning to ani cancel cw on me own vs me learning that people have been doing this on balter too

[jaunty beacon]

veritrash was so bad that plume stole her ppc bosses 🏃‍♂️

[digital moat]

Balter is so much worse

[woven haven]

might as well be starting on a newbie account

[vast crystal]

Falling skellys are peak meme

[light inlet]

as a long time WoT and WT player i know that pain too well im just double thinking what value i can still get on this selector

[flint salmon]

The only chance to catch up is to wait for a whole new gen , which is sad

[shadow holly]

[mighty tusk]

and get entropy from newbie 40/40 standard

[light inlet]

and thanks everyone

[woven haven]

yeah unfortunately when you see gachas offer a bunch of old units for free on a selector

[earnest dragon]

Should i reroll? My account is 2 years old and kinda bricked

[woven haven]

Its just indicative that they are really old

Even the new free Balter copy on CN is heavily devalued by the fact that she’s also on battlepass vouchers now

[carmine reef]

Ez solution. Just only play new gachas, that way the free units will never be old

[digital moat]

sss balter here i come

[visual topaz]

s+*

[digital moat]

k whel

[vast crystal]

I don't mind powercreep I just hated that in hi3 half the bronyas healed the enemy

[digital moat]

I wonder which unit release on globul 4th anniversary

[vast crystal]

That shiet is soooo bad, like your account was getting actual negative value getting some units

[light inlet]

[woven haven]

ok we don’t talk about hi3 they messed up even harder with their affixes on their part 2 units and content than pgr did

[earnest dragon]

Lee trust

[deft apex]

idk I really value it

[mighty tusk]

more females

[carmine reef]

Which anni is the upcoming one for global? 3rd?

[digital moat]

3

[mighty tusk]

alisa

3rd

[vast crystal]

There is a free balter? pog

[carmine reef]

Not what i asked but thx for the effort HAHA

[ashen edge]

[digital moat]

A free balter copy no questions asked

[mighty tusk]

alisa, a non-hyped unit, falls on 3rd gbl anniv

[light inlet]

whos balter ??

[mighty tusk]

stigmata

[digital moat]

Stigmata

[woven haven]

yes there is a free balter to celebrate her new mediocre leap

[light inlet]

ohhh

[jaunty beacon]

Trash fanmade nickname for bianca

[digital moat]

ong

[light inlet]

bianca alter

[flint salmon]

Balter got a leap

[woven haven]

actually one of the most bleh leaps in recent times

[jaunty beacon]

Fgo brainrot

[vast crystal]

Saber alter

[woven haven]

Daren and Balter leaps are like the pinnacle of “we wanted to sell this new mechanic more than actually improve the old unit”

God i miss how good empy leap was

[light inlet]

oooof

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

new leaps are puke

[digital moat]

At least daren triggers a matrix on core now LMAO

[carmine reef]

They should release a hyper leap that makes him worse

[deft apex]

great idea

[river nymph]

removes all timestop from his kit

[woven haven]

yeah daren actually got qol so i can’t complain but bloody balter leap has one single qol feature IN THE ENTIRE KIT

[mighty tusk]

beta hyper but his core cooldown is shortened

[rose yew]

I'm listening

[digital moat]

Another twitter backlash incoming

[digital moat]

What was that again LMFAO

[quasi vale]

it depends on what you have, sometimes it's better to have already built old teams than starting from nothing, but 2 years ago is a lot

[woven haven]

how do you leap balter and only give her ONE QOL

[carmine reef]

I like hyper but it would be soooo funny

[digital moat]

Qte trigger on core entry?

[woven haven]

Qte on matrixes

[digital moat]

Oh yea

[vast crystal]

Damn that's sad, guess leaps that gave me hope are starting to take it away, I remember being so happy seeing the a ranks get tangible updates but now that isn't a thing I can count on again

[digital moat]

Good job kuro

Ill go back to stacking to 150

[woven haven]

That’s it
no bonus stack gain
no dmg increase for ult2 unless sss+

[vast crystal]

This vs abyss leap, basically fixed her rotations for me

[buoyant hornet]

Is Selena worth getting harmo for?

[carmine reef]

Meh

Eventually

[shadow holly]

all amps harmo is good
capri a bit less than others but still good

[woven haven]

actually once you convert the old stack to the new type you only get more of the new type from spamming the new core move
15 stacks per time iirc
i don’t think balter generates stacks from regular attacks after that

[vast crystal]

It was hard enough stacking 99 as fast as possible for me but then again I have skill issue

[buoyant hornet]

If I do get her harmo what's the 4pc set she'd be using

The extra one I mean

[shadow holly]

4sera 2cot 2ein
(swap cot to guin if sss+)

[mighty tusk]

4 sera 2 eins 2 cottie

[digital moat]

So hanying or go fck yourself moment

[hazy sandal]

[woven haven]

don’t worry the new 150 stacks is false advertising anyways and doesn’t matter

[mighty tusk]

capriccio is HARDLOCKED to seraphine

[woven haven]

the actual dmg bonuses provided by the new 150 is lower than old 99

and only applicable to slash dmg

not physical dmg

[digital moat]

Old stacks did 6% base increase now ones do like 1.5% to slash base damage?

[wooden crystal]

Hey guys I have a question if you Don t mind me asking so I made new pgr account like 2 days ago I m just curious if there is smt about being eligible for anniversary like how long your account has been up for

[woven haven]

it only equals out at SSS+

[vast crystal]

So a nerf to ult? ..wait that doesn't sound right

[buoyant hornet]

What's balter's leap btw

[carmine reef]

No

[visual topaz]

only login

[buoyant hornet]

Is it really that bad?

[wooden crystal]

Aight ty

[digital moat]

Undercooked

[remote pier]

literally just scroll up in chat

[shadow holly]

its not rly an improvement in terms of damage or qol
its mainly for giving her slash affix and making her deal slash damge
so that she benefits more from Solacetune slash buffs

[woven haven]

old stack: 6% per stack to ult2
new stack: 1.2% to slash dmg, 3.5% to ult slash proc
at sss+, change these to 7.5, 2.0 and 5.0 respectively

[vast crystal]

When the world needed him most he didn't vanish

[digital moat]

[mighty tusk]

aetherlao too dalao that we lost him

[remote pier]

surely he moved on to something better

[mighty tusk]

hoyo games

[woven haven]

yes check out my HSR youtube channel frfr

[digital moat]

Honkek starbucks frfr

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

in truth i'm playing the nier games rn

[buoyant hornet]

So basically her leap is useless?

