She is gen3 but her buffs for now are underwhelming
#📨・general-help
polar obsidian
She is gen3 but her buffs for now are underwhelming
Numbers are always irrelevant in beta though
teal frigate
She is gen3 but her buffs for now are underwhelming
yea but what is the benefit of gen 3
polar obsidian
yea but what is the benefit of gen 3
Standardized orb system
craggy imp
yea but what is the benefit of gen 3
Base S gets SSS gen2 amp buff and above ss gets better buffs
craggy imp
Yea and Lilith
teal frigate
ah ok got it
polar obsidian
She has her class buff, her qte buff, her ult buff
polar obsidian
We need more armored ladies in video games
teal frigate
ikr, Rosetta was amazing to me, but we dont get much of those anymore
polar obsidian
Geiravior was already veering towards Victoria's secret armor
teal frigate
i mean... yea but Vera made it looks good
polar obsidian
Which after learning her last frame was garnet
teal frigate
she looks more like a war god
rotund minnow
Another Vera?
teal frigate
nah Vera is good in anything honestly
rotund minnow
C'mon bro, Vera Attacker when
teal frigate
Another Vera?
her name is right there dude
polar obsidian
She's badass despite geiravior's appearance though
teal frigate
Veronica is the plasma UPPC boss
craggy imp
her name is right there dude
Veranica 
teal frigate
She's badass despite geiravior's appearance though
nah Geiravor was cool to me
brazen talon
veronig
polar obsidian
I actually like the demon armor
polar obsidian
Which despite that being the fanservice coating, suits her persona more
gentle hawk
Another Vera?
veronica that got veranish
brazen talon
polar obsidian
Like geiravior works as a plot point for her and skk
polar obsidian
Cuz shes more honest and vulnerable with them
teal frigate
strong woman drops her guard on loved ones as usual
polar obsidian
strong woman drops her guard on loved ones as usual
We all should get opportunities to do that, regardless of strength or gender
teal frigate
We all should get opportunities to do that, regardless of strength or gender
true, when is skk gonna be the hero
polar obsidian
And the writers didnt tropify it too badly
Also skk had to work for that bond with vera
gentle hawk
vera has stronger bond with us than selena
polar obsidian
Im at stars ensnared and I still dont get selena as a character
teal frigate
i really need to continue story 💀
gentle hawk
selena is certified delulu girl with damsel in distress
polar obsidian
Not really. She seems very independent from what ive seen
gentle hawk
ch 34 will make u think otherwise
formal ridge
Damn people already hate Vero?
polar obsidian
Does kuro change frame appearances and designs though based on beta feedback though
gentle hawk
too vera like, low dmg, not really that much upgrade from echo...
craggy imp
too vera like, low dmg, not really that much upgrade from echo...
V2 innate crit buff without sig memo trust
gentle hawk
Does kuro change frame appearances and designs though based on beta feedback tho...
ish did
polar obsidian
Okay theres still hope
I hope it was a case of them selling the armor separately in a coating or smth
And this will get them to reconsider
gentle hawk
tho for kit, no more hope unless they really change it, just gotta cope with that
formal ridge
Is design really that bad? I personally dig the draconic appearance apart from the comically large sized boobs
gentle hawk
Is design really that bad? I personally dig the draconic appearance apart from t...
magically became more bigger than her boss form
craggy imp
Is design really that bad? I personally dig the draconic appearance apart from t...
Her boss design was just so much better
gentle hawk
literally just fan service atp
polar obsidian
Is design really that bad? I personally dig the draconic appearance apart from t...
And the skintight outfit, helmet less face, tights from a lingerie catalogue
brazen talon
still breedable
polar obsidian
magically became more bigger than her boss form
M.i.n.d deviation bois
craggy imp
Id rather breed boss vero
craggy imp
Maybe it’s time for nappies
brazen talon
Maybe it’s time for nappies
who's gonna tuck baby boy in
craggy imp
who's gonna tuck baby boy in
Waiting for xav 
brazen talon
craggy imp
brazen talon
craggy imp
brazen talon
craggy imp
brazen talon
thorn vigil
Is design really that bad? I personally dig the draconic appearance apart from t...
no its actually quite refreshing from lastest frames all having either pretty dresses or casual clothing
teal frigate
Is design really that bad? I personally dig the draconic appearance apart from t...
yes because she lost her armor and helmet
now she's just look like a nude draconian
polar obsidian
Also its not like you dont have reference points for good dragon looks
glossy aurora
dante cant proc yellow slot qte?
glossy aurora
You have Faust hat pre sdt, and his nuke in sdt
thats weird
granite ore
Is it recommended to scrap 3 unused characters weapons for a new one. (CW,Empy,Lamia) I want to get new bianca weapon
normal night
Is it recommended to scrap 3 unused characters weapons for a new one. (CW,Empy,L...
Nope, never worth scrapping instead of using for resonance.
polar obsidian
I asked this and people say its better to use for reso
polar obsidian
And leaving
I seem to recall full charge yellow also triggering qtes
Also im pretty sure its the ba hold that triggers the qtes
cerulean anvilBOT
Dante
Heart for Humanity
polar obsidian
I thought dante only triggers qte when entering sdt
Wait only?!
I never noticed cuz i dont use qtes outside of ult windows anyway
cerulean anvilBOT
Dante
Undying Justice
slim narwhal
And leaving
Idk i dont remember that, i think that was nanami that does that
polar obsidian
His ult2 should trigger qtes as well
glossy aurora
Also im pretty sure its the ba hold that triggers the qtes
my dante is still S rank, so no all qte yet
narrow root
before Lilith she was enabler
red sedge
Ah so it really is just me being bad
narrow root
what invest?
narrow root
narrow root
580k+ should've been possible...
gg, next time
red sedge
580k+ should've been possible...
gg, next time<:RavenSleep:842385551349121064>
Oh?
