🚀・off-topic-lobby

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[weary blade]

@woeful mica check this

[jolly spade]

Honestly, as a budget player, Im guessing that the Arcade Anima gave a major Orb gain buff so Karenina can do her Beyblades more consistently

Because Daren is heavily reliant on Orb RNG by herself

[devout thunder]

why copium 🤔

[jolly spade]

I mean, if people got the capacity to, yes

Never said its going to go into R34 territory

[zenith hamlet]

is that ❤️ eyes

[devout thunder]

this game is already dedge for me, expect for her, indeed

[floral imp]

She is so precious.

[slow shoal]

2nd purest smile

[floral imp]

Only 2nd?

[slow shoal]

yeah
because ploom

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/gbf-granblue-fantasy-lyria-gbf-lyria-granblue-fantasy-lyria-gif-4187220742930932002

[slow shoal]

[devout thunder]

[hallow cliff]

[rigid comet]

Defenestration of Prague is cool

[young comet]

As a D&D Player, I am very familiar with this word. XD

[hallow cliff]

[rigid comet]

It happened three times too

[shrewd fossil]

bruh
did he know?

[hallow cliff]

Oh mah gah

[young comet]

Also applies with when certain women think being downright rude is how to be funny until someone calls them out on it and then they say it's a joke.

[hallow cliff]

[frigid sparrow]

Makes any sense or is worth to start from the scratch again in Star Snail?

https://tenor.com/view/stella-dan-heng-march-7th-honkai-star-rail-hsr-gif-17459138964115056195

[young comet]

Never such thing as "too late" if one is motivated and resourceful.

[slow shoal]

@woeful mica oh yeah, is Limbus update today ?

[floral imp]

It's a Hoyo game. There is no "good time to start". So just start.

[devout thunder]

basicallly 99% of twitter influencers who write something thinking is funny until they get backlash

[young comet]

In fact, the Games are kinda known for being less and less "New Player Friendly" as time passes.

[robust spear]

Can confirm, it does
Still though, I had a fully kitted out Scire anyhow, I had little doubt in victory

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[devout thunder]

you mean "It's a Hoyo game. There is no good time ever"

[frigid sparrow]

🤔, like I've been thinking because to me feels like is It's "advantageous" to start from scratch with the current patch rather than chasing resources when there's already something new going on

[young comet]

For example: You, a new Player, gets a Character that came from a new Patch. Congratulations, you have that. However, to grind for that Character, you must be at the Map that is new from the Patch your New Character came from because most likely, they need materials there.

At least that's the curse for HoYo's Games here.

[coral lagoon]

anyone play snow contaiment ?

[low ferry]

No

[young comet]

Refer to this.

#🚀・off-topic-lobby message

[devout thunder]

[frigid sparrow]

Me

[low ferry]

No gacha is truly new player friendly

You shouldn't be playing gacha to begin with

[devout thunder]

this

[young comet]

It shouldn't be.

[low ferry]

The issue lies there

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah I read... Nhe chasing resources that's it ,20 side quests in loufu before going to panacony I guess

[low ferry]

It's never a good time to start a gacha because you shouldn't play one to begin with

[devout thunder]

some will say PGR is, but they fail to say only if you're a collector, not to get good scores (anymore)

[floral imp]

No game is new player friendly

[low ferry]

I don't think anyone will say that

[jolly spade]

I played Azur Lane from scratch again....can confirm, shit's boring

[devout thunder]

no gacha is player friendly, exclude the new.

[low ferry]

True

[frigid sparrow]

So why they exist then if no one should be playing

[young comet]

Unit Powercreep is real in PGR and said Units require at least 2 Copues plus Sig Weapon. XD

[devout thunder]

some white knights will say the opposite, i bet

[low ferry]

For the same reason scams exist

[floral imp]

SSS+ Reso 3 Sig SSS+ CUB or account is bricked

[frigid sparrow]

Look I stayed 6 months away from PGR and I had no problem to fix my teams and account

[young comet]

Well, duh.

If people know the fact they're not amply rewarded for their investments, they'd stop, causing the survivability of a brand to drop. XD

[devout thunder]

which is another thing Im already tired of PGR, any wrong movement and you brick, brick brick.

[devout thunder]

sure

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-kazusa-gif-27270300

[young comet]

I am, in fact, a Bricked Account.

I just play for Story and Mid-Tier Scores.

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

Get on my level

First week account btw

[jolly spade]

I bricked instead due to wallet issues

[young comet]

Look, just because I am bricked, I at least got the bare minimum. XD

[low ferry]

Who is this brick here

[slow shoal]

damn, its bad to start pong now ?

[floral imp]

Yes.

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-brick-wall-cake-art-weird-gif-26132098

[slow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-frustrated-punch-floor-dmc-gif-17433375

[coral lagoon]

how long do you think the game will live for

[devout thunder]

"I want to do this" -> Brick
"I will get this" -> Brick
"maybe I will skip..." -> Brick
and they still wondering why PGr is dedge revenues

[floral imp]

Longer than it deserves. But they sell seggs now.

[jolly spade]

Honestly where it is? Its already there since Day 1

[young comet]

Ezra is a forced F2P yet he is among the best Commandants in Global.

I don't think it's not your fault most of the time. XD

[jolly spade]

But you asking for EOS. Not that long I presume since they made a decision that doesnt make sense

[coral lagoon]

nah it deserves to live very long we really lack harem female only gacha games

[floral imp]

PGR is just WuWa funding

[coral lagoon]

"its already there since day 1" what you mean ?

[frigid sparrow]

Not kidding, but I'm not like the others to that have almost all the A rank on SSS+

[devout thunder]

he has no life, but yeah, you have a point

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

If only they were well written. Also MC is just an douchebag.

[jolly spade]

It was never famous to begin with

[low ferry]

Small revenue moment

[young comet]

Whatever you say... XD

[jolly spade]

Really? The way I see it we have too much instead

[frigid sparrow]

Since the game entered in the full fan service mode , 4 years or more

[devout thunder]

well, PGR was good while it last for me. Ppl here in offtopic is nice to talk at least

[jolly spade]

But actually enjoyable to some extent unlike Genshin lmao

[coral lagoon]

yea where lol there is only like snow on pc Nikke dosnt count since its just depression

[young comet]

Genshin is just a very expensive interactive novel. XD

[floral imp]

I'm nice to talk to?

[devout thunder]

you ma sensei

[coral lagoon]

Well yes it never was so i asked for assumed live span of it

[jolly spade]

Bro hasnt seen Kics or inquo

[floral imp]

🫂

[coral lagoon]

ech read first few chapter he is fine so far

[low ferry]

kics and inquo are nice

[young comet]

Real. XD

[devout thunder]

Kics is weird, Inquo is 2x weird, but ok even so

[low ferry]

They just wierd

[floral imp]

Just wait until later. Or even current event story.

[jolly spade]

The starting chapters are boring

[coral lagoon]

ech worth to kill time for other games i guess

[jolly spade]

And there are barely any likeable charas on launch

[leaden stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=_fGPu-Oo18I
this is kinda funny

most of it is Showa and Heisei, Neo Heisei is full of eng

[jolly spade]

A-MAA-ZOOOOON
Blud hasnt even started lmao

[leaden stag]

I mean, It is an English word

[floral imp]

MC will devolve into:

• You are female? Time to flirt regardless of circumstances.
• You are a male? Go fuck yourself. I hate your guts. I have no reason to talk to you seriously.

[leaden stag]

Just to be on the same foot; what game are you talking about Cregath?

[floral imp]

Snowbreak

[jolly spade]

Coming back to this, the only likeable people on launch were.....Fritia, Fenny, Acacia (at that time) and.......thats bout it

[leaden stag]

Ah...

Funny enough I onced played this game called caligula effect

[jolly spade]

Wednesday isnt even interesting especially when we have a 10-year old manga that finished

[leaden stag]

and in the enhanced edition there was this girl who would non-stop flirt with ya if you were femc

[young comet]

I am not sure if Male MC is treated like this.

[jolly spade]

Yknow, the one with giants

[leaden stag]

but Male she would be somewhat scared before getting along

[floral imp]

What? This is Snowbreak MC's behaviour.

