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[hidden ingot]

the closest to tediore we ever got

[rough moat]

been more of a BCM kinda guy recently

[hidden ingot]

do u understand my reference?

[rough moat]

idk i dont play borderlands

[hidden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/kyoukai-no-kanata-nase-hiromi-ew-disgust-gif-11102640

[rough moat]

We love the AR platform in this house

[topaz wraith]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1983730579599454552

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

"I'm blind, but I can still 'see' what's in people's hearts. "

#WutheringWaves
#Qiuyuan

X · Oct 30, 2025, 3:00 AM

why do they drown all their characters in stereotypes

like why though

[hidden ingot]

what stereotype is this mf?

[coarse dust]

i like my chinese cultivator nanscent realm character

idk whats wrong with it

[hidden ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1417601054840983757/1431873834918744074/m2-res_480p-ezgif.com-crop.gif

[topaz wraith]

Im saying this because of the quote they're giving him

literally the single most generic ass thing a blind character can say lmao

seriously

[hidden ingot]

what should a blind man said instead?

[topaz wraith]

anything but this

[fringe bay]

Let me cook

I do not need to see the leaf to know which way the wind blows. I do not need to see you to know how you will fall.

[runic zenith]

https://x.com/RE_Games/status/1983715598698786882

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X · Oct 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

[fringe bay]

https://tenor.com/view/already-dead-gif-20369700

[hidden ingot]

ok wth?

[hidden ingot]

Kuro will never make a character sounds a bit evil

[hidden ingot]

i thought mossberg is made in mexico?

[rough moat]

texas

[nova fractal]

General staff at epic theaters

[fringe bay]

Sounds like a chill job

[hidden ingot]

i have no idea what that job is

[fringe bay]

Unless you also have to take care of inventory managing and props care

[silent portal]

ky!

[nova fractal]

Trust me when I say this
Never let your mans do your application and not ask what he applies for

[silent portal]

i tried night abyss, it was horrible

[hidden ingot]

I dont think you are fit enough for that job 😓

and it sound worse than working a fast food

[hidden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/astra-yao-zen-zén-zên-less-robin-honkai-star-soundorientated-gif-7749305887737111406

[nova fractal]

Nah I can do it
Don't worry
(I need this)

[silent portal]

why do these today's games always come with a male mc with women around and tghe women started fall in love with him? it's cringey so bad...srry

[nova fractal]

You expect mature storytelling in modern gachas that aren't made by arknights team

[fringe bay]

ever heard of wavering wurth?

[hidden ingot]

why dont you play female mc?
then it become yuri story

[silent portal]

isn't the mc a female?

[nova fractal]

Also when I went to epic for chainsaw man movie they wasn't really doing anything except for checking up on stuff

[silent portal]

pgr is just the same and they even killed people where they are actually doing much better than the uselesss commandant mc..

[silent portal]

yes..

[nova fractal]

Useless is crazy when we actually do shi

[hidden ingot]

me have never touch csm ever

[silent portal]

he's just using the constructs as his shield, hiding behind a bunch of women..

[hidden ingot]

bro is a human

[nova fractal]

We shoot
We help with robot mental
We sometimes do a little bit of gambling (chapter 31)

[hidden ingot]

why so many women? chinese degenaracy

[silent portal]

yes..Chiko is way too far useful compared with this so called commandant..

[hidden ingot]

unlike warframe with a perfect 50/50 cast
and 3 non binary

[silent portal]

a motivator...

idk why my mood's so bad rn

[hidden ingot]

remember the playable commander event and we can use up to 4 weapons

we do move from plume and ca bruh

as a human

[fringe bay]

Female or male, that game follows the same formula

[silent portal]

we probably just have different perspective because my otp is Camellya and Phorlova..

[hidden ingot]

Otp?

[silent portal]

[silent portal]

pairing

[fringe bay]

Yep, sounds like you are the target audience for such games

[silent portal]

it's literally different.

[raven wadi]

Even when we don’t include that, Commandant is still more of an active help compared to similar gacha protagonists I’ve seen

[fringe bay]

Really?

[hidden ingot]

Idk I don't play gacha

[silent portal]

yes..

[fringe bay]

it's nice that you're enjoying the game. Still, that game will continue to introduce more females that fall in love with the MC

[raven wadi]

Fair enough

[hidden ingot]

What should I teach a newbie in Warframe?

What should they do first?

[silent portal]

come to read this, it's different with my otp thing, i am more into aserious relationship between specific character

[raven wadi]

Uhh idk. Help them progress through the star chart

[hidden ingot]

I think newbie shouldn't pick Excalibur because they gonna get a better one anyway

And volt is melee focused just like excal
So best starter is nova

[raven wadi]

That’s not until the sacrifice though.

Plus there’s always Helminth to feed base excal to.

Volt you can get from corn research.

Mag you can get from the easiest boss in the game

[fringe bay]

It's hard to do that in games with shallow story like wuwa. They need to add some emotional attachment into every new characters to sell them

[hidden ingot]

Wait i thought starter is nova?

[fringe bay]

And what's the easiest way to do that? Make them Female + Fall in love

[hidden ingot]

Damn they look similar

[raven wadi]

No. It’s Excal, volt, and mag.

Back in the day it was Loki in place of Volt

[silent portal]

yes, and the story does not affect me because i only sense the presence of my favourite character and my otp, i am usually making my own story. AU.

[fringe bay]

That's how you enjoy a game. Very nice

[hidden ingot]

complete opposite of me
i only care about numbers
as a warframe player

warframe player only care about one thing and it's disgusting

[silent portal]

you are wide open, a clean headshot is ready..

[hidden ingot]

i have catalyzing shield i cant be one shotted

[devout thunder]

[hidden ingot]

bro appear once in a blue moon
send an emote then dipped

[hidden ingot]

how's duet night abyss?

[devout thunder]

Lag in mobile

I'm waiting for devs to fix it

[dry badge]

so far its good, but i heard the co-op only unlocks about midgame

havent unlocked it myself

[hidden ingot]

ppl complain about the horrible drop rate

[dry badge]

what drop rate? the gacha?

[hidden ingot]

warframe grind tfd drop rate

[hidden ingot]

mod, blood letter

[dry badge]

i have no idea what those are

[dry badge]

probably havent played long enough

[hidden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[dry badge]

oof

yeah mobile controls are pretty bad too

[hidden ingot]

when i say it's bad it's bad

warframe grind feel like daily to this game

[dry badge]

daily? the grind is daily gated??

[hidden ingot]

yeah
normal mission rate is so horrible dont bother

[dry badge]

its bad even with the drop multiplier thing?

[hidden ingot]

u know warframe rotation AABB ABBC BBCC yes?

