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[nova fractal]

That's crazy could never be my goat gege

[slim knoll]

Restricted speed

[ripe badger]

the video gets worse the more I watch it

[autumn ridge]

Why that lizard turn to a ball

It's look goofy to. Bro spin like a beyblade

[stiff sorrel]

No idea ask skirk herself 💀

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/astolfo-happy-gif-22218025

[grave lion]

lowk..

[autumn ridge]

I would to ngl

[floral imp]

@frozen silo Thanks, S-Rank or Above Ticket.

[regal holly]

Lmao skyz alt @modest torrent

[frozen silo]

damnn, nice, she is a must for fire team, me when

[floral imp]

I believe.

[zealous root]

We eatin tonight

[tacit hull]

Because since this game released its just been like this as i know tho, turned out that one kinda more popular

Why is it

Is that || yinlin||

Hoo there are two

The previous one is yinlin thats kinda looklike garnet

Im not sure which one is better for me but i started pgr first

I think you can try black beacon

One of the ex kuro dev game

[quaint garden]

Once kuso devs always kuso devs, I still find it hilarious how they managed to repeat PGR's disastrous release basically step by step with Black Beacon

I'm still waiting for PC release tho

[topaz wraith]

Don’t insult my goat, woman

[dull yacht]

oh? thats a real thing/

[zealous root]

Oh yes it is

[wicked sedge]

It's bleak.

[topaz wraith]

It looks so terrible lmao

[wicked sedge]

Didn't realize Rivals was taking the gacha approach and over-sexualizing their characters.

[topaz wraith]

Rivals? Oversexualizing

[dull yacht]

the storm skin is free

[jolly vapor]

eu channel 1 is insane 😞

[tacit hull]

Always has been

[wicked sedge]

@barren dove https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3019676071

[barren dove]

thats funny as hell lmao

[wicked sedge]

Yeah it's a schizophrenic delusional experience.

And I've gone through it in one sitting, at night...
Like a dozen times now?

[random hornet]

[quaint garden]

At least bro knows what he wants

[fiery geyser]

[valid tinsel]

I don't care for your taste , Cristoforo

[quaint garden]

Hey, at least the crit wasn't the first 2 lines, that's the one that hurts the most

[fierce galleon]

am i chopped

[nova fractal]

You have no aura with that fit

[fierce galleon]

im a bird

[nova fractal]

Can you fly

[fierce galleon]

ye

ignore the evil monster behind me

[nova fractal]

Then good

[dull yacht]

no, i dont think i will

[fierce galleon]

w fit or wut

[nova fractal]

W
Also why that mountain giant behind you tf beat it's ass

[dull yacht]

chest face is gonan smash you with his cooking shield

[valid tinsel]

There's two guys behind you

Cool drip

I got albinauric head in my first randomized run

[fierce galleon]

first try romina light work

[valid tinsel]

It's the chicken leg after all

[bright oak]

@lunar lava ||https://x.com/BlankFavs/status/1944006061666496912?t=mB2VxWKDNneGGFrM7-M7Kg&s=19||
Cook him Timi

I hate collab but that story is peak

[regal holly]

Hi kg

[opaque swan]

https://vxtwitter.com/dollfro_sop2/status/1944026165175636024

そっぷつー (@dollfro_sop2)

https://t.co/9M0L3vbRWS

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[bright oak]

hello

[nova fractal]

Oh well now it's dead

[quartz pivot]

Anyone from Europe or America here?

If there are

[quartz pivot]

Which places should I move to that have good job opportunities for a guy coming from a developing country?

That also has a pretty ok economy

[topaz wraith]

Ok gay

[compact lichen]

Literally my wallpaper what's yours?

[dusky patrol]

Simple as that

[solemn depot]

ok Finished wuwa 2.4 questline

not better than 2.2 but also not bad

7/10, music, ambience and character expressions hard carried

[dusky patrol]

Ngl i didnt expect Lupa to be a support

[solemn depot]

Really want to see this guy Scar and Christophoro being playable

Lupa is a everything

[dusky patrol]

She gives off a Dps vibes from the story

[solemn depot]

No she's everything

She's a dps she's a sub dps and she's a support

[dusky patrol]

Her Multiplier are quite low for a dps, not like she meant to be one tho

[solemn depot]

yeah because her whole point

is to be used on premium fusion team
that's where she does damage

[dusky patrol]

I guess, i use changli to begin with

[solemn depot]

her team composition is the most fun and most sweaty one

insane skill ceiling

If only Brant wasn't a little ass to use 🥀

[dusky patrol]

Premium Mono Fusion just use a LOT of quickswap

Too bad i dont have the guy

[solemn depot]

U can get like

300-400k dmg ult

with Changli with the buffs

[dusky patrol]

maybe, im stuck with using her with SK

Still, good enough to clear ToA anyway

[solemn depot]

that's the 2nd best alternative

the difference between lupa and sk is insane though

even more with that stacked weapon

destined death

https://tenor.com/view/maliketh-the-black-blade-destined-death-slash-gif-1326973735385898973

[dusky patrol]

Nah, i dont need her, changli can still Solo dps in the Toa

[jovial minnow]

https://youtu.be/oc44jC3y6bI?si=gs_UnYn-FkfMxLle

[solemn depot]

Saving everything for Phrolover

Danjin and Phrolover duo

[dusky patrol]

I might have to retire from WW for a while

[solemn depot]

Life?

[dusky patrol]

Phone's dying when i play in Septimont

[solemn depot]

I just play on weekends

[dusky patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1393251935250944144/pgr-punishing-gray-raven.gif

[solemn depot]

Oh yeah This too

Glad my phone is half decent

[dusky patrol]

The best i can get in septimont is only 15fps

[solemn depot]

i can play pgr with 120 fps just fine
Séptimont is around 30-15 fps

Wuwa optimization is just horrible don't worry

[dusky patrol]

Well, its Unreal engine we're talking about

[solemn depot]

Nah

When I started playing wuwa, the game ran so smoothly

[dusky patrol]

Its also kuro's first time using it

[solemn depot]

max graphics 60 fps

on mobile
now Its less than that

It all went downhill when Avinoleum was added

But it's ok since I'm used to low fps gaming

[dusky patrol]

Well, they always improve everytime, so the game's getting heavier is kinda expected

[solemn depot]

Right, I guess it's too much to expect PGR levels of optimization for wuwa lol

[dusky patrol]

Yeah, i cant expect much since the engine itself are way too heavy compared to unity

I mean, even Unity is heavy when used so much, take a look at Selena's ult

My FPS drops to 40 when i used her ult

[regal holly]

Well just like wolves she works better when she has team mates like a wolf pack

[dusky patrol]

I guess, if you put it like that

[regal holly]

In the pv shes also the one setting up the tempo for their team and letting albina finish them off

[solemn depot]

This is a bug

and It's probably getting fixed

next patch
unless cn version still has it

[dusky patrol]

I doubt its a bug

[solemn depot]

I reported this on #1387469946665172992
it only affects mobile players btw

So it is definitely a bug

[dusky patrol]

Nope, i also have it on PC Client

Or maybe its just my device that's old

Idk which one

[compact lichen]

Only the last frame I experienced frame drop from 60 to 30

[dusky patrol]

The Teamcomp grabs my attention more than your point

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

Why that comp

No pheeb?

