#📨・general-help

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red wing
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you can't have both. unless you are a masochist

raw sierra
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What if I am

formal nexus
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no dont interrupt them

red wing
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then you can EvilLiv

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that simple

raw sierra
formal nexus
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half of you typing

placid mirage
iron mason
south dragon
red wing
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anything else?

south dragon
iron mason
formal nexus
dusky fiber
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Dalao vs Dalao?

iron mason
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Who dalao?

red wing
dusky fiber
iron mason
dusky fiber
raw sierra
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When dalao

dusky fiber
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Ori lao

iron mason
dusky fiber
iron mason
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Never. i tho casul

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Dont care
Stupid
Cant think outside the box
And every high score i had, by pure luck

iron mason
lime oriole
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did they add more quests to bp

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its like day 3 and im already at 26

iron mason
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If yes atleast 3.3 nirv is not long to done

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Thinking s+ but donno

raw sierra
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Cuz less event

north peak
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not going for nirv ranks is insane to me given how strong they are

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the real question is if we'll get more vouchers or not to support these new free units

iron mason
north peak
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however i doubt kuro would be generous enough to do that

lime oriole
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why are there so many gifs of her mid coating

iron mason
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Sad

lime oriole
north peak
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but i heard kuso so generous

iron mason
lime oriole
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3 voucher charas within the span of 4 patches

iron mason
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Its free, we get u as ur generousity, not by how force u buy bps

north peak
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not even bp is enough

iron mason
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I know😭

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Even donno how i had enought 3.3 ish too

lime oriole
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rc to voucher convert when

iron mason
north peak
iron mason
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Wtf that robbery

north peak
fringe elbow
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Yea

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Nirvatia ain't seeing that SSS0 anyday

lime oriole
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time to do roguelikes

north peak
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I really don't understand when people say this game is not generous. like sure it could more generous but that goes for every other gacha out there. I guess it comes down to the questionable choices the developers make sometimes

fringe elbow
fringe elbow
lime oriole
fringe elbow
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Right now

north peak
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you just cant argue with casuals

arctic peak
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i hope its a right channel to post it but i just found a problem and idk what to do with it 😭

i already tried to restart the game but it happened again...

fringe elbow
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I'll try SS0 Nirvatia first

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Then SS3

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Then SSS0

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Oh wait

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Nvm

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My ish is SS3

fringe elbow
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I can't really grasp full SS0 damage for nihil anymore

arctic peak
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thanks!

raw sierra
fringe elbow
arctic peak
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real

fringe elbow
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Wanna test out the full power of Nihil team

iron mason
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then build play ur zaza

fringe elbow
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Not rn

iron mason
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i also not touching her, before i sss her

fringe elbow
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SS3 is good point

iron mason
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ss3 to weird to me comper to sss in general

fringe elbow
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SSS0 is busted for damage if you are F2P

raw sierra
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He leviathan

fringe elbow
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Too bad

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My Ishmael does nearly same

proven hamlet
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F2p cant get her to SSS either

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Vouchers where

fringe elbow
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Just 1 bar less than SSS0 Nirvatia

proven hamlet
fringe elbow
proven hamlet
red wing
# north peak you just cant argue with casuals

sorry for not living in pgr VeraShrug
idk what to tell you, go play hoyo games if you want to live in a nightmare. 160 pulls to guarantee a character, and barely enough time in a patch to get that amount
then you still need the character's weapon which is what was it? 60 or 80 pulls?

proven hamlet
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You are a fossil

north peak
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at sss3 nirv deals the most damage of any unit of mine i think with the exception of bianca

proven hamlet
north peak
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outdoing s+ vera by a lot

red wing
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not even talking about constellations or resonances atp just getting to play the game lul

fringe elbow
north peak
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the free ss0 guy on twitter i meant

fringe elbow
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HOLY

north peak
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not even close

iron mason
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i beliave in magma

north peak
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have u seen the vid i sent of her dmg

red wing
fringe elbow
north peak
fringe elbow
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Drama

red wing
north peak
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idk lol

north peak
fringe elbow
fringe elbow
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Yea I forgot how busted SSS0 also is
SSS3 should be even more busted

red wing
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"kuso so generous"

proven hamlet
north peak
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not all the way

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but true

formal nexus
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tag you're it @north peak

red wing
slender flower
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kuso generous

red wing
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obviously

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you of all people should know that

slender flower
north peak
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i always been global

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cn was side hustle

slender flower
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he could be great

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but he chose to be not great

north peak
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naturally

fringe condor
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Can i fodder alphas sig

formal nexus
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no what if she gets another leap

slender flower
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||tbf better that than becoming another dumbass who quit on wanshi patch and cried how qu veri hard to plei||

red wing
north peak
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yes

fringe condor
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Should i fodder it on the new char or teddy first

formal nexus
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how much RC is "not f2p", cause my recharge is at 1100
and dont ask me how many were wasted on intel but mostly monthly bc passes

north peak
slender flower
red wing
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unless you are talking about forced 2 pay