[carmine reef]

Its not useless

[mighty tusk]

useful IF you have s-hanying

[woven haven]

its just so she can do new mechanic stuff

[carmine reef]

It's just an adjustment rather than a big buff

[buoyant hornet]

Aha

[woven haven]

because now slash weak bosses and slash dmg weathers will be in PPC and WZ

this makes balter viable on those while before, only hanying was

[buoyant hornet]

I see that's interesting

[woven haven]

the rest of the leap is undercooked, raw ass idiot sandwich no lamb sauce garbage

[buoyant hornet]

I was honestly shocked she of all people got a leap

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-gordon-ramsay-memes-wheres-the-lamb-sauce-yelling-gif-24454791

[digital moat]

Hanying too can deal slash or physical damage mainly according to how you play her right?

[mighty tusk]

include cw

[buoyant hornet]

Even capri didn't get leap lmao

[woven haven]

i can list all the things balt leap does outside of the new slash mode and its a short ass leap

[digital moat]

Im not quite familiar with her kit

[woven haven]

• up to 75% EDB on 1st Ult for doing Core / 3-pings during matrix (1st Ult barely does damage)
  10% Crit DMG bonus while you have sword gauge in ult
  Trigger QTEs on hold dodge (the only QoL in the leap)
  Moving joystick during sword waves summons a Afterimage that does 80% ATK DMG
  +20% base DMG bonus for orbs
  +15% base dmg bonus for core passive damage
  SSS: Recorded DMG from core passive increases to 110% (previously 100%)
  SSS+: Stigmata Will stacks buff Ult2 by 7.5% (previously 6%)

[buoyant hornet]

Uh WHAT

[mighty tusk]

Yes

she's that underpowered in cn rn

[digital moat]

Cw getting leap in future

[woven haven]

no, the only slash dmg she triggers is the regular slash procs

[digital moat]

meanwhile hyperreal gets ass

[woven haven]

she's like 90% phys

10% slash

[digital moat]

I see

So its not that notable

[buoyant hornet]

I love how the only QOL is invalid if she has new ultima thingy

[buoyant hornet]

So cw is getting leap??

[hazy sandal]

[mighty tusk]

in the works

[woven haven]

its just that no one else has slash so she gets advantage on that

[vast crystal]

Lee will get leap guys trust

[woven haven]

now balter returns to be the main dps instead for that

[mighty tusk]

for sure cw leap will have something to do with affix

[digital moat]

[buoyant hornet]

How tf did they release alpha, have everyone talk about how insanely overpowered she is, then proceed to make subsequent characters even more absurd

[carmine reef]

First time hearing about powercreep?

[woven haven]

announced yes
because they need to sell her new 500 RC skin without people worrying about it being a retirement skin

[mighty tusk]

No she isnt

atleast later down the line

[remote pier]

it's almost like they missed having partial physical dmg units, so they decide to add some new problem called affix

[digital moat]

So we are stuck with for another year at least

[buoyant hornet]

That's what I mean

[woven haven]

the entire "CW will get leap" thing is just saying "WE WON'T REPLACE HER JUST YET, NOW BUY THE SKIN WE NEED CASH FOR WW OVERTIME PAY"

[digital moat]

[shadow holly]

well cuz she was just that strong on release

[buoyant hornet]

Currently in global Alpha is easily the strongest character in isolation

[shadow holly]

its the case with everyone

[buoyant hornet]

I didn't expect gen 2 to keep powercreeping itself 💀

[mighty tusk]

then after garnet leap, lightning gets nothing until cw leap

[woven haven]

ackshuallyyyyyy she was a little short of dominating until 21

[shadow holly]

like
lamia will be the strongest char on her release
wata is the most brokne char on his release
qu is crazy

[carmine reef]

Yeah and then all the other units that came out after are main dps

What do u expect

[buoyant hornet]

Basically this lmao

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[carmine reef]

Constant powercreep is always how this game has worked

[buoyant hornet]

They could've been good without being THAT broken lmao

[digital moat]

Despite being free wanshi is also crazy

[vast crystal]

This!! Exactly this, I remember first time I saw affix I was like... didn't units used to be mixed dmg in the beginning, but well I guess affix brings something NEW so you can't use what you have already to solve it

[buoyant hornet]

I expected them to be Stigmata level of good lol

[shadow holly]

real
cerlao s+ wanshi when

[buoyant hornet]

Not creeping cw level

[mighty tusk]

except it's for different elements + class, which would prolong character lifespan

[carmine reef]

It makes sense for a game that allows you to pull every unit to ensure that you want to pull every unit

[buoyant hornet]

That's exactly what I mean

[carmine reef]

Wouldn't make sense otherwise

[shadow holly]

diff elements anyway
the main places where theyd powercreep cw is neutral bosses

[vast crystal]

Wata leap trust

[buoyant hornet]

You still need different elements though

[mighty tusk]

its easy to powercreep cw though

[woven haven]

but that's cuz his SSS3/SSS6/SSS+ are the best

[carmine reef]

Yeah? Not arguing that

[remote pier]

and then they make a new DV but for all affix

[mighty tusk]

cw suffers from long animation + hold dodge mechanics and backloaded dmg

[digital moat]

When we add everyone in maleviolence to our of account

[shadow holly]

[buoyant hornet]

My point isn't that powercreep is surprising

[digital moat]

Printing money for sss+ on everyones acc

[buoyant hornet]

It's that powercreeping units of a whole different element feels redundant lol

[carmine reef]

That's not really happening though

[buoyant hornet]

I just wonder if they're doing it on purpose

[carmine reef]

Should just consider affixes different elements tbh

[shadow holly]

tbf for neutral content its always just the shiniest toy
and yes often its simply the latest unit
been always like that
cw is not an exception

[buoyant hornet]

Iirc Lamia was intended to encourage rotations

[shadow holly]

not like cw encourages solo

[mighty tusk]

yes and is still stronger than cw because both her dive attack AND ult hits hard

[vast crystal]

Kuro 4d chessing the players

[buoyant hornet]

But then she didn't

[shadow holly]

like she can solo better than others but her solo is still cancer

[carmine reef]

??