No sk?

[compact lichen]

Why not

[dusky patrol]

You're free to use anyone

Its just look weird for me

[compact lichen]

Didn't build her
She eating dust

[compact lichen]

Skipped her for Zani

[solemn depot]

it's over

[nova fractal]

It's over

[dusky patrol]

Well, Rover Can be used for zani anyway

[compact lichen]

[dusky patrol]

I also use her as a teammate

[compact lichen]

Guess what

[nova fractal]

Build pheeb

[thick ridge]

Waifu>>> meta

[dusky patrol]

Yeah

You can clear ToA with any 5* anyway if they're built properly

[nova fractal]

Nah power above everything
That's what these games taught me

[compact lichen]

Correct

[thick ridge]

[dusky patrol]

[nova fractal]

Damn I'm a meta player in a sea of waifu players

[dusky patrol]

is something wrong with it

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-wolf-gif-8308069160251473616

[dusky patrol]

Its not like you're forced to be a meta player or waifu player

[compact lichen]

If you see my pgr comp you will be like wa da hillllll

[nova fractal]

No I just rather not completely struggle with my poor skill

[compact lichen]

By the way Camellya and Sanhua have the best synergy for F2p

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[dusky patrol]

So just chill, no one's gonna be mad for you being a meta player

[nova fractal]

👍

[nova fractal]

Are you casual?

[compact lichen]

Yup

[dusky patrol]

Then you dont have to mind it

[nova fractal]

Then I don't care
I'm the same guy who got lamia from Selena selector knowing she will get powercrept in 2 months

Run anything

[compact lichen]

Exactly but thinking to go full meta player next year If I manage to get most played characters like Shorekeeper, changli, xiangli yao, yinlin

[dusky patrol]

If only i can play casual on Pgr

For some reason i have this urge to follow the top meta

[dusky patrol]

Now that you mention it, Electro teams is kinda Underrated now

[nova fractal]

Following meta in pgr isn't a urge, it's a lifestyle
You crave power above all else

[compact lichen]

One question tho

Is anything above FOS Star title?
I'm confused

[dusky patrol]

wdym by above?

[nova fractal]

Yinlin needs a buff imo
Also changli hella fun with lupa

[nova fractal]

No?

[compact lichen]

I see

[dusky patrol]

This is probably the only title that i use the most

[compact lichen]

Oh

[regal holly]

The title im using rn is the one from the dmc mode

Selena's title

[nova fractal]

Oh that's how you get it
Could never be me I came back during hyperreal and especially crimson weave patches

[compact lichen]

So the FOS Star is like the final tower as Hazard Tower in WUWA right?

[dusky patrol]

I guess you can say it like that

[nova fractal]

No it's like a mode for beginners

Wait I might be wrong

[solemn depot]

thank you for reminding me to do whiwa

[dusky patrol]

I forgot that mode exist

[nova fractal]

BRO FORGOT

[solemn depot]

It's ok it's just the infinite torrents that I gotta beat

for some reason it's BS

[dusky patrol]

Meh, too lazy to do that

[dusky patrol]

I wonder when will Depth of Illusive realm will ever comeback

[solemn depot]

first team zani pheeb sk
second team cart rover sanhua

[nova fractal]

I want a rework 1st

[solemn depot]

I genuinely have no idea what's wrong

[dusky patrol]

Is cart even good in there?

I usually use Camellya and Changli in there

[solemn depot]

I don't have any other DPS also yeah she's okay

I legit got max score in everything else but this

that's why I'm confused

[nova fractal]

Yeah no fos star is not like hazard zone in wuwa

[solemn depot]

fos star is just celica class

title

[nova fractal]

To get the title you need to clear battle license

[compact lichen]

I got these

[compact lichen]

I see

[nova fractal]

So you did it already

It won't reset

[compact lichen]

Yeah

[nova fractal]

The closest comparison you can make to a endgame mode is warzone and whiwa

[compact lichen]

I see

[nova fractal]

Even then is drastically different for the most part

[dusky patrol]

The only similar part is how the battle goes

The rest are pretty much still different

[compact lichen]

Hmmm

[solemn depot]

WhiWa and Warzone are the same thing

toa is like ppc

as for the new upcoming endgame
it's probably going to need 3 teams lol

[compact lichen]

Warzone better than whiwa

NGL

[solemn depot]

Yes

WhiWa is tuff cuz u have to sweat your balls off to get a decent score

[dusky patrol]

There's another new one?

[solemn depot]

in wz u just thug it out

[solemn depot]

3.X rumored new endgame mode

[dusky patrol]

Oh 3.X

[compact lichen]

Not even that
The time penalty goes crazy

[dusky patrol]

Gonna be a while till then

[solemn depot]

that's like 5 months away

it's already july and 2.0 was on January

time flies fast bro

[nova fractal]

Pgr getting a new one?

[solemn depot]

wuwa

[dusky patrol]

Ww

[nova fractal]

?

Next patch?

[solemn depot]

it's on 3.X so it's whatever

if anything, the more astrites the better

[nova fractal]

Better be like ppc where you get skulls to rank up units edoloins

[solemn depot]

Never happening

[nova fractal]

TRUE

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-speech-bubble-gif-25852105

[solemn depot]

wuwa is a game marketed for the general public that's too used to slop and bad rewards

not saying that wuwa isn't "generous"

but wuwa will literally never have anything like that

[compact lichen]

Y'all pulling Phrolova?

[solemn depot]

Yes sir I got 0 Astrites

[solemn depot]

I got S6 Sanhua so Ig I can start saving now

I'm guaranteed though

[nova fractal]

If Brant reruns hell no I need him for lupa changli

[solemn depot]

so it's between Phrolover or Augusta

Something tells me Augusta gameplay will be crazy

[compact lichen]

[nova fractal]

Fallacy makes me scared
I was having the time of my life doing overdrive zone in toa and then fallacy showed up

[compact lichen]

I'll pull Phrolova as I have build Cantarella anyway

I don't know how good she would be in team comp but here I'm

[nova fractal]

It's speculatiated to be phrolova cantarella rocca

Basically alt camilliya

[compact lichen]

Roccia is basically NPC of Resonators

I literally do not like her gameplay

[quaint garden]

Tbh the reason WZ is better than Whiwa isn't the mode itself but the game its in and the way characters are made

[compact lichen]

FR

[quaint garden]

In PGR every character has map wide grouping in every button they press and every single ult is divided in 2 parts specifically so you can clear multiple waves

PGR characters were built do clear WZ

Because it's the sweaty endgame mode for highscores

[nova fractal]

Lotus

[quaint garden]

We don't talk about release characters, release PGR is a completely different game

Not even joking

[nova fractal]

No warzone?

No pain cage?

