📨・general-help

[strong tundra]

okay

[iron mason]

Not only 1m

[stuck rover]

Should i go for ulti ppc considering i struggle to get clears for it?
Coz i played ulti ppc and damn it was hard

[iron mason]

If u have outliener boss left then yes

[wooden epoch]

Should, still can 1.5m fine as long as u have 3 built SS0 team (any element)
PPC can bruteforce with wrong element

[formal ridge]

You can still go ultimate just to do the outliers

[stuck rover]

What's outlier boss?

[wooden epoch]

And you'll learn and get better in the game if going in ult ppc

[stuck rover]

Despite my low scores?

And i dont have SS team for most elements

[formal ridge]

Outliers are the permanent old bosses that got retired from the mode. You get 75 skulls each for scoring 580k in them.

[strong tundra]

right set for my Liv with sig yes? she's below the rank of ss0 (idk the name) and can I go ahead to upgrade these?

[formal ridge]

If you clear all of the outliers you get enough skulls to SS three units of your choice

[sinful rivet]

ya just weapon harmo heisen

[stuck rover]

580k total for each bosses?

[sinful rivet]

can challenge each boss, 5 tiers of achivement per boss, giving 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 skulls (total 75) for up to 580k score per boss

unlimited attempts

[iron mason]

No ap too
So can use ur strongest team on all

[strong tundra]

what BP is considered as built character? my character have 5.5k-6k BP rn, those are selena, bianca and liv

[iron mason]

No

[formal ridge]

BP is irrelevant

[strong tundra]

oh

[sinful rivet]

bp irrelevant, but usually i find my built characters at around 7k bp

[stuck rover]

If bp doesnt matter, then how do i know if my char's good enough?

[stuck rover]

Is that SS+ with harmo sig wep?

[sinful rivet]

just... build it?
sig weapon, lvl 80, memories with resos, and hypertuned

[stuck rover]

What does hypertune do?

[iron mason]

7200 or 7300 it is

[formal ridge]

Upgrades your memory stats

[sinful rivet]

ss0 harmo sig, does not necessarily have sig resos
all memories lvl 80 45 (why tf would you not) and at least bottom row hypertuned

[pastel crater]

[iron mason]

Usually its just experiance and how new the units

[stuck rover]

Dont memories only reach 45 max? How does one reach lvl 80?

[sinful rivet]

... what

[iron mason]

Expect phys vero
She is mid in phys like alisa

[sinful rivet]

oh im stupid
yea i meant lvl 45

char max lvl 80 memory max lvl 45
its 1:37 am my brain isn't quite fully functional

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413137437613490206.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=biancabooty

[stuck rover]

Damn, go sleep vro

[sinful rivet]

busy malding wz lol

[strong tundra]

take it easy, happens to best of us

[pastel crater]

Dem, balding wz smh

[sinful rivet]

idk why i bother
i got slacc bracket
only 6 ppl so far and 2nd place is at around 3m total score

[pastel crater]

And in 1am

[stuck rover]

Man, we have a week ahead. Atleast mald while basking in sunlight or smth 😭

[gentle hawk]

i aint malding this wz, full of mobs, and with windbell in my bracket

[sinful rivet]

oh no

[iron mason]

Balding mobs ice phys and burn💀

[pastel crater]

[sinful rivet]

ok to be fair i only started my play session like 40 minutes ago
only half that time spent on wz

[formal ridge]

My 333 burn team can't even reach 10m this is so over

[iron mason]

Hero?

[formal ridge]

Legend

[pastel crater]

Nah, why bald in 1am tho

[iron mason]

[sinful rivet]

my whole bracket is so bricked scores wtf
that includes me

i don't got a burn team
my lightning is scoring 4m only

[iron mason]

Im in hero and get 11m on w64 with lightning
Thats why i ask

[gentle hawk]

i dont want to touch ignite even my invest is higher there due to vero

[formal ridge]

I only did one run tbf

[sinful rivet]

what does w64 mean

[iron mason]

Wave 64

[gentle hawk]

i really hate vero bro

[pastel crater]

You can try wata, vero, vera
Ur light is cooked, no nana

[formal ridge]

I heard liv is decent solo

[sinful rivet]

uhh
ok ill try

[sinful rivet]

my solo liv is my 4m score : (

[pastel crater]

Ss3 need for solo?

[formal ridge]

Crazy

[gentle hawk]

ss3 and above sure, ss0 just not much

[pastel crater]

Yeh, need ss3

[wooden epoch]

Not most element, just 3 teams of SS0, functional team. We bruteforce if unowned team
Low score can be because youre still learning
And you can never learn anything proper by staying in advance ppc

[iron mason]

Solo live is just long ult right?

[sinful rivet]

i think so...?

[pastel crater]

Nuke got solo
https://youtu.be/ar9vQQYZWFo?si=EGPidRdzv5NiYaMh

[stuck rover]

In all honesty, i dont have many ss chars. Still should go for ulti?

[formal ridge]

I assume you'd run out of orbs with short ult

[wooden epoch]

Have you ever go there once?

[sinful rivet]

i just do
hd, ult1, 3p, 4white, hb,ult2 (idfk how to do that sp delay)

[formal ridge]

I mean this week's uppc not that newbie friendly tbh

[stuck rover]

Thrice, maybe more. Struggled

[pastel crater]

Do that bald delay

[wooden epoch]

Yeah never short ult
Also SS0 abit bricked in orbs, unlike SS3
So need to improvised a bit, coping basically

[gentle hawk]

ult really give more than adv, just do outlier will give u 3 ss chara

[wooden epoch]

How much outlier ppc boss have you done?
It gives total of 1500+ free skulls

[sinful rivet]

i do many many long ults and eventually end up with like, 14 orbs
then i do a short ult and then go back to long ults

[stuck rover]

Havent done any. I just fought whatever boss there were for that cycle. Struggled.

[gentle hawk]

outlier on the bottom one, if u do the main one ofc u will struggle

[formal ridge]

1.5 mil on uppc is same rewards as advanced no?

[wooden epoch]

Thats why u struggles
U miss out on free SS of 3 units
Go there again and then focus on outlier ppc section first

[stuck rover]

Will do

[wooden epoch]

Still more bc
And learning more about the game
Cant learn anything in adv ppc

I've tried ult ppc with few SS0 with 5* wp even, it works minimum for 1.55m
Its basically free
But need 3 SS0 team, any element
We bruteforce in ppc, no penalty

[formal ridge]

Yeah that's what I was trying to say. If you can get max rewards in advanced, you should be able to get 1.5 mil in ult ppc

[wooden epoch]

Short ult eats 12 orbs almost instant
Makes sense

[formal ridge]

And even if you don't get max rewards in uppc, you still get a lot of skulls from achievements as a new player

[strong tundra]

when are codes given in pgr and what's their duration? like how long they work b4 expiring?

[wooden epoch]

In reality, not always
He struggles, even tho he can get all rewards in adv ppc

[wooden epoch]

Very rare unlike wuwa. Its really once in a bluemoon
Generally 3 weeks

Even then, it gives like 150 bc

[gentle hawk]

if u see pgr do livestream is when u get the codes, and livestream only happen on anni and half anni, so twice a year

[floral hill]

can SSS Wata be used as Dark Tank?

[gentle hawk]

cope yeah

[wooden epoch]

As off element tank yes
No elemental shred tho

[gentle hawk]

still usable with dv bath

[floral hill]

so not as effective as Daren?

[wooden epoch]

In case ppl misunderstood
The benefit comes from the 3sec swap cooldown reduction, compared to daren
Not from the elemental shred

[wooden epoch]

Generally less hassle
In mobs zone, can be more effective than Daren
Cuz u only swap between the 2 main dps

[pastel crater]

If there's a livestream

[small storm]

Guys what's livs resonance skills, I just pulled her sig

[gentle hawk]

atk and core

[wooden epoch]

And Daren still 15sec cooldown, with wata its 12sec, adding one extra dps entry to warzone

[small storm]

Weapon

[gentle hawk]

ga

[wooden epoch]

Does Liv SS0 still need dlt tho?

[floral hill]

possible to 1 rotate and then swap back?

[wooden epoch]

If not then just save, dont put wp reso on Liv unless u rich

[small storm]

Glorious afterglow?