[jolly spade]

But still, Adjutant is like every gacha MC

[young comet]

Feels like you're exaggerating, is what I'm saying.

[jolly spade]

The kindness tolerance can only go so far yo

[floral imp]

I wish I was.

[slow shoal]

[young comet]

I understand indifference but not to a level of borderline hostility.

[frigid sparrow]

@coral lagoon
A Korean release was published by BILIBILI HK for Korea on July 15th, 2020. The English release had a first version also published by BILIBILI HK on July 6th, 2021 on the App Store, with the second and official version released on September 9th, 2021.

Seasun previous game "girl café gun" lasted almost 4 years without being known among the gacha community, so snowbreak will last longer

[floral imp]

He is hostile to anyone with a sausage.

[leaden stag]

I remember playig it

it was alright, I think I found out about the twist about in a month

so I kinda lost interest

[slow shoal]

wait what

[young comet]

Ah, you're referring to a specific Character.

That, I get. XD

[coral lagoon]

based

[floral imp]

I'm talking about Snowbreak's main character. I made it pretty clear I think from the start.

[frigid sparrow]

I played for a Year same writing as snowbreak so yeah feels meaningless at times , the only good part was in the date sim where you run a café with the girls

[coral lagoon]

and en can be killed of ealier then that,well atleast its gonna kill time until other gacha games come out

[leaden stag]

I see. That and I kinda did like how the mc had a back and forth with the girls

[slow shoal]

damn, the male MC literally is the self reflection of the fans

[leaden stag]

though I would later play Alchemy Stars who did the Mc thing way more fun

[floral imp]

Snowbreak's writing is on the level of an elementary schooler's.
They are afraid of doing anything noteworthy in the story, so it stagnates.
Gameplay is OK I guess. It doesn't make you feel like you want to just go sleep instead.
The good thing is that the character models look good. Also the skins are very seggs.
That's about it for the game.

But I guess devs are based for embracing the degen. A good while back they removed every male Logistics character too (these are like Memories in PGR) and will replace them with females too.

[frigid sparrow]

Alquemistars MC is basically a slave with a (useless )dragon Gundam

[young comet]

How I find it odd to see very different treatments to a Player Character from an early Story Character, though.

[leaden stag]

Idk, he is far more invloved in the events and later chapterss but you make a good point. The ship for the most part just gets him in trouble and he can't really protect himself; so he always has to be accompanied by someone

[coral lagoon]

massive W for waifu wants i found most gacha stories from mid to bad anyway

[leaden stag]

So yeah, First impressions wise, he doesn't have the most Stellar

[devout thunder]

@floral imp
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[floral imp]

Early story MC just kind of existed with a plot device in his head.
In current event he has strong reactions to anything and everything.
Which would be nice if there was any progression to make this change reasonable. Instead it's just a switch being flipped. Changed from 1 moment to the other.

[jolly spade]

You say that, yet stories are indeed an important factor in a chara

[floral imp]

I guess you can buy her as a fig if she is not added to the game for another year.

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah again he's a slave that can w.ake up EVAS and let's the games begin

[jolly spade]

I wanna give kudos to Hoyo fans this time because more peeps there want Firefly instead of Robin

[leaden stag]

Touche

[young comet]

Jeez, handling of MC is as poor as Honkai Impact Part 1's. XD

[jolly spade]

Sure Firefly's busted but what did Robin even do?

[slow shoal]

EVAS ?
that's the giant bossess name right ?

[leaden stag]

Yeah, while some would argue she was kinda forced up your face, but they made everyone be invested in her

[devout thunder]

deim
but yeah, Erika has a very nice design compared to Kirara, fr

[leaden stag]

No, he's just calling them that. Each of the ships had a different name and AI. Ours was Soriz

[young comet]

It's always the newer girls that talk to you. XD

[floral imp]

Robin is

[frigid sparrow]

The soundtrack is PEAK

[leaden stag]

Perhaps, but looks wise, Robin would be argued to stand out a lot more and be prettier

but again, she only played a vital role in this patch

[slow shoal]

I see

[leaden stag]

While FF is what starts 2.0, Is the main focus of 2.1 and is a major player in 2.2

[jolly spade]

Firefly impacts the whole story as a Stellaron Hunter instead

[frigid sparrow]

Ah something I still not sure

[leaden stag]

So you can see how just being there in the story made people want to pull her

[leaden stag]

Agreed on that

[floral imp]

Did the story progress any? I stopped right before Goldie release.

[devout thunder]

BROHHHHHHH

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#ブルアカ

Twitter · May 9, 2024, 5:45 AM

[floral imp]

Have you watched it?

[leaden stag]

yes, currently it should be on arc 3. both your main collegues Carleen and Vice got massive upgrades; and most of the political parties got changed

[devout thunder]

yes

[leaden stag]

Mostly due to your involvement in helping them defeat the Esclipsites and uniting them

[frigid sparrow]

Oh no I'm a child soldier and now I'm a grown ass up what should I do, oh the pain

[leaden stag]

The only L is again....your protagonist cant becomee stronger

[coral lagoon]

I mean you wrote what you dont like about the mc i myself would like that so its a matter of opinion, i read first few chapters from what i read even if it is kinda mid and goes through usual tropes it goes for every gacha game, i enjoyed mc even in first few chapter that hug was some good stuff even if cliche, its a good cliche, and pandering is what people come to this game for. I played multiple gachas all of them have their bad points i for one dont like the star rail story even tho its high budget

[devout thunder]

hater

[leaden stag]

He is smart, and somewhat athletic, but he can't properly fight. He's pretty much a diplomat in that sense

[leaden stag]

Tbf, Child Soldier trope has been done to death

Hence I can get Tia's apathy

[floral imp]

I wish they'd release a PC client not locked behind DMM. I few months ago I grabbed it again on emulator, but gave up, because it ran like shit.

[jolly spade]

They be done good sometimes, but yea, having underage soldiers be common

[leaden stag]

Agreed; but considering most people play it on phones and not emulators, not much to encourage making a native pc client

[jolly spade]

Like this

[leaden stag]

Ik it sounds wrong but even how they get out of their slump is always the same

a kind idealistic person gives them hope

[frigid sparrow]

I play here and there the godamn game , it's just funny how you treat a basic plot as if was something more deep than my cup of coffee

[devout thunder]

ppl play gachas on PC, not mobile?

[leaden stag]

So while I won't fault BA execution

[leaden stag]

PGR and HSR

[jolly spade]

More people love the PC

[devout thunder]

[jolly spade]

Im a mobile man

[slow shoal]

my phone can't handle most gacha

[floral imp]

I only play on PC.

[leaden stag]

Don't worry, Least crossplay exist

[leaden stag]

Most of the tropes are cliched

[devout thunder]

I mean, mobile is good because you can play anywhere

[coral lagoon]

my phone is cursed and the internet coneection dies and reconnects every second so i cant stably play gacha ona phone

[frigid sparrow]

That's the future

[leaden stag]

True, but nt everyone has phones built for gaming. Some have ones just for communication and getting work done

[jolly spade]

Even today there's always that feeling that PriConne wins out against BA when it comes to charas on my end

[floral imp]

I have my phone to make calls and send messages.
Also mobile games are kinda bad, so on PC I can play multiple at once.

[jolly spade]

Like.....PriConne executed their characters better on some ends

Especially with how they run their charas

[floral imp]

Damn, Priconne is executing their characters?

[jolly spade]

It just feels.....more natural?

[leaden stag]

I'd agree too, since They all made me more interested in them; but with the Clusterfluck of Crunchyroll, the Cultural Zeighest of the wholesome Sol gacha with a dark story is now occupied by Blue Archive

[jolly spade]

The other meaning of execution, bud

[leaden stag]

Yeah, the events always center on 2 girls max

and each month has 2 events

[frigid sparrow]

Ah my cellphone did that with solo leveling, I uninstalled

[slow shoal]

I just play single player game in my phone tbh

[devout thunder]

I shall skip her again

[leaden stag]

poor hamster

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-yukari-hyakkaryouran-yukari-kuru-kuru-gif-16086181394692549171

How can you skip that smile?

