#📨・general-help
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Fix this. 4 sig 4 cot is fine, but your Honse should use 4 pc bath in this case.
ok ok
why red
is huaxu reialable ?
reliable for what
nope
Is qu still viable?
dead
We have for SSS
Damn
What's a top dps for glacio now
Man I really dont want to spend my Yellow voucher and BC on pulls rn

Ye dude im dead
so there is no idea for SSS Luna, SS3 Ish and SSS Nirvatia?
I only have em all on SS
Nirvatia is main dps in that case
I didn't expect her gameplay would be that simple lmao
what do I build on her then?
sig and cottie?
and ish on davinci?
I'd say 2pc cottie 2pc darwin
but yeah, easier rotation atleast ( haven't tried her on team yet, I dont even have any memos on her yet )
Her yellows get buffed hard from SSS
Guess SS And SS3's just needa wait
Also if you have SSS wata than he'll score more for the team than SS3 ish
All SS3 nihil units is achievable for f2p if you haven't spent last patch selector yet, and we have a good run of that
Invest
2.12.12.1 121 111
Luna SS3
4 Cleo 2 Cottie 2 Eins | 6 atk 6 sign move
Glorious Afterglow
Nanami Cub SS
Ishmael SS3
4 Sothoth 4 cottie | 6 atk 6 sign move
Dead Line Timing, Domian Deconstruction
Ishmael Cub S
Nirvatia SS3
4 Davinci 4 Bathlon | 6 yellow 6 class
Superconducting Axial Ray
Nirvatia Cub S
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My dumbass self picked nanami
I need to try bath nirvatia but I already know she'll need cottie at SSS
Not a bad idea too tbh
ahh this is gonna be expensive
I already have bad luck with the memory resonances regularly overspending the tokens
good thing I currently have my nirvatia on my standard support set with no resonances
but rereso ish is gonna be expensive 😭
Tf is Darwin gonna do

Mf she have ult1 she can already trigger 4cot
Yea, I heard from this Indonesian pgr players ( kuripu or sum ), nanami actually still highly usable in almost every effects team
Wait does 4 cottie give extra dmg in general or just for signature?
but then I remember I don't even have resources to build those teams, ( I uses nanami only for lightn and plasma for now )
Aight I'm gonna test it
Teddy main, Wanshi subdps

And for the support?
Anyone you can slot there. Lilith, Vera, even Ayla.
Do you notice lag if you play on anotger region?
no, it's a client side game
Why not just test in nihil wz?
takes too long and higher room for error
rather just see the raw difference anyway
4pc guin
Guin eins
Wait a min
I might try eins on oblivion
I do have SSS Wata but he has no weapon resonances
Ish got 2
That might still work
Although not having domain deconstruction is kind of yikes
shred field still nuts
I suppose so
I got wata from a free standard pull because I started with luna patch
I never bothered to get resonances for his sig
and my current weapon usbs are being saved for alpha
still try it out
Current Nirvatia dps score
Although now that I went back and labbed I might have discovered a way to do significantly more
Is this SSS Nvidia?
alright gotta wait to next week though because that is when voucher resets and weekly for service shop resets
that is when I will finally finish my SSS Nvidia
best set for SSS Nvidia definitely 4pc sig 4pc cottie
I got this score with my Setup
Assuming you have no SSS Ish that is
try 2pc eins on her
4pc guin is too inconsistent ngl
sure I can try that
Ok yeah no her damage is absolutely disgusting
4pc bath might be better than 4pc guin on any build
Or any 4pc ele set for that matter
The shred on top of personal damage is nuts
Yeah no that's disgusting
it wouldn't 
any ele set works
Yeah she can almost kill Overseer in 2 rots
unfortunately I couldn't get a better one with 2 einstein
yeah testing 4pc ele in warzone rn
still love my nihil though was always one of my highest scoring teams (before nirvatia only surpassed by my ignition (managed to get 10 mil with this before)) now with nirvatia nihil is better by 1 mil for now

