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Yup,
so like should i evwen get her
But Liv is much better than CW if it helps.
Nanaknight is just too good
like mycledra said ss0 liv only increases ur score prob around 400k~ish which is not a lot
im pretty sure they were comparing liv vs solo nanami
not liv + nanami
I'll pull for her either way ...
its solo nanami vs liv+nanami
it's well known that newly released tanks are dope in terms of damage... xD
wait how do you know
isnt it obvious already
if u talking about solo liv shes just straight up way worse than solo nanami
Solo startrail can stay on field permanently
I doubt liv would be able to
I'm honestly more excited for the Oblivion buffs
can we use orange cards on liv banner?
We should be able to
Nice
So skip liv?
I thought diff banner format= only black card
Or do dual dps
that depends on u cuz theres still darkflow
Probably when she almost leaves the meta 
I forgot daren has one
anyone knows what's the size of the predownload?
9gb on pc and 6gb on mobile
PC 9gb
Mobile 6 gb
dankje 
Holy fast typer
...I will get her... Sugar-Rush whatever coating from the top-up bonus ..but I saw her getting a new coating in the future though it's a similar thematic with her release one
I want the dragon one
gawr
Idk her dragon one is cute but the sugar one is just ...Awww I like her eyes in that one haha
my little dragon cant be this cute 
Do we know which characters will come up in the arrival banner during this patch?
What if I plan to run dark flow
trying to see if I can squeeze in Selena to SSS
Then get her right
All to bianca crepe
then u should pull her
unless you have a high pity count already in arrival banner, you are just better off pulling on the anniv banner instead
liv wata vera
Oh wait arrival
Vera geraivor?
yeah
Vera is always a good option to pull for SS3 if you don't have her already I think ...O.O..
I wanna try poor CW she got a leap for nothing
Mine's at SSS and does almostly nothing 
are there any cope options over vera
In DarkFlow or in general?
nope
Darkflow
Ah, no..Vera is a must
Welp
wait there is which is wata
I guess my phys team is gone
If team is liv wata vera
And I donāt have wata and vera
What do I do
I can get vera from the blue banner
Luna (any high rank amp) and nanaknight is the way
But I have no shards for wata
u can either go liv wata lilith or liv daren vera for cope option
Whoās Daren
can use lilick in df if you don't have vera
Yeah I know xD I am using Luna, Ishmael and Nana xD cause Ishma's at SSS
darenina
Oh karenina scire?
yea
fake news where is daren vera wata
and lilith vera wata
kiwiboy no rights
no
Cuz I got rosetta from that pack
Phew
I think its better a normal amp than ish tbh
Wait Iām cooked
Is scire a rank
s
Mby Lilith? She's at SSS as well kek
dark tank s rank
ye, lilick better there, cuz she gen3 amp, more buffs
if you use ish, she copies 21, who has less buffs
kamui not shredding sht
Doesnāt tank TQE give shred
Yea but only 5%
Or does he not buff darkflow
He can get to 15% at ss
But nowadays we can get 25% without even ana upgrade
kamui only have tank shred but u need him on field for his personal shred
it does, but kamui got no off field shred, so you are stuck with qte only shred, as opposed to wata/nana who can shred nonstop
Tbh you're probably better off using nanami than trying to get scire
no
so u dont have wata and vera
I can get
Vera
Next patch
Is wata gonna be on anniversary banner?
yes
Ok so
its up until bianca iirc
Are you really gonna get wata from banner
bro must be swimming in em

That's usually not possible(and not worth it)
Why?
how is it not possible
Whatās pity on anniversary banner
I have 50/60 pity on liv banner with 3k BC so I get liv immediately
And we get 65 pulls this patch
First of all do you actually have the bc to get liv+weapon and the anniv
Not counting stuff like stronghold
same pity on anniv as on any other char banner
60 on normal, 80-100 on fate
I get liv immediately minute 1 on patch so I can get wata and vera
Only thing idk is liv sig
Should I skip the new Liv frame? (Low on BC, and her stuff is limited. And i already have Nanaknight at SS0)
not reccomended but u can
Available in play store
Already there but it's currently maintenance
There was ingame preload, now you will just have to wait, its 6gb
Why ts so funny

