🚀・off-topic-lobby

[cursive bronze]

Gacha

[devout thunder]

[earnest stag]

if anyone interested to enter a game made by kuro games called wuthering waves
register with this invite link so i get lottery rolls
https://wutheringwaves.kurogame.com/en/cbt?inviterCode=-ZWYPJxR&adtag=ownlink

[mighty cove]

me trying something after months without playing

[mighty cove]

ye

[jolly spade]

Free rolls via invite is....an odd choice for a Beta Test

[weak wedge]

i suppose WW will not get a PS4 version?

[devout thunder]

What is a PS4?

[weak wedge]

[jolly spade]

I heard it will?

[weak wedge]

it will be good if they release

[haughty pelican]

omg arknights

[floral imp]

Yes.

[frigid sparrow]

Gn

[polar basin]

BC Calculations, up until August / Lamia:

Alright, I've done the math. With just Dailies and Weeklies alone, you'll be able to grind 33.88k BC by the time Lamia arrives, given that you get 4.84k per month. With story, Celica's class, stronghold and others, you can easily make 50k+ BC as a F2P player. That is, of course, of you login daily and waste zero cards.

[haughty pelican]

mid

[floral imp]

Yes.

[frigid sparrow]

Yes

[jolly spade]

What is your start point, this patch?

Because from here on, including Ayla rn we got.....5 people to roll for before Lamia

Alpha, No. 21, Watanabe and Lamia

And GLB spoilers, ||Alisa||

[polar basin]

It's from the end of January / beginning of February.
Main Targets:
Alpha: Crimson Weave
XXI: Feral Scent
Bianca: Stigmata's "Isolated Dream" coating.

[jolly spade]

So basically, its this patch

[polar basin]

Pretty much.

[jolly spade]

Hmmmm

[polar basin]

I'll be getting Alpha, Blazing Night (6* Signature Weapon) and her Cub.

[jolly spade]

I know that GLB now has kept em frame names intact for a while

But Feral Scent is something I feel needs change

[polar basin]

Which will cost me a grand total of 27.5k BC.

[jolly spade]

Hyperreal, Vitrum, Kaleido and Crimson Weave are at least decent names, but Feral Scent is uhh

[polar basin]

Could be "Feral [something]".

[jolly spade]

Honestly I dont mind if its Fenrir

[polar basin]

Feral Fenrir (or just Fenrir) sounds cool as fuck.

[jolly spade]

Just Fenrir

Fenrir's a wolf from mythology

[polar basin]

Greek, if I'm not mistaken.

[polar basin]

15k: Alpha CW.
7.5k: Blazing Night.
5k: Cub.

Well.. no, she'll cost me less, actually -

Given my pity (Themed Event Banner), Alpha herself will cost me 9.75k BC.

Blazing Night will cost me just above 5k.

Cub is the same.

[tribal python]

Ya think I can still get enough cards for her?( I just started yesterday)

I have like 6k rn tho

[polar basin]

Absolutely. With story alone, you can gather 10k BC.

[tribal python]

woah

Alr I'll farm through story

[polar basin]

1.21k with dailies and weeklies.

If it's from Ch. 1 onwards, you can make roughly 15k by the time Alpha: CW arrives.

[tribal python]

ohh

[polar basin]

Which then 100% guarantees her.

[tribal python]

Yeah I might get it I want to prioritize her and sig weapon tho

I can probably get there, tberes alot of bonuses for new players

Alr thx

[polar basin]

No problem.

If you're going for Lightning team, go for Vera: Garnet through the free selector that newbies get.

Then pull CW, once she arrives.

After that, save for No. 21: Feral Scent.

[slim knoll]

Me saving for Crimson weaver

[devout thunder]

Creamsum Weed

[dull estuary]

EAT.MY.ASS.ZINAIDA! And took me 15 tries. Ngl I was thinking I have to fight the various Puls but nope, go through Suicide Traffic, jump the hole and fight her with all you got. Thank God there wasn't a second phase of her.

One last ending and it's gonna be tedious: Complete the Missions that were left blank in the Free Mission in order to get the Last one open (so about 4-5 runs, great).

[frigid sparrow]

Why the hell the robot are looking at the sunset like some hero ?

[dull estuary]

Not Robot, my Mecha

[hollow talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/488809051220738058/1198704251271127100/IMG_20240121_153552.jpg?ex=65bfdf54&is=65ad6a54&hm=fb4be552be32cd91b3613acd2b410edce636fa5ac83f5ee0f3c3d40a8e83f619&

[dull estuary]

Actual, not AI this time and DAMN
https://youtu.be/lbcMZJP_H1o?si=J9viM_40Iafuavxt

[terse sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041247861947502683/1194215808298143824/cat_meme.mp4?ex=65b8c5a4&is=65a650a4&hm=73e691de0f9306c1f36cf9274c386e872def0b8fa010326ab126d642ff5c88d2&

thats actually funny lmao

[devout thunder]

1 million lives, 2 million comes. Not a big deal

[terse sage]

it has dropped by 3 million AND STILL GOING DOWN IN REAL TIME

shit is bad now

CN bros stay strong

[devout thunder]

I still think it's a small thing. Also is social media unfollow, not game quitting. Not a big deal. They will not have the balls to also quit

[terse sage]

[crystal zealot]

Other people in Stellaris: Become the Imperium of Man, commits genocide.

Me in Stellaris: Spends an full hour in the custom civilization screen just to create the fandom of my favourite vtubers.

[jolly spade]

Cmon, they havent learnt from 1st Anniv or that they wanna half-leave Genshin?

[hasty night]

Bro about to die

[jolly spade]

Look, its better if people just leave Genshin to EOS

Its pretty clear MiHoYo is using it as a money funnel now

[frigid sparrow]

Heavy requirements?

[hasty night]

https://fxtwitter.com/MakoMattari/status/1748917640507338869?t=XkaC5T-2W58rjaKvX1RcRQ&s=19

@crisp breach
@leaden stag

[leaden stag]

Fascinating, shame but I suppose it does allow the plot to keep relatively tight, I do admit, kinda miss the longer formats, allow alot more focus on the other members of the cast

[hasty night]

Most important on how competent the writer is,Orb,Z and X also blazar is deemed excellent despite being only half year,each character having a lot of personality compared to the one year shows of kamen rider

Over stretching a series means more filler,look at kamen rider now, zero one has a one year series but still unable to fully explain the story,and has to made a lot of v cine

And such means fewer unnecessary rider and more focus onto actual topic

[leaden stag]

True, Less is more. Quality consise stories are better than dragged on one

[hasty night]

But half year means more cramped story

But in case like taguchi

Not issue,lol

[dull yacht]

they are building a machine that is used to sacrifice them to each other to make them stronger

[frigid sparrow]

Okay

Evil AF

[mighty sequoia]

i heard palworld good
is it true

[dull yacht]

yes
also the world is huge and not empty

you can go to that tree in the distance

[frigid sparrow]

Stop miyuki you're making me feel more poor than I already am XD

[dull yacht]

whats that? you wanna feel poor?

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-16565229595323670098

[frigid sparrow]

Kek

[dull estuary]

The Timid Brother and Himbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWw8YG-q0Wg

[fleet aurora]

[dull estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOcIPGIQqo&t=5s

[glossy briar]

[devout thunder]

Do my eyes decisive me or do I see the Chinese genshin community actually finally stand up against the horrible rewards the west have been complaining about ?

it will really be a thing if they also quit the game

Apparently 3 million of them have

quit from social media, but also from game?

