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grand jay
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I need it so bad

quasi vale
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since it's an A rank patch the closest estimate would be looking at Hanying's that lasted the same amount of days, it was over 8k bc (closer to 9k for those who do norman cloud mine) plus around 5 pulls worth of tickets, so 9-10k total

thorn creek
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Love her Yin Yang type asthetic

grand jay
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I would singlehandedly skip Lucia but I'm a meta chaser so

thorn creek
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But good lord Wata got the bloodborne drip

grand jay
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Already have 648 RC in my acc

signal sigil
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show me

thorn creek
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Wata's skin was the number one for me

grand jay
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Oh my God that Wata skin

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I NEED that like yesterday as well

thorn creek
feral pollen
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just travel into future EvilLiv

thorn creek
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Bloodborne players have risen

shadow holly
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in what world is that bloodborne PepeLa

stiff elm
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Anyone got the stream link?

feral pollen
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this looks more like van hellsing to me

stiff elm
shadow holly
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Epitaph skin

stiff elm
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WANSHI? HE’S A VAMPIRE HUNTER?

thorn creek
stiff elm
shadow holly
stiff elm
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Does he have a skin yet

thorn creek
stiff elm
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Ic

deft apex
stiff elm
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Wb for lucia

stiff elm
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bruh what

thorn creek
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Nanami: brilliance

stiff elm
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wait who said that they were kinda disappointed about the new lucia frame its actually so hype though

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Im looking at the pv and it actually looks hella sweet

stiff elm
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ignore changli I NEED THAT.

stiff elm
thorn creek
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I like her back with the sun design but her front looks bland imo, like the generic grey feathers coating that every construct have

raw kiln
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Yall think Ayla is worth hypertuning?

stiff elm
thorn creek
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Too whit and not enough of her usual red color

stiff elm
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luna oblivion already was too much stimulation

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and the combat was hard to see

quasi vale
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looks like she came out of Kill Bill or something like that AylaOh

thorn creek
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I'm not saying it's complete trash but just a bit lackluster compared to the previous ones

glass bay
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the midriff is peak

stiff elm
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bianca snow petals also really hurt my eyes in actual combat

thorn creek
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Every details counts is what I'm saying

glass bay
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u guys are blind

stiff elm
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honestly I feel like lucia and alpha's base design are pretty okayish, its like the other has what the other is missing lol

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CW needs better pants and the new lucia needs a coat

thorn creek
stiff elm
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you guys think that the new lucia getting a coat would fix that "bland" problem?

thorn creek
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But clothing wise, bland

stiff elm
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like a coat similar to CW

thorn creek
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That was my initial hope to see when I first saw her

stiff elm
quasi vale
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did Dawn frame work properly in the story at some point? I've seen it twice and it somehow had issues both times lulw

stiff elm
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give her like the fricking kim dokja jacket from orv lol

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would be pretty sweet if she had a longcoat imo

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I feel like it would solve all the qualms

thorn creek
stiff elm
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im just saying

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a longcoat can go a long way, get it? lon- ok ill shut up

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but honestly a regular jacket like the one plume has could work in my opinion too

thorn creek
stiff elm
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I dont see an issue with ir generally but if you're saying that the areas around her arms are kinda like

thorn creek
quasi vale
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~~ploom design was peak, with or without jacket ~~

stiff elm
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see how feral is just shoulder-less and just has sleeves?

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wouldn't it work if the new lucia had that too?

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would that appease you?

thorn creek
stiff elm
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ditch shoulder clothing fr

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like throwback to dawn, she has no shoulder covering

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anyways I dont see anything wrong with the new lucia frame, its probably just from your guys end

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compared to CW, which I use her stock outfit because the uneven leg covering really pissed me to god.

thorn creek
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My main problem is that the front looks too bland with no uniqueness to represent lucia herself

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Feral shoots out the vibes of being cute and a monster in herself

stiff elm
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Lucia is always topless in some shape or form

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Kinda funny lol

thorn creek
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CW's design is representative of the unstable amount of punishing virus she's withholding

stiff elm
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Well maybe theres something symbolic with lucia being bland at front of her frame

thorn creek
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Yeah Lucia herself doesn't come out with much

shadow holly
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CW design representative of her being sht pls delete alpha from the game ya

thorn creek
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But like I said, if she had elements of a phoenix in her design. Actually 10/10 without complaints

stiff elm
shadow holly
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use ionization team smh

stiff elm
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Huh?

shadow holly
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new Lucia Daren feral

stiff elm
shadow holly
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altho it wouldn't work in lightning ppc

thorn creek
stiff elm
shadow holly
deft apex
thorn creek
deft apex
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Not lightning

shadow holly
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on base she's fire

shadow holly
deft apex
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Thank you kind sir
<@&595893856554319873>

hollow steppe
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I heard CW is getting a leap in cn, is this true?

shadow holly
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her lightning is all from ionization

stiff elm
deft apex
shadow holly
stiff elm
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Also if new lucia is 80% fire is she better or worse than hyperreal

hollow steppe
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Oh demmm

stiff elm
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Would make me feel better about skipping him fr fr

hasty spear
thorn creek
hollow steppe
hollow steppe
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Sht's slowly turning into twitter

stiff elm
thorn creek
shadow holly
stiff elm
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1~2 years to regret the decision yayy

stiff elm
shadow holly
quasi vale
stiff elm
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Powercrept or just trash

hollow steppe
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||Teneb new frame or leap when? RosettaScream

stiff elm
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Im pulling empyrea so im still not gonna have daren

quasi vale
stiff elm
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Ah well im gonna give up on ionization

thorn creek
stiff elm
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Unless theres an ionization wz..