sss luna and ish cub wtf
well... I went all in with my mining ores
that reminds me I need to check ores to see how far I can get with nirvatia cub
unfortunate, not far enough
Are Vanguards/Compositors/Uniframes/Transcendants worth it?
I mean u can get a SSS+ in like 90 pulls
But why Epitaph?
because of way better shred field than ishmael
Nop, they are a concept abandoned 5 years ago
They're not
dead
https://huaxu.app/na/players/20371963/characters what should i do with my members can anyone help
Explore the 27 characters of Sayo from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
nana luna nirvatia/lilick overseer
wanshi lcw ish(vera/nirvatia/lilick + teddy if you can afford unlocking her) emperor
death on powered
If you can get SS Teddy just do that
ty but wat about memories, are my current memories fine
why is everyone harmoless
nana harmo heisen
luna 4 dv 2 eins
nirvatia/lilick/vera 4 guin 2 gloria
wanshi harmo jiyuan
lcw move lunas set to her
ish move the 3rd set to her
For low invest accounts make nirvatia main dps
can send her off to powered then ig
who is lcw? 
what amplifier are you guys using for lightning teams? Im using S8 Feral with SS3 Liv and SS3 Nanami but i have SS3 Nirvatia, SS7 Ishmael and SSS Specter.
with davinci memories?
dv guin
okay thank you! 🙂
hai 
hi
can u not do wz 
I need them HT mats you see
but i wanna retain 
then u gotta sink Nityanka
too much diff
if I had 3S ish I would
whelness bracket again
more rc, better packs

Cheaper
time to move to ching chong
An SSS costs me $200 in NA, in CN it would cost me $120-$150
fund me
A cheaper option for Global is to buy RC via Lootbar
With the risk that one day those RCs will be negative




3rdparty
also its counted in a patch or total?
Total
average 88-94$ per 648 rc
just buy through saudi coda
I've noticed that many people use VPNs there 
My last 5K RC were on lootbar, if they ever appear as negative, I will mention it here

i dont even bother with vpn if i top up on glb, i just throw in 200 and dont care 
gib 3S ish so i can 22m
U funny

idk if its just me
My nihil comp isn’t even built yet lol
but cn seems too attached to cottie ish
My comp too weird
the only gud way to play ish sir
actually not so true anymore
Nirvatia build finalized or still testing?
u wanna know what zaza ive been cooking
until i see 31m with non-cot ish, it is true
Suggest me what to fill in the 2 reso

while X or Y strat might work, the real test is if it can top the scores
Wadahell type build
if it can't = it ain't good enough
Domain deconstruction
Domain deconstruction
i only trust scores and builds attached to it tbh
thats how you end up with another vera situation
same lol
Vera situation was actually started in gph beforehand bruh, wdym
should i follow the game´s guide or the website´s guide? i have her SS rank 4 rn, and i think SSS is very possible with her shards from the service store and the end game mode
None
None

bruuh
I didn’t even need to read the whole message
Here and #📨・meta-help are your best bets for builds tbh
Saw 2 doodoo builds
what do you mean ishsob
Her builds are still in testing 
thx bro
i still vividly remember telling someone that Vera will be carrying fire and they called me dumb for thinking she'll be anything but qte bot, oh how the tables have turned 
i mean vera was at like half potential for ages in cn until glb got their hands on her
no, it was globaluls calling vera bad
💀
or rather, gph "laos"

so reliable they wouldn't even light up a stove if you gave them a lighter
i dont recall scores reflecting what they do now
well
pre wata leap
i forget the timeline with that
cn isn't always right either ofc lmao
scores are still overall lower on glb-side
that said so is amount of players so lower flux and so on, you get the point
yuh
ngl i sometimes miss certain raging "cn lao" that used to frequent gph
the amount of laughter i had over his 'takes'.. ahh good times