Buddy
I did predownload
Is that okay?
no its bad
Then you just have to wait lmao
WHY
u will lose bc
ā ļø lies
@brazen talon @silver heath saved so much now
nah
I got 300k simulated points
I'm so stacked
not even 1m 
That was not the question but sure
Whel
I spent my perma serum packs in the last 3 seconds before maintenance lul
how long is the maintenance?
Who ru
go to eep
any news on the meta since new lum is dropping
Wait brother
The patch hasn't come out yet so there's not really any news except beta stuff
We caught on cn so there's no more info overhead
i thought the new video would have at least given us some info.
There's spider2b's showcase of liv
i'm talkin about the gameplay video, maybe "new" was the wrong word
All you need to know is that you switch cw for liv
But it's from beta
Liv is the new lighting/dark flow attacker
rip cw, i actually like her gameplay
Check pins
She is coming back but as a different frame
Most probably next year
But she indeed gonna come
Theres one more updated but this basically the meta for now at least for teams
shud be noted Vero only outperforms dante at equal invest and SS3 dante is the default and if someone has SSS Dante and only SS vero then ye he's better
feral is still useable?
yes.
Feral is the Lightning Amp.
As a qte bot for lightning team yeah
how she works again? i like using her but she feels .....,for a lack of better word, weak? u i just the orbs i got and press attack but that's really it
update doko
Since shes a qte bot, you don't need to rotate her, since her dmg its not relevant to get time field
Its faq now
its no longer here
when is the update coming
Check faq
Huh, so she just weaken the enemy
Btw how do you direct people to a message
I don't really understand discord
You press yhe message and you copy link message
So just write it down?
Also works
Guys.. whats the secret to getting high ppc scores.
Watch reference videos
Try to replicate it as good as possible
Then pray
Not skill issue
Irrelevant, collab character anyway
The only reason vergil is there is cuz there is literally no replacement in ts
Besides discord but let's be real what is an A rank going to do
Look pretty
Stigmata
My poor wifu
I just learned that if you pause after killing the boss it stops counting some extra seconds 
Yes bro
Yeah still update
Otherwise wouldn't be there
Waht? So that means the longer the time the lower the score?
What
Wait how is it gonna finish the ppc tho
Yeap thats the main rule
Is that how it works for wz too?
When you kill the boss it counts extra 2/3sec depending of the boss
No
Okay
Warzone have a set timer
Right..
There is the most waves in least time possible
I forgot about that
The higher the wave you get the higher the scores
How many hrs left on maint
no you don't bro
Where are you from anyway
CDT but it doesn't matter
What time is it for you
It comes out at the same time but its different times if yk what i mean
11 pm
Maint ends in 4h
Its 8 am for me
U can check it on #1220163911723253760
Okay
202w
What zone is this
you dare call me whel fate?
Nihil 
20mil

It's 2mil 
Were already close
But u can
I don't think much people wanna mald that much for nihil
Only @craggy imp and @pastel crater can reach that
What was the monster hunt event about?

The time stop is bad there
New coop event
new coop.
2min wz
10min real life
I swear if I see these dmc characters on that new coop event 
I mean I can see that, I'm asking about how it's gonna work more or less

It's only teased in Livestream
We don't know much
Wz already takes time with normal teams but nihil with ish? Oh gawd
We fight bosses together
Ok, ty
It's unfortunate I can't fully utilize ish yet

No sig 
Thank god I didn't predownload
What's the point of preload if it's still gonna be 6gb anyway

Oof
Pull it
Cub
Its just for faster loads
no one stops me pulling nanami 
Its rewards is 1x after this
Stop it 
Fuu 
You can't take me alive 
Mann my glaciation sucks 
Imagine all 1x even weeklies
I have no glacio

such confidence 
Oh yeah you didn't have selena yet
Pull 
I messed up the wanshi rot 
Selector banner 
No, i have no blue tickets. I can pull it teddy patch
Sucks to be you, I only downloaded 16 mb after the 6 gb of preload


