#📨・general-help
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will veronica aegis be added to the standard banner?
I don't see why not
oh nevermind, she already is, i was looking at A rank, my bad
Anyone know a good video for teddy’s rotation? A simple rot guide pls
its pretty simple
i don't have video tho
Way simpler than solo wanshi?
swap in, yellow, ult1
choose blue, blue+yellow, or red+blue+yellow, then ult
then do 3x 3ping, red, ult1
and red+blue+yellow ult
swap out
just spam 
#punishinggrayraven #teddy #ice #herowarzone #pgrgameplay #pgr #sightlinebreach #teddyspectre #wanshi #lilith

i am 
i full 3s and still less than 9m
Get sss6 Teddy for less brain damage rot

Is this the same in all contents?
i just needed more time and practice but i keep messing up ONE INPUT for wanshi every time
emperor you go 2stack I think 
I just lived with the 5bullets and so on
beeg dmg loss
I got more than you 
hush

i kept giving up instead of just finishing
my 8.4m was random bllsht on wanshi and teddy
I told you to dream about your run then replicate
i tried
is there something wrong with my Luna build? why she is barely does damage meanwhile my Ishmael does better damage than her
is there leap for luna?
ah she does i never check it 
Also for her rot, check the pins
is nanami a good overall tank for early game
Hmm, can go 4 cottie or 2 ein
She's really good even in late game

Nana best unit
but for early game can i slap her into any team
Isn't ishmael mdps anyway?
Not any team
rn i have an amalgamation of teddy and luna and a reserved spot for something
You can slot her on zaza teams not any
i have no zaza units aside from weave and kitty
Wow not mentioning Vera
Zaza is luna
not zapp?
Zap


He meant why Lotte's wife is called Zaza


LUNA HAS A HUSBAND?

oh hell no
Its just called that way
Lotte

;-;;
does teddy have a husband
woah a husband

oh i didnt do her story stages
how many are there now

idk, Lotte only loona husband ik
others all lucia selena or ishy
No, shes a fraud 
isn't there that fraud hyperlee guy in #💬・pgr-general
I forgor
pak wehl
Shutup whel
loona simp?

Equal. Problem is Ish eins is worse application than Luna

at least 3 it seems
eins ishy 

Segs


pak
Way more than three 
at the same time??
4 then?
I can’t count beyond three
Selena Condelina 
there's also Timi 

Shush
Watch 4pc condelina got reworked later patch
25% edb on hit 
When buff nanami: holoverse memo
HoYoverse

Nanami Honkai StarTrail Hoyoverse
extra T
obviously its Nanami: Star Rail


Fate where did you get Nitro?
he always had one
Fate is whel


what just happened



Fork plis execute
do i still got time to get teddy

Its permanent
Thanks for calling
Oh no
oh
Pls ban paper
Fork, Paper is boollying me
I mean idk if i can do it but i can try


You can still do the limited event missions so ur good
Can easily get teddy in 2weeks or 3 if not enough
Its permanent.
It'll be like Lilith, available even after the patch ended
Tho its better u get it now
Hi, what should be my first weapon resonance for teddy spectre?
Matrix lightning?
Its either SAR or GS
It depends on your 2nd amp
On Teddy Wanshi + any amp (Lilith) if Lilith there already R2, then Lilith use the 2 amp reso while Teddy doesnt need any
Thank you
If Lilith only R1 then Teddy use the other one which is missing
Vera must've done while you weren't looking
should I do the chapters in between? why does it suggest chapter 9 after 1
Yeah you should since it gives BC you can just speedrun mode
Imagine speedrun mode
story sk*pper

Womp womp 

oh ok, thanks
Due to be removed from the timeline ig its because its boring and poor writing(i forgot the reason)
He forgot
My memory is bad
bombs skip everything, ofc he forgor
I remember nothing from before chapter 11
I guess Selena introduction?
That was 9 I think

Uhhh the bianca vs whateverthehellitwascalled was pretty cool
Oh that's
Later
Right?
No before
Akdilek was alright jamilah's pretty hot
Kamui's little arc was confusing
Watanabe with Liv had me stressing a little bit
That's pretty much all the important stuff right
I only remember Nanami trying to save liv


only thing I remember was Lucia and Bianca riding on a bike

Ohh i remember that
vs something huge wtvr
It's the huge thing on the train
But ofc you remember that Levi 
Hermaphrodite
it was metal that's for sure

