📨・general-help

[calm radish]

dont think negative statuses are like affixes in pgr

[proven hamlet]

They are on the way to it

[dawn topaz]

It’s like 30% similar

More different then they r same

[proven hamlet]

Its just an excuse to have a different team

[calm radish]

negative chars dont really have alternative skill rotation

[dawn topaz]

Then the team is still ahh

[proven hamlet]

Spectro frazzle ToA buffs? Too bad you cant use Jinhsi without malding for your dear life

[calm radish]

its more restricted to just damage type and specific mechanic

[calm radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867784007802421278/1412580522944893050/Jinhsi_RoverThankyoufor.gif

my wife fell off

its so crazy

[dawn topaz]

I’d rather use her than zani

[calm radish]

idk, I like affixes more than negative statuses in wuwa

[proven hamlet]

Then tune break made it worse

[calm radish]

but the combat in wuwa is just more fun, you use dodges for more than anim cancel before you get into iframe or another ult anim

[dawn topaz]

Both affix and neg status suck

[proven hamlet]

I had to struggle for 3 stars with friggin Cartethyia in middle tower

[dawn topaz]

Especially df

[proven hamlet]

[dawn topaz]

Cart with no coconut is like Selena with no hanying

[proven hamlet]

Tbh Wuwa feels closer to HSR than PGR

[dawn topaz]

What

Hsr is turn based

[calm radish]

do you have something better (hopefully not genshin or endfield thats just stupidly restrictive)

[dawn topaz]

“

?

[proven hamlet]

I mean how they've been handling meta and teams

[dawn topaz]

Like a diff gacha game?

[dawn topaz]

Isn’t hsr meta worse than wuwa

[tranquil nova]

It is

[proven hamlet]

Yes, but Wuwa is heading there

[calm radish]

much slower, hsr powercreep is like down the rollercoaster

[proven hamlet]

Thats because Wuwa is new

[calm radish]

bruh

[proven hamlet]

HSR powercreep was low to inexistent in its first year too

[calm radish]

how newer

[proven hamlet]

[calm radish]

are we coping right

[proven hamlet]

I'm not

[dawn topaz]

Lowkey hoping my aemeath and galbrena can just continue to cook endgame content

[tranquil nova]

HSR devs also love to hard-counter specific comps or characters.

[calm radish]

ok, maybe we should tune down excessive gacha pvp in this channel

[proven hamlet]

Fair enough

[tranquil nova]

[lime oriole]

isnt sunday already needing a buff

[dawn topaz]

Idk who that is

[lime oriole]

chicken boy

who was supposedly super op on release

[zealous marsh]

can i do anything with these or

[meager bronze]

Overflow 67 jetavie

[tranquil nova]

ye

Buy some other characters' shards

[zealous marsh]

ok so.... what can i do

[dawn topaz]

The nuker?

[lime oriole]

67

[lime oriole]

buy other a rank shards

[tall sentinel]

get 6* mem shards

[rustic sorrel]

I have Lucia Crimson Weave and 21 Feral, if I add Liv Lux, would this make a good team worth investing in?

I don't care about meta in and of itself. I just wanna be good enough to farm daily/weekly BC

[meager bronze]

Somewhat decent for newbie, u could probably switch nanami storm (A rank) for Liv

[rustic sorrel]

I have her so doable already. Just figured a healer would be a good idea

[flat crag]

😭 i accidently made 2 of teddys cubs instead of ranking it up to ss is there a way to undo

[zealous marsh]

how

[wispy raft]

yo guys, im legit stuck, im doing this in the nirvatia story and i have no clue what button to use for it, i basically mashed my entire keybord. any clues?

[zealous marsh]

i think it's ctrl + q

[wispy raft]

nope

[strong mountain]

Does anyone have the resource sheet needed to max out a unit?

[rustic sorrel]

Check settings for special interaction 1 key bind

[flat crag]

NVM U CAN USE THEM TO UPGRADE 😭 omg

[lime oriole]

ok whel

[worldly zealot]

Feral heals

[wispy raft]

yea heres the thing, im stuck in this, i cant check anything

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jjk-season-3-stress-exhausted-gif-15677899247582517579

[velvet elm]

restart the game then change controls

[wispy raft]

man

[rustic sorrel]

oh, I thought she only healed herself

[worldly zealot]

https://pgr-discord-bot.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/Infographics/Picsart_23-12-07_15-11-35-788-2.png

[strong mountain]

Tysm

[wispy raft]

ait i figured it out by switching camera mode and using left click

[rustic sorrel]

default is LEFT Ctrl+Q

[wispy raft]

yea it didnt work anyway

[rustic sorrel]

yeah the controls are busted. I nearly quit due to how bad they are

[wispy raft]

anything but making a good pc port

[worldly zealot]

Indie company plz undestand

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[rustic sorrel]

As an indie dev I can confirm, there is no reason for the controls to be so bad

I especially love how analogue sticks at like strict digital controls. Classy move there

[north peak]

controls are not even that bad

[rustic sorrel]

they really are, please don't defend them

[wispy raft]

they are legit awful yea

[north peak]

yes there is lots of room for improvement but theyre good

[wispy raft]

barely functioning

[north peak]

well let me clarify

theyre good when you rebind

[calm radish]

funded by ten cents

[wispy raft]

you really have to go out your way to customize a lot for them to work properly

[rustic sorrel]

you can make them usable, but thhey are not GOOD controls by any means, and require a lot of tinkering just to get them functioning on controller/KBM

[north peak]

a lot of tinkering like rebinding is not a lot of tinkering

[calm radish]

for average user it is

[north peak]

the average user is playing the wrong kind of game

nanamibrainrot

[calm radish]

game gonna turn niche and then dies

[wispy raft]

it is for this game, a lot of comands conflict with each other when trying to mix them bcs the game cant differentiate contexts, like battle or dialogue, so u always need a seperate button or input for everything instead of applying something more global that works well in different scenarios

[rustic sorrel]

the rebinding process isn't simple and even then, plenty of problems. Like why do I need 2 separate 'confirm/advance' buttons? Why does the game throw you into a tutorial where you can't access rebinding? Why don't analogue sticks act as analogue? etc.