[dry badge]

i kinda forgot but its a familiar term

[hidden ingot]

like after a certain wave the drop is from C rotation only

C reward table

[dry badge]

oh yeah

limiting that to daily is pretty bad alright

[hidden ingot]

no

[hidden ingot]

imagine after round 5 it reset back to A reward table and u have to grind again

[dry badge]

yeah thats bad

but wait is that not the same on wf?

i last played like almost 2 years ago

[hidden ingot]

no warframe dont reset
after a certain of wave it's C only

[dry badge]

ohhh

then what are the no lives gonna do after they hit the grind limit?? play warframe? seems like a good move

[hidden ingot]

remember warframe u only need 4 prime parts with one or 2 rare part

here u need 60

60 shard
and to ascend it u need dupes too

warframe there's no such thing as dupe

[dry badge]

and how bad is grinding for those 60?

[hidden ingot]

even mod need dupe

[hidden ingot]

the shard they give is random just like relic

it's tfd if u played that game

[dry badge]

that means u cant rly laserfocus on getting a specific character huh?

unlike wf

[hidden ingot]

i mean if there's no dupe mechanic then 60 shard is fine

[hidden ingot]

idk

[dry badge]

how many shards u get per run anyway?

[hidden ingot]

idk but i think just 1

[devout thunder]

LAUREL MENTIONED

[dry badge]

1 and its a random shard??

thats pretty bs

[devout thunder]

wtf we got huaxu too?

[hidden ingot]

u can choose from other ppl drop like relic in wf

[dry badge]

and u cant even minimize the drop selection u get?

[hidden ingot]

just play the game bruh

play and give me your thought

[dry badge]

i havent reached that far and i am at work

[hidden ingot]

i will wait for 1.1

cause from what i seen it's a waste of time to play now

[dry badge]

i wish i can play at work pc

[devout thunder]

it's good

[hidden ingot]

i would rather play warframe if i sit down to use pc tbh

[devout thunder]

better than wuwa

[dry badge]

so if u could be so kind as to provide more detail on the drops etc, maybe i can abandon the idea of continuing the game

[hidden ingot]

a very low bar

[devout thunder]

yeah that's a good point tbh

but it's good

[hidden ingot]

no continue playing the game

i want your thought

[dry badge]

[devout thunder]

I think it's really good tbh overhated af, but I've never played Warframe so maybe Warfame is 5000 times better

but I doubt Warframe was perfect on release

[hidden ingot]

warframe isnt perfect
but it was released in 2013
standard at that time was different

and they are indie back then

[devout thunder]

well this isn't exactly a major studio either

[hidden ingot]

they got funding

warframe has to publish themself

[devout thunder]

and warframe got no funding?

[hidden ingot]

all from their pocket money

[devout thunder]

damn respect

[hidden ingot]

https://youtu.be/K_A-Ulv_3E4?si=JfxNThzIWmzSFCKh

[hidden ingot]

warframe is a game build by the community

[devout thunder]

either way, game was not perfect on release

can't expect a new game by a new studio to release with no jank, especially with the big changes made before release

the only really major issue I've seen so far is how it's basically unplayable on mobile

[dry badge]

pls elaborate

[hidden ingot]

that's huge bruh

[devout thunder]

yes that's why I said major issue

[hidden ingot]

watch the video bruh

[hidden ingot]

i can play it tho
but it feel bad

[devout thunder]

I don't play games on phone to begin with so it doesn't affect me but a lot of people do so

[ripe geyser]

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X · Oct 30, 2025, 3:01 AM

[devout thunder]

I've seen people throwing around the take that it shouldn't have been made for mobile at all

and how a bunch of other games rly constrain themselves by having to account for mobile

[hidden ingot]

did u know the bullet jump which DNA take idea from originate from a bug?

helix jump in dna

[devout thunder]

no

[hidden ingot]

the jump where u spin

[devout thunder]

yea I know

[hidden ingot]

it was originally a bug

[devout thunder]

I've seen them in warframe too, everyone moves around like that

[hidden ingot]

but player loved it so they make it a feature

and it's now the signature of warframe

[dry badge]

no can do, im at work with an audioless pc rn and net is pretty bad

[devout thunder]

isn't the signature of warframe grinding 5000 hours?

[hidden ingot]

this is warframe at launch
https://youtu.be/aJIeaTNFkw4

[fiery geyser]

are singers replaced soon?

[dry badge]

u move faster compared to regular running, but its different in dna

[ripe geyser]

They have 10 weeks left

[fiery geyser]

[hidden ingot]

i mean the grind is endless

[dry badge]

i think ur speed is pretty much equal, running and bullet jumping, in dna

[hidden ingot]

because there's trading

even if u have everything u can farm more to sell to ppl

get the premium currency and buy stuff with it

[dry badge]

there is regulation on selling plats for real money right?

[hidden ingot]

yeah
but selling in game item for plat is fine

[nova fractal]

https://x.com/AOD_EN_Official/status/1983719590514639163

AngelsOfDelusion(AOD) (@AOD_EN_Official)

Still feels like a dream 💗
Hope I didn't leave a weird impression (；ω；)
I was so excited I called us a band instead of a group... imma start working hard right now! If I write ten more songs for Aria, maybe that won't count as lying to Miss Astra...

X · Oct 30, 2025, 2:16 AM

https://tenor.com/view/geto-geto-suguru-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-geto-black-gif-10705447448079783433

Were so fcked

[dry badge]

is that like a hard ban if u were to be found out?

[nova fractal]

Were cooked

[hidden ingot]

yeah

[nova fractal]

Doomed

[desert plank]

I mean those shtty idol characters were pretty much confirmed in 2.1

[dry badge]

so i thought of a possible loophole on that
u give the plats u want to sell to a dummy account and then do the trades with said account

[nova fractal]

You don't understand

The BA fans are coming

THOSE ppl are coming

[cyan frost]

im gonna farm cavia.. you wanna join?

[dry badge]

u call them ppl?

[nova fractal]

No

[dry badge]

[nova fractal]

I just can't say the word

[dry badge]

say it

[hidden ingot]

Ehh...
Started going home

[desert plank]

i wish my wifi was a bit faster

[dry badge]

@hidden ingot whaddya think?

[nova fractal]

https://youtu.be/uTufIEGj1ZU?si=N0oMcKLjvdmKraZl

[devout thunder]

I like BA but I'm not a BA fan

[hidden ingot]

De isn't stupid

[fiery geyser]

🤨

someone forgot to doompost about hi3

[devout thunder]

also I found a gay

[fiery geyser]

how many times was that game about to die?