I don't know I didn't hear what he said
Has your memory gone?
not at all
are you feeling numb?
Why does he randomly turn around
hes scared that someone might be following him
like... a phantom?
He's turning around like a gear
A metal gear even becuz he's a construct
They were sent via mail or something.
only 1 of the 3 tickets were sent to me, thats the weird thing
Who's going to be the next banner after teddy:spectre? And when is it?
Well, this means you didn't win the other two.
New Rosetta dark tank
On early Feb
Thank you.
Honse, February, 2
yh, but didnt u get 50 shards if u lost? i only got 50 once
Not that I know of. 50 tickets was a part of points' rewards and maybe one of the smaller ones? Anyways, that was all.
🙁
What? You can't hear the word?
guys should i use cottie for teddy or is it unnecessary?
No
Teddy uses 4 Joanna and 4 Chen
for ice
It does nothing for teddy
Both ult1 and ult2 requires moves, not energy for teddy
Nah, cottie is meant to withstand the allmighty Polar Bear, god of thunder 
Signature move for bottom, atk rest
No
what would work best then
Just amp resos
If you already have amp reso for 3rd amp, use incandescent then
Teddy sig reso is pretty low on priority
i havent put any weapon resonances yet
Incandescent better than matrix?
Other Chara and team will properly can use that reso better
Yes
She only does matrix once
Nothing afterwards
True
so can i do incandescence?
If you have spare USB, could do. Otherwise better save for Rosetta
If you have r2 for other support in the team then yeah
Cuz teddy best team rn is teddy wanshi and Lilith or other amp with more weapon reso for amp resos
what's lilith build in ice team again 
4 dv 4 guin
glorious spear or axial ray?
Both if you have r2
i dont 
harmo dv or guin?
what's vera's support build in igni wz?

4dv 4guin or 2 guin 2 ein class reso
Also there's no ignition wz rn

Just team-building
Because she's a support
In a ice team

had this on for some reason
unfortunately
and i wasnt using ice team this week only for ppc
, last week i still use qu
I mean, mine is also.
That vera build is still usable
There's df rn
You can't use lilith this week ppc anyway 
Tho, u dont have her support build?
never used her for support tbh
nope
just have lv 1 memo to put on
when did she become a member????😭😭
what plasma? 
dont have lucia and i dont think i need to talk about karen 
almost had me
Oh I got mixed up
thought this was addressing my text
didn't see the name
did they change how arrival banner works?
now losing 70/30 nets you one of the other 2 units?

Yes
that's not how it always work? 
Nope
no, i think before you could lose to any other unit in the game


Explore the 47 characters of Pac from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
judging from this who needs their 6* weapon

aren't both still somewhat usable compared to sigless ish

-# Dunno, I'm not that poor
Nana sig far from necessary now solely because Liv
Nana or Vera sig still betta since you're gonna use them much more often than ish
Does dps and heisen at the same time
Sig nana isn't really game changer compared to 5* when paired with Liv
Vera
Ish probably second
Your have r1 vergil
I don't think pulling Selena sig would do much rn especially because she's still S


hmm aight then thx y'all 🙏🏻
If you had Crepuscule, I'd pull her weapon before ish after vera
Im just basing in who have more teams tbh

Difference between normal and fate arrival construct?
Never pull fate
Give em that damned sticker fate
Themed banner is for the debuted character, in this case, it's Teddy
It has 60 pull pity, and will cost 15k to get a character
Fate themed banner is same as themed banner, but with increased chance of 1.5% per pull
There's a catch, the pity is randomise, it can range between 80 to 100, depends on your luck, you either get a character at a single pull or you'll need 25k BC to get it
Arrival banner is for past unit, there's 3 of them that you can choose, but it has 70/30 pity, so if you lose, you'll get the other character instead
Fate arrival banner is just like fate themed banner
I got this pasta

Where's the sticker
Nihil isn't real bro
Wake up

Oooo alr alr ty planning to pull for crepuscule


Wait, isn't it nihil zone dis week?
nuh uh
#🌞・trophy-room
Before mods get yo ash
bro lost 🙏🏻
Wym
We can't post gacha pull here
Alr alr mb
should I get her from select 
What I'm trying to tell is that
I wouldn't consider start building nihil team when
My physical team still only has S hanying
My light tank nana is still S
My vera only has 5*
Don't have crepes to play swap dark