[devout thunder]

nuhhhhhhh

[frigid sparrow]

Kasumi got a sister?

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-yukari-gif-2737538359470477642

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-yukari-yukari-kadenokouji-yukari-gif-14735027342013716431

[leaden stag]

What game btw?

[frigid sparrow]

I'm terrified how she looks ... Normal

[devout thunder]

deim you Cregath

[leaden stag]

As in no bestial or demonic horns?

[devout thunder]

hater

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/hayase-yuuka-blue-archive-desk-slam-anger-gif-9924102004262469214

[leaden stag]

Ah, I cn agree

[frigid sparrow]

I love you too

[leaden stag]

Without the halo, she looks very normal

[devout thunder]

[hallow cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/kikyou-blue-archive-dangle-cat-girl-anime-cat-girl-gif-6970605155588775562

[frigid sparrow]

Ah yes there's Hatsune Miku

[devout thunder]

she is green tag, so I shall get and max her

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

How?

[devout thunder]

wha

[frigid sparrow]

Kek

Joking

[devout thunder]

BRICK ARCHIVE with Kazusa

[floral imp]

What brick? She is BiS on Greg.

[devout thunder]

ok, semi brick

I shall break my desk with this 100kg
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[leaden stag]

Time to test your handimanskills

[floral imp]

How much is that?

[devout thunder]

oh, lemme check

[floral imp]

I thought you actually buying it.

[leaden stag]

Night time?

[slow shoal]

funny dog

[frigid sparrow]

Chitsu + puddle

[slow shoal]

Why tf my internet become fast after a blackout

[devout thunder]

its 18,900yean, about USD120, hmmm...

[frigid sparrow]

Because there's no much people using it

[coral lagoon]

based does it cost as much as a car tho

[slow shoal]

Oh yeah, it become slow again

[frigid sparrow]

Kek

[coral lagoon]

idk nerihbour not yoinking you connection anymore

[slow shoal]

I use cellular data

[devout thunder]

test my urge to pull every student

[frigid sparrow]

I wish a car costed 120 dols

[random hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/hampter-florp-hampter-my-beloved-locket-ultrakill-gif-26879791

[leaden stag]

you sure she won't prevent you from pulling for anyone who might be her rival?

[frigid sparrow]

What

[devout thunder]

wdym?

[leaden stag]

You know, she and Aoi are kinda the treaasurer making sure you don't spend too much of your "money". So the joke is if you buy her, she's gonna hard caap your spendings even more

[frigid sparrow]

????

[devout thunder]

ahhh, ok ok, I see

so Im already fkd because I pulled Yuuka Track

[leaden stag]

Hahaha...let's hope Yuuka Track fights with the figurine yuuka, allowing you a clean escape then

[devout thunder]

but man, that Sitting Yuuka figure is so nice

[leaden stag]

Well, if you think you won't regret spending some disposable income on something you think is nice, why not go for it?

[devout thunder]

you mean the pulls or the figure? But yeah, I just manage my own limit of gacha spending per month. That is why I normally carefully choose what I will pull in BA

[leaden stag]

the latter; since you mentioned the price of it being 120 USD; So I assume you were pondering if you wanted to get it or not

Though It's good to hear you also limit your spending on gachas

[devout thunder]

well, figure is not in my gacha budget, but still is something to think about to buy

[leaden stag]

Do you think you could pay a bit to reserve it?

Since im not well-versed in popularity of BA chars but Yuuka is one of the more popular ones no?

Since she's the starting l2d girl?

[devout thunder]

you have a point, I didnt even know about reserving it 🤔

[leaden stag]

Only issue is if you reserve but never buy it, it's kinda a waste of money since you won't get your deposit back. at least, from how I understand things.

[devout thunder]

well, it is not a top priority, actually I only have 1 figure which is Kancolle Yamato Nendoroid.

[devout thunder]

🤔

[toxic sonnet]

Guys how you do this level???

[leaden stag]

Oh, Yamato

[devout thunder]

I like her a lot, never played the game, tho.

[leaden stag]

as stated reset it and arrange so the only orbs are red red yellow

[leaden stag]

I believe that is most people. Just like Touhou, the Doujin Scene is enormous

[toxic sonnet]

I already did it like 6 times so the same

[leaden stag]

but the game itself is uh...Let's say niche

Cause Kancolle is a very....

Well, if you like logistics, you will enjoy it

but I don't, so the appeal of the game is lost on me

outside of collecting Shipgirls

[leaden stag]

That's odd. Perhaps you could try asking in #📨・meta-help ?

[devout thunder]

looks like. I "played" AL for years. But yeah, just play for collection becomes too boring

[leaden stag]

Yeah...Cause don't get me wrong. Each of them do look nice and are fun to heaar their voice lines, but you'll alwayss use the same 2-3 set of ships

and sometimes subs

So there isnt much variety in spite of the plethora of ships

[devout thunder]

well, the premise of the game like AL or KC is already "huh?", lul. But yeah, was fun collecting waifus

[rigid comet]

Yamato is Best Girl indeed

[leaden stag]

Touche. Still, AL has that Danmaku like gameplay

which I think is easier to see why people would like imo compared to KC logistics based

But what do I know, Footbal Manager is popular af

So maybe spreadsheet games are popular, just not as widely talked about.

[meager pewter]

We always Touhou in AL

[rigid comet]

AL's "gameplay" is meh. I played KC longer than AL honestly. Though yeah, KC definitely isn't for everyone

[leaden stag]

I see. I apologize if I offended you though, calling it a logistics game

[rigid comet]

AL's appeal is their L2D

[leaden stag]

100%

The gacha-ing for the chars is easy. But the skins are the real moneymakers

borderline softcore at times

[devout thunder]

I like shmup games, but AL still is weird to control compared to for example Ikaruga

[leaden stag]

I believe side scrolling bullet hells are pretty rare

[rigid comet]

I mean you're not wrong. KC is somewhat of a fleet management sim. It's just that KC is more immersive for the Admiral experience than AL, you know what I mean? Though the mechanics definitely isn't for everyone. AL is fun when you don't have anything better to do though. Taihou's design is amazing

[devout thunder]

they know the fanbase very well

[leaden stag]

only the early touhou games were like that; the rest are proper danmakus

[leaden stag]

Ah, so if you want to feel like a proper strategist who plans everything for a successful operation, KC is for you. but if you want a more involved hands on experience, AL is better?

[leaden stag]

Just in case you're curious, look up Implacable on the wiki

Like Lindow's point of it being over the top isn't wrong

[devout thunder]

oh well, AL was chill as how I like gachas, but without any other reason except to get waifus, I lost interest after years playing.

[leaden stag]

Which one?

[leaden stag]

I see, I don't think its so bad. Least you had your fun

Its naturally to after a while just had enough and say " I had my fill".

[rigid comet]

Something like that I guess. In KC, you actually can lose your ships if you don't pull back after they are heavily damaged and then sunk. Lost my first Hibiki that way. KC gave me a lot of memorable moments lol. Honestly, KC should have released their Arcade version on mobile or PC. Way better shipgirl game than their competitors.

[devout thunder]

yes, basically, like now with PGR.

[leaden stag]

Agreed; Had they not went vita and arcade mode, the ip would be more mainstream

[leaden stag]

I see

[rigid comet]

KC Taihou for the historical shipgirl design and AL Taihou for the hot waifu design AL Taihou is a jackpot lol

[devout thunder]

imagine perma death in gacha, who was the genius behind this concept?

[leaden stag]

I see; I shall salute you then oh Shikikan/Teitoku of Culture

[leaden stag]

TBF, Kancolle isnt a gacha

[devout thunder]

[leaden stag]

Yes there is rng in building the ships, but there isnt really real money to "gacha" the ships

so in theory, if you were good at amassing resources, you could "gacha" till you get the ship you want

[rigid comet]

KC is not interested in growing bigger weirdly enough. They are a cultural phenomenon in Japan though, to the point that the JMSDF even put posters of KC characters on their ships. They also have a lot of RL events in Japan. A shame really

[leaden stag]

Well, I suppose it's fine in a way. No need to grow too big and deflate. Better to keep a modest but dedicated fanbase. After all, had it not been for twitter, the game would only be alive for a year and exclusively for ship otakus.