i'll give u a hint and you'll know it who it is 
mr "qu is bad, i quit on wanshi patch"
tbf the qu arguments were warranted
theres still plenty to go around with ish and nirv
you just cant get too crazy with it
with this big boulder of a unit sat on all your potential rots
luna's ult dmg with hold ult is..........
oh right, you can also miss luna's qte
glory 2.0
ive missed her hold basic, not even when there wasnt a target, but when she was locked on
ive missed her ult somehow??
lilith is still the worst offender on this with her red orb
and ofc qte
mob wz nightmares
i was very happy to see rosetta dark
purely so i would never have to do this red orb again
I'm a new player and I have Luna, Ishmael, and Nirvatia. I heard they're a good team, but I don't know what their roles are in the team (ex: whos the dps, support, etc) and how to use them
good news theyre all dps and all support
I see
so does it matter who is starter and whos leader and the team position?
yes
luna - glorified dps (needs leap, she's slowly on her deathbed)
ishmael - subdps/dps (luna wishes to be half as fast)
nirvatia - the gal that makes them both do more damage but also does damage herself
if leap was so good why isnt there a leap 2
sir, leap entropy first
so he can come back to phys team
I doubt hanying would get replace yet
unfortunately breaker is like attacker leap
lightning amp would be nice too
selena here to stay
no attacker no qte nuke unfortunately they have an identity now
you can have a team without an attacker (burn team) but you can't really have a team without a tank/breaker
fair enough
we did last ts
because this dumb rosetta ult missed
also hanying is there
the only reason you need to not play a team shes in
im glad that i have an access to low invest cn acc to check wzs
so if there's phys wz i skip the week on my own acc
lmfao
i mean, the reset happens on sunday 10pm my time for cn
so i can check before going to bed
as well as do dailies
i could check by huaxu but i still gotta do dailies so ya know

Hi there
Yes
Ty
What is Niravtis bed memory build
No her memory build in bed 
SSS3 Nvidia? 4pc sig set 2pc cottie harmonize cottie for 4pc effect yellow top sig bottom
Read that as SS3 for a sec lol
What are the other members' invest?
I think I asked it earlier, but I forgot.
In case of SSS Nvidia, and SS3 Luna and Ish, does Nvidia become the main DPS?
Definitely main dps atp
Is that mem set still the same if everyone is SSS+ in that team besides nirvati? 
6pc davinci harmonize eins yellow top class bottom
Good to hear.
I kinda got bored of Ish rotation. Nirvana is much easier in comparison.
hi extaria
guys i have a question for people who played since the beginning. how were the collab characters holding up in the meta and could there be another collab in the future or reruns
there have been 3 collabs, 1 of them was an A rank so forget about it
the first collab happened in gen 1 times and the last one happened in gen 3 times, they reran the first collab once and thats it
nier automata in gen 1
black rock shooter in gen 2
devil may cry in gen 3
we probably wont see any collab soon
Wuwa x pgr 
would be fire
but yeah id say low possibility for nier automata but high possibility for black rock shooter rerun
ok got it thanks brah
anything new on nirv build?
im using 4 piece barcelo
Guys I have a question, I want to play nanami solo . Need to luna and lilith level 80 and hypertune?
4 barcelo 2 cottie
there is a build for very high invest, lower invest you need to wait
tyty
For ht, nana can do. Lilith and luna no need ht also no need memo reso
luna on 4dv 2 eins 2 gloria
lilith on 4guin 4samantha
nanami 4herschell 4Heisen
for zaza?

What ht ?
hypertune
Hypertune
Very high invest as in SSS and SSS+, etc?
Can Heisen be changed to 4cotie?
Think so, I don't have the build, they were talking about it earlier today
maybe Fatelao has the build in question for high invest
lower invest is just 4DV 4Bathlon afaik
4dv 4guin
oh, saw that build too
333 invest

I see
You can try and see how it goes. I'm not sure about nanami build

4cot only for ignition zaza
my nanami is 1 away from ss


the gap between ss3 and sss nirv is not that big right?
used some too yea
How about service shop
Nana , Luna ,Lilith is ignition ?
Free copy + 30 service shards = ss0
- 20 service shards = ss2
- 17 ppc shards = ss4 and 1 shard leftover

Go grind more
If vera , nana, Lilith can ignition?
I banish you to eternal cursed waves grinding
How’s the nihil mald
Damn so much free time

not really
i just use a few hours to grind each
as in a few hours to finish all of them
sign luna or ishamel?