[vocal totem]

there's alot actually 😭

story is slightly better than wuwa 1.0 by a mile

[devout thunder]

that's a ridiculously low bar tbf

[vocal totem]

true but yk 1.0 "gacha" is usally silly

[devout thunder]

yea

also why is it called phoxhunter in English wtf is a phox

it's moon hunter in Japanese

that sounds cooler

[vocal totem]

from what i know it's some kind of monster or animal

[devout thunder]

never heard of it

[vocal totem]

still kinda random

[cunning compass]

[devout thunder]

moon hunter sounds like bloodborne

[vocal totem]

oh right qiu is here

big skip patch

[cunning compass]

i just want zani because i missed the banner

[vocal totem]

I hope you don't have peeb so you can mald like me with srover

[cunning compass]

yeah i dont have peeb lol

[vocal totem]

Trust it's actually fun

[cunning compass]

this my first time doing banner

im new but the account is not

i made the account when game launched but play a year later

[devout thunder]

ACCOUNT BUYER

[cunning compass]

nah im not

[vocal totem]

parry swap > quickswap rover > hold ba > ba > E (2 stacks)
swap back to zani plunge/dodge counter sit down shield kick
swap > qs rover > hold ba > ba > E > anim cancel > liberation

[cunning compass]

im lazy so after made the acc i just uninstalled it lol

[devout thunder]

I feel ya wuwa is ass so I uninstalled pretty quick

[random hornet]

You know what? I think I like this version of Warframe.
I wish I play this game sooner.

[nova fractal]

Wuwa so fcking dry rn

Also pissing me off rn

[vocal totem]

truth can be said for any gacha game

[nova fractal]

Zzz isn't dry rn
I gots lots to do

[vocal totem]

I mean aside from the monthly updates the mundane daily is where gacha is

[vocal totem]

are you not caught up

[nova fractal]

No

[vocal totem]

Then thats why

If you're caught up whywould you wring the game dry

[nova fractal]

I haven't done the story nor events

[vocal totem]

If the game feels dry then don't force yourself to play it

[nova fractal]

Wuwa only has ONE event and a story

That's it

[vocal totem]

its really bad

this patch is shorter than phrolova's

[desert plank]

Zzz endgame resets every 2 weeks though compared to wuwa every 1 month

[nova fractal]

That too

[vocal totem]

wuwa needs another endgame

hope 3.0 adds another one

[nova fractal]

Wuwa needs to retire whiwa
Get a new endgame team

[vocal totem]

I hate whiwa for one reason

its ping based and since I'm playing on asia and not sea

[nova fractal]

Dawg I can't clear again

[vocal totem]

I have to do the pause tech every wave just so they spawn faster

[nova fractal]

They switched the tokens so that Augusta isn't worth using

[vocal totem]

I cleared with augusta well wiht iuno

isnt there a fusion token rn

[desert plank]

People say so

[vocal totem]

there is

[nova fractal]

I also don't really feel like learning a entire mechanic just for one team to function

[nova fractal]

Sig Augusta?

[desert plank]

It's galbrena and qiuyuan shill though

[vocal totem]

That's.... how even genshin works 😭

[cyan frost]

gauss would love this

[vocal totem]

yeah but no iuno sig

[nova fractal]

Quick swap timings too strict

[vocal totem]

Fusion?

[nova fractal]

Changli brant lupa

[minor briar]

Wait who that

[nova fractal]

Arknights endfield beta 2 soon

Lock in
Also I should be asleep for that job interview

[vocal totem]

changli has a huge window cause of her resonance skil lbeing flexsible but yeah i dont blame you it's complicated

[minor briar]

Ignored

[vocal totem]

lucy from cyberpunk?

[minor briar]

[untold coyote]

Good morning. Screw this day and my maidenless life.

[minor briar]

Oh right lucy

[nova fractal]

Idk
Maybe lock in fr

[nova fractal]

I don't really bother aside from making zani team rotation faster
(Swap to either pheeb or sk during nightfall)

[vocal totem]

I think i'm just so used to qs i tend to judge alot

[nova fractal]

Even then pheebs rotation can't really go that fast do to some reason her meter not being full by second nightfall

[vocal totem]

remember you only need 15 stacks

going beyond will just waste time

[nova fractal]

More optimization

[vocal totem]

my srover reaching 15 stacks while zani is ulting 🤤

[nova fractal]

Allows me to get to zani faster on each rotation

[vocal totem]

do you parry while on ult

cause that instantly lets you use enhanced hvy atk

which is like 4 seconds of qs window if you peeb

[nova fractal]

They don't attack you on whiwa

[vocal totem]

oh whiwa

[nova fractal]

Or at least from what I experience it's not worth it to use parry skill

[runic zenith]

https://x.com/lastcloudiaen/status/1983715609029587062

Last Cloudia (@lastcloudiaen)

🔥Collab Announced!🔥

Last Cloudia x Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

This adventure shall live on in our memories.

#LastCloudia x #AtelierRyza #Crossover

X · Oct 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

[vocal totem]

only against bosses

whiwa needs to retire actually

it still feels so experimental to this day

https://x.com/ddcc0123/status/1982815898743234989

동동 (@ddcc0123)

Crop ver
#WutheringWaves #鳴潮 #명조 #Qiuyuan

X · Oct 27, 2025, 2:25 PM

I also found this

[minor briar]

What

[nova fractal]

Dawg
It feels like the game mode activity hates you

[minor briar]

When did this happen

[nova fractal]

Add on to the fact that this patch barely has pulls and endgame resets mouthly for some baffling reason

I feel as if whiwa was a waste

[vocal totem]

fanart

[vocal totem]

this patch asterites is lower than phrolova patch iirc

cause no new map

I wish kuso would have compensated with more events

[nova fractal]

It is
That's why I'm not able to get galbrena and was really banking on chisa to be good kit wise

[devout thunder]

kusogame hates f2p

[vocal totem]

truth

[nova fractal]

Pgr?

[vocal totem]

yeah?

[devout thunder]

you will grind for 20 hours then lose 50/50 and be forced to spend

[devout thunder]

no

[vocal totem]

50/50 system needs to be eradicated

[devout thunder]

facts

[nova fractal]

Hoyo fault

[vocal totem]

If I have a genie wish I would remove the concept of 50/50

[nova fractal]

Facts

[vocal totem]

and free the genie so earth eos's

[devout thunder]

yes hoyo popularized it but kuro didn't need to adopt it

they did it for a simple reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jouFjcxQA

[vocal totem]

every game after hoyo went for its garbage 50/50 system i really hate it

[nova fractal]

Wuwa genshin but better remember that

[vocal totem]

Also the same reason why I won't be playing czn even though it's good

I'm so tired of 50/50s

[desert plank]

[devout thunder]

isn't that just some roguelike card thing like slay the spire?

