📨・meta-help

[wispy igloo]

Explain all this S+ then

[river nymph]

s+ on cn is way cheaper than globlul

[small copper]

@pine slate what about other event, Standing next to the cursed wave

[tender island]

2 faced gamer

[grand jay]

It is

[grand jay]

I play 9game server so I save more for playing

[wispy igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902283502572150835.gif

[grand jay]

TRUEEEEEE

[tender island]

[deft apex]

omg please put selena in fire

[grand jay]

Watanabe Epitaph count your days

[wispy igloo]

Put alpha in fire

[grand jay]

Pulao fire tank about to creep him

Ik how ratchet this game is

[errant carbon]

will lucia save pgr again?

[grand jay]

Nah she's killing it

[tender island]

I skipped Lee and sure as hell glad lucia powercrept him

[opaque ridge]

no, lucia killed pgr

[grand jay]

She killed 2 teams in WZ

[opaque ridge]

changli saved wuwa

[grand jay]

In cold blood

[remote pier]

wait until they find out Lucia also kill CW

[wispy igloo]

No just did great filtering

[wispy igloo]

I want to see PGRTW reaction

[grand jay]

And she has the ugliest design ever lmao

Please release with a black and red skin

[wispy igloo]

When they learn about that

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-cat-walking-gray-cat-gif-14865986020845776272

[opaque ridge]

in all seriousness though, this patch makes me want to play less pgr

[wispy igloo]

[grand jay]

Lucia's gameplay looks cool

[remote pier]

what about PGR TW?

[grand jay]

But it actually sucks knowing how irrelevant Lee and Alpha will be soon

[icy thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dokkan-dokkan-battle-datruth-gif-25277990

[opaque ridge]

i'll see after the stream on the 29th

[small copper]

Why you guys always talking about chinese server

[wispy igloo]

They cried about lee replaced cus he man

[grand jay]

Assuming they make little change on release

[opaque ridge]

u wanna talk about global?

[river nymph]

no

[opaque ridge]

noctis has hot abs

[wispy igloo]

Cus CN is 1y ahead

And new beta is ongoin

[small copper]

Realy?

[wispy igloo]

[river nymph]

[remote pier]

A lot of people from other servers also did. Not TW exclusive.

[icy thorn]

why do gacha games do this...

[tender island]

Nah global is boring I have to wait till luna patch so

[grand jay]

Wanshi is so much fun though

[wispy igloo]

[grand jay]

Should have made his skin SFX idc

[opaque ridge]

yeah goddammit i'll never forgive the chinese

[errant carbon]

are we all heavily invested in cw?

[wispy igloo]

Not me

[grand jay]

I'm SS3 with 2 skins

At least she'll be good for PPC stull

[tender island]

Sss here as f2p

[grand jay]

Until Ionisation takes effect

[wispy igloo]

Mine is minimal invest SS with sig and pet

[remote pier]

Imagine investing in CW still 💀

[wispy igloo]

[opaque ridge]

who actually invested in mid weave

[errant carbon]

i thought cw was already replaced by luna in the "extreme" ppc lighting zone

[tender island]

I have her sig maxed and cub ss

[wispy igloo]

[grand jay]

Tbf it's been that way since release and her NY skin

[remote pier]

so are they going to release a SFX skin for Midcia?

[grand jay]

Ofc

[barren plank]

Its only been 3 patches 😭

[grand jay]

I KNOW

[remote pier]

Not even going to bother looking at the 4.5 stream

[errant carbon]

【［战双］3133空轻取鏖战雷区25s（无渡边）已经不用再战斗了姐姐】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Li421X7dU

This has been the norm in cn for few months now, lighting is the only element that gets cross-elemented

[grand jay]

Atp why not just make her a new element dps

I would be a lot less mad lmao

[river nymph]

good point

[errant carbon]

cw has been a clown and meme for quite a while in cn now

[grand jay]

Yeah

[wispy igloo]

I will for the Qol and rodmap

[errant carbon]

💔

[jade rain]

It would be if this were any other company

[grand jay]

She just doesn't have the team necessary to cook

[toxic rapids]

clown weave

[tender island]

[grand jay]

Praying her leap boots Lucia from Lightning WZ

[wispy igloo]

As a CW enjoyer in am sad

[opaque ridge]

lucia always had an affinity with fire though

[wispy igloo]

Ohh well it is what it is

[river nymph]

lotus best fire

[jade rain]

If cw had the team, she would still be a clown. Tank would most likely have more onfield than her

[remote pier]

they'll leap CW to give her slash affix

[tender island]

Damn it I ain't changing my cw to other dps even if it's new lucia

[grand jay]

Could have made the illusive Light element

[opaque ridge]

with her new fire frame, she can finally cook

[tender island]

[river nymph]

nah make her the first ice affix

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/499600447015747584.gif

[grand jay]

Ik Kuro could have made her that

[wispy igloo]

and dead

[remote pier]

Doesn't Wanshi already have ice affix?

[wispy igloo]

[remote pier]

Don't remember what it does though

[river nymph]

oh im not sure

[wispy igloo]

Huh i thought ice didnt have affix

[river nymph]

[wispy igloo]

Only fire void phy and light

[remote pier]

oh nvm then

[remote pier]

guess there's still room for them to replace Qu ig

[jade rain]

@woven haven lmao

[pine slate]

Both perma

[jade rain]

Deals damage based off stacks

[wispy igloo]

Well i will still use CW in that style mode

[opaque ridge]

actually wanshi does have affix

[grand jay]

Don't say that

[woven haven]

ice affix is wanshi's

[grand jay]

In front of my face

[woven haven]

its his off field shred

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/995509119865851996.gif

[wispy igloo]

[river nymph]

[tender island]

Basedge but I do like new lucia

[remote pier]

guess Qu is safe for a bit

[feral pollen]

dam aetherlao returned from abyss

[jade rain]

No

[remote pier]

he is prob going to be gone until next patch

[jade rain]

It's only for a day

[remote pier]

Limited time Aether

[shadow holly]

it does
Wanshi has affix

[grand jay]

Her skin better give her black and red

[icy thorn]

@everyone

[wispy igloo]

[jade rain]

Black and red is such a basic and generic combination

[wispy igloo]

Nooo another hacked

[grand jay]

ITS HER COLOURRRR

[wispy igloo]

What is this obsession with color

[grand jay]

You think of Lucia you think of what combo

[jade rain]

Nothing

[wispy igloo]

I don’t understand

[remote pier]

🏳️‍🌈

[grand jay]

TRUE

[wispy igloo]

2nd Best girl

[river nymph]

green

[barren plank]

Wall

[feral pollen]

someone bring me up to speed why new lucia kill cw

[wispy igloo]

Cus she better in WZ

[feral pollen]

but she's fire?