[quaint garden]

Release PGR was an action game, gen 2 and beyond is a rhythm game

[compact lichen]

Minimal frame drops

[nova fractal]

iPhone user

[compact lichen]

Android
S24

[dusky patrol]

Must be nice playing it smoothly

[quaint garden]

Idk what's happening but they really fkd something up with septimont

[solemn depot]

I don't see maxed graphics

[quaint garden]

It's THE ONLY place I get frame drops

[solemn depot]

play with max graphics, even in mobile it looks gorgeous

[quaint garden]

I've never had fps issues in Wuwa

[solemn depot]

you MIGHT have 15 fps but it's worth trust

[quaint garden]

Not even on day 1

[compact lichen]

Maxed graphics is only on pc and ps5

[solemn depot]

Mobile max graphics not

the pc one
just set thing to high quality lol

[solemn depot]

okay so

wuwa is weird, let me explain

you can play with ultra performance but have high specially effect quality and high resolution

and you can also play with high graphics quality and have low res and low special effects quality

tap the right button on custom until it's on high

[compact lichen]

[solemn depot]

It will add lighting, shading and stuff

Don't blame me if your phone starts overheating

[lunar lava]

Huh

[quaint garden]

I play on PC with max setting and rtx on, never lagged once even when I brute forced it on before my gpu was supported

That was until septimont

[solemn depot]

Yeah Septimont and Avinoleum have something wrong with them

[slim knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/revolver-ocelot-gaming-mgs-guns-gif-17353618

[rough moat]

12 shots

[nova fractal]

I already hate relic systems but wuwa is the most obnoxious one of them all

[solemn depot]

Yeah

[dusky patrol]

Relic?

[solemn depot]

wuwa uses echoes as relics

problem is that it's extremely unpractical

[nova fractal]

I'm a hsr player

[dusky patrol]

Oh, thats the echo in Hsr

[solemn depot]

unironically, hsr has a better relic system than wuwa

that's how bad it is

[dusky patrol]

Pretty much endgame problem, typical

[solemn depot]

in hsr u can turn relics into a lot of things
in wuwa u can't even recycle level 0 relics

[dusky patrol]

Well, they gotta limit it somehow since we can farm bosses echoes endlessly

[solemn depot]

That's the problem

[dusky patrol]

If we can use it as exp, then we can build our characters quickly

[solemn depot]

there's no limitation
your only way to grind echo exp is by grinding relics

[dusky patrol]

Iirc, Genshin and Hsr have them gated by their stamina system

So it would make sense if they can use it as exp

[solemn depot]

problem is that

[compact lichen]

Here and there frame drops
But mostly smooth

But still septimont needs optimization.

Kept the annoying settings off like Ao and anti aliasing

[solemn depot]

you will reach the relic limit

and u can't do anything about those relics

u can't recycle and turning them into the 5 data modifier is even more useless

only option is to delete

and filtering relics on wuwa also sucks balls

[dusky patrol]

Dont hsr have scrap system? To craft another in the same relic set

[solemn depot]

Yes exactly

we don't have that
it's randomized

[nova fractal]

Too many additional stats lead to too many variables when building characters

[solemn depot]

hsr has a way to control your relics
in wuwa it's random lul

[dusky patrol]

Hm, yeah i guess that would be great in here

[nova fractal]

Ie my zani even tho she has crit rate and DMG on everything will never see her best damage output due to heavy attack damage not being on all echos

[solemn depot]

that doesn't matter if she can kill everything in one or two ult cycles

assuming you have sk and pheeb

[dusky patrol]

Zani is alright with Spectro rover

She can smash anything with it

[nova fractal]

It matters when building someone like Changli or lupa or sk or Carlotta or changli

[tacit hull]

Frfr then i got heavy atk dmg bonus with a lower a double crit then my dmg is lower instead

[nova fractal]

My zani

[dusky patrol]

Maybe its just me, but i feel like Zani's HP or Def should be higher

[quaint garden]

The worst part of echoes isn't the echo farming itself, it's the fact that they're making character locked echo sets now

Which sucks balls

[dusky patrol]

She's really that thin compared to the others like Carlittle

[nova fractal]

Oh that too

[topaz wraith]

I forgot what i was about to ask

[quaint garden]

There's also the fact that ppl been asking for a substat reroll since release and what they give us? A main stat selector that can only be used on lv0 echoes, the most useless sht imaginable

[nova fractal]

Instead of making the sets lean toward a certain unit while also being for everyone they make it ONLY for that unit
Ie windward pilgrimage

[quaint garden]

That's such a fkn hoyo move but the stupid idiots will still defend it with "devs listened" which is exactly why they did it

[tacit hull]

Yeah her defense recommended from the in game char guide

[nova fractal]

I cant go back

[topaz wraith]

Wuwa makes no mistakes

[dusky patrol]

True, isnt it funny that Carlotta, with a smaller Body gets a higher Def and Hp

[quaint garden]

Imo Zani should've been a def scaling character

[nova fractal]

You mean Saint?

[quaint garden]

His community and the other people whose only reason to exist is to suck Kuro's balls

Tbh those 2 are the same thing

[dusky patrol]

Is this the Drama farmer?

[nova fractal]

No only wuwa

[nova fractal]

Yes him

[dusky patrol]

Just look at his guide, ignore his clickbait

You'll feel better ngl

[nova fractal]

I bet his guides are not helpful at all or just plan ass

[quaint garden]

Main stat selector is such a nothing burger, it's the 2nd layer of rng and you can infinitely farm for it. The only one that truly matters is substat, which is exactly why they didn't give it to us

[dusky patrol]

Well idk, i never watch WW guides anyway

[tacit hull]

Dang drama enjoyer moment then they realize game is just for fun anyway

[dusky patrol]

Ok, maybe from rexlent i do

[quaint garden]

Nah, he sucks at the game, like genuinely. Any other channel actually focused on guide making has better guides than him

[dusky patrol]

I guess you cant expect things from drama cc

[quaint garden]

There are ppl like void enigma, itssenpai, rexlent, etc. Who all have better guides

[nova fractal]

Nah we can expect something
Meat eating and that's it

[dusky patrol]

Well, i prefer to ignore those kind of cc tbh

[viral obsidian]

Good name for an NPC

[dusky patrol]

They're just making a problem for your mind

[nova fractal]

Also pywrden is terrible for building characters

Using the additional stats page of the echo screen for guides sucks and isn't clear at all

[quaint garden]

Saint is a Jiyan glazer, thinks changli is the worst limited in the game and never touched qs in his life, he's not fit for being a guide maker

[topaz wraith]

Or just don’t rely on guides, gacha players

[dusky patrol]

Prydwen strong point is only their tier list

Which is also stupid imo

[nova fractal]

CHANGLI WORST UNIT?

AFTER LEANING ON QS SOMEWHAT ESPECIALLY AFTER GETTING LUPA NAHH BROOOOO

[dusky patrol]

What Drama cc does to people

[nova fractal]

THATS JIYAN

[topaz wraith]

Well ww has like 5 ccs

[quaint garden]

Saint is a hypercarry btch, if the character isn't named jiyan it immediately sucks for him

[topaz wraith]

Most of the “ww ccs” are terrible

[dusky patrol]

I wont count drama cc as one

[nova fractal]

BRO WONT HANDLE ZANI NOR FLEUR

[topaz wraith]

I watch ww content that are either playthroughs or lore vids

[dusky patrol]

I only watch either guide, or the song.