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and not free 2 play

proven hamlet
north peak
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just say you spent all your rc on skins

proven hamlet
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5 rc is f2p for Luna

north peak
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then f2p

formal nexus
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i own like 3 skins

lime oriole
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whel

formal nexus
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ishmael's skin was too good what was i supposed to do

red wing
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1100 rc 3 skins
sounds about right

formal nexus
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i didnt buy it with rc but i havent bought anything in over a year

slender flower
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sounds f2p enough

fringe elbow
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She's the only Nihil unit without unique class

north peak
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it should have been vonnegut

fringe elbow
proven hamlet
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Imagine converting attackers into tanks

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Builder class

fringe elbow
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I really hope he becomes playable

north peak
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but anyways shes strong so she gets a pass somewhat

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soon

fringe elbow
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Imagine Nigel playable lol

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And his dodge is just Wesker

slender flower
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skem

fringe elbow
tall sentinel
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from the moment you're eligible to claim lotus skin and CW skin, you're deemed as filthy whale in this game

fringe elbow
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Will they powercreep Luna? Still understandable if they do

slender flower
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gin trolling dw

fringe elbow
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But powercreep Ishmael? When she still gets buffs for the observer class

north peak
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nihil has a good future as long as ish gets leap

tall sentinel
fringe elbow
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Luna can get powercrept cuz her class ain't working anymore

north peak
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she just needs a dmg boost and rosetta shred field

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luna is the fraud here

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yeah

fringe elbow
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Luna's class gimmick is now useless

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Lol

north peak
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well not really there will likely be a time when she does go

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maybe in favour of a new frame or someone else who knows

fringe elbow
north peak
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yes

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well doesnt have to be

fringe elbow
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Alpha

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Soon Nihil will be

slender flower
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plz no

fringe elbow
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Alpha
Alpha
Alpha

north peak
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i would actually take alpha nihil attacker

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i need luna gone asap

fringe elbow
north peak
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shes far too rigid

fringe elbow
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I want the new alpha to be powercrept right now

north peak
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locked cottie locked 2rota

fringe elbow
north peak
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shes holding the team back from zaza

fringe elbow
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Always been the case no?

north peak
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void wouldve finally been a change

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every unit can keep up with each other

slender flower
north peak
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how poetic would it be for sister to powercreep sister KohaNodders

fringe condor
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Is nirvaria a dps

north peak
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yes

fringe condor
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So i build bulkagkov?

north peak
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we dont know her build

fringe condor
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What

proven hamlet
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Nothing defined, since there's no content to test

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So far the dalaos have been testing in the gardener dummy

fringe condor
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Ok how about teddy

fringe elbow
sinful rivet
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Depends on team

slender flower
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ew, magmadud drunk again

fringe condor
sinful rivet
fringe condor
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I only got wanshi S with no sig ion gonna lie

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Ok ice

fringe condor
lime oriole
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joanna

proven hamlet
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Not Jeanne

lime oriole
north peak
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these dumb confusing similar names

sinful rivet
formal nexus
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nirv's sig mem is so lackluster

south dragon
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barcelo you dum fcks

proven hamlet
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Kuriko

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Or whatever is the name of the austrian painter in CN

sinful rivet
fringe elbow
fringe elbow
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Gives 3 red orbs on first ult 1 after swap
Also damage buff

fringe condor
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Thanks guys

proven hamlet
slender flower
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SSS thing

proven hamlet
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I see

kind smelt
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For Nirvatia i noticed that she mostly Yellow and Ult dmg related im now thinking She i focus On her ult dmg oriented yel Orb dmg

rigid tulip
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Dv , enis , gunv on dirge

rigid tulip
kind smelt
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Wait DV 2 and Gunv 2 and Enis 4?

rigid tulip
kind smelt
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Im runing 4 Enis and 2 Gun but Gun is only if shes a que bot for the wxtra dmg fo Lun and Ish

kind smelt
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But DV i feel like is more dmg focused

rigid tulip
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I may or may not switch to active the amp passive

slender flower
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8 cottie

rigid tulip
kind smelt
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Yeah Flock passive only happens if all 3 are nihil which always should be to get the 2x

rigid tulip
kind smelt
rigid tulip
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her bird?

kind smelt
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Nah her passive for extra dmg

proven hamlet
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No, its in her kit

rigid tulip
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Ahhhh

proven hamlet
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Flock of nihil ravens

kind smelt
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Flock
If all members are Nihil characters, the Void Collapse effect applied by Dirge is further enhanced by 15%.

rigid tulip
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I still didnt get the pet yet

lime oriole
rigid tulip
lime oriole
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putting the highest dealing chara in the game on qte KareninaGasp

kind smelt
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Yeah Flock is mixed in with Deathbreak
Boom QTE Bot duty

rigid tulip
kind smelt
rigid tulip
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Hmmm

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What res should i run

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Class / 15+ atk

lime oriole
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atk crit + ba

proven hamlet
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BA?