[grand jay]

Has Lightning Affix which Daren has

[opaque ridge]

because cw sucks?

[woven haven]

she's lightning fire dual dps

[grand jay]

And is a far superior dps

[wispy igloo]

Deez nuts?

[grand jay]

Do the math

[woven haven]

daren leap enables her to deal lightning dmg for 10s

[wispy igloo]

[woven haven]

and that lightning dmg is actually really good numbers

[opaque ridge]

so basically daren skippers be bozos

[woven haven]

daren value rises YET AGAIN

[river nymph]

always have been

[feral pollen]

time to sss my daren

[woven haven]

so current new lightning team is feral scire lucia

[grand jay]

God bless this patch

[wispy igloo]

Well not like i care alpha will have a new frame in few months

[woven haven]

and only one of them is labelled lightning 100%

[restive grove]

pls fund me my daren is sigless

[jade rain]

Lucia is 80% fire 20% lightning, has the ability to go into ion mode converting half of her kit into dealing ionization. Light wz has been changed to 30% lightning 20% ion

[feral pollen]

bro wtf are they cooking with wz

[wispy igloo]

Is this some or all weathers?

[jade rain]

#🌞・trophy-room not here

[opaque ridge]

[woven haven]

don't know if its rotating

[grand jay]

This applies to Lightning weather

[woven haven]

beta weathers are rigged

[grand jay]

Atm

But WZ reworks account for affixes

[woven haven]

so you can't really know if the old lightning weather still exists

[feral pollen]

so the affixes were basically meant to do away with mono type wzs

[woven haven]

rn in beta its slash weather and ion weather

[grand jay]

Sort of

[jade rain]

No glaciation or burn?

To be fair burn kind of sucks

[grand jay]

But you have Balter and Hanying which have Slash affix so that doesn't even matter

[woven haven]

not up in rotation yet if they exist

[wispy igloo]

So this is another HI3 all over again

[woven haven]

no

[grand jay]

Lightning is catching strays simply

[woven haven]

its still "mono" in the sense that lightning team is an outlier

[opaque ridge]

they changed wz weather again

[jade rain]

No

[grand jay]

Alpha and Vera eat your heart out

[wispy igloo]

Introduce affix make them there sperate element

[woven haven]

because scire leap and new lucia specifically have half their kit dedicated to lightning

[wispy igloo]

[woven haven]

and scire leap is necessary to enable lightning lucia

[tender island]

[feral pollen]

bruh the foresight to pull scire was insane

[jade rain]

This was planned out prior to daren leap

[opaque ridge]

nah

all planned for the next lightning tank

[grand jay]

Lightning tank and Alpha leap will save Lightning surely

[tender island]

[jade rain]

Stop trying to save alpha

She needs to go

[opaque ridge]

sure, but lee goes first

[grand jay]

Balter LITERALLY GOT A LEAP THIS PATCH

[opaque ridge]

oh wai-

[remote pier]

anything to sell idol skin

[jade rain]

Don't know how that has anything to do with alpha

Alpha sucks herself

Nothing to do with other characters

[grand jay]

Ermmmm maybe you could solve the problem by addressing her issues while also giving her an affix and gen 3 tank

[jade rain]

I'm saying we don't need to save her

[grand jay]

Balter technically sucked last patch too so

[jade rain]

I'm not asking how to save her

[feral pollen]

but someone explain why balter leap is so very mid, like very undercooked

[woven haven]

that's on paper only

[grand jay]

It's actually to sell Slash affix

[digital moat]

Surely kuro wont give up on cw just yet:clueless:

[woven haven]

because majority of the leap is to sell the new slash affix

[grand jay]

On paper it's consequential to Phys damage

[woven haven]

you can't exactly gauge how good that is since she gets all new multipliers and a different rotation entirely

[grand jay]

But she actually uses Slash affix noe

[feral pollen]

autoattacking for those 150 stacks will murder ur wz scores

[jade rain]

If your definition of balter being bad last patch then nothing changed even after her leap in terms of physical damage her value rose due to her being slash dps but her phys damage itself didn't benefit much from the leap

[woven haven]

the 150 stacks doesn't even work like the old 99

[feral pollen]

does she at least get super armor during aa?

[woven haven]

its not a cap increase its a different type of stack altogether

and you gain it by spamming the new move

[cerulean grotto]

Totally didn't pull cuz she's a bunny girl

[woven haven]

which is basically kind of a longer AA animation

[feral pollen]

.

[remote pier]

.

[woven haven]

doesn't say if she gets superarmour there

[feral pollen]

rip if no

[digital moat]

[jade rain]

Qu incident all over again?

[feral pollen]

imagine getting flinched by 10 dmg attack

[jade rain]

No superarmor on one of her important moves

[digital moat]

Getting sent to mars with this

[woven haven]

but outside of the new entirely different rotation balter now has

the actual buffs to the old kit are basically bad as hell

there is only one QoL effect and that's qte trigger on matrix

[feral pollen]

bruh i thought they'd move orb autosort to her kit with leap but no

still tied to mem set

[woven haven]

the rest are dumb buffs to orbs/core/ult1

and very minor

[last vigil]

Iirc her Sword Mode itself grants damage reduction

[woven haven]

so the entirety of the leap just revolves around the new slash mode

that you will spam anyways

and its mandatory cuz kuro is selling affixes

[digital moat]

75edb to ult1

[feral pollen]

dr does jack sh it if you gettin flinched out of ur most important move bro

[jade rain]

Base damage

[digital moat]

I know

[grand jay]

Watch Kuro add bosses that make you flinch even during iframes

[last vigil]

Yeah just checked and she gains Super Armor by default when on Sword Mode, so still gets applied to new AA stuff

[grand jay]

Basically RM but on roids

[feral pollen]

they already do that in new normald

[last vigil]

So it's not a Shukra problem rewind

[woven haven]

the way they intend u to use balter seems to be just
spamming the new move and not using swordwaves

[jade rain]

Well that's a good thing

[woven haven]

then ulting

that's the best way to maximise the slash dmg output

[last vigil]

Do you at least save time on that compared to actual swordwave combo?