[gentle hawk]

dunno seems needed, seems not

[pastel crater]

Depends on the rot, like if doing yomm rot needs dlt

[small storm]

I am😎

[gentle hawk]

ye

[wooden epoch]

What?
In dark u swap between Lilith Bianca only if bringing wata
Thats the main benefit

[wooden epoch]

~~ Paking whel ~~
Yea then GA
Glorious afterglow

[pastel crater]

whel

[small storm]

I never said realistically rich, just in mats😔😔

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

Reference
SSS Wata is the f2p options for SSS Nana
https://youtu.be/vj9H5pTyJbQ?si=k6ilAW9gRLwq_NMd

Clear benefit is if on mobs

Non mobs or ppc, ishmael dark tank better

[weak solar]

Finally got the 590k+, it actually took all this time since I was asking about it earlier until now

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

Nice work, its an improvement

~~ now get 595k ~~

[pastel crater]

[weak solar]

I've tried every single possible thing, I can't improve this any more

[wooden epoch]

My test btw
Same score but SS3 Lilith #📨・general-help message

[weak solar]

I got the same score too

You played the first two diffs a bit better

[wooden epoch]

Yea which means you can get more
Whats ur Lilith rotation btw?

[weak solar]

I can't really remember exactly since it depends on the health left

[pastel crater]

Unga bonga

[wooden epoch]

Mine is SS3, yours is SSS
This is the dmg difference on just the 1st ult
Left is SS3, right is SSS

[wooden epoch]

For Hell, Bianca 1x ult long rot + prep, then Lilith
2x 3blue, dodge, blue, ult1, yryyr, ult2
2x 3blue, ult1, yryr, ult2
2x3 blue, ult1, yryyr, ult2
Swap Bianca again

[weak solar]

Dodge?!

Is it an animation cancel to save time?

[wooden epoch]

Yes

Only possible with cottie

[weak solar]

I got 4 cottie

[wooden epoch]

Yes. Try blue blue dodge blue
Only on the 1st rot, to skip her backflip animation

[weak solar]

I really don't wanna reset my current score though..

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

No need to reset

Its unlimited attempts, just try enter again

If worse just dont save, if better then save

[weak solar]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

[wooden epoch]

Also Lilith yyry slightly higher dmg but its 0.5 sec slower

[strong tundra]

are there any active ones rn then?

[wooden epoch]

Nope, already expired 2 weeks ago

[strong tundra]

[pastel crater]

Need to wait to new livestream for new code-

[wooden epoch]

@weak solar another note is, make sure Lilith's 2nd ult2 is still inside the amp buff (10 sec). Just look for the blue triangle icon buffs under ur health bar

[weak solar]

What triggers the amp?

[wooden epoch]

10 sec after swapping

Gives 20% atk and 20% dark buff

[weak solar]

I just did your rot, it works but it didn't score higher, I think I failed the dodge cancel

[pastel crater]

Just dont bald that, ur using ss 21 right?

[weak solar]

Nah, I got Parhelion SS now

[pastel crater]

[weak solar]

Okay, I just got the same exact score again lol

[bitter summit]

🐳

[weak solar]

funny how the previous record was with my own rotation that was quite a bit different

but the score is the exact same

[pastel crater]

What ish build?

[weak solar]

with Einstein harm

[pastel crater]

Oh you should get higher than randal

[weak solar]

But I'm doing the rotation

It's not like I'm slow at doing it either

[pastel crater]

His ish is sigless-

[wooden epoch]

[wooden epoch]

Maybe its clearer here
Also this is even higher score with lower invest Lilith than yours
https://youtu.be/cWVnV9VjRko?si=1QUXPzmLwPcYPgAn

~~ forget his knight 1st variation, unless u dalaohaxx ~~
Just use the 2nd knight diff

Theres input notation pinned on the comments

[weak solar]

Dalao what now?

[pastel crater]

How to dalaohax

[wooden epoch]

~~ be windbell ~~

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

Just watch the vid anyway

595k-600k can aim

[weak solar]

I think I can replicate that, I'm pretty good with inputs

[cerulean egret]

So what's your full team specifications now

[wooden epoch]

Oh great, aim 600k then

[cerulean egret]

I could replicate it

As long as you have completed the border pact and sequence Pact buffs

[pastel crater]

[weak solar]

I'm looking at the video and it suggests Spear on Lilith for Hell?

[cerulean egret]

What spear?

[cerulean egret]

Like weapon resonance?

[pastel crater]

Iron spear

[weak solar]

Glorious Spear, I'm guessing?

[cerulean egret]

I think so
Do you have r1 ish to actually copy that tho

[weak solar]

What's R1

[cerulean egret]

Domain Deconstruction on ish weapon in the video

[weak solar]

Oh, the weapon USB? Should I use one on her?

They're kinda rare to come by

[cerulean egret]

Can't say, there might be other more important Chara you can use it on

[cerulean egret]

Exactly

[weak solar]

I don't even have it unlocked for Crep either

[cerulean egret]

Yeah you won't be able to copy that video then

[shut basin]

Is Domain worth it for Wata?

[pastel crater]

[cerulean egret]

Would lack in damage

[pastel crater]

Expansion

[weak solar]

I could still take a few techniques from the vid rq

[shut basin]

How about i expand your domain instead

[pastel crater]

[gentle hawk]

She kinda unneeded below sss for dark, for raydiance seems like she still need dlt

[strong tundra]

for 3rd team, what buff?

[pastel crater]

Peak teams

[strong tundra]

sarcasm or legit?

[pastel crater]

[shut basin]

Vro just use all that battery

oh right

[strong tundra]

it says not to tho, should I use all 1500?

[shut basin]

You don't have auto clear???

[strong tundra]

i did for earlier stages, not for this tho

[gentle hawk]

Autoclear when u reach certain threshold

[pastel crater]

Is this 2nd to the last in norman?

[strong tundra]

i think wait

6 stages in norman, I am in 4th one

[shut basin]

Cloud have 600 battery iirc

[strong tundra]

Bollie mine

[shut basin]

he would've lose the extra reward iirc

[pastel crater]

Just clear with them ig but when using in last 2, use a proper team

[wooden epoch]

Yeah cant exact copy
I was focused on refering to the blue blue dodge blue movement in clearer video
Its an important part of Lilith, cuz it cuts time 1 sec faster and it will refund the orbs again anyway

[pastel crater]

Buffs dont matter, just pick the any

[strong tundra]

oof, but tell me the buff already... Oh okay

[wooden epoch]

Buff matters alot tbh

If you know how to use it
Wrong buff would kill u instead

[pastel crater]

Well yeh

[wooden epoch]

They do be bollieing you

[pastel crater]

But his early anyway, so any is fine for now

He should fix his team first tbh

[wooden epoch]

Btw Rip buff, and pick most left is OP iirc

[wooden epoch]

I think his is Bonca Ish Lilith 223 reso 001

[pastel crater]

Is there a sheet for norman buff or something, what's good or not

[wooden epoch]

Dunno, too easy nowadays anyway

Also Rip is new buff added recently

[strong tundra]

unless a noob like me

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

Try Rip then leftmost
Its making ur solo dps can stay longer before swapping

[cerulean egret]

Is your team like:

SS0 rank Crepuscule, signature weapon, no Resonance and A rank cub

SSS rank Lilith with signature weapon and 1 resonance and S rank Billie cub

S rank Parhelion with signature weapon and Lingya cub I assume?

[pastel crater]

Can u send ur huaxu so we can properly provide a proper team-

[cerulean egret]

What did u get for now?

For time

[weak solar]

87480, 171076, 332450, 591006 total

[cerulean egret]

Trippy

But it'll try a bit

I'll let you know soon enough with the results

[wooden epoch]

595k possible tbh, Lilith SSS is crazy dmg

[teal frigate]

yo should i just go all in and get SS3 nanaknight?

[weak solar]

You don't have to, but I appreciate it, thanks

[gentle hawk]

If u want to bury ur ss liv, go on

[teal frigate]

i mean my liv is already SS, oh wait nvm i get it

[cerulean egret]

I've been bored and was doomscrolling

Technically this is more productive

[wooden epoch]

Dont pick gravity, dont pick turbulence
You may die easier unknowingly

[gentle hawk]

That's why i said bury ur liv

[shut basin]

Bury?