Its a peaceful life

[topaz wraith]

I don’t watch guides for any game i play

[quaint garden]

What I find hilarious is his hypocrisy, he says changli isn't worth it because she's hard to play but glazes his jiyan double sholong rotation as being "one of the hardest cancels" (it's piss easy)

[dusky patrol]

Jiyan isnt hard to use

What do you mean

[quaint garden]

So like, he doesn't play changli cuz she's hard but does a rotation that he says is... hard???

[topaz wraith]

Kuro when they stop making auto parry attack strings will own my wallet

[dusky patrol]

Shows how bad he is at playing

I think people are sweating at the wrong game ngl

[quaint garden]

It's quite literally dash cancel his ult basic when his feet touches the ground, that's it, that's literally the "hard rotation"

[dusky patrol]

Wuwa isnt even Competitive to begin with

[topaz wraith]

Sweating at a gacha should make people rethink life

[nova fractal]

So to translate
Bro hates pyroath because her rotation is hard but loves nanami due to a very hard rotation (lying)

[nova fractal]

THATS CRAZY

[quaint garden]

That's LITERALLY it btw, there's nothing more to it

[dusky patrol]

Ok, so dodging at the right time is hard for HIM?

[nova fractal]

This the same guy who pulled huga and lighter without training or learning there kit and does and wonder why bro isn't effective

Then crash out about how inflation

[topaz wraith]

https://fxtwitter.com/northerniion_lp/status/1943987869888262562?s=61

addams family stan account🫃(librarian) (@NorthernIion_LP)

i hope these fucking idiots keep complaining, this is gonna become a 1000 ep series out of pure spite

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FxTwitter · Jul 12, 2025, 10:56 AM

[nova fractal]

LIKE GANG YOU HAVE A SKILL ISSUE

[topaz wraith]

He’s too based

[quaint garden]

It's the vro who used Miyabi against an ice res boss and said she's powercreept, I don't even play ZZZ but bro you can't make this sht up 😭

[dusky patrol]

This is purely ragebait

[nova fractal]

I HEARD ABOUT THAT
I CANT
BRO CANT KEEP DOING THEI SHI BRO CHANNEL GOTTA GO BRO SPEADS MISINFO TOO MUCH

[quaint garden]

Tbh Saint isn't the worst offender, his fans are. At least he knows exactly what he's doing and does it on purpose

And I can't blame him tbh, he's really smart for that

Easy money glitch farming stupid idiots

[dusky patrol]

This may be rude, but I think you should filter the content you see so you wont get mad at these kind of useless thing

[quaint garden]

Bro saw the opportunity to make bank and full sent it

[nova fractal]

I am
I'm trying

[quaint garden]

I don't even get mad, I already knew this community was doomed before the game released

[dusky patrol]

Tourist behaviour

It always ruins the community

[nova fractal]

Wuwa?

[quaint garden]

Tbh, can we even call them tourist when these ex genshin players are literally the target audience?

[quaint garden]

Yes

[dusky patrol]

Looking at how they cant use the characters properly, and spreading misinfo, yes?

[charred anchor]

Nobody's talking anymore, so here. A new picture.

[quaint garden]

Car

[nova fractal]

Not the regalia

Forza horizon 5?

[dusky patrol]

Cinque

[charred anchor]

Nope. BeamNG.

[wispy raft]

I wonder what will happen now that Uma Musume is popular

[quaint garden]

We already saw some of it by ppl on twitter (of course) getting mad at [insert X youtuber they dislike] playing the game and saying they've "ruined it" for them

[dusky patrol]

Everything that happens to every new gacha games

[wispy raft]

Gacha shouldn't have been mainstream

[quaint garden]

When these ppl literally didn't even knew wtf a horse girl was before the game got popular

[solemn depot]

Hey

[dusky patrol]

The game's popular, people got mad, the game's popularity slowly decreasing

[solemn depot]

personal recommendation
just don't use twitter

[wispy raft]

I don't

[dusky patrol]

Yeah, i only use twitter to look for lewd anyway

[nova fractal]

Fr

[quaint garden]

Tbh, I don't think Uma musume will suffer because it's more of a trend. It's not the type of game these people would last long on

[solemn depot]

All you need in life is YouTube, a web browser, discord (optional) and whatever your family uses to communicate with you

[nova fractal]

Imo get off of twitter

[quaint garden]

I give it a month at max

And then all of them will forget it exists

[solemn depot]

Fair enough LOL

when will there be a gacha styled game that isn't gacha and it's good

[quaint garden]

Same

[wispy raft]

I don't use twitter just coz I can find recommended art from other ppl from discord anyway

[solemn depot]

I don't cuz I have better things to do

[quaint garden]

Does Library of Ruina counts? Burning books is technically a gacha system

[solemn depot]

Erm

Just fullstop it

it's ok like erion said

gacha being popularized is bad

but it makes money for them so lol

[quaint garden]

While gacha becoming popular is bad, i think the game that popularized it is worst. Genshin is one of the worst games in the market, and one of the most predatory ones too, and it's unfortunately the one who got popular

[solemn depot]

that's how it be

[coarse dust]

Thanks to pandemic

[dusky patrol]

If there's no COVID, i bet gacha wont be as popular

[solemn depot]

nothing that can be done

[quaint garden]

If the game that popularized the model didn't have literally every terrible system imaginable at once we wouldn't be so deep in the mud

[dusky patrol]

Well, no use Crying over spilt milk anyway

[solemn depot]

it's ok there's always new games

now hop on Noita

https://tenor.com/view/noita-explosion-electricity-boom-wand-gif-19437628

[quaint garden]

https://tenor.com/view/noita-explosion-electricity-boom-wand-gif-19437628

[nova fractal]

Nah get on terraria

[solemn depot]

Same gif

[quaint garden]

Real

[solemn depot]

smart minds think alike

[solemn depot]

think like terraria but every action you take has unforeseeable consequences for the future you

also every pixel is simulated so that you can crash the game or your pc

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-its-peak-its-way-too-peak-its-honestly-more-than-peak-meme-gif-14944785001351870503

[nova fractal]

?????

[quaint garden]

Noita is a sandbox game in the most literal sense of the word

[coarse dust]

Any game recommendations 2D platformer? Like blazeblue enthrophy?

[solemn depot]

Sandbox if it was interpreted by finnish madmen

[quaint garden]

The obvious one would be Dead Cells

[solemn depot]

does it have to be just platformer

[nova fractal]

SONIC. THE. HEDGEHOG.