[grand jay]

What's her mem set then now

[digital moat]

Is there a beta showcase of balter leap

[grand jay]

It has to be Charlotte still

[digital moat]

I want to see what she does

[jade rain]

Nothing changes, there aren't any slash-dedicated mem sets as of currently iirc

[grand jay]

Figures

They'll probably add more as time goes on

[last vigil]

Iirc she was running Darwin/Catherine as subsets last time?

[grand jay]

Yeah

[feral pollen]

idk this leap seems forced and not very well thought out

[last vigil]

Because Hanying is running Patton anyway

[grand jay]

Yes

[river nymph]

https://youtu.be/AENUdOpclls?si=tknzpv4c6KpKhLi7

[woven haven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Dz421B7Yh/?vd_source=e2332d0a5fe22a90044d3b2c42dc0e5b

[digital moat]

Thanks xenolao

[woven haven]

you can compare if you want there

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

okay that's not a good showcase

[last vigil]

I already said more than once that she did not need a Leap now, other units have higher priority than she does for Leap
But no, they undercooked once again.

[woven haven]

the intended showcase requires you to actually run hanying with her and do a swap rotation

"solo showcasing" the moveset is just bad on balter leap

[last vigil]

I'm going to take this just because this opens the possibility of an SSS+ Stigmata on my account without needing to whale lots.

But I am disappointed on the choices they made for her kit.

Does she at least gain anything new besides the new auto attack moves?

[digital moat]

She turns into a blender LMFAO

[feral pollen]

there were so many different things they coulda fixed with this leap but instead they added more clunkiness

[grand jay]

So ig you do phys ult then slash ult

What a strange leap

[feral pollen]

and if she gets no super armor during the new leap move it's gg

[river nymph]

ok my bad i guess

[grand jay]

But ig it's to sell Slash so 🤷‍♂️

[last vigil]

Two fumbled leaps in a row but this one apparently managed to be less of a fumble than the Daren leap

[last vigil]

Sword Mode has Super Armor by default...

[grand jay]

Nah Daren leap is actually just insane in context with this patch

[woven haven]

no i'm pretty sure that's because he doesn't have enough slash points on first rot to do the slash ult full dmg

so he defaults to phys rot to save points

[last vigil]

Also isn't the recent Physical advantage boss tailored to sell Slashing damage as well?

[woven haven]

Daren leap makes sense in context of new lucia

new lucia NEEDS daren leap to deal lightning dmg

so they're glued together

[last vigil]

So basically Bianca is the one who got the L here?

[woven haven]

not really

slash is greatly buffed by hanying's existence

so balter dealing slash is no problem when hanying poops out point gain like no tomorrow

[feral pollen]

so it seems kuro is starting to make dual element units with lucia and daren leap

[grand jay]

Essentially yeah

[last vigil]

So basically
It's good
But could be better if they didn't focus so much on selling Slashing affix?

[feral pollen]

wots next, light tank with dark affix?

[grand jay]

And in turn it's beginning to change how we look at WZ teams

[woven haven]

maybe(?)

[digital moat]

Fire amp with ice affix

[grand jay]

Maybe Lee could actually see use through a leap perhaps????

[digital moat]

Kurover

[last vigil]

Considering that now both fire AND ice can reach score cap on Warzone because of their lack of foresight
They better start tinkering with something else.

[woven haven]

there is no dark affix rn and fire affix is garbo so

[grand jay]

But he'd have to be Freeze I think

[feral pollen]

did you mean empy leap v2?

[woven haven]

and new lucia lightning team is scoring higher than CW is

[feral pollen]

[digital moat]

Ofc

[woven haven]

on the ion weather lightning wz at least

[last vigil]

Kuro really sucks at game balancing, man...

[woven haven]

that's just extremely funny

[jaunty beacon]

It's still d1 beta tho

[grand jay]

Lee leap with Freeze affix would actually save PGR

I jest

But it would be very funny if they actually played into that

[last vigil]

I doubt they will nerf her, and even if they do, the fact that people managed to pull that off on day one, without extensive testing, just shows that hitting score cap is inevitable as soon as they get more time to figure out more strats.

[digital moat]

Considering his class itd be super hard to just make him replace an attacker kuro would have to open up an entire new field for him to play in

[olive fossil]

hi dad

[jaunty beacon]

You don't even know if they'll touch wz or not 🤷‍♂️

[digital moat]

Hi son

[last vigil]

At this point the fact that PGR has such a narrow metagame is starting to become really annoying

[olive fossil]

[grand jay]

Honestly

Yeah this is getting a little tired

[olive fossil]

repetitive content needs new cool mechanics and gamemodes

[remote pier]

Just play who you like they said

[grand jay]

It's not even like they allow off eles since Slash team is basically Phys

[jaunty beacon]

Kuro don't want. They kill all the funny events

[olive fossil]

yep like the disco one

[grand jay]

Style mode is coming finally

Is it a weekly though?

[last vigil]

Most annoying fact is that Kuro keeps pushing intricate game design in character kits, but then forces all relevant game modes to be speed clear based so you NEED to skip every intricate aspect of the character playstyle to get better scores.

In my humble opinion, they're implementing the styling mode way too late.

[jaunty beacon]

I'll play wata and ayla to trigger a melt combo on Lilith

[grand jay]

Yeah but it's better late than never

Idk tbh I like doing parry clears with whoever

[digital moat]

Well most of current pgr global playerbase wont play long enough to see that mode

[opaque ridge]

global will EoS before wata

[grand jay]

Yeah they're all busy playing Wuwa tbh

[last vigil]

Idk man I think by the time Lucia patch comes
I'll just spend my vouchers on SSS+ Stigmata and then dip without rolling for Lucia.