lime oriole
kind smelt
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For me it would be YEL Orb and Sig but thats me for DMG wise

proven hamlet
kind smelt
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Shes kinda like um idk Vera

rigid tulip
rigid tulip
proven hamlet
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She's main DPS yea

kind smelt
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Support Um anything that heals i guess or boost that dmg for qte bot duty

lime oriole
kind smelt
rigid tulip
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If i build her dps , who will be my sup? Luna??

lime oriole
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noone knows

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need actual data

kind smelt
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Yeah if she gonna be Main dps Sig and Yel orb but bot duty Eh class and 15 atk

lime oriole
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and your team invest

kind smelt
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Dps and sup

rigid tulip
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How so?

lime bloom
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why cant i recycle anything

kind smelt
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Dps is Her Memory and 4 or 2 other Memory that help as dps
And qte would Gun 4 or DV 4
Or 8 DV

lime oriole
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8 dv

kind smelt
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Raps i mena 6

lime oriole
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6 dv

rigid tulip
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Ah 😮‍💨

kind smelt
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But i do see where peopl get the Qte bot bc of Deathbreak mixed in with Flock give abt 35% combind then Her class adds 10% atk and 10 Elemental DMG Bouns
When switch out from her

formal nexus
# fringe elbow It's actually not

i am no expert, but
sub SSS its support nirv, double rot luna, double rot ish, single rot nirv
SSS though it might be triple luna, triple nirv (i dont have sss yet + no wz), but ishmael tank cant use guin so like, 4x dv, eins + gloria? 4x guin on nirv? she doesnt need 2pc cottie?

formal nexus
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but my luna and ish are both ss3 so whatever

rigid tulip
formal nexus
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watch this all be worth like 500k points next week and im not going to care

kind smelt
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Bit the 35% nihil dmg increase is only 8 secs which if one know to play wit lag time absoulte mosnter of a qte

kind smelt
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Deathbreak
Allied units healed by Nirvatia gain a boost. If all members are Nihil characters, they gain an additional Flock effect. When casting Raven Ritual, Fatal Kiss, or Hanging Phantom, Nirvatia immediately heals herself for HP equal to 10% of her ATK.

  • Allied units healed by Nirvatia gain a Void Collapse effect, which increases Nihil DMG by 20% for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered

Flock
If all members are Nihil characters, the Void Collapse effect applied by Dirge is further enhanced by 15%.

rigid tulip
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4 DV , 2 gun , 2 enis

kind smelt
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I i as seem more like qte dmg bot if luna and Ishmael are main dps

rigid tulip
rigid tulip
kind smelt
rigid tulip
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My bad

kind smelt
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Nah you good

rigid tulip
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Its 15%

formal nexus
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no argue about itRavenMad

proven hamlet
kind smelt
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Imma try to see if she stays in her 2nd uñt form if o e tags out and in then it wouñd make sense for a qte bot

rigid tulip
kind smelt
rigid tulip
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Or stay 6 DV and 2 enis

formal nexus
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do whatever just probably dont hyper tune

lime oriole
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6 dv useless without sss breaker

rigid tulip
formal nexus
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its not like theres any content to use nirvatia on this week

proven hamlet
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Isn't 6 DV a 333 thing?

rigid tulip
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Ish work as breaker but , i think she is SS

rigid tulip
kind smelt
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So is true if shes in her first phase of her ult she stays in that form tag out and in so dmg as a qte would be big

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Yeah so we need a setup to remove qte cool down that way one can pop it 2 in one go

rigid tulip
pearl laurel
kind smelt
lime oriole
kind smelt
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You get 10% dmg and Elemental dmg

rigid tulip
lime oriole
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the most more pointless endgame

pearl laurel
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just as pointless as wz BiancaInnocent

lime oriole
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the entire game is pointless

formal nexus
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as opposed to the maybe 2-3 people fighting over top 2 spots in hero

kind smelt
proven hamlet
kind smelt
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I feel that way you get more dmg out of it

rigid tulip
kind smelt
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Core maybe 6 if it only up 5% then that means you get 45% exta dmg for 8 secs from her qte

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Class would be nice too but i think it only goes up 5% max for both

lime oriole
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all this discussion to probably be nonsense when wz actually comes

kind smelt
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If you go Core Flock would be 20%
Void Collapse effect, which increases Nihil DMG by 25% for 10
Probably idk

lime oriole
kind smelt
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Im a baby whale still

proven hamlet
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This game is not fun

rigid tulip
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I literary wanna build her and forget she ever exist

proven hamlet
kind smelt
lime oriole
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lets all play honkhonk pimpact 3d

rigid tulip
kind smelt
pearl laurel
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@lime oriole this is totally you, right? EvilLiv

rigid tulip
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3 core , 3 class tho

formal nexus
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how big do you think nirvatia's honkers are

proven hamlet
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Smaller than Ayla's

pearl laurel
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wut a pointless bracket, time to one tap turu RavenSleep

kind smelt
kind smelt
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But class would be good bc if you run memory set that kills off cool down you get 2x dmg sort of

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From qte

rigid tulip
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since switching cd could kill time for me yet i want both buffs for first tag out and later on rotation

rigid tulip
kind smelt
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Yeah bc kills.off CD and pop qte 1 then pop qte 2 whinin the same 2 secs

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Which timer rest

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Duration resets every time it is triggered.