Well looks like genshi account lost 3 million followers today, usually when Chinese players unfollow they quit the game

oh, now this is a good news. this is good for all Gacha community. YOu hearing me WuWa 50/50 jenshin copycat game?

[devout thunder]

Nah WuWa will be better than genshin in everyway

[devout thunder]

for me if Gacha system is trash copycat from GI, no. Still greedy as GI

Genshin was never a good gacha, it was just brain dead story and gameplay

PGR shines as Gacha gem because of the gacha system

[devout thunder]

Well idk If u saw the kuro games dev video but if they did all that, pretty sure we can change the summoning system however from what I saw, the system looks fair

any 50/50 is sht

We gonna have the gacha system in the CBT2

So we shall see then

lets see

[wispy raft]

nah bro WW will have 50/50... I guarantee you

[devout thunder]

I want kuro games to earn money, I know 50/50 is ass but kuro games is a company that actually deserves respect unlike another company

[devout thunder]

yeah, I also think so

[wispy raft]

After all the overhaul they did with the initial build...they desperately need to profit

[devout thunder]

as I said, I spend a lot in coatings in PGR. But 50/50? Im out.

[devout thunder]

Bet you'll play once you see the game get better over time with new mechanics;)

[devout thunder]

100% don't think pgr gives them that much money anyway

[wispy raft]

Unless you want them to copy BAs gacha format

[devout thunder]

The world will know pain if I don't pull yinlin in beta

[devout thunder]

I started BA, from what I noticed, all strong must have char events are far enough to get the gacha currency. Also, it can be the pity it is necessary to get. I hate 50/50. It is designed to raise the gamble addiction

in other words, BA takes 2 months to get a nice char. GI takes 5 months. Lets see about WuWa

PGR also takes 2 months (2 events)

[wispy raft]

I want WuWa to have the character gacha to have selected spooks

[devout thunder]

Will you play if it's 50/50 but there is enough rewards for free to play to get what u want ?

[devout thunder]

actually it is the time to get the char, not pity nor 50/50. If it has 50/50 but I still get in about 2months guaranteed, Im good.

[frigid sparrow]

Help , all man of my country are regressing to the 5th grade because of Palworld

[devout thunder]

but normally 50/50 is made to extend that 2 months to 4months, raising your ansiety to spend money to guarantee your char

[devout thunder]

I don't know if they should make a system similar to pgr. The issue is, pgr players have a brain and there isn't a lot of people on the world who have a brain. Genshin wins in its popularity because people are stupid. So if Wuthering waves wants to win they have to go the stupid route

[devout thunder]

GI wins because massive Marketing actually

[frigid sparrow]

No

[devout thunder]

PGR doesn't produce enough brain activity with constantly changing and making new things like genshin is my point

Also genshin is made in a dumb way to drain people's brain

Lemme check BA position in profit

Talking about this from a West View point since the west is dumb

[devout thunder]

well, WuWa started using a gacha system of that game, so, not a good start imo

[frigid sparrow]

PGR is more close to a fighting game/hack n slash than genshin that's basically BoW with tales of vesperia

[devout thunder]

It will be for the idiots

Why doesn't genshin die guys ?

LUL

It's a horrible game ? Constantly changing, having new metas and banners that are absolutely dog shit

Why doesn't it die ? Because the game is made for stupid peeps. You want to win in this economy you have to make the player's mind absolutely brain dead with too much overloaded data

PGR NOV2023

The 50/50 system will probably make it so they constantly change the meta

[devout thunder]

That's not a lot compared to other games that use the brain dead method

[frigid sparrow]

First of all doesn't die , because hoyo always do a new game when the previous is on verge of dying, so honkai gave half of its life to genshin to star rail and will go to zzz

Now the new will keep the old ones on the life system

[devout thunder]

I will not say die to GI, but yeah, that 50/50 is the most cursed sht I ever saw

and WuWa is copying it, smh

[devout thunder]

That is what I am talking about guys, when you keep stimulating the brain with new shit players will keep playing and paying. That's why genshin doesn't die. PGR however can't do that due to its fair gacha system and not changing the meta every 3 months.

The 50/50 is the worst thing for us smart people, however it'll keep the game alive for the majority due to everyone else being stupid

Dopamine effect I'd call it

well, Blue Archive and Azur Lane dont have sht gacha system and earning more than PGR. I mean, it is not that sht 50/50 that is the WOW, THIS IS THE ANSWER FOR PROFIT! (Im using Blue Archive and Azur Lane as example because I played both)

[frigid sparrow]

PGR will not die fast either because it's the same idea as souls like , difficulty will increase + your arsenal

[devout thunder]

Pretty sure those games win because of horni

[devout thunder]

well, so it it even proves that 50/50 is not the reason for big budgets. GI is because Marketing

[devout thunder]

Oh yeah it won't die but just saying it'll be at a stale mate, if u want a game to blow up gotta market and do the dead brain method of forcing players to spend money eventually

[frigid sparrow]

I see

[devout thunder]

Hoping waves get good marketing it has been getting some good marketing so far, we even had the game reach big content creators

We need this game to do amazing so genshin and other gachas actually learn that this is the better way to make games and players happy

[devout thunder]

just pay some sus Cosplayers and also Influencers to promo BIG budget events like Hoyo

[devout thunder]

Oh yes, I actually saw a yinlin cosplay at the TGS event shit was spicy

but yeah, all in all, what I hate the most is anything that takes more than about 2 months to get the hyped char.

[devout thunder]

If its 50/50 just make it possible to get the character f2p and don't change the meta every 3 months

And we good

3 months? im good too. PGR is about 3months in between big events in CN 42 days (35days+7 idle days)

5 months? NO FKN HELL NAH

Let's pray brother they change the system

[frigid sparrow]

If the gacha and exploration be genshin like but the gameplay stay PGR/Elden ring?

[devout thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-24818151

[devout thunder]

[devout thunder]

It'll 100% destroy the gacha field

[frigid sparrow]

Why?

[devout thunder]

I already saw multiple leaks the game is already 10x better than genshin

[devout thunder]

In a good way my bad sounded evil there

[frigid sparrow]

You sounded honest to me

Stay gold son

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wink-gotcha-you-tube-thanks-gif-3531127

[jolly spade]

Thats like saying MiHoYo gave the life from Honkai away only to bring it back

I wont wrong you for it though

Honkai's MiHoYo's lovechild

[noble tangle]

honestly i like the fact that hoyo change their meta rapidly

you get something new every patch, bad character might become good and vice versa

[cosmic pagoda]

I love hoyo games

So f2p

Like bro

You only need to spend 5000 USD Per patch

THATS INSANELY F2P

[slow tree]

wallet gameplay wildin

[noble tangle]

unfortunately this positive is held back by the fact that the artifact system is shit

[slow tree]

pls no i want my tingyun to be on my team forever

shes not dead (sources: trust me bro)

i refuse to believe shes dead

[noble tangle]

tingyun will be viable until the end of time lol

[slow tree]

w shes goated

[little oak]

Stupid question but uh. Is wuwa both mobile and pc?