[jaunty beacon]

The so-called styling mode is mostly a b.a spam. Boring af

[digital moat]

Im not sure they would return to do style mode either

[feral pollen]

and how valuable are ss3/sss/sig for new lucia? or rather are they massive qols/dmg multipliers

[wispy plank]

New one

And hello

[digital moat]

Just imagine what will wuwa evolve into in a year or so

[grand jay]

Yeah

[remote pier]

Jenshin 2?

[jaunty beacon]

Styling is good only for tiktokers

[last vigil]

I hope they will learn the lesson and do a more open metagame without turning everything into a DPS check

[olive fossil]

you underestimate me father.

[wispy plank]

Congrats? Getting SSS ?

[grand jay]

Ty 😊

[wispy plank]

He fun ?

[digital moat]

At this point im willing to solve sudoku in pgr

[wispy plank]

SSS one ?

[last vigil]

Btw I forgot to say this since I haven't been here in a while
But congrats for the SSS Wanshi pal

[grand jay]

Ty

He came early too

[wispy plank]

How much you need make that

Wow nice

[grand jay]

Literally only 648 RC

[shrewd vale]

dont think that kinda endgame exists in any gacha

[olive fossil]

[wispy plank]

'0') !?

[grand jay]

Then I bought the rest of the frags from PPC and Dorm

[river nymph]

the only context in which that is a positive statement

[wispy plank]

Whale !?

[feral pollen]

.

[grand jay]

And BP

[digital moat]

Ong

[grand jay]

Lmao

[digital moat]

Y- 💀

[wispy plank]

Oh nice

[grand jay]

Hang on lemme show my build

[wispy plank]

Wish I be like you

[grand jay]

I'm running him as main dps

[wispy plank]

Smhis sticker is cute

[jaunty beacon]

The character is not even released bro ...

[olive fossil]

only reason im your son 💀

[river nymph]

[wispy plank]

I accept 👀

[stuck sphinx]

Now you can pick 60 mints at once instead of one by one

[feral pollen]

it is on beta wdym

[wispy plank]

Wait next month

[jaunty beacon]

Beta is not released you clown

[digital moat]

The mints pick us instead

[wispy plank]

In 11

[river nymph]

wz but instead of mobs its waves of mint

[stuck sphinx]

Pick me

[last vigil]

Clearing endgame stuff(or at least doing so with respectable scores)with low rarity or older units is a rather common sight in other gachas though
PGR is one of the few where you get bodied on the scores if you play off meta

[grand jay]

Perfection

[feral pollen]

nvm i'll just rewatch rex's stream to see wot her ss3/sss passives do

[river nymph]

🪵

[jaunty beacon]

Buffon

[digital moat]

Dats crazy

[last vigil]

Who, Rex?

[grand jay]

Yeah actually

[shrewd vale]

my experience is hi3, pgr, nikke, blue archive, brave frontier, fire emblem heroes. they all want you to have the newest and greatest for the endgame

[grand jay]

It's been an issue since gen 2 actually

TLC is the biggest culprit

[last vigil]

Also they never took the effort of even trying to create character niches

Because every new S rank is just a straight upgrade to the previous one in the same role

So the older unit just sits there and grows moldy until you decide to take it out and flex it on Babel

[wispy plank]

Uhh can I ask ?

[feral pollen]

wdym, A ranks are ur niche characters

[wispy plank]

That memo what best for him

[shrewd vale]

character niches exist in these other gachas and the reason why they dont get used is because of literally the word niche

[grand jay]

His signature then 2 pc Darwin if you're running without harmonisation

[wispy plank]

Skill did he need ATK/ ctit

[raw swift]

especially HI3, because there is so much bias from the devs for the new S-ranks banners to sell,
like aech form of endgame becomes tailor-made for the new S-rank, also current best team there is all new S-ranks

[grand jay]

Otherwise 4pc Chen if you have Harmo

[grand jay]

Any atk works but red orb also works

Bottom reso needs to be ult

[shrewd vale]

this is just a problem with the gacha endgame in general and there isn't a real solution that generates the same amount of revenue as just standard power creep

[grand jay]

That's most of his damage

[last vigil]

Y'know what, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe my expectations about the game were messed up. Maybe I was wishing for something that doesn't exist. That was still fine, because the game was still entertaining for me(and will still be for a while in Global)
But now they are stepping into an area that no longer feels good for me

[wispy plank]

Ultimate skill

And how get the ultimate second one

[shrewd vale]

you can literally go from game to game and experience the exact same cycle

[wispy plank]

His play little tricky like hpyereal?

[grand jay]

Build up gauge by pinging orbs
Hold red orb or dodge
Hold basic attack
Ult

He needs to spin around to do the 2nd ult

[wispy plank]

0)-(

[shrewd vale]

year 1: content is difficult because units aren't good and skill is involved
year 2: mega meta unit comes out and changes the endgame
year 3+: repeat

[wispy plank]

My brain

[last vigil]

Looking at Arknights and Granblue, which are my other games, I would say that you are goddamn right
But for some reason I feel like I have more freedom in there because there's much in those games that I can do to succeed in my goals without being forced to use meta

[grand jay]

He's a bit harder to grasp at first but once you get the rotation down it's straightforward

[last vigil]

And I feel like PGR just doesn't give me that freedom of choice.

[wispy plank]

Oalah

[grand jay]

I haven't played with SS or SS3 since I SSSd him day 1

[shrewd vale]

the problem with pgr and these other 'high quality' 3d games is that characters take time and effort to make

so you can't have a pool of 100+ characters in like a year because they all require voice acting, animations, sfx, etc etc

[wispy plank]

Fast

[grand jay]

I've been waiting for him since his announcement so

[shrewd vale]

as opposed to like AK or FEH where characters are a chibi and numbers

[wispy plank]

Wait what SSS on your?

[wispy plank]

You saved them all

[grand jay]

Not even that

I spend lmao

[wispy plank]

Eh ?

[last vigil]

I wonder for how long I will need to save to have SSS+ Stigmata through vouchers(planning to have her at SSS by the end of the year anyway)

[grand jay]

Do you not see the skins on my screen shots??? 😭

[last vigil]

Guess it's a really long time

[grand jay]

That's one node every patch

At that point Balter might be out of meta

[wispy plank]

Ah Gomen!!