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But dmg not sure if it stacks

kind smelt
rigid tulip
lime oriole
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thats just regular 4p dv

rigid tulip
rigid tulip
kind smelt
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But if the dmg dowsnt stack the core would good too but its probably 5% increase

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In Flock and Deathbreak

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I sent this like 2 days ago
But this and idea of her sig and memory together.

Okay From what i Gathered
Her Memory 4 Piece Boost
Well 10% Nihil DMG (Obviously)
Fatal Kiss Which Is Her First ULT Phase (?) By Extra DMG By 50%
Deaths promise Which is Her Yellow Orb
By 50% and Gains 3 Red Obs After Entering Battle or Taging in ?

Then Her Signature Weapon Boost
Her ATK By 10% (HUGE)
Flock Effect Is (15%) (2X Doubled) Which is part of Her Core Passive
Hanging Phantom (Yellow Orb) Extra DMG by 100% (Eh)

kind smelt
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Now take all this info
If one starts with her until shes in her 1st phase of her ult which Fatal Kiss she get 50% Extra dmg
Tag out
10% ATK and 10% Elemental DMG Bonus
Pop her QTE Deathbreak get 20% then Flock is 30% since its Doubled in total you get 50% dmg for 8 secs

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If im not wrong thats how she works

rigid tulip
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@kind smelt I think i rather go with Sustain dmg boost

rigid tulip
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because im gonna tag off her the moment i see the amp dmg buff

raw sierra
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Her yellow orb is like

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One of Her most damaging move

pearl laurel
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I tried to figure out what these 2 talking about, but gave up a long time ago RavenSleep

raw sierra
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Sadge I just joined

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Missed out

tacit tide
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Whats the ideal build for Nirvatia I have her Luna and Ishmael at S

lime oriole
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as long as trashmael doesnt see daylight im willing to do anything

formal nexus
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i think i understand but im not clarifying anything i am enjoying it

raw sierra
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Paking autocorrect

tacit tide
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Gotcha

raw sierra
pearl laurel
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on a different note, Lux gaming LivWow

lime oriole
pearl laurel
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she managed to take down 1, and I mean, one, a single enemy in 2 whole minutes 21Yay

lime oriole
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ate and left no hp

formal nexus
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100% health infinite

willow umbra
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Cant believe liv can solo nearly to 100m

lime oriole
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@pearl laurel youre gonna piss your pants at the score in gonna get

pearl laurel
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oi, no cheating! BiancaUpset

tacit tide
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Black cards forever well spent(ignore the freebie we got for Luna)

lime oriole
tacit tide
pearl laurel
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that would complete the bricc collection with lingerie "wedding" and tsubricci there

formal nexus
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he's got 2 luna's

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why do people sit on like 1000+ serum

lime oriole
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cause stoopid

tacit tide
pearl laurel
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same reason they sit on these coatings, they like to waste BiancaInnocent

tacit tide
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And

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I need Ishmael wedding coating to come back

bitter summit
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Not only that it's wed skin, it's fraudmael's too

lime oriole
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you satisfied now you tourist?

pearl laurel
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nahh, das is cheating, timestop aboose KareninaSlap

shut basin
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Lao

lime oriole
formal nexus
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idk what is considered wedding

lime oriole
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goat build

shut basin
lime oriole
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nah this patch spider is better

pearl laurel
lime oriole
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sss+ wehl

shut basin
bitter summit
bitter summit
kind smelt
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L

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See yall later im getting off for like 1 week

leaden ice
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im assuming the new character is just slotted into the 3rd slot for the Nihil team right?

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havent looked into anything beforehand, so was surprised to log in to new Nihil unit that was also free

willow umbra
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we will know for sure next nihil wz

small storm
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How do I build my nirvatia? And which units should I be using along with her

willow umbra
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nihil wz*

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we can make an educated guess that ishmael might actually be out of the team if below SSS rank...

leaden ice
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i guess its prob worth pulling for her anyways since it eventually gives u her weapon for free?

willow umbra
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what

leaden ice
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unless im blind on what the bonus thing is

willow umbra
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what gives you her weapon for free?

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no no dont pull nirvatia

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you get her weapon free from service shop already

willow umbra
small storm
leaden ice
willow umbra
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thats for nirvatia only

willow umbra
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and its generally not worth it unless you're whaling for SSS+

leaden ice
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yeah nirvatia weapon and cub i meant

willow umbra
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you can get those from service shop already so no point

leaden ice
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i didnt notice they were in the shop so i assumed it was pull for a copy and get her weapon+cub along the way

willow umbra
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ah nope

lime oriole
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globlul cant read

willow umbra
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Nah he said he hasnt looked into anything beforehand so understandable

lime oriole
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still had to say it

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life isnt life when you dont make fun of globlul players

leaden ice
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i play a bunch of different gachas and I try keep up with their news

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so for some i decided to not look at whats coming up for my own sanity

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and its a nice surprise when i log in sometimes

mellow isle
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Guys, which ssr should i pick from the selector?