shadow holly
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there is

stiff elm
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If not ill just ignore ionization altoge- fu

shadow holly
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new lightning WZ partly buffs lightning partly ionization

stiff elm
shadow holly
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and Lucia scores miles better than cw

thorn creek
shadow holly
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hard to explain but this is the gist of it
kinda lightning but not exactly

woven haven
shadow holly
woven haven
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This is the hardest ever team to substitute

shadow holly
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without Daren it doesn't work
because she is what enables ionization properly

woven haven
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because no scire it doesn’t work

stiff elm
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Ah so basically a lightning wz that needs other affixes

quasi vale
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put new lucia in the water and she can purify it

woven haven
stiff elm
woven haven
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Empy isn’t

deft apex
woven haven
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that much more crucial to fire

shadow holly
stiff elm
woven haven
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If you have sss kaleido that can sub off Empy in void anyways mostly

deft apex
thorn creek
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I'm guessing Ionization is a way for Kuro to make old frames usable in the future?

stiff elm
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Luna selector is so clutch

shadow holly
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it's only one of the many affixes

stiff elm
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Ill get scire there

woven haven
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affixes are just meant to throw older units who don’t get affixes further into a ditch

shadow holly
stiff elm
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But for lamia patch, it has to be empy, im suffering without an S fire unit

woven haven
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only the speshal few who are lucky to get leaps now

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will get affixes

stiff elm
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Speaking of leap

woven haven
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its just like timestop being the whole new gen

stiff elm
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Balter leap, what it do?

shadow holly
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watch CW get burn affix AINTNOWAY

woven haven
shadow holly
woven haven
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balter has a mode switch that converts most of her dmg from phys to slash damage

quasi vale
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even less fun allowed for new players in the future if they don't update selectors WorryCommandant

stiff elm
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Mm so leaps are for ionization and not character buffing to make them relevant now?

woven haven
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activating that mode switch completely destroys her phys dmg output

thorn creek
woven haven
stiff elm
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Ah

woven haven
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slash is physical

stiff elm
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Ok im fricking confused aaaaaaaaa

shadow holly
woven haven
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Ko made this for people to understand

shadow holly
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it's a lot but there's enough time to take it in slowly cuz a lot of time

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not so fun for CN

woven haven
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read all that to understand pls

stiff elm
quasi vale
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it will happen in more than a year, delegate the problem to the future you EvilLiv

shadow holly
thorn creek
shadow holly
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I tried to explain ionization earlier with what I know but this is basically that but better and in a better form

thorn creek
quasi vale
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mental disorder AlphaPeek

woven haven
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The gist of it is
character elements won’t necessarily be the same as their affix element

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so you can’t willy nilly skip units cuz now we have more “support” units beyond just tank/amp

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Daren is now the entire sole enabler of ionization team

stiff elm
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Everyone after new Lucia?

woven haven
stiff elm
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Dude…

ripe heath
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scire got a leap

woven haven
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Disorder: Teddy, Luna
Glaciation: Wanshi
Slash: Hanying, Balter
Burn: Bridget
Ionization: Scire, Lucia

woven haven
stiff elm
thorn creek
woven haven
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no they retroactively make the unit affix compatible

woven haven
thorn creek
brisk temple
shadow holly
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ripbozo CW won't be missed

woven haven
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you can't use lucia on lightning content anyways

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cuz she doesn't benefit

glass bay
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aetherlao

woven haven
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only ion buff content

glass bay
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how cooked are f2p now

shadow holly
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yea I just wanted to ask about this cuz she doesn't benefit from lightning weak bosses

stiff elm
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So im assuming affixes are treated as like another attribute or just enables other attributes to do damage in other warzones

shadow holly
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but maybe she can stomp lightning bosses faster than cw anyway?

woven haven
stiff elm
thorn creek
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So CW is still the best for attacking lighting weak bosses in ppc but Lucia tops in lighting wz correct?

woven haven
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at that point

stiff elm
shadow holly
woven haven
# thorn creek Holy damn wth

this is lucia ult3
— Deals 3500% Fire DMG.
— During Electric Storm state, Deals 5000% Ionization DMG instead of Fire DMG.

stiff elm
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Oh wow okay im starting to get it

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No wonder its a pain to explain

woven haven
stiff elm
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But you wont use ionization in pure lightning wz

woven haven
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only character sided buffs work like that

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environment/enemy res treats them differently

stiff elm
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Mhm cool, its actually a pretty dope mechanic ngl

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I like how they boosted scire’s value this way too

thorn creek
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Ok so affix are huge base power but limited buffs received

woven haven
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no its not its just mechanic bloat and really unnecessary tbh

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cuz now affix implementation takes up majority of the new leap texts

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the old kits barely get any improvement from it

stuck sphinx
shadow holly
stiff elm
stuck sphinx
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Kuro needs to find a new way to make the kit even longer

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So they did affix

stiff elm
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Plus feral doesnt have a leap yet so her affix could be pretty sweet

woven haven
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her affix is more than likely just going to be ion

quasi vale
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feral skippers EvilLiv

thorn creek
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Does that make Lucia top CW in bosses as well? Let's say for lighting weak bosses

woven haven
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you can't use more than 1 affix in a comp anyways

shadow holly
shadow holly
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wait wrong img

woven haven
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you will manually deactivate all but one affix if you have multiple affix characters in a comp

stiff elm
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Sometimes i forget its a mobile game

stuck sphinx
shadow holly
stiff elm
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ITS A MOBILE GAME ITS NOT THAT COMPLICATED