[solemn depot]

there's dead cells and erm hollow knight

[nova fractal]

THE GREATEST TO EVER DO IT

[coarse dust]

Already finished hollow knight 103%

[solemn depot]

do it one more time

[coarse dust]

I don't like sonic since 2013

[solemn depot]

for the vine
beat the pantheon of hallownest

silksong is near u know u want to

[nova fractal]

[dusky patrol]

Hm kinda hard to think one

[coarse dust]

Dead cells is uh, never tried it but not prefer not somehow

[dusky patrol]

Im only a fan of Hns and Racing

[solemn depot]

honestly if you want a game to play

[coarse dust]

I prefer the music

[solemn depot]

just watch maggots on YouTube playing maggot games

[coarse dust]

The only one I got right now is nine sols

[quaint garden]

Peak mentioned

[solemn depot]

so that u get the maggot knowledge of the game

[nova fractal]

Mega man then

[coarse dust]

Since Capcom being a sht to not released another megaman

[coarse dust]

I played that a lot on ps1 back then

[quaint garden]

I wish Capcom remembered that megaman exists...

[coarse dust]

Finished most of them

[coarse dust]

Residents evil, take it or leave

I usually don't have a beef on resident evil franchise, but some how now I do

[solemn depot]

want a game to play

js play uhhhhh

🤔

Battlefield 1 yeahhh

[coarse dust]

Already finish it

The campaign

[solemn depot]

multiplayer

play the multiplayer

[quaint garden]

There's this one crackhead sidescroller rpg that I really really really love called Astlibra. Most peak story ever written not even kidding. AoT wish it could have as many plot twists as Astlibra does

[coarse dust]

I hate multiplayer, my internet is just crap

[solemn depot]

Fair enough

Used to live with 1 MB/s

if u need single player games and platformer

[coarse dust]

Best I can do is teleporting with my 200ms ping

[solemn depot]

rain world

go play rain world
u sure heard of it before

[coarse dust]

Oh same type of game as ori

[solemn depot]

beautiful game 10/10

[coarse dust]

Heard of it, but I prefer hack n slash

[quaint garden]

Game made by a single japanese dude in his basement for 15 years, no programing knowlege and a bunch of stock assets and the guy still managed to cook peak

[coarse dust]

Might added that on list

[solemn depot]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-slugcat-wormgrass-gif-15746833952126675950

[coarse dust]

Ah the game that made you want to smash your keyboard

https://tenor.com/view/green-whats-your-problem-tense1983-rage-angry-gif-14541377

[quaint garden]

Im not kidding btw, go play Astlibra.

[coarse dust]

Idk what the hell is that is

[quaint garden]

.

[coarse dust]

Oh wait I remember it

I saw it on steam sale back in February

[quaint garden]

It's actual crack. It looks like crack, plays like crack, reads like crack and gets you addicted like crack

[coarse dust]

Please tell me the mc doesn't change later@quaint garden

[quaint garden]

No. It's the blond dude all the way

[coarse dust]

Because I played PSP jrpg game before, oh god they actually kill the mc and change it to cringiest one

The name is sol trigger

[quaint garden]

Nah this game like raw unfiltered anime, it has every single trope imaginable and it executes them well

[coarse dust]

Oh is a twist with another twist that added with a twist

[quaint garden]

You can definitely feel it was made by a random japanese guy in his free time

[coarse dust]

I can see why it's a crack

[quaint garden]

yup as I said before. AoT couldn't even dream of achieving this level of peak plot twist

[coarse dust]

How does it end

Good or bad end

[quaint garden]

Good end

[coarse dust]

I might recommend it to friend

Since the mf doesn't play game with bad end

[quaint garden]

But it's like a wild ride

[coarse dust]

I recommend ff15 before

[quaint garden]

This game genuinely impressed me with the amount of content it has. Every single chapter you ask yourself where tf does it end

I went in thinking it would be a 10h long game ended up with 100+

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/seen-it-marty-back-to-the-future-ive-seen-this-one-gif-5960361

Yeah that like most of JRPG game I played

[quaint garden]

The game has time travel shenanigans btw. But it's ACTUALLY LEGIT?!?!? this is the thing that impressed me the most about this game's story. it a time travel story that doesn't have plot holes

[topaz wraith]

Alright man..

[quaint garden]

And this is hard to pull of

[coarse dust]

Please don't mention about time travel, I remember that one manga about guy who time traveled to save his mother from curse

Guess the ending

||he is the father||

[random hornet]

I think you're touching the wrong grass

[quaint garden]

Btw, the music is all royalty free but this guy has insanely good taste

Like holy fk the ost is peak

[rough moat]

You ever gone out on a night drive and instead of doing 0-100km, you almost had a 2003-2025 moment?

Then again I wasn’t really in a good state of mind, a miracle that I didn’t got myself killed
(No it’s not booze, just that I was super zoned out of reality while on the road)

[quaint garden]

You have no idea what my reaction was when I heard fkn Sakuzyo in the game. And not any song, fkn Last Dance

[coarse dust]

Persona 5 is a dead cow that keep getting milked

[nova briar]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-eating-gif-25793804

[solemn depot]

not my fault that the grass wants to kill me

literally

[random hornet]

Maybe you could adopt a slugcat or something, idk.

[dusky patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-26845137

[nova fractal]

Fate hsr collab story was not good

Wtf happened

[coarse dust]

I thought people praise it

[quaint garden]

Tbh most collab stories are mid regardless of game

[dusky patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiwami-goro-majima-majima-everywhere-majima-gif-26079160

[coarse dust]

Just toss portal bullsht to other dimension and call it a day

Like that one time Geralt goes to monster Hunter world

[quaint garden]

It's hard to find a good collab story. There's like, Heaven Burns Red with Angel Beats but that's the only one I can think of (and both are written by the same guy so)

[coarse dust]

"Mmm I hate portal, I think I should get inside and let see if I could fk around and find out"

And second part of the story "oh no the portal disappears, how do I get back to my world"

https://tenor.com/view/copy-paste-paste-copy-ctrl-c-ctrl-v-gif-12913156

[nova fractal]

DMC pgr?

[quaint garden]

You just described every collab story ever written, truly. (Which is why 90% of them suck)

[nova fractal]

Nikke stellar blade story was pretty good

Maybe eva nikke but I don't remember what that was about

[quaint garden]

That one was good but same as HBR, it's the same guy who does both, which is why they have the freedom to make it better

[compact lichen]

Such a cute creature isn't it

[quaint garden]

And why they will put actual effort in it

[nova fractal]

Fate/hsr story felt cheap like there was no effort in it at all
At some point they just cut there vas and for like alot of the story they did spoke in va so

[quaint garden]

Lets hang around a bit pi

[nova fractal]

They used a NPC for the caster class instead of Gallagher

Misha (I forgot what bro was) was on the boat the entire time

[quaint garden]

Average HSR story experience then

[dull yacht]

idk why westerners are review bombing the game

[quaint garden]

Black screens and staring contests

[dull yacht]

also this guy thinks hes a kamen rider or something...just needs a helmet

[nova fractal]

They copied and pasted phainons homeland and masked it as great Britain that saber rememberd

Idk wtf was the themes at all

The plot sucked

[quaint garden]

Phainon is bri'ish confirmed?!?!?!