Is there a specific rotation to get the most outta this ?
Cuz I went 1-2-1 for Pyroath here by reflex.
Hindsight I shoulda probs save canceled cuz I didn't have time for retries but it is what it is
red sedge
Thank you thank you
narrow root
invest is a bit different but its still low
also they were using arclight as tank so it should be possible for you with nana
glossy aurora
does shakespeare buff ignition? or does elemental res shred work on affix?
thin tendon
Is next patch details still not out yet?
normal night
I don't believe so.
tired nexus
Is next patch details still not out yet?
They should be out next week
lime oriole
....skill issue.
why veronica so low
red sedge
why veronica so low
Skill issue.
lime oriole
i see
red sedge
I haven't used Plasma at all really
Only got up to 3 mil in the Plasma warzone after getting Nanaknight
it is what it is.
polar obsidian
Im so glad ignition is as strong as it is
Makes going off element so much less painful
fossil light
S rank Dante still viable as QTE bot?
polar obsidian
Hes a lot better at being a qte bot at ss3
tired nexus
Read that as Daren mb
fossil light
Still better than nothing right? Just gonna Smash burn affix with Nanaknight
polar obsidian
Also alphonse vs herschell vs hervor
fossil light
or should I run Vera and Vero?
fossil light
We will have to wait then
tired nexus
Which one actually translates to most dmg
Wdym
polar obsidian
One says +10% fire dmg
fossil light
Also alphonse vs herschell vs hervor
. this prolly
polar obsidian
The other says +5% atk, 5% dmg
tired nexus
. this prolly
I know but who's actually using it
fossil light
So no harmony?
polar obsidian
Assuming access to harmony
tired nexus
Like what set does Dante use?
fossil light
Which Character tho
polar obsidian
Dante
polar obsidian
He runs 2 cottie and 2 of smth else for ppc
tired nexus
He runs 2 cottie and 2 of smth else for ppc
It's 4Cottie for pretty much everything
If there's a different build for him somewhere it's probably a mega high invest thing where the PPC enemy dies immediately
fossil light
That's just min-max that doesn't matter for f2p or sometimes dolphins
red sedge
https://youtu.be/GdQT3PH3os8?si=QrcJVv_nwrAQ0ahu
I got
SS0 r1 dlt Pyroath
SS2 R1 dlt Lilith
Ss0 5* Nanami knight
It iiiis what it isssss
topaz kettle
guys what is difference between the fate vergil and fate dante from the normal ones in the gacha?
tired nexus
guys what is difference between the fate vergil and fate dante from the normal o...
Themed banner is 60 hard pity w 0.5% S-rank pull rate
Fate themed banner is 80 soft pity, 100 hard pity, 1.5% S-rank pull rate
Fate is pretty much a scam unless you are a whale or a gambling addict, it's 40 more pulls required with the most minute increase to an already abysmal pity rate
topaz kettle
so ignore fate and just pull normal ban
tired nexus
so ignore fate and just pull normal ban
Yes
normal night
they give dante for free isn't it?
Yes. you get a copy of him for free through the collab story chapter 6. However Base S rank, he isn't great.
tired nexus
they give dante for free isn't it?
Yes but he needs SS rank to function, so you will need to pull a dupe of him
small storm
Hey guys
I just rolled for a sign weapon, and let my stubbornness take over, ended up rolling Shukra's and not pyroaths
Am I making a big mistake🥲
tired nexus
I just rolled for a sign weapon, and let my stubbornness take over, ended up rol...
Both are quite necessary, you arent screwed but it's def not the best decision with new Bianca so close by
tired nexus
How do I get him...
You pull for him
inner flax
It's not working.
.
tired nexus
It's not working.
.
Wdym it's not working
inner flax
It's saying something about an error
tired nexus
Send an SS of what it says
small storm
Both are quite necessary, you arent screwed but it's def not the best decision w...
Alr thanks
slim narwhal
Am I making a big mistake🥲
R1
normal night
are we allowed to talk about the current pgr beta
It's been spoke about a few times so not quite sure but she doesn't look great rn.
hollow ginkgo
It's been spoke about a few times so not quite sure but she doesn't look great r...
Are you talking about Veronica
normal night
Yes I am.
hollow ginkgo
I believe she looks awesome drip wise but she could use some changes
normal night
The wings look dumb imo.
hollow ginkgo
Some people don't like the fact her armor didn't carry over which is a shame
i think the wings just need to be bigger imo
atomic arch
does disruption have its own rotation like other affixes or is it the same
hollow ginkgo
They're too small, and Veronica is literally freaking giant
when she ults the wings look off
I think it's because they're not big wings but like proportional sized wings
atomic arch
I think it's because they're not big wings but like proportional sized wings
penguin wings
hollow ginkgo
Yep
They're too small
Just think about it, making the wings bigger will fix the odd looking ult
brittle pewter
I feel like she can keep the skimpy look she has in her regular appearance but in her winged state she gains armor
That would appease both crowds 
kit wise she's the most underwhelming looking character I've seen yet
normal night
Agree.
brittle pewter
Also she replaces Echo 
normal night
Alisa was doing fine work too 
brittle pewter
Both ice and lightning desperately need new amps
hollow ginkgo
The ever present Lightning and Ice Amplifiers:
brittle pewter
Physical was already in a pretty good spot
normal night
Ice needs something...phys was already fine after Selena.
hollow ginkgo
So who exactly does Veronica replace
quick bronze
brittle pewter
It doesn't sit well with me that she already buffs some of the strongest teams
hollow ginkgo
Alissa and Vera (Burn affix)?
gentle hawk
Also she replaces Echo <:PainfulStare:861507218611372052>
As of now someone said that sss echo = ss3 vero
normal night
So who exactly does Veronica replace
Alisa Echo and Vera for Ignition.