Found the rot but my 2s luna & nirvatia sht
So, a lot of free time
-# most of my grinding is either during classes or from midnight to 2 am
Send


how do i explain to someone that epitaph will be replaced because he is gen 2
also how do i explain to someone that gen 2,5 doesnt exist
Gen 2.5?
Its just like levisha rot with adjustment
Ros > luna > nvidia

Luna first swap instead of nvidia
Also i came up with ros rot which seems better
Epitaph is technically gen 3 now

if no affix on debut its gen 2
you cannot give any argument to change this fact
decyrptor is gen 3 but epitaph is not and will never be gen 3
epitaph is gen 2
and old is older generation
2.5
And old is more than 2years now
25% shred on debut
(I think)
why are you two even arguing he would not be gen 2
Older than wuwa release
Because he is gen 2.5

what makes a unit gen 2
Timelag
does epitaph have timelag calculation the second you unlock him?
Ofc he does
Affix on debut
and did decryptor have it?
yes
did shukra have it?
no
did epitaph have it?
no
Huhu
Because unc is gen 2.5
why would he be gen "2,5"?
Does the affix leap make him 2.5 or something
Because of 25% shred
No
there is no "gen 2.5" dont listen to it

No matter how u twist it, as long as u have unc leaped (and u should) he is gen 3
why would shred amount be half equal to having affix on debut?
And this according to the community's definition of "gens"
Because every gen 3 tank have 25% shred
every gen 3 tank has 100% element why does epitaph have 10% physical?

Because he's gen 2
finally
Gen 2.5
@ember kettle Send Bianca booty
epitaph is like honorary gen 3
moonhidora has a somewhat decent reason for epitaph to be gen 2,5 what is your reason for epitaph to be gen 3
The leap buffed him so immensely that it's strange to lump him in with the other gen2s
Crimson Weave gen 3 confirmed 
damage numbers of shukra are so weird its not fair to consider her gen 2 but we do
She is
scire is gen 3
Then alpha is the worse gen 3
Yep
helper
No, her damage numbers still far outclass Gen 1 by a huge margin
And in the case of epitaph, its not just his damage
its his shred, rotation speed, qte making shred field and affix all together

rotation speed has nothing to do with generation now that is the worst argument given
Then Bridget is gen 3
did you think bridget is gen 1
I am trying to tell you that wata's leap buffed him by so much that it is strange to still consider him gen2
Dont focus on the individual things like rotation speed
okay lets keep him meta and replace pyroath then
Consider the whole
No
Well, yea but that was never a question 
I mean, that is exactly what is gonna happen if kamui is fire breaker
No
straight up pyroath is getting booted
and what will happen if pyroath gets leap will she be gen 4 now
because one of you guys said limpidity is gen 4
No
What even is gen 4 now
Because of literal qte nuke and the timelag core at 3s
Now you are talking about something else entirely.
I would say that if her leap buffs her so immensely that she becomes widely used alongside eventual gen4 chars... sure?
but that is a hypothetical
what do we do if tlc on moves is given to pyroath as well? count her gen 4?
meh
so i was thinking on building my team around nanami startrail, lucia crimson weave and geiravor but im in the beggining. i just got daemonissa is her worth investing while i dont have the ones i want?
This is not gen 4
there is no reason for pyroath to not have tlc on moves is there?
lets put that into her leap
The qte nuke(literal)
daemonissa is a meta unit, so yes investing is worth. Dont use pull currency though
So?
new mechanic means new generation?
also dont invest crimson weave heavily, she is not used in meta
scire is gen 3 btw
She is
(But still cool to play ofc)
past leap
i disagree but whatever
who are you telling this to
The guy who just talked about crimson weave
yes, but it has to be global
thats why qte nuke for ss3-sss attackers doesn't count
Eh?
isnt that global
all the new attackers are having it
so in 2 months we will decide if we are moving rosetta teddy nirvatia and kamui up to gen 4
But liv has a LITERAL qte nuke that
Stop making random absurd hypotheticals bro 
Global means EVERYONE gets it, it's not class locked
what is random about it
or absurd
Ah like that
tlc is global
did i say anything bad about your claims
affixes are global
@south dragon maxava thinks epitaph is gen 3 because "his rotation is fast"
qte nuke being gen 4 is so dumb
way to misrepresent my point
you said that
He is gen 3 but not because of that
I have already told you to not look at the specific individual reasons but the leap as a whole
how absurd isnt it
Ur gonna keep the build ur using rn or nah
Wait why are we fighting for a fan term
then why did you include rotation speed as a reason for him to be gen 3
exactly
ong
The guy is getting super heated over nothing
Genuinely
He does tbf 
because it was one of the factors, obviously? The leap buffed him immensely, including in his rotation speed
That rotation speed is also part of why he is strong right now
Eh
Its just nvidia on sig cot (maybe ill try guin later)
Ros 4dv 4bath
Luna 4sig 4cot
Go try guin rn