[shadow holly]

nah lol lamia solo is ASS

[digital moat]

We should ask snazzz to learn how cancer solo lamia is

[woven haven]

she very much did lmao

[carmine reef]

Yes she still does. But just like always, the rest of your team has to be on par

[remote pier]

Spped run to EOS

[buoyant hornet]

Makes sense

[pine slate]

She didn't? How

[woven haven]

Lamia Solo comps scored a FRACTION of Swap Lamia comps

[pine slate]

Dark is swap unless ur chars r cope af

Solo lamia suck ass to play

[woven haven]

but these idiots don't realise it cuz their dark has been luna solo no scire

[carmine reef]

Just bc the rest of your dark team is weak doesn't mean lamia encourages solo

[quartz dove]

Solo talk

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't dark team need insane invest for them to rotate?

[woven haven]

so it just seems better

[carmine reef]

That just means your team is weak that has nothing to do with lamia's playstyle

[quartz dove]

Dark = anti f2p

[woven haven]

that invest has gotten increasingly cheaper to obtain and there's literally no excuse to not have Scire SS3 anymore

[vast crystal]

Wait dark is Luna solo?

[mighty tusk]

ss3 scire is a requirement for wz

[woven haven]

that was in the olden days of YEAR 2 PGR

[digital moat]

Well around ss3 r2 scire ss/sss r0 capri to make rotate feel not ass

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

and people stupidly stuck to it cuz "muh f2p low invest"

[buoyant hornet]

Ok but think lightning team, you don't need SS3 sig garnet and SSS sig 21 to do rotations

[woven haven]

you do realise daren and capri are both voucherable

[carmine reef]

So what? That still has nothing to do with the playstyle of the character

[buoyant hornet]

I'm not gonna base "encourage rotations" on players who can do all that lol

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1185498808499572766.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[woven haven]

and now you need daren for ion teams

[pine slate]

But Capri sss has voucher, Daren gonna get voucher later on

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

??? it is encouraging rotations
a bloody lot of lamia's kit ESPECIALLY RANKS have swap incentivised mechanics

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Because of vouchers?

[woven haven]

[carmine reef]

By your logic lamia would encourage rotations if she was just 50% weaker

Does that make sense to you lmao

[remote pier]

oh nyo, is this another case of skk

[quartz dove]

But what if i skip

[woven haven]

and not to mention the score gap is literally unreal between solo lamia and swap lamia

[buoyant hornet]

Idk about 50% but I think there's a problem with balancing investment in teams tbh

[carmine reef]

That's literally just how powercreep works

[woven haven]

"what if" stfu with your piddly ass lies you SSS+ fatso

[buoyant hornet]

That's primarily a dark team problem though ig

[floral sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/trolling-anime-me-after-a-long-day-gif-25970094

[stiff elm]

Another day another chance to brick my account

[vast crystal]

Lorian caught in 4k

[quartz dove]

Fire is actually more expensive than dark

[stiff elm]

How long till echo?

[vast crystal]

Go for it

[quartz dove]

But no one ever complain about fire

[woven haven]

look if you live under a rock and think lamia solo is the way to go you have a long way to learn

[quartz dove]

[remote pier]

didn't you skip hyper?

[carmine reef]

Jul 16

[stiff elm]

Still got like a good 2 1/2 weeks

[carmine reef]

Yes

[pine slate]

Imagine using any team below sss

[buoyant hornet]

I specifically said it's a problem at normal people levels of investment

[woven haven]

lamia solo is the "easiest" of the new gen solos in that its relatively consistent in uptime
but there are so many underlying issues with the solo rotation it feels like garbage in practice

[buoyant hornet]

SSS sig capri and SS3 Daren being needed just to consider rotating isn't good

[digital moat]

From what i have seen, when some people complain about dark team they usually complain about how their proper rotation requirement is so high when compared to other teams

[carmine reef]

It's dumb to act like that's "lami playstyle encouraging solo"

[vast crystal]

[pine slate]

Honestly tho, I do think lamia solo might be enough to hero retain in glb

[buoyant hornet]

You're just putting words in my mouth lmao

[shadow holly]

it will be

how many people do you think have decent invest and have 2 hands

[pine slate]

Even cw solo rn can still hero retain

[floral sinew]

hero is just

[quartz dove]

U kinda want sss empy in fire too but no one ever talk about it its funny s+ assuming wata lee team

[visual topaz]

4

[digital moat]

When fire team does fine with ss0 sig and one or two resos

[pine slate]

K whel

[quartz dove]

[floral sinew]

f2p

[remote pier]

you can Luna solo hero retain now

[digital moat]

Obv damage is not amazing

[buoyant hornet]

Want ≠ need

Plus empy is getting leap

My point here is

[quartz dove]

Yeah and capri is free

[buoyant hornet]

Selena needed to be either replaced or leaped

[woven haven]

i mean SSS+ Empy is needed for the "proper rotation" post Wata so that's just strawmanning invest levels

[buoyant hornet]

Her invest requirement is insane

[woven haven]

🙄

[pine slate]

Capri is just sht

[digital moat]

Just hope your bracket is slack

[buoyant hornet]

And I'm saying this as someone who's getting her to SSS relatively soon

[quartz dove]

Oh yeah for sure shes old

[pine slate]

I genuinely hate using Capri

[buoyant hornet]

So much time and investment just to have her enter rotation lol

[quartz dove]

Thtat also apply to empy too

[remote pier]

just need to be in na

[mighty tusk]

ss with sig + dlt

[quartz dove]

Hello dalao god

[vernal charm]

Hi. If I have completed story chapter 6 which I think is the last important unlock, should I just use all my serum to do the current wasteland event to build my 5 teams and their memory set 6*? Or should I push story. Currently have 3 team setup, but only 1 is well build

[buoyant hornet]

"free" but you have to either pull on her banner or wait 7 months to make her playable

[vast crystal]

I love her ult, the build up eats away at my sanity everytime

[woven haven]

while dark team is expensive they really have done a lot to curb soloing on lamia

[deft apex]

Only capri they havent curbed

[buoyant hornet]

This doesn't indicate anything lmao

[pine slate]

Story if u need bc, event stage if u need resources

[remote pier]

hello dalao

[woven haven]

free selectors with daren capri, both on voucher shop, literally lamia SS3 and SSS are swap focused and you are wasting money on them if you solo lamia

[quartz dove]

Capri survive another patch is funny to me

[mighty tusk]

if only capri can gather enemies even from afar before her ult finishes

[floral sinew]

r3

[digital moat]

Once crapi is gone dark will feel much better imo

[woven haven]

no point remaining on "hurr durr solo viable" when the entire game has been pushing for swap team

Qu is like the perfect example of an actual meta solo experience

[quartz dove]

Who is thay

[digital moat]

Daren is voucherable already to ss3

[pine slate]

@digital moat u got Daren?