hollow ginkgo
Uhhh
sinful rivet
As of now someone said that sss echo = ss3 vero
well fk
brittle pewter
As of now someone said that sss echo = ss3 vero
She's that trash?! 
gentle hawk
She's that trash?! <:WorryCommandant:860198708415168549>
That's why people mad, lower dmg than hanying
brittle pewter
Only reason I'd get her then is for ignition and that's a big maybe
normal night
She's that trash?! <:WorryCommandant:860198708415168549>
Nah this is going off her beta numbers which is never a full indiction of damage subject to change ofc.
brittle pewter
That's why people mad, lower dmg than hanying
TF
quick bronze
Hanying Alisa Veronica Team incoming
brittle pewter
Solace already one of the weaker tanks in the game
quick bronze
south acorn
Phy being in same ppc rotation as glacio would be issue for the future. Kuro was afraid of that. No crit rate alternative that is good as Alisa until Vero.
sinful rivet
no pull then
Save bc to brick on coatings
gentle hawk
They really fumbled too much in this beta
brittle pewter
The literally have Geravoir to take an example out of
gentle hawk
no pull then
Save bc to brick on coatings
Still has another 3 version of beta to improve
hollow ginkgo
Yep
normal night
Does she atleast do anything special for ignition?
Mainly damage and a buff iirc?
atomic arch
I havent seen much anyone doing ignite rot
better amp than vera ig
brittle pewter
Mainly damage and a buff iirc?
Doesn't refresh stacks like Echo does for glacio?
normal night
I have no idea on that.
sinful rivet
wait for ignition
What do you do when they are burning
brittle pewter
wait for ignition
What do you do when they are burning
yeah
tepid pasture
Does she atleast do anything special for ignition?
buffs and a bit of DMG(her DMG sucks)
rotation isn't that much different from Physical either
gentle hawk
I assume just hold ult like vera
brittle pewter
buffs and a bit of DMG(her DMG sucks)
rotation isn't that much different from P...
That's beyond disappointing especially coming from Walter
gentle hawk
So lazy
normal night
I assume just hold ult like vera
That's exactly what it is, just hold ult.
gentle hawk
Sigh...
tepid pasture
That's beyond disappointing especially coming from Walter
it's still V1, she also had the same issue as Vera in beta
brittle pewter
Still she needs ALOT of work
tepid pasture
yep, hopefully V2 fixes all those issues
if not, ez skip(unless you really really really like her)
normal night
I doubt it since its kit issues.
exotic dagger
sinful rivet
what do you do while the enemy is burning
Just wait for ignition to brun out then apply more?
brittle pewter
Her whole kit is just 🗑️
brittle pewter
I don't think there will be enough time to fix it unless they add completely new attacks/animations
gentle hawk
If this veronica is literally before ||her friend died||, all new gen 3 amps are old fossil frame, it's irony to the last gen of amp, that's why their kit are simple and fall off rather than gen 2 amp
exotic dagger
are we flaming vero?
brittle pewter
since Lilith
Lilith atleast has a different rot for plasma beam with different animations
normal night
are we flaming vero?
We are discussing her not quite flaming as everything is still subject to change.
tepid pasture
Lilith atleast has a different rot for plasma beam with different animations
true, but u she'll never be able to be as stylish as other characters in terms of gameplay
exotic dagger
brittle pewter
true, but u she'll never be able to be as stylish as other characters in terms o...
She has enough kit you can easily style with her tho
tepid pasture
She has enough kit you can easily style with her tho
try her in parry ball
fresh burrow
ah yes, styling is what matters most
exotic dagger
parry ball💀
brittle pewter
ah yes, styling is what matters most
fr I'm here for hype moments and aura
exotic dagger
tepid pasture
newer bosses might have awesome moveset too, but no one can outshine the boss of parry, Hetero Hive Mother
brittle pewter
newer bosses might have awesome moveset too, but no one can outshine the boss of...
I love parry sfx
exotic dagger
the biggest hype moment is getting a new max score in wz
the most aura is having the top score for your invest
brittle pewter
They better crank her numbers to Geravoir level honestly
tepid pasture
that's for whales, f2ps can never have that
exotic dagger
how is anything i said exclusive to whales
brittle pewter
Because other wise I see 0 practical use with her
tepid pasture
im one that's for sure
fresh burrow
that's for whales, f2ps can never have that<:lulw:842384743269924925>
learn to read
normal night
They better crank her numbers to Geravoir level honestly
That's the only way I am getting her past S 😄
fresh burrow
reading comprehension found dead in a ditch
exotic dagger
brittle pewter
If she hits like a noodle with those trash animations easiest skip of my life
tepid pasture
oh
max score in terms of personal score, mb mb
thought max score in terms of global rank
like top 1 Legend
brittle pewter
Hopefully they add new stuff to her kit like they did with walter
exotic dagger
gentle hawk
If she hits like a noodle with those trash animations easiest skip of my life
Hits like a noodle and echo has more interesting kit than her
exotic dagger
top 1 legend must be real dalao
fresh burrow
xeno top 1
brittle pewter
Hits like a noodle and echo has more interesting kit than her<:lulw:842384743269...