[cosmic pagoda]

Basically me

Still got Oberon

[slow tree]

fgo players r very real

[low ferry]

[devout thunder]

• wallet impact

[low ferry]

Me who has them all + their summer version

[cosmic pagoda]

I have all the lb 6 cast

Waiting for summer

NEED NP 5 MELU AND CHLOE

I'M IN SERIOUSLY NEED OF A ST AVENGER

[low ferry]

Laughs in NP2 Summer Meluko

[cosmic pagoda]

I hope you aren't using her FA

[low ferry]

[slow tree]

💀

[cosmic pagoda]

I have np 2 melu

[low ferry]

Mine is NP1

[slow tree]

how long hav yall played the game for

[cosmic pagoda]

7 years

[slow tree]

wtf 💀

[cosmic pagoda]

Joking

I played for only 2.6 years

But I got all the shit

[slow tree]

bruh i thought u were being fr bro

[devout thunder]

Guys whats the longest time you've played a game for ? Mine is 7 years

[slow tree]

does it have to be continous playing?

[devout thunder]

Nope

Just how long u been playing it whether daily or monthly

[slow tree]

8 years

[devout thunder]

Sheesh what game ?

[slow tree]

cs

[devout thunder]

Of course

[slow tree]

was shit back then, now im gud yey

[devout thunder]

I am still shit

[low ferry]

Depends what you mean

[cosmic pagoda]

Mine is like 10 years

[slow tree]

i still hate cs2

it shouldnt have been a thing, fuck you valve

[cosmic pagoda]

My first game was Legacy of Discord

MMORPG btw

I recently left that game

Deleted my account

[devout thunder]

Sheesh

[devout thunder]

Same shouldn't have done a second game

[cosmic pagoda]

I was 9 when i started that game

[slow tree]

they made it fucking worse

[devout thunder]

I think I was 13 with mine

[slow tree]

i think i was 9 when played cs first

[devout thunder]

Welcome to companies trying to copy other games

[slow tree]

or somewhere along those lines

[slow tree]

they made flicking shit

[devout thunder]

OH YEAH

[slow tree]

awp feels clunky af

[devout thunder]

That shit made me so mad

[slow tree]

the animation does not look smooth

[slow tree]

fr

[devout thunder]

Looks like we got set back to 2bit gaming

With that animation

[slow tree]

like not only does flicking not work well cuz of the change in ticks and stuff, but it also feels like shit

and also if they had cs2, just release it as a serparate game, why the fuck would you delete csgo

thats the part im mad about

[devout thunder]

Guess they wanted to kill a game that'll never die

[slow tree]

they probably expected people would want to go back to csgo after they got the half assed cs2, so they just fucking deleted the game

[agile crater]

They pulled a MW 2 i guess

[devout thunder]

I regret getting that game

[agile crater]

Force people to play the new game by just deleting the previous one that wasnt shit

[slow tree]

game companies these days r wild

[devout thunder]

My game the 7 year old talking about is destiny and destiny 2

Game is completely dead now

Till April

[slow tree]

oh ive played destiny 2 before but not destiny 1

i was pretty young back then so i just picked the coolest looking gear and wore it 💀

[devout thunder]

D1 was peak

D2 makes me cry

[slow tree]

looking at it afterwards d2 was pretty shit right

i havnet played d1 so idk about it

[devout thunder]

Basically it's d2 but the devs actually care and love the game

Pretty sure the entire fan base is done with the game, we'll all probably quit after the game's story ends this year

[slow tree]

ah i see

game overall looks p cool tho

[devout thunder]

Wouldn't recommend it unless u wanna suffer after you completed most of what the game has to offer

Also u need to pay for everything cool

Would recommend warframe more

[slow tree]

i just beat the story, i forgot what i did after that

[jolly spade]

Genshin-specific be most budget/old people are trash or not used

Star Rail has it better that Dan Heng exists as a Hunt baseline and March has uses with Shield people

But in all their games their gachas have relative sad chance rates

Its only that Star Rail managed to be quite generous in the overall Gem gain rate

[noble tangle]

Some people unironically view this as a positive because it makes pulling "more exciting"

[jolly spade]

Its not.

Ive been in a couple gachas myself

Its not.

[gray vector]

Gambling Addiction

pretty sure what's more exciting is when you can tilt the camera angle as much as you want like in Nier Automata

[hollow talon]

https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1749405397046231109

[frigid sparrow]

Booba

https://tenor.com/view/blad-gif-21372452

[hollow talon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/KA_JPbEnTsU?si=pH0GL9aDFzjuAvuf

https://tenor.com/view/don-don-quioxte-limbus-company-true-gif-15934197920106609892

[frigid sparrow]

A curious useless information:
Ayla kaleido's theme is the mix of:
Narwhal (alpha)
Hikari(plum)
Revelation(haicma)
Adones ( Roland)
Disorient (luna)

[hasty night]

https://vxtwitter.com/Lia_is_shy/status/1749094753986351448?t=LXqjFMDBF1pz0JIJ-rga7w&s=19

The silly

[devout thunder]

when you post a comment more on-topic than what we see in #💬・pgr-general chat. Thanks anyways. this OST rocks.

[hallow sky]

https://twitter.com/date_a_info/status/1749357051795697839?t=2oOR-kx3EVTYo5CjQYFHLA&s=19 @cosmic pagoda

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#date_a_live #デアラ5期

Twitter · Jan 22, 2024, 9:03 AM

[cosmic pagoda]

KURUMI ARC PART 2 IS S5 !?

[hallow sky]

Ye

[cosmic pagoda]

MIO TAKAMIYA FINALLY

LETSSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hallow sky]

You really hyped for her

[cosmic pagoda]

OFC

[cosmic pagoda]

SHE'S MY FAVOURITE GIRL'S MOM + SHIDOU'S MOM

Technically every spirit is Shidou's sister

[hallow sky]

How did you reach that conclusion

[cosmic pagoda]

Mio Takamiya made all the others
And they share a part of her

[hallow sky]

You know

I'll be happy if kurumi shido sister

[terse sage]

technically he ain't wrong bro

[hallow sky]

Direct sister not even step-sister?

[terse sage]

yeah

since spirits came from her

[hallow sky]

Shouldn't have heard that

Literally i never even knew that

[cosmic pagoda]

Direct

Literally

In a sense

Since Mio Takamiya IS their mother too

[hallow sky]

This should have been on Google and reddit too.

[cosmic pagoda]

Most people don't talk about it

Cuz you know

It's very obvious

[cosmic pagoda]

So basically let me spoil it

Remember Kurumi met Mio in S4 end ?

[hallow sky]

Ye

[cosmic pagoda]

Later Kurumi helping Shidou will meet her again

That time Shidou gets a tiny bit of knowledge

But he doesn't realise that

Actually he doesn't realise that until very late

That Mio is his mother

And Mio is his lover

And that Shidou is not even the MC

There was another guy

Before Shidou

And he is the mc

[hallow sky]

Ye ik that

[cosmic pagoda]

Shidou is just a fake

A failed reincarnation of the human Mio loved

[hallow sky]

||She gave birth to shidou by absorbing shinji||

[cosmic pagoda]

Technically dude got so much Rizz in him that dude made a baby with Mio after dude died

[hallow sky]

[cosmic pagoda]

Death Rizz 100%

What

[hallow sky]

S6 is last right?

[cosmic pagoda]

Let's see

If they cover up the part where Kurumi uses Sister's angel

Then S6 is last

[hallow sky]

[wispy raft]

I miss the DAL spirit pledge game

[hallow sky]

Ye it got eos

They even gave free 100 pulls during white queen banner

[wispy raft]

I know... I maxed my Kurumi, White Queen and Inv. Origami

[hallow sky]

I was halfway for kurumi and white queen

[wispy raft]

by maxed I also maxed their exclusive sephira set lol

I was in the midle of maxing normal spirit Origami

when eos came

[hallow sky]

I didn't do that

[hallow sky]

Iirc people said they messed up when they launched second game

[wispy raft]

It was easier before the rework came

[hallow sky]

Well would be nice if new dal game release

But it's not that easy

[livid dew]

yugioh going dark souls

[versed badge]

fucking finally

[dull yacht]

yugioh is unrecognizable now

[tardy grove]

Never expected

[floral imp]

Now you can enjoy the rest of the story without any more interruptions.