[vocal totem]

Yup it has features from r1999 and limbus which is really nice

[devout thunder]

just play morimens smh

[vocal totem]

limbus one is arguable though it's just the distortion system

I rather wait for hades 2

[nova fractal]

Didn't even know it had 50/50
It was just eh to me

[vocal totem]

Turn based strategy (hsr has lost strategy a long time ago )

[nova fractal]

Like wow gameplay is mainly a rouge like with epic 7 animation

[nova fractal]

Just play arknights

[devout thunder]

not the same type of game

also arknights sucks

[nova fractal]

We don't listen to you

[ripe geyser]

Good choice or evil choice

[devout thunder]

they hated jesus because he told them the truth

[nova fractal]

Tf did bro say again

[vocal totem]

I actually am

[devout thunder]

that arknights sucks

[vocal totem]

almost one night in and i'm enjoying it

month*

[devout thunder]

enjoy it while you can

[vocal totem]

[nova fractal]

Wow its like no everybody trying to ultra optimize base

I still haven't gotten around to fixing mine

Thank god endfield doesn't really have a relic system

[vocal totem]

I mean they added auto collect to base just recently

[devout thunder]

good, don't

you don't want to ultra optimize base

[vocal totem]

I've heard how bad it was

[devout thunder]

ultra optimizing base entails logging in every couple of hours, including at night when you're meant to be sleeping

just logging in twice a day is fine enough

but even casual af you an put a lot of effort into the base like staggered rotations and operator combos

and staggering fiammetta refreshes to upkeep your operator combos 24/7

[vocal totem]

Iasked my friend about this but it's not really mandatory

[devout thunder]

and a lot of other tedious bullsht

they need to remove the base

[devout thunder]

it's not, but that's what ultra optimizing the base entails

[nova fractal]

I'm about to ask the arknights discord about this too

[devout thunder]

it's not mandatory at all

just log in twice a day

[vocal totem]

press rotate

Well I don't know about vets but new players do have that shiny qol

[devout thunder]

2/4/3 base logs in 4 times a day but like don't use 2/4/3 lmao

[nova fractal]

Sweep is amazing

[devout thunder]

speaking of, can you downgrade the right side buildings already?

[nova fractal]

The answer

[devout thunder]

that's literally what I said?

[hidden ingot]

Maybe u r actually religious

[devout thunder]

but you said "ultra optimizing"

if you're ultra optimizing, you log in every 2 or 3 hours

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[devout thunder]

it's just very few people do that

[vocal totem]

do you ultra optimize

[devout thunder]

no

[hidden ingot]

Ak has good lore
Bad gameplay

[nova fractal]

No

[untold coyote]

Screw the Luna subculture.

[nova fractal]

Bro don't like tower defense

[vocal totem]

[devout thunder]

good gameplay when it comes to the actual real game itself

[hidden ingot]

I play btd6

[devout thunder]

all the gacha bullsht around it sucks

[vocal totem]

i dont like btd6 too linear

[devout thunder]

like the base and material farming

[hidden ingot]

U can play field runner

[untold coyote]

Screw it soo fcking much soo it becomes a pile of feces

[devout thunder]

you should see the spreadsheets that ultra optimizer base builders make

[vocal totem]

btd6 is just boring to me

[devout thunder]

they literally do like time tables of every couple hours they log in and all the operators they need to swap and where

[nova fractal]

Sounds like Xenoblade 2 blade ability farming

[vocal totem]

frontiers and xenoblade 🫶

[devout thunder]

haven't played that but it's much worse since you play Arknights for years

[vocal totem]

yeah i havent

[devout thunder]

I don't think anybody actually ultra optimizes the base to the point they wake up multiple times per night to log in to the base

at least I hope so

[hidden ingot]

U know there's those kind of ppl exist

[vocal totem]

I mean if im ever burnt out I'll just leave it for awhile

[devout thunder]

old but still good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_y9ltdM5Rc

[vocal totem]

its so easy to drop games

[untold coyote]

Before genocide - after the start of genocide. Stellaris

[vocal totem]

space genocide

[devout thunder]

base operator rotation schedules

[vocal totem]

space racism

[vocal totem]

lowkey my friend just told me to put anyone i want that works with things

[nova fractal]

You talking to a hardcore xc fan
Beaten 3 out of 4 games

[devout thunder]

yea but that's casual af these are the giga optimizers who wake up in the middle of the night

[vocal totem]

breathing arknights is their life i guess

[vocal totem]

tenno is the space janitor

[devout thunder]

they all burn out and quit eventually for obvious reasons

[nova fractal]

My ass is not paying attention to this

I'll just do enough optimization to actually get cashflow and exp going

[vocal totem]

one way to burn out

[coarse dust]

Arknight slop

[untold coyote]

testament13456789100000 is my user name if you want to send friend

[coarse dust]

The story is boring

[hidden ingot]

Omfkg

[vocal totem]

I mean even if you quit arknights from what i've heard you can still clear if you're enstablished

[vocal totem]

I like the story so far im ch8

[coarse dust]

The only thing that I found engaging in arknight is the challenge and the gambling

[untold coyote]

It might more or less zeroes though

[nova fractal]

Besides I know arknights isn't like pgr where I treat meta like a cc treats the gacha revenue chart like gospel only for it to be a not accurate description on how much a gacha is making

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-xqc-wot-xqcow-gif-26504210

[nova fractal]

Aka I'm a casual meta slave in pgr

[coarse dust]

Who the hell wanted to see gacha revenue

[hidden ingot]

Lotte will prove that wrong by force u to show ur build

[nova fractal]

Damn that fast?

[coarse dust]

Unless they are unemployed

[untold coyote]

As a casual guy, meta slaves and hardcores drive me into existential crisis

[hidden ingot]

Whatever

[nova fractal]

I don't have arknights installed rn due to nikke anni and p5x

[hidden ingot]

Time to grind standing

[vocal totem]

i've been playing for a month now

[coarse dust]

Everyone in arknight is an A$$shole

[vocal totem]

can you really blame them if you have crystal cancer

[minor briar]

Not the bean

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588921614303233/1113759395642359839/an.gif

[untold coyote]

Everyone in every gacha game is an ahole

[hidden ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316155485589606538/1423187497093173258/FACT_CHECKED.gif

[minor briar]

Hi coffee

I usually put sugar in my coffee

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/rice-shu-arknights-gif-16003262498867751520

[minor briar]

[hidden ingot]

u seem to taken a liking to me

[coarse dust]

Worse sht is khmrz or whatever that place name

[minor briar]

?

[coarse dust]

Writer keep edging it's villain

[minor briar]

We talked before

So I just greet u

[coarse dust]

Just kill the sht already

[wicked sedge]

Touhou artists just hit different sometimes.
https://x.com/okina_822/status/1808391125675528463

[devout thunder]

no

[coarse dust]

Luna slop

[untold coyote]

Seconded

[vocal totem]

touhou artists and making armpits

[devout thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

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FxTwitter · Oct 30, 2025, 5:32 AM

[vocal totem]

another gacha game?

it just never stops coming huh.

[runic zenith]

yes its about trains girls

[nova fractal]

No
Everybody either suffered or is a warcrimal

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-arknights-gif-1251548307792778500

don't forget crystal cancer

[untold coyote]

Username there if want to send friend

[nova fractal]

Read Babel rq

[coarse dust]

4

Plat

[untold coyote]

Yeah i am broke

[vocal totem]

I died

[coarse dust]

Should stay dead

[vocal totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064021453403594908/1429399817938800730/togif.gif

[coarse dust]

Slop theressa with her slop clone

[hidden ingot]

she is thelema

[coarse dust]

Thelemarketing

[vocal totem]

theresa is somewhere inside civilight eterna I just know it

I will cope till earth eos's

[hidden ingot]

[coarse dust]

I rather her stay dead like the white rabbit btch

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-girl-head-pat-headpat-anime-gif-15491115994804690187

It's okay

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-status-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-solid-revengeance-mgsr-mother-of-all-omeletes-gif-14313382989191267439

[untold coyote]

Hi3rd is such a slop game with an even more slop fandom.