[calm radish]

[north peak]

thank god

thats what we're all hoping for isnt it

[tropic kelp]

EOS soon

[meager bronze]

I am pretty sure amplifier can heal too, upto you tho

[north peak]

i do not care about the game having jank like this

thats just kuro

[wispy raft]

also the game literally starts with the binding being your mouse needed to click stuff on the screen, and if u turn hud off for clearer visuals it cant read it and makes stuff u cant even see glow from the grave, its nothing gamebreaking but its definetely overlooked in many places to a degree that i find laughable

[north peak]

you rarely ever need analogue sticks for analogue movement

i dont think you will ever actually

a direction is all you need

[calm radish]

no

[north peak]

yup the game has a lot of things overlooked and tons of problems for new players

thats not a point of contention

everyone knows

[calm radish]

yeah, its weird that keyboard is not the default skill input method

[wispy raft]

bro its bad game design, like insanely bad, i would understand if it was soemthing that fixed along the way, but they dont even try to bother. its just a hot mess you are expected to deal with bcs they are too lazy

im not defending that lmao

[calm radish]

pgr for people who can be bothered to look into whole keybinding menu and change everything 🤓

[north peak]

It is bad game design

[wispy raft]

the port literally feels like copy and paste from mobile without any other thought proccess behind it, not to talk about how unless u are playing in 4k the AA is god awful btw

[north peak]

You will never ever hear me saying kuro has good game design

Ever

[north peak]

This is true

[calm radish]

wuwa would never

oof

another one bites to dust

[wispy raft]

oh boy

another hack wave

[dusky fiber]

<@&595893856554319873>

Free money

[calm radish]

omaewa mou shindeiru

[rustic sorrel]

I checked wiki and doesn't seem like Nanami Storm can heal. 21 Feral is also ambiguous, can anyone confirm if she heals only herself or off field team mates too?

[wispy raft]

yea wuwa just slapped everything to unreal engine and inflated the game size to like 130gb or something

https://tenor.com/view/diemarchive-diem-roy-the-demon-disappointed-caked-up-gif-15012903344280294981

[worldly zealot]

Amps heal everyone on field, they're better supports

[tropic kelp]

think about class #1454224361602158733 message

[sharp spindle]

nirvatia dirge team?

[worldly zealot]

Storm doesn't, she's a tank

[wispy raft]

and gacha companies wish they could optimize games, not even hoyo with unity is good at doing that

i think the only exception im playing rn is persona 5 x actually using my hardware to the fullest

[north peak]

You may want to get used to reading kits

[wispy raft]

feral heals everyone btw

[worldly zealot]

(Or not honestly)

[wispy raft]

who needs reading

[tall sentinel]

Hanbrick's wack TL

[worldly zealot]

Reading kit except it has 30 different technical jargon

Needs actual translation to understand

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/vivlos-uma-musume-umamusume-reading-viburosu-gif-5214888679503855500

[tall sentinel]

thank god nova exists

[north peak]

You can look at dumbed down versions of kits but at some point you really do have to learn kuro jargon

[rustic sorrel]

I can read fine, like I said, wiki is ambiguous as to whether she heals only herself or team. Jeez

[north peak]

What wiki are you looking at

There isn't really any good source of pgr info except in these two help channels

[tall sentinel]

don't tell me it's GR

[rustic sorrel]

grayravens.com

[tranquil nova]

Gacha games and convoluted kit description, name a better duo.

[north peak]

[calm radish]

you having lil storage issue

[worldly zealot]

That's kuro kits for u

[wispy raft]

i just dont bother playing it anymore

[tall sentinel]

[north peak]

kekw~6

[wispy raft]

the game was cool for a while then it started performing like ahhh

[tall sentinel]

back to balding low viral

[worldly zealot]

Speaking of kits though, are we continuing that rank ups thing or no more?

[wispy raft]

also AA was an issue there too anyway

[tall sentinel]

Ye

[calm radish]

potato device issue

[tall sentinel]

I'll catch up later tbh

after my settlement

[rustic sorrel]

Thank you for direct answer 👍🏽

[worldly zealot]

When u can I can get to it with u too probably

[tall sentinel]

sure

[rustic sorrel]

so is there a better wiki than grayravens.com then?

[calm radish]

no

[north peak]

There is no wiki

[calm radish]

are we going back to spreadsheet times

[wispy raft]

i dont get how its convoluted tho

[viscid pilot]

i want to start the game but it doesnt make alot of sense so far? is there any out of game things i need to read , play, or watch? also does the game get voiced dialogue

[tall sentinel]

trash week

at least it's machi

[rustic sorrel]

Fair. There is so much text I searched for the word "heal" which skipped past that part

[north peak]

Amplifiers heal

[calm radish]

bit outdated but gets you over game's basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHaKrXj643A&list=PLT669jfZO0z9OFd4fnfJxGc3Z71e-1FCg

[worldly zealot]

always has been

[calm radish]

I'm getting headaches from those colors and poor readability

[tranquil nova]

Idk, you tell me.