[teal frigate]

burrryy ur livvvv deep withinnnnn~~~ sorry

[pastel crater]

I'll bury u

[wooden epoch]

SS3 Nana is ok, Liv SS0 still outdmg her
Only solo SSS Nana replace Liv right now
But when new light amp comes, Liv swap might be better
"might" be

[shut basin]

Inside me?

[strong tundra]

so, Rip tab most left buff? ty

[wooden epoch]

Just SS3 Liv instead fr

[pastel crater]

True

[teal frigate]

nah nah im not gonna get fomo baited 💀

[shut basin]

It's the same price as normal banner

15k tix

[pastel crater]

Her ss3 is really good tho

[wooden epoch]

[wooden epoch]

Just save for SSSSS+ new Alpha fr

[teal frigate]

nah nah im SSS-ing teddy

[pastel crater]

If only im not pulling in anni, I'll ss3 liv

[teal frigate]

what are you pulling on anni?

[floral hill]

got it

[pastel crater]

Vera and ish

[teal frigate]

oof

[pastel crater]

30k poof

[teal frigate]

yep, extra 15k for the weapons

[shut basin]

Whel

Why stop at ss3 when you can ss6

[magic jolt]

Hi. I'm kinda new to this game. This is my second gacha game that I played.

Is it okay to ask a few questions?

[strong tundra]

@wooden epoch it worked ty

[teal frigate]

go ahead

[pastel crater]

Now, fix ur team

[strong tundra]

might stop doing this for now

[pastel crater]

Reset tomorrow-

[strange sparrow]

how can i waste 7 bc, this is getting very anoying

[pastel crater]

Or did u already finish it

[magic jolt]

You see, I recently got 2 free s rank characters. Should I proceed using them instead of the beginner ones? Also, how hard the progression of this game?

[shut basin]

Make it 2500

[strong tundra]

I got 5th and 6th stage left

[strange sparrow]

?

[cerulean egret]

@wooden epoch looks the same now right?

[pastel crater]

Its resetting tomorrow iirc
Need to finish it

[strong tundra]

yeah it is

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

Nice
2 useless reso, its perfect

[teal frigate]

yes, but dont waste too much resources on them, pull Liv Limpidity for now, she's better than Alpha

[ember kettle]

[strong tundra]

my best characters are tho
Selena >= Bianca > Liv > Lilith... and it requires 4 teams, so they'll be spreaded out

[wooden epoch]

If you gonna pull the new Liv, make sure you get the sig wp also, cuz its all limited time
20 days left btw

[magic jolt]

So my team comp should be Crimson Weave, N0. 21, and Liv?

[wooden epoch]

Nope
Liv completely replace CW

[teal frigate]

just use quick comp, then go ham lmao

[strong tundra]

quick comp?

[wooden epoch]

Cannot bro

[teal frigate]

Liv, 21, and ssomething else

[wooden epoch]

Dont give impractical ~~ useless~~ advice

[shut basin]

Nanaknight solo lel

[ember kettle]

show huaxu so we can pick from that

[teal frigate]

as long this is achieved, it's all good honestly

[cerulean egret]

I got 337800 on hell first try

[ember kettle]

no

[wooden epoch]

He cant, he newbie
Shuddup whel

[shut basin]

I'm pretty sure he still doesn't know what that is

[cerulean egret]

That's 596k

[teal frigate]

i aint whale 💀

[pastel crater]

Selena
Liv
Bonca and lilith
Borrow nanami or wanshi

[wooden epoch]

[ember kettle]

oh @magic jolt what's your ID and server?

[magic jolt]

I don't think I have enough time to catch up

[cerulean egret]

I'll try More stuff

[weak solar]

Damn, that's wild.. Same invest, what rot?

[cerulean egret]

Can get better

[magic jolt]

21610955
SEA

[cerulean egret]

Same as yours

[weak solar]

If you can significantly improve it, I might have to return fr

[ember kettle]

give them rot ref, from Espada right?

[weak solar]

Does team pos matter?

[cerulean egret]

Those unusual resonance are placeholder that does nothing

[cerulean egret]

Nope

[teal frigate]

hmm if you think you dont have enough, then skip, keep CW, 21, and something else. Then wait for teddy next patch

[tough mulch]

Asking for a little help here, does anyone have trouble getting the cogs in this area? (This is the legend level for the sprinting challenge)

[strong tundra]

k

[shut basin]

Does Ishmael memo change if she is ampli or a tank?

[weak solar]

I just have skill issue then

[magic jolt]

She's a dps? okay

[pastel crater]

Just clear it faster, i tried myself getting almost all (cant get all), even if getting almost all cogs, the score is lower.

[teal frigate]

CW is dps altho very old, but still usable

[ember kettle]

ah empty
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/21610955/characters

can just use Liv Feral CW then?

[shut basin]

That stage is a scam lel, the most i got is 2199 or something else

[cerulean egret]

It's alright, it could be just my 3 yo all playing this game optimize things automatically

[pastel crater]

Skin tissue sir

[magic jolt]

I'm currently lvl 13. What level should I put CW for the mean time?

[cerulean egret]

You don't be this good in an instant

[shut basin]

Shuddup whel

[wooden epoch]

Yeah, btw theres free pulls thats expiring when patch ends
Use that to try maybe get a miracle happened getting her wp in 1 pull

If cannot, then just forget the limited Liv

[gentle hawk]

Quite likely, sothoth not really work for amp unless u just use amp ish on nihil, otherwise just go with 4dv 4guin/ 2guin 2 eins

[teal frigate]

any level is fine for now

[glacial fox]

just returned to the game after dmc collab xd (both dante and vergil hav sig weaps and cubs) who do I pull for on any of the banners?

[shut basin]

181346A <-- use code in homeward bound for free pulls if you're a returning player^^

[teal frigate]

oof bricked

[shut basin]

fast hand lel

[wooden epoch]

Maxed u can get
Also get to acct lv40 fast, consume your serum. Many events with free stuff will open then

[magic jolt]

Got it!

How about her skills what I should I prioritize?

[ember kettle]

Liv and her sig

[teal frigate]

literally the only option and the blue selector

[pastel crater]

Use a/s(old units) rank with them btw (with memo)
Like with sele, alisa, and rosetta or b rank nana.
No21:xxi with bonca and lilith
Liv with lux and chrome
Wanshi with alya, any ice healer

[ember kettle]

can prio ult and core passive for everyone if you don't have much mats

[wooden epoch]

Here #📨・general-help message
Anyway if you get that wp from free pulls, then get Liv the unit, limited time, 20 days left

How many bc/yellow u have left?

[strong tundra]

didn't get anything what u said lol

[glacial fox]

I got like a 10 pull on bc and no yellows rn, i still haven't finished story so maybe more pulls there I only did upto chapter 11/12

[pastel crater]

I mean use a team like this:
Selena, alisa, b rank nana/rosetta
Bonca, Lilith, no21 xxi
Liv, lux, chrome
Borrow Wanshi, alya, any ice healer unit
That's 4 team

[gentle hawk]

Ice only have 2 healer tbh

3 include next patch

[pastel crater]

Yeh, i forgot the other one so i just said that

[wooden epoch]

Yeh anyway next patch is free S rank Teddy, all her kits are free
This current new Liv is limited, so if cannot get her wp this patch, just skip her altogether

[gentle hawk]

Ice really abandoned since released

[wooden epoch]

Fire more abandoned

[gentle hawk]

Wanshi hypnos

[wooden epoch]

Sophia healer

[gentle hawk]

Fire abandoned then get more love now

Ice is always like that

[wooden epoch]

Yeah fire all premium team
Fast powercrepes rotation too
Always on fire

[magic jolt]

Is PGR f2p friendly? Is the progression bearable?

[gentle hawk]

And fire never has free unit since released

[wooden epoch]

Yes, if you are patient

[glacial fox]

im currently 33 pity on limited and 0 on weapon, winnable?