@haughty pelican @devout thunder
https://youtu.be/AXeYdHVRBus

Event before SW Hanako event.

[devout thunder]

[floral imp]

20 pulls just from World Raid.

[devout thunder]

noice

normally those pulls points reset after those short events, right?

[haughty pelican]

I don't think I can do that

[floral imp]

You can. Everyone can. Final clear is like level 10 or something. That gives 200 per boss. And you get 1000 when the boss global HP pool is depleted (which is done by every player together).

[devout thunder]

btw, I finished with 1420 Grand Assault points, 80 less to get the 10x pull ticket

[devout thunder]

GOOD

[haughty pelican]

You severely overestimate my capabilities

[floral imp]

I believe in you.

[haughty pelican]

I do not

[devout thunder]

so basically a Sensei lvl 36 can clear things? I hope so

[floral imp]

You will get the Pyrox rewards for sure.

[devout thunder]

[haughty pelican]

I am level 37 so what are the chances I job hard

[leaden stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRqbyeAoljE
Damn, Grant Gustin can really dance

[frigid sparrow]

I tried once because the first time I entered the server I was pointing a little "hole" in the in some part of story and all ....
It irritated some snowflakes and I got banned

This is my 3rd account

[devout thunder]

Very PGRO behavior

[haughty pelican]

Bullshit what was your username

People don't get banned for actual racism

So thats absolutely a lie

[dull estuary]

https://vxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1749477491020861641

Until March is crazy 💀

[frigid sparrow]

the same as now i dont change nicknames , who peaople are suposed to find me if i keep changing it?

[haughty pelican]

Do you know English

[frigid sparrow]

only what i saw in gamesXD
and im lazy about it too to be honest

https://fixupx.com/noctipher/status/1749440252651979171?s=20

[floral imp]

Johnny English?

[versed badge]

is it possible for BA to have a english dub

[floral imp]

Not likely.

[haughty pelican]

ofc

[dull estuary]

https://fxtwitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1749270237386600944?t=DqsszHrgZaDNxdVXCGOX7Q&s=19

[floral imp]

I saw the movie once, but don't remember what was in it lol

[frigid sparrow]

PEAK

https://fixupx.com/alphafluxx_/status/1749284810215051585?s=20

[leaden stag]

Answer is yes, but the better question is whether it's worth it or not. Only homescreen, l2d and gameplay are voiced, so might be cost effective. But would people use it and is it worth the time needed?

Like PGR got a eng dub and it's nice, but what if the game's cast skyrocted exponentially?

Would it be worth keeping Eng, Ponghua and JP voiceovers?

When the last one are the most used ?

[floral imp]

https://bluearchive.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Students
Voice all them

[frigid sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/Echylla_VAMC/status/1749536432144716277?s=20

[mystic stump]

Mega Man X Robot Mavericks are cool

[frigid sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/RealYouTubeKids/status/1749270374938820995?s=20

[jolly spade]

Dem GBA graphics

[frigid sparrow]

yup

[jolly spade]

Though iirc there's a Megaman game that got remastered to the PSP

[mystic stump]

PlayStation 1*

[jolly spade]

Meanwhile here I am in the PSP era appreciating small stuff like this, as much as logic doesnt work that well in that scene

And Im also having fun being evil (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon)

[frigid sparrow]

i find quite interesing these match ups
Liv +2B
veritas + A2
nanamecha + 9S

[jolly spade]

An absolutely quiet but peaceful bunch, an absolutely quiet but potentially chaotic bunch, and.....a boke and tsukkomi routine

[frigid sparrow]

XD

totally chilling[

[frigid sparrow]

looking at new luna and here cub reminds me of mey becoming HoT and her dragon

[dull estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbOntRWhFtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpcGDpkKio

[frigid sparrow]

Did I already say that like 2B and his team they have a strange appearance because they are more "realistic"? like they have more human proportions which is a bit strange

[dull estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNVm2tbNqrA

[weak wedge]

hummm think i will save for the new Alpha

after her i'm just interested in Luna and she is a huge while after

[frigid sparrow]

will be a crazy year

[frigid sparrow]

https://youtu.be/etlzS8JjdrU?si=jsUcvXgVN2uUxnqf

[jolly spade]

That's....actually better than the blur image

Also funni Cross Ange refs

[dull yacht]

@leaden stag @cursive bronze had my first taste of a v2 fight

[cursive bronze]

How was it?

[hollow talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198393175929262271/1199187819164336278/IMG_2071.png?ex=65c1a1af&is=65af2caf&hm=87c424debb4b4492896b77fbf3aeb2391c7bdc982923147d521871b7a81b8863&

[hasty night]

Probably fake compared to official artstyle

[dull estuary]

https://fxtwitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1749629188007666138?t=0xKvQATx_Ks7oPfflFU0Ew&s=19

[stable terrace]

Damn that’s cool

[dull estuary]

Also: EN VA is Allegra Clark

[leaden stag]

Name sounds familiar?

[dull estuary]

https://fxtwitter.com/Ratatos77196870/status/1749501651721818424

[dull yacht]

well, when it was charging up its first big atk, i didnt know it had reflect so i lost cosmos

that made it take awhile

[rustic bluff]

There was a YT video of how CN Genshin players recently are bombing HoYo socials over anni rewards

Time to start a war in the comments

[leaden stag]

Tbf just 3 1 pulls annouced on anni stream of all things feels like a middle finger. If they wanted to do something like that, just post it after the stream

[rustic bluff]

Imo better than nothing but it seems like im the tiny minority on this one

[leaden stag]

Yeah youre right but when you have sister games like hi3 or hsr and theyre suprusingly more generous at least in terns of ani rewards, it leads to a sense of entitlement why they get better stuff but not us

[rustic bluff]

I feel like HSR was a product of it's environment

They didnt want repeat of the utter rioting and so tried to appease the playerbase as much as possible

[gray vector]

You ever just accidentally send a tweet now instead of delaying it.

[rustic bluff]

As for Hi3 its an extremely different genre and playerbase, the free stuff they get looks like a lot but doesnt actually have much sustenance

[leaden stag]

I see

[leaden stag]

Wouldnt it be better to do dmaage control for gi too then?