[rigid comet]

I know right? It made the stakes real tho. The currency in KC replenished by itself anyway. You lost your time and investment into the sunk ships tho Again, KC is more immersive but not for everyone

[rigid comet]

Exactly lol. KC Yamato will always be my number 1 Shipgirl waifu though

[devout thunder]

I see

[leaden stag]

Well considering AL version is taking donkey years, I agree that Kantai Collection Yamato is the no.1 Yamato ever.

[devout thunder]

Meanwhile when I saw AL Musashi.... WTF UGH

[leaden stag]

Idk, they were going for a gyaru glasses girl

but personality wise, I preefer KC Musashi

compred to the looking down AL one has

[devout thunder]

Musashi in KC looks powerfull, in AL is just another mommy waifu

[leaden stag]

Who looks like Raiden

as many havee pointed but slipped my mine

https://tenor.com/view/musashi-azur-musashi77-star-raiden-endlss-musashi-gif-3030661941857517811

[rigid comet]

Even if the AL version came out the Kancolle version will still be my definitive version of Battleship Yamato as a shipgirl lol. Same case for Musashi. AL Musashi is basically a Raiden Shogun expy but KC Musashi is the shipgirl version of Yamato-class Battleship Musashi for me.

[leaden stag]

https://tenor.com/view/baal-raiden-shogun-electro-archon-genshin-impact-burst-gif-22453979

[devout thunder]

the pain, waht they did to Musashi

[leaden stag]

Amen. If AL is a char with the same name, the KC is a proper tribute to the real life ship, warts and all.

[leaden stag]

Well, you and me both know the answer. Say it with me

Segs Sells

[devout thunder]

[leaden stag]

Also Sakura Empire for some reason is the land of Horns and kemonomimi

So they Kinda Have to do that

[rigid comet]

AL Musashi came out not long after the release of Raiden Shogun. DISH is a great artist but his shipgirl designs is catastrophic

[leaden stag]

How so? They look too much like Mechas?

[leaden stag]

About abit after a year yes

[rigid comet]

Too much waifu factors and not enough ship factors

[devout thunder]

fr, he is talented, but I didnt like his Musashi, but yeah, Im bias because I was expecting something like in KC

[leaden stag]

Yeah....I don't really see the ship part if I'm being honest

Like yes it looks gorgeous, but without context

[devout thunder]

[leaden stag]

I say this is a char from Xenosaga or something

At least KC Musashi has her ship hulls

[rigid comet]

See what I mean? The rigging and the character herself is catastrophic as a shipgirl design. As a kitsune girl, AL Musashi is amazing. As a shipgirl? Catastrophic.

[devout thunder]

I love this design, simple yet effective

[leaden stag]

Yeah, I very much see and agree to your pont

[leaden stag]

Also the glasses are nice

To the White Kitsune who said Glasses are versatile

You were a genius sent by the heavens

If anyone needs context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWVt0YnSYEY Well this exist too,

[rigid comet]

KC Musashi's tan is because the IRL Musashi used dark paint to camouflage herself before her sinking. It's not just because the artist want to make her a gyaru-like character

[leaden stag]

ooh, mb

I thought it had something to do with where she was loacted

causing her to darken due to the heat tearing the paint

[meager pewter]

The ship is camouflaged for nighttime

[leaden stag]

I see

[rigid comet]

Some say it's also to differentiate her from Yamato

[leaden stag]

Hmm, thats an interesting method

Cause we have Kaga and Akagi

who outside their colours and personality look rather similar

[meager pewter]

But isn’t Yamato bigger than Musashi like ridiculously big

[devout thunder]

[versed badge]

tfw kancolle musashi is more lood than azur lane musashi

then you have iowa

[leaden stag]

I think its due to the Shirashi bindings vs AL loose yukata

[leaden stag]

Wasn't she intentionally deisnged to be an american cheerleader stereotype?

[rigid comet]

Same class of ships. Musashi is technically stronger since she incorporated improvements from Yamato's design that were discovered during and after Yamato's construction.

[leaden stag]

Hence the judicious use of English?

[devout thunder]

oh, Musahi nendoroid is also nice. Also nice canons

[leaden stag]

But as the flagship of japan, Yamato was the jewel?

[leaden stag]

Looks pretty balanced

[rigid comet]

KC Iowa is amazing lol. To the point that USS Iowa veterans said that if Kancolle existed back in the 1980s, stickers of her would be found in lots of place in the ship

[meager pewter]

That’s why Essex class Carriers see it as big target the ship is so big that the American aircrafts have easier time to attack it

[slim knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-gif-19045166

[leaden stag]

I see

[leaden stag]

Are you okay?

[slim knoll]

I AM OKAY!!!!

[leaden stag]

Very Well.

[rigid comet]

Yup. Also because Yamato have the ancient name of Japan. So she does have a special position in the IJN

[dull estuary]

https://twitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1788431004786630836
https://twitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1788439508280803653

HB ✧ (@Heartbreak_Juan) on X

Unwanted Visitor

Twitter · May 9, 2024, 4:49 AM

HB ✧ (@Heartbreak_Juan) on X

this shit keeps happening man

Twitter · May 9, 2024, 5:23 AM

[rigid comet]

It's getting late for me. Adios

[leaden stag]

Right, forgot about that

[versed badge]

yeah, also it's most definitely not the first time kancolle got a seal of approval from actual ship vets

[leaden stag]

https://twitter.com/oshiruco_212048/status/1643931974804062210
as a reward fr being okay

おしるこ (@oshiruco_212048) on X

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[devout thunder]

[leaden stag]

Goodnight

and thank you for telling me about Kancolle's history

[devout thunder]

cya

[versed badge]

yahagi was approved by a veteran sailor who used to served on the real yahagi iirc, even going as far as saying that she'd be a good girl

[rigid comet]

The survivor of Yahagi said that her KC design looks like a nice and good girl. A good sign for the character design IMO

[versed badge]

great minds think alike

[leaden stag]

Aagain, what game is this?

[rigid comet]

Bye for real tho

[leaden stag]

Hasta la vista Odysseus

[rigid comet]

You're welcome

[versed badge]

i've yet to see an azur lane design being approved by people who actually served on said ships (granted, most of them are gone now but there's still alot of iowa, new jersey, wisconsin, missouri and lexington veterans out in the wild)

[leaden stag]

Tbf, that and I dont think Manjuu are located in Japan

So due to that, the vets are...less privy

[versed badge]

also dating back to the vietnam are some veterans who served on essex classes

[devout thunder]

this is beautiful to see

[leaden stag]

and 2nd, AL is not as popular in Japan for obvious reasons

[versed badge]

kancolle is still the dominant game in japan for alot of reasons

[devout thunder]

Manjuu is CN or TW, not JP for sure.

[leaden stag]

One could argue due it only being for its local market, AL boomed internationally

[leaden stag]

I believe currentl they're in TW but formerly I am unsure

[versed badge]

azur lane really underestimated kancolle's popularity in japan due to its touhou-like status over there

[leaden stag]

Well yeah, plenty of ship otakus is one

[leaden stag]

Tbf, its not its Fault

Some things just happen

[versed badge]

and also because kancolle has backing from the JMSDF themselves

[leaden stag]

Why do I say that?

What came out 3 years ago?

And almost overtook Touhou as the 2nd largest doujin sold in the doujin market?

[versed badge]

tbh for awhile, kancolle and touhou doujins were dominating the market back then

[leaden stag]

So its naturally it would slowly go down after decades?

[versed badge]

presumably so

though i noticed blue archive doujins are seeing a massive rise in popularity recently

despite not being an IP originating from japan

[leaden stag]

Yeah, The Bunny girls helped get a foothold

and Hina and the other girls well...