Literally this
exotic dagger
brittle pewter
Also Echo is free lmao
tepid pasture
now that you've mention it, Gen 2 Amps is somewhat much more fun than Gen 3
exotic dagger
are you guys excited for discord
gentle hawk
The thing is in lore, the production of gen 2 amps are tally with story progression
tepid pasture
are you guys excited for discord
SSS+ R3 here i come
brittle pewter
are you guys excited for discord
I have SSS Vergil and I'm still super hyped for Discord
normal night
are you guys excited for discord
who?
gentle hawk
While lilith is literally became cons after pv came and geiravor already exist when us just an fos student
brittle pewter
going to be scoring 2m in siege with her 🔥
fresh burrow
are you guys excited for discord
Yessir
gentle hawk
That's why the kit so simple
exotic dagger
gentle hawk
R3 her
tepid pasture
balter who?
exotic dagger
in the bedroom, the mask stays on 😤
brittle pewter
The fact balter got trashed on by an A rank
tepid pasture
same goes for Nanamech and Bridget
normal night
same goes for Nanamech and Bridget<:lulw:842384743269924925>
Nanamech got trashed on the moment she released.
gentle hawk
Discord serves better fan service than vero, vero just feels cheap lmao
tepid pasture
Discord is much more fun in gameplay than them Gen 3 amps
brittle pewter
Discord feels like the S rank and Vero feels like the A rank
tepid pasture
Vero doesn't fit in A rank, they have more fun moveset than her
brittle pewter
Geravoir I'm cool with since their core gameplay loop feels satisfying + parries and animation canceling feels really good
normal night
Doesn't fit S, doesn't fit A...damn she got nowhere to go. /j
tepid pasture
B rank
brittle pewter
Doesn't even fit in the teams she's designed for
gentle hawk
She supposedly to cover 3 teams now, yet crumble
tepid pasture
tbh, i feel bad for Vero, they should have just made a new Daren frame🥀
Alisa and Vera are fine in Physical and Ignition
brittle pewter
I wouldn't mind physical/ignition if it weren't for the fact DMC was literally 3 patches ago
gentle hawk
With that kind of kit being dark tank, some people can cope
But they bother put phys and make dissapointing chara
brittle pewter
What were they on directly buffing both collab teams
worldly zealot
More bang for my buck
normal night
What were they on directly buffing both collab teams <:WorryCommandant:860198708...
Gotta give the tourists something to stay for 😄
worldly zealot
Dedicated dmc amplifier, must pull
fresh burrow
it's either to buff (high invest) or to powercreep (low/no invest) the collab characters
gentle hawk
More bang for my buck
Where the official post🥀, even the lore teaser still 2/3
brittle pewter
it's either to buff (high invest) or to powercreep (low/no invest) the collab ch...
Either way she'll make those teams really strong if only for their off field and how their kits work
worldly zealot
Where the official post🥀, even the lore teaser still 2/3<:WorryCommandant:86019...
Ask kuso
gentle hawk
Man
brittle pewter
If she's strong in physical for full release tho I can see her being utterly bonkers with Vergil's physical off field
He has 2x the off field Selena has
Which is why did they think this combo was good 😭
Ice and lightning rn 🪦
gentle hawk
The question is, why bother making it with dmc in mind?
brittle pewter
fr
gentle hawk
That's just another level of fk up
fresh burrow
to milk the dmc fans
brittle pewter
Vergil could be better than Selena as attacker due to the off field
which is just plain stupid that they thought buffing DMC was a good idea
They're already the top teams in affix 😭
gentle hawk
That's what makes the matters worse
Now u really meed to be fomo to get dmc
Cus if not, gonna regret, fk that
brittle pewter
It's like if she's trash why does she even exist when Geravoir and Echo are already there
fresh burrow
nah, still not pulling
gentle hawk
Same for me tbh
normal night
People saying they won't release a dark tank cause Bianca would go crazy....wait lets buff the top scores already
brittle pewter
That physical off field is genuinely disgusting when combined with crits
gentle hawk
People saying they won't release a dark tank cause Bianca would go crazy....wait...
One answer, bianca gets more hate than dmc, that's why
brittle pewter
One answer, bianca gets more hate than dmc, that's why
atleast they cooked with her moveset
gentle hawk
People praise kuro like a god for doing 1:1 ratio collab, i dont even care about that
brittle pewter
She has like 4 tlc animations
gentle hawk
They just left ori pgr chara in shambles
fresh burrow
they had to make wata leap shred darkflow specifically, not dark.
gentle hawk
That's also one of the reason
Otherwise dark can reach higher score with wata
They dont want that cus all dark team are og chara
fresh burrow
yeah, and they dont want dark overtaking the dmc scores
brittle pewter
Even with scire dark is in a good spot due to how much damage both Walter and Lilith do
Ice and lightning need new characters asap
When we getting a new lightning attacker kuro 
gentle hawk
Ik that's why new dark tank is nonexistent, but they pulled a dumb move making dmc team literally the strongest now
brittle pewter
Vergil physical actually being made viable thanks to this is disgusting work
Assuming that vero gets buffed
Which will absolutely happen
normal night
Oh she will.
brisk adder
Vergil physical actually being made viable thanks to this is disgusting work
his physical rn so buns💔
fresh burrow
it's has been their plan all along.
- get new players to play the game via collab
- make the new whales satisfied with the collab characters' performance
- buff them even more with new char (vero) so the new whales whale even harder
normal night
his physical rn so buns💔
As it should be.
brisk adder
As it should be.
yh ik
brittle pewter
his physical rn so buns💔
It's not the worst... But for high investors in him they might genuinely start scoring more than Selena due to his off field being crazy at SS3 and above
Assuming Veronica does damage
normal night
it's has been their plan all along.
1. get new players to play the game via col...
I just hope its not gonna end up like Nier a whole ass year of them just being top dog.
thorn vigil
guys look up "pgr veronica" in gifs
brittle pewter
I just hope its not gonna end up like Nier a whole ass year of them just being t...
They honestly might atp especially if we get a true slash amp
gentle hawk
At least patches centered around nier not as heavy as dmc
They really just want people to leave now, do they?
normal night
Having Bianca right after is devious work ;D
obtuse river
how to cancel SDT for Vergil while doing the motivated combo?
thorn vigil
how to cancel SDT for Vergil while doing the motivated combo?
you need to switch something for his ult in his character screen iirc
obtuse river
you need to switch something for his ult in his character screen iirc
what switch??
tepid pasture
what switch??
check his skill description > signature move, there's a button beside the upgrade button that changes the way his ult works
wind mist
Can you guys tell me bianca new frame kit? Or it hasn't released yet
normal night
Can you guys tell me bianca new frame kit? Or it hasn't released yet
It's released on other servers just not global until the 19th. There will be several yt vids showing you her full kit if you google/yt Bianca: Crepuscule
wind mist
It's released on other servers just not global until the 19th. There will be sev...