[rustic bluff]

Different devs

While the same "company," the dev teams are entirely different

[leaden stag]

I see. So they saw what gi did and chose to work on avoidinh said pitfalls

[rustic bluff]

Pretty much

[leaden stag]

Got it

[mighty cove]

didn't knew what to pick

[dull estuary]

1. Armored Core 20th Anniversary Special Disk 02: 01 - Fallout (Metal Wolf Chaos XD Theme Song)

2. Stargazer

[noble tangle]

hoyo isnt obligated to give player shit, sure
but neither is the player obligated to keep playing, or to speak good about the game, or to give it a good review

if they arent giving the player shit, expect the game to get another massive drop in rating

plus
being unable to seperate the differences between Aloy and Ratio is a sign of intentional dishonesty

[rustic bluff]

I agree with htis lol, it baffles me how ppl hate the game yet play it still

Gacha brainrot is real for all of us

[rustic bluff]

How so

Neither are competitve games so it doesnt matter

[noble tangle]

i feel like this is a question that people who doesnt GI or HSR would only ask

[rustic bluff]

I played GI for 400 days

[noble tangle]

yeah it doesnt matter competitively, that doesnt mean there's no differences

Ratio was a character with, get this, actual screen time. He wasnt added in and completely forgotten, he had a story to told and was an interesting character
he was also actually good, with an interesting kit that gave players something to actually play

Aloy had none of that

they gave her in the mail, no constellation and completely forgot about her

[rustic bluff]

Ok ill take that

[jolly spade]

Aloy's just there because funni Horizon collab

That bout it

[rustic bluff]

Skeletor will be back with more disturbing facts

[jolly spade]

She's quickly forgotten after

[rustic bluff]

The decision to make Ratio free tho was not planned due to TGA, but i will say fair point

[jolly spade]

Also look at the starting roster.

Genshin has Amber as a meme, Kaeya as another meme, and Lisa as a .mp3 recording

Star Rail. March has uses with Clara, Dan Heng and Herta exists as a decent baseline of their Paths

[noble tangle]

dan heng was also actually interesting to play

so was march

[jolly spade]

March's only looking a tad difficult to use because you dont have a lot of people that uses Shield, but she made the synergy count even with Preservation Trailblazer

[noble tangle]

im kinda mad they made her freeze have such a low base rate

it was the only way to reliably freeze enemy outside of shield break in the game

you could do stuff like cancel enemy follow up attack with it
or bypass their defensive skill

her shield taunt rate also let her funnel energy into a target aswell

[leaden stag]

I.... Think its more atb depending on the time

[devout thunder]

bam bam bam ba ri

[hardy fractal]

Not just in terms of gameplay, effort put in was also leagues different

Aloy was a collab unit, but was also hampered by absolutely zero in game appearance

Just got announced, dropped for free, and that was it

She had no presence in story, and the collaboration was solely limited to her only

No story, no real marketing

While Ratio is a unit that was planned to be in game from the very start of his concepts- he has a high amount of story appearances, he is integral in the story

He has actual solid lore beyond ‘yeah he exists’ (actually Aloy is probably not even canon) it was obvious that he was originally planned to not be a free unit

His single target DPS is the highest in the game at the moment, and his kit is not inherently flawed or hampered

Even if he gets powercrept, he is still a strong unit- meanwhile Aloy has an incredibly long skill cooldown, low damage even when she just released

Her bow was PlayStation Exclusive (granted it’s still not BiS for her, but still)

TLDR: effort put into both units are vastly different, from gameplay to actual presence in game

[noble tangle]

I think he was always planned to be a free unit actually, the reason they made him so strong was because he wasn't always going to be free

So like later down the line someone will have to decide between a ratio banner and another character and they would have to spend stellar jades so he should be designed like a normal 5s instead

[hardy fractal]

His leaks existed months ago, I don’t think Hoyoverse planned to make him free back then

[noble tangle]

It probably just haven't been datamined yet

[hardy fractal]

More than 9 months ago

He was in the files when the game first released, in the big leak dump

[noble tangle]

Aloy isnt really a 5 star
She's more like a less interesting but easier to play chongyun

[hardy fractal]

Granted, back then it was just weapon models and stuff

[hardy fractal]

Yeah, the Aloy/Ratio comparisons are kind of stupid

They’re not nearly on the same level

People who bring up Aloy as ‘we had Aloy as a free unit too’ have a terrible argument

[noble tangle]

Like seriously
The difference between chongyun and aloy was that aloy was easier to melt and didn't have his E
That was LITERALLY her only advantage

[hardy fractal]

Yeah

Aloy is just terrible

Her kit isn’t even good- it’s not just a powercreep/meta issue

[noble tangle]

I wouldn't say she's terrible, atleast at the time release
She's not amber or anemo mc, she's just...a 4 star...

If you wanted to play melt aloy, you can and she can do some decent damage but that's about it

[hardy fractal]

She is listed as a 5* tho

So…yeah, that’s something to consider

The fact that her kit and damage is 4* level alone is telling

Plus, it’s not just her damage, her kit itself is flawed

[noble tangle]

They didn't even gave her constellation...

[hardy fractal]

I don’t remember the exact details but I remember her mines were difficult to trigger?

[hardy fractal]

Yeah, with cons she might have been better

[noble tangle]

Yeah you can try to surcrose E to gather it

But seriously it's just not worth it

You'd much rather just apply pyro, melt her E, apply pyro again and melt her ult

[hardy fractal]

Yeah

[noble tangle]

Then swap to someone else

[hardy fractal]

If it was just damage it would be fine

But her kit had zero effort + long cooldown feels intentionally limiting for an already meh character

[noble tangle]

Considering they gave her the enhance basic attack on her mines yet it is never used
I'm pretty sure her current playstyle isn't even intentional
They wanted a on field ice dps

[hardy fractal]

Yeah, feels like they wrote it down in a day

Zero real effort

Real slap in the face ngl, Aloy was bad enough that maybe that’s why no other game has collabed with Genshin yet /j

[noble tangle]

back when I played GI the new character always managed to be a stream of disappointment

[hardy fractal]

It was always interesting

First week everyone doomposting

[noble tangle]

You got good one here and there esp the 4 star..
Sayu came out and I genuinely didn't know what they were doing

[hardy fractal]

Then ‘well maybe they aren’t that bad’

[noble tangle]

Did you know Sayu exist?
I forgot

[hardy fractal]

Sayu…right, her

[hardy fractal]

4*s sucked tho

Only good 4* was Kuki and she’s disgustingly broken

Balancing is not hyv’s strong suit

[noble tangle]

I think Heizou was decent and he was the last unit I built before I left

Kuki at the time release was garbage
I think dendro broke her

[hardy fractal]

Dendro made her insane

[dull estuary]

https://fxtwitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1749572030700380453

[noble tangle]

They should of delayed her release if that was the case

[hardy fractal]

Eh, I don’t see why they should have done that

Some units did get much better with the release of Dendro

[noble tangle]

It's just
Not a good thing to disappoint the player, esp in GI environment alreasy

[hardy fractal]

Players are disappointed all the time, but they keep playing

I remember the boycottgenshin hashtag

[noble tangle]

I don't think it's a good idea to release unit that you know suck until 5 months later

[hardy fractal]

Hoyoverse just makes 4*s bad

Until some new mechanic or character accidentally makes them OP

[noble tangle]

They also keep review bombing your game so maybe that's something to be avoided

[hardy fractal]

Won’t change their revenue tho

To this day Genshin is still earning millions

Dev costs are high but what they earn is way more than what they need to offset them

[noble tangle]

Tbf I'd say 4* in hoyo is still better here

[hardy fractal]

In HSR it’s way better

[noble tangle]

HSR definitely has the best designed 4s

[hardy fractal]

Mmm, they’re actually good

Damage usually isn’t terrible for the dpses

And supports can be good too

[noble tangle]

Even the dps are pretty good, they're just limited in what situation they can thrive

[hardy fractal]

Xueyi damage showcases are crazy

[noble tangle]

Or they lack a support that can take advantage of them

[noble tangle]

Dreamy made xueyi 0 cycle against true sting
I didn't think it was possible lol

[hardy fractal]

Yeah

Her weakness break mechanic goes so hard

[thick ridge]

Omg

[thick ridge]

The perfect reaction doesent exi...