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-mirror-look-at-yourself-gif-14778330

[digital moat]

Yes

[pine slate]

[digital moat]

But she is only s0

[quartz dove]

Qu solo op tho look at her insane wz score

[analog coral]

doesnt qu absolutely suck to play experience wise

[digital moat]

But i have a lot of extra skulls already

[pine slate]

Idk if I should get her on standard bro

[floral sinew]

prob

[digital moat]

How long are you planning to play

[woven haven]

yes

[pine slate]

Idk lol

[vernal charm]

Any must have character coming soon? I have like 5k BC atm. If not I think Imma just prio event since that's limited and story is always there

[digital moat]

Uh

[analog coral]

idk ive heard its good but like it absolutely sucks

[woven haven]

its just torture to play Qu

[vast crystal]

Guys who would you recommend me spending lamia selector on, and yes assuming am skipping everyone till Lucia ||because I am ||

[analog coral]

thats the neat part

[pine slate]

We get an event stage like that every update

[analog coral]

your entire pulling schedule has p much been dictated for the next year or so

[woven haven]

Stagger every 5s
run out of orbs every 3s
run off to narnia every 6s

[mighty tusk]

oh nyo you're gonna get roasted by aether

[woven haven]

how much can you tolerate plume solo levels of painful

[analog coral]

so basically a 9 to 5 job

[woven haven]

no i don't bother with those people anymore

[quartz dove]

At least her basic attack is ice not physical

[digital moat]

Well you could continue to do future proof choices or just jump into bed with wata

[vernal charm]

what exactly do u mean by that

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

its their account, their problem, no one should care

[vernal charm]

Oops wrong tag

[analog coral]

with the power of cn foresight

[hazy sandal]

【成年人战区破防瞬间-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/5IIntjk

[woven haven]

if they come back crying about score or whatever then you can beat the living daylights out of them

[hazy sandal]

I hope you plz don’t understand this

Just run

[pine slate]

I kinda wanna know the diff in score between 21 vs r1 scire

[woven haven]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hazy sandal]

[vast crystal]

I mean if I can't stop being broke before she drops then I'll roll but I want atleast one sss+ in pgr so why not her

[woven haven]

SETSU WHY WOULD YOU SHOW ME THIS

[visual topaz]

Aether just had a stroke

[woven haven]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[quartz dove]

Red where ?

[visual topaz]

see?

[vast crystal]

Oof

[woven haven]

WHAT THE

[analog coral]

if you want an sss+ just farm one ez

sss+ empy time

[quartz dove]

He want his s+ waifu

[analog coral]

too bad

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

i'm done

[vast crystal]

Damn impossible dream huh

[visual topaz]

o7

[woven haven]

this video has spiked my blood pressure too much

[visual topaz]

we lost Aether for gud

[digital moat]

Is it a good thing that i dont understand this

[woven haven]

[quartz dove]

I kinda dont want to understand

[remote pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1201790868022108221/991991415443816468.gif

[quartz dove]

[analog coral]

im not cn enough to understand inside jokes

[woven haven]

you better bloody hope you don't understand this

[analog coral]

more like from now till lucia its gonna be an oof

[hazy sandal]

Quit this game until wanshi. You are welcome to not know this

[mighty tusk]

translate it

[digital moat]

[analog coral]

i mean im not gonna stop you lmao i think its funny to see how long people can last

[vernal charm]

Any chance you could help me decide who to pull based on my current roster?

[analog coral]

with the power of cn foresight

pull everyone* (tnc applies)

[quartz dove]

Surely there is waifu enjoyer that stay for long right

[analog coral]

idk if we've changed out pull advice lmao

[mighty tusk]

• story skippers

[analog coral]

but it p much chalked up to anyone who couldn't be farmed, pull for them

[woven haven]

ok to explain simply

Qu core passive needs to go in this order
3 -> 1-3 (enter core passive) -> 3 (build core stack) -> core passive -> ult
THIS IS AT SSS, THE ROTATIONS ARE MUCH WORSE BELOW 3S
so at the 1-3 portion, obviously hitting 1 is ideal cuz it saves orbs
but if you have to ping 3 -> 3 to enter core, this means you've just wasted a 3ping you could have used to build the core stack and ult

[vast crystal]

Am pretty good but Yh the voices might get me if it's literally a year

[vernal charm]

What if I'm f2p

[hazy sandal]

Too long need tldr

[visual topaz]

this is TL;DR

[analog coral]

yeah thats the f2p baseline

[woven haven]

and fyi to enter core passive it NEEDS to be 3+1/2/3 INSTANTLY with no delay

if you delay on selecting the second set of orbs you reset and need to ping 3 again to start

[analog coral]

im kinda lazy to crop the roadmap

[hazy sandal]

Smh

[earnest dragon]

Its ez to get everyone as f2p, if you dont pull free units or A ranks you’ll accumulate enough bc to get every debut S rank

[quartz dove]

So qu ss0 solo is cope ?

[visual topaz]

ye

[digital moat]

[pine slate]

That's what u do as a f2p

[woven haven]

it is literal hell and i've never tried it

[quartz dove]

Anti f2p game

[floral sinew]

ez

[quartz dove]

[visual topaz]

guy above in the comment said for short lucky you have SSS Qu because i play with SS3

[pine slate]

Damn ss0 qu solo feels like torture to play? Now I'm getting excited

[quartz dove]

Time to play swap qu

[mighty tusk]

damn you a masochist

[vast crystal]

Ayo?

[remote pier]

Qu solo or Kaleido?