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These characters are all i have

proven hamlet
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Either Nanami or Ishmael, wait for next week for confirmation

rigid tulip
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Chest selection, lucia or ish?

mellow isle
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I have nihil and dark dps with luna and bianca, still worth going for ishmael?

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Lightling i only have the free crimson weave

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Dont have fire dps, is it worth to pick pyroath?

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Sorry im new

lime oriole
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attacker ≠ dps

wooden stirrup
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And it is wise to focus on one energy at a time

proven hamlet
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Except she's not meta in any of these teams except lightning and nihil, maybe not even nihil

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She needs a leap that increases her damage and give her permanent shred field

dawn topaz
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Imagine alpha is light amp somehow

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Ish gone from meta

wooden stirrup
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Meta wise I agree

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Just making due is enough for the time being

vale crater
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Maybe she will be leaped, would be cool anyway, but Hanying got skipped for some reason, same with Qu

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And other characters so at this point we dont know whom will be leaped

north peak
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Who said hanying got skipped

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She came out after Luna

dawn topaz
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Hanying pls die

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I need kamui to be phys breaker

kind cypress
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what do we use for nirvatia memory?

dawn topaz
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Nothing

dusky fiber
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Cause there is no nihil warzone to test

kind cypress
dusky fiber
hazy valve
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What 2 resonance Geiravor use??? I’m running her with Hervor and Cottie

dense edge
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DPS nirvatia or support

elder stratus
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correct me if wrong but I saw a text where it said one can sss nirvatia without spending pulls, is that true?

small helm
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do we know nirvatia build yet?

dawn topaz
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No

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Next Monday

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About

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Prolly

small helm
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kk tysm

pearl laurel
novel veldt
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Theres a guide for it in the pins and on youtube

dawn topaz
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Grok ai alive

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What’d u do for ice trailblazer

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Solo Teddy support build wanshi?

tranquil quest
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Who should i choose here?

pastel crater
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Vera

dawn topaz
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Vera

pastel crater
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Geiravor

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A rank doesn't matter

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Pick u like

dawn topaz
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Choose discord

tranquil quest
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Thanks

dawn topaz
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Screw hanying

cunning thistle
pastel crater
proven hamlet
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What if you wait for Rosetta in blue ticket

dawn topaz
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Or she needs 3

pastel crater
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Just pull rosetta in half anni

proven hamlet
#

True

dawn topaz
#

Sss3 rose

tranquil quest
#

Her right?

proven hamlet
#

Zamn whel

proven hamlet
dawn topaz
#

Do NOT choose the dragon on th left

pastel crater
dawn topaz
#

2.3 teddy whale

tranquil quest
proven hamlet
dawn topaz
#

Fr

#

We all got baited into pulling

pastel crater
#

2s teddy should kill 1 stack knight and chaos, 2 stack on hell

dawn topaz
#

Only good thing is boba

dawn topaz
#

Guess we’ll see

#

Spent half hour tryna find a new profile pic

pastel crater
proven hamlet
dawn topaz
#

Where the Selena fan arts at bruh

proven hamlet
#

PGR fanarts are rare

#

Small small community

tranquil quest
#

Is she good?

dawn topaz
#

Don’t pull

#

On that

#

She’s free

proven hamlet
#

Yes, but she's free

tranquil quest
#

Where?

proven hamlet
#

Do her affection story

tranquil quest
#

Ohhh

#

Event?

proven hamlet
#

Yeah

dawn topaz
#

All the way to last page barely any fan arts

#

Bruh

proven hamlet
#

Click in her art at the main menu

tranquil quest
#

This one?

proven hamlet
#

Yep

#

Do the 6 chapters and she'll be available in top left corner

proven hamlet
dawn topaz
#

Forgot about that

#

My dumb ahh checking twitter

proven hamlet
#

Bruh

tranquil quest
#

Is she like good?

proven hamlet
#

Twitter you wont find anything

proven hamlet
tranquil quest
#

Will she work with other elements?

north peak
#

One of the strongest units in the game

north peak
sweet spoke
proven hamlet
dawn topaz
shut basin
north peak
proven hamlet
shut basin
#

Pretty sure they have tons of Selena

north peak
#

Classes mean nothing in this game for damage

dawn topaz
#

The server?

shut basin
sweet spoke
dawn topaz
#

I’ll go check that too

proven hamlet
north peak
#

Nirv is best Nihil dps ye

tired nexus
sweet spoke
#

Is she? I thought the girl on the rerun banner was

proven hamlet
#

Who

sweet spoke
#

I think she had pink hair

#

Don't remember the name

proven hamlet
#

She's the weakest of the 3

north peak
#

The Goated One

proven hamlet
pastel crater
tired nexus
#

She was the dps when she came out, but then Oblivion got a leap and outdamaged her