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The mobile game:

thorn creek
woven haven
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you are basically offelementing

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it reallllly depends

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at that point u might as well bring fire team itself instead of ion to light weak bosses

thorn creek
woven haven
stiff elm
woven haven
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slash affix

shadow holly
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slash

stuck sphinx
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I love edb on her ult1

quasi vale
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lucia solo everything LivWow

stiff elm
stuck sphinx
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ult balter

velvet hedgeBOT
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Bianca • Stigmata
<:S_:1005718220663165050> <:attacker:1003700210821771336> <:physical:1003687697044492380> Skills (Lvl. 18)

** Signature - Blade Carved Abyss **
Bright Candle — Staff Form + 60 Energy + tap Signature Move
Releases a bright candle that damages enemies within range, triggering Lag Calculation, and enters Sword Form. Sword Form prevents orbs from being pinged and converts Afterglow obtained from Bianca’s core passive to Afterglow Enhancement. During Sword Form, basic attacks, Lampshade Dance, and Afterglow Sword Shadows will accumulate stacks of Scarred Will upon dealing DMG. Gain Super Armor during Sword Form.
Deals 300% Physical DMG to nearby enemies.
Each point of Afterglow is converted to 0.5s of Afterglow Enhancement.
__Luminous Abyss — Sword Form + 60 Energy + tap Signature Move __
Consume Energy and all stacks of Scarred Will to unleash Luminous Abyss, triggering Lag Calculation. Each stack of Scarred Will increases the Base DMG of Luminous Abyss.

Deals 600% Physical DMG.
Each stack of Scarred Will increases the base DMG of Luminous Abyss by 6%.
Scarred Will can be stacked up to 40 times.

woven haven
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and hanying is a major slash buffer so

stuck sphinx
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300% damage DumbDawn

stiff elm
woven haven
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if you don't have hanying slash balter falls way behind even before considering def/res shred diff

stuck sphinx
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qte lotus

velvet hedgeBOT
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Lucia • Lotus
<:B_:1005718218586988624> <:attacker:1003700210821771336> <:physical:1003687697044492380> Skills (Lvl. 18)

**qte QTE - Lotus Quick Slash **
Lucia strikes at enemies with her Dual Blades, dealing 1110% Physical DMG in total.

stuck sphinx
thorn creek
woven haven
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no S rank hanying

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that Hanying has a teamwide buff to slash affix

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allowing you to generate more slash procs over the rotation

thorn creek
woven haven
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Teddy

thorn creek
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wth? I just learned today

shadow holly
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teddy is the first one she had the void affix on her yeah

thorn creek
shadow holly
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ye

woven haven
# stiff elm Oh well, what affix did she get

also if we ignore the part of her kit where she gets the new slash dps mode

the entirety of balter leap is this

  • up to 75% EDB on 1st Ult for doing Core / 3-pings during matrix (1st Ult barely does damage)
    10% Crit DMG bonus while you have sword gauge in ult
    Trigger QTEs on hold dodge (the only QoL in the leap)
    Moving joystick during sword waves summons a Afterimage that does 80% ATK DMG
    +20% base DMG bonus for orbs
jovial yoke
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How do I spend my extra button batteries when I'm done with the slot machine?

split hound
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Hey, sorry, I left the game as soon as I started, so I forgot everything the orbs mean, so, how can I read it again?

woven haven
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the rest is just the funky new beyblade balter

woven haven
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that is actually kinda jank to use

jovial yoke
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Then why does it say i can spend them?

shadow holly
stiff elm
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Or mid at best

shadow holly
woven haven
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its like barely any dmg increase

jovial yoke
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Yes

split hound
shadow holly
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then yeah you don't have anything to do with them

woven haven
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the point is that they overcompensated with balter's slash affix stuff that the rest of the leap kit got neglected

thorn creek
remote pier
woven haven
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and this comes with a false UI thing to make her look deceivingly better

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cuz now u can see 150 stacks on balter bar post leap

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but that's not for her physical dmg no no no

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that's for the slash mode only

shadow holly
woven haven
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those 150 stacks don't buff her ult2 anymore

shadow holly
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btw could I see the animation for her slash mode ult

thorn creek
woven haven
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its bloody misleading UI that makes people think balter now has 150 stack cap

woven haven
shadow holly
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ohhmmSleeper

woven haven
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just extra hit of slash dmg that consumes slash points to boost its dmg and then consumes the new stacks to further boost

quasi vale
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bruh moment, kuro misinfoing in their own game

shadow holly
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whateva Hanying main dps anyway

thorn creek
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So is her sword form now just slash dmg?

woven haven
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each ult stack is 6% -> 7.5% base dmg bonus

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*for the leap

woven haven
shadow holly
woven haven
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it basically changes balter to another third mode entirely

thorn creek
woven haven
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you can still do old rotation and she's doing all physical dmg

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but if you do the new leap rotation its now 80% slash 20% phys

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smth along that ratio

thorn creek
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Affix makes it feel like the elements don't matter anymore

shadow holly
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just treat it as a new element and that's it