[gentle hawk]

It's crazy if u think about it

[wooden epoch]

If you want dopamine overload, dunno then

[pastel crater]

[gentle hawk]

Wata on road now, already 2 years old

[wooden epoch]

Dunno, keep farming
At least the unit banner pity carry over even if you failed to get Liv
So the sig wp is the main problem
If u get her sig wp then get Liv, can farm

[magic jolt]

Is the euipment similar to other gacha where it is heavily RNG?

[gentle hawk]

No

[magic jolt]

I mean the euipment stats

[glacial fox]

Ah, aight, so try to get sig > if not skip Liv
if get > get Liv?

[ashen quail]

Guys is it okay to buy the cub selector or just buy the yellow tix one

[wooden epoch]

No RNG
Even unit debut here is 100% on rate, no off rate
15k bc guarantees u one unit
Also next patch is free meta S rank, imagine that

[gentle hawk]

Ye not that much, for top slot u will always go for any kind of atk unless that chara need specific orb colour/ ba, for bottom slot either ult/core/class only

[wooden epoch]

Is this whaling question?

[magic jolt]

I'm excited, so I just have to prioritize their sig

[ashen quail]

Nah nah just a newb

[wooden epoch]

For this case only, bcs shes limited including her kit
For usual S rank units, sig can get them way later
Cuz wp banner usually permanent

[wooden epoch]

Which one u mean then? Give screenshot/pic

[ashen quail]

Oh uhh the 68rc one

[shut basin]

whel question

[wooden epoch]

🐳

[bitter summit]

Imo not really, better bp

30rc for 2500 cub tix
Gamba on 10 pulls

[wooden epoch]

So many whel are born here 🐳

[ashen quail]

Already bought the 2 bp for this ver

[shut basin]

Fate's fault lel

[bitter summit]

[magic jolt]

Playing this game for the first time feels like piloting a plane 😅

[pastel crater]

Me a humble f2p

[strong tundra]

you've piloted a plane b4?

[shut basin]

He piloted acc

definitely whel

[wooden epoch]

So many whel, and pilot too omg

[pastel crater]

[magic jolt]

I should've worded it better. english is not my main language 😅

[shut basin]

Top ten biggest lies in the world:

[wooden epoch]

~~ ban the pilot ~~

[strong tundra]

I was kidding

[pastel crater]

True not lies

[shut basin]

Vera doesn't like liars, she would be disappointed on fake Vera dogs like you

[wooden epoch]

I think theres a whaling guide sheets
Anyone here can link it maybe?

[pastel crater]

[shut basin]

Ask Fate ig

or Bombs

[pastel crater]

Me dont know

[pastel crater]

Bombs dont look at sheet since he buy all pack anyway

[prisma bolt]

Should I use alphas sig as reso food

[worldly zealot]

Smh these new gens dont know kirai's whaling sheet

[pastel crater]

[worldly zealot]

[pastel crater]

Yes

[wooden epoch]

Hi helper, help this whale then @ashen quail

[worldly zealot]

from:@ fysion has:link

Please learn how to search things on discord, thanks

[pastel crater]

[worldly zealot]

[prisma bolt]

Wait if I scrap a weapon that has red sticks on it can I get the red sticks back

[pastel crater]

Sadly no

[red wing]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-is-dead-spy-engineer-correct-right-gif-26313261

(can't)

[wooden epoch]

Youre the helper bro

You go work, helping. Smh

[worldly zealot]

Im helping by teaching men how to fish

[flint flare]

Can’t I just be a fish

[formal ridge]

We need a fishing game mode in this game

[gentle hawk]

be a feesh

[flint flare]

[pastel crater]

Not another

I cant unhear pheeb

[formal ridge]

0.1 chance to catch a lamia

[strong tundra]

[strong tundra]

lol

[gentle hawk]

vera catch rate gotta be 100%

[pastel crater]

[bitter summit]

1. Top up 600rc
2. Convert to bc directly
3. Use on standard banner

[pastel crater]

[strong tundra]

a beauty

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1368012142980370474.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PheebHeadNod

[wooden epoch]

You mean this? #📨・meta-help message

[pastel crater]

[strong tundra]

are you a big whel like this guy? @pastel crater

[pastel crater]

[cerulean egret]

I managed to get 600k total score

It wasn't easy though, something weird happened

But 599k score is easy than that

I'll edit my run little bit

[wooden epoch]

Birth of a new dalao

poor Low invest lao

[weak solar]

Pro, can't wait for the vid

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1178550658568302684.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=HyperDalaoBow

[cerulean egret]

No lao

I'm PPC noob

wz addict tho

[raw sierra]

yoshilao

Btw @pastel crater what am I getting pinged for

[pastel crater]

Who ping

[pliant beacon]

u think fabio is a helper

[raw sierra]

You didn't?

[brazen talon]

fraudbiojo

[raw sierra]

I just woke up, can't think straight smh

[pastel crater]

Shh

[strong tundra]

oh mb

[raw sierra]

You're not sneaky bruh

[strong tundra]

[pastel crater]

It was about whel sheet-

[raw sierra]

You mean this
Pack Sheet PGR

[pastel crater]

[pastel crater]

@ashen quail

[strong tundra]

this boss has a 2nd phase, it has 100x hp bars and I need to defeat it in 30 secs... how?

[pastel crater]

Unga bonga

[opal temple]

what mode is this

[raw sierra]

Have better characters

[mossy apex]

Pain cage or Norman?

[pastel crater]

Huh

[opal temple]

it's story chapter

[mossy apex]

Oh

[cerulean egret]

The first video is the full run for 599k score, I didn't really do anything crazy like canceling attack, the only thing you probably should be aware of is that the blue orb cancel for instat ult on Lilith and you just need to be faster and connect the attacks

Now about the weird run for the 600k score, you should be aware and look at the Bathlon set debuff at the enemies hp, if your Crepes ult managed to reset the debuff for some reason, you should be able to get 600k score. I still don't know how it actually work, but with some weird timing it will reset itself for some reason. Just keep spamming crepes ult as soon as possible and see if you can replicate it.

So either you get the 599k score run quite easily, or you can try your luck and keep restarting on hell difficulty until it gets the Bathlon bug. It can also happen in chaos btw, but not really worth the attempt because it's pretty random.

Good luck

[stone plume]

30 seconds? did u take too long on the first phase? practice more with scire's moveset in her tutorial stages

the move where she launches into the air and spins downward multiple times help crush that boss

[pastel crater]

New pasta drop

[cerulean egret]

You do need to ult with ish first so her debuff would still get applied after crepes ult

Just use a 3p and you'll be able to cast her ult very quickly

Both videos are 270mb total if that's any of your concern

[hoary shadow]

Is it better to play pgr on mobile or laptop/pc?

[gentle hawk]

Depends on u

[tropic comet]

Hi all, for some reason there's this water texture bug on water stages, does anyone knows what caused it? I'm playing it on PC, and just finished reinstalling (which didn't fix it)

[gentle hawk]

I play wz and ppc mobile while read the story on laptop

I grew up with phone so i more comfortable with that

[tropic comet]

I'm referring to the lines of different shades on the surface if it helps

[raw sierra]

I still don't understand, what bathlon bug
Mine triggered consistently
except the runs when bianca ult before bathlon ends

[gentle hawk]

Dunno man

[cerulean egret]

Look at both of the hell run

The first one doesn't have Bathlon debuff icon when Lilith swapped in

The second one does

That's a massive dmg diff because Lilith rotation gets 15% dark shred on the boss compared to no Bathlon debuff

Bathlon has 10s cooldown after first activation (so basically 2s cooldown after the effects run out accounting time stop), which basically a downtime

This bug basically makes it has 0 downtime, because somehow it was reset within the cd

[brittle inlet]

Still wondering how you even use liv limpiskibidi to it's extent, cause I can see that my SS CW doing more lighting damage than itself

[pastel crater]

[strong tundra]

yeah done ty

[pastel crater]

https://youtu.be/ccudIXxfSDs?si=YnGbsAwz8yLdVHVJ

[brittle inlet]

Thanks (Hassan.png)
Got another for effects? Cause I know for matter in fact from my playing, I ain't doing no damage from glaciation, plasma etc

Yes, I did play the effect tutorial.

[pastel crater]

SS0 invest?