[last vigil]

I'm talking about if I start to save now(I have roughly 35k vouchers and planning to use some for free Alisa SS combined with skulls)

[wispy plank]

Imagine blank what best SFX for new wanshi in your dream

[jade rain]

SS and above has the same rotations

[wispy plank]

Lol

[last vigil]

By my maths I should have roughly 19 to 20k vouchers after this

[wispy plank]

Hi nnin

[grand jay]

Please put this man in a suit

With paper sfx I BEG KURO

[wispy plank]

Paper ???

[last vigil]

Paper SFX?

[wispy plank]

What ??? You mean???

[spiral merlin]

Regular office guy wanshi

[grand jay]

Like an office guy

[spiral merlin]

Like Larry from Pokémon

[wispy plank]

Help 🤣

[grand jay]

Lord knows how long I've been waiting for a suit skin in PGR

[last vigil]

He would kinda look like a mafia hitman since he would be shooting people on a suit

[jade rain]

swap > 3 ping > hold red > hold BA > tap red > hold BA > tap red > Dodge > hold BA > ult

[grand jay]

I need someone to put that sh*t on bro

[spiral merlin]

Even better

[last vigil]

I mean, magician Entropy exists but ehhhhh

[wispy plank]

@grand jay

[last vigil]

Could've been done better.

[grand jay]

NAH

[wispy plank]

You mean white day ??

[last vigil]

Yeah that was his White Day coating

[wispy plank]

Ohoo

[grand jay]

The pony tail is a little off putting

[wispy plank]

But 🥺

[last vigil]

Still really sad that Hyperreal never got any other SFX coating besides the diver one...which was weird.

[wispy plank]

And wait in Lucia Path

[last vigil]

At least he got one though, Nanamech got shafter before she ever got the chance to have a second coating

[wispy plank]

With google and duck

[last vigil]

If they add an Hyperlee coating on Lucia patch it will feel like a bad taste joke lmao

[deft apex]

4.5 stream saturday who do you guys think is coming?

[wispy plank]

Lamia path is awesome

Noan free coating/lee
Noan uhh ( forgot name )

[spiral merlin]

New alpha new lamia new luna new lee trust

[last vigil]

Another Vera maybe
Maybe also another Lee if they're feeling merciful
But at this point I'm not very hopeful

[wispy plank]

New noan hit me

[jade rain]

Vonnegut playable all of a sudden

Destroy all expectations

[wispy plank]

🆘

[spiral merlin]

Or ishmael please kuro

[wispy plank]

New noctis

[grand jay]

My guesses are new Nanami, Roland, Noan and a teaser

[wispy plank]

😂

[wispy plank]

Yee noan

I love the copy noan 😂

[spiral merlin]

New Roland is a good shout

Pretty likely

[grand jay]

We might actually see a couple males for once

They were teased in the lore after all

Gonna throw it out there BTW I think Lilith is gonna become playable at some point

[last vigil]

Lies, everyone knows that Kuro only releases one male S rank per year....

[wispy plank]

And need another member dark aegis

[last vigil]

Don't give me hope

[grand jay]

Oh yeah

Paloma is an easy A rank

Also Scarab frames playable perhaps?

[remote pier]

Even if they release more than one male S rank, they'll just axe one of the existing male s.t. only 2 males are meta

[last vigil]

How many A rank frames we get per half anni teaser?

We usually get like 3-4 every year or so?

[wispy plank]

We have teddy bear and Bridget

[last vigil]

Last year we had Hanying, Noctis, BRS and Teddy(think that Teddy counts towards last year)

[wispy plank]

Bridget ???

[last vigil]

Bridget was released this year though

[spiral merlin]

Bridget wasn’t teased

[wispy plank]

Oh my bad

[spiral merlin]

She got shadow dropped

[last vigil]

Yeah Bridget was unexpected

But it was a good surprise all things considered.

[quasi vale]

bridget gonna slide into 2025 with luna

[wispy plank]

When Livestreaming 4.5

Same with summer one ??

[grand jay]

29th

[wispy plank]

Ok

Infrom me want we get ww

[barren plank]

When u harmo mems to wep, i assume you need 2 of the same mem to 2pc/4pc?

[sage kiln]

For harmo, you buy separate harmo specific 2pc memories using AE-5 mats

[wispy plank]

2pc/4pc

[icy thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944709788569309214/1158164634856067172/SaveInsta.App_-_3199691643376289457_12410162039.mov?ex=667b40de&is=6679ef5e&hm=8ade2a21a03a457d19a1e7e965a07c8af5140160ff7c09fe5232035c54f9be0c&

[sage kiln]

why is this guy not banned yet

[wispy plank]

What the heck this guy's ??

[barren plank]

Who gives a crap if 1 guy wants to troll

[cerulean grotto]

[barren plank]

Just block and move on

[sage kiln]

Ye but I’m just questioning how he isn’t banned

[cerulean grotto]

Why block when we can get him removed

[sage kiln]

People have been tagging mods about him plenty of times

[cerulean grotto]

He only got muted yesterday

[visual topaz]

Ping mod then

And complain

[icy thorn]

autumn

[wispy plank]

Block done

[barren plank]

Tbh by complaining we insatiate the troll by letting it be known he annoys us

[icy thorn]

get on topic guys!

[barren plank]

Just block and move on

[wispy plank]

Shut up

[icy thorn]

pgr gameplay

[barren plank]

Oh ic

I have a spare Zuwen set that I still used on Glory

Do I just get rid of it

I was initially saving it bc I wanted to use it for Shukra later on

[grand jay]

Might as well save them lol

[sage kiln]

^

[barren plank]

Alright then

I swear any unit that wants class reso are the most difficult and annoying to 25

They just wont comply

[river nymph]

to 25?

[sage kiln]

+25 echoes for sure

[glass bay]

whats this?

[sage kiln]

bad wuwa joke

[sage kiln]

To get lvl 25 class skill

[river nymph]

oh

[glass bay]

btw

we cant call her ploom anymore

kinda sad tbh

[wispy plank]

Can we call boom!