[desert plank]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-lappland-gif-2648068062675608454

[wicked sedge]

Arknights or something?

[coarse dust]

Battle cats

[vocal totem]

battle cats is alright just like btd6 too linear for me

[nova fractal]

Better story than hsr

[nova fractal]

Peak suffering story arknights has

[coarse dust]

Phainon slop get cucked by MC

[desert plank]

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-rancher-tabby-slime-angry-pouting-pout-gif-12608605292176891274

[coarse dust]

Imagine ending the arc with just power of friendship while Elysian get ntr ed

[wicked sedge]

I'm still putting GFL ahead of it in terms of suffering because holy hell is is insanely brutal with its characters but Arknights is still good from what I've been able to read.

[untold coyote]

My ahh. Both slop

[hidden ingot]

u downloaded the game yet?

[desert plank]

40 mins left

[coarse dust]

If you want brutality go with guardian tales

[vocal totem]

what game

[desert plank]

Warframe slop

[vocal totem]

warframe peak or warframe slop

[hidden ingot]

tfd

[devout thunder]

hop on DNA

[vocal totem]

tfd

[hidden ingot]

slop

[nova fractal]

Did you get to chapter 8?

[wicked sedge]

Okay but does it involve a virus rewriting a character into a villain against their own will and just slowly enough to make it miserable.

[coarse dust]

You're still talking about guardian tales right?

[wicked sedge]

How about the betrayal of a team linked from the very start in a way that it results in one dead, two severely wounded, and another entirely taken away and tortured till death.

[untold coyote]

Peak

[coarse dust]

I quit that game before season 2 finished

[vocal totem]

tfd is not peak

[coarse dust]

I only reached Cammie get beat part

[runic zenith]

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X · Oct 30, 2025, 5:34 AM

[nova fractal]

Who TF is playing this

[wicked sedge]

How about the complete fleshing out of a character into a depressingly sad character only to be unceremoniously murdered by their twin?

[devout thunder]

nobody playing that

[coarse dust]

What's that game anyway

[vocal totem]

anime train gacha is insane

[devout thunder]

chat did you pull for the new elon musk hyperloop 5 star train?

[vocal totem]

😭

that actually got me giggling

[nova fractal]

Wtf is that zeta Gundam ass nah victory Gundam ass suffering subplot

[wicked sedge]

Oh, oh!
Or a longtime character with a vast history of characterization and fleshing out into a character that is extremely hard to not empathize with and understand making the ultimate sacrifice at the end!

[desert plank]

Is there anime car girls gacha game yet

[vocal totem]

we got horse idols
now we got train idols

[hidden ingot]

may comeback gacha because of this

[wicked sedge]

Only for her to somehow be resurrected and turned into a disgusting object for sexual gratification because of a sequel being slop.

God I wish I could flay a Mica dev alive.

[hidden ingot]

gonna have max elon musk train

[vocal totem]

what if they make anime beyblade gacha idol girls

[nova fractal]

Ak15?

[hidden ingot]

remove idol girls and u r sold

[desert plank]

He would definitely play

[vocal totem]

they made idol horse girl gachas so

[hidden ingot]

i hate idol girl

[vocal totem]

I know you will play it even if its with idol girls

[untold coyote]

Umamusume

[coarse dust]

I miss alchemy star

[wicked sedge]

They fight then do idol stuff.

[untold coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gif-23062989

[vocal totem]

they bey and idol

[wicked sedge]

This is how Umamusume works.
They race each other in a run and then do idol stuff.

[vocal totem]

yes

[nova fractal]

I mean I like the nikke approach of horni = bait for character suffering for the most part

[hidden ingot]

why are there girls in my train game?

[sour vigil]

It’s alright so far but the controller support needs A LOT of work. You can effectively soft lock by opening your tactical backpack and it’s annoying. On top of that, controller breaks a lot of things such as cutscenes and navigating the UI.

[hidden ingot]

slop

[wicked sedge]

It's pretty dogshit in Nikke.

Can't tell if they want your hand to be in your pants or up wiping your tears

[nova fractal]

Both?

[wicked sedge]

I only got through the introductory chapter and honestly it throws its cards out too quickly.

5 minutes isn't enough to get attached to a character.

[hidden ingot]

[wicked sedge]

It's like Akame Ga Kill.

[sour vigil]

Whatever gets people to swipe.

[nova fractal]

Idk nikkes plot got me very engaged when I do it but I barely remember what happens after

[vocal totem]

you can't be for real

[untold coyote]

I am playing that game

[hidden ingot]

it's fcking train man

[wicked sedge]

You throw it WAY too quickly and suddenly there's barely any reason to get attached to anything.

Kill too fast and nothing is achieved.

[vocal totem]

train idol girls

[untold coyote]

Can't get attached to characters=best game

[hidden ingot]

[nova fractal]

Jjk

[hidden ingot]

idol slop

[nova fractal]

[wicked sedge]

This is why Angelia is such an incredible character, because we get over 12 hours of buildup with her.

[vocal totem]

[nova fractal]

Nikke?

[wicked sedge]

And it's some of the greatest characterization I've ever seen.

[wicked sedge]

Girls' Frontline.

[wicked sedge]

You get to learn the character inside and out, you rely upon them and see how they react and act in the world.

You get to see the bond they developed with their team and the people who helped build that from the very start.

[coarse dust]

And then segs

[wicked sedge]

The foundation is created and properly built upon, so that when the whole thing comes down, it's an extremely depressing tragedy.

[coarse dust]

After that it's segs

[untold coyote]

This has to be the best meme out there lol

[sudden panther]

More segs

[nova fractal]

Dawg
Who tf cares if your gay

[untold coyote]

Literally i can't gaf, but they just had to be loud about it

[hidden ingot]

srutal beg

[runic zenith]

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X · Oct 29, 2025, 11:00 AM

[hidden ingot]

gfl2 is peak

[sudden panther]

oi

[hidden ingot]

what?

[nova fractal]

So then they die

[sudden panther]

ohayo toilet

[coarse dust]

Isn't this too much?

[noble tangle]

spend less time on twitter

[wicked sedge]

In a story about war and destruction, one cannot expect everyone to survive.

[untold coyote]

Now i am going to spend more time on twitter

[noble tangle]

please dont

[sudden panther]

[untold coyote]

Hahahaha

[noble tangle]

self harm is bad😭

[wicked sedge]

Tbh I think that's one of my great gripes of PGR.
It keeps making me think it's about tragedy and war and yet nobody seems to die except NPCs we get very little info about.