Now Nirv is here and outdamages both of em

sweet spoke
#

Ahh ok most tier list says shes pretty good

north peak
proven hamlet
dawn topaz
north peak
proven hamlet
#

Check the faq for meta teams

tired nexus
proven hamlet
#

That's what you should follow

tired nexus
proven hamlet
#

When it updates ofc

north peak
sweet spoke
tired nexus
north peak
#

Now if ur low invest it was cooked to begin with

proven hamlet
sweet spoke
proven hamlet
north peak
proven hamlet
#

Each unit is meant to be played for different teams covering elements

dawn topaz
proven hamlet
tired nexus
dawn topaz
#

Yo fate u seeing this in meta help rn

north peak
#

Luna was the backbone when void needed to steal units to be complete but she’s served her purpose and now she’s the biggest fraud of the team

proven hamlet
tired nexus
sweet spoke
north peak
#

Locked cottie locked 2ult she is really the one holding void back

tired nexus
#

At least second amp can use Guin/heal mems and and second tank provides extra shred and CD reduc

#

Attacker is doing NOTHING

dawn topaz
#

I got jump scared

north peak
#

What second amp lol

dawn topaz
#

Why is midbanca on my screen

#

When I just login

proven hamlet
#

You set her to be the head assistant

#

So she always appears when you log in

dawn topaz
#

Oh wait it’s birthday thing

dawn topaz
dawn topaz
#

Get that trash outta here

proven hamlet
dawn topaz
#

Bro

#

I only have Selena

north peak
#

I would so much rather have Luna out the team than ish out the team and that’s not just bias that’s how dumb lunas restrictions are

proven hamlet
north peak
#

There’s zero flexibility in how she could ever work it’s so AylaTired

tired nexus
#

Luna can use literally any tank breaker support or amp

dawn topaz
#

The only story where I don’t skip

north peak
north peak
#

Ish is all inclusive

tired nexus
#

Wdym

north peak
#

If kuro decides to replace ish over luna something is wrong

pearl laurel
#

that would be aweome BiancaInnocent

dawn topaz
#

Lol

proven hamlet
dawn topaz
#

Fighting over nothing

#

A rank Teddy best nihil

north peak
#

It’s not nothing

#

I am really being serious

tired nexus
#

So am I

proven hamlet
#

Inb4 after next week testing, nihil still uses both Luna and Ishmael

pearl laurel
#

thou me mad at loona today, cuz even at sss, she can't drop hell gundam without that awful hold dodge rota BiancaUpset

north peak
#

Luna can’t do anything

dawn topaz
#

Ok gramps

#

Might be a sign to r3 that Luna

tired nexus
pearl laurel
dawn topaz
#

What

tired nexus
#

And I guess disruption team too since that's now a thing

north peak
#

Yeah the nihil team does not function optimally without all three units

dawn topaz
#

I’m saving funds for half anni

#

Maybe 3s Selena

pearl laurel
#

nu uh, you gib those fundings to me NanaPout

dawn topaz
tired nexus
north peak
#

I know

tired nexus
#

Nihil team does not need Ish

#

Luna is the glue

gaunt dome
#

my controller dont work on story (iphone) any fix?

tired nexus
#

Luna can and has been used just as much as Ish in WZ if not arguably more

north peak
#

Low invest is a joke

dawn topaz
tired nexus
north peak
#

Indeed it does

pearl laurel
#

sss+ or 🚮

tired nexus
#

You can't just dismiss something because it doesn't apply to best invests

north peak
#

I wouldn’t know best invests either

#

I know minimum invest

tranquil quest
#

What's her memory set?

tired nexus
tranquil quest
#

Oh

tired nexus
# tranquil quest Oh

Yea because we're synced with CN we're testing stuff out the same time they are, builds are not finalized on Day1 anymore

north peak
tranquil quest
dawn topaz
#

Bruh I got no elemental amps this week

tired nexus
#

That she's the glue of her team now and the glue of other teams before

dawn topaz
#

Nvidia gotta thug it out at lvl 1

north peak
#

Oh yes she was the glue before

tired nexus
north peak
#

Now she is ready to go

tired nexus
#

Nirvatia doesn't change anything though

#

Nihil is not working without Luna

#

Could you use a different attacker w Ish+Nirv? Technically yes but like why when there's no benefit

north peak
#

She is the weak link

#

The team could be so good if it were allowed more freedom

quick quest
#

What should be the memories if I want to use nanami as main dps.
Will luna and vera be just qte bot?
What should be the rotation if not?