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most units will have affixes of their own element anyway
Lucia Daren is just some funky stuff going on ig

stiff elm
woven haven
# shadow holly <:PepeLa:1149088178922336326>

oh btw it gets worse
basically
Phys Balter stacks are capped at 99 but each stack gives 6% base dmg bonus to ult 2
Slash Balter stacks are capped at 150 but each stack gives... 1.2% base dmg bonus to the Slash proc attacks and... 3.5% base dmg bonus to the slash proc on ult
so it looks like higher number but the % per stack is decreased anyways Kek

quasi vale
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I hope this discrepancy doens't screw daren later when maybe everyone else has the right affix for their element

stuck sphinx
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That’s like nothing DumbDawn

quasi vale
stiff elm
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the FX on the new lucia frame are super clean ngl, easy to see around but is flashy too

shadow holly
woven haven
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the base mult of ult 2 balter is 600%
slash one deviates between 450-900% based on the number of slash points consumed (up to 10)
Slash points are generated when slash procs are activated, so you need to upkeep 10 slash procs per team cycle
but only Hanying and Balter can trigger the procs
and Hanying SS3 speeds up the generation of the procs

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conclusion: roll Hanying SSS

shadow holly
feral pollen
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alisa leap when so she can get slash affix lulw

shadow holly
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surely I can get 3s anything other than free units

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but oh well it's not CN 3s is not baseline invest

woven haven
stiff elm
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aalso is that what I think it is

woven haven
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because how ion works makes it kinda... different

thorn creek
stiff elm
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style meter? .o.

shadow holly
stiff elm
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dmc/mgr:r collab when

shadow holly
stuck sphinx
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cw already exists

thorn creek
stiff elm
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guys I got a question, what the..?

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my friend sent me this image earlier

shadow holly
deft apex
stiff elm
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those are two whole different weapon selectors man.

woven haven
# quasi vale I hope this discrepancy doens't screw daren later when maybe everyone else has t...

TLDR Ion works like this
certain skills generate electric points up to 1000
certain core passives can trigger Electric Storm mode at max point (lasts for 10s, does not end when switching)

so the thing about Lucia ion is
she is absolutely GARBAGE at generating points or triggering Storm mode herself

conveniently daren can do it quickly in like under 7s and she swaps off immediately after triggering Storm mode so Lucia can have the full 10s of DPS uptime to herself

so unless they leap/release a new ion unit who can instantly trigger the mode and end their rotation, scire is probably going to remain relevant for a while

stuck sphinx
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Looks like a free usb

remote pier
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6* selector pack

stiff elm
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which one is paid I know they aren't giving two for free

shadow holly
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btw mint we get a free Balter copy on that patch

stuck sphinx
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Why do they always make weapons selector packs for old weapons

remote pier
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first one is

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second one is use red cards

woven haven
thorn creek
stuck sphinx
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Like who is gonna brick themself for a patch to get the weapon

feral pollen
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bro daren literally increases in value day by day lmao

glass bay
thorn creek
stiff elm
feral pollen
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that gray raven radio video did not age well lulw

shadow holly
quasi vale
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daren stonks 📈

remote pier
# stiff elm ?

It's similar to what we had before; use the red cards (to roll sig) to get that crap

stiff elm
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also random question but do i buy titanfall 2 while its on sale

deft apex
thorn creek
stiff elm
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6 dolars

thorn creek
remote pier
glass bay
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Witcher 3 is 3 dollars btw

deft apex
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Pak selectors

glass bay
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Really nice

deft apex
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All paid LivCry

remote pier
stuck sphinx
grand jay
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Do you think CW will end up being an Ion character

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I feel like she'll most likely end up becoming one

thorn creek
thorn creek
stuck sphinx
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Surely there’s a selector for Lucia sig on Lucia patch

remote pier
stuck sphinx
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And not like 2 patches later

stiff elm
boreal delta
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hy guys what element is soaring beyond use?

feral pollen
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since lucia got lightning based affix it's only natural cw will get fire related one EvilLiv

woven haven
# feral pollen that gray raven radio video did not age well <:lulw:842384743269924925>

Daren comeback arc:
Main DPS of Dark pre-Lamia (expensive but the gap is unreal)
Lamia really likes swapping and SS3/SSS facilitate that even more (high rank gap stretches further but just having Daren SS3 is enough)
SS3 field now timestoppable
Teneb nerfed by Memory Rework of Bathlon to the ground, meanwhile reworked Bathlon is now uncontested BiS harmo 4pc for SS3 Daren heat field
Daren leap speeds up her rotation somewhat, makes her cheaper and affordable for previously non SS3 people (skippers still dead needing to find the first copy somewhere cuz they spent that BC on a gacha skin)
Affixes cause Daren to be meta tank for both dark and ion

boy oh boy "skip Daren" aged so poorly

stiff elm
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you mean like that mini gacha that needs red cards?

woven haven
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she's going to be bloody burn affix or smth

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or inb4 no affix just sad cw times

feral pollen
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you know what'd be funnier? DARK related affix on cw EvilLiv EvilLiv

grand jay
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Imagine she's freeze lmao

shadow holly
remote pier
grand jay
shadow holly
woven haven
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either way the announcement of CW leap is just them trying to sell the gacha skin

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"no we promise its not a retirement skin"

shadow holly
grand jay
woven haven
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"we won't make cw useless trust us" (hiding new Lightning Attacker Liv behind their back)

shadow holly
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she doesn't deserve anything more than a retirement skin

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pls delete her from the game

remote pier
grand jay
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It's a such a good skin so I forgive them

shadow holly
feral pollen
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if they released new light attacker benching cw that'd be comedy of century given capybara exists and is still relevant

woven haven
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CW is like that kid who peaked at HS but still desperately trying to convince people she's cool for smoking in college

grand jay
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Yesh

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But the gacha skin...