[nova fractal]

Skott sucked
Why did they bring bro back

Uhhh

[dusky patrol]

Wow so much for the collab

[nova fractal]

Tf was going on
Uh old otti was bezuker sucked

Bro suck as a villain

[coarse dust]

Don't you enjoy their amazing limited character pose everytime they talk?

[nova fractal]

Bro transformed into that fly enemy

[nova fractal]

FCK NO

NO ANIMATION

[dusky patrol]

Pose #3, hands on the chest

[nova fractal]

ALL THEY ADDED WAS PHAINON SWORD SLASH

[coarse dust]

Pose #4 thinking pose

Pose #2 hand on hip while the other behind head

[runic zenith]

https://fxtwitter.com/GamingonPhone/status/1943916672177647898

GamingonPhone (@GamingonPhone)

Where Winds Meet Mobile 😳

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[nova fractal]

Ngl I think I should quit hsr now but I'm in too deep

Like that was ass

[coarse dust]

I played HSR for 1.5 years and I quit no regret

Genshin 3.8 years

[tribal meadow]

too deep in to quit

[coarse dust]

Quit, is just so ass

[quaint garden]

Can't wait for Wuwa Cyberpunk collab to also be fkn disappointing
Everyone is using HSR collab ass and DMC collab good to gas up Wuwa × Cyberpunk. And we all saw what using PGR as a metric did with the anniversary

[nova fractal]

Bro I played for a year (started during 2.3) fastest fall off ever

[coarse dust]

I played day 1

[quaint garden]

If they don't give me David with sandevistan and a dodge counter based kit it's instant ass

[coarse dust]

Belobog is decent but holy crap I hate penacony second half until the end

[nova briar]

More collab slop please!

[nova fractal]

Rumors saying bro ain't even in it

[coarse dust]

Persona 5 take it or leave

[nova fractal]

Now I get this is edgerunners so no V but put David

[coarse dust]

Those leak are fake

[nova fractal]

Fck

DAMNIT

[coarse dust]

I don't know how the hell step leak managed to say there no David or sht

Because it haven't planned for most

Always remember, never read any leak that still vague

Or won't happen on next patch

Step leaker is leak rage baiter

[quaint garden]

We all know Lucy is guaranteed cuz she's their poster child cash cow even though David is the protag and this bih doesn't do sht

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sad-gif-2535225706233423604

[ancient isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918743864288890890/1393580136829288458/GvlwLqdaIAAniud.jpg?ex=687458e4&is=68730764&hm=51d4dffe586836e34e12734fa15b8dfe44392e57f88f69f0504ed53a652f6612&

[nova briar]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-silvers-old-man-tears-gif-19898148

[coarse dust]

Kachow

[nova fractal]

I'm a dumbass

[nova fractal]

She survived
That's all

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pancakes-food-breakfast-cooking-flipping-pancakes-gif-16415948

[nova fractal]

So kuro will cook during DMC and edgerunners and

[coarse dust]

Adam smash-her

[nova fractal]

She on the moon lil bro

[coarse dust]

Oh right I keep forgot about the characters name

[nova fractal]

Unless ggst does something about that she still on the moon as of 2077

[coarse dust]

I forgot the little one is rebecca

[quaint garden]

If it were me we would be getting David and Rebecca with Adam Smasher boss. Fk Lucy, this bih sucks

[nova fractal]

Bro a hater

We ain't trusting you with character selection

[coarse dust]

I like the part when David edge while running

[quaint garden]

He edged too close to the speed limit unfortunately 😔

[nova fractal]

[coarse dust]

Should have added modifications smh

Where his head flew like a rocket in speed of light

To escape adam

[nova fractal]

💀

Endfield will cook with a Xenoblade collab

[coarse dust]

It would be funny if he meet Lucy on the moon

With just head lmao

[quaint garden]

She could be either happy or sad depending on which head makes it to the moon

[nova fractal]

I swear with collabs unless we get footage I should not believe any leaks

That was embarrassing

[nova fractal]

DMC doesn't count due to pgr cn existing

And being ahead of global

[quaint garden]

PGR also has the blessing of open betas so leaks are basically non-existent

I still have no idea why they don't just do the same for Wuwa

[coarse dust]

Tencent

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anko-uguisu-yofukashi-no-uta-call-of-the-night-gif-8093192128206679647

[runic zenith]

wuwa got different publishers compared to pgr pgr is not available in all countries

[nova fractal]

LET ME TF IN NOW

HOW TO GET IN THE BETA

LET ME INNNN

[coarse dust]

Beta still not here

But there is alpha

[wispy raft]

Ya know... Tencent being a shareholder for Digital Extremes (the Warframe Devs). Now I understand why Duet Night Abyss was created.

[quaint garden]

Make a CN account

[coarse dust]

Tencent is DE shareholder?

[nova fractal]

Oh
Nvm

[wispy raft]

Yes

[coarse dust]

Oh right I forgot about Excalibur umbra prime China exclusive

[nova fractal]

So why Warframe hasn't gone to shi yet?

[quaint garden]

The beta server for PGR is CN only unfortunately

[coarse dust]

The grind is immaculate

It took 5 whole days to grind for Octavia

20% chance my ass

[nova fractal]

[wispy raft]

Because DE has been given creative freedom. Tencent does not want the hassle of community backlash if they suggest changes

[quaint garden]

You say as if they ain't getting bought as soon as there's the slightest bit of recognition
If they weren't already

[coarse dust]

Warframe also has spaghetti code

God I remember when my bike glitched

[nova fractal]

Yes sirrr

Hope wuwa has that same creative freedom

[quaint garden]

Tbh tencent hardly interfers directly with development from what I've heard.

They have way too many studios under their belt to take care of all of them

[wispy raft]

Yeah but they obviously borrowed Warframe assets and the game's code structure to create a gacha version which was Duet Night Abyss

[coarse dust]

It would be funny if Tencent bought Ubisoft for £4

[nova fractal]

That's tencent?

[wispy raft]

Afaik yes Duet Night Abyss is Tencent funded

[nova fractal]

Wait didnt they work with Activision for codm or was that netease

[coarse dust]

It probably more polished than warframe

[quaint garden]

Every game in China is funded by tencent

[nova fractal]

Crazy

[wispy raft]

Aside from Hoyoverse ofc

[quaint garden]

Tencent definitely has their contacts with mihoyo too

[coarse dust]

CCP

[nova fractal]

The government themselves are with hoyo

How fate/hsr collab story had got me

[quaint garden]

The government is with every single Chinese studio that gets big enough

Or Chinese company in general

[wispy raft]

Ya know... I still wonder where the promised Genshin anime project that would be Ufotable animated.

[quaint garden]

[coarse dust]

Don't cope

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sink-into-my-clothes-gif-27192776

[nova fractal]

Vs how the DMC collab got me fr

[coarse dust]

I would prefer coping with something like NAMI kuro game new project

[quaint garden]

Genshin anime announced since 1.X

[nova fractal]

THAT SHI NEVER HAPPENING UNTIL DEMON SLAYER ENDS

[quaint garden]

(NA)NAMI?