[icy thorn]

3 ping

[raw kiln]

Any advice on how I should build my Selena Capricco? For my Dark team I have SS Wata with his Sig weapon and S rank Kamui Tenb with a 5 star weapon. Do I give Da Vinci to Selena or Kamui?

[shadow holly]

Selena doesn't give dark DMG buff on QTE without sig memories

[remote pier]

you are better off using XXI (A rank dark tank).

[shadow holly]

also yeah SSS xxi >>>>>> base S Teneb
better in everything

[remote pier]

[hazy sandal]

Sad

[buoyant jolt]

[oblique wraith]

Are the coop rewards all the same for each boss? If yes so if I'm under leveled I can just farm the 1st boss with nightmare right?

[buoyant jolt]

no

[remote pier]

higher difficulty coop give higher rarity fodder mats

[buoyant jolt]

you get "better" rewards depending on difficulty

[remote pier]

but if you are underleveld, just solo the first difficulty

[oblique wraith]

Just got a 5* at the 1st boss ,so just wondering

[remote pier]

iirc the 5* rate is consistent across difficulties

[oblique wraith]

Yeah been doing that, cause can't find anyone to coop 😔

[remote pier]

no one really do coop w/ other people

[buoyant jolt]

just solo coop

[remote pier]

I just solo the first difficulty and leave

[oblique wraith]

But sometimes I do get some

[buoyant jolt]

most of them go afk to get rewards without effort

[oblique wraith]

Just got 5* weapon for hyperreal, but don't have him and not planning to get him

[remote pier]

I can't be bothered waiting for randos to ready and not lag my game

[oblique wraith]

Should I just recycle?

[remote pier]

you can use it to reso

[buoyant jolt]

for hyperbrick you mean

[remote pier]

[buoyant jolt]

🧱

[shadow holly]

[oblique wraith]

Oh yeah I'm not sure what's the name but I think so

[buoyant jolt]

lmao

[oblique wraith]

Thanks guys

[remote pier]

watch them release a S rank fire tank w/ ion affix next

[buoyant jolt]

[remote pier]

but she f*male

[vague nebula]

[oblique wraith]

Even better

[raw kiln]

I only have A rank XXI

[remote pier]

oc it's better for people who think w/ their down there

[shadow holly]

yeah and u just farm her shards to sss

[raw kiln]

Farm it from here?

[shadow holly]

yes

[oblique wraith]

I've only got Nanami starfarer and Karen ember for fire team but still need investment, so how much you guys think I can get for PPC with this lineup?

[shadow holly]

uh
if ultimate
u ain't doing sht with that team this rot
moon eater is very tanky even for the full meta fire team
if advanced
ur better off using some actually good off element unit
like Kaleido who is bursty and is very strong in advanced ppc

[shut shard]

Hi while grinding memories how do I decide builds

[remote pier]

grayravens.com

[shadow holly]

^ or just ask here

[shut shard]

I am currently checking there but I cant decide which one to use

[shadow holly]

ok who are u using

[remote pier]

general set is usually the one

[remote pier]

Hi is 4pc Hanna Alisa good?

[oblique wraith]

Ok thanks man, my CW team is solid enough I guess but no Garnet hmm

[remote pier]

Use Chrome Archlight

[shut shard]

I am waiting for Lamia with a SS capriccio and I think of getting scire from free standart thingy

[shadow holly]

yes 4 Hanna 2 Guin is her main build

[remote pier]

[oblique wraith]

I already use him 👍🏻

[oblique wraith]

About kaleido, will she get removed from the dorm shop?

[shadow holly]

do keep in mind that SSS Rozen is going to be better with Lamia since SS Capriccio doesn't deal enough damage to swap into, especially without SS3 + sig Scire

[quasi vale]

or u can come here with specific cases and ask, we just need to know what's ur character's team and sometimes the ranks

[shadow holly]

no

[oblique wraith]

Sorry wrong reply

[shut shard]

I have SSS rozen(halfway to SSS+)

[oblique wraith]

Oh ok cause there's a timer to refresh

[remote pier]

S+ doesn't do much for her. She's QTE bot.

[shut shard]

Yeah it's been 5 days since I startedlmao

[shadow holly]

yes so u just use her
better buff on QTE than sub SSS Capriccio, and she's not locked into fixed 4 memories to have the ability to buff on QTE

[shut shard]

Dark damage bonus doubled on SS iirc

[shadow holly]

at SSS

[shut shard]

4 dv 2 gui

[shadow holly]

yeah you'll be looking at
4dv 2guin Rozen
4bathlon 2eins Scire
and the usual set for Lamia
4derketo 2cottie

[raw swift]

I wonder when new Lucia frame will be released in global

[shut shard]

Is 4 dv a must on any team or an option for old qte bots

[shadow holly]

heavily recommended whenever u can fit it into the team

[shut shard]

That doesnt have a sig set I mean

[shadow holly]

modern chars have their own memory sets but thanks to harmonization next patch some teams still have 4dv on the team

[shut shard]

Do I build luminance

Since Alisa is on the way

[shadow holly]

next patch Alisa is a total replacement to Lumi lol
unless u skip her sig which is prob the highest priority sig in the game

[remote pier]

skip Lumi

[dark halo]

Gotta love how trial uniframes are 4k bp when you need 7k bp to pass the norman bollie mine

[shut shard]

I can use capriccio until I get enough dorm currency for alisa

[shadow holly]

BP

[remote pier]

but you don't need 7k bp

[shut shard]

It would be okayge at least ig

[remote pier]

bp doesn't mean sht

[dark halo]

it's not even bollie mine, it's the stratum mine lol

[shadow holly]

trial uniframes are more than enough even for cloud Island btw

[remote pier]

uniframe stage is literally stand still and look pretty

[shut shard]

Capriccio
Stigmata
rosetta until I get Alisa?

It's better than building luminance?

[shadow holly]

just use Hanying or smth
but it shouldn't take long to get alisa

[dark halo]

idk I can't parry for my life

it just doesn't work I always get hity

[remote pier]

skill issue

[shadow holly]

blue flash
hold dodge
win

parry is not needed

[dark halo]

they are not spamming blue flash all the time

[remote pier]

You don't even have to parry for uniframe

[shut shard]

Same price as kaleido right?