[tall sentinel]

you can thank baam in the graveyard

[north peak]

I still have yet to really use a spreadsheet at all for pgr

[calm radish]

purple on gray is similar contrast

[tranquil nova]

[wispy raft]

just low cortisol maxx by leveling enough to clear content and get the rewards but play like dog enough to never rank high

[worldly zealot]

wat

[calm radish]

red orb potato

[wispy raft]

buzzword buzzword

[worldly zealot]

KEKL

[calm radish]

why purple looks so weird on that gray color

[tall sentinel]

Abyss mark moment

[wispy raft]

color theory

[rustic sorrel]

So would Lucia Crimson Weave, 21 Feral and Nanami Startrail make a decent team then?

[worldly zealot]

ur hating, the purple looks fine

[tall sentinel]

[worldly zealot]

look at mod color on discord gray bg

clueless

[calm radish]

yeah I was right, in black and white you can see the lack of contrast, it can cause eye fatigue

[tranquil nova]

1. They recently redesigned the story and boot you straight to chapter 9 (I think). Chapters 1-8 are available in the Old Version or smth like this. They are meh, but important for world-building.
2. Later down the line there are more voiced lines.

[wispy raft]

someone wasnt around for liv limpidity im guessing?

[rustic sorrel]

started 6 days ago so I guess not

[worldly zealot]

it's perfectly distinguishable

[iron mason]

yep that glowing like genshin with bloom on

[calm radish]

this is typical graphical design issue, poor readability

[worldly zealot]

true...

[tranquil nova]

Kinda. You just solo everything with Nanaknight.

[tall sentinel]

[wispy raft]

oof, i mean as far as team goes it works, also unless the usual month long shift of "this character is stupid op" to "this character is a fraud" happened for startrail, she is still very much strong af

[calm radish]

you can still read it, but lowered contrast makes your eyes focus more, which leads to extra fatigue
kinda like if text is bit blurry
lowered contrast between letters and background is not ideal condition

[rigid fiber]

u have multiple accs??

[tall sentinel]

4 ye

[rigid fiber]

[tall sentinel]

these ones are just for the fun F2P alts

[wispy raft]

bro...

[lime oriole]

fun

[tall sentinel]

takes me like ~1h per acc on weekend to do weeklies

[rustic sorrel]

Ok thanks. I got Crimson Weave and Feral for free. Thinking to use my S-Rank selector on Startrail cuz I love Monster Hunter Charge Blade 😄

[tall sentinel]

or less when i think of tapping

[calm radish]

4x times more dalao 🛐

[rigid fiber]

lul

[wispy raft]

LMAO

[tall sentinel]

lol

[north peak]

wtf another

[lime oriole]

lul

[tall sentinel]

rip

[lime oriole]

free moni

[rigid fiber]

bro doesnt see here helpers n mods

[calm radish]

gacha gamers are getting snipped by these scams more often, I wonder why

[worldly zealot]

normal stuff

[tall sentinel]

survivor bias

[calm radish]

I thought if you cant read then you should be safe from scams, but I was mistaken

[tall sentinel]

not necessarily

you download/click on sus links on the net

[calm radish]

in a what way

[north peak]

can definitely also make you more susceptible

[tall sentinel]

you could install dormant virus

your acc/credentials get packed along others as fresh vulnerable target

[slender flower]

Okwhel

[tall sentinel]

whoever buys said combo list gets access to those stuffs and could try to run script to auto hijack accs

[tall sentinel]

if pieroo is F2P, then I'm indebted

[slender flower]

I might finally start to whel on WW too

[tall sentinel]

gud ig

[iron mason]

[slender flower]

But pgr is a priority for my free to play rc grind

[iron mason]

good i guess i also start grind rc

[rigid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[slender flower]

I look at general but saw 2 dumbos immediately weird that i actually enjoy my time in this channel more recently

[meager bronze]

I wonder who the dumbos are

[slender flower]

You're one of them

[meager bronze]

Shocker

[lime oriole]

@pearl laurel me retain

1st place

[shy talon]

Does meta change so fast?

[south dragon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1168402145012359178/1108281401381507144.gif

[wispy raft]

i cant tell tbh, sometimes i read comments from this server or the community and they are dogging one of the most recent characters for no reason, i personally just gave up before even trying. i pull, build enough for the character to clear stuff and do the endgame to get the rewards without focusing on high scores

[shy talon]

How do u decide who to pull then

[wispy raft]

they look cool

[lime oriole]

no its just that sone recent charas had a streak of being extremely underwhelming

[shy talon]

Fair

[hollow ermine]

Anyone knows the Chapter where Luna goes from "Laurel" to "Oblivion"?
Like Alpha does?
(From Crimson Abyss to Crimson Weave)

[south dragon]

fortunately it seems to be over

[shy talon]

Is that why i shouldnt pull there? Cuz i did some trials and lunas animations are cool af

[hollow ermine]

U can get luna for 90 cents...

[wispy raft]

those are all pretty good charas anyway

ishmael is very strong afaik

[shy talon]

Im f2p

[wispy raft]

i have them all already

[hollow ermine]

90 cents is less than a chocolate bar

[lime oriole]

our lovely streak of mid charas

[south dragon]

No, arrival banner is a scam

[worldly zealot]

all white hair

[shy talon]

I dont care i will not use a single cent on a game besides buying it and dlcs, if i didnt do it on other gachas i wont make this exception here

[wispy raft]

see this is the take i dont understand @shy talon, bcs bianca at least for me was and still is super good. same goes for liv

and yet idk

i guess i just dont get it

https://tenor.com/view/diemarchive-diem-roy-the-demon-disappointed-caked-up-gif-15012903344280294981

[worldly zealot]

i can see a pattern

[south dragon]

Same

[hollow ermine]

U sound like someone who likes the Nintendo Switch 2 Digital Cardridges...

[south dragon]

4 out 5 mid characters are attackers

and have white hair

[lime oriole]

limp was such an underwhelming anniv chara

[south dragon]

You what that means?