It'll reset 
Yes, but i have no tickets 
Btw Norman rewards are going to be x3 still
Since it started this patch
And not liv's

Same with weeklies, and clash reflection
1x all


Does this not only happen w collab? Im kinda lost

I could have sworn I only got 1x rewards when I put off my weeklies during the DMC collab
How could you 
Think of how it works on wuwa
She is not a Collab character
It's just a questionable kuro decision
It's how it's going to happen for phylotree characters, liv being the first of them
I dont play wuwa
My light, dark, nihil needs her
6 years in and they just tried it
since now we are synced I could see that more likely to happen this time, Though I suppose they might have adapted from the DMC patch.
That's gonna make people kiwi for sure
They lost their heads in the studio
Basically, you can only pull their weapon and cub whenever they are being reran
Phylotree isnt that bad in a vaccuum but its really weird to overhaul the gacha system like that 6 years in.
Yea if you pull liv and not her sig you can't get it until a rerun is happening
What so speacial abt her bruh and also making us predownload the update js to wait one day for a maintenance

shes 6 anniversary character and first character of the all versions being synced
Nothing special about liv, just some bs they wanted to introduce
None
Her only speciality is her gen 4 status
She's not even giving much benefit over solo nanami
As for predownload im sure u can figure that one out yourself
Yea
And?
First one
Gen 4 is just made up honestly
They be doing too much for her ngl
They really aren't
Wdym
Its just a new gacha based on how their other game monetizes
It still will
Ooof

Do yall have any idea what the next collab gonna be ?
Alr at 6
Only 4 to go
Tomorrow if everything goes smoothly
No
Although maybe not for pgro

Maintenance ends in 3h40?
Depends where u at
4hrs
5am utc
Sele is only in phy becus my glacio is ded with s alisa and sigless wanshi

u question my sigless wanshi?


What's glacio max score anyway
With 22.32.3
I feel like I'm washed but I'm not sure
Whel
Btw full invest is
22.32.3 220
Ty, I was wondering why it wasn't pinned anymore 
Im the culprit 
Itās to make ppl explore more as we going to update the faq channel in future
Ohh
Ikr

They finally let us helpers handle the faq
You gonna maintain it?
Only took 4 years
Oh
Me? No
More task for helper huh
At least not exclusively
Overwork
Underpaid 
No pay
Did they even get paid
5rc per week would've been nice 

I get paid in scam links



Lmao
That's like...one Luna worth 

Tech support fr
You gonna get ish skin minute one bomb?

Yes
Probably ye

Fund me
Good luck 

We all know you have funds now 
Fa will fund us


Why not you fund us

The circle continues
Calm down, you can all fund me and then I will return the money back, trust im helper
"trust" 
pyramid scheme
Every dollar donated to the fabio helper fund gets you a firm hand shake


why not pyramid scheme it
Did they fix the bot yet?
Because pyramid is bad 


I hope its true
no pyramid is strong, see its still standing.
but you know what else is still standing?

Alpha
Me,
I'm standing here and realize that you were just like me
Iāve never leaped a character before, is Luna a good place to start?
Scheme?
Watanabe epitaph, Alisa echo, yeah also Luna when she comes
Definitely 
No wata?

At least she shred dark i suppose
she's plasma beam..
I mean fair..
alternative in darkflow for wata

Atp Litetally anyone
yea there's like..4 darkflow units in the game 



Cant believe cw still mentioned at this time

how dare u
her new frame is coming 
i keep reading cw as crimson witch, i don't even play genshin anymore..

That wouldn't be called cw anymore isn't it
In 2027 right?

So those three are good?
Idk if I have enough mats for all of them tho. Which should I prioritize first?
What's that, cyberpunk wuwa? 
Wata > Alisa if have sele otherwise luna
Still alpha 
Btw guys, why can't I enter the game, it said maintenance something, what's maintenance?