Appreciate it
exotic dagger
i need chiko yo be playable NOW
wind mist
Chi what
exotic dagger
normal night
I'd take anyone over Daren at this point.
exotic dagger
or make her the next phys tank
ionic wadi
lmao I thought for a second it's liv
worldly zealot
Hear me out: light amp teddy
fresh burrow
would
fresh burrow
Hear me out: light amp teddy <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
and light attacker pulao
hollow jacinth
Hear me out: light amp teddy <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
fathom sand
craggy imp
hollow ginkgo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1413206187507454083/v...
zamn
fathom sand
rotund salmon
is this game f2po
rotund salmon
You can beat people with spending money
this game has pvp what
ivory ermine
PvE scoring based competition
fathom sand
~~you stay either as c*sual tourist or pay and play optimally ~~
crisp lichen
im new on what banner should i spent my black cards on ?
fathom sand
save
wait for Bianca crep next patch
ivory ermine
Get Startrail from the anniversary banner, get Oblivion from the Thunderbolt research, wait until the next version and get Geiravor from the standard selector
Get Crepuscule along the way
fathom sand
isnt anni banner over already
fathom sand
stevelao misinfo 
ivory ermine
The new players had a chance
fathom sand
is getting vergil worth it
if you like, get him
if you wanna play with human rights, get his weapon, cub, hanying+hanying, her sig
crisp lichen
In general no
man i only downloaded this game for the collab
ivory ermine
Well go ahead then
crisp lichen
i want both him and dante
ivory ermine
Who is gonna stop you from getting him
crisp lichen
i was just asking from a meta perspective
ivory ermine
Well you just got your answer
crisp lichen
i know
fathom sand
i want both him and dante
(donte is free btw
but you cant play him optimally without pulling his copy
)
ivory ermine
From the meta perspective, it's not worth getting the collaboration character simply from how little they're actually useful in the meta side of the game to actually justify even though they're discounted
You can get way more value with the other characters that's actually impactful in meta in comparison
crisp lichen
(donte is free btw
but you cant play him optimally without pulling his copy<a:Pe...
oh thats a shame
if i were to pull on the collab banner which one should i pull on or are they both the same
crisp lichen
You can get way more value with the other characters that's actually impactful i...
got it
ivory ermine
You certainly don't want to pull on the 80~100 pity banner
That's 20 to 40 more pulls expensive
Just do the normal one
crisp lichen
oh i thought that gave like an upgrade or smt
ivory ermine
Both does
crisp lichen
ok thx
gentle hawk
From the meta perspective, it's not worth getting the collaboration character si...
Then they make a move to make collab more stronger dumb
eternal kelp
Why did kuro get this dumb, They were supposed to replace old hag karenina dang it
waste potential of alisa
pseudo hawk
From the meta perspective, it's not worth getting the collaboration character si...
as much as i would love to have them in the meta, having a collab char just makes it worse for new comers who can't them but i think with dmc you're kinda playing the game in a different way since dante and vergil were just made to be replicate dmc5 gameplay
polar obsidian
From the meta perspective, it's not worth getting the collaboration character si...
Think theres enough leeway for the collab units to have significant use case even though they're suboptimal
tired nexus
Why did kuro get this dumb, They were supposed to replace old hag karenina dang ...
Kuro has not cared about balance of characters since Pyroath
eternal kelp
Kuro has not cared about balance of characters since Pyroath
dang. it feels like releasing random skin in league legend
atomic arch
Then they make a move to make collab more ~~stronger~~ dumb
Let's make the collab more meta after you can no longer get them, so the people that didnt feel bad about it!
eternal kelp
I'm outta here. that means what they feel like to release, that's what they're going to do
pseudo hawk
Let's make the collab more meta after you can no longer get them, so the people ...
release them again and get double the money
polar obsidian
Let's make the collab more meta after you can no longer get them, so the people ...
But the people who did would feel rewarded for their investment
gentle hawk
Let's make the collab more meta after you can no longer get them, so the people ...
They make a good move doing brs just a trophy chara cus they dont want nier incident anymore, and what now?
eternal kelp
justice for nier
atomic arch
But the people who did would feel rewarded for their investment
as if they weren't already meta
gentle hawk
They just repeated the same mistake they made 5 years ago
polar obsidian
A fair number of people jumped in because of the collab
normal night
justice for nier
Nier was even worse.
pseudo hawk
speaking of collab
eternal kelp
that is why, we need justice
pseudo hawk
was 2b ever good?
eternal kelp
they use it for starting point
all of them are good before these patches come up
a2 can solo different elements
while bein physical
polar obsidian
was 2b ever good?
They were defacto best team for a year right?
normal night
was 2b ever good?
She was ok, A2 pretty much did 90% of the screen time with minor swaps here and there.
gentle hawk
was 2b ever good?
A2 was the main dps, 2b just succ
eternal kelp
the meta of A2 sss, along the normal ranks
tired nexus
was 2b ever good?
Not really?
9S and 2B needed SSS to swap
If you didnt have them at that rank you would just solo with SSS A2
fathom sand
crisp lichen
do i level all skills to the max for each character? or do i focus on specific ones in this game
polar obsidian
Yes if you use them
tired nexus
do i level all skills to the max for each character? or do i focus on specific o...
Depends on who
eternal kelp
what you feel like to be leveled up
gentle hawk
Now i have to consider whether i need to pull dante or not, just hope that they dont make liv an ts amp, that's borderline fk up
normal night
do i level all skills to the max for each character? or do i focus on specific o...
Depends on who but usually the answer is yes, level everything.
polar obsidian
That said I do only level qte for units that I know are dv bots
tired nexus
Now i have to consider whether i need to pull dante or not, just hope that they ...