[shy talon]

Bro is it rly that hard to understand that im staying f2p

[south dragon]

Alpha gonna be dookie

[lime oriole]

you could put her up to teddy and you couldnt tell whos anniv

[shy talon]

U saying random stuff wont change it

[hollow ermine]

U mean the incoming one?

[shy talon]

Esp considering i just started that game yesterday

[south dragon]

Yes

She might turn out mid

[lime oriole]

shes either gonna be midianca v2 or be the 2nd pyro

[shy talon]

Why? What even is the difference to a normal banner

[wispy raft]

dont worry, the game throws free stuff at you like its candy, i basically have all recent characters without spending anything but that 1 buck on luna, and i already had her before anyway

[lime oriole]

f2p income small not worth backpulling+ gl if you offrate

[south dragon]

debut is 100% for a character, arrival is 70%

[hollow ermine]

Every Banner that has another Name doesnt share Pity.
U pull on Arrivial Banner then u wont have 50/60 Pity on the Limited Time banner coming up (Kamui)

[lime oriole]

better to just wait and pray solon drops a free selector out of his pants than backpulling

[shy talon]

I see

Btw do we have dripmarketings of the next few chars?

[hollow ermine]

Same with Crucible, Fate Arrivial and so on

[hollow jacinth]

#🎲・glb-lore

[shy talon]

I wanna see what we are dealing with

[lime oriole]

󠄀

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/kamui-pgr-kamui-pgr-pgr-kamui-punishing-gray-raven-gif-769335237172895359

[hollow ermine]

Yeah search for "PGR Voyage and Return"

[shy talon]

Oooo hes fine af

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-pgr-new-frame-gif-14722487722676969660

also her after

[lime oriole]

kamui wife and bait alpaca

[lime oriole]

ch30

[wispy raft]

cant wait to pull both

[hollow ermine]

Thank you 😄 love uuuu uwu

God shall send u gacha luck

[shy talon]

Who is this goat

[south dragon]

Alpha

[shy talon]

I want both ngl

[lime oriole]

what goat

[wispy raft]

another frame for alpha

[hollow ermine]

That is Alpha our Wife and Savior

[lime oriole]

i see no goat in the picture

[shy talon]

Ngl ill pull for both

[shy talon]

I see one

[wispy raft]

kuro the moment they realize the old alpha frame gets powercrept, not even 1 patch without announcing a new frame

truly peak

[south dragon]

@pastel crater

Home sweet home

[hollow ermine]

Well thanks to the current Version u could save enough for both.

[lime oriole]

crim washed been dead for 1.5 yr prior

[shy talon]

Who even is alpha lorewise

[lime oriole]

read story

[shut basin]

We're globlul

[wispy raft]

hey man, she could still clear my content well enough when i started during the dmc collab

[shy talon]

Ill do that later

[hollow ermine]

Lucia.

[shy talon]

Im at the part after the iron maiden is killed

[wispy raft]

not everything has to be minmaxxed into the higher ranks to be decent

[hollow ermine]

Lucia is Lucia but Lucia isnt Lucia

[shy talon]

Oh god

This is gonna be fun

[hollow jacinth]

No, a meta character tends to live for about a year and can extend their life with a leap for 6 months or much more

The problem right now is that we still have many characters that came out during the Global - CN synchronization: Wanshi, Hanying, Lucia, Nanami, Ishmael, Lilith, Selena, Vera, DMC, Vero, Bianca

So their lifespan is shorter

[lime oriole]

lucia but shes not plooming

[rigid fiber]

good luck in stronghold

[shut basin]

Both fraud anyway

The only good thing about Lucia is ploom

[hollow ermine]

And she isnt pyroathing

[shut basin]

and Pyroach sucks ass

[wispy raft]

i dont sweat it, i get enough pulls to get who i want and do ppc to SS and just enjoy the game

its geninely not that serious

[meager bronze]

Tsundare waifu

[shy talon]

Also how tf is she only 165

She looks wayyy taller

[lime oriole]

meth

[wispy raft]

48kg as a construct, yorha could never

[hollow ermine]

Nah i know woman who are 165 and look like 175

[rigid fiber]

enjoy and choose the chara u want,but the fact that cw is outdated for a long time still a fact

[wispy raft]

i have liv too dont worry, and startrail

[shut basin]

Truly the potential woman

[wispy raft]

as i said, i do pull pretty much each patch

i just dont overspend into a character bcs its not needed to clear most things, its needed to flex high scores

and i dont care about that

[hollow ermine]

Didnt u pull for every Collab?

[meager bronze]

Plot armour

[wispy raft]

i started with dmc and didnt miss anyone except veronica until then iirc

[hollow ermine]

Ohhh.
So u only have Vergil on SS?

[wispy raft]

yea

[hollow ermine]

So u are a fraud

[wispy raft]

and i have also selena at SS, i just need funny chinese music woman for ultima slash to actually be usable

[hollow ermine]

Which?

[wispy raft]

i like to own more characters bcs they are cool

[lime oriole]

hanging

[hollow ermine]

There are 2 Selenas

[wispy raft]

pianissimo ofc...

[meager bronze]

There’s 3 selenas

[worldly zealot]

could be hundreds

[wispy raft]

i still need to do that old event for capriccio

[tall sentinel]

take your meds

[rustic sorrel]

and like 78000 Lucias. Just pulled one I didn't know about

[hollow ermine]

Nah only like 8 or 9?

[lime oriole]

the humble 5 livs

[hollow ermine]

Maybe 10

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jjk-season-3-stress-exhausted-gif-15677899247582517579

god please save me

[lime oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nirvatia-headpat-pat-gif-375065413674568097

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/peta-farbar-petr-farbar-peter-farbar-gif-15417317830124358582

[rigid fiber]

didnt know that luna so motivated

[meager bronze]

Funny how they used the word approach a lot of times in story but watanabe, yata and luna said ‘a storm is coming, XD

[shy talon]

Im genuinely so mad i cant get him or dante

Even if theyre mid i love dmc

[wispy raft]

me too, i started this game thanks to that collab

but they should rerun them once like they did with older collabs

i know the nier one got a rerun once

[shy talon]

NIER??