shadow holly
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b-but the Vergil daughter can't be weak DumbDawn

grand jay
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It's so good

grand jay
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You have to understand

shadow holly
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any time I hear anything related to alpha one of my braincells dies

grand jay
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Hey at least I get a free SSS Balter and Alpha

shadow holly
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unless it's the news of her replacement

woven haven
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at least ion being a thing means it will fight with lightning content to show up anyways

zenith thorn
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cw is finally the weakest attacker

my day is now joyous

quasi vale
woven haven
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iirc on beta ion weathers lucia's already outscoring SSS3~ levels CW (with SSS+ supports) at SS0 (with SSS supports)

remote pier
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okay, but when are they going to replace midcia

woven haven
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despite lightning having larger buff

shadow holly
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yea in wz Lucia better and that's good

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time to delete CW from PPC too

zenith thorn
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need to bench cw ASAP

grand jay
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Imagine they make CW leap the best leap ever

shadow holly
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💀

grand jay
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Do you know how funny that would be

zenith thorn
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i will literally quit the game and ask for full refund

thorn creek
remote pier
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The current PGR team isn't capable

zenith thorn
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pgr team too understaffed
all went to wuwa

woven haven
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i highly doubt it

feral pollen
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what's even cw's biggest weakness that leap could fix apart from lack of affix and no timestop on slam

zenith thorn
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add timestop on slam to spite on lee fans

woven haven
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reminder this is ice affix description alone
they have to copy paste this on EVERY new unit who gets this affix

grand jay
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Make her ult longer teehee

thorn creek
woven haven
#

that's just not fun

shadow holly
zenith thorn
remote pier
#

trslao likes it schlong LivWow

quasi vale
#

the'll add a link to external pdfs at some point

feral pollen
#

where's the daren star wars meme at

thorn creek
woven haven
#

lucia kit has 5 paragraphs for ult

#

5 paragraphs for blue orb

#

4 paragraphs for basic attack

grand jay
#

How many modes does she have lmao

zenith thorn
#

peak kuro really

woven haven
#

5 paragraphs for core passive

thorn creek
remote pier
#

PGR leadership be like write a dissertation for each skill challenge

thorn creek
#

Reading guides only player

woven haven
#

if you want to count every "mode" individually
she has 5

stuck sphinx
glass bay
#

Surely u don't think it's a good idea when u release this

thorn creek
#

At least they buffed bp currency so S shards are easier to buy

woven haven
#

Lucia has:
Normal Mode (default)
Aerial Mode (tap ult to jump, some skills also send her up, skills work differently in air and on ground)
Infernobolt Mode (Hold Ult)
Levitation Mode (Tap Ult in Infernobolt Mode)
Electric Storm Mode (triggered by Affix, independent on other modes). While Storm is active, change 90% of her kit from Fire DMG to Ionization DMG multipliers

shadow holly
#

yea with good enough wz placements and event rewards prob can buy 2x20 a month without too much trouble

thorn creek
shadow holly
feral pollen
#

it's 2030, kuro just teased character that has 27 different stances and can deal 4 different damage types depending on combination of keys pressed

shadow holly
grand jay
#

@woven haven do you have any ion clears to share btw

shadow holly
#

dq op

grand jay
#

I kinda wanna see what the rot is like

woven sable
shadow holly
thorn creek
shadow holly
stuck sphinx
#

:quicker:

thorn creek
glass bay
#

Truly in a dilemma

#

Both scire and balter good.... Who to ss3....

dapper skiff
#

Ss3 balter good?

woven haven
#

you get ss3 balter for free

#

just wait till lucia patch

thorn creek
#

I'd say pull other gen 2 attackers first

stuck sphinx
#

Why pull when you can get for free

shadow holly
#

real

torn walrus
#

Skip EvilLiv

hollow steppe
#

Why pull if you just impregnate her

torn walrus
shadow holly
#

tho I still prob get ss3 on Lamia for actually passable phys scores

shadow holly
hollow steppe
#

Oh wait we talking about gacha? my bad

glass bay
#

Isn't scire free faster

#

Like 2 patches earlier in shop

hollow steppe
#

Btw does Norman in cn rn have boss rotations?

stuck sphinx
#

Who has the ex07 chart

glass bay
#

Wtf is ex7

dapper skiff
#

Ex7

glass bay
stuck sphinx
#

The one after 6

dapper skiff
hollow steppe
#

Oh they added ex07? KareninaExplosive

glass bay
#

WTF

stuck sphinx
#

Norman is just onetap rn

glass bay
#

F2p truly no rights

shadow holly
stiff elm
shadow holly
#

cloud Island is ex05 now

stiff elm
shadow holly
stuck sphinx
hollow steppe
#

I hope they add boss rotations in norman though, it's getting very chore-like

glass bay
#

But the difficulty spikes right

thorn creek
stiff elm
#

are there any rewards to this or is it just for fun

hollow steppe
#

I had to use gen1 units just to feel something from it

shadow holly
thorn creek
stiff elm
shadow holly
thorn creek
stuck sphinx
#

F2P friendly they said

#

Just have a year of suffering first

stiff elm
thorn creek
glass bay
#

In a way

#

It's nice that they make more challenging stuff tho

stuck sphinx
#

They increased the rewards so I’m not complaining

shadow holly
# stuck sphinx Just have a year of suffering first

tbf in any gacha you need a good amount of time to catch up properly
I view Arknights as very friendly for example, and you can start full clearing events pretty fast with borrowing units and guides, but to become comfortable with that using your own roster, like a year sounds right if you're not full metaslaving. less if you're good at the game

stuck sphinx
#

From fresh acc EvilLiv

shadow holly
#

what how

thorn creek
stuck sphinx
#

They spent like the whole time exploring

thorn creek
#

So u can still enjoy everything

stiff elm
stiff elm
#

all the handholding and "deploy melantha here" "activate skill now"

glass bay
#

Tbh

#

I think echo picking is f2p friendly

stuck sphinx
shadow holly
stuck sphinx
#

Im too lazy for echo picking DumbDawn

stiff elm
#

im too lazy for wuwa

#

game is pretty trash, story failed me after technical test and got worse after cbt 2