For now, is seems only phys characters can be TS
pseudo hawk
She was ok, A2 pretty much did 90% of the screen time with minor swaps here and ...
aw man, A2 was seemed cool but they aren't as good as dmc right
crisp lichen
Depends on who but usually the answer is yes, level everything.
okay thanks, im levelling selena pianissimo
tired nexus
aw man, A2 was seemed cool but they aren't as good as dmc right
NieR is dead
Long been dead
polar obsidian
aw man, A2 was seemed cool but they aren't as good as dmc right
They were straight up the meta for a year
Until stigmata came along
tired nexus
They were straight up the meta for a year
No they were being phased out much before Balter tho
atomic arch
aw man, A2 was seemed cool but they aren't as good as dmc right
in relative terms I think they were
normal night
aw man, A2 was seemed cool but they aren't as good as dmc right
Nier died years ago after one of the most boring life cycles of PGR, they were literally meta everywhere for a whole ass year, it sucked.
tired nexus
They stopped running their specific warzone and then Haicma patch came along and introduced weathers to shill the other characters
polar obsidian
Is there a weather guide
tired nexus
Is there a weather guide
Im not sure if there’s an updated one
But there is one
In the pins of #📨・meta-help
Somewhere in there
graceful leaf
Where do I find codes?
gentle hawk
Where do I find codes?
On ur profile, at the most bottom of right hand side
Tho no codes for now
graceful leaf
Yea I've seen how to input them. I don't know where to find codes though
gentle hawk
U need to wait for the next livestream
graceful leaf
Thanks but I mean where do they get announced. Sorry if I'm not explaining properly
tired nexus
Thanks but I mean where do they get announced. Sorry if I'm not explaining prope...
Usually only during livestreams
graceful leaf
For YouTube or twitch?
gentle hawk
For YouTube or twitch?
Yt, i dunno if twitch has it or not
Kuro made an livestream for bianca's patch, but for us probably not
graceful leaf
So I saw there was a bunch for last month. They streamed for the dmc Collab I assume?
gentle hawk
Yea, last month a miracle, tho just to milk dmc
tired nexus
Yea those are probably expired now
crisp lichen
are 4 star weapons worth levelling
tired nexus
are 4 star weapons worth levelling
No
gentle hawk
I hate the fact that kuro loves dmc more than og chara
tired nexus
Get 5star at least
crisp lichen
i’ll try
graceful leaf
From what I've seen yes. Final question, do you guys announce the codes/ Livestreams here when they go up?
gentle hawk
Just port all dmc franchise atp
tired nexus
I hate the fact that kuro loves dmc more than og chara
It was probably the most anticipated patch since CW
gentle hawk
So i can leave happily now
tired nexus
If not eve
fathom sand
So i can leave happily now
will you sell?
fathom sand
~~is that a business opportunity ~~
good luck tho
still estuary
~~is that a business opportunity ~~
good luck tho
Where do ppl usually sel?
Ive been thinking about that for a while now
gentle hawk
Dunno
last hedge
can I still catch up with dmc event I last played in june 22 and managed to draw 30 times in vergil's banner
is it progress or can I not catch up anymore
normal night
can I still catch up with dmc event I last played in june 22 and managed to draw...
Depends on how much story you have left and how many permanent game modes which give BC are left. So what chapter you on?
last hedge
Depends on how much story you have left and how many permanent game modes which ...
I haven't checked yet Im pretty much doing phantom and warzone rn for bc
normal night
Easiest way to see them all, go into Event - Thunderbolt manual and event guide and it will show you all the events with BC related rewards in there.
fathom sand
Where do ppl usually sel?
dunno, usually fafnir does it so you can ask him~
last hedge
am I crazy or is the weekly bc
ivory ermine
Think theres enough leeway for the collab units to have significant use case eve...
You're overestimating their actual performance on those aspects
last hedge
so low unlike back then when I last played
ivory ermine
You're crazy
normal night
so low unlike back then when I last played
If you played during the sync patches, that was 3 patches worth of income in a single patch.
last hedge
If you played during the sync patches, that was 3 patches worth of income in a s...
christ
normal night
If it was years ago, its exactly the same.
last hedge
Is the event for free dante still here
pseudo hawk
damn it i got 57248 on easy level with lilith and namami in ppc. i don't have pyro so i'm struggling
ivory ermine
Is the event for free dante still here
Yes
normal night
Is the event for free dante still here
Yes, collab story chapter 6.
ivory ermine
It's available until the end of the version
last hedge
btw when does this collab end
still estuary
dunno, usually fafnir does it so you can ask him~
Aight ill ask him when i do
normal night
btw when does this collab end
18th.
last hedge
christ
and collabs banner never appear again
I hate dropping this game at a crucial event
normal night
It's possible but don't hold out too much hope.
fathom sand
Aight ill ask him when i do
curious, how much you're selling for?🥹
pseudo hawk
damn it i got 57248 on easy level with lilith and namami in ppc. i don't have py...
is wave a good sub?
fathom sand
considering you spend 400 every patch....
last hedge
Okay last I knew pyroath and commander were just kissing
why the hell are they married now
last hedge
Is dante better than pyroath rn
normal night
pseudo hawk
Is dante better than pyroath rn
no
normal night
r u srs
Depends on Pyroath/Dante investment but Dante is more of the ignition Dps than Fire.
still estuary
curious, how much you're selling for?🥹
Prob 200k yen if i decides to sell my jp acc
last hedge
I see
gentle hawk
Is dante better than pyroath rn
Probably like this, ss0 geiravor > ss3 pyroath > sss dante > ss0 pyroath on fire
still estuary
Ima just keep my glb i dont spend much there and still have something to go back
fathom sand
Prob 200k yen if i decides to sell my jp acc
fathom sand
blud just increased his price....
still estuary
<:ExuHypeStare:685150826724982798>
Its like 1.1k euro
fathom sand
idk jp so dunno
seems kinda deadge
still estuary
It is deadge
gentle hawk
Jp and kr ded
still estuary
But there are also lots of whel willing to shill money just to quit 1 patch after buying
fathom sand
wait so you meant spending 400 dollars each month on both glb+jp?
still estuary
Exactly what happened to my old guild leader account
still estuary
wait so you meant spending 400 dollars each month on both glb+jp?