[wispy raft]

oh yea

the game has a nier collab

[shy talon]

What are these peak collabs

[rigid fiber]

mgr collab when

[wispy raft]

i would pull raiden so hard

[shy talon]

Fr

[wispy raft]

me opening pgr to twink edgelord and brasilian motivated guy

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

god bless you kuro, thank you for dark lady with scythe character

[ember kettle]

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-stare-gif-4654314354487006888

not a breath from your foul mouth

[ember kettle]

I'm gonna touch you

[wispy raft]

i will find where you live

its over for you

[ember kettle]

[wintry tide]

hi! is it worth it to spend black card on target weapon research?

[ember kettle]

yes

[pearl laurel]

from the back

[wintry tide]

ooo tytyty

[pearl laurel]

watapak, should have redo me fire to keep #6 place, thought these whels will outscore me by millions kek

[lime oriole]

we got same rewards either way

[polar stirrup]

Hnnn

[ember kettle]

Zamn

[wintry tide]

another question, is it worth it to spend black cards to get dupes of characters?

[polar stirrup]

U whel?

[wintry tide]

light spender

[polar stirrup]

Yeah get ss3 for some who are needed

And its good

Ss for most is good enough

[pearl laurel]

should be soon already, right?

[wintry tide]

and i assume you kinda suppose to get the dupes from gacha right? instead of from stores etc especially for past characters?

[wispy raft]

u can get them from endgame as well altho its a bit slow as a process

i get all my ss from endgame

[polar stirrup]

Yeah PPC

And stuff

[wispy raft]

yuh

[pearl laurel]

backpulling old chars is giga kraken territory

[polar stirrup]

Every new gen char is strong

[pearl laurel]

on sss*

[lime oriole]

me lovely team

[polar stirrup]

This will be fun

[iron hare]

Nirvatia mogs

[lime oriole]

find something wrong

[iron hare]

cubs

[lime oriole]

no

[iron hare]

captain

[polar stirrup]

Corvus. .....

[lime oriole]

if you asked me to show my nihil youd have everyone running lingya

3 lingya holders

[brave ember]

we flexing?!

[lime oriole]

no

[iron hare]

nirvatia build

[lime oriole]

close

[iron hare]

harmonyn't

[lime oriole]

cold

[iron hare]

😎

[lime oriole]

continue

[iron hare]

uh

[polar stirrup]

I forget styff

[lime oriole]

67

[brave ember]

why do you only have 4 memories equipped on Dirge ?

[lime oriole]

cause build not out

[brave ember]

just get something random to fill

[pearl laurel]

wutcha you mean? it's out, 8 cottie meta

[polar stirrup]

Yeah

Partially

Why i sent

[lime oriole]

go on find the anomaly in my team

[unborn cypress]

resonance for nirvatia or still not there yet?

[lime oriole]

not out

[bleak thistle]

what is it most likely to be

[pearl laurel]

bro got a reso on noname cow without having reso on weapon

[ember kettle]

my nirvatrash still naked

[lime oriole]

wut

[pearl laurel]

your weapon got no reso but you hab glorious on her

haxor, raported!

[lime oriole]

through my powers of divination i cast 4 sig 4 cottie

https://tenor.com/view/yaoguang-honkai-star-rail-67-gif-7616604727916420684

[wintry tide]

is it worth it to backpulling for luna oblivion to get her to SS, i only got her base for now and want to complete my nihil team...

[north peak]

https://tenor.com/view/aha-nu-uh-aha-hsr-phainon-mydei-vr-gif-gif-10602128207628918775

[ember kettle]

wow hax

[lime oriole]

[stuck heart]

hey just wondering,the different variants of lucia...are they the (same) person ,or are they each one of them a entire character by themselves xD

[lime oriole]

2 different people both having multiple versions

[north peak]

you chose the worst character to ask that about lol

[lime oriole]

[ember kettle]

[stuck heart]

srry,that was just confusing me tbh xD

[north peak]

lotus is dawn but lotus and dawn are not plume but plume is pyroath and pyroath is not lotus or dawn

[tranquil nova]

No.
Did you get her with 5 RC pack?
Get her to SS0 with skulls and slowly upgrade with vouchers (low priority tho)

[brave ember]

Man... i hope going into the future, we get value from event pulling like we got now ... prob not

[lime oriole]

whelplay help

[tranquil nova]

You mean like Lotus - Plume - Pyroath?

[stuck heart]

yeah kinda ,i have see a lot of character with the same name but several versions

[dire grove]

Hi guys, I still have my up to Ishmael selector, who should I choose? Ishmael, lucea or other?

[tranquil nova]

They are the same person in a different frame "body"

[north peak]

lucia being the exception

[tranquil nova]

Nanami or Ish. Might wait a bit until people figure out what is the fate of SS0 Ish.

[stuck heart]

might be a dumb question but why lucia specifically xD

[calm radish]

should have called them ||fraudcia and truecia||

[north peak]

story spoiler

[stuck heart]

ha ok

[wintry tide]

oookok tyty

[pearl laurel]

cuz in the story || || and after that || || and then they end up with || ||
that's it in short

[calm radish]

bro, are you telling them to go read

[pearl laurel]

I would never

[stuck heart]

just so you know i only do story for the black cards

[lime oriole]

🚮

[fringe elbow]

I might have forgotten how bad F2p situation is now that sig is mandatory for units

How bad is it without sig

[calm radish]

if you play everything then you should be able to get some sigs

[brave ember]

up to a certain point, char kits was locked behind sig

forgot when this stopped

[lime oriole]

idk ion have bc problems

[fringe elbow]

Same here

[brave ember]

maybe year 2?