[slow hawk]

Hello! New player here, I noticed that recent constructs get their SFX coatings release alongside their debut. Does that mean the new Kamui frame would also get one?

Also, do past SFX coatings ever get discounted again? Like back to being discounted to 168 rainbow cards.

Thank you very much in advance

[brittle inlet]

Yes, definitely SS.

[pastel crater]

For glacio:
https://youtu.be/QFGallE5LS8?si=1xYug4FLt7MTy3Dk
For Ion:
https://youtu.be/Skj66OlByOk?si=w0Ablsz97juSiJWC
For PPC, just watch windbell or moonglaive videos

[pastel crater]

@silver heath u buy coating so u know this-

[silver heath]

[silver heath]

We don't know anything about it so it can't be confirmed, but most likely yes.

And yes skins do have reruns at a discounted price

[slow hawk]

Ohh got it!! Thank you so much for the info 🩷
That’s really good to know — I’ll keep an eye out for the reruns then!

[silver heath]

Which rerun are you looking forward to?

[pastel crater]

Dm-

[weak solar]

My second Chaos run attempt, I managed to upscore you by adjusting the rotation a tiny bit
I improved my Knight run too, thanks to your video

[slow hawk]

I actually want to buy Wanshi’s new SFX coating, but I’m not sure if I should since I already spent my money on another game. So I’m thinking maybe I’ll just buy Wanshi’s coating later when they got discounted again

[cerulean egret]

Look at you going

Maybe you won't need the Bathlon bug then, easy 600k

[silver heath]

Understandable it is a 30$ skin, in a spam of a year it might rerun again

[weak solar]

Even more, since I forgot to do the animation cancel earlier

[cerulean egret]

That's very nice

Good job

[slow hawk]

Thanks for the reassurance and your helpp!

[cerulean egret]

Did you manage to find a way to kill the boss with faster Lilith ult or something?

[weak solar]

Yup, faster Lilith ult

[cerulean egret]

I keep thinking my Lilith would be lacking dmg if I tried faster rotation, so I didn't even try it once

[strong tundra]

cya bois

[cerulean egret]

Bai

I'll take off soon as well and have dinner before going to bed

[weak solar]

Alright, thanks again for the help Enjoy your food

[red wing]

Not alongside release but rather shortly after

Already answered

Sorry

[cyan ginkgo]

@silver heath @pastel crater
Finally done norman stage 5 without sup this time

Did they make norman difficult again?
I see those 2 blue shadow warriors now on every sub stage 5

[brazen talon]

norman is super easy now with these new char

[brazen ember]

is the build bot/channel gone? cant see it
im looking what weapon resonance to give for pianissimo 1-3

[raw sierra]

Yeah it's gone now, someone made new bot but the staff hasn't added it to pgro yet

[wooden epoch]

Just R1 is enough, put dlt
Can R2 then put GA for warzone and matrix for ppc

[brazen ember]

great, just when i really need something

[wooden epoch]

Forgot if it really works or not in ppc, but I think it does

[raw sierra]

Well you can always ask here for question

[wooden epoch]

The new bot is named Teddy
Hopefully its fully functional when Teddy patch release

[brazen ember]

thoughts on recycling old weapons/gen 1 power creped units for shards to buy future sigs?

[raw sierra]

Great, teddy down again

[wooden epoch]

Not worth
Use it as wp reso mats instead

[raw sierra]

I'd say don't, just keep them to reso another weap

[brazen ember]

i still have 10pcs of those USB drives for weapon resonance, i mostly go 1 reso for my DPS
still thinking of getting R3 selena cuz wife

[raw sierra]

big whel

[brazen ember]

i still havent used the free weapon selector that i received

[wooden epoch]

Still not worth imo
Since u whel, u better roll the wp gacha instead

[raw sierra]

Well maybe you can scrap them if you ever missed the limited weapon from phylotree ig

[brazen ember]

already stopped spending
also it is from the (forgot what mode) i saved up alot and crafted

[raw sierra]

But not really recommend

[wooden epoch]

But in the end, up to you
Liv's wp like right now can indeed be bought by scrapping 3 wp for 1x of her wp
But yea 3:1 ratio is what makes it not worth
Its only for desperate f2p thats been playing since release

3 free reso for just 1 new wp isnt worth it

[brazen ember]

already have liv sig and cub
but yeah the 3:1 ratio might not be a good trade

might save the old sigs just in case i lose my weapon gachas on characters i like

thanks

[wooden epoch]

Generally speaking for minimum needs, R1 both attackers and tank
R2 amps, thats it

[raw sierra]

Some tanks maybe r2 cuz they need dlt but other than that you don't need to reso more

[wooden epoch]

~~ crippled ass tank ~~ like D*ren and Han

[raw sierra]

I'm still regretting r2ing wanshi

[brazen ember]

so R3 is just for whoever is the fav unit

[raw sierra]

Yeah
Or if you whel ig

[wooden epoch]

Honestly yeah
Some amp might still benefit from R3 if they main dps cuz need dlt
But once they dont need dlt again, its just a useless empty slots

Which is why I said minimum needs, as in to have them function for doing their basic job

[brazen ember]

i already stopped investing on wanshi and ice team, already spent so much on him
and ice team is probably gonna be power crept soon

[raw sierra]

Maybe exception is Ishmael, since she can run both tank and amp reso

[pastel crater]

Why stop at r2 smh

[wooden epoch]

Next patch new Teddy is ice amp
And shes free

[raw sierra]

I'm poor
Fund me

[brazen ember]

damn, i hate running nihil team

[wooden epoch]

Since free so easier SSS
So can kick out SS0 Qu from team

[pastel crater]

Mine is sigles-

R3 5* can do

[raw sierra]

I know your real acc is stacked
S+ r3 everything

[brazen ember]

wait wth?
qu was power crept'd? or high rank is still safe?

[pastel crater]

Nah, s+ not even safe

[raw sierra]

Depends
Just wait for release cuz we don't really know much rn

[wooden epoch]

Dunno, always wait for live patch
Now still beta
But Qu is old tbh, shes gen2
Teddy Wanshi gen3

[brazen ember]

i went for extra qu dupes on the selector to get to SSS just for her to get kicked out next patch
im stilll using ayla kaleid

[wooden epoch]

Just pulling 1x Teddy from gacha already puts her to SS6, just need 40 shards voucher (need 2 weeks) for her SSS
Maybe u can still run Qu Wanshi Teddy
But definitely Qu 1x ult or smthing to make room for Teddy

[raw sierra]

Maybe can use her still if sss
But probably dv holder

[pastel crater]

Still better on using qu with teddy ig

[raw sierra]

2 months you mean

[brazen ember]

demoted from ice queen to DV holder

[pastel crater]

It will take a while before you 3s teddy anyway and if ur planning 3s teddy

[wooden epoch]

Patch release towards end of month anyway
So its in 2 weeks in practice

[brazen ember]

i dont even know how much vouchers will i need to get her to SSS

[raw sierra]

Oh Qu Shukra, you disgrace—
Trash to fight, and trash to play.
A boss so cheap, a unit so weak,
The game itself begs you to leave.

You steal my orbs, you kill my flow,
A bugged-out hack—who coded this hoe?
"Useless without SS and sig,"
A paywall joke, a scam so big.

I pulled for you - my darkest hour,
Like chasing salt instead of flour.
Witness her, be weak compared to Wanshi too.
Now watch her fail at all she do.

The Queen of Kowloong, lo and behold, but all I see,
is a stupid baboon.
They hyped you up, then dropped this mess,
A walking scam in an S-rank dress.

No damage without your signature,
even the kids think that you are immature.
6 months into the game ,
got smoked by your tank in fame.

Oh "Qu Shitra", you fail both sides,
As boss, as a character—you disappoint.
So vault your ass, take your delete,
And pray Kuro never makes repeats!

You’re not a waifu—you're a joke,
A lazy dev's half-finished stroke.
Delete your banner, burn the code,
You’re dead weight on a dying mode.

Got shot by some random fodder,
spatial awareness like no other.
the only good thing you have is your legs, but even then,
that's a half-assed defense.