#

and crownless no longer talks, like seriously?

glass bay
#

Most of the time I echo pick when lifting tbh

#

I do it in between sets

shadow holly
stiff elm
#

and I was thinking of returning when changli drops because changli seems awesome, right? BUT THEN PGR GOES "OH CHECK OUT LUCIA'S NEW FRAME'S KIT"

#

and its just changli but on steroids

#

probably has better sfx too.

shadow holly
#

but why would you return when she drops when you won't have time to save currency

stiff elm
#

I got yinlin early so I have enough to pull changli

shadow holly
#

even with 50/50 loss?

stiff elm
#

so my pulls for yinlin are now for changli, comical.

stiff elm
#

so yeah, free encore pot I can use with changli

#

right this isn't arknights.

#

uhh whats it called again?

quasi vale
#

I'm subbed to the 60/70 soft pity

stiff elm
#

"building pity"

#

I like how theres no hard pity in wuwa

#

reminds me of the early days of AK

#

gotta love that, right @shadow holly ?

shadow holly
#

there is tho
80

stiff elm
#

hard pity

shadow holly
#

it is hard pity

stiff elm
#

no? thats soft pity

shadow holly
#

maybe you have a different meaning of hard pity?

stiff elm
#

the character is always rate up, only garunteed 100% is 120

shadow holly
#

it's literally
if you don't get before 80
on pull 80 it's 5*
that's hard pity

stuck sphinx
stiff elm
#

hold on we're talking about wuwa?

shadow holly
stiff elm
#

ignore every thought I just said

woven haven
#

even if they were talking about AK you got the numbers very wrong

stiff elm
#

anyways, yeah changli im probably gonna come back to play when she drops

woven haven
#

lmao

stiff elm
woven haven
#

no

stiff elm
#

i forgot where the soft pity starts on ak

#

I only remember 120 is the hard pity

quasi vale
#

ak always had hard pity at 100, just never guaranteed

woven haven
#

soft pity starts 50, hard pity is 100

stiff elm
#

100?

woven haven
#

but guarantee is not that

quasi vale
#

2% base +2% on every pull after 50

woven haven
#

guarantee is 150-250 on solo rateups and 300 on limited banners

dapper skiff
#

Misinfo???

woven haven
#

for the rateup chara anyways

dapper skiff
stiff elm
#

weird I swore it was 120 for debut hard pity

shadow holly
#

in ak it's like
almost impossible to go beyond like 70-75

woven haven
#

if its dual rateup with no limited unit there's no guarantee at all

#

so you can offrate forever

shadow holly
#

cuz it's 40% to get 6* char per pull at 70 pulls

quasi vale
#

120 was like...collab guaranteed? can't remember

stiff elm
woven haven
stuck sphinx
woven haven
stiff elm
#

anyways anyways

shadow holly
#

yes
for all collabs
mh Collab same hard 120

stiff elm
#

is welfare also reruning with r6s pt.1 rerun?

shadow holly
#

second r6s too

stiff elm
#

ik r6s pt.2 will have welfare

#

but will the pt.1 rerun have the welfare

#

cuz like, im going for ash and ela

shadow holly
#

uh
I think so

stiff elm
#

btw.. who..?

woven haven
#

yata

shadow holly
#

it's more like
why wouldn't ut

#

I genuinely got baited into thinking it's S Sophia before I read EvilLiv

stiff elm
#

lilith, lucia new frame, nanami new frame, and uh

stiff elm
shadow holly
#

because I haven't done story really and idfk who yata is

stiff elm
#

anyways nanami's new frame is cute

#

lets just hope she doesn't get replaced in less than a year.. again

shadow holly
livid lark
#

if she's bad it's on kuro

#

cos they should have learnt from mistakes with nanamecha by now

stiff elm
#

her design is pretty lovely too

zenith thorn
#

im praying she outdps cw amen

woven haven
stuck sphinx
stiff elm
#

wait the new nanami is lightning?

zenith thorn
#

unknown lol

woven haven
#

that's just speculation

stiff elm
#

bruh don't we still need a void tank and amplifier

zenith thorn
#

could been fire amp for all we know

woven haven
#

i dunno where people got the idea of mecha replaced in under a year

stiff elm
zenith thorn
#

mech has 1.5 year dont she?

stiff elm
#

at least its not like entropy when he got like, replaced by alpha so fast

zenith thorn
#

maybe 1.75 ish

woven haven
#

in CN she was released as the CNY unit of 2022
Wata released like a few months before CNY 2024

stuck sphinx
#

It’s already been like a year since mech patch

zenith thorn
#

oh 2 years

livid lark
woven haven
#

about 1.75

stuck sphinx
#

Didn’t it start in may

zenith thorn
#

so hyperreal has shorter lifespan than mech

livid lark
#

real void units can come later

stuck sphinx
#

Now it’s almost July

woven haven
#

what luna does is convert all buffs/shred to All Elemental (physical stuff doesn't work)

stiff elm
#

she kinda looks like a mix of luminance whale skin + pulse wheels + rigor weapons

livid lark
#

oh alright

glass bay
#

Nanamech always cute

woven haven
#

everyone still does their OG element type of DMG

glass bay
#

Not just this frame

feral pollen
#

either void or light tank

woven haven
#

and yes that means wata/empy on void WZ inherently do less dmg

#

because they aren't dealing void they're dealing fire

stuck sphinx
woven haven
#

on top of not having bonus shieldbreak that luna has

zenith thorn
stiff elm
#

hyperreal and starfarer were mid from the beginning weren't they

livid lark
#

is there damage reduction with the conversion or is the multipliers just not there because they dont deal void damage?