Idk, Rosetta dark tank coming
You may or may not have a strat to just use new Rosetta and Lilith for dark team
I was just asking tho
But no one knows how much better if you have Bianca
Her v2 seems huge
hmm
Can't say for sure if worth going down that path without a y confirmation
🔨
I mean I'm like 50 pulls away from pity so I can def wait and see
67 and 21
Honestly, you have the option to save all of those pulls until Rosetta is released and tested
Or
Fcking yolo it and get Bianca now and get the chance to play Bianca, Rosetta Lilith on release
This feels like a punishment
midanca 🚮 on ss0, might as well ignore her if you would only get that rank, especially if no sig weapon/cub
I do, in wz
and she is, without a doubt, the most useless char I ever wasted my
on
the most useless prize for me goes to Qu Shukra
she didnt have her sig so I just solod wanshi after doing 1 rotation with her
and I finally got her sig... last patch before teddy kicked her out
Qu deserved that after all of those hit/stun from both solo and swap
Trash attacker
She even deletes her own orb at some cases
Like what's even the point of that
Even Luna solo/swap isn't even that unbearable
No wonder she deserves a leap
if you ping orbs too fast in red/blue form on luna ppc rot, she sometimes won't get energy for ult2
she has her own issues too 
when i start chapter 2 in the old version interface, i can still skip to chapter 9 in the new one, yes?
Yep
free money

I've deleted them
Do I put alphonse dv on wata if vera already has shakes?
yes
any idea what/where that board game looking thing that gives exp is?
i got infodumped by the tutorial and missed it..
the one where you go in circles? go to missions. you'll find it on the lower left of your screen
it's called operation guardians
found it, thanks!!
If i replay the chapters do i have to do all the fights again?
Your basically redoing the stage but at free stamina
how do I parry attacks with aegis against the big robot thing in the new teddy event
are these coating not sold in the shop? how do you get them? clicking on them only shows description and no source (img is for lilith:daemonissa and lucia:crimson weave, but there are some more for other characters that dont show source)
there's also the codex
those are usually paid coatings, the 6th one you can get by logging in daily, but that period is long gone
paid coatings
will have to wait for a rerun if you want it
or in the case of middle left, it was part of the BRS collab if im not mistaken
meaning 99.999% lower chance of rerun
nah it came way after
oh rly?
around DMC (before or after i dont remember) or something
???
When the boss flies away from the arena, it starts shooting red orbs. You parry those, they count towards the objective.
ohh I see, thanks
can you parry all 3?
also why tf is the boss so cancer
i keep messing up the take 10 or less hits one
or i just die in one hit after not getting hit the whole time
I guess so, If you don't have skill issues like me.
1 parry was enough to tick the box though.
im doing the hardest difficulty
objective is take 10 or less hits
that one attack where it sends out shields in all directions keeps onetapping me
kill vero
Ah, I see. I didn't touch highest difficulty yet.
Wait we need parry
the parry is easy for the most part
just when they start spamming attacks it becomes a nightmare to play

OMFG I WAS SO CLOSE JUST NOW
no hits taken, boss on 1 bar of hp
then i mess up and got onetapped
fk this game
all i get is 5 basic overclock items and 5 weapon enhancers
imma just give up and skip this objective
Huh
Will worth to fight
do rerun banners always have 70/30?
Yes, unless it's anni banner, also if you lose 70/30 you'll get whatever else character is on the banner with them
- SFX coating, most likely will be rerun
- SFX coating, just disappeared, so will take a while to rerun (maybe in next patch)
- SFX coating from Black Rock Shooter collab, will not rerun
- SFX skin, may or may not rerun since CW is dead already
- VFX skin, will likely rerun as empyrea and lamia and balter all had theirs rerun
- This was a free normal collab skin that was part of a sports collab (like Nike) so it will likely not rerun.
Not "whatever character"
Any character
Any S rank from the game's lifespan
Arrival does, we don't know how phylotree will be handled
No, if it's arrival banner you'll only get whatever character on it
if you lose 70/30
Experience? 
What if it just happened by chance?
They mentioned it explicitly when it got changed
I don't read what I don't see