tired nexus
tired nexus
#

Yes CW Feral Nanami for the time being until you can gear your Nanami more and be able to drop CW and Feral

quick quest
#

Alright thank you

north peak
#

We need Luna kicked out just like that true

frigid iron
#

This Deja Vu...
Magama complained about Luna, someone asked about Lightning team and Myrcle explained
I have seen this scene before I swear

tired nexus
frigid iron
#

Overtime working must have fried my brain

tired nexus
#

I feel like you need to fix the nihil team entirely tbh

quick quest
#

I'll get a weap selector later, is nanami sig the best? I read before here that luna sig is the best value for that

north peak
tired nexus
#

Also just because a character has only one specific intended manner of use due to her class doesn't mean the character is actually restrictive in her use cases, if that makes sense

frigid iron
#

There's no Nanami Sig in that selector otherwise it wohld be the best

north peak
#

Which might I add doesn’t need to be an annihilator anymore

tired nexus
#

What I mean by that

frigid iron
#

It's gonna be the next Luna bts

quick quest
#

Ok ok ty

frigid iron
#

Void Attacker Luna

tired nexus
#

Luna is meant to convert buffs whenever she is used in any team, she only has that one fundamental use. But that doesn't make her use case scenarios restrictive

frigid iron
#

Back to being a filthy attacker instead of the awesome Annihilator

north peak
#

I would take that I don’t hate Luna I hate oblivion

#

Nirv really brought out her issues

frigid iron
#

Nah I do like that Fraudmael got exposed by Nvidia

#

This fraud has been glazed far too much

north peak
#

I’m afraid I look at things at the equal invest angle

silver bridge
frigid iron
#

I'm looking at human invest instead

tired nexus
#

If Ishmael wasn't restricted to having an attacker in the team she would be been 1000x times better, but they placed that stupid restriction for some reason

north peak
#

Like I said earlier low and mixed invest is just a joke in this game

#

Blame kuro for that

north peak
frigid iron
#

Realistically this is how most of us would look like

north peak
#

That’s where basic human rights begin

tired nexus
#

You cant win against stupid

frigid iron
#

Kusogames make the rules

#

We are just their victims, continue suffering as we keep playing longer

dawn topaz
frigid iron
#

I'm no whel

north peak
#

Look at what units need to surpass ish tho TeddyTooSmug

#

Free, leap, multiple patches ahead

tired nexus
#

Ish would probably be better if she was just a regular tank or amp instead of Obersver

#

She has so many unique mechanics that work to her advantage, but the one thing that was made to widen her scope ironically became the thing that restricted her potential

north peak
#

Again low invest doesn’t really have rights

#

But the rank passives are just too valuable

tired nexus
#

Again though you can't just dismiss non-333+ comps

#

Sub 333 doesn't just not exist

frigid iron
#

Unc about to die anyway

dawn topaz
#

Is that nuke

#

Smh

north peak
frigid iron
#

Already dead in Copeflow

#

Next is Fire

north peak
#

Ish is definitively better with observer at least even at lower ranks

#

All I see is updating numbers with meta

tired nexus
frigid iron
north peak
#

Little reason ever why you would need her to be stuck

frigid iron
#

And people praised this as the most flexible class?

#

You see why I hate Ish glazing?

north peak
#

I can say even for pretty much all invests having updating numbers is a good thing

#

And with ss3 even, value jumps exponentially

north peak
#

I’m sure we can all agree ss3 is not too unrealistic

tired nexus
#

SSS Ishmael retains her space in the nihil team

#

That is fact

north peak
#

I fail to see in most scenarios why you wouldn’t want observer over tank or amp

tired nexus
#

Because in nihil it gives you more options to work with

north peak
#

Are you ever gonna need these options when the best in slots are so readily available

#

Like her primary purpose with this was to slot into other teams, but update in nihil

#

I’m mostly concerned about what’s happening within the nihil team

tired nexus
north peak
#

And no matter how I slice it Luna comes out on the bottom

tired nexus
#

Which is why so far she's only even been slotted into lightning cause Feral is old dust

north peak
#

It’s a placeholder

#

And especially useful for newer players

#

We said on release this doesn’t really do much for people who have established accounts

#

But having those updating numbers was crucial

#

Now she’s breaker as she should be

tired nexus
#

Ok I dont think Im wording this properly

north peak
#

And none of it would ever be possible with static tank or amp

tired nexus
#

English is my only language yet I cant fcking speak it

north peak
#

English is hard most people would agree

tired nexus
#

My brains blanking idk how to put this anymore

#

Fck me stupid ass brain

#

We need a mediator

#

To declare a winner

formal nexus
#

ish fits into elemental teams just great if you dont happen to have those other frames at all

#

id rather have a subpar ish tank in half a dozen teams than spend any resources or currency on old tanks

tired nexus
frigid iron
#

So great that all team she can slot in is Nihil & Lightning

#

We have better option everywhere else

formal nexus
#

ok you do not have wata

#

who are you putting in as your fire tank

frigid iron
#

Nanami

formal nexus
#

we just throw nanami into everything then

frigid iron
#

I mean yeah

north peak
#

To summarise
Ish is most likely to be kicked off the team for low/mixed invest
Luna is holding back invested teams from performing as they should
Ish observer class has good and bad aspects