i was just arguing normally about my point, you came here and said this
"Stop making random absurd hypotheticals bro
"
The biggest thing wata has over other tanks is shred field
🍿
Me can't until 9hrs later
Have work
you are trying to cause a bigger argument
He also has the CD reduction all "Gen 3" tanks get at SSS
@ember kettle Fund me Bianca 3s R3
J*b
genuinely one of the best bots in the game
What’s the rose rot ur doing
calm down a little lol
Message said u changed it?
i am calm but you are trying to do the opposite
that is not the case
Hypocrite
then stop making absurd comments

What's absurd?
You misinterpret the shts that everybody says in here
Swap in > 2x blue + hold ba > 2x blue white select red and hold ba > ult > can hold ba before swapping out
not now chinese borgur
Guys, how about you take this to usual place for drama AKA #💬・pgr-general
its not drama its just a normal discussion
kinda
Oh wait 2x
whatever it is, take it to general

Bruh
anyway
Sir, this is the general help chat
Seems more like an argument that doesn't fit the gen help memo
Not the general drama chat
No red before changing form?
Wait
2x actually 
I cannot do anything about the fact that you misinterpret everything I say 
Why we need 2 blue pings
Isn’t 1 enough to change forms for us
I mean 2 separate 2 blue
idk if its on purpose or not but idc now
How about u try it with dv bath
No red?
Energy not enough
We’re 3s
Whoops
does white orb require energy
Mb fatelao
Sure

@ember kettle Fund me my love
let her sleep
So is nvidia build out or nah
Me also tho

It's been 2 weeks
where is build
Nvidia random reso
Ros invalid reso
Very invest dependant
depends on invest
I assume you're looking for SSS team invest tho right?
3S or no rights

i can tell thank you
Im looking for every invest build
he is a helper he needs even S builds
Although I don't think I would particularly trust you for those 
SS3 Nvidia uses 4DV 4Bathlon afaik
bathlon?
yup
why bathlon
luna converts it
Not guin?
guin seems to be worse
It would be funny if Luna can use element shred memos
Support: 6pc davinci 2pc eins Yellow top class bottom
Main DPS: 4pc sig set 4pc cottie yellow top sig bottom
Dlt?
6pc dv 
Guin underperforms from my experience
Ain't no way
Yeh, nvidia?
I am not perfect but as far as I could tell guin just didnt fare as well
#📨・meta-help talked a lot about SS3 as well
6dv is crazy
could it be the official death of guinevere?
why stop at 6? go 8 dv 
Does Nanami startrail need her sig?
absolutely yes
Harmo lvl 3 plz
Should I hyper tune this 
WHY DONT WE STILL HAVE THIS
WE ARE GETTING 6 PIECE SETS BUT STILL NO FURTHER HARMONY
Why do u actually want it 
Nvidia? Ill try guin again and see if its really bad so not yet
just think of what crazy builds you can pull off
I just bought 4 sig for now
I Lwk might not have enough coins to even get 12 reso

Gotta get more
Wow 20m so pro
I'm getting atleast 25m this week
wtf is that

wtf is this
Firegod lee
this is a beautiful work of art 
literally
Heisen on Lee
@worldly zealot sorry btw if i was mean

K whel
🪞
No u were just a bit dum 
no
(It's fine)
scire does not keep up to anything of gen 3 units
guys stop
Im not gonna add to it again 


But yea its all good

do you guys prefer affix to have separate gameplay/moves or do you prefer affix to be auto triggered damage type changes?
idc, less tedious the better
Ermmm
Remove affix
Fr

Especially Ray
New to the game btw how often are new chars released here
Ye
every 42 days
Every 35 to 42 days
Hey ray good
K whel
cant wait for alpha
Ofc you defend ray
Remove affix? Nonono add 6 more
Kamui phys breaker 
I bow to kurogames
Pls kuro delete phys team
Let unc live another patch
we need pyroath to be saved more than hanying to be killed

Pyroath is dead
By kamui btw

you know kamui would 99% come with alpha leap
Ofc kamui fire/ray breaker after all
Is the powercreep in this game like bad?