[wispy raft]

I'm not coping...this talk just made me remember because of the HSR Collab. I know Ufotable is busy with the Witch of the Holy Night movie.

[coarse dust]

You know, it would be funny if genshin anime has a limited movement like in the game

[nova fractal]

FCK

[quaint garden]

IT WAS ANNOUNCED BEFORE DEMON SLAYER WAS EVEN A THING

[coarse dust]

Where their mouth lip sync is also inconsistent

[nova fractal]

Yeah genshin anime ain't happening just give it to mappa I'm sure they do well

[supple smelt]

Also let’s just remember that since pretty much 75% of WuWa’s playerbase is here because of their generosity if Tencent made the game too greedy that would result in a much larger fallout that what hsr already suffered from in 3.2

[quaint garden]

The anime not happening is 99% on hoyo's side

[coarse dust]

Anyone here touching the Persona 5 gacha?

[supple smelt]

Nah I’m good

[quaint garden]

Ufotable would take that sht any day if they could

[wispy raft]

Ngl I still prefer Persona 3 over 4 and 5.

[quaint garden]

Genshin anime would make them as much bank as Demon slayer if not more

[nova fractal]

That's ok!

[coarse dust]

I think persona 5 is a great introduction for new player

[nova fractal]

I prefer p3 over 5 and especially 4 too

[coarse dust]

Or shinmigami

[nova fractal]

So hoyo basically cancelled it along with the switch port of genshin

[coarse dust]

And then there's Metaphor, who mix shinmigami tensei and persona system

[wispy raft]

Persona 3 was about mortality. Persona 5 was about accountability. So what was Persona 4 about?

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/specialist-yu-narukami-persona-persona4-persona4dancing-gif-20996036

[quaint garden]

Or they did the average hoyo tactic and it was never happening in the first place and it was all just pure marketing

[nova fractal]

Finding your true self in a sea of lies?

[quaint garden]

The only correct answer

[wispy raft]

So self reflection?

[nova fractal]

I'm deadass still in that one girls castle so idk wtf going on I did read the manga tho

[coarse dust]

Metaphor, don't be racist. You are all fkng human

[nova fractal]

Yes

[coarse dust]

Metaphor refantazio is like politics mixed with power of friendship

[wispy raft]

No wonder I find Persona 4 kinda mid

[quaint garden]

The real politics were the friends-

[nova fractal]

Moment to moment gameplay wise p5 and p4 are leagues better than p3 solely due to not having taterus

I hate taturus

I hate the abyss of time

[coarse dust]

The old P3 is terrible

[wispy raft]

Tartarus was a nice concept than P5's Mementos

[nova fractal]

The worst smt dungeon is tartarus and the abyss

[nova fractal]

Problem is that's all you do

[wispy raft]

Concept wise I like Tartarus. I just hate the grind.

[nova fractal]

Aside from school life ur going in that damn tower

[coarse dust]

P3 joker being hell boss

[nova fractal]

And for someone like me who want to finish something way sooner I feel way too drained out because of it

[coarse dust]

It remind me demifiend super boss

[supple smelt]

Hint you can set your allies to direct commands if you don’t want to deal with the ai tactics system

[nova fractal]

Lucky for the abyss I just removed difficulty by killing the reaper Early and maxing out agies level so I don't have to deal with the abyss anymore
Maxing out agies also added the befit of being allowed to use Messiah and all the personas from the main game

[coarse dust]

Ah the reaper

Everyone favorite trauma

[nova fractal]

Flat out removing difficulty aside from the party Members fights

[nova fractal]

Ik
Infact I'm doing that rn

[charred anchor]

I have returned with more pictures and stuff like this.

[coarse dust]

You should play PGR now

[charred anchor]

...

[coarse dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lee-meme-at-the-end-of-time-cease-your-existence-low-tier-firegod-punishing-gray-raven-gif-17197449370593838908

[nova fractal]

I did my dailies for today

[coarse dust]

I'm talking to the guy above me 5head

[nova fractal]

Im just wasting time

[nova fractal]

[coarse dust]

Oh I forgot fgo log in

Bye

[charred anchor]

I may or may not do just that.

Me? I'm still not on it yet.

[nova fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1388855051900031087/unknown.gif

[coarse dust]

You "may" What now?

[supple smelt]

I may post a plushie

[charred anchor]

I may procrastinate more.

Dunno, I ain't feeling like starting.

Yet.

[regal holly]

Sht was a lie

[random hornet]

@regal holly

[runic zenith]

https://x.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1943990637251952674

Faz (@ScrambledFaz)

Persona 5: The Phantom X ( China )

Summer Marian Phantom Idol announced

X · Jul 12, 2025, 11:07 AM

[coarse dust]

Guardian tales, I remember obsessed with the story. But the new UI is trash and that game lack of end game

[random hornet]

So true.

Wait, what happened to GT now?

[coarse dust]

I don't know

Last time I comeback in the last 7 month, the UI it just trash

Idk about the story because I literally just quit after seeing how the UI game state

[random hornet]

Lmao, imagine.

[finite dawn]

@coarse dust thats was ssj3 ssj4 ssj5 from AF young jijiz DB

[coarse dust]

Honestly I can't tell which direction toei and toyotaro about the story anymore

[finite dawn]

Toei is so greedy they are the reason the whole build up of daima was ruined

like goku and vegeta supposed to have just base and ssjb like in ressurection F

[coarse dust]

Toyotaro recognize that the story is a garbage that he made new manga to relieve his stress

Worse part about blue

Is just recolour

[finite dawn]

ye lmao in the movie frieza legit said "SO SUPER SAIYAN BUT BLUE HAIR DYED"

😭

[finite dawn]

its a fake new i think

[coarse dust]

Have you seen black Frieza too? Is so ass

[finite dawn]

recolor form too

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Oh well

It would be too late to cope for ssj4 lmao

[finite dawn]

i can't believe there is a stupid person in vietnam as the main page of this manga content making called hai viên bi rồng called those are good and creative form ngl man

[finite dawn]

ssj4 already become canon but it probably won't be pulled up anytime soon

[coarse dust]

Creative form my ass

[finite dawn]

ultra instinct can stack with ssj4 btw

[coarse dust]

Well the new instincts yeah

[finite dawn]

no one in the right mind thinking
base but red and ssj with blue hair dyed, base form but blinded eyes, base form with grey hair and blinded eyes is creative beside this scum https://www.youtube.com/@2vienngocrongVN

[floral imp]

All Dragon Ball chars look the same

[finite dawn]

he's known of the most hard defending over those non creative thing XD wat a failure

[coarse dust]

Guess what, vegeta gonna do ass pull on later chapter and he also go ssj4

[finite dawn]

its for plot stuff

but basiclly it going to happend but nobody know when

[coarse dust]

Next is gonna be gohan

And later every super saiyan

[finite dawn]

as currently it getting boring with the tranformation it lost it point

[coarse dust]

Yeah transformation used to be so big

[finite dawn]

though on beast form

tranformations used to be something impactful and have alot meaning

not just "YEAH I TRAIN IN SECRET" thing 😭

[coarse dust]