[shadow holly]

yes
100k total

[dark halo]

I'm out of time before I get to the third boss

[shadow holly]

it's like 2 weeks of farming at max commissions level

[shut shard]

I definitely get her during her banner than

[remote pier]

btw Lumi needs leap to be relevant

[shut shard]

From dorm I mean

Rozen leap is not important?

[remote pier]

watch some youtube norman uniframe runs.

Rozen leap doesn't do anything as she is qte bot

[glass bay]

Trslao

[shadow holly]

[glass bay]

Did u see the vid I shared

[shut shard]

Rosetta still viable for like 6 months?

[shadow holly]

which one

more

[glass bay]

In off topic

[remote pier]

~10 months

[shadow holly]

closer to 9-10

[shadow holly]

there were several
which one

[glass bay]

The calc yinlin one

[shut shard]

1 copy+paincage+fantasia thing makes capriccio ss3?

[shadow holly]

and rose is still relevant after Hanying for Hanying PPC runs to bring shred to 100% and also can utilize 6class resos for more dmg

[remote pier]

Capri doesn't have ss3

For Capri, either stay at S or go SSS

[shadow holly]

1copy + 50 shards is SS with 20 shards
need 70 more from that point to SSS
if buying full PPC shard its 40 more

[shut shard]

Do I reach SSS with this?

[shadow holly]

though not like she is worth buying with PPC skulls

[shut shard]

Ok thx

I remember capriccio being viable outside dark team was it just on release

[remote pier]

need sig + reso

[shadow holly]

and SSS too

cuz her SSS technically cheaper

[shut shard]

Alisa-stigmata-rosetta
Lamia-rozen-scire
Kaleido-qu-kcc boy(until wanshi)

[shadow holly]

otherwise can just use someone like r2 Empy or feral
cuz they can also proc 4guin

[shadow holly]

[shut shard]

Do I get watanabe?

Ngl I dont want to

[spiral merlin]

That was because other elements didn’t have free amps at the time

[shut shard]

Is new luna good

[spiral merlin]

And amp is more likely resod

[shut shard]

Annihilator void one

[remote pier]

she's the only one in her role rn

[wispy igloo]

In this game u need everyone

So ofc she good

[spiral merlin]

Luna is very strong regardless

[wispy igloo]

[shut shard]

What about uniframes getting rid of omniframe debuff

Was it 2025

[wispy igloo]

Happens in latest CN patch

So yea 2025

[shut shard]

Is it significant

[wispy igloo]

Uniframe dead anyways

[shut shard]

Let's say If I go casual and dont build a fire team

I have everything else but no fire team

Am I dead

[wispy igloo]

U will suffer in fire related content

Like fire WZ

fire PPC bosses

And norman fire stages

[shut shard]

I dont like watanabe and hyperlee doesnt have timelag calc

[wispy igloo]

[shut shard]

I dont wanna invest on them ngl

[wispy igloo]

Who TF said lee doesn’t have TLC

[shut shard]

Ok he does have tlc but

But only on second part

[wispy igloo]

Ok man u will suffer

If u are ok with that

U do u

[shut shard]

There is no fire attacker on the way right?

[wispy igloo]

Do be aware wata will work as tank for void luna as well

[wispy igloo]

New lucia

[shut shard]

Not launched on cn?

[wispy igloo]

Currently in beta

Next patch

[shut shard]

13 months

[wispy igloo]

[shut shard]

Dang

[remote pier]

she's also the new "lightning" attacker

[wispy igloo]

U will suffer a lot if u skip wata

[wispy plank]

0(-(

[shut shard]

How do I get hyperlee btw

[wispy plank]

Help !!!

[shut shard]

Or should I

[wispy plank]

Wait anniversary event

70% is 50;50

[shut shard]

Standart banner thingy

[wispy igloo]

What happened

[remote pier]

they are shafting hypercar

[wispy plank]

Makees me choose wata or wanshi

[glass bay]

And cw

[wispy igloo]

Wanshi is free

[wispy plank]

I F2P

[shut shard]

Standart banner having one time guaranteed

[glass bay]

Lucia finally beats alpha

[wispy igloo]

So wata is the choice

[remote pier]

they'll make CW the next fire tank or something

[shut shard]

Dorm?

[glass bay]

Void tank alpha

[wispy igloo]

Yep

[wispy plank]

Yeah he free

But I wanna make SSS / runs

[shut shard]

Oh then I can get watanabe easily

[wispy plank]

Don't hate me@wispy igloo

Runs

[wispy igloo]

I wont hate u

[wispy plank]

If you lucky

[shut shard]

Am I stupid for pulling for stigmata rn

[glass bay]

New frame for liv soon maybe?

[wispy igloo]

Its easy buy the BP

[shut shard]

I still havent got her

[wispy igloo]

Or start saving those vouchers for a year

[wispy plank]

Heh give me money then 😂

[wispy plank]

How much is?

[wispy igloo]

I dont know the cost

[shut shard]

?

[wispy igloo]

Depends from where?

The arrival banner?

Dont do it

[wispy plank]

Is depens

[wispy igloo]

Get her in lamia patch

[wispy plank]

Maybe in this patch I guess

[shut shard]

Why shouldnt I get stigmata rn?

Alisa is free

[wispy igloo]

What was it 16000 something for 20 shards

[wispy plank]

1600 voucher ?

[glass bay]

Skip cw skip Lee skip wata

Solo Lucia ftw

[wispy igloo]

Because U dont gamble on 70/30 when there will be a 100% next patch

[shut shard]

I plan on getting scire on that

[visual topaz]

16080

[wispy plank]

Oalah my heart

[shut shard]

It's a 5 day acc I guess it's worth the shot

[visual topaz]

that's the discounted price per month

[wispy plank]

Still 1000

[wispy igloo]

U wont have enough funds

[shut shard]

Isnt it permanent

[visual topaz]

?

[shut shard]

Arent we talking about standart banner guarantee

[wispy igloo]

The permant one is in lamia patch

I was taking about anni banner

[wispy plank]

I mean time to farm

[wispy igloo]

[shut shard]

Oh

[visual topaz]

you don't farm trade vouchers

their amount are limited

[wispy plank]

Oh my bad I mean farm anything!!