[sudden panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1405540380325183518/998fa50587ae422c981a7e7aea27f50d20250722.gif

[nova fractal]

This that zeta Gundam characterization
If they don't show up in zz Gundam they either didn't survive zeta or where apart of titans
Or where in stardust memory aka didn't exist by ZZ Gundam

[hidden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/florence-pa-15-gfl-girls-frontline-2-gfl2-gif-9826811439777222704

[untold coyote]

Oh yes

[sudden panther]

bruh

[hidden ingot]

[wicked sedge]

It's 12 AM, I'm too tired to comprehend this.

[nova fractal]

Tldr
||If your name wasn't a on ship crew member for Aueg or kamile* or his girl or aren't amero or char or aren't apart of neo zeon your ass isn't surviving zeta||

[wicked sedge]

That's more like PGR.

Main characters in GFL die or suffer worse fates.

[nova fractal]

||*kamile is comatose throughout double zeta||

Also cca exist why would amero or char die in zeta

[wicked sedge]

[nova fractal]

Main characters in Gundam do die
Alot of them

[hidden ingot]

A lot of ppl dying doesn't make a story good

[nova fractal]

War stories tho

[hidden ingot]

U guy r comparing which story ppl suffer more

[nova fractal]

Besides zetas body count don't compare to victory where from what I hear barely anyone survived that war

[sudden panther]

Lol only war anime i’ll ever watch is Kingdom

[nova fractal]

Put on that Gundam unicorn

[hidden ingot]

War is bad

[nova fractal]

We know

[hidden ingot]

Some one fantasize it

[sudden panther]

Isn’t that mecha

[nova fractal]

Ain't no way

Bro doesn't like mecha

[hidden ingot]

Gundam slop

[desert plank]

[sudden panther]

https://tenor.com/view/hysilens-hysilens-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-17286252428321420440

[hidden ingot]

U free today or what

[sudden panther]

mf it’s 7 am

don’t worry i go to work soon lmao

[nova fractal]

2:13
I really need to sleep

[hidden ingot]

Nope it's 8 am

[sudden panther]

7.13

[hidden ingot]

Sleep late when there's interview tomorrow

[sudden panther]

[vocal totem]

I see

[hidden ingot]

I thought u r 5 hours slower but it's actually 6?

[nova fractal]

How long ago is this

[vocal totem]

4 weeks ago

https://youtube.com/shorts/kz_HeNpIyWM?si=oN2ZCt-NR1JUnKAM

yk the fix will be if they adapt sifu combat

[desert plank]

i hate my slow wifi

[sudden panther]

So your time rn is 13.14?

[vocal totem]

they couldcombine sifu and spiderman

[hidden ingot]

Yep

[devout thunder]

[hidden ingot]

Turn on volumetric fog and your pc explode

[desert plank]

i have a sht laptop

[hidden ingot]

Taht sht is the slayer of performance

Turn it off

[untold coyote]

Let's see who is a veteran. How many hours do we have in Warframe? I have 1756.2 hours

[hidden ingot]

[hidden ingot]

U have anger issues
U should fix it

[desert plank]

0 hours

[untold coyote]

No dodging the question

[hidden ingot]

U win

[hidden ingot]

Damn the stereotypes never wrong

[hidden ingot]

London and stab

[hidden ingot]

I know you have a knife collection
Show it

[sudden panther]

Never visit London bruh

[hidden ingot]

U r brit

[untold coyote]

Visiting London in these times?

[desert plank]

he said his dutch

[sudden panther]

I told you where i am from

[hidden ingot]

Dutch?

[sudden panther]

Correct

[hidden ingot]

😓

Your ship can fly?

[sudden panther]

oml

😭

[desert plank]

dutch=Netherlands

[hidden ingot]

Oh i see

[sudden panther]

Flying dutchman joke in 2025

[desert plank]

[wicked sedge]

Correct.
Well done and thought out deaths can make a massive impact on a story.

Death is the end all be all.

Or it should be, some don't follow that.

[desert plank]

finished i will play after my gacha dalies is finished

[vocal totem]

time blackhole

[nova fractal]

Best example being alisa or whatever that girl name was during talu past part of chapter 8 or frostnova or Faust or patriot etc

[sudden panther]

You will quit them after peakframe

[desert plank]

sure if you say so

[untold coyote]

I still didn't quit even after 1000+ hours lol

[wicked sedge]

Corporal Blake in 1917.

[nova fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867784007802421278/1417720627531616330/image0.gif

[vocal totem]

[untold coyote]

I have 10 hours in Blender. I did not achieve a thing during that time

[hidden ingot]

What is your nataruk build?

[sudden panther]

haven’t done anything w it yet

i was playing something else

[nova fractal]

Basically
Wuwa doesn't really have the balls to make the characters suffer as much as pgr nor give them the development that pgr allows nor is willing to kill phr- characters off

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-wisp-gif-24035280

[untold coyote]

PGR doesn't kill playables too

[vocal totem]

why are there so many wisp gifs when i search warframe

[untold coyote]

Wisp

[vocal totem]

[dry badge]

that gyatt tho

[untold coyote]

Cause the community likes gyatt

[vocal totem]

fair

[untold coyote]

And oppai

[dry badge]

does that make us clankers?

[hidden ingot]

But they still maintain a 50/50 lineup

[dry badge]

hold on, we in pgr sub, of course we are

[hidden ingot]

Based dev
Not go ooner route

[vocal totem]

we are in pgro we are already clankers

[dry badge]

so anyway, can anyone elaborate on the "endless grind" of wf?

[wicked sedge]

Genuinely one of the most poignant, sudden, and impactful deaths of a main character I've seen in media.

It's an unmatched masterpiece is utilizing death to deliver an ultimate and unforgettable message.

[vocal totem]

There's no end?

[untold coyote]

My Nataruk build xd

[nova fractal]

In turn they suffer

[dry badge]

the reason i stopped playing wf was there isnt anything interesting left for me to grind for. i got like kuva bramma, saryn prime, octavia prime

[untold coyote]

Well yeah

[vocal totem]

🅱️last

[hidden ingot]

Omg
Galvanized chamber is right there

[dry badge]

im not sure who or what i should try to get next, which is why i stopped playing

[nova fractal]

Wuwa barley makes them suffer

[desert plank]

damn no qiuyuan yet on eu

[heavy igloo]

@wicked sedge since the GPR is too long, I frankensteined it to become a Honey Badger

[wicked sedge]

[heavy igloo]

MK18 with a 7.5 inch is goofy at night matches

[nova fractal]

Wasn't that one guy where that one dude who relayed a call of a attack that would have wiped the team then delivered the message to the brother of the person who died that said person died

[heavy igloo]

Shoot out the lights and utilize your iron sights

[wicked sedge]

Yep.

[nova fractal]

Yt shorts works wonders

They need to stop

[heavy igloo]

Whole ahh movies on shorts

[nova fractal]

Leave me alone

I'm tired of movie clips

[wicked sedge]

Schofield lives to deliver the message to MacKenzie, and then has to deliver the news to Joseph.

[heavy igloo]

Saw a nsfw mod of Tekken on shorts

Uncensored

[wicked sedge]

The big problem of PGR is that the suffering is usually accompanied by the attempt to try and make it seem like the characters are constantly in some extreme peril.