[pine slate]

Furylao strats

[earnest dragon]

How much time do u spend on cn pgr socials to decipher the lingo 💀 ts like a whole new language to me

[analog coral]

thinking about how torturous it sounds

[visual topaz]

0 sec

[quartz dove]

WDYM KALEIDO KALE CANT SOLO

[visual topaz]

i can read

[analog coral]

stop talking i cant get any harder

[quartz dove]

[vernal charm]

Also without the monthly pass? Just from events and dailies?

[analog coral]

yeah lol

[pine slate]

Ye

[digital moat]

The ass gameplay increases the thrill

[mighty tusk]

also dont pull sigs because this can lessen your BC count for s-ranks

[pine slate]

Fr

[digital moat]

[earnest dragon]

Yeah just from events and dailies but monthly gives you a lil boost, its really cheap too

[analog coral]

gameplay so bad it finished me

[quartz dove]

Fellow f2p

[remote pier]

but solo OP

[pine slate]

Currently mob ice + dark feels the best to play

[brisk temple]

wtf aethervoid was here today

[visual topaz]

feipang

[vernal charm]

That's crazy

[mighty tusk]

dark = ez retain

[digital moat]

Just reading this made me blast off from ground

[woven haven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JH4y1m7Bv/ ok this one GLB idiots should understand at least

[pine slate]

If u get monthly, u get a chance to pull for every character's sigs which r pretty important

[static night]

Me too

[mighty tusk]

wym? glb just hold dodge because cw op

[remote pier]

those were my orbs earlier this week

[woven haven]

@hazy sandal save me i'm stuck in these vids now

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

Speaking of I am seeing lamia,

[quartz dove]

that cw orb

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-luna-pgr-gif-8083599800134081948

[hazy sandal]

S+ lamia users now must use a blue dupe bug too

[brisk temple]

should I do signa bot, so i can swap top between DV and philip?

[hazy sandal]

👍

[woven haven]

ok but DV is higher base atk

[brisk temple]

[woven haven]

you should make a 4dv2signa set dv bot then a 4signa2philip set signa bot

[quartz dove]

So u do 4 dv and reso 2 signa ?

[woven haven]

that's the optimal way

[visual topaz]

that's maximizing atk output

[woven haven]

[visual topaz]

rip HT

[hazy sandal]

How can I use alisa as PPC dps

[static night]

In this hypertune economy?

[brisk temple]

I see, i'll do that then

[visual topaz]

I'll personally just build signa bottom and have harmonized DV Phillip 2P

[woven haven]

hey don't tell him that

[visual topaz]

i alrdy told him

[woven haven]

i was really hoping to see someone spend 24ht on alisa

[visual topaz]

he just forgor

[woven haven]

aww man

[visual topaz]

he is EU 2nd whelest acc

he can afford for it

[quartz dove]

2nd

Whose the first ?

[visual topaz]

Iza

ofc

[quartz dove]

Oh yeah

[visual topaz]

god bless both poseidon

[quartz dove]

[brisk temple]

wtf, i trusted you man wtf 😠

[visual topaz]

[woven haven]

hey i don't play the game anymore and i'm bored

[brisk temple]

it's ok

[hazy sandal]

I am bored and lonely
My warzone is closed

[brisk temple]

i'm quitting soon too and start full time trolling on this channel

[visual topaz]

if you do that glb is gonna eos

[deft apex]

no way whale is quitting

[brisk temple]

zera and NA will carry the funding

[jaunty beacon]

I'll top signa because this existed👨‍🦯

[visual topaz]

Zera is kiwitting after Shukra patch

[brisk temple]

what is shukra

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

Qucc

[visual topaz]

qu frame

[jaunty beacon]

Qu

[brisk temple]

fk

[woven haven]

you should quit after Wata tbh

he's the most fun you'll ever get

[hazy sandal]

Lmao snipe

[brisk temple]

that's what everyone is telling me

[pine slate]

No more s+ players

[woven haven]

then its all downhill

[pine slate]

When's Jeremy quitting

[woven haven]

enjoy malding luna basic orb weaving

[brisk temple]

he already quit

[pine slate]

[woven haven]

jeremey account is like a zombie hydra now

its not even his anymore

[brisk temple]

jeremey is full time wuwa malder now

[pine slate]

[brisk temple]

he scored highest in alloy smelt

[remote pier]

full time echo farmer

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/zwm0QfQOFWg?si=3TeiXgH3JJQuvwqH

No I will help them quit more faster

[woven haven]

u know what's funny
i did want to try WW but external irl circumstances mean i can't so oh well

i played it for like a couple days but can't sustain it

[remote pier]

mental saved once again

[static night]

@visual topaz

[brisk temple]

can you explain to me why its going downhill after that? what are CN ppl complaining about mostly these days? i want to tell my friends to quit too

[visual topaz]

I'm a zooplankton in the vast ocean

[woven haven]

i actually really like jinhsi anims but

[deft apex]

best time to play is whenever changli comes, other than that you can quit

[static night]

U are first in my heart

[jaunty beacon]

do your gb

[brisk temple]

when was the last time you touched pgr btw?

[static night]

Today wtf

[visual topaz]

i did 2/3

[brisk temple]

wtf you're back?

[static night]

Im a daily avid pgr player

[brisk temple]

[static night]

I never left

[jaunty beacon]

33 players, ded guild

[river nymph]

[shy bane]

where do i see how much bc ppc gives?

[brisk temple]

my bad, i confused you with smiley

[visual topaz]

replace Endd and Ange

[static night]

Wtf bro not cool. Anyone but him

[shadow holly]

weekly missions

ppc itself doesn't give much

like 50 weekly from score missions

[shy bane]

ah thanks

[jaunty beacon]

i'm pondering if i should go to ar for the GE

[visual topaz]

Leader is still Seeya

[static night]

Wtf no

[woven haven]

i mean i don't really know what CN thinks rn but personally its just the stagnancy of how pgr works at base
WZ and PPC being timed modes will never be innovative enough, even Super PPC is kinda bad in how it works cuz its just more RNG than regular EXPPC
additionally being forced to play Qu Ice WZ for MONTHS on end without knowing when we'd get ice tank and that led me to quit after Hanying
Additionally, new affix mechanics are just a cluster of bad design decisions overall that just make things even more confusing and only serves to sell new units and the leaped favourites like balt/cw

[jaunty beacon]

it's the only guild where i'm sure they'll go full reward

[static night]

Not really

[woven haven]

in terms of units
i think Luna and Hanying were relatively fun at base
but Luna is hell to optimise
Qu is just no

[visual topaz]

just join last GE top 5 guild

[static night]

Even uc gets full rewards even with the slack

[brisk temple]

understandable

[river nymph]

[brisk temple]

how is the onslaught ppc more rng than ex tho?