The story certainly helped a lot

[versed badge]

blue archive is like a passion project in a way

[leaden stag]

With how fevorous the devs are, I believe you

I just wish the hostility towrds it would die down

I might not enjoy the game itself, but the disgust over it being a "canny" game kinda irks me a bit

[versed badge]

i think alot of people see BA in the wrong light because of their age

because they explicitly state how old they are, which puts alot of people off when they first see it

i've been there but then i kinda just forgot about it

[leaden stag]

I see. Idk, Its like a good chunk of the girls look their age

but people hyperfocus on the girls who look small

andd seem to think all the girls are like that

[versed badge]

yeah, but honestly tho

your average BA player knows the boundaries between what's real and what isnt

[leaden stag]

True, they're fun to see how they react

It's just the haters that are annoying

[devout thunder]

Yall, Wanshi is out of the Shackles of not being playable in S variant

[versed badge]

actually bad people are usually kept out of the community anyway

[leaden stag]

We know, he was announced at the start of the year

But please don't release any art of him or anything, it's still CBT.

[devout thunder]

Who wants to discuss in private?

[leaden stag]

True, but they seem to have a habit of still staying despite not liking it at all

[devout thunder]

the girl i like.

[versed badge]

unpopular opinion but i dont like femseis for alot of reason

[devout thunder]

Mentally ill?

[leaden stag]

Since they try to make the femsei too degen and way Bigger than the girls?

[versed badge]

manipulative i think

[leaden stag]

Not ill, but more apathetic to everything

She's not a bad person however

[versed badge]

not really, it's the vibe most of them give off that i dont like, and the fact that they're more open about their fetishes than normal senseis

[devout thunder]

nah, just assassin girls, thhat can fight with me

[leaden stag]

Like, taking it too seriously, instead of being a chill Sensei, they're former assassins, military, etc.?

But yeah the degen part I do find funny; You'd think itd be the male senseis acting like hounds but its the opposite

[versed badge]

not like that, not in a sense of trying to be a badass, but just overall what they wanted to do with the students in general

[leaden stag]

Most of them seem to have a romantic-like relationship with the students far more than thee male ones?

[versed badge]

being violated, wanting them to do "things" to them, etc

[versed badge]

yeah

[leaden stag]

AH...

I can...understand your logic now

Like H-doujins are one thing, we can safely ignore those

[versed badge]

basically that, it just terrifies me that people dont mind this type of behaviour

[leaden stag]

but most of the female sensei's ones do feel a bit forgive the word "groominglike"

[versed badge]

i dont mind having a female sensei in the community, it's the vibe they give off that just isnt it

[leaden stag]

Idk, Ik its fiction so we can just ignore that

but some stuff you just dont like

[versed badge]

yeah, it's fiction like you said

[leaden stag]

even if you know it isn't real

[versed badge]

but it's just so weird to me how femseis are perhaps even more degenerate than senseis

[leaden stag]

Oh well, let's chalk it up to artists just havig fun that the male sensei is actually a good and kind person while the non-canon female one is the one who got barred from getting close to her students.

[versed badge]

like, everyone in the community has their moments, like licking iori's feet and among other things

but jeez, femseis are just on another level of crazy

[leaden stag]

Hahaha yeah; think its best we don't try to understand the artists

after all, Artists are a special blend of madness

[versed badge]

honestly, i would pass out if i try to read their mind like black swan

[leaden stag]

Yeah, We all think being able to read people's memory or look into their past is awesome

but you really need a strong will to not even crack in the first place

[versed badge]

yeah, in a way, because once you know how to draw, you basically let your imagination run wild

[leaden stag]

That and their ultimate enemy is "perfection"

Not to demean a lot of artists, but many have a hard time with that

They would focus too much on things the layman might not even appreciate

[versed badge]

some artists have their flaws, so understandable

[meager pewter]

That’s when OCD comes to the table at full strength

[leaden stag]

OCD and being an artist, perfect combo for not getting things done

[meager pewter]

The perfectionism is real

[versed badge]

trying to get everything perfect isnt exactly a case of OCD, though when you really want it to be that perfect, then yeah

[leaden stag]

Put it like this, "Art is never completed merely abandoned"

cause if you are an artist, you want it to be perfect, but your "perfect" is not the common "perfect"

[versed badge]

if you were to say, get a commission but want to perfect it, this is what the interaction would look like between you and the person that commissioned it, if it went past the deadline

[leaden stag]

So you are only ever done once you give up, never to improve it again

[meager pewter]

Everyone has their own definition of perfection then

[leaden stag]

Uh...no comment

[leaden stag]

Indeed, not a bad thing per say

[versed badge]

yeah, but honestly, if it looks good in my head, i'd say it's perfect

[leaden stag]

but their level is not ours so non-artists can't truly comprehend their actions

[meager pewter]

I drawn doodles myself so…I see your point about the idea of perfectionism in some artists since I mostly draw for the lols

[leaden stag]

Sorry if I sound a bit cynical about artists

I do respect them, its just I know a few

and they're never done

If they had the courage to simply share it with the world, they would get laughed at by some sure, but I believe many would also say they're amazing

Alas; their enemy is perfection

and due to that, Very few even seen it.

[meager pewter]

Competition is merciless, you can’t say otherwise

[leaden stag]

I...indeed. But it's better to try and fail and try again than to never try and thus, never fail

[versed badge]

i feel like i could write something, but i dont know how good will it be

from a logical perspective

[leaden stag]

The faster you fail, the faster you can improve, that is what I believe

[leaden stag]

Yes, you may need a 2nd party to assist you for things like that

[versed badge]

because i feel like most writing nowadays either misses the point or doesnt go in depth as to how this or that happened

[leaden stag]

Or they're too focused on the message

and lack nuance and subtlety

Its fine to have stories like that, but there has to be more

than just the message, what is the theme for instance?

Why did you produce it? What do you want people to take away from this etc.

[versed badge]

i have a very niche idea of what i wanted to write about

[meager pewter]

I just imagine stories for the lols

[versed badge]

something more related to the military

which is something not many people are interested in

[leaden stag]

Hmm, mayhaps you could try writing a page or even a paragraph a day

And once you're done, ask someone you trust to read it

[leaden stag]

Perhaps, but there'll always be an audience

[versed badge]

im not exactly a literature person, in fact, some of my life advices just comes to me

even though i consider myself a misanthropist

it's because i see the beauty in people, it's what keeps me going even though i kinda despise everything that's living around me

[leaden stag]

Is being a misanthropist truly wrong?

Its like you said

Despite the disgusting nature of humans, you can still see and admit there is beauty

The world is not perfect, as such it is beautiful

[versed badge]

it's wrong in a way, but you cant help but admire how far we have achieved as one species

[leaden stag]

Indeed. We made outselves the apex, we almost destroyed this pale blue dot and Yet

[meager pewter]

The world is filled with beauty and vices, so it’s time for us to know which is which and how to find the right combination to that

[leaden stag]

And yet there still exist people who try to fix it to noticeable results, there are still those who do good knowing their only reward is mockery

[versed badge]

my interest in military things comes solely from my hatred of people around me

[leaden stag]

I think it is fascinating how for all the tiny darkness in the human population, there are still those who seek to be good.

[versed badge]

it's not really cause of "it's cool", but because of how we can seemingly create things that are designed to kill others

[leaden stag]

You wish to be a bully?

[versed badge]

no, not really

[leaden stag]

Ah, so a desire for power in a sense?

[versed badge]

i don't like bullying, nor feeling superior than other people

[safe palm]

BIG Three

[meager pewter]

“Power, just like money, there is never enough”

• The problem once corruption takes root

[random hornet]

Watcha talkin' about?

[leaden stag]

At least you spoilered it but if possible, please refrain from sharing Wanshi art and info. its still cbt.

[leaden stag]

About artists and how their enemy is perfection.