I got a random character once, by using free pulls I think
It was none of the rate up characters
So I'd be more than happy to be corrected if this was changed some time ago
I can go out of my way and find a patch note where it was mentioned, but I'm not helper
But I guess magma is more than reliable source

oh ok, thanks
interesting system, kinda lesser risk ig
It was fixed
I remember getting karenina scire while pulling for tenebrion about 2 years ago
Where can i see it
I have a question, i played this game back in the day when it first released i played for like 3 months maybe? But i stopped my level is prob at 35ish and i remember having lucia crimson abyss and kamui bastion, now im just wondering should i play again from scratch make a new acc, or should i stay with this acc
Karen training for stay as meta:
Hip hop go go bunny
Too old yeah, better make a new acc, cuz it's been years since release
And those characters you listed are in no way relevant anymore
Btw here's newbie guide to get you started
#📨・general-help message
Thankyou so much
Thats too old
Better start with a new account
Btw
Since you mentioned you had abyss in old account
You will get crimson weave for free when you start a new account(but keep in your mind that she is no longer meta)
Yoooooo, its alright tho if it looks cool ill take it. Made me remember how roland used to be a meme back in the days
Click your profile
Then shiuld be bottom right ish i think
What's the reso for nanami?
You can exchange it with bc or ec
Kinda sad ima need to make a new acc tho
Just downloaded again and logged in
Im a beginner rn is there anything i can get with ec or do i js use it
Welp ec is also used for pulling in banners just same as bc, but I ain't the guy if you want to know how to spend it wisely
Well tbh there is nothing valuable on that account 
Trust me, a fresh restart is better than rebuilding from ruins
okay
I just got back to the game after a while should I go for any of these?
this what I have
Teddy Spectre is free, so no need to pull
Arrival is ehh, wouldn't recommend. Nanami is available in thunderbolt research, Wanshi is free, and Bianca is in a tough spot
Get Wanshi from Dorm Commissions for free
Nanami from Thunderbolt research
Teddy free from service missions
alright will do that
A qte event still counts as “attacking” the enemy right
Yeah
I’m thinking of putting a 4x Patton on my startrail as a phys tank cuz I don’t have hanying is that a good idea
Do you atleast have Rosetta?
Rigor nope
Yeah you can then
Wait it works????
Tho it'll probably perform very bad
Yep and my nanami is on 4x Patton plus deconstruction lol
Did you not know this
Where are Christmas mini-game rewards being sent to??
What day 😭 because they haven’t come yet
The take less than 11 hits goal on the event is hard 
Yeh, it took me 30mins
pak that cottieless midnica paired with a horrid boss 
I haven't done it yet, one was close at 2hp bars then got hit lmao
it's doable, just not used to hard stuff in pgr 
ye, and I can't see where the tin-can goes, pc free cam bricced
Do it in inferno
that's the only place we need to do it 
ye, the rest of em can facetank with our own chars
I was only using the trial vero trial beside easy mode
wutdafruit, you some kinda masochist? 
Need to 3ping to ult
yeah but like how do I parry, do I do a normal attack right before the orbs and stuf?
ye normal attacks, just tricky timingg
your attack animation need to connect with the boss' attack animation
can only do it on boss attacks that flash orange
any attack works btw, not just normal attack
orbs, ult, core, whatever, just hit the tin can at the right time
Or 2 3ping and a ton of basics
I did that when I paralyzed the boss
Also to build more prbs for next ult
Orbs*
I kept getting oneshotted by the boss after they spam attack the whole area
I could never see it then he lands on me doing the all direction attack
Whole area? The one he do when after starting the 2nd phase?
Ye
Does that attack where they land and then shoot a shield or smth in all directions
Freecam sucks
I cant even see the boss until i die
For that one, i just go all the way in back. Easy to evade while in ult mode
Hm
I see
Well im done anyways so 
Especially in ult mode, she's flying and one dodge already sent u in the back
Idk vero’s kit well
She does some sort of attack when dodge after red in ult mode i think?
Ohh
Is that used normally?
I was always just spamming 3 3pings of red then hold yellow
Then ult
.
Also did u parry his attack pretty often? Especially when he's flying.
He fly's a lot, it was so annoying 
You can parry?