[jaunty beacon]

uc is full mia rn

[woven haven]

10x higher HP pool and the modifier for the boss varies

[brisk temple]

fk

[woven haven]

Dark buff was actually cancer

[vernal charm]

Oh I see. I might have to get it then

[woven haven]

because it made u go pick up sophia orbs around the map

to get 5% dark dmg bonus per orb

[vernal charm]

Any way to get a lot of 5* weapons if can't get sig?

[brisk temple]

nice wz score btw

[woven haven]

and you get a temp bonus if you collect 6 orbs

[river nymph]

thanks

[brisk temple]

wtf

[woven haven]

but the issue is the orb hitbox is small and Lamia is zooming around the map with no control

[brisk temple]

[woven haven]

due to her inherent animations

pair this with ass bosses like RM and Cradle

[river nymph]

sea scoring pretty cope this rot

[woven haven]

in Super PPC i mean

actually all the bosses are ass

its RM, Cradle, Lamia and they just added naked tifa

[brisk temple]

are the orbs always in the same locations or is it random spawn?

[woven haven]

spawns randomly from the boss and flies out in a random direction when you hit the boss with dark dmg

[brisk temple]

bruh

[woven haven]

its one of the worst buffs

lightning one iirc was you have a zone around you and enemies in the zone take more dmg

so if the boss decides to fly off lmao

void one was also kinda ass

[brisk temple]

[woven haven]

Fire and Ice was just a straight up "Boss takes more dmg" but they change the weakness number like every patch

so the run will vary

actually i think every super ppc modifier changes the value per patch

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

so you can't even use references unless its exact same patch

because the effective HP will change

[mighty tusk]

sounds like onslaught ppc is gonna be a slack content for me then...

[woven haven]

its a difference of 6 skulls iirc

between bottom 100% at top 1%

don't bother malding it frankly just get your score in to be valid for rewards

[floral sinew]

a whole 6 skulls

[mighty tusk]

or just mald whenever you feel like it

[woven haven]

yeah 66 for bottom Onslaught and 72 for 1%

literally what is the point

[floral sinew]

1% on glb should be easy

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

you just need to ensure you qualify for onslaught

[woven haven]

no its not

[floral sinew]

for na

[mighty tusk]

small incentive for the highest 1%

[woven haven]

onslaught 1% is IN THE ONSLAUGHT POOL

[river nymph]

its gonna be 1 or 2 people at most lmaooo

[floral sinew]

oh

[mighty tusk]

and most people on gbl can't even reach 1.8 mil rn

[woven haven]

only people who score 1.8 mil in EXPPC consistently can enter onslaught in the first place

[jaunty beacon]

1% of the player above 1.8m 🏃‍♂️

[woven haven]

[river nymph]

[floral sinew]

[remote pier]

just have Kuro make more bad decisions so more whels quit

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

since they will remove test and elite soon, what's the new max score for knight - hell?

and I assume one will need 600k for each bosses to enter onslaught ppc

[shadow holly]

i think ive seen hell being like 370k-smth

basically maximum total per boss is still the same

[woven haven]

its enough that say a
8/8/8/9/10 run
with test and elite factored in
scores lower than
8/9/10 run with them removed

so its a net positive score buff by a little bit

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

didn't the test elite removal killed adv scoring

[mighty tusk]

that means no longer need to mald on hell if I exceed 40 sec (for tanky bosses) for 600k then?

[vague nebula]

[sly geyser]

K - 93k
C - 186k
H - 372k

[shadow holly]

39-40s is for 580k tho

[mighty tusk]

yeah, now I have to adjust my clear times because I dont know the new benchmark

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

should be around the same still
jsut small difference

[mighty tusk]

remember: 1 sec difference in ppc is huge

[visual topaz]

20 pts test adv

[quartz dove]

They want all f2p to move to wuwa

[river nymph]

please

[quartz dove]

[remote pier]

[cerulean grotto]

When is it going to be removed/new mode applied?

[river nymph]

youre not going anywhere tho

[vague nebula]

void luna i think

[cerulean grotto]

It'll become even more

[sly geyser]

luna void iirc

[mighty tusk]

offer all to alpha he said
it will be fun he said

[cerulean grotto]

I'm talking about removal of test/elite?
Is it that late?

[remote pier]

but I am

[river nymph]

[astral marsh]

Guy's what's the state of pgr? I haven't played since WuWa dropped, I'm curious about what's going on rn :)

[remote pier]

game has become too whel

[cerulean grotto]

Dw alpha focus build trust

[river nymph]

hypermintpicker?

[cerulean grotto]

[sly geyser]

just play wuwa bro

[river nymph]

[sly geyser]

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397610633790750733/1249894165693599755/image0.gif

[astral marsh]

That I am, but been playing pgr since over a year. Just don't have storage to play both rn. I'm just wondering what's going on rn, like what unit is releasing/if any free stuff is given etc

[river nymph]

[cerulean grotto]

Is he offended cuz he's hyperechopicker ?

[sly geyser]

nothing rn so no worries

[wispy plank]

mint picker ?

[sly geyser]

it's a dead patch

[mighty tusk]

including next patch?

[astral marsh]

When is something exciting gonna happen? When's the anniv?

[mighty tusk]

alisa isnt hyped in gblul

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/salty-salt-bae-bcfc-bad-cats-gif-25197658

[astral marsh]

Oh is it A rank patch?

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

july 16 is anniv

[sly geyser]

July 16th

[cerulean grotto]

Well, every single character is free if you play long enuf

[sly geyser]

ye

[lost anchor]

guys, which enemy combination i need to do to get 5 point? (limit break event , stage 2-1)

[cerulean grotto]

Oh limit break is up right

[carmine reef]

just max it all out

[astral marsh]

Aight. So just save patch. I c. I'll be then coming back in anniv ig, Alisa dropping on anniv patch?