@frigid sparrow ayyy finished bloodborn yesterday btw

[jolly spade]

We all should still remember the 1st anniv schtick lmao

Thats where it all started going downhill

[tardy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-vergil-dmc-vergil-devil-may-cry-vergil-dmc5-vergil-turn-around-gif-26185275

[jolly spade]

Hoyo fans are a bit salty they dont have a Raiden Shogun expy lmao

[leaden stag]

I wait, what?

[jolly spade]

We havent gotten Raiden Mei's

Nor Kiana's for that matter in HSR

[leaden stag]

AH...gotcha

sorry, was confused for a moment

[jolly spade]

Well cant blame ya

Raiden Shogun and Raiden Mei...

[leaden stag]

Like wth would the GI players get mad at Archeron

[jolly spade]

Both start with Raiden

[leaden stag]

Least I didn;t mistake it for the Other Other Raiden

The Cyborg and God turned human

[leaden stag]

I just mentioned Raiden goddamit lol

Fortnight skin

[jolly spade]

Well hey at least you can still look tactical

This is the one skin in Fortnight that still has some leeway rather than all their collabs

[noble tangle]

PLEASE dont be DOT

[leaden stag]

True, does look somewhat related to the world

[noble tangle]

i am sick of DOT unit

[leaden stag]

Want her kit leak?

[noble tangle]

go on

is it already on honey impact

nope...

[leaden stag]

Archeron kit

[devout thunder]

They got crimson weave in honkai now

[shrewd walrus]

May I ask?

[jolly spade]

Cancer's a fun strat until you use it too much

[leaden stag]

Sure

[shrewd walrus]

How many gb rn in cp?

[leaden stag]

Yeah...funny enough, I only use dot in SM. Main game I just use attackers

[leaden stag]

You mean CN? I don't think its much bigger than global but might be better to ask #💬・cn-lobby

[noble tangle]

||tf
ANOTHER weakness ignore kit?||

[versed badge]

beidou

[leaden stag]

Another? Oh right, Ruan Mei. But yeah, She's Nihil but her kit is just ||Hunt|| with extra steps

[leaden stag]

Ooh, thanks! I like Beidou va when I was trying out GI

[versed badge]

i dont think i can get her tbh

no laptop + im low on rolls

[noble tangle]

this isnt even nihility at this point

her debuff doesnt do anything except for herself

[versed badge]

i suspect japanese VA is the same as the 2 other raidens

[noble tangle]

that just undermine the whole point of nihility\

[stable terrace]

Yes it is

[leaden stag]

Well, remember. ||Nihil|| is the path of pointless, despair and also stuck in the past. Also, Nihil is debuffs not dot

[leaden stag]

Saber?

[stable terrace]

DoT is Erudition

[versed badge]

rosetta

[leaden stag]

Ah, sorry

[leaden stag]

Not just sorry

[noble tangle]

||this would be like having a harmony character buff itself and only itself||

[stable terrace]

Which is uh… kind of just there RN

[versed badge]

she isnt limited, right?

[stable terrace]

She probably is

[leaden stag]

Sadly, she will be

[noble tangle]

||shit, might aswell call Ratio a nihility since he apply debuff right||

[versed badge]

sad

[leaden stag]

Um....ok I see your point

[versed badge]

i might have to wait for a whole year for a rerun

[stable terrace]

I forgot he was Hunt

[leaden stag]

But I believe she's nihil because of lore reasons

[versed badge]

now i felt like i was robbed of a gem

[noble tangle]

||then make her play like a goddamn nihility||

[leaden stag]

My...condolences. Gachas do work of FOMO

[versed badge]

ig

[leaden stag]

True, Wth is DH destruction when he's a path of a dead aeon while Archeron here is nihil due to lore reasons?

[versed badge]

like, you cant miss out on a hoyo character

if you do, tough luck buddy, wait till the next rerun

[stable terrace]

Why does Acheron actually sound like a Hunt unit

[versed badge]

i was lucky to be able to get kafka

[leaden stag]

Hopefully she doesnt take too long

[leaden stag]

That's the thing, When my friend was talking about her, He was like she's gonna be hunt so her being nihil rn has to be due to lore reasons

[versed badge]

y'all think HSR will introduce skins later on?

[noble tangle]

i think this is just her old hunt kit
it might be changed, because this just doesnt make any sense

[versed badge]

there seems to be a "market" for it

[stable terrace]

I’m pretty sure it was changed somewhere down the road
I can’t remember tho

[leaden stag]

I...actually believe so. Since March party dress has a model but we didn't get to use it. Question is how long till they annouce it? Anni perhaps?

[noble tangle]

the real question is will that skin have special effect

or will it be another disappointment like in GI

[versed badge]

probably not tbh

[leaden stag]

Not sure, but I can def see the 5 stars skin being paid

or least uses stellar jades

[versed badge]

unless they want people to pay for it, by giving buffs

[noble tangle]

no one is gonna pay for a minor model change

hi3 has special effect skin

[leaden stag]

You say that

but GI 5 star skins are mostly that

[noble tangle]

how many people actually bought stuff like Jean or Diluc skin?

[leaden stag]

I can't tell you sorry; but my friend was into the Frinch skin

[hardy fractal]

Oh goodness lmao yeah I remember

[leaden stag]

https://fxtwitter.com/gbf_relink_jp/status/1749718624825123262
Granma is here babee

[versed badge]

was jingliu limited?

or is she non-limited

[hardy fractal]

I don’t think she is- forgot her kit tho, I remember she was a DPS

[hardy fractal]

Limited

[versed badge]

damn

i guess im taking one L after another

[leaden stag]

Only chars that are currently perm are the starting 8/9

[versed badge]

im excited for relink, but idk if it's f2p or not

[leaden stag]

The ones you could spark once you get 300 rolls

[leaden stag]

Gamewise it will be. But for skins and dlcs? Not sure, this is a japanese company

[hardy fractal]

Welt, Clara, Yanqing, Himeko, Bronya, Gepard and uhhh Bailu I think

[versed badge]

i wouldnt mind spending 20$ if it's a paid game, but definitely not 50$

[versed badge]

bronya

[leaden stag]

Gepard

[hardy fractal]

Ahhh right ty

[leaden stag]

Same, 50 bucks on a dlc is asinine

[versed badge]

i meant free to play btw, not pay to play

that, i have no problem with, if it's priced well enough for people to get into the game

[leaden stag]

ooooh.

relink is a paid game

even gbf mobile is somewhat f2p but if you spend it'll def be easier

[versed badge]

what's the pricetag for the game

[leaden stag]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/881020/Granblue_Fantasy_Relink/
https://store.playstation.com/en-my/product/HP0177-PPSA08680_00-GBRELINKDGTLDLX1
Steam store isnt updated yet but around 45-70 USD

Steam

Granblue Fantasy: Relink

Story

Release Date

Jan 31, 2024

▶ Play video

[devout thunder]

really? ew

[versed badge]

oof, 45$

dont think i can pay for that price

[hardy fractal]

pirac-

[devout thunder]

wait, you mean Paid as 1 time pay + DLC, or p2w?