Your being put in the game

I do have Selena . Is that who youāre referring to?
Yes
Dw I'm just parodying the illiterate
see maintenance is actually two words
The main tenance
Ok bet so wata, Luna, then Alisa since I have Selena?

Wata > Alisa > Luna
Word

Cw >> everyone
I wonāt lie, sheās my least invested character
Peak slash slash darkflow dodge
She's needed in glacio
Sheās not triple S, and she doesnāt have her weapon. I use tonitrus bow or something
That's fine
Mine is S
I'm still standing better than I ever have looking like a true survivor
Reallll
Trying to make history
Should I use my vouchers on anyone tho?
What's ur wanshi, lilith, wata rank rn?
All SS, except wanshi ss3
Ss3 crepe or piano 
Wasnāt there a site u can look at to quickly check all my characters and their stats?
Piano
Okayy
Or nanami first if you have not ss3 her
can someone explain, did I lose x3 if I'm not finished yet this week's rewards ?
You can ss3 wata then and save for future voucher unit
Never ss3 bonca unless you aiming for sss
Already ss3 
Excuse me, can I still get the SFX coating even if I don't have that specific construct?
Okay piano then
Let's see if luna ss3 is worth once the leap came out
Oh ig shes staying ss 
Yea, just get the specific construct later 
It's better to get her cub rather than ss3 imo, but get piano's cub first




Thankfully theyre prolly the only ones with sig cub i have for the past year 
Mild boost on ult rather than core passive that maybe just used once or twice in a rot

Oh wait, not the core, but blue/tidal orb
Thank you I have another question: Is Nirvartia included in this patch?
No
what time does maintenance get done in est?
Oof
Thank you
thank you
Probably two more patch


I'm tired of fate pretending to be broke
Noo



If you read between the lines, it means he will ss her with rc
No, 10 pull multi

You're so right


3 more

I have been saving up black cards for her. I recently started playing about 1 month and 15 days ago, and I have around 4k
Quite sad

I spent most of my black cards on the Bianca fate banner; I didn't know the difference between fate and the normal banner...



What pity did u reach?
How could you @pastel crater
Surely not more than 60

I got Bianca on the 74th pull, which was a multi from weekly quests, literally 6 pulls away from 80 ~ 100 pity...

I managed to get her on my third attempt when I first downloaded PGR, so she's SS


I believe that is a reasonable price
Wow
Yeah
I'm broke

Same
Same
Lies
I can't even P2W because PGR is not available in my region...
Iām grateful to have access to this game thanks to my VPN

Let @pastel crater pay for you



It is very worth it to sss her especially for competitive players that want the best value/potential of her.
However, it's a lot of investment for new players. New players should save and spend their bc wisely as the new anniversary update is near. So it is okay if you don't sss her. The nice spot if you're not gonna sss her is ss, not ss3. If you want a simple way to put it: if ss is 1 and sss is 2, ss3 is just 1.000001. of course this sounds exaggerated, it's just to show how significant sss is from ss compared to ss3 from ss.
So, if you're not planning to sss her in the near future / don't have enough resources. Ss is fine, you can just get S from gacha + 30 shard from the phantom pain shop. But if you insist on sss-ing her, make sure you have enough bc/yellow card/||money|| and proper management plan to not brick your account.
Either way, you should wait after the anniversary update. Not only just to prevent impulsive move right now, there's a lot of new stuff over there, who knows something new has caught your eyes. The choice is yours
How in the world did that happen

wtf
who is this about
bianca crepe?
Riley copypasta
Yeh
š³
I want some coatings brother
Fund him if you may