My will depends on beta next week
DID I SAY
Haan leap
ALPHA
I MEANT
Phys I live
Fire I die
I play on pc and wanna buy RC but neither paysafecard nor googlepay work when I try to buy them from in-game. Can I use codashop to buy RC?
2nd alpha leap aintnoway
MY BRAIN THOUGHT OF ALPHA
new = good
OMFG
Good idea
Nuh uh Roach leap
Make cw great again again
How do I get this to go away 
Yk what, wanshi leap better
go look at your members
Brother eugh
when new unit comes out the older unit of the same role and element is auto F tier
you can, yes
I am looking at them.
Very intently.
Oh so are the old units just not usable anymore?

This fcker
Does it matter if I choose the ios or android bundle top-up options for pc?
This is like the single exception in the game, literally
What field do u even work in fate
explain this
Lazing on discord in job
Office work
and it's only because Vero is horrible

Btw do we have what memories to use with Nirvatia yet?
Hot.
Wives.
Gathered.
invest level?
meant to this.
for the pc client, no, cuz that one sees all type of rc now
but just choose the type of phone you have anyway

what?
Balancing team was high asf designing her
okay, thank you very much
I explained it.
They are Hot Wives, that were gathered!
but her animations and visual effects are so fcing cool
-# Gathering Wives
No paid
Its just training so can slacc off
She's BORING ASF
Literally gen 1 unit
like do you already have nihil SSS or not?
didnt she take her life because her music was bad do i remember it wrong

No she is S still. I haven't bought any tokens yet.
Business falls when fate becomes a worker
like as in ish and oblivion invest?
Idk.
But like we got artists who bit ears off, so that's not too strange if so.
I have no idea. I started like a week before this patch. 
Training? What kind of training?
her dodge animations and effects alone are better than all dmc poc animations and effects combined
||no, she went to experience the things she wrote about, ended up on an actual mission and died - that was her 1st mission btw||
Why poc catching strays for no fcking reason???

born to be mid forced to be mid
i hate dmc poc bro its a disgrace to dmc
Selena is peak
nah
And this is innarguable
she is mid not too bad not too good
Can half anni come out already I need my 3s
Oh new than, best build for Nirvatia then is:
SSS< 4pc sig set 2pc bath harmonize bath yellow top sig bottom
SSS>= 4pc sig set 2pc cottie harmonize cottie yellow top sig bottom
Every contrary statement should be punished with death
Fabio on delulu pills 
if solon did this it wouldnt be for lucia somehow
pgr keeps ignoring the main character
nanami gets more shine bianca gets more shine alpha gets more shine
does kuro know lucia even exists now
no
Bianca gets more shine? I think we all know what she gets more of 
alpha is solons favorite
skin after 4 years is wild
Favourite money cow
They gonna keep milking Alpha fans
thank you so much solon
For this lame ass skin
because they KNOW they will eat up anything alpha related
either most broken unit or not even meta
there is no in between
She will be broken there is no doubt
Is kamui and alpha limited like liv
Except for ss0
Mid, like any other attacker
there is
Because ss0 no rights
Broken at sss
there is huge doubt
And once more in English?
There is no doubt
There is only certainty
Best unit in the game at sss, worst at ss0
solon can make bianca act like a gen 2 character at low rank, he would not show mercy to alpha
but anyway
homeless invest
Below SSS
4 piece of her signature memory 4 piece bathlon, memory resonance is yellow orb for upper signature for lower(less than sss)
alpha has to be ice/ignition
to survive as the main dps of ice she has to be insanely broken
to survive as the main executioner in ignition she has to be insanely broken
if she is not broken she wont be meta
At SSS
and solon wouldnt want that would he?
Current score I have in hero with her as main dps
why are you guys always limit the guessing game to the already released affixes? :clueless:
SS3 invest atm
Ngl, I would do ANYTHING to give Wanshi as less field time as I can
This guys smart
New affix
lol

Burn is missing a unit tbf
So does ion
Nobody cares
Maybe new affix is burn related somehow
fire breaker kamui will come with pyroath leap
ice attacker alpha will come with wanshi leap
I see.
How many service ticket things do I need to SSS her? 
Not mid, you're just a hater
Not like a plasma tank would do anything for that team it's beyond saving
With full ppc + service + character
Not until Lucia and Lilith are both gone will it ever be good
What if plasma tank as strong as honse 