[cerulean grotto]

Meh I'll speedrun it later

[carmine reef]

add all enemies with the highest point affix

[quartz dove]

I need this people critrate man

[sly geyser]

next patch vladilena is coming ain't no way I'm missing that skin

[lost anchor]

i did but i can only get 4 point max

[mighty tusk]

but people did not come to pgr for some random a s s bow unit

[carmine reef]

you have to do it again

[remote pier]

harder mod will appear after first clear

[carmine reef]

yeah now clear it

[cerulean grotto]

Hey it's colourful

[sly geyser]

is it one shottable ?

[cerulean grotto]

[carmine reef]

normal and hard are both oneshottable tbh

[cerulean grotto]

This is uniframe stage?

[sly geyser]

so time to mald ig

[carmine reef]

what's there to mald

[lost anchor]

yes

[lost anchor]

yeah its quite easy

[cerulean grotto]

Its gonna be fun

[sly geyser]

I wanna finish it in one day

[carmine reef]

i don't consider that mald

[cerulean grotto]

Uniframes aren't dead yet

[lost anchor]

and thanks, i got 5 points somehow

[cerulean grotto]

[sly geyser]

looks like everyone has is own definition of malding

[lethal sun]

Bro what

[astral marsh]

Ah gray raven wiki is very helpful, it shows all the current event/banner/rewards etc that's happening. Very nice.

[carmine reef]

to me malding is spending lots of time and energy specifically to minmax your performance on something

but you don't really have to minmax limit break

[cerulean grotto]

Events are not malding tru

[carmine reef]

you're just playing it

it's the same as if you claimed playing through a lot of story at once is malding story

[cerulean grotto]

True malding is ppc, wz and norman with suboptimal units

[sly geyser]

prolly right

[carmine reef]

doesn't really make sense. you're just playing

[visual topaz]

malding necessarily translates to hairloss

[sly geyser]

I see

[cerulean grotto]

Chat, I found a copypasta by aetherlao

Balter's leap actually works like this

• up to 75% EDB on 1st Ult for doing Core / 3-pings during matrix (1st Ult barely does damage)
  10% Crit DMG bonus while you have sword gauge in ult
  Trigger QTEs on hold dodge (the only QoL in the leap)
  Moving joystick during sword waves summons a Afterimage that does 80% ATK DMG
  +20% base DMG bonus for orbs
  +15% base dmg bonus for core passive damage
  SSS: Recorded DMG from core passive increases to 110% (previously 100%)
  SSS+: Stigmata Will stacks buff Ult2 by 7.5% (previously 6%)
  Entirety of Balter's leap not related to the Slash DPS mode is above
  as for how Slash mode works
  after 5th Basic in ult mode, next BA is a 5 hit move that converts ALL of Balter's existing Stigmata Will stacks to a new stack type called Ebon (Ebon stacks do not buff ult2). New Ebon stack has a cap of 150. Each time you use 6th BA, gain 15 Ebon stacks
  After casting the 6th BA, Balter no longer generates afterglow sword shadows for the rest of the ult
  if you have the lantern icon on the UI (that lets u do swordwaves), you can instead dodge + BA to spam this new 6th BA
  6th BA also triggers slash procs if possible, each Ebon stack balter has buffs this slash proc by 1.2%
  If you used 6th BA, Balter's ult2 is changed, and now does an additional hit of 450-900% Slash DMG based on the available Insight points Balter can consume, up to 10. Each Ebon stack buffs this Slash DMG by 3.5% per stack. (since you have no Stigmata Will, the original ult multiplier doesn't get buffed)
  To enable Balter to work as a Slash DPS, her Signal Orbs in Matrix and her Core Passive now generate Blade points
  SS: Each time 6th BA triggers a Slash Proc, +8 energy
  SSS: 6th BA Extra DMG Bonus +30%
  SSS+: Ebon stacks buff BA Slash Proc by 1.2% -> 2.0%, and Ult2 Slash Proc by 3.5% -> 5.0% per stack

[sly geyser]

for me if I spend too much time in that game is alr malding

[river nymph]

[carmine reef]

you've never spent a lot of time in a game bc you enjoy it?

[sly geyser]

no just for the rewards

[carmine reef]

[cerulean grotto]

Tbh, I don't enjoy pgr

[carmine reef]

yall need help

[sly geyser]

me neither

[deft apex]

at this point anyone playing pgr actually doesn't like it

[cerulean grotto]

It's either just for the satisfaction of doing my best in ppc

[carmine reef]

i like pgr and that's why i play it. i think if you guys are not having fun you should stop

[cerulean grotto]

Or doing story

[visual topaz]

[cerulean grotto]

Ppc mald is fun

4 hours to simply 580k that mf dark shark is fun

[visual topaz]

4h footage, this 40 sec vid is 16 minutes/4h of me crit-resetting Tifa

[river nymph]

how im trying to be fr

[cerulean grotto]

[sly geyser]

no hairloss detected

[visual topaz]

it's not hairloss since i'm wearing a wig

[sly geyser]

[cerulean grotto]

Mfs, y'all should try 580k dark shark with 222 155 invest

[remote pier]

you can afford a wig?

[cerulean grotto]

[visual topaz]

wdym afford i made it from my own hair

[cerulean grotto]

Talented dalao

[cerulean grotto]

[visual topaz]

"nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed"

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[remote pier]

conservation of energy?

[visual topaz]

conservation of hair

[digital moat]

You will get it one Day

[visual topaz]

i got it

[digital moat]

[remote pier]

[digital moat]

Hows your hair

[visual topaz]

i solved the problem by building Thorny

[digital moat]

Your legs must be spotless

[visual topaz]

since that day i've never float malded adv again

[digital moat]

Is that sss3 stigmata

[visual topaz]

nah

[digital moat]

3s0?

[visual topaz]

nah

[sly geyser]

SSS+ ?