I thought only the 3 orb attack, shield rush thingy, and one other thing was parryable
you’re telling me i cleared it without parrying parryable attacks?!
Same
Nah, it was hard to parry those, i just dodge
Oh
…

But the 10 hit challenge?
Hey, it kills u in inferno
Mandela effect
wtvr works

How do i get the yellow orbs for teddy’s radiance? The tutorial just gave them to me with no explanation
Imaginr parrying
I just
Ooga booga combo
I dont even dodge most of the time lmao im doing my rotation one way or another
Swap in > do yellow orb twice
Swapping in is the only way getting yellow orb outside ult
ah alrr tyty
Its from event bruh, you can only use veronica. Try playing it if u can unga bunga like u said
i dont do the parry events
huh
i usually skip them lmao

but this one if i just kill the boss on hard i get the pulls
so yuh i am ooga booga(ing?) it in the event


I just got back into PGR, and i only have 3 s ranks, Rosetta: Rigor, Liv: Empyrea, and Karenina: Ember. I was wondering who i should pull for or what team comps could work cus im pretty early game
Can follow this
#📨・general-help message
Also pick Vera: Geiravor in member target instead of ish
This for free units
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1438530128912191648
im trying to build all my units properly now
since i played so casual
just get characters and weapons

Wow Fatewhel helping
My misinfo pookie
Just ask here when ur building a unit for memo
That's ur title

Df better yeh
My internet bad, i can't even reply immediately smh
I know you're jorking it but i can't prove it

Vera is jork-
which 6 star weapon should i choose from the six staw weapon choice pack
i dont want to over whelm with the amount i want to build
What weap selector, is it up to luna laurel or luna Oblivion?
There's two so making sure
Counterpoint: you like the child Vera from her past.
I win
What the


how do i check
Read
even if i dont have a dps?
Just scroll to the right, screenshot the last one
Vera is main dps
Amp or tank can be main dps
Not just attacker
Vero 
She's my dps in physical rn
Also in ignition
No Nanaknight smh
Pick that if have luna: oblivion otherwise save it for now
fakewhel
nah just 1, vero dmg is garbo


Where were the Christmas event rewards given from the mini-game challenges?
Different element
pyroath and cw are 2 different attackers for 2 different elements and affixes
But I saw pyroath on meta list
fire meta yes
I didn't see cw on lightning meta
She's ded
cuz she got powercrept by Liv anyway
and Pyroath deals 0 lightn dmg, no use her as replacement
unless you're just doing story



All I saw were a lot of pending messages within the event tab, and am not sure I was sent anything
Fatie, do SS Liv use dlt in df wz?
is dark team gonna rose-lilith-daren if racist balt is not ss3?

Laovisha shut up
that's it
NONO
I'm telling Fork



Who

unhinged




@pastel crater Bianca 's challenge was easier but I can't kill Chiko 😭😭
I didn't play Pgr to be stressed out I'm done 
I still didn't try those bosses yet
im new to the game and im trying to play on both pc and ios, but my mobile device is locked to tw server while theres not an option to change to tw server on my pc client. does anyone have ideas on how i can deal with this?
You downloaded the wrong game
Bianca Ult not stopping time in PPC... aren't all Ults supposed to stop the timer?
Even after pressing the ult button, the timer goes up to 2 secs
Shouldn't the timer stop if boss dies?
Then when does the timer stop? It should stop when boss dies and pause during ults... right?
Then how?
That's the system

Don't ask me why
ty its actually this simple lmao
Oh... 5 secs animation & 2 s after... that's a 7s delay 😑
Yeh
That's PPC for you
Very well, I m just a little bit away from reaching intensive
? I finished all the challenges and got 100/100 points
How much resistance does this boss have? And how much does the affix remove?
Also what is the maximum time i need to complete the dungeon to be able to unlock the "intensive battle" tab?
How do i reach said score?
By having 600k total score each boss
What team did u use?
That's really low
Where Vergil
Or at least vero or worgil
My vergil is SSS with cub and weapon, will he be better here than bianca?
Yeh
Ok, should i reset my score or how does that function work?
He's second to sele tho why is ur sele weak
No weapon
You can only overwrite
Also no cub
Then use worgil 
just reset and redo
600k on each boss if we divide evenly, basic math 