[fringe elbow]

I'm at a BC positive situation now

[fringe elbow]

Character kits are locked to sig now yeah

[fringe elbow]

Around mid gen 2

[calm radish]

what kits are locked behind sig?

I think saying kit is really a big exaggeration

[fringe elbow]

Oh yea only Luna and Ishmael's are like that

My bad

[calm radish]

more like orb/dmg locked

[fringe elbow]

Sigs nowadays lock sometimes so needed that without it rot becomes near impossible

[ember kettle]

[polar stirrup]

Guys why do my electric team do no damage

[calm radish]

your rotation is restricted unless you spent some time weaving in basic attacks to generate needed orbs

[calm radish]

I smell zzz player

[polar stirrup]

Overseer feel so tankt

Sorry for you no

Electric shorter than lightning

[ember kettle]

zap

[lime oriole]

areo

[polar stirrup]

Oh yeah thsnks

[bleak thistle]

electro wizard

[polar stirrup]

Anyways i think my build wrong

[lime oriole]

send build

[tranquil nova]

I called the team "Bzzzzt", Lightning exceeds character limit.

[ember kettle]

what team and invest

[calm radish]

whats your light team

[bleak thistle]

show team and show builds

[tranquil nova]

[ember kettle]

I just put zap

zap zap ppc

[worldly zealot]

yea

[bleak thistle]

i put light

[ember kettle]

[worldly zealot]

same hp as overdeer

[bleak thistle]

what

[calm radish]

⚡

[polar stirrup]

Yeah i know i am on cope

[ember kettle]

Heis cot liv
dv eins nana
guin sam ish

[bleak thistle]

that is the meta lightning team

[polar stirrup]

Is it?

[lime oriole]

it is

[wicked path]

i still have the free s character thing should i pick nanami or ishmael

[lime oriole]

excluding the homeless invest

[ember kettle]

might as well just Liv all the way

[polar stirrup]

Huh what

[ember kettle]

yes

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/asaba-harumasa-harumasa-asaba-asaba-harumasa-zenless-zone-zero-gif-13592431679259519016

[tranquil nova]

Do you have both?

[ember kettle]

I say hold on it till Kamui beta

[wicked path]

i have neither im barely new

[lime oriole]

pick nana

[tranquil nova]

Nanami then

[bleak thistle]

the two strongest entities in the lore supporting some random medic

[wicked path]

ok ty guys

[ember kettle]

Liv op

[lime oriole]

when was ish a medic

[polar stirrup]

My build wrong

[bleak thistle]

how powerful is limpidity in lore @lime oriole

[calm radish]

have you done any hypertuning? are you done with borderpact?

[ember kettle]

[lime oriole]

im 1 yr behind main story

[ember kettle]

Yes

[bleak thistle]

im 6 years behind main story

[polar stirrup]

Yeah

Duh

[lime oriole]

then go read it yourself

https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-kakegurui-sumeragi-gif-20193484

[bleak thistle]

no

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[ember kettle]

can change build? if not heis eins nana, dv guin ish

[bleak thistle]

me when no kamui leaks yet

[polar stirrup]

Ok

[lime oriole]

these filthy leak eaters

[ember kettle]

y'all eat leaks?

I eat sum else

[polar stirrup]

What are leaks

[bleak thistle]

sneak peeks

[ember kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[calm radish]

also as side note, you might want activate/deactivate effects for each team preset

[polar stirrup]

On what

[wicked path]

when do get to see kamui beta gameplay

[ember kettle]

he's not triggering that anyway

[pearl laurel]

where is that data from?
cuz I did a test, slowly took down exactly 1 hp bar from spooder hell, and added up the dmg popup numbers
based on that she got around 36,933,840 hp on hell, which would explain why I have no issue killing lloyd with my 10s rota, while can't kill spooder with the same rota

[polar stirrup]

Doesnt affevt anything

[bleak thistle]

if alpha activates affix auto ill cry

[polar stirrup]

Thanks

[calm radish]

yeah, but just in case they have it on in some other teams

[ember kettle]

ts rosetta in dork

[polar stirrup]

Dont worry affix team seperate

[tranquil nova]

In a week or two ig

[polar stirrup]

Just look at my teams name

[ember kettle]

that ish gonna do nothing for nihil later

[polar stirrup]

Yeah i know

Cope so hard from your laziness

That you forget you are lazy

Me af as soon as monday

[worldly zealot]

files

[rustic sorrel]

does huaxu.app still work?

[worldly zealot]

yes

[ember kettle]

yes

[rustic sorrel]

can't find my info on there. Maybe Steam version has issues or something

[proven hamlet]

Did you check the server?

[rustic sorrel]

yup

[pearl laurel]

then how come the dmg popups end up with a different number?

[polar stirrup]

I think i am going broke

[north peak]

What's your id and server

[ember kettle]

you ARE broke

[pearl laurel]

and also the fact that the exact same rota does "less dmg" on spooder

[rustic sorrel]

omg it just loaded

[ember kettle]

pulling coatings but no sig

[polar stirrup]

I wonder why

[ember kettle]

I wonder

[calm radish]

[north peak]

[worldly zealot]

too many questions

[polar stirrup]

Uuuuhhhh i love my lucia

[worldly zealot]

idk ask kuro

[polar stirrup]

Hmmm

[ember kettle]

u sure love your Bica too

[north peak]

Tsubricki in big 2026

[calm radish]

your account screams of mismanagement

[dawn topaz]

What’s the point

[polar stirrup]

No i lpved the BG

[calm radish]

sip it

all serum at once

[dawn topaz]

I’ll gladly take those

[ember kettle]

[dawn topaz]

I’m at 13k sim coins

Broke asl

[polar stirrup]

Background was good couldnt pass

[ember kettle]

[polar stirrup]

I swear i am responsible now

[polar stirrup]

. . . .