[versed badge]

if people wants to be negative like me, i tell them their life has more to it than just hating yourself or people around them

[leaden stag]

May I interject? For all you misantrophic nature, I will say you have a good sense of morals

[random hornet]

I thought we were talking about grudges

[leaden stag]

And I believe that by itself makes you worthy of respect

[versed badge]

tbf, for every negative, there's always a positive side to them

[leaden stag]

Maybe we are, But I don't think that is what we're mainly talking about

[slim knoll]

No no

[versed badge]

because, really, not everyone is always a negative person

[leaden stag]

Yes, if only we have the courage to turn on the light

[devout thunder]

"have no fear of perfection you'll never reach it" - Salvador Dali
I understand that as trying to reach perfection but been your wall to finish something because "it is not perfect" enough. If the goal is to achieve perfection and never finish it because you are not satisfied, well, you will never finish anything.

[leaden stag]

Yes, we are humans. There will be good and bad days

ultimately, How do you rebound?

[leaden stag]

I wish the people I said that took it to heart, they did not.

[random hornet]

If that was the case, I am someone who always handshake people and be a proper person but people sometimes try to make me lose my temper in one way or another.

[leaden stag]

Hence my somewhat cynical look

[slim knoll]

Karenina

[leaden stag]

I do not believe that is wrong, We all have our battles. No matter how hard we try, sometimes it slips out

[versed badge]

i just accept that even though i may hate people in general, or in a more literal term, humans

[leaden stag]

Do you apologize when you irrationally geet mad at them?

[versed badge]

there's always a part of them that connects with me in some way

[meager pewter]

I’m just chilling here

[random hornet]

#💬・pgr-general is one of the many examples of exactly that.

[slim knoll]

@devout thunder your into twin tails

[leaden stag]

Huh, that is very good to hear. Despite your distain, you accept you are human.

[devout thunder]

ofc

[meager pewter]

“Life always finds its way, even when catastrophe hits”

• my favorite philosophy now

[leaden stag]

#💬・pgr-general ...is an interesting place. But considering its a place where everyone acts like trolls, I dont feel like commenting on them too much

[versed badge]

im not misantrophic, not because i want to fell like a god or feel superior to everyone else
it's the imperfection that we all have inside of us that not everyone appreciates

[leaden stag]

I'm sure most of them are decent people, if they weren't too busy pissing one another

[random hornet]

And they are people who are unironically being serious about it and not just some "troll"

[leaden stag]

I think that's simply a part of life

Some people live in worlds where they must be the best

[viral saffron]

[leaden stag]

forgoing what makes them happy for the sake of being "useful" or the "best"

I believe its a sad fate of the world's population

[versed badge]

for all that matters, people should care more about living their life to the fullest than caring how others act to their standards

[leaden stag]

Hahaha, I wholeheartedly agree

[random hornet]

I'm so obsessed living in my own bubble where if someone pops it, I will be having an emotional outburst.

[leaden stag]

It's better to do what you see fit, than to merely follow others

[versed badge]

it's a dangerous mindset that can cost someone's life

[leaden stag]

You have your reasons I'm sure; But perhaps its best to slowly, please try to go out of your bubble

and perhaps enter others

[meager pewter]

Being philosophical aren’t we ?

[leaden stag]

Hahaha, I apologize.

[leaden stag]

Either she comes home via spook or it's via Lamia no 2 buts around it.

[versed badge]

as natural as death is, i dont think anyone should die prematurely

[leaden stag]

I agree, everyone should live it to its fullest

[versed badge]

especially by suicide

[leaden stag]

alas, Life is unpredictable

Youths lose their lives randomly while senile old men live to be centurions with no memories of who they were

[versed badge]

i'll admit that im pretty suicidal, but i honestly wont turn back to doing it again after realizing i still have alot more to live for

[leaden stag]

I see

[random hornet]

Sometimes I do, but most of the time, I stay inside.
Why? It is the safest option to keep my emotional outburst in check, I had this kind of problem all the way back in kindergarten to the point I had to be taken to the hospital every weekend at that time.

[meager pewter]

But there’s worse than dying alone, especially a collective suicide that came out of nowhere

[slim knoll]

Why

[leaden stag]

While I won't poach on the whys, please no, while you may scorn other humans for disliking their imperfections, you are also human. And some still care for you.

[versed badge]

who knows, perhaps i could hold important positions in the future, or even become famous

[floral imp]

[versed badge]

once you commit suicide, nobody will know that you're dead, especially online

[slim knoll]

I must evade child support

[leaden stag]

AH...I respect you take precautions to prevent others from getting harmed by your outbursts...but one day, you might have to leave it for extended periods. Hence I believe its better to do it on your own terms, even if it takes you some time.

[leaden stag]

Again, I question your reputation when your pulling out game is very Dismal.

[meager pewter]

Hmmm…no one knows until one found the body

[random hornet]

The bad news is... I just latch out my emotional outburst to my friend in my school and in my DM.

Ah shit... Not again.

[slim knoll]

Hm. I see

[versed badge]

i feel like most people nowadays are really misunderstood, which can sometimes lead to disastrous moments in their life

[slim knoll]

But what kind of game

[versed badge]

because nobody understands them enough as a person, or is willing to share that part of their pain on themselves

[leaden stag]

Hmm; perhaps a honest apology is in order. Next is to at least ask how could you control yourself better?

[leaden stag]

I'm sorry for the snide, I thought you were the brother of the el demonos exteriminatos, Donte

[leaden stag]

People are quick to judge yes

[meager pewter]

They judge too quickly, that’s the root

[leaden stag]

because we are afraid of getting hurt

its far eaasier to simply label others as "problems"

[random hornet]

Maybe perhaps another reason why is that people just cannot be reason with when it comes to apologize.

So it usually ends up people just straight up blocking me with no second chance at hand.

[leaden stag]

than to go and inquire the truths

[versed badge]

it's okay to be judgemental, if you're willing to know more about them instead of looking them in a different way

people judge me alot because of the way i act, but i let curiosity get the best of them to let them understand me as a person, even if they don't know me enough to the point where they can get on with it

[leaden stag]

I apologize, I forget irl there aren't always 2nd chances. the Best you can do is imrpove, even if it takes 100 friends for you to learn how to be a good friend to one.

[leaden stag]

True, like Azmuth said, we should all try to walk in the shoes of others

Everyone has reasons for the way they are today

while it does not excuse their actions be it good or bad

[random hornet]

Hell, I do give someone three chances and they're out since I'm very sincere about them.
But they just can't take a single shot while I had to endure this shit for so goddamn long.

[versed badge]

if you cant walk in one's shoes, can you really call them a friend at that point? to which i would say: no, they arent truly a friend to you, even if they are your lovers

[leaden stag]

it can explain why they deem certain thing as the "right" or in some cases "only" choices

[leaden stag]

I'm sorry

[leaden stag]

Perhaps you're right, asking to empathize and think from another person's perspective is not easy

[leaden stag]

Perhaps you are right, staying mostly in your bubble is better

But I do hope you one day find a friend or someone who is sincere and willing to help you go out of your bubble

[versed badge]

i only ever considered very few people as friends, because they understood what situation im currently going through

either because they've been there before, or they felt empathetic

[leaden stag]

Same, I agree with the notion it's better to have fewer but truly good friends than many

[versed badge]

my social circle isnt even that big admittedly

[leaden stag]

I may not have truly befriended many as I hoped, but the ones I do I appreciate

They all have their own lives, but I wouldn't say I don't feel happy knowing or hearing how their life is going

[versed badge]

as much as i wanted to make friends with people, i felt like you can only know them from the surface if they dont have the same chemistry as yours

[leaden stag]

That is true

Even if you share the same interests

Some people simply don't mesh well, even if they're a good person

as much as I hate to admit

I met a few people who are genuinely good people

[versed badge]

yeah, not everyone is exactly on the same page as the others

[leaden stag]

but despite working with them on and off

[versed badge]

and some people are just, well, disingenuine

[leaden stag]

I can't really say I am their friends

Yes...

The best you can do, is simply keep them at an arms length and be polite to them even if you distain their true nature.

[dull estuary]

https://vxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1788361157981487572
https://vxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1788366522110410892

[leaden stag]

There is no cost to being Polite no?