[leaden stag]

Former

[devout thunder]

ah, so Im good

I prefer paying full price + DLC than a fkn gacha

[leaden stag]

I mean....it is a full Triple A game; so I would be more suprised it was free

[devout thunder]

if PGR was like a full price + paid DLC with unit packs, I would choose it for sure. BUT ofc, gacha fkn system makes much more money

[leaden stag]

I do think see Gacha as a necessary evil but I will admit, PGR is one of the better examples of a gacha

even the high quality skins

you can think of as skin dlcs

all the chars, provided you spend reasonably can be obtained as a f2p

[devout thunder]

lets see how GBF relink will be like.

sounds promissing

[leaden stag]

There's a demo on ps4 and ps5

I tried it. Pretty fun, but combat online might need proper communication

[devout thunder]

yeah, I should install it

[leaden stag]

Do note, the demo only has a small cast to try out

[hardy fractal]

Yeah, definitely- gacha is the biggest moneymaker

[leaden stag]

so if you want to know the full roster, let me know

[hardy fractal]

Limbus Company released and PM’s been making bank since

[devout thunder]

I think so. I would try Narmaya and maybe... I forgot the twintail blonde girl

[leaden stag]

Zeta?

[hardy fractal]

Hell they closed a deal with the Switch

[devout thunder]

yes

[leaden stag]

https://tenor.com/view/granblue-fantasy-granblue-fantasy-versus-zeta-crossed-arms-gainax-gif-16674920

[versed badge]

idk why but japanese gachas are relatively weak compared to chinese ones

[devout thunder]

yes

[hardy fractal]

JP gachas are falling behind

[leaden stag]

Maybe more focus on style over substance?

[versed badge]

i dont think i've seen any japanese gacha games being played by a wider audience

[leaden stag]

Also lack of innovation, as weird as it sounds?

[leaden stag]

Fate Grand Order is the exception

[hardy fractal]

Pretty much the most hyped upcoming gachas are from China

[versed badge]

that ig

BA technically but that's a korean game

[hardy fractal]

The only strong ones are very old JP gacha games

FGO, priconne, the other one I forgot the name of

[versed badge]

people mostly play gachas from china or korea

i.e. arknights, limbus company, etc

[hardy fractal]

But that’s mostly because they have high playerbase retention and IPs…newer JP gachas just end up fizzling out

[leaden stag]

Only gacha I currently play that's jp is Taimanin and Gbf

[devout thunder]

KR, JP, at least you can expect non/less censors (not entire true as we see censor in Nikke).

[leaden stag]

And even Taimanin I play due to every event gives a freebie

[hardy fractal]

A lot of them haven’t caught up to the times, gacha mechanics and the like are done in a much more old fashioned way

[leaden stag]

Tbf, recent trends, most jp gachas are cashgrabs based on a manga or anime

Only one I would say otherwise is maybe Taktop

and Uma Musume

[hardy fractal]

Right, Uma Musume

[leaden stag]

Both primarily since the anime was made to promote the game, but said games took a while to cook

[hardy fractal]

That was what I was thinking of

[devout thunder]

btw, I know it is not exactly a good way to measure a AAA game, but how many hours in general GBF relink takes to finish the main story?

[leaden stag]

To their credit, they are quite good

[devout thunder]

20h?

[hardy fractal]

Aye

[leaden stag]

https://noisypixel.net/how-long-is-granblue-fantasy-relink/
According to this 20 hours main story

[hardy fractal]

Rare to find a JP gacha that’s popular outside of a certain IP

[devout thunder]

oh, not bad

[hardy fractal]

all the ones that really earn money are either older games, or stuff like Dragon Ball

[leaden stag]

So yeah, tl;dr JP devs need to step up

[versed badge]

i guess japan has a different take on gacha than korea or china

[hardy fractal]

Yeah

[leaden stag]

Even Nikke

[hardy fractal]

Unfortunately they’re not going to survive in this climate

[leaden stag]

which is fanservice galore

has a rather addictive gameplay loop

[devout thunder]

wait, you play as Gran or Djeeta or something? And in fight with who you want? How the story works?

[hardy fractal]

CN companies just have a better grasp of what people want nowadays, while JP companies struggle with that

[leaden stag]

even if admittedly, there are level gaps

[versed badge]

not even BA and arknights are enough to be a wake up call for japanese devs

despite how popular they are in japan

[leaden stag]

1. Main Character can be changed anytime outside missions
2. Both play the same, just different animations
3. Mostly having the mc around but you caan control other chars in story missions

[hardy fractal]

BA, Arknights, Genshin, everything

CN and KR are kings of gacha

[devout thunder]

NOICE, Zeta I will play with

[leaden stag]

Gran fights more like form, using strength while Djeeta fights with more fitness, being more agile

[versed badge]

ig there's a certain stigma about not wanting to adapt, in japan atleast

[hardy fractal]

Mayhaps, yeah

Maybe the newer generation will do so

But right now the market in Japan is looking pretty bleak

[versed badge]

best example i could give is the automotive industry, chinese car makers are already making strides by selling EVs abroad while japanese car companies still stuck with diesel cars, or hybrids

[hardy fractal]

Yeah, exactly

[devout thunder]

I see. Well, I hope Relink goes well on sales, proving Gachas can also be AAA to earn good amount of money.

[hardy fractal]

CN is focusing on exports now

Not solely marketing to people inside the country

[leaden stag]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/dec/28/japan.worlddispatch
Yeah....Even when JP PM and Emperor spoke about their korean routes, most of JP ignored it

[hardy fractal]

While Japan is still stuck in a lot of ways (economy is a big factor)

[leaden stag]

It will; wanna know why? Go Check out the ps4 and ps5 versions and see what goodies they have

[versed badge]

japan is stuck in the past, socially

if it keeps the old habit, it wont benefit japan

[hardy fractal]

That too

It’s all up to the younger generation

[leaden stag]

Don't be suprised if Japan doesnt exist in the 22nd century

[hardy fractal]

Culture and the like is slow to change

[versed badge]

ig it's a taboo to talk about the royal family's personal life

[hardy fractal]

earthquake

[leaden stag]

Most of the youths are (understandably )moving to greener pastures

[hardy fractal]

Moreso about the purity of the Japanese royal bloodline + political and historical tensions between SK and Japan

[devout thunder]

I will check. In the end, I only play gachas because there is no close counterparts for PCs and Consoles as 1 time pay+DLC.

[leaden stag]

Ok that is true but I meant as in more the People themselves, not the country called japan

[hardy fractal]

Ah

Yeah, birth rates…

CN is going through the same thing but the population is huge already- Japan doesn’t have a lot of people to begin with

[leaden stag]

No I meant due to this, Bunch of good shit for the mobile players; and a snazzy new skin admittedly

It's like FF selling ff16 but includes an exclusive skin and mount

it would sell like hotcakes

despite the exclusivity to the PS5

[devout thunder]

🤔

[leaden stag]

Basically, you know how dvds used to include all the bts or extras? Think of it like those, but modernized

[toxic sonnet]

Do we still not have a wuthering waves release date? 😩 even if it's a rough one. Like maybe summer this year?

[leaden stag]

Def this year but unconfrimed when exactly sorry

[devout thunder]

its a clever move indeed

[versed badge]

i feel like younger people in japan should be more involved in politics, because that's the only way they can pull japan out of the traditional vacuum left by the older gen

[toxic sonnet]

cool cool, thanks friend

[devout thunder]

someone playing CBT2, tell me if that 50/50 BS still there

[hardy fractal]

July 14th

[leaden stag]

funny enough due to this, second hand copies of versus and versus rising are cheap af for the ps4 and ps5

[devout thunder]

LUL

EW

[toxic sonnet]

Idk anything about that but knowing Kuro, they always listen to their fanbase. So I'm sure they'll remove it by the time the game comes out

[hardy fractal]

Still subject to change

Kuro is probably testing stuff

[toxic sonnet]

hmmmm where did u get that from~ or is it just a guess?