is in top emotes of this server 100% due to fate lol



Whoever writes this surely high on something
At what time i can play pgr.
When will Lamia be free?
Does pgr maintenance finish on the dot or earlier?
Patch Name: Where Nightmares Dwell
NOTE : Times and Dates are converted according to your Timezone automatically
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Maintenance begins <t:1762988400:R>
- Date: <t:1762988400:d>
- Time: <t:1762988400:t>
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Maintenance ends <t:1763010000:R>
- Date: <t:1763010000:d>
- Time: <t:1763010000:t>
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Patch begins <t:1763010000:R>
- Date: <t:1763010000:d>
- Time: <t:1763010000:t>
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Patch ends in <t:1766357940:R>
- Date: <t:1766357940:d>
- Time: <t:1766357940:t>
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Liv : Limpidity releases <t:1763010000:R>
- Date: <t:1763010000:d>
- Time: <t:1763010000:t>
Information about the debut Omniframes:
- Name ā Liv : Limpidity
- Rank: S
- Element: Lightning
- Type: Attacker
- Effect: Darkflow
- NOTE ā No info available cuz we are synced with CN server. GG NO MORE ADVANCED INFO ANYMORE! THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED RIGHT GLOBAL PLAYERS?
Useful Links
- Liv Guide not coming anytime soon (now suffer)
Events
- Starts on <t:1763010000:f>
- Permanent** : Main Story Chapter - Where Nightmares Dwell
- Liv Limpidity Character Trial and Character Trial Stage
- Stellar Rush
- Godfall Revelation : Desperado Clash (New Season)
- Ishmael Gach Coating released and Coating Story - Her Merciful Gaze
- Fluffy Snooze
- Starts on <t:1763096400:f>
- Death's Net (Melinoe Overspeed)
- Starts on <t:1763614800:f>
- Permanent : Babylonia - Commercial District (New 3D Dorm Mode)
- Starts on <t:1764565200:f>
- Tactical Analysis Compilation
What selectors do we get tmrw?
Cuz
I donāt nave WiFi
But ima be using alll my data
On Playing this game
Wait a secā¦
game update is today???
For me itās today
What the hell
Oh no no noooo
Is Luna worth it? (Newbie)
Like in an hour lol
yes post leap shes solid
not worth using selector on but yea
you can get her for a 1$ bundle this patch
Oh fr what lol
yeah
is the patch live now?
no ^
for 5rc or 1$ you get luna oblivion+ some other goodies
Rn i just have CW, No21, Nanami and Lilith so i wonder should get her
get her how like i said shes not worth it via selector or anniversary banner if your new
Hmm I already have her so It would depend on what else is in it. Thank u
get vera geravoir from blue ticket selector next patch mjuvius
fair enough but 1$ for a copy is still nice
Yeah but idk if SS3 is gonna even do anything lol
Hmm ok will see them
but you can always just get ss3 luna for free overtime
via vouchers
although wanshi/lilith/wata are prio
š
yea shes getting a leap
still recommend dropping a 1$ for her though unless your f2p ^
U Fund him

Iām not f2p but I just swiped in infinity Nikki so I was hoping to not swipe again 
Yup
new update playable yet?
no
Soonā¢
Maintanance
why am i getting an infinitely long update even thou i pre downloaded it
waaoo

d u guys use launcher or smwhere else?
Mine is fine tho, like i predownload 2gb so its 4gb just earlier.
At least PGR re-opens a launcher. Unlike some other game.
every time theres an update my speed dec. proportionally to the percentage downloaded and 1 min takes an hour at the end. what is this

In pc sometimes get u kb/s
Normal
Cuz sht servers
sheesh
Even with 1Gb/s sometimes like meto get that
lol
1mb internet in big 25
good luck friends 
i think its jus a pgr thing
speed doesnt matter
i have a decent speed too
like, 300 smthn
my game downloaded at 25mb/s
rigged
download was fast for me too 
game is up 
not for global
Whats the difference between coating and frame?
Is there a section for if the new liv is worth pulling ? donāt see anything in the pins unless Iām blind
Coating is skin
Frame the actual unit
no but in general every new unit is worth pulling in this game
New unit worth pulling usually in this game
So no need to written that
this games different in that every new unit tends to be meta
You dont skip new units
Good so sheās gonna be replacing alpha yeah?
We donāt know the elements of the other frames they announced as well correct?
Yeah that threw me for a loop lmao
Only who doing worth pulling is the radia girl in yt
But only preference written
Teddy is ice
Iāve been holding off building ice incase the new liv was ice
It really is which is why Iāve been holding off investing at all
wanshi hard carrying
Been saving the vouchers for ice just incase
Wabshi and qu carries
wanshi is still prio on vouchers