The facade of danger continually takes precedence over the idea of suffering.

[untold coyote]

On that part, it's similiar to Hi3rd

[dry badge]

pls share

[heavy igloo]

Must have been the wind🥀

[wicked sedge]

Survival Lucem continually tries to reinforce the idea that Liv would almost certainly die.
There is a brief stint about why it would happen, but everything keeps trying to throttle you into believing "oh she's going to die".
And yet by this point it's made clear that nobody dies, so it's a bunch of nothing.

[vocal totem]

Funny. old pgr was going for hi3rd back then from what i've been told

[untold coyote]

Idk about that

[wicked sedge]

BUT WAIT!

All the "suffering" never translates to ANYTHING.

SL doesn change Liv permanently.
We don't get to hear ANYTHING about the after effects it has on her.

[vocal totem]

1000 page apology is insane

[wicked sedge]

Kowloong Metropolis Lucia magically gets her memories back for some odd reason despite everything pointing to "she'll forget it all" and that being drilled into you hard.

Pyroath just waddles in and all that's learned in typical multiverse dogshit.

[nova fractal]

I forgot how that happened in the first place
The I remember everything about the last chapter

[wicked sedge]

PGR just throws a whole lot of nothing at you constantly.

[untold coyote]

2 reasons gacha games exists: Money, and goning with double o

[wicked sedge]

Nowadays, sure.

[rough moat]

Boundaries

[wicked sedge]

But I still am grateful to GFL for spitting in that and doing its own thing.

[nova fractal]

What about gameplay

[wicked sedge]

It's extremely depressing to see how GFL2 has turned out, because it became exactly what the original fought to not be.

[untold coyote]

Ok 3 reasons

No 5 reasons

[wicked sedge]

2 COULD have been good if it greatly focused upon picking up the broken pieces and trying to put them back together again, a slow burn story that eventually resolves into an acceptance of the present situation and realization that the past must exist as it is, unable to be properly restored.

[untold coyote]

Mine gets shattered always

[wicked sedge]

A deep dive into PTSD and the effects of trauma and loss upon the psyche.

[nova fractal]

That ain't happening

Was that the original vision?

[wicked sedge]

Instead it's magical unexplained girl dogshit that just hurdurs its way through everything.

[wicked sedge]

No, but it makes sense as a follow-up concept.

[nova fractal]

Cuz I hearing a whole lotta of potential

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/madoka-magica-homura-homulily-gif-8149439082573758006

[nova fractal]

Aka sonic 06 what if type shi

[wicked sedge]

EXACTLY

[rough moat]

If there’s anything I learned

You don’t owe the gacha devs your time and money. Basically, no loyalty

Leave when you like, and don’t spend a time. But stay if your having your own fun on the game

[wicked sedge]

THERE WAS LITERALLY SO MUCH THAT COULD BE DONE WITH IT ALL AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANY OF IT.

[nova fractal]

That sonic forces type potential

[wicked sedge]

This is what FRUSTRATES me the most about Exilium.

[untold coyote]

I am certainly having my own fun lol

[wicked sedge]

Of all the paths they could have chosen, they picked the one that made literally ZERO sense.

[hidden ingot]

Hot girls

[untold coyote]

Hot girls make perfect sense

[wicked sedge]

Stop talking.

[lean summit]

What is happening with halo on Twitter

Why us government uses it for their agenda

[wicked sedge]

Let me put it this way.
Imagine if Enfield decided to go play "how large can we make this character's chest" and ignored literally every piece of characterization for a character that appeared in the previous game.

[amber wadi]

I'm a sucker for happy endings. Yeah sue me. I don't like when characters die, I don't feel like the payoff is ever worth losing a mainstay usually. When I say usually. I mean... In PGR it's such a small cast of mainstays. I wouldn't mind in WuWa if some of the cast died off as the game just feature such a huge roster already. Could care less about half the cast.

[wicked sedge]

Imagine they took Texas and dumbed her down into a bimbo.

[nova fractal]

Let me put it in perspective
Sega hyped up forces (Mica trying to release a gfl sequel) to be dark a griddy like the dark age storys of old
Drops a friendship is power ass plotline with the worst gameplay out of the boost era by far and wonders why nobody liked it (gfl2 release old player disappointment cuz it's not a very good sequel)

[hidden ingot]

Would

[nova fractal]

Iuno should have stayed dead along with phrolova

[wicked sedge]

The happy ending of GFL is that you won the war.
But the cost of it is a permanent scar on you and the world, you can rejoice in the path that countless sacrifices has paved for the salvation of the world, but you must also live with the understanding of who those sacrifices belonged to.

[amber wadi]

hell no!

those are 2 of my favorite characters

[wicked sedge]

The world ain't gonna give you a happy ending whether you try it or not.

[nova fractal]

I mean at least endfield has a excuse due to the time skip and clone shi

[hidden ingot]

Slop

[nova fractal]

They ain't
And both didn't really do shi during 2.7

[amber wadi]

I don't care, I want happy endings.

[wicked sedge]

But in a victory marked by sacrifice, one can look back with unspeakable gratitude for all that was given to take that future.

[amber wadi]

I still don't care, I want happy endings.

[dry badge]

says the guy who likes gfl2

[wicked sedge]

Well you do you.

[hidden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[wicked sedge]

But I'm sorry, it won't always work that way, this isn't a children's fairytale.

[wicked sedge]

GFL2 has a decade long time skip.

But you know what sticks around for a much longer time?

Trauma.

[hidden ingot]

Maybe the german is the good side but they lose

[wicked sedge]

What the hell does that even mean.

[hidden ingot]

[untold coyote]

This has to be one of the most savage but great examples to the flaw of the "this is not a fairy tale" logic

[wicked sedge]

If it made sense, maybe.

Reality isn't frolicking through the lilies after you fight your current financial situation.

Idk if you looked at WW2, but victory of the world was paid for in the blood of millions.

[untold coyote]

Ofc, wars are like that

[wicked sedge]

Let me ask.

[noble tangle]

i mean
no not really

i think it was pretty visible that Ploom act different to Lotus post memory wipe

[wicked sedge]

For like 5 seconds.

[noble tangle]

n-no

for basically the rest of the plot

[wicked sedge]

I took a very quick notice to how unchanged she seemed late into the next chapter.

[noble tangle]

now you can chalk that up to placebo due to apperance and expression change

but placebo or not it was visible
atleast to me

[wicked sedge]

Perspective difference?

[lean shell]

me when Robin is Lunasia Central Fiction
BAHAHAHAHA!!!

[noble tangle]

i do agree that PGR tend to be abit consequence less sometime

with the only consequence usually being NPCs dying

[wicked sedge]

Alas I do hold things in fairly high critique, there's a reason why I usually pick through things rather than smack it with a sledgehammer.

Well, till the little things add up to the larger plot problems.