[wooden epoch]

22 Dec right? Adds 2 weeks (14 days) thats January alrready

[pastel crater]

lets say 40s fight give you 8 trigger attempts at most
with 80% chance you most likely ends up with trigger it 7 out of 8 times, or lets just say you always trigger it. but its capped at 4 times so your max boost is 300%
with 40% prob you likely ends up triggering it 3 times (plus double so 6 times)0., and its stackable. the best scenario is you can have 8 stack or 600% boost.

based on my recording its better to get 2x40% because it luck in your favor you'll get burst damage early. BUT kuso really suck at this, i expect each stack to last permanently, turns out it last for 5s, so idk why they introduce stack mechanism if the previous stack will be gone by the time we have chance to trigger it again in 5s.
Tl:dr -> kuso suck, dont take meth seriously to this gamba game, choose 2x40%, pull on fate banner

[raw sierra]

Oh we're copy pastaing now

[wooden epoch]

40 x 800 = 32k voucher if pulling 1x Teddy (15k bc)
If not pulling at all then 90 x 800 = 72k voucher, but across a 5 months span

[raw sierra]

This game was and still is super fun and engaging with the captivating story and insanely fun and fast combat. But this game is no longer supportive and accessible like it once was, and it shows.

Before, at maximum, units needed only SS to be functional, of which is obtainable for free. However, now, you are required to have signature weapon with at least one resonance + harmonization, maxed out SS cub, and in a lot of cases, SS3 or even SSS as well for certain voucherable units. The future introduction of affixes into the game only further exacerbates this problem , as well as the devs increasingly creating innate nerfs to new characters' core passives units in order to require SS3 more and more often, at a pace that most people cant keep up with.

This however, isn't even the end of it, because now with synchronization, your money, if you choose to spend, is now only a fraction of what it used to be. Synchronization, motivated by shallow reasoning from the “community,” (which is really a convenient excuse for them to find a way to save money for licensing costs for collabs,) aims to get global servers and other regions on the same schedule as China. However in doing so, they shortened patches to do this without proper compensation for spenders. They, now thanks to the new system, do not have discounted packs, battlepasses, or monthlies, nor do they get more for their cost; instead, they are solely given the option to buy multiple in bulk for the same previous unit price. Essentially, spenders, particular lower end ones with small budgets, now have to pay 2-3x as quickly to get THE SAME AMOUNT. UNBELIEVABLE! Where before, spending just Monthly A+BP was enough to sustain most people, everyone is left shafted, unless you are some millionaire heir with a trust fund.

Overall, this game has fallen very fall from its promise to be an accommodating, affordable gacha game in the past 1.5 years, and I hope they can come back to their senses before it's too late.

[pastel crater]

Dont

[wooden epoch]

No copypasta
@ mods

[brazen ember]

thank you for the math
yeah im safe, got enough vouchers

[pastel crater]

Fat whel

[raw sierra]

Don't have vouchers
Buy me bp

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1379749971925925888.gif?quality=lossless&name=febichupi&size=64

[wooden epoch]

Yeah I think its also generally ok for u to not pull Teddy at all
U already have Qu, so no rush in getting SSS Teddy so soon
Just take it slowly each month

[zealous smelt]

Scrolls up sees 3 walls of text what happened

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413137437613490206.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=biancabooty

Wanna see more
~~ i might get banned ~~

[zealous smelt]

Just don't

[raw sierra]

Whel can't get banned smh

[pastel crater]

no, like i said, it's not. this type of game design is very telling tho... i've suffered enough atrocious designs trying to "be entertained", and ending up feeling mauled instead. this just says very bad things about the designer. one can take a few instances of this type of frustration and then just gets tfo instead. im mad. i invested hours into finishing even with wata, now i can start over. wtf!!!!!

[shut basin]

I would rather cut my throat than having this disease

[raw sierra]

Not long enough

[shut basin]

What's the context on the messages above???

why is there so much text wall

[shut basin]

Hush

delete that

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[shut basin]

HEY

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773751924977696768/1437628894818598982/mirror.gif

[worldly zealot]

[pastel crater]

The loop

[worldly zealot]

Guys calm down

[brazen ember]

i prefer p̶u̶l̶a̶o̶ hanying

[shut basin]

DELETE IT

[mint echo]

As someone who wants to spend in game should I buy top-secret intel or encrypted intel or something else

[shut basin]

grr

[raw sierra]

This place is becoming more and more #💬・pgr-general

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413137437613490206.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=biancabooty

[mint echo]

Cuz I saw that it has this S char shard thing?

[shut basin]

Shutup whel

[raw sierra]

Hmm
Maybe refer to this

And judge for yourself

[shut basin]

Fate doesn't need such thing

he bought them all

[mint echo]

I do NOT understand this

[pastel crater]

[wooden epoch]

[raw sierra]

[brittle inlet]

Oh, paper is here

[brittle inlet]

Lmao so you all took from my screenshot

[wooden epoch]

$1 free Luna best
Then monthly best value (30 RC for 3300 BC)
Then cub BP
Then the other BP
Then dunno, am not whel 🐳

[shut basin]

Shuttup

[pastel crater]

[raw sierra]

Ask fate for more guidance on wheling

[shut basin]

Blackmel

[wispy drift]

Is it better to use Einstein for lucia instead of cottie? since it buffed other character

[shell matrix]

Is this bug?

[pastel crater]

Yeh

[raw sierra]

Portrait pgr

[shell matrix]

I love that

[mint echo]

Yipee

What do I need for resonance on Limpidity

[raw sierra]

She doesn't really need reso
Ig glorius if you want to r1 her

[raw sierra]

Ah yes, such a good scenery

[pastel crater]

Ah, grinding that 2.5k yellow huh tho never experience that bug

[bitter summit]

Whel phone

[ember kettle]

hax

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1379749971925925888.gif?quality=lossless&name=febichupi&size=64

[ember kettle]

[raw sierra]

Pixels

[ember kettle]

[obsidian summit]

Hello im sad

[timber sierra]

Got something

[raw sierra]

Random banner?

[bitter summit]

Standard target

[raw sierra]

[verbal haven]

[timber sierra]

Yeah from free spin

It's good I guess

[raw sierra]

I hate Babylonia

Why is it so unresponsive

Like I can put up with playing on 5 fps

But why tf most of the time I try to move my perspective it just refuses do it

[ember kettle]

[smoky fjord]

what are the paincage auto clear requirements ?
i have defeated these bosses before but i am unable to auto clear

[lime oriole]

you wont ever use auto clear

[proud jay]

autoclear is only possible for the lowest difficulty
but even then its really not recommended to do it, since it will always give you less rewards

[smoky fjord]

i see

[tranquil granite]

Is there a way other than research to get her weapon

[zealous smelt]

You can outright buy it with money

F2p wise no just pulling

Theres also scrapping 3 6* weapons , but not recommended

[raw sierra]

Ah yes, I love taking photos of myself

[tranquil granite]

unfortunately i can't do that cuz i am pulling for the new liv

10 left

[zealous smelt]

Weapon banner is permenant besides livs weapon you can just pull for nanamis weapon after/next patch

But yeah focus on liv/ her weapon first

[tranquil granite]

oh right i need to get liv weapon

[elder stratus]

what's the ss3 prio again?

deciding on who to use selector

[zealous smelt]

Nanami selena ish hanying no clue were liv places

[elder stratus]

hanying it is then

[zealous smelt]

Double check in meta help

[tranquil granite]

There will be a free 2500 tickets tomorrow right?

[zealous smelt]

Event cards yea

[tranquil granite]

So i am thinking about saving my black cards for liv weapon and use the free 2500 for liv herself because i am at 50 pity

[zealous smelt]

So start using black cards for weapon

Yup thats what you should do

[tranquil granite]

Ok thx

[mellow bane]

is this game not auto deleting the update package or what

[tranquil granite]

The other weapons aren't limited so i am just gonna worry about them later

[zealous smelt]

Yea

[mellow bane]

istg the last update made it almost 40 gigs

[zealous smelt]

No clue babylonia probably was a big increase alone idk

[mellow bane]

fcking useless feature fr i hope there's an option to not download that sht

[magic jolt]

hi guys, i just recently started today and really wanted to get the new char (the one with white hair and clothes) and was just wondering how much time i had left and if i could realistically get enough pulls in the amount of time left to get her

[mellow bane]

and they said they gonna expand it

[proud jay]

next character is on the 23rd. with your new-player funds, and if you dont slack off, its probably doable. but dont expect to get there just doing your dailys/weeklies and then closing the game

[zealous smelt]

20 days and you have enough time to get liv+ her weapon if you play often

[proud jay]

also you dont need to worry about saving or anything, cause the character on the 23rd is completely free

[zealous smelt]

The next unit is free so dont worry too much about conversing pulls

[magic jolt]

oo nice! also how does pity work in this games gacha? is it 80/90+ pity for a 5 star?