woven haven
#

Hyperreal was fairly balanced on release

#

then CW beta happened and she got buffed a lot esp on SSS

#

and then the powercreep went up and up till hyper couldn't keep up with numbers

stiff elm
livid lark
#

ahh ok

woven haven
#

void WZ has a lower off element penalty but its still there

livid lark
#

makes sense

velvet hedgeBOT
#

Character not found.

feral pollen
#

what makes you think hyper will get leap when new lucia exists

stuck sphinx
woven haven
#

don't want to spoil your parade but

livid lark
#

so luna is the carry and the other 2 are just filler

stuck sphinx
dapper skiff
#

Yatta

stiff elm
stuck sphinx
#

At best DumbDawn

woven haven
#

every leap since garnet has only been for existing meta units

#

hyper's gone

livid lark
feral pollen
#

good i didn't invest past ss3 sig lulw

stuck sphinx
#

When will rose be gone from ppc

woven haven
#

even before lucia wata stole everything

deft apex
#

I like hyper's braindead gameplay, hopefully luna is as braindead as hyper

livid lark
#

so is it still worth getting ss3 hyper before lucia drops?

feral pollen
#

luna has autoplay button

deft apex
#

Nice

stuck sphinx
#

Worth if whel

woven haven
#

luna is easy to learn

#

she is hell to optimize

deft apex
#

Its joever

woven haven
#

you have to dodge cancel and weave basic attacks for optimal rotations

stuck sphinx
#

Sounds like old Luna

woven haven
#

and sometimes you even have to decide between switching or going for 3rd ult rot

deft apex
#

Whats the most braindead unit post hyper in your opinion?

glass bay
#

Isn't that good she's not braindead

livid lark
deft apex
glass bay
#

U like braindead?

deft apex
woven haven
#

super linear kit with only minor optimization changes
and her uptime gets killed post SSS hanying anyways so who cares lmao

stuck sphinx
#

Braindead good for skill issued players like me

deft apex
zenith thorn
glass bay
woven haven
#

but that's with SS3 Daren and like SS3/SSS Lamia rot

deft apex
#

Dang

stuck sphinx
#

That’s just basic human rights

#

Nobody wants to play poverty rot

deft apex
#

I have to think again after lee LivCry

woven haven
#

poverty rot is idk

#

i actually never bothered to try

#

solo is so hellish to bother with

shadow holly
#

how impactful is SS3 fish for PPC
I assume makes using 4bath harmo set easier?
but what about it otherwise

zenith thorn
#

im gonna have fun solo lamia

deft apex
zinc jungle
#

any day now

stuck sphinx
woven haven
#

swap lamia is super fast, able to do 2 full rots in amp passive
solo lamia is like basic attacking for energy and her BAs are SLOW
and this gives enemies time to walk off the map

livid lark
#

next 4 patches (not including brs) 😭

all necessary units

woven haven
#

💀

zenith thorn
#

will i be dead or will my bc will be dead

shadow holly
#

but 2 full rots is SS3 isn't it

zenith thorn
#

or my wallet

stuck sphinx
#

Pgr will be dead

shadow holly
#

SS0 is 1.5 I think?

livid lark
#

my wallet AlphaPeek

woven haven
deft apex
shadow holly
feral pollen
#

can't wait for brs HmmHypereyes gonna be fastest skip in my entire pgr career lulw

woven haven
#

Solo Qu is even worse cuz now you get staggered every 5s and you run out of orbs 3s in

stuck sphinx
#

Soon the NA 1% ppc pool will become as small as eu

woven haven
shadow holly
#

run 4cot on qu for super armor sauce

deft apex
#

I think ill hate qu gameplay man

#

Not even cause stairs

woven haven
stuck sphinx
#

Gotta weave for orbs I guess

livid lark
zenith thorn
#

b-but
solo op ? ! ? ! ? !

shadow holly
livid lark
#

ugh solo for 5 patches

woven haven
shadow holly
zenith thorn
#

solo lamia and solo qu for eternity
fun

woven haven
#

btw if you are missing any of the following

livid lark
shadow holly
#

these huge score qu solo runs made it look so easy from an observers perspective

woven haven
#

SSS Qu
SS Qu
Qu Weapon
DLT
you add one extra layer of difficulty to her orb rng btw

#

for each of these u are missing

stuck sphinx
#

No sig = no harmo

zenith thorn
woven haven
stuck sphinx
#

Alr bricked

zenith thorn
#

f2ps no right indeed

shadow holly
#

well the latter three are baseline for anyone who cares about their scores anyway

livid lark
#

ok the first 3 are ez for me to get

#

sss tho

shadow holly
#

just like Lamia sig + dlt

zenith thorn
#

just need to pray for offrate wallahi

woven haven
#

like i went straight to sss and i still felt like boiling myself alive after the first few runs

livid lark
shadow holly
woven haven
#

imagine base S 5*

topaz quiver
#

Does the weapon selector from top up milestone in qu patch already include hers

stuck sphinx
#

Ok so surely her gameplay will be so bad everyone will slack and then the bracket is super easy