[ember kettle]

where ish gacha skin

[north peak]

Asking the real questions

[polar stirrup]

I didnt have funds

[dawn topaz]

Levisha will fund

[ember kettle]

this fraud

[polar stirrup]

Sorry i tried

I was busy that month

And couldnt farm

...

I will get it on rerun

[dawn topaz]

They have reruns?

[polar stirrup]

Yeah skins rerun

[wispy raft]

wife trio looks so gorgeous

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[polar stirrup]

..........

[dawn topaz]

Where’s the skins at

[north peak]

lets all dress in black and not tell luna

yet again, luna being the fraud

[fringe elbow]

Luna has a black dress

But it's paid

Unlike the other 2

[north peak]

L

[wispy raft]

pricey, u pay them for me and i get them :D

[brave ember]

Quick glance, how much ht can I do with this

[fringe elbow]

Not much actually

[dawn topaz]

[wispy raft]

:D

[ember kettle]

forget skins, make them naked

and throw nirvatrash in the ocean

[dawn topaz]

Nah

There’s a study that shows it’s better for them to have clothes

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/diem-archive-diem-angry-smoke-throw-gif-14966112203236833775

[dawn topaz]

Nvidia into trash I can agree with

[ember kettle]

[dawn topaz]

[ember kettle]

your teacher must've thought you wrong little one

[dawn topaz]

I can explain the study but I feel like I’ll get chat warning

[wispy raft]

a mind that cannot comprehend the erotism behind clothing shall not speak as an equal

[dawn topaz]

Who’s side u on

[ember kettle]

I have no clue

[dawn topaz]

Oop mods here

[fringe elbow]

Talking about naked........but there's no snake

[fair basin]

[fringe elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-delta-mgs3-big-boss-naked-snake-metal-gear-solid-gif-14185196888717202744

[fringe elbow]

Also
If talking about naked
Tbf, Nirvatia is the last one to throw out

[dawn topaz]

Who’s first

[ember kettle]

Nirvatrash

[wispy raft]

bambinata

[fringe elbow]

Automatically Luna come on

[dawn topaz]

[ember kettle]

[dawn topaz]

[wispy raft]

i am sus for wanting her out?

[fringe elbow]

You.......are you sure about that

[dawn topaz]

Isn’t that the ballerina kid ?

[ember kettle]

not at all

[fringe elbow]

Oh you wanna keep her OUT?
Then fine

We ain't no Island

[slender flower]

ppc/wz:

• void boss
• ice boss
• fire/ion boss

[fringe elbow]

[ember kettle]

Overseer again?

[wispy raft]

you guys wrote the damn context

[ember kettle]

ffs

[dawn topaz]

Overseer

[dawn topaz]

Bro

Where tf is chiko

[fringe elbow]

NOT OVERSEER AGAIN

[wispy raft]

no reading comprehension

[slender flower]

jeez u guys panic as if the boss didn't die in 2 sec

[dawn topaz]

U assume we read?

[ember kettle]

gone

[dawn topaz]

Not mine

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jjk-season-3-stress-exhausted-gif-15677899247582517579

[ember kettle]

I ate it

[fringe elbow]

Yea then it's fine

[slender flower]

3x boss wz

[ember kettle]

what's that I'm blind

translate in sign language pls

[dawn topaz]

No clue

10010001

[ember kettle]

[fringe elbow]

Anyways

[dawn topaz]

Who’s the middle guy

Forgot who he is

[ember kettle]

Emperor

[polar stirrup]

Hehe .. .... ...

[dawn topaz]

Ice boss?

[fringe elbow]

Im keeping Nirvatia, Ishmael, Vera, Lilith, Discord, Bianca, Bridget

[polar stirrup]

Just 25 more

[fringe elbow]

WHEN NO ONE HEARS A WORD

[wispy raft]

im also keeping wanshi

[polar stirrup]

They say

[brave ember]

any OG players here?

[dawn topaz]

There’s a unc in here

2021

I think

[ember kettle]

yeah

[polar stirrup]

If only i had my 2020 account

[ember kettle]

Ezra here

[brave ember]

fellow uncs where you at

[ember kettle]

wow so old

so many old people

[dawn topaz]

The 1-9 guy hella old

[ember kettle]

what was it like during the heian era

[fringe elbow]

The oldest is me actually

[dawn topaz]

Did dinosaurs have feathers

[polar stirrup]

Alpha soloed

[brave ember]

the only thing i remember

was the 5$ 6$ drama

[fringe elbow]

I'm alive since before the beginning of time

[brave ember]

[ember kettle]

I bet they had fins

[dawn topaz]

Damn gramps

[polar stirrup]

Yeah the RC

[fringe elbow]

Ah yes the anti-Heian Era skill I haven't used since Heian Era

[brave ember]

Everyone asking that mod for a 1$

Does huaxu check for account age too?

[proven hamlet]

Yea

It says debut date

[brave ember]

oh no i just looked at mine

[proven hamlet]

2019 acc?

[ember kettle]

dw gramps you're still young at heart

[dawn topaz]

Damn gramps

[ember kettle]

[proven hamlet]

Great gramps

[dawn topaz]

Gramps^2

Great great gramps

[ember kettle]

I start on Liv patch, I'm technically new

[brave ember]

almost been a full 5 years

[dawn topaz]

Which liv

[proven hamlet]

Liv Luminance?

[ember kettle]

I could only imagine the horrors you guys went through

[brave ember]

you know what this game should bring back

[shut basin]

@remote cove is this true?