[zealous smelt]

Character is guranteed at 60 pulls no soft pity though

[magic jolt]

WHAT- so NO 50/50?? you have to be lying man

[zealous smelt]

Weapon is 80/20 at 30 pulls if you lose once next is guranteed

[proud jay]

5 stars are the "common" rewards here. like the ones you get every 10 pulls
6 stars (or as we call them, S-Ranks) are the rare ones.
pity is 60
no 5050

weapon banner has every weapon forever, (except certain Special units)
pity 30, WITH an 80-20 chance

[zealous smelt]

Rerun characters are at a 70/30 rate unless its anniversary which puts them at 100% rate

[magic jolt]

that is absolutely insane

[magic jolt]

holy this gacha is op

[zealous smelt]

Just by playing the game you can pretty much gurantee every new unit in this game as f2p just not weapons unless your lucky

[sinful rivet]

f2p friendly apparently
Very good compared to the other games

Except Phylotree Nexus Research Banner is very not f2p friendly

[zealous smelt]

Its f2p friendly but the pulls you got to work for dailies dont give anything really

[magic jolt]

wowwie OH YES i forgot to ask but is there exploration in this game? exploration is one of my fav things in these types of games

[zealous smelt]

Not an open world gacha

[magic jolt]

ah got it

[proud jay]

nnnnooope. its really just a combat game
theres a new mode, where you have sooomee exploration, but its very new, and not well implemennted at the moment

[zealous smelt]

Id watch gameplay before you commit see if its the game for you

[sinful rivet]

Are we just not going to talk about Babylonia

[magic jolt]

oh ye i forgot to check it out 😭 i will go do that rn, thanks a lot for the help guys!

[zealous smelt]

Its like a few hours of new exploration content but thats not what this game is about

[sinful rivet]

Fair enough

[zealous smelt]

If they keep updating it we shall see

[sinful rivet]

All ive done is get to the commandant dorm and go to sleep
And do the space leaps

[proud jay]

guaranteeing every character is quite easy here, if you play consistently.
but there is one caveat to it all.
some characters are extremely reliant on their signature weapon, and then getting that can require saving/farming.

and by "extremely", i mean like, more than 50% DPS increase

[sinful rivet]

Ivr gotten only 2 of the supply crates idk where to find them

[magic jolt]

what about the current new char? white haired one (sorry i dont know the names 😭 )

[sinful rivet]

Liv?

[magic jolt]

ye i think so

[red wing]

liv limpidity
livpidity
p limpity
she got many names

[magic jolt]

lol

[sinful rivet]

She is the Phylotree banner character
And is limited for now

[magic jolt]

is she dependant on her sig or is she fine with other weapons?

[sinful rivet]

Sig helps

[proud jay]

"Liv: Limpidity"
not the worst, but still quite impactful
increases the damage of both her ults by 50%, and smoothens out her rotation.

sadly, shes part of those "special weapons" where theyre not fully permanent, but only available when she is

[red wing]

yes if you buy a total of 328 RC and get this

then you can get her weapon for free without research

[zealous smelt]

I was thinking more along the lines of the 98 rc one

[magic jolt]

alright got it, i think i will just spend the extra time to get her weapon if it rlly is that nice of an increase. thank you all

[sinful rivet]

Is 68rc cub a scam?

[red wing]

oh right we have that

[proud jay]

-# if youre a new player, i can offer to mentor you. If you're in EU, I can also get you some nice bonuses

[zealous smelt]

68 rc is good value for a cub but like thats on you

[red wing]

no, in fact all of those selectors there are relatively cheap or fair price if not cheap

[proud jay]

listen i got a family to feed. need to advertise my services and allat

[magic jolt]

sadly i am not in EU but some tips would be really nice if you had any

[sinful rivet]

This Phylotree limited researches are treating me very well
2 copies liv within 60 pulls total
21 pity sig
3 copies of cub within 30 pulls

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/21-yatta-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-12502567287501134160

[red wing]

me when we both lose out on an opportunity

[tranquil granite]

Yeah i will stick with research

[red wing]

don't mind the banter Link
I suggest you provide huaxu

that way we can give you pointers on what you should be doing/going for

also if you can provide the amount of resources you have on hand
like black cards, simulation coins, yellow cards, etc

and if you still have the "Goal & something something" in the top left of lobby

[sinful rivet]

How so much sim currency

[red wing]

been playing for the past 1.5 years

[zealous smelt]

He hasnt played the game yet

[red wing]

and I also wasted a lot mind you
at one point I had 600k

[sinful rivet]

Im always below 50k
Sht luck on mem resos

[red wing]

@magic jolt is it true? you haven't even started?

[sinful rivet]

[ashen snow]

Wait do they not reset? I thought they reset after the timer thingy

[sinful rivet]

Nop

[red wing]

no they haven't been resetting since a while back when they made the mode permanent

[ashen snow]

Ah

[sinful rivet]

The timer is for the limited stuff and discounted memories in the sim shoo

[red wing]

the only thing they reset is the rewards you get for playing it

[ashen snow]

That would’ve been nice to know earlier 😭

[red wing]

and they change the limited shop like Bob said

[sinful rivet]

[red wing]

this is reset every new patch

[zealous smelt]

Actually he did say he started today citrom i just assumed he doesnt have any time since hes asking about open world exploration

[ashen snow]

Ohhh okok ty

[zealous smelt]

Either way his hauxu is probably empty

[sinful rivet]

Damn i want to play more pgr but theres nothing to do except mald wz and ppc
and skip story for bc

[frozen grail]

Any of these worth getting

[zealous smelt]

Do the story its good

[zealous smelt]

What does it go up to

[frozen grail]

If you aren't playing the story what is genuinely the point of playing the game?

[zealous smelt]

Combats fun

[frozen grail]

Sure but I don't think the combat alone carries the game yk

[zealous smelt]

Rigor but they all are outdated

[red wing]

it's the only thing carrying this game

[zealous smelt]

It does for alot of story skippers

[frozen grail]

WAIT YES THATS THE MECH LADY I SAW

[red wing]

the story is mid for a large portion and when it isn't people skip it

[frozen grail]

I could name like five other games that they could play instead

[red wing]

by all means

[zealous smelt]

And whos to say they havent played them

[misty nymph]

are there any 6* memory sets that just aren’t useful anymore and can be scrapped ?

[frozen grail]

I don't know how true that is, I genuinely think mfers just have terrible media literacy and horrible attention spans nowadays. I still see people herald JJK as being a good series.

Not everyone but a large amount of people nowadays

[red wing]

oh you are talking about story

[frozen grail]

Ye

[red wing]

I thought you meant 5 games similar to PGR

[zealous smelt]

He did say that ^ for combat

[frozen grail]

What I meant was if the combat is the only thing you're interested in, then I don't see how that alone keeps you on the game

Then again I saw someone a couple days ago who was a "competitive gacha player."

[zealous smelt]

Alot of gacha players dont play story youd be surprised (i like the story )

[frozen grail]

And I think thats silly personally.

[red wing]

have you seen any gameplay video of pgr? one where people be trying their best

[red wing]

blame companies
they are pretty much more leaning towards "play events, daily and weekly if you wanna get what you want" or "play story so that you can unlock your character"

[frozen grail]

I'm not blaming the companies for people terrible attention spans

[red wing]

has nothing to do with attention span, it's the way the game is designed

[pallid narwhal]

Story finishes in a day what do u do the rest 40 days of the patch

[red wing]

and if the story is bad
again, company's fault

[pallid narwhal]

Does bro just not login or what

[frozen grail]

Log-in, do dailies and play something else.

[frozen grail]

The story being bad or good is entirely subjective though.