No only in jp
Ive spend like 200 total for 4 years on glb
fathom sand
~~boosting jp as a german sure is something ~~
still estuary
Gotta help out my fellow fafcist
exotic dagger
still estuary
Cant say the word cuz im gonna get banned but i think you know it
fathom sand
what do you mean?
still estuary
fathom sand
eh? why are we talking about selling accounts
ezra is prolly asleep, also thanks for telling me the rent in berlin and jp
worldly zealot
fathom sand
rin so whel
still estuary
Why tf is rent so expensive 
still estuary
just come in SEA or something
Corpo hq in berlin
fathom sand
But also - one kidney
who needs kidneys anyways 🚬
ivory ermine
True
still estuary
who needs kidneys anyways 🚬
How much can i sell my alcoholic kidneys for
ivory ermine
In the state, kidney is only a myth
pseudo hawk
can someone help me i'm losing to vonngut, at some point i lose access to my ult and my chars get hurt for no reason
fathom sand
How much can i sell my alcoholic kidneys for
how would i know, faf already sold mine before telling me price 🥹
magic jolt
when is walter coming? can my sanity boosters not expire yet
tired nexus
when is walter coming? can my sanity boosters not expire yet
September 18
exotic dagger
rocky cypress
which material is best to use for resonance on memories?
magic jolt
if I reached lvl 83 i automatically clear/claim all in periodic drills even if I havent done them?
ivory ermine
which material is best to use for resonance on memories?
Use the memory resonance material item for the unique skills, simulated battlefield currency for Atk stats
rocky cypress
Use the memory resonance material item for the unique skills, simulated battlefi...
ty
ivory ermine
if I reached lvl 83 i automatically clear/claim all in periodic drills even if I...
Once you reach level 83, any mission that hasn't been completed will be gone along with the rewards
magic jolt
why does it say gain all periodic drill rewards, qualification assessment will be gone yes tho
brittle pewter
Probably like this, ss0 geiravor > ss3 pyroath > sss dante > ss0 pyroath on fire
From my experience Dante SSS is pretty even with SS3 Pyroath in performance I got really similar scores with both
Biggest thing with him though is he doesn't have a sig set
Allows Geravoir to do more damage as a result
viscid sequoia
Allows Geravoir to do more damage as a result
Geiravor do more dmg with shakes bro
brittle pewter
Geiravor do more dmg with shakes bro
but would 2 2pc fire sets do more? if someone else has shakes?
actually hold up I can test it again rn
viscid sequoia
No
Shakes give fire dmg%, atk% and 15% edb
Along with the shred
2 2p fire sets have less buffs
brittle pewter
It's the same from my testing
viscid sequoia
Cuz 4 guin buff has cooldowns
And it's not per ally afaik, the cooldowns is on the buff itself
brittle pewter
And it's not per ally afaik, the cooldowns is on the buff itself
fair lol
fire team has pretty good spread
Especially after leap wata
viscid sequoia
Dante sss is slightly worse than pyro ss3
brittle pewter
Dante sss is slightly worse than pyro ss3
not by much
Not enough for me to notice anyway
ok yeah no guin is just straight up better
unless the rest of your fire team is underinvested anyway
viscid sequoia
Where r u even testing it
brittle pewter
tried it both in trial and warzone
viscid sequoia
There's fire wz?
brittle pewter
ignition technically but fire still gets buffed from it
viscid sequoia
viscid sequoia
If u want to test fire test it on fire zone
U testing it on ignition is the same as u testing off element
Fire still gets dmg penalty on ignition
brittle pewter
ok yeah in dummy training I'm just doing more with guin
This will prob be more noticable too when I SSS wata with leap
Just having that damage buff across the team is huge
exotic dagger
brittle pewter
then again if one has Vera at higher invest (SSS) I can see shake being better
Since then she's the majority of damage
iron mason
ok yeah in dummy training I'm just doing more with guin
U mean 4 guin 4cottie?
brittle pewter
U mean 4 guin 4cottie?
yeah
iron mason
brittle pewter
Since dante runs shake
Geravoir does pretty similar damage anyways thx to the elemental damage buffs
as long as wata isn't like S0 or somethin it's an overall damage increase
leap wata might make guin cottie actually pretty good
Will test it further once walter patch drops
ivory ermine
Words
viscid sequoia
Well idk where ur getting ur tests but just make sure u score close to ss3 pyro max score when the next fire wz comes around
Or else ur arguments just fall flat
iron mason
I had only pyro so cant just put guin in her
brittle pewter
Well idk where ur getting ur tests but just make sure u score close to ss3 pyro ...
I got pretty close to that with my dante SSS score either way
5.8m in hero last fire
Does max score considered R3?
Or R1
iron mason
Well idk where ur getting ur tests but just make sure u score close to ss3 pyro ...