[versed badge]

it's fine being polite, but if people are being rude, that's where i feel like it's okay to start acting like an ass to them

if they arent willing to defuse the situation

[leaden stag]

I believe that is fair. Cassus belli after all

If they dare start things first, you arent to blame for simply fighting back

[versed badge]

not everyone is nice by design

[leaden stag]

indeed; some people are very rough by nature

[versed badge]

and that's fair, because people act different based on the environment they're raised with/around

[leaden stag]

Their nurturing simply couldn't overwrite it

Yes, everyone is the byproduct of their enviroment

as much as they admit/deny it

[versed badge]

people arent meant to be nice or rude from birth, it's by nature

spoiled people are more likely to be assholes, people with harsh upbringings or raised by caring people are more likely to be a nice, decent human being

but that's not always the case by design

trauma can also be a contributing factor

also, no matter how nice you are, there will always be certain parts of you that people don't like

either because they lack empathy, or they are afraid to face their own demons

[leaden stag]

Or they never relized it

[versed badge]

yep

[leaden stag]

They think that is how you are to act to others; that by itself is both wrong and pitiful

The parents, no the enviroment failed to teach them what is right and wrong.

[versed badge]

just because you're a nice person doesnt mean people will see you as a nice, caring person

[leaden stag]

Agreed, many might think you are manipulative

or working to your own ends

[versed badge]

forcing yourself to be nice is a pretty harmful move itself, to both everyone involved

[leaden stag]

Hmm, you are right

But until they start things first

[versed badge]

honestly, the prime example i could think of rn is my boyfriend

[leaden stag]

I think its better to still be nice or at least courteous to them

[versed badge]

he's nice, sure, but he's forcing himself to be nice deep down

he cares too much about others and not himself

[leaden stag]

Ah...

So what will you do to him? How can you make him value himself more?

[versed badge]

i told him to look after himself multiple times, but he still insists he could carry on

[leaden stag]

Hmm

I pray he doesn't burn himself out

I will not say he is bad, but it is wrong to not value oneself

If you cannot care for yourself, you are simply going to make thing worse down the line.

[versed badge]

i dont think it's self to value yourself, in fact, it's better for everyone if you think of yourself first before others

i was like that before, but i stopped after realizing i've only made it worse around people i know

after that, i began to "look" after myself more (even though admittedly, i tried to off myself multiple times due to mental breakdown)

and people started seeing me more and more in a positive light, in fact, more than when i was being selfless

[leaden stag]

Perhaps they realized that you weren't being "nice" for your own selfish gains

Somewhat ironic no?

[versed badge]

sort of

in a way, if you just let things happen naturally, people will see you as a nice person, once you truly know how to be empathetic

instead of trying to force yourself to be nice

[leaden stag]

Yes, I can understand the want to "white knight" be there to help everyone when they need it

[slim knoll]

Heh El donte

[leaden stag]

But that isn't good

[versed badge]

i only ever really help if i wanted to, it's not because i care about others

it's because i can relate to them that i can help them out

[leaden stag]

So you are his brother?

[versed badge]

once you try to help others in a forceful manner, what can you learn from them? or even feel about them in that situation

[leaden stag]

Yeah, theye might feel awkard

and you might feel like you forced them into an action they might not want

[versed badge]

people who are selfless lacks the kind of emotion to truly understand someone who's at their lowest point

and im not saying what they're doing is dangerous, it's unintentionally harmful to both parties

[leaden stag]

Yes, they lack malice, which makes them not comprehend how people are when they're desperate

Sometimes, its wiser to observe and intervene when neeed

rather than just rushing in aand trying to make everything ok

[versed badge]

also, the philosophy of trying to help everyone out just doesnt work, if you cant help more than one person

[leaden stag]

Yeah, they might become reliant on you?

[versed badge]

pretty much, it only puts more pressure on you

[leaden stag]

Yeah...

[versed badge]

if i can tell anyone who wants to be a genuinely nice person, i would tell them that you cant always help everybody, and that if you care more about others than yourself first, it's only going to harm everyone around them

[leaden stag]

...indeed. They might not wish to hear that

but its something they have too to stop their self-destructive habit.

[devout thunder]

ouch what did I walk into.

[leaden stag]

Um, hello

[devout thunder]

I feel a little targeted.

sorrysorry

[leaden stag]

I apologize

[devout thunder]

sorry

[leaden stag]

It's alright, you simply came here out of curiosity or boredom right?

[devout thunder]

yeah.

I was wanting to talk about fanfiction with someone but I need to find someone who knows about the fandoms in the first place.

[versed badge]

sorry, it's just us talking about what it takes to be human

[leaden stag]

What fandom might I ask?

[devout thunder]

mainly Arknights mixed with something else.

either RWBY or Nier.

[versed badge]

the one thing i noticed among those people is that they always think they're nice, and that it's nothing they should work on

[leaden stag]

Ah, I believe Lindow knows about Nier. Arknights, quite a handful play it here

I recommend asking again in about, 7-12 hours?

[leaden stag]

Yeah, people can be unaware of their own faults

[devout thunder]

I will be getting ready for bed then.

[leaden stag]

Goodnight then Azure.

[devout thunder]

it's only noon right now.

[leaden stag]

Oh...

[devout thunder]

almost 1.

[leaden stag]

It's almost 0200 over here lol

[devout thunder]

ah.

then have a goodnight yourself.

[leaden stag]

Ah, thank you.

[versed badge]

me personally, whenever people started having a distaste of me, i start asking myself "what have i done wrong"

so i can understand what exactly is wrong about me for people to not like me that well

[leaden stag]

While you won't need to hear it, but I hope it goes well on that. Becoming better, if for yourself not others.

[versed badge]

yeah

but to me, selfless people are very close minded and arent aware what's wrong about them that made others not like them

or have a general discomfort about them

[leaden stag]

Yeah, in an odd way

it feels like they musst helps others

if they cannot help, there's something wrong

As if simply nothing is going on is bad

It is 0201.

I'm sorry but I think I should go get ready to sleep

[versed badge]

exactly, when you think that you're already good the way you are, you're pretty much set for destruction

and also, goodnight

[leaden stag]

Goodnight

[versed badge]

on an end note: my boyfriend usually tries to help me out when i have mental breakdowns, but couldnt in the end because he doesnt know how, which leads to situations most of the time

[leaden stag]

I see. Well, I hope for now at least, he works on helping himself more.

[versed badge]

he's too tight on assignments since he's in college currently, so it would be awhile for him to understand the burdens of being selfless

[leaden stag]

I see; I hope if he does learn it, its not through the hard knocks of life

[viral saffron]

[mystic walrus]

gz

[earnest scroll]

Gao~

21

[devout thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/mahito-escape-jujutsu-kaisen-shibuya-jjk-running-gif-11511839185438332665

[earnest scroll]

Smokey

[floral imp]

They are so cute.

[dull estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_nuYCrk6Dg

[devout thunder]

BRICKS

[floral imp]

She is eating your Pyrox there.

[devout thunder]

[earnest scroll]

Poorox

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-arona-pyroxenes-nom-nom-itpiki-gif-3115076044651562230

[devout thunder]

Midokuni Update when

[floral imp]

No bra

[earnest scroll]

No brah

[devout thunder]

[earnest scroll]

I'm glad someone is enjoying Mr. White's cooking

[floral imp]

You are the one who posted it. Don't pin it on me.

[devout thunder]

I didnr even realize that until you said

[earnest scroll]

It's just a burning memory 🎶

[devout thunder]

dont make me play this "sht" again

[floral imp]

The Scire Arcade Anima just got added this patch btw.

[devout thunder]

I will not play, but nice to know. I mean, I uninstall a game I dont want to play anymore, and hell nah that I will install it again. Only for her skin

[floral imp]

It's perm anyways.

[earnest scroll]

You can always check out but you can never leave

[devout thunder]

oh well

[devout thunder]

already did so. Im still here because ppl in this chat is nice to talk times to times.

[earnest scroll]

That means that you'll be back sooner or later
You're bound by us, shackled

[floral imp]

I got demoted from "nice to talk to" to "nice to talk to from time to time".

[devout thunder]

[earnest scroll]

Also yeah
I don't play gachas btw

[devout thunder]

but you played PGR even a bit, no?

[earnest scroll]

Yep
And AK
Whaled too

[floral imp]

Life is a gacha game.