[azure barn]

what happened while I'm gone

[shut shard]

So there are 2 guarantees

[wispy igloo]

Thats for 20 u need about 120 for 3S from base S

[wispy plank]

Uewk

[visual topaz]

takes time

[wispy plank]

0)-(

[wispy igloo]

If u not a BP buyer

[wispy plank]

Broke as F2P

[visual topaz]

my friend on CN saved 1 year worth of trade vouchers to SSS Echo as F2P

[wispy igloo]

See i told u to save for a year

[wispy plank]

Oh mama mia

[wispy igloo]

Ask the whels here

Me poor as well

[wispy plank]

Cih

Should I tell liar 😂

[wispy igloo]

Ask xeno/altera/Jeremy

Those guys big whel

[wispy plank]

[unborn frost]

wait, images have been removed from here too?

[wispy igloo]

What images?

[unborn frost]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-points-gun-gun-shoot-gif-3298902

[glass bay]

[unborn frost]

how :v

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

skill issue?

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902283502572150835.gif

[visual topaz]

[remote pier]

[wispy plank]

Why i can't share photos

Oh well that better 😂

[unborn frost]

someone liked to ruin the server

[remote pier]

guess it's a paid feature in this channel just like this game now

[glass bay]

Always has been

[normal sierra]

why did they remove image perms here?

[visual topaz]

guess it's global

[remote pier]

it's a paid feature now

[visual topaz]

they can't make it channel specific

[zenith thorn]

oh yah img risctricon

probably just because of the lucia

[visual topaz]

time for me to flegs my chibis here

[normal sierra]

but other channels got it bruh

[zenith thorn]

[remote pier]

pak you

[normal sierra]

this makes zero sense

[visual topaz]

hmm

[zenith thorn]

making gh img locked is stupid tf

[visual topaz]

trophy room should still be working

[static night]

https://tenor.com/view/selena-elegance-punishing-gray-raven-stop-pgr-gif-5291878807671488125

[normal sierra]

off topic works too

[zenith thorn]

general is img locked

[visual topaz]

the restriction seems to be the same as new char release one

[normal sierra]

but it's really dumb to remove it on this channel

[visual topaz]

on my side with the blue role i still have perms, i guess?

damn

we can do polls

[remote pier]

make all of us helper so we can post images

[zenith thorn]

feel like only gh ans general is img locked

why gh is the question

[analog cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-cat-demiaowa-hello-street-cat-gif-14005121929265449159

[remote pier]

[deft apex]

too much hyperdawn

[normal sierra]

I just wait for the day when they remove image perms on #🎨・pgr-art channel lul

[azure barn]

fr images help a lot with relaying info

I hope they give it back

[analog cargo]

true i love comin here sending ac at every 2 weks

and not comiong back

[azure barn]

cutie

[normal sierra]

well, it's back now lul

[glass bay]

Mid

[icy thorn]

skibid

[deft apex]

so no more image in chat? how help glooba players now?

oh nvm i think they literally just brought it back

[icy thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pickle-gif-2730454625160332588

[glass bay]

||https://youtu.be/iVLOQJpbdSU?si=tYagZPbStkjLFYR9||

[static night]

Spoiler tag please

[glass bay]

How to add on phone again?

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/915526989790736385.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=CatStare

[visual topaz]

add your message in between 2 ||

[static night]

I was joking like all 12 people playing pgr have already seen it

[glass bay]

[tender island]

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

Imagine 12 ppl playing pgr

Thought it was only 5

#💬・pgr-general message

[woven sable]

Pretty sure im the only player

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

[barren plank]

Which uniframe has the most raw damage in order?

(Guild, I would never use uniframes on my own volition)

I just always used Tempest Haicma or Pulao lol

[fringe grove]

real
design is too hard

[remote pier]

Just use Gen AI

[jaunty beacon]

Tempest > haicma > big tie in performance > qu (hit hard but miss 80% of the time) > noan (he sucks)

[barren plank]

Poor noan

I hope he gets an omniframe soon

[river nymph]

[barren plank]

[deft apex]

4.5 stream new noan announcement

[barren plank]

Wait fr or are u trolling

[deft apex]

Also new Selena

[barren plank]

Oh

[brazen spire]

Wata o7

[gusty hamlet]

when do ppc rewards come out?

[glass bay]

every monday

[glass bay]

I think tempest

[gray cosmos]

Tempest owns haicma in an infinite orb scenario like guild siege

but otherwise they are pretty close

I think brickmode SSS+ haicma wins?

[jaunty beacon]

The question is about guild so

[gray cosmos]

O guild 300% tempest

I have sss tempest and sss+ haicma and tempest wins there pretty hard

[dapper skiff]

One stage done

Will do the rest later

[glass bay]

Which mode+

[dapper skiff]

Cloud ofc

[glass bay]

Ooo

Nice

[dapper skiff]

After new week started and you picked a difficulty

Check mail

[rare badge]

What even is the meta setup for guilds schools now?

[glass bay]

I did one round of wz btw

They might snipe

But can defend I think

Phys far from perfect

[jaunty beacon]

I'm talking about own units. Solo school with core A/orb/time for siege and uni. A rank can go multi core A except in some rare scenarios

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/kitteh-kitty-surprise-peep-sneak-gif-16172831

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/котенок-котики-кот-коты-cat-gif-2698092036177484386

[rare badge]

https://tenor.com/view/marrochi-evi-smile-dance-gif-6078120508457222653

[glass bay]

Wut

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-slap-rumble-guranndoll-gif-24453629

The woman is within the slap range

Initiating the sequence

[rare badge]

https://tenor.com/view/m14-girls-frontline-gif-22640340

[glass bay]

Cute tbh

What is this

[rare badge]

M14 From Girls frontline
Another gacha, older than AL

[dapper skiff]

Real

[glass bay]

She needs more headpats

[rare badge]

That she does

[rare badge]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-frontline-m14-cute-no-head-shaking-gif-17728890

[glass bay]

What if oathblaze is an omega weapon

Alpha is fk?