Ssj 2 has lot of impact on gohan

Ssj3 was shocking

[coarse dust]

Frieza black form ass pull

[finite dawn]

" I FIND A HYPERBOLIC ITMECHAMBER AND TRAIN IN THERE FOR 10 year"

remember golden frieza was the most lamest thing ever "I TRAINED for 4 month for THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I ACTUALLY TRAIN" 😭

[coarse dust]

What if Goku was betrayed and he train for 100 years

Aaah story

[finite dawn]

ssj2 was like evolution of ssj in the rage
ssj3 was the pulling out the maximum output power potential limit of super saiyan as concept

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SSJ4 that came out of nowhere

[finite dawn]

they trying so hard

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agreed on the daima being a pull on ssj4 tho

[coarse dust]

But is great how they comeback to their primitive form on SSJ4

[finite dawn]

in gt its way better its a form known of break through limit concept of super saiyan

[coarse dust]

I mean GT

[finite dawn]

are u telling the daima one ssj4 come out nowhere or gt

[coarse dust]

Super Saiyan 4 coming to their savage nature is peak

[coarse dust]

GT came out of nowhere because I didn't expect it, daima came out of nowhere because is an ass pull

[finite dawn]

yeah sometime u don't need some fancy bullsh aura and hair color and whatever "GOD CULTURE" in name just genuilly regular form which return to the root and control over it power
the saiyan race is known of 1 of the first exist in a universe so it potential might rivaling god of creature already without some fancy GOD WANNABE

[coarse dust]

Dragon ball super literally forgot the natural essence of Saiyan race

And that is savagery

Also I hate how they downgraded shenron and turn him into plastic surgery unlicensed doctor

[finite dawn]

however GT make a good point of SSJ4 because its a form of breaking through limit no one have ever witness before

[finite dawn]

yeah which is pretty sad its become a cash grab and there are animals who's still glazing it
what a shame on human race

they prefer slop and recolor over anything creative and cool :/

[coarse dust]

Don't forget Bardock

"Mm yes I'm actually good guy"

[finite dawn]

they also make bardock not being a first super saiyan anymore

[coarse dust]

"A good natured one*

[finite dawn]

the term good heart and pure heart thing got overused without any meaning

but i think in the lore of dragon ball legends

there used to have a god saiyan race which is yamoshi thing btw if u asking me if it canon yes its canon and said in first movie battle of god then mention in anime

but they did a retcon with yamoshi being first super saiyan god to first super saiyan 😭

[coarse dust]

Didn't yamoshi is just first super Saiyan?

How the hell he become super Saiyan god

Oh I think I skipped that movie

[finite dawn]

cheap ah copy wannabe ssj4

[coarse dust]

Toei just want more money

They know luffy Gear 5 is gonna be an ass

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https://tenor.com/view/goku-ssj4-vs-ômega-shenron-gif-2930414197352344778

https://tenor.com/view/kefla-vs-goku-ultra-instinct-gif-21277077

they trying so hard man

[finite dawn]

tbh its valid anyone want money however u gotta deliver a good qualitly products that anything worth the money not just a literal 💩 and expect anyone eat it chewing on it with their mouth full of it and saying "WOW THIS 💩 good"

[coarse dust]

They also trying so hard to copy Goku personalities from TF4

[finite dawn]

here in toei as big company failed to do so

[coarse dust]

Goku and vegeta personality got downgraded

[finite dawn]

what TF4 tho

[coarse dust]

Even after majin buu saga where Goku and vegeta got development

Team four star

TFS, the joke one

[finite dawn]

super are for kids they make vegeta become so soft, goku become literal dumb or u can called him the R word

[finite dawn]

ohh

[coarse dust]

TFS Goku was always dumb and vegeta is egoistical idiot

[finite dawn]

yeah

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And here we have DBS version of Goku and vegeta which is same

[finite dawn]

also i think they pretty much dumb in Z already its just that they an grown up man know when to joke and when to get serious

[coarse dust]

Goku maybe a little bit goofy but he ain't dumb and also mature back in z to kai

[finite dawn]

the great way to decresibe this

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-goku-stare-angry-gif-12805206

Goku in super be like "OH NOO MY FRIEND ARE DYING" "

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Yeah he is just the most idiot person alive now

He can't even recognize a real threat or entertainment

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Goku in Z

https://tenor.com/view/daima-ssj4-daima-xenoverse-go-goku-prowler-meme-gif-14848605251185924258

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Wrong gif

That just daima

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https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-4102428841398357704

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But I know what you mean

[finite dawn]

tbh daima feel very Z goku

like he ain't genius but he have a regular emotions of a normal person should have a face in that situation

[coarse dust]

It just nostalgia bait

[finite dawn]

i still take the bait anytime anyday tbh

cuz it feel goku than any other goku from DBS

[coarse dust]

Goku still pretty smart back then

[finite dawn]

lil bro trying act like he serious in dbs manga

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He able to analyze stuff unt Toriyama decided to turn off his brain and gave the enemy plot armor

[finite dawn]

hes definitly not smart but like he know what to do in next step everytime
like he the first person though of super saiyan grade 4 full power

[finite dawn]

😭 literally

but no i think it was toei and toyotarou thing to make goku dumb in dbs

[coarse dust]

Yeah is just stupid at this point

Dragon ball super should go unfinished than finished with a mess

[finite dawn]

they have to choose a random mortal who's saiyan saga level at best wish dragon ball then somehow not acting all suprising at all the tranformations and progress to knock both goku and vegeta in their god wanna be form

[cyan haven]

Stampy long WHAT-

[finite dawn]

all that cool aura farming in the first place went to ki blast spamming victim

like dude what the flip is this

[coarse dust]

Vegeta has this maso-chistic ability

[finite dawn]

its been 10th time they get knocked out unconsicious fainting in their godwannabe god of destruction and angel form xD by a saiyan saga fodder

[finite dawn]

good way to describe it

also its kinda funny toriyama did a little mess up in ressurection F too

he make frieza said "the lieutenant of my spaceship was at dodoria and zarbon power level" then they beat piccolo and gohan who's like after buu and battle of god

like yeah toriyama its just u forget alot of thing

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"Hey Goku already absorb God form into his base so he is million time stronger"and then there this scene

And that scene where he fight Krillin using ssb

[finite dawn]

"SSJB AND ULTRA INSTINCT WON"T BE EASIER TO COUNTER"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb-L528F6M8&t=27s he did it with androird 17

also both those scene from anime
in manga goku not allow to use any super forms againt krilin but even so his base is still too much
and goku only used ssj3 vs androird 17 in manga

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If I ever transport into Dragonball universe I would have wish to have 100000 lifespan and then convert the 90% of the life span into power, Im probably stronger than beerus

[finite dawn]

but still ssj3 is too of a stretch
then we got goku turn ssjg to beat ssj2 trunk in manga

[finite dawn]

REAL

give bro ssj4 already

[coarse dust]

And he got after all those suffering is maso-chistic ability