topaz quiver
#

Oh no

stuck sphinx
#

Because globlul is full of slackers

woven haven
#

it just has a delay of 2 patches

topaz quiver
#

I see

woven haven
#

the new milestones for rc just have delayed addition to shop

feral pollen
#

delay of 2 patches makes it kind of useless

shadow holly
stuck sphinx
feral pollen
#

it's essentially extra emergency usb

woven haven
#

unless you have gaps in your roster anyways

#

Like cough no daren sig

livid lark
woven haven
#

You can smell the gacha skin stink from those people

livid lark
#

daren skippers in shambles

woven haven
#

they used black cards

stuck sphinx
#

What kind of person can top up enough for that milestone and not have sigs DumbDawn

woven haven
#

absolute tosspots

stuck sphinx
#

How much is it for the milestone

livid lark
#

found dead in a ditch

dapper skiff
#

Hoe sht is solo in general

feral pollen
#

i'm gonna use that top up selector for haicmama AlphaPeek

woven haven
#

i don’t know about the 5k rc one though

#

could be misremembering

shadow holly
stuck sphinx
#

That’s a ton of rc

topaz quiver
#

Wait i thought 328 was weapon WorryCommandant

woven haven
#

oh wait yeah 328 is wep

#

1k is pet selector

quartz dove
#

Whel milestone disgust

feral pollen
woven haven
#

then 5k is skin + wep skin selector i remember now

stuck sphinx
#

Ok I guess it’s for copers

quartz dove
woven haven
#

the skin selector was actually pretty cool

#

you can redeem any first sfx skins for units up to echo

#

as in like scire’s first sfx skin was the CNY bunny one so that was in selector

feral pollen
#

picks entrokek skin

woven haven
#

but plume’s would be the priestess one she got on launch

#

so it was a relatively mixed bag

quartz dove
#

I dont even have plume

woven haven
#

But u know what the best part about it was
no mech skin was in that selector

shadow holly
dapper skiff
woven haven
stuck sphinx
#

What mech skin lulw

dapper skiff
livid lark
#

lol mech

quartz dove
stuck sphinx
#

Does she still have 0 sfx skins

dapper skiff
#

What mech skin

woven haven
livid lark
#

i'll trash on mech until uncle drops

quartz dove
dapper skiff
#

Skipped ploom
Wadapak

livid lark
quartz dove
#

Life of f2p is not easy cant afford plume

livid lark
#

AND YOU BOUGHT THAT ACCOUNT

quartz dove
livid lark
#

WHEL

quartz dove
#

Kuro try to held pgr player before they jump ship to zzz

river nymph
quartz dove
river nymph
#

if anyone wants to go 💤 i say let them

dapper skiff
#

Honk
Mimimimimimi

#

Honk
Mimimimimimimi

stuck sphinx
river nymph
quartz dove
stuck sphinx
quartz dove
#

Honestly i have zero idea wtf is zzz about

zenith thorn
#

do you accept one more to 💤

quartz dove
#

Waow dalao harem

quartz dove
stuck sphinx
zenith thorn
dapper skiff
frozen creek
dapper skiff
#

Make me exhausted in 💤

zinc jungle
zenith thorn
#

dalao can take 4 and still win

#

my dalaoLivWow

zinc jungle
#

As long as you get consent before, sleep play is OK.

dapper skiff
#

That's why he's the dalao LivWow

deft apex
livid lark
shadow holly
#

or maybe im taking him sus

river nymph
glass bay
#

Wtf is this conv

zenith thorn
glass bay
#

Was alpha booba always so big

#

Did she get buffed in new skin

stiff elm
#

btw whats lucia and nanami's new frame named

#

ah nvm, sounds insane, oathblaze

dapper skiff
#

Bedeesem??

zenith thorn
stiff elm
#

pyroath or oathblaze

#

brug

deft apex
#

Pyroath is so dumb

stiff elm
zenith thorn
stiff elm
#

that sounds so ass

zenith thorn
#

they want to continue with the team of fire + oath

stiff elm
#

oathblaze works.

#

but wtf is pyroath

zenith thorn
#

so they decided to just change blaze into pyro
and mix them together

stiff elm
#

that sounds restarted asf

deft apex
#

Not like I'll call her either of those, hyperdawn much better

zenith thorn
stiff elm
#

nuh bro im not saying that, id say hyperdawn or dawn^2

#

actually was there a name vote?

#

if there was im gonna just say the best sounding one

#

its funny how kuro is still trying to milk crimson weave

#

they fr had to give her another skin (mid fr)

glass bay
#

Oathblaze was best

deft apex
#

Thing is, even if this is her retirement skin, we still have her leap up and coming

#

So its not just "6 months and gone" its more EvilLiv

glass bay
#

Garnet forever in meta too

deft apex
#

Dont worry nanami will replace her im feeling it

bronze citrus
#

What's wrong with the wiki?

glass bay
#

Eos

river nymph
#

works fine for me

glass bay
carmine reef
#

Do you guys wanna see what i made for dinner

carmine reef
#

I'll put it in offtopic

shadow holly
#

how nice offtopic is even talking about food already

carmine reef
#

All according to keikaku

opaque ridge
#

Wdym

#

Wz and ppc food too

#

Get cooking

shadow holly
#

holy altera already got palworld profile thingies
discord whel WhalePepe

glass bay
heavy venture
#

Is it fine to use a different elmental tank for the time being? Example in my ice team I dont have the Ice tank, so I was thinking of just using No. 21 for now

#

Oh I tagged on acident my bad

zenith thorn
#

yeah that works
no21 is the best option there

heavy venture
#

Aight thank u

#

Who should I get 5* weapon for this dark team? I think I can get enough for one

dapper skiff
#

Astral

#

Prioritize dps

river nymph
dapper skiff
#

But dps doesn't always have to be attackers fyi