but dark boss now much tankier than the rest, so that "evenly" won't really work 
luckily mado is squishy, so you get some extra score there
Woo hoo! I did it, I reached intensive battle for the first time... It has Ice, lightning & Ultima zone?
Does this give any rewards or skulls?
just one tap and dip, extra 6 skullz, getting rich the slacc way 
Middle boss was the easiest... got 622k on the first try
Score each boss with 1 score
That's it?
Nah, just a jk
2 enuff to qualify for rewards, doing 3 is way too much work 
But you can
Rewards based on ranking?
Yes
Will do except Ultima, don't have Vergil and don't like Stigmata even though she's SS3
yes 
Thanks, got better score👍
The new Rosetta is Ultima Slash DPS, right?
Eh?
da heck, that still seems way too low 
Try for 580K minimum for 25 skulls from achievement
Unga bunga rot i assume
I only redid, the last stage, i will reset the others and do em too
nu uh, 2 is enuff, 3 is overkill 

I prefer 6 or 7 myself 
Damn... I don't have a single SSS unit 😭
Btw, he does good in physical too? I thought he was meant for ultima slash?
Also does attacks crit in Ultima team?
ye they crit
Rosetta got a new Nuke Ult for Ultima slash... atleast she won't be a QTE bot for one team
Rose got buffed she's not qte bot anymore

Nerdgi bragging with other people's stuff again 
More field time than lilith?
Lol

for fk whels *
Nice 🔥
plebs won't do that
What bragging just showing worgil is better than midlena is all

Great... even for physical teams? Would still be a short rotation I hope... Hanying & Selena take enough field time
Physical teams?

pilot detected, opinion discarded 
She wont be in phys


Oh... Dark then?
Dark slash
Why? She does respectable damage and is free
Respectable doesn't matter when you're paired with the two most broken units in the game
At sss
Big asterisk
Bianca is such a funny unit
and how is washed worgil better when #2 place literally same score with midlena?
smh, the worgil glaze is unreal 
What about a small asterisk
After redoing all stages
Brcause 3S worgil can also match s+ Selena score
Yeah but Bianca ain't broken at SS, neither seems like Rosetta, even with a new class
My Lilith is SS3 with r2, so she still might live
Naur

With Bianca at ss lilith takes field time for sure
I don't think i can go any higer than this
Nah... get 580K minimum or account gets bricked.

You have sss worgil, some got 600k with ss worgil
remember, f2p fwiendly game 
Since when is SSS is minimum investment? 😭
I thought SS3 was considered a budget competitive build
They must have better supports? Idk what tk say to that, maybe my builds r all wonky? Though i consulted gray ravens website for em
It's a joke but what isn't a joke is how kuro have been continually shafting ss0 invest
To the point where characters are barely playable
did windbell make some pleb worgil runs on skych?
this guy could use some reference runs 
No, dont go in grayraven for builds also do a proper rot or follow a ref vid
True, they be getting greedy with WuWa as well 😭
Nah, only in slash
If that is the sentiment, i might have to over haul, literally my entire account 
I stopped spending whatever little I did spend at Wuwa & PGR and spend in other games now... not supporting greedy games
ye, support me instead 
Can try this
https://youtu.be/uTxLWjVG9g0?si=Bx-6Qvj5CNV3HlP5
0:00 Builds
0:30 Knight
1:07 Chaos
1:46 Hell
Just follow the vid and memo
I was the same and can confirm that I did overhaul almost my entire account after getting advice from this channel
My scores improved as a result
This is my vergil
That's good
Ignore the secator in the team i dont use her

That's a legit buid
What is that slash
Why no amp?
Vergil good build, ur team is the problem
Thanks to gray ravens I got to see the guinevere tankmael build potential

That slash is signature
guine tank > massive score gain 
I use alisa
investment?
Bricked
Condolences
ss Alisa in big 2026

it's sss or nothing
Like always
W this is so player friendly
Who should I SSS first from vouchers... Lilith, Wanshi or Qu's killer?
I think i can pain cahe shard her to SS or can use vouchers
Nevermind, get vero on rerun
Much better units to spend them on
Like?
Lilith, Wanshi, Wata, Teddy
It's a hard pick honestly given how Rosetta might change Lilith invest prio might change
The safe option is wanshi/teddy both ss3

Hmm, lilith is sss, meanwhile wanshi and wata r S and i don't have teddy yet
Ok will use there
What the vertical investment
They already are both SS3, so is Wata

Then prio is wanshi > teddy I hear sss wanshi is more of a score increase