[earnest scroll]

But the rates are trash and the pity non existent 😭
Also no anime girls. Why live

[devout thunder]

I see, looks like most in this server dont even play the game anymore

[earnest scroll]

It gets boring after a while

[devout thunder]

indeed

[earnest scroll]

I literally quit just as I got cw

Got 0 minutes on her

[floral imp]

I'll play until BRS, then I demote the game to "check back every few months, read story, uninstall".

[devout thunder]

well, its same sht over and over. WZ, PPC, Siege, boring event things, rinse, repeat. At least if Weekly was not that WZ PPC shit but just sweep and done, I would keep playing.

[earnest scroll]

Check back, do dorms, uninstall

[devout thunder]

story, |m so hyped about PGR story

[earnest scroll]

It's a grind for nothing
Zombie behaviour

[devout thunder]

total

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-clap-clappa-hdkappa-mydsx-kappa-kappa-gif-21048003

[devout thunder]

and pretend the game need skills, but actually is just a P2W

[devout thunder]

[lapis kiln]

nice to ploom to

[floral imp]

Did you ploom the new Ploom skin?

[devout thunder]

now seriously, If I was engaged by the story (and the way it is presented), I would keep playing even chores been that boring

[lapis kiln]

I wont

[floral imp]

I'm behind on story. I started Ayla patch story, then just kind of kept delaying reading it.

[earnest scroll]

Nice to ploom too 😩

[devout thunder]

I mean example BA, for me is a chill gameplay, but man, I want to know what will happen next.

[floral imp]

Less than a week.

[dull yacht]

@frigid sparrow

[devout thunder]

and damn, PGR in story sound track is total sht

[floral imp]

Do you not enjoy the same 3 songs?

[devout thunder]

LUUUUL, fr fr. Only good music is new boss battle ones. The ones used while they are talking is total sht.

basically those 3 you said

[devout thunder]

[earnest scroll]

One time I was in a restaurant they played the same fucking song
9 times in a row

[floral imp]

I think there isn't anything wrong with them. It's more that it makes me want to vomit after listening to it for 3 years.

[devout thunder]

fr

[floral imp]

Way back when I worked in a factory, 8 hour shifts. We had music on the comms system or whatever.
4 songs looping.

[devout thunder]

well, not that BA doesnt use same ost, but the OST used in Volume F was so damn good.

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

[earnest scroll]

Also at my previous job my boss was adamant to keep a shitty 10$ radio going on the worst possible station
Literally 5 songs at most / day
For 8hrs a day

[devout thunder]

like this ost, it hits hard. BA volume F spoiler

||https://youtu.be/RMoqYKDzUeM?si=b3QGeqgp6rwKBZJ1||

[earnest scroll]

"why are you not working harder? You even have music"

[devout thunder]

also OST "Welcome School"

[floral imp]

Welcome School hits harder imo, because of the contrast with Unwelcome School.
Also Defective Pixel is just godly.

[lapis kiln]

Undefective Pixel

[devout thunder]

you thought the same, yes. ||Shiroko|| with Welcome School, who would imagine it could hit like that.

[floral imp]

Do you know what was worse?
When you do night shift.
Take hour long bus ride home.
Shower, sleep.
Wake up.
Take another hour back.
Start afternoon shift.

[earnest scroll]

Ouch
During the pandemic we sometimes pulled 16/24, but never did actual shift work

[earnest scroll]

Chill vibes
Pretty nice

[devout thunder]

I like ||Responsibility ||OST because it is exactly in that ||Phrenapates ||part, damn broh.

[floral imp]

https://youtu.be/w-Z9BG83Xc0

[devout thunder]

did you play the game?

[earnest scroll]

No and won't lul

[devout thunder]

uhh, I mean, it is totally different hearing the OST while playing.

[floral imp]

I love how it "feels wrong".

That scene is fucking pain too.

[devout thunder]

[earnest scroll]

1. It's a Gacha so hard pass
2. I'm not into sm0l girls

[devout thunder]

wait, we will still see ||Phrenapates ||in the future, right?

[devout thunder]

fair enough

[floral imp]

1. is fair enough.
   But 2. just looks like the usual misconception about what the game is really about.

[earnest scroll]

Also, student-teacher relationships are cursed

[devout thunder]

not their fault, the hardcore fanbase is totally down bad making this weird misconception about the game.

[floral imp]

Don't think so.

[floral imp]

I'm down bad for everything.

[devout thunder]

I thought we still would see it 🤔

[devout thunder]

im not talking about you, tho

[earnest scroll]

📸.

[mellow junco]

Idk why I thought of this but this sounds like the plot to a really bad movie that has Ryan Gosling as the main character.

[floral imp]

Title is: "Normal everyday life"

[earnest scroll]

"I drive"

[mellow junco]

my oh my I love sending in my 300 bp lucia dawn to repeatedly get oneshot in warzone because the devs didnt know how to do the weekly quests properly

[devout thunder]

12x

[earnest scroll]

"blue archive is an ok game"

BA players

[floral imp]

||https://youtu.be/lwO8APPPJtk||

[devout thunder]

like, when I started hearing this song, I said "I FKN LOVE THIS GAME!"

[floral imp]

It was an experience.

[low ferry]

[devout thunder]

the chills, I think I into cliche things, and idc

man, this song is so good, specially knowing all that happened

[floral imp]

BA teaches you that clichés aren't bad.

[devout thunder]

fr

[hardy crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1233044722852036700/Yanyan_chipichapa.gif

[devout thunder]

and when I saw that ||Shiroko ||looking at the sky, it was like ahhhh the trailer scene was that

[floral imp]

Trailer go by so fast, not letting you get an idea as to what's happening.
And the content flies over the heads of people who didn't play that story part. So you can just link them to anyone.

[devout thunder]

indeed, too fast to process, but after playing Volume F, all makes sense.

[floral imp]

Soon

[devout thunder]

nooooooohhhh 😭
ok, lemme check my pyrox planner again 🥲

[floral imp]

You can finally enjoy the mid-chapter wait.

Chapter 1 first half on 14th. Second half on 28th.

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

You just need to get 1 girl early.

[devout thunder]

@mystic walrus look. She has a demon summon circle

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-yukari-hyakkaryouran-yukari-kuru-kuru-gif-16086181394692549171

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[devout thunder]

Uhhhh...

[floral imp]

https://youtu.be/FPszvq94AHg?t=250

Kekyo

[devout thunder]

Kikyou is the way to go, together with S.Hanako

Lool

Kek

[devout thunder]

btw

[floral imp]

[devout thunder]

Makekto only if she spooks me

plz Nexon, do that 20h+ maintenance again and spare two 10xTickets again, and again

[floral imp]

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-koyuki-bluesechi-gif-14075364765940116066

[earnest scroll]

Lance mains rise up

[mystic walrus]

ah this is the new general

[devout thunder]

[haughty pelican]

Most people avoid interacting with you lmao whay are you saying

Also why the fuck do you know that person you dork

Bitch
I have every right to speak
It's an ass game

[sharp bramble]

Ass game because it doesn't have short and flat girls
We know

[haughty pelican]

Not everyone rates games by their sexual desires you pervert

[mellow junco]

huh

[sharp bramble]

You do

[native condor]

gotta agree on this 1 chief

[devout thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/diego-brando-diego-alternate-the-world-za-warudo-gif-17597363

[mellow junco]

https://tenor.com/view/zamn-gif-23821732

[floral imp]

I will fix her.

[lapis kiln]

Why

[haughty pelican]

[mellow junco]

this might be the worst looking visual novel segment in a videogame I've seen so far

[haughty pelican]

I don't know if anything can

[floral imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-arisu-arisu-dance-gif-13254269329935618565

[floral imp]

You are making it harder than it should be.

[floral imp]

You were right. She self-ended.

[robust spear]

Tough

[mystic walrus]

Serika 🤌

[haughty pelican]

Told you

[haughty pelican]

She's so peak

[haughty pelican]

She's ready

[floral imp]

[dull yacht]

she seems like the type who would kill your love one if she thought it would get you to love her

so...i guess you can trade lyria for her