Or times on gwyn boss
brittle pewter
I had only pyro so cant just put guin in her
yeah shake is best option if that's the case
viscid sequoia
I got pretty close to that with my dante SSS score either way
Didn't u get 5.5
brittle pewter
Didn't u get 5.5
I beat that score
viscid sequoia
Or times on gwyn boss
Ppc doesn't rlly mean sht tbh
brittle pewter
I later got 5.8 in my own time
craggy imp
Blasphemy
wet bluff
It means poo poo
brittle pewter
Dante pretty good solid for fast ppc clears since he can just kind of do his rot off rip for off field
Vergil way better in that front tho
viscid sequoia
U don't need off field for ppc except ib
iron mason
Ppc doesn't rlly mean sht tbh
Yeah i forget everything 1 rot or 2 rot anyway
viscid sequoia
2 rot vera pretty much kills gwyn
brittle pewter
2 rot vera pretty much kills gwyn
fair
just run another amp to wumbo boost her
I might try that next time
viscid sequoia
What's 2.32.32 ignition score on hero
brittle pewter
What's 2.32.32 ignition score on hero
pretty high from what I remember
atleast compared to other teams at that invest
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
FINALLY AT LONG LAST
I'm gonna have fun with this
ember panther
I smell whel
iron mason
Ohh remembering that
I had plan now 3s oblivion
(No matter the powercreep to me cuz its mostly for collection)
Do u think i could use voucher to instead just bp shard?
I had 68k voucher rn
lunar whale
<:LivWow:706377042220023828> I'm gonna have fun with this
Is this another whel menu
ember panther
Is this another whel menu
excess shards get converted to that currency when you get shards for a char past s+
so basically
yes
lunar whale
excess shards get converted to that currency when you get shards for a char past...
I see
ember panther
different ones for A and S so u can't cheese
lunar whale
different ones for A and S so u can't cheese
Wait can't you pull it off with voucher-spent shards
Although that'd be concerningly expensive
ember panther
Wait can't you pull it off with voucher-spent shards
yes
lunar whale
Damn
Lilith got a new job
ember panther
I think the exchange rate is like 3:1 or 5:1 tho
lunar whale
Still, that's better than 15k for dupe and sniping for the correct banner
Just slowly grind out vouchers
ember panther
the char you're after would be powercrept by the time you get them up 💀
lunar whale
I mean, it takes like 2-3 years to powercreep a unit
Yeah I got time
ember panther
imagine it is 5:1 that'd be like 4020 vouchers for a single relevant shard
again can't remember tho
lunar whale
imagine it is 5:1 that'd be like 4020 vouchers for a single relevant shard
The hardest part is the 300 shards I'd need for an SSS+ 🥀
ember panther
The hardest part is the 300 shards I'd need for an SSS+ 🥀
you're cooked
smoldered
fried
lunar whale
Yeah that's not gonna be fun
iron mason
Its 3:1
lunar whale
With how strong Dark is rn, Lilith ain't getting powercrept anytime soon
ember panther
ok so 2412 for 1 frag
ember panther
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1201136888556298313.gif?quality=lossless&name=...
tiniest shi ever I can't see what it's supposed to be
ember panther
brittle pewter
ok so 2412 for 1 frag
honestly not too bad
ember panther
honestly not too bad
thas pretty bad
viscid sequoia
man ignition is so bad on hero
craggy imp
polar obsidian
Also veronica sucks
like im relatively optimistic that they'll change her drastically
at least appearance wise and vfx wise
kit feels like smth they dont really budge on
iron mason
Theres good zone in hero?
viscid sequoia
idek how i got 10m
iron mason
Cuz u a dalao
For Casual sperpective like me seen u had dmg hax
ivory ermine
I'm still too broke to reach anything better than Hero tier
I don't even know how I would build both Scire and Crepuscule from the scratch in the next update
polar obsidian
I cant justify scire at all
ivory ermine
You can
It's pretty simple
Just drop another 50 bucks to this game for more monthlies and battle passes
Problem solved
polar obsidian
yeah I guess I'll have her for at least the length of time I spent with alisa
considering she's sigged up and leapt
humble torrent
Punishing Gray Raven add platform Nintendo Switch 2
ivory ermine
Nintendo Brick 2
polar obsidian
with my luck, they'll announce dark tank right when I have her near to SS3
brittle pewter
And who should I pull?
Never pull on arrival
native granite
Never pull on arrival
Only pull if I have enough to immediately get the guy?
lime oriole
And who should I pull?
Definitely a pull. missing out on vergil or dante is extremely lethal toward your account as the units are announced to have 1 element and 2 affix effects each. not only that, the two characters mechanisms are only locked behind ss0, which beyond that point is just damage and small rotation changes. Based on their skill description, they could change warzone benchmark forever and might even make ppc onslaught look like a playground.
lime oriole
Only pull if I have enough to immediately get the guy?
never pull there
proud jay
Definitely a pull. missing out on vergil or dante is extremely lethal toward you...
cool copypasta
im taking that
lime oriole
im taking that
im taking you
proud jay
(FYI, everything farel just said in that textbox is BS)
lime oriole
die
lime oriole
thorny stream
Is Dante given free from event? Should I roll him if he free?
craggy imp
im taking you
ivory ermine
Is Dante given free from event? Should I roll him if he free?
No
thorny stream
So he not free, okay I will roll him now
lime oriole
thorny stream
Oh, okay I will only roll Vergil then
lime oriole
"free" but you still need to pull him to make him viable
thorny stream
If I want more efficient, should I roll Dante 1st and get the his shard for upgrade or don't bother and just unlock Dante from event?
ivory ermine
It's the same thing
You will get his character card from the event for free
It doesn't matter if you pull first or get him for free first
thorny stream
So it's not like past event that if I unlock characters 1st from event I wasted my shard
thorny stream
Okay, thanks for answer, I will roll Vergil then and just get Dante from event
craggy imp
mambone
lunar rampart
Mamborange
strong bane
Is Ex Precise Attack a good ressonance for Dante?
lunar rampart
Like the atk+15?
cerulean anvilBOT
strong bane
Like the atk+15?
ya, upper one
wind mist
Chat
strong bane
cuz I mean variant, is there a specific one I should be choosing or choosing some bad like the red one
wind mist
Veronica is a ignition afix right
lunar rampart
Yes
lunar rampart
cuz I mean variant, is there a specific one I should be choosing or choosing som...
All the atks are good on the top slot
wind mist
Its say