Wats the builds for ss liv
so it begins
Rip bot
Same as sss
But with core
Smh no rights have to use core reso
the only thing she carries is a garbo ice toilet 
Oh you know what I could get Qus sig from the free weapon selector couldnāt I
Or Luna
No rights

Nah she carries 8s mado
but a pilot is the bottom of the sewer pits 
DLT is needed for liv
Says who
why 8s when can 7s? 
someone who's not at the bottom 
Takes one to know one
Cuz skin tissue
of course I know them, every time I look down, I have to see them after all 
Why would you be looking down 
what's the lore behind the little green guy that appears on the download/install bar?
I must gaze upon them to emphasize my endless pity for the bottom-dwellers 
wut green guy? 
this fella
ohh, looks like a badly made froggie
Hello, so i stopped playing pgr for about 1 month, and i heard the new liv is limited, is that true?
it's true
i forgot abt lucia's froggie, ty all 
Cap
I have a question regarding tech thingy
My pgr acc was hacked and I emailed them to remove and change the email used for the pgr account and I used the original device where the pgr acc originated from and they rejected me saying I have to provide the name of the account (the third party link) which was used to hack me and they rejected me afterwards
You don't know your email third party account?
I know my email
It was hacked as well
And I gave them proof
I linked my email and facebook account there which I gave proof to
Lets continue in tech channel
Its just that one third party account that the hacked put on my account and they asked for the name of that account so they can remove it
Shre
Then giv username and game id
Then ask babylonia_megumi
Maybie he can do anything
is having a kbps download in pgr launcher normal every update? since i notice my wifi isnt really the problem from the beginning
Severs issue
cause its been like this since yesterday so should i wait another day? My mobile is perfectly fine so i assume i should play there for the meantime
servers up yet?
no
thx
10mins is when mait should end
back to DNA grinding
How high priority is new liv's ss3
its really good but she functions at ss wait for meta people to test it more
i mean yea but i assumed this was post liv weapon
Thats a given
yup
Oh yeah speaking of whats up w the new banner system? I heard a thing or two but i dont have details
Smth abt being limited^2
character banner is essentially the same
weapon banner/cub banner are no longer permeant
meaning you have to pull them that patch
Guys who to pick as a beginner? Just downloaded the game
pull liv the new character
but theyy will rerun with the character in the future ig?
use your blue ticket member target on either vera geravoir or nanami startrail
Mmmmm yeah no thats unnecessarily scummy huh
PGR is basically "Just get the new thing" if you're competitive
if you don't care..play whoever
yes they will
but who knows how long
i ain't gonna lie to you I hate the changes to the CUB and wep banners
It was one of the best things pgr had going for it
it's a cashgrab anyhow
I see, any other characters for the team comp or her team will be released later?
they essentially put fomo on weapon/cub banners
Nanami Star trail
which you can get via blue ticket member selector ^
Isnāt this like every other gacha game 
not really
Bianca crepuscule is the best for me.
wuwa for example cartheyia/zani team have been number 1 /2
for like half a year now
But yeah with newer units coming out harder bosses are released for ppc
I'm hoping to enjoy liv limpidity as well like bianca.
Nah~
Even in Genshin I was using Diluc [Standard banner 5star from day 1] to clear end game content for 3 or so years
Good luck
I hope you get a multipull
Best of luck gentlemen
Itās been a while since I malded wuwa but they donāt have leaderboards right?
i will send my energy
Good luck boys
besides fanmade ones no
Nah Wuwa doesn't have Leaderboards thankfully
I might pull on fate to sss liv 
Most of the flexing comes from solo runs
I don't like leaderboards. Those are making me anxious.

š§±
Good luck, first day pullers
goodluck to you as well š³
That's kinda all we got left in PGR from patch to patch
WZ and PPC leaderboards 
When does
Maintenance end in pst
Imma pull in 27
should have ended 1 minute ago
Why is the server not live