[amber wadi]

This is fiction. Not real life. I don't read real life stories just for that reason.

[wicked sedge]

I should quickly go back to this.
What drives the plot of PGR?

[noble tangle]

i think one of the way PGR can raise its stake without actually making playables die is to let long time NPCs die off

like with Hans

NPCs die in PGR so often Noan was literally made as NPC bait death

[wicked sedge]

There is a point where the heroes winning every single time becomes predictable and boring.

Especially when nothing is truly lost or gained.

[nova fractal]

Difference is by the 100 time skip all characters that wasn't immortal are dead and they found the cure to the infected

[cyan frost]

i keep getting the error 10054 on warframe my chat not updating im stuck in silence this sucks

[nova fractal]

The punishing or the red tide?

[hidden ingot]

Play the game in silence bruh

[wicked sedge]

If you want to go this route, there needs to be a very, very long time of building up NPCs, but also a change in how suffering is applied to framed characters, because otherwise it's just a long form version of killing off an NPC.

[wicked sedge]

Conflict.

[cyan frost]

i need the recruitment chat to find teams during prime farm bro we need it

[wicked sedge]

Conflict drives PGR.
That conflict is a fight for survival.

A fight for survival against an enemy that seeks the total destruction of what the player and the playable characters stand for.

It's a war.

[hidden ingot]

...
Brute force your way through it

[cyan frost]

wtf man

[hidden ingot]

Rad solo like me

[wicked sedge]

That's a confusing and overly convenient solution.

[noble tangle]

well the thing is framed character pre being playables actually dont feel that much different from NPCs IMO

you never truly know who's going to be playable from the list of NPCs

[nova fractal]

That is literally roades goal

[cyan frost]

mf

[wicked sedge]

They pick and choose weirdly and inconsistently.

[cyan frost]

no wonder you suffer

[untold coyote]

"A known war criminal has been sighted."

[wicked sedge]

The more they pick, the less can happen to the overall cast.
And they keep picking up big characters.

[wicked sedge]

I meant the time skip.

[hidden ingot]

Eww slop conversation

[wicked sedge]

Doing that to wipe that slate is great...
If the remaining cast is treated with a lot of care.

[hidden ingot]

[nova fractal]

They are all infected and or mortal
How are they surviving a 100 year time skip

Especially the infected

[wicked sedge]

I never saw her as one who'd become playable, because Vonnegut always seemed more likely.

[noble tangle]

i personally thought she was gonna be an A rank eventually

[wicked sedge]

Even then, it was clear that this second batch was quite adamant on killing and not being very nuanced.

[noble tangle]

well actually the time skip happened
so maybe this time Cinderelik will be playable

[wicked sedge]

It's why my hopes for a Voodoo frame died the moment I saw any of her dialogue.

[amber wadi]

Fml... Big death spoiler for me out of nowhere... Can't you dkeep huge death spoilers to /lore

[noble tangle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[noble tangle]

OOPS

[hidden ingot]

My Warframe channel is ruined by these mf

[noble tangle]

SORRY SORRY

KADSOIADOIAODJIDJ
IT WAS A YEAR AGO SO I LET MY GUARD DOWN

look

[gaunt notch]

They should've died the moment her real appearance got revealed because we all know what gacha game devs think of characters with skin darker than a piece of printer paper

[untold coyote]

Horrendous

[noble tangle]

maybe im just baiting you

[amber wadi]

Its fine. PGR is just like 500h of reading so I haven't caught up yet xD

[noble tangle]

who knows
what if she have a fake out death
it happened before

[dry badge]

have u tried going to wf discord instead?

[hidden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/astra-yao-zen-zén-zên-less-robin-honkai-star-soundorientated-gif-7749305887737111406

[dry badge]

[hidden ingot]

Best way to play game is find friends in off topic

[wicked sedge]

I doubt I'll ever be convinced otherwise that Liv dying in Survival Lucem would have resulted in the greatest chapter of PGR, forever and ever with no contenders.

[hidden ingot]

Ppl in Warframe server is all elitist mf

[nova fractal]

Do you
Not play arknights
Or limbus
Or r99

[hidden ingot]

Just like pgr general

[wicked sedge]

Every bit of buildup, all the dialogue, all the tension...

Just let the string be cut, and let the arc play out perfectly.

In keeping her alive, they wasted an unbelievable poignant and beautiful ending that would have truly shifted the tone of everything.

[sudden panther]

the pot calling the kettle black

[untold coyote]

I don't drink coffee

[sudden panther]

[noble tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1328055095069511680/1374055544192761876/GrQwwDpWkAApHA2.gif

[wicked sedge]

The ways such an act would have affected the entirety of the game are innumerable.

And maybe, just maybe, it would make the multiverse thing more than just a shoddy piece of writing that throws literally all tension away.

Think about the realization that Lucia would have that she might be able to see Her again.

Think about the impact it could have made in that moment to get her back.

[nova fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867784007802421278/1417720627531616330/image0.gif

[rough moat]

Biology

[nova fractal]

That's a whole lotta potential

[noble tangle]

Cirl Gock

its the genius society

you think biology stop them?

[coarse dust]

Girl with glock

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-arisu-aris-blue-laser-gun-big-laser-gun-gif-24293222

[wicked sedge]

https://youtu.be/pa_Ttaj4o40

[dry badge]

i dont wanna bring hi3 into this but hi3 managed to make a supposedly dead character playable by making alt stories (no connection with the main story at all, not even in the same universe)

[wicked sedge]

This is an excellent video on death in literature and storytelling.

[coarse dust]

LIMBUS COMPANY

[rough moat]

Aris does not use a Glock, neither does Nonomi

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/don-quixote-don-quixote-limbus-don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-3532171447186389383

[nova fractal]

The only thing I can compare to what that potential of liv death was quess death in cca and it's consequences on hartaway which causes hartaway (+flash)

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ricardo-limbus-company-hair-coupons-heathcliff-armstrong-gif-10833694735068032306

[nova fractal]

The events of cca having consequences across the uc beyond cca until the late uc timeline

[hidden ingot]

Slop game talk 🥀

[wicked sedge]

Not many are gonna get your analogy.

[nova fractal]

True

Maybe watch Gundam uc timeline

Or I can give a tldr

[wicked sedge]

Obi-Wan in A New Hope is a better example since more people know Star Wars.

It's a death that hits right but also does way more to the overall trilogy and just ANH itself.

[nova fractal]

Which is axis shock cca itself and the development of nu Gundam in relation to the unicorn, banshee, and phex Gundams

[untold coyote]

Seconded

[wicked sedge]

One can also look at Braveheart for a good idea of how a death can be impactful across an entire world (or rather, story).

[nova fractal]

Superman first death?

[wicked sedge]

Gandalf, more like.

[dry badge]

inserts a certain Austrian painter name here

[wicked sedge]

That's a suicide, not a sacrifice.

[nova fractal]

There we go

[dry badge]

but suicide IS the sacrifice

[hidden ingot]

sacrifice for what?

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/creeper-gif-22466147