[brave ember]

the OG riot boss that was in PPC for 1 week.

sure was fun

[ember kettle]

[proven hamlet]

Eclipse

[dawn topaz]

Everyone old

[proven hamlet]

Not me

I'm barely 1 year old

[ember kettle]

same here

[dawn topaz]

Me 3

[shut basin]

Door acc started in 2023 and it's mine now

so technically

[proven hamlet]

Unc

[dawn topaz]

10 days left of Selena/vera sync

[shut basin]

I started in 2023

[dawn topaz]

Unc

[ember kettle]

so old

[dawn topaz]

Broke ahh unc

[wispy raft]

i genuinely need the soundtrack for this menu, its so good

[dawn topaz]

Check Spotify

Might have it there

[karmic void]

Just hopped back into the game after half a year is Pyroath still good?

[wispy raft]

nah kuro harldy uploads pgr tracks on there

[carmine forge]

yeah, she still is

[karmic void]

Sweet good 2 know!

[dawn topaz]

There’s a new album every patch

[wispy raft]

then im guessing im looking in the wrong spot

let me check

[proven hamlet]

She's still meta, but is on the line

[karmic void]

Don't say that... she's one of if not my favorite unit in the game 💔

[ember kettle]

chopping board

[proven hamlet]

The moment we get a fire breaker she's out

Or she gets a leap

[wispy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/kamui-pgr-kamui-pgr-pgr-kamui-punishing-gray-raven-gif-769335237172895359

[ember kettle]

possibly only if wata 3s and pyroath broke

same with dark

[dawn topaz]

I’m replacing wata with kamui

Roach can live

[ember kettle]

yeah fk that old blindass

[shut basin]

Woah

[dawn topaz]

His weapon gonna be used to reso kamui matter of fact

[ember kettle]

Yes

[shut basin]

Laovisha wants to ploom everyone nowadays

[ember kettle]

[dawn topaz]

[karmic void]

What's the website to show your box?

[proven hamlet]

What if we both broke on Wata and Pyro

2nd amp time

[ember kettle]

no rights

[dawn topaz]

Kamui replaced wata, 3s rose replace roach

[ember kettle]

watapak rose

[dawn topaz]

I’m putting this horse everywhere even if she doesn’t do shi

[ember kettle]

[proven hamlet]

[ember kettle]

nah she's everywhere already

[proven hamlet]

Ig I can do 3S Rigor

[shut basin]

Vera still maindps

[dawn topaz]

Who’s after alpha

[proven hamlet]

The Void Master

Vonnegut

[dawn topaz]

Chaos

[tranquil nova]

Huaxu?

[karmic void]

Thats the 1 thx!

[shut basin]

Changyu

[proven hamlet]

Lowkey want Yoruichi construct

[tranquil nova]

Margaret please (inb4, go play WuWa)

[ember kettle]

eos pls

[proven hamlet]

3d printed Margaret

[ember kettle]

[dawn topaz]

No not yet

[tranquil nova]

[dawn topaz]

I didn’t unga bunga with 3s rose long enough yet

[shut basin]

K whel

[karmic void]

What should I pick on this banner based on my current box?

[ember kettle]

Geiravor

[north peak]

interesting units to have

[ember kettle]

returner

[karmic void]

I've been away for half a year

[tranquil nova]

Pick Vera

[north peak]

interesting units to have

[karmic void]

How so?

[dawn topaz]

It’s interesting

Ykyk

[karmic void]

Is that my best choice? Im assuming to complete my fire team

[dawn topaz]

[north peak]

it is indeed interesting

[dawn topaz]

Ye

Vera main dps

For fire

[ember kettle]

[tranquil nova]

You can technically wait for a patch and grab Honse from it.
Will unbrick your Dark.

[dawn topaz]

Can’t he just get house in half anni

[dawn topaz]

Honse

[ember kettle]

house too pricey these days

[dawn topaz]

I live in a cardboard box on the streets

[karmic void]

Idk what's best to do so I'll take what you guys say in mind when I make my choice

[ember kettle]

seems easy enough to rob

[dawn topaz]

Woah

[ember kettle]

best would be waiting a patch like Tohsa said

[dawn topaz]

5 weeks

Damn bro

[karmic void]

5 weeks?

Diabolical

[ember kettle]

new unit new class

5weeks ain't that long

[dawn topaz]

What

[ember kettle]

just touch grass

[dawn topaz]

All my exams start in 5 weeks

5 weeks too short

I need more time

[ember kettle]

real

[karmic void]

Mabey I shoulda waited a month to come back...

[dawn topaz]

There’s free nit rn

Unit

Get it b4 u quit again

[ember kettle]

"quit again"

[tranquil nova]

[proven hamlet]

You probably should just quit for good

[tranquil nova]

Speedrun kiwi

[karmic void]

Also is crucible the way they are doing banners now?

[proven hamlet]

Nop, only this one

[tranquil nova]

nope

[proven hamlet]

Its noob trap

[tranquil nova]

Or whale discount

[dawn topaz]

And whel trap

[slender flower]

but i pulled

[dawn topaz]

Alpha lover spent 500 pulls day 1

Yea this guy right here

[proven hamlet]

I'm sorry for you

[slender flower]

only to leave my Nirvatia at SSS9 for a week

[proven hamlet]

[dawn topaz]

This whel

[brave ember]

Every banner should be a crucible banner I save so much money

[ember kettle]

too fat to be a whel tbh

[dawn topaz]

Just be f2p like me

[ember kettle]

[slender flower]

gfl2 so generous pgr could never

free pulls for gacha skin banners

[dawn topaz]

Woah

[proven hamlet]

<@&595893856554319873> money making methods

[slender flower]

mods