[pallid narwhal]

Bro not doing the weekly endgame 😭

[frozen grail]

I've seen people call masterpieces bad games and bad games masterpieces. It's all subjective at the end of the day.

[frozen grail]

I'm also very new so I don't have the issue of running out of story and if I got close I'd just pump the brakes so I always have content to play.

[narrow silo]

there are objective traits however, in structure, coherency, depth, and more, what's subjective is emotional appeal or entertainment

[frozen grail]

Oh for sure, that doesn't stop people from calling things like JJK a good series however

[narrow silo]

well the issue isn't the story in its traits, but people judging based on terrible criteria here :/

[frozen grail]

I agree, however I think a lot of people don't judge things on those objective traits.

My mindset with gachas is, I would like a good story, doesn't have to be anything insane and if it is awesome. Good character designs and some flashy animations, that's all I really expect and or want. If they go above and beyond those expectations then awesome, at the end of the day if the game has passion I'm inclined to give it a chance.

[narrow silo]

indeed and that is the issue, the thing is, even without entering deeply into semantics, calling something bad or good, is attributing adjectives to qualify, evaluate the quality of something, yet their judgment is based on their appreciation, which should be a separate issue most of the time. Sadly most doesn't make the difference fr

[narrow silo]

yup, and PGR imo fits those standards at least, I can get that one would think early PGR is a bit rough on the edges, but so were most gachas, nowadays barely gacha games lives to tell the tale that they still maintain good standards

hi3, pgr, arknights, wuwa and limbus perhaps too, outside of this, I believe Nikke story wise is falling off despite its multiple qualities

[silver heath]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-burger-gif-3426560742319433332

[narrow silo]

ooh wrong chat sorry

[frozen grail]

Don't kill me

[frozen grail]

I'll respond in general

[red wing]

recent story is bad for nikke? I quit it a few months ago

[narrow silo]

well I just believe it lost a lot of depth and substance, also true for collabs and side stories

[misty nymph]

the resident evil one was so underwhelming

[red wing]

last collab I played was stellar blade which I thought was great

[south dragon]

I genuinely despise nikke because it has such a good story, but the game locks it away behind MONTHS ON END grinding, because the progression IS ATROCIOUS

[red wing]

and everything before that, except the first 6 months since I didn't play at that time

[red wing]

that's one of the reasons I quit

[narrow silo]

I dropped at this one xD ^^

[red wing]

the other is that competing at the same level as others takes even more time

and if you don't whale you can't
there's not a limit like in pgr, levels go on infinitely so there will always be someone better than you just because they've been playing for long or paying more money

[south dragon]

this makes even thinking about competing with day 1 players impossible unless you whel

[magic jolt]

can i only obtain limited gacha currency from black cards?

[south dragon]

If your question if only black cards are convertable to event cards, then the answer is yes

[magic jolt]

yea that is what i was asking but also is there any other way to obtain the event cards besides converting black cards

[south dragon]

Doing events

[magic jolt]

ah got it thanks

[shut basin]

Sheets for total bc on stories and gamemodes

[magic jolt]

wow thank you!

[sinful rivet]

I actually read a lot of the story
It just takes too long
I wont say i dont have a terrible attention span (im officially diagnosed with adhd) but half the reason i skip is because of time

Read as in did read
Frick i hate this word

[frozen grail]

It taking too long to you is probably because of your attention span im ngl.

[sinful rivet]

Randall you were right

[sinful rivet]

No im just busy

Quite literally cant afford the time

[shut basin]

n-no way

you have a j*b?

[frozen grail]

The issue is your wording, like I don't open a book and go "Wow this is taking ages!" I read what I can and I finish off where I want, there is no way the story was taking too long when you can go at your own pace I'm not throwing shade I'm just saying.

[red hollow]

JJK had potential, but it turned into flashback after flashback. it gets annoying pretty fast, so i'd give it a 5/10.

[worldly zealot]

Jjk discussion in my help channel

Unaceptable

[small storm]

Guys there's 3 more weeks before livs banner ends right? +2-3 weeks something for her sig and cub I heard

[lime oriole]

ends on dec 22

[rapid idol]

What does Liv need ss and or sig for
Damage?

[small storm]

Sig ofc

[gentle hawk]

Oh wait, yeah with sig

Read it wrong

[zealous smelt]

your better off just using solo nanami then liv without sig

[jolly oak]

What should I focus on Liv Limpidity? (skills)

[gentle hawk]

All of them

We never have an issue for that

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1368012142980370474.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PheebHeadNod

[zealous smelt]

my last 2

[shut basin]

181346A <-- use code in homeward bound for free pulls if you're a returning player^^

[pastel crater]

Mine is 4 iirc

[shut basin]

Sorry muscle memory

[zealous smelt]

gotta love them extra pulls

[shut basin]

It just triggers every time someone mentions "return" or "returning"

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[shut basin]

or i saw that

[pastel crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1379749971925925888.gif?quality=lossless&name=febichupi&size=64

[rapid idol]

I'm not doing that again dawg
Make it work

[pastel crater]

Yeh, swap is much better than solo

[rapid idol]

I got her cub
Does that make things better

[jolly oak]

should i trust gray ravens builds 😭

[pastel crater]

Nah

[jolly oak]

oh god what memories do i use for liv

[pastel crater]

Sig is still needed

[pastel crater]

4 heisen 4 cottie any atk/core passive
Ult bottom if 3S liv and above

[magic jolt]

guys what does "train 3 members to elite 1" mean?

[pastel crater]

Its when u promote a character

[rapid idol]

I stacked ult
Am I fcked?

[pastel crater]

Yeh, why do u use ult

[magic jolt]

ohh ty

[silver heath]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-car-steal-hubcap-run-gif-14032396

[pastel crater]

[silver heath]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-burger-gif-3426560742319433332

[jolly oak]

guys where do i get more of those memory choice disks thingies

[pastel crater]

You mostly buy it in wz shop

Not recommend to buy in voucher shop

[sick bolt]

Daily Fact from Mumei : Foxes' tails are really sensitive

[hazy valve]

@pastel crater ?

[pastel crater]

[shut basin]

Wat to do after pulling for Liv, sig and cub?

I don't have anything to grind for anymore

[wooden epoch]

Your life

[weak dirge]

Lose some hair in lightning wz

[pastel crater]

~~ Build pity ~~

[shut basin]

You don't do such things

the only pity you build up is Anniv banner

[pastel crater]

[silver heath]

-# sss3 liv and buy her skin

[shut basin]

Is this what Fate influences does to Bombs

[bitter summit]

You're just whel flexing atp

[craggy imp]

Sss3 no rights

[silver heath]

I just told him what he could do

I have not done such thing

[pastel crater]

Me only influence my fellow f2p

[shut basin]

The same person who have SSS in everything

[pastel crater]

~~ to whel ~~

[silver heath]

I do not

[sinful rivet]

yeah i guess i could go at my own pace
but like
the story doesn't feel nearly as satisfying and flows badly if i read it really slowly

[shut basin]

Im gonna dig for any traces of your whaling

[frozen grail]

I mean stories and media aren't necessarily supposed to feel satisfying to the reader. Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're saying. Also the writings flow is completely up to you and how many chapters you play etc.

[sinful rivet]

fair enough

[silver heath]

Vero/vera/pyro/midanca/luna all below sss

[shut basin]

How is your Lona ss7🥀

Still, that means the rest is SSS or S+

[silver heath]

[cinder belfry]

is this a bug or should i click to something?

[sinful rivet]

follow the arrow i guess?
the arrow on the ground

[cinder belfry]

oh i see

[shut basin]

Dives underground

that's where the arrows lead you

[cinder belfry]

should i get this for nanami?

[silver heath]

If you don't have her sig yet yes you can

[cinder belfry]

i got them both, whom should I aim for next after getting Liv's weapon

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/24080226/characters

Vera?

[silver heath]

Where are you getting vera, blue selector right

[cinder belfry]

No I used it for Nanami, I guess I will save for her rerun

Whenever that is

[silver heath]

Do you have thunderbolt research?

[cinder belfry]

No I used it for Lucia

[silver heath]

Ah🫃

[cinder belfry]

[silver heath]

Save resources then