[hardy fractal]

Gacha has changed a lot, apparently

[hardy fractal]

Sorry mate, just messing with you

The fact is that we don’t know

[toxic sonnet]

yeah figured as much lmaoo

[devout thunder]

ewwww

[hardy fractal]

It is probably this year though

[toxic sonnet]

guess we'll wait and see

[hardy fractal]

Should be before October since that’s when license expires

[toxic sonnet]

licesne?

[hardy fractal]

Publishing license

[leaden stag]

NDA liceense

[toxic sonnet]

ahhhh

[leaden stag]

basically keep your mouth shut or get fined

[hardy fractal]

TLDR: in China when you register a trademark you have to release the game within X amount of time or you can’t release it

[toxic sonnet]

[devout thunder]

so I see 50/50 is a plague now.

[toxic sonnet]

oh damn

[leaden stag]

cant they renew the thing?

[hardy fractal]

I think it’s 2 years? Not sure

[hardy fractal]

Nope

[leaden stag]

Ooh, actually a pretty good system

[hardy fractal]

Been like this for gachas since time immemorial

[leaden stag]

penalizes patent and copyright trolls

[devout thunder]

not PGR, nor AL, nor BA

[hardy fractal]

Yeah, not bad

[jolly spade]

More like since Genshin popularised it

[toxic sonnet]

But Kuro broke the rule with PGR. And I really hope they do the same with WW

[jolly spade]

Not any of the older games

[hardy fractal]

Alchemy Stars, Genshin, HI3

Uhhh let me think

[toxic sonnet]

exactly. It and HI3

[leaden stag]

Brb, gotta run and print

[devout thunder]

genshin has 50/50

[hardy fractal]

Don’t remember anything else atm

[devout thunder]

HI3 doesnt have

[hardy fractal]

Same, but I don’t expect them to make it the same as PGR

they still have to make money

[jolly spade]

Kuro's a small company

At this point whatever goes

[hardy fractal]

I hope 70/30 but that’s kind of a stretch

[devout thunder]

"make money". you mean lots of money. Cause AAA games make money not been gachas.

[toxic sonnet]

Yeah that's true. Maybe make it take longer to get a character or something. Just make it guaranteed

[hardy fractal]

Either way it won’t deter me from playing unless it really is totally abysmal

[toxic sonnet]

same tbh

[hardy fractal]

Open world games have high development costs so they’ll need a much higher income than PGR does

[toxic sonnet]

even if it is like genshin, I'd play. But it'd be a huge QOL thing. And it might make me wanna play more

[hardy fractal]

Not to mention how WW is simultaneous global release, so translators and the like will have to be paid for their work much earlier than PGR

[devout thunder]

only time will tell

[toxic sonnet]

mhm

[hardy fractal]

they’re also localizing in multiple languages

[devout thunder]

passing the 1~6month honeymoon, lets see how it goes

[hardy fractal]

Mmmm, yeah

[toxic sonnet]

wait will the story have full english voice acting?

or do we not know that yet? I really hope they do something like reverse 1999 did

[hardy fractal]

I have some faith, especially with how Kuro has handled things before

[hardy fractal]

Presumably yes

[toxic sonnet]

that'd be amazing

[hardy fractal]

Story had full CN voice acting so other languages is highly likely

Side stories I’m unsure of

[toxic sonnet]

yeah sides are fine

[hardy fractal]

Please Kuro give long/important side stories voice acting

[toxic sonnet]

making it only the main story would make it feel more special too

[toxic sonnet]

maybe only sides that relate to the main storyt

yeah exactly

[leaden stag]

True but also lazy if cn and jp dubs have it

[toxic sonnet]

guess we'll just wait and see

[versed badge]

i dont know anything about game development, but i suspect the first half is making the game, and the other half is dubbing (if the game choses to)

[wispy raft]

I wanted to ask something for any Hoyoverse games players. Anyone can provide the time?

[versed badge]

sure

[wispy raft]

Did hoyoverse ever once provided an exclusive live event for any of their games anniversary celebration that isn't part of Anime NYC or Anime Expo?

Something like this for example
https://www.youtube.com/live/QA1ZLpkcaZ8?si=hVQWvi007tIispOd

[versed badge]

i think the equivalent would be hoyofair, but idk if hoyofair's a digital event or physical event

[wispy raft]

I'm asking for a physical community live event

Hoyofair is mostly a accumulation of artistic creators work

[versed badge]

oh, i see

iirc honkai used to have physical event tours around SEA

for genshin, no idea

[versed badge]

those are usually like, restaurant collabs far as i know

but me personally, i dont think mihoyo has ever done something like an exclusive live event

only like collaborations with real world places

[wispy raft]

I see. I'm asking coz if Blue Archive can organize something. I don't see why hoyoverse doesn't.

I think even their concerts aren't live no?

[versed badge]

i suspect it's because 1. because mihoyo has alot of followers around the world now, it'd be harder to house a more than 50k people

let alone rent a huge space for it

because most stadium can house upwards to 25k people

and 2. it's harder to sell tickets when you dont know how many people will turn up to the event

and 3. the cost of hosting such a large event, that includes hiring guards and paramedics on the scene

if you say, start a mihoyo event in indonesia, millions of people will attempt to turn up to the event, while in reality, 10k people would be at the event

[wispy raft]

I mean size doesn't matter tho right? If they sold out venue tickets, they could just stream it for others who weren't lucky.

[versed badge]

i guess, but obv people within that area wont be happy that they cant go inside such an exclusive event for them

or people who wanted to travel miles for the event

[wispy raft]

So you're saying tantrums will occur for the unlucky ones?

[versed badge]

yeah, ik stuff like that happens alot

also because mihoyo fans

[wispy raft]

huh...I know I shouldn't generalize the fanbase but it feels like you are implying mihoyo fans are not sensible enough

[versed badge]

they're just the vocal minority, most mihoyo fans arent like this

but newer ones usually are

(im talking ones that started from genshin)

not saying genshin fans are bad, but y'know

[wispy raft]

well since their games are all separate dev teams I wanted to know if any of the currently running games have at least arranged a physical live event celebration

[versed badge]

i feel like hi3 has done one beforehand, cant say the same for genshin because they're usually collabs with a restaurant or a cafe

HSR has yet to do one

[wispy raft]

HI3...all I've seen from them is online concerts sadly

[versed badge]

hmm, idk much really

since my first mihoyo game was genshin

now i just play HSR because genshin is that boring

[wispy raft]

I tried to get into hoyo games but they just don't click with me

I mean I'm here in PGR when I could be playing HI3

[versed badge]

i only played genshin because my friends were playing it

it was fun at first, then it got real boring

i couldnt be half assed to grind everything in one go

[wispy raft]

ngl HSR reminded me of a game I played in the past during the psp era

[versed badge]

persona?

[wispy raft]

more obscure than that

[hardy fractal]

Devil Survivor?

[versed badge]

hm?

[wispy raft]

wait Imma look for a sample gameplay vid

[hardy fractal]

Mainline SMT games?

[wispy raft]

no it's this

https://youtu.be/nXA6_qQa5ZM?si=B3uq2gdiA2oHTjNV

[versed badge]

never heard of it, tbh

[wispy raft]

you wouldn't...it's in the psp era

[versed badge]

i owned a PSP before

until it malfunctioned

[wispy raft]

but I said it was obscure

the HSR game structure is strictly close to mana khemia

[fervent flicker]

hop in the carzuha

[versed badge]

no