[digital moat]

S+

[visual topaz]

nah

SSS6 because i'm dumb

[digital moat]

Sss6 no way

Omg

Isnt that swordwave dmg one

sss6 balter

[frozen creek]

s+ or brick

[visual topaz]

me frfr

[sly geyser]

99.9% brick

[digital moat]

Fr

[visual topaz]

and yeah

SSS6 is the sw damage bonus

tho it got fkng nerfed because sword waves capped at 3

[static night]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[deft apex]

https://tenor.com/view/lifeisroblox-dj-khaled-life-is-roblox-bring-out-the-whole-ocean-they-aint-believin-us-gif-2020335765381613571

[sage kiln]

no you were big brain because we're getting a free copy of her in a year so you saved money 👍

[visual topaz]

rip

1 dupe is gonna get me to SSS7/8 at best

nothing changes

[floral sinew]

[river nymph]

shes also in voucher

[sacred otter]

Bro 😭

is this real

[woven sable]

still not worth pulling lol

[floral sinew]

70% really is just a 50/50

[stiff elm]

Does anyone got the affix chart

I forgot to save it last time

[sacred otter]

it’s for weapon banner too

and it’s worse than before

why

[pine slate]

Isn't weapon banner still the same 80%

[river nymph]

should be

[pine slate]

But it's guaranteed after losing

How is it worse

[stiff elm]

I want the affix chart 😭

[river nymph]

why

[stiff elm]

Just cause

Who wouldnt want a sheet thats easy to look back on

[carmine reef]

i think you could argue that the arrival change is worse

no idea how you could say that about the wep banner change though

[sly geyser]

where's the change actually ? wasn't it already 3 units ?

[carmine reef]

no like

[carmine reef]

current arrival is you have 3 target options, but when you're pulling, the offrate pool is every other char

change is that the offrate pool becomes the other 2 of the 3, instead of every other char

[sly geyser]

oh really?

I thought it was alr like that before lol

[carmine reef]

someone's never pulled arrival clearly

[remote pier]

Fire is just ... burn. Shafted as usual

[carmine reef]

you could argue it's worse bc sometimes people luck out on an offrate that's actually better than any of the 3 options

[sly geyser]

I alr pulled but always won lol

[shadow holly]

surely burn is only garbo with Bridget
they might crank up some fat numbers on burn for S ranks

[remote pier]

they need a better naming team

[carmine reef]

wata where

[sly geyser]

imagine pulling ur 70% stigmata and then got offrated with luminance in post Alisa 💀

it's actually a "good" change ig

[carmine reef]

i pulled arrival stigmata as a newbie and got ember instead which is objectively worse than lumi so

[sly geyser]

just get ur free skin brodie

[carmine reef]

got it

[rose yew]

simply wait for 3 meta units to on the banner itself and pull

[sly geyser]

yeah that why I'm saying it's "good"

but wait miku no misinfo ?

[rose yew]

I'm waiting for entropy ember and crimson abyss to be on the same banner

[sly geyser]

I didn't say anything 💀

[carmine reef]

lately there have been so many trolls with such bad takes that even miku has been having to give good advice in order to stay contrarian

[pallid cypress]

i need a super cracked uniframe now

[carmine reef]

okay

hf with that

[rose yew]

scar uniframe in pgr cn on September

[pallid cypress]

for norman

[sly geyser]

here we go again

[carmine reef]

you really don't for norman

they give you trials. they're good enough

[remote pier]

her name is Selena Tempest

[pallid cypress]

well i tried several times with the trial uniframes and they dont drain the guard bar fast enough

[carmine reef]

don't take this in an aggressive way but that's genuinely skill issue

[pallid cypress]

someone has a fully built camu?

[rose yew]

that's just skill issue

[sly geyser]

just use ur Camu alongside with them

[carmine reef]

you have to make more use of the blue dodges

[remote pier]

you don't even need full build unis

[glass bay]

now that we get 100%

[rose yew]

it takes me 3 min to perform execute at most if I'm lazy

[glass bay]

u misinfo the unit itself?

[river nymph]

cw leap will give her burn that will do %hp scaling true dmg trust

[carmine reef]

hold dodge when they have the blue light and the speed dodge drains gauge a lot

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-evil-on-fire-gif-8633120

[rose yew]

wdym entropy have always been a good unit and ember is a good fit for the new Lucia in CN

[glass bay]

sure sure

[pallid cypress]

i see

i just kinda dontl ike playing with uniframes

[carmine reef]

well it doesn't seem like you know how to play them so it makes sense that you wouldn't

[pallid cypress]

doesnt help that norman never gives other uniframes in trial to play with

[remote pier]

bc that's all you need to clear Norman?

[sly geyser]

if u don't like playing with uniframes, I don't think playing with one or another will make a difference

[carmine reef]

i think the last point is just about variety, which i think is fair

[remote pier]

you can always use omni team to brute force it

[carmine reef]

personally i like uniframe gameplay so i would like getting a wider variety to play around with in norman

[sly geyser]

they should be S+ at least

[glass bay]

isnt uniframe removed from norman

in cn

[pallid cypress]

yeah, i like noan, rolan and pu lao gameplay

[sly geyser]

ye

[pallid cypress]

also i just noticed the blue dodge thing

my bad

[carmine reef]

yeah just wishful thinking

[glass bay]

[pallid cypress]

so at the blue light dodge, hold down dodge and the character will do a counter attack that takes out a good chunk of the guard gauge

[carmine reef]

yep

[glass bay]

#📨・meta-help message

[carmine reef]

it also procs matrix too if you have it up so it's objectively better to do so

and also they are really cool animations

[quasi vale]

bollie pioner can be a problem with trials and 0 battery, just because the fight drags on into 2nd level of extra damage certain weeks and it can be super dangerous, but u have 150+ battery to distribute (or full battery if skipping cloud)

[pallid cypress]

yeah

[sly geyser]

just S+ all ur omni

and slap all the battery into them

[glass bay]

wtf equal votes

[pallid cypress]

@carmine reef you are right the animations are indeed cool

[carmine reef]

[raw swift]

Is Noctis a good unit for early game?

[carmine reef]

sure

but if you can afford to pull anniversary banner next month you can get cw there

A ranks will always be nothing more than placeholders, they can't hope to compete with S ranks

[raw swift]

Oh it's anniversary next month?

[carmine reef]

yes

[raw swift]

Will we get a lot of black cards

[carmine reef]

10 pull for free + the normal amount from patches

[raw swift]

I see

What is the normal amount for patches?

[carmine reef]

uhh usually like 10k bc i think?

[rose yew]

thrice

[carmine reef]

nowadays at least