#

That’s all I got

formal nexus
#

im not gonna argue the finer points of "this frame is 2% better" but if i had to choose 1 frame, ish would be it

#

and i would save everything else for newer frames

north peak
#

I hope those are agreeable

frigid iron
#

Agree with this no objection

formal nexus
#

not spend all my resources on old frames that get replaced before long, or 4 other tanks

#

i would of killed for ishmael's perks when i was a new player

frigid iron
#

Ish poisoned the mind of many players with her fraud ass "potential" class

formal nexus
#

i just had patch after patch of incomplete teams with A rank whoevers

tired nexus
north peak
#

It’s kuros for making attackers absolutely awful

formal nexus
#

oh you know what

#

its tanks not being like real element specific anymore (anymore? dont ask how it used to be)

#

its all just -20% extra dmg

frigid iron
#

Ice: Two free units
Lightning: Replace a gen 2 woaw
Fire: Vera is god Uncle is better even at lower invest
Dark: Lilith free Ros is a god
Phys: Unusable

#

What is she filling for newbies again

tired nexus
north peak
tired nexus
#

Not the main reason but it doesn't help her right now either

north peak
#

It is a boon to the team with sufficient invest

dawn topaz
#

Y’all still talking about this lolTeddyTooSmug

frigid iron
#

Well this is not exactly Ish fault if I'm gonna be real, this is just how it is when we have a free SSS Tank who got two selectors dedicated to him and a good leap

north peak
#

Good and bad I’m kinda over this now

tired nexus
north peak
#

No it’s a direct upgrade thanks to the way it works

tired nexus
#

Wait

#

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

north peak
tired nexus
#

Ok now I understand your point of view better

tired nexus
north peak
#

The state of the game looks very different now than it did back then

#

Slowly and surely yes there’s been free units and strong units have come and gone

tired nexus
#

You mean to say that Luna being the glue of the team is true but it sucks because the glue is inherently corrosive to the potential to the team, correct?

frigid iron
formal nexus
#

feral and wata are the only 2 frames older than luna, shes like 2 years old isnt she

north peak
tired nexus
#

Ok I think I can frame myself a little more clearly now hopefully

frigid iron
#

Sometime it's not about their age it's about their power level

#

Unc would die after Pyro for example because that's just how bad Attacker is

formal nexus
#

i just mean 2 years ago their design philosophy could of been a bit different
and luna might not fit as well as before then

frigid iron
#

Luna got a leap to keep up with time

north peak
frigid iron
#

She's actually the best gen 3 "Attacker" right now

north peak
#

It all depends on perspective

frigid iron
#

I honestly don't think SSS Wata is high invest it's more like oldbie invest

north peak
frigid iron
#

For newbies they simply use the newest units

formal nexus
#

i dont have sss wata but i dont really prioritize SSS units

north peak
#

Yea

frigid iron
#

And don't backpull

tired nexus
formal nexus
#

luna's elemental harmonization thing is bad for nihil, because any element can fill in for tank, is what i think you're getting at

north peak
#

I can live with the idea of ish class only being bad because of attackers being bad because that is just how her dependency works

tired nexus
#

They didn't need to add that dependency factor though to begin with is the issue

formal nexus
#

they experimented with a new class

#

didnt work out as a net positive

north peak
#

They didn’t need to make Luna annihilator work the way it does either

#

But they did

#

It’s how it is

frigid iron
#

They never had to do all this nonsense but they did because they're Kusogames

north peak
frigid iron
#

Like who tf asked for Breaker

north peak
#

It’s just Kuro games

tired nexus
#

I would say Annihilator class being the way it is for Luna is justifiable for when she dropped (as she was the only nihil unit on debut)

#

But making Ishmael dependent on having her is not

north peak
formal nexus
#

call me crazy but i dont think nihil is necessarily going to be a commonly replaced element

north peak
#

I was just choosing Luna as a random example

formal nexus
#

also its fine to experiment

#

thats why we have affix

north peak
#

Kuro just makes a lot of decisions that are Not Smart

formal nexus
#

thats why we have HORSE now cause their earlier models couldnt handle it

viral axle
frigid iron
#

Potential company

#

If and could but never would

viral axle
#

Personally tho Kuro does things like 1000 times better than 99.9999% of other companies as far as PGR goes

north peak
#

Is that a real sentence

viral axle
#

I mean as far as other gachas go

#

Oops

frigid iron
#

They call Kusogames 007
0 whale supported
0 balance
7 S rank in a row

formal nexus
#

LivPray thank god im not doing genshin dailies for a 50% after spending an hour every day playing

viral axle
#

English not Englishing today

violet birch
#

ew.. kuroslop

viral axle
violet birch
#

pgr needs to eos soon
wuwa too

tired nexus
viral axle
#

Why do we have Veronica in physical and then horse in dark versus Bianca

#

It’s sad

proven hamlet
#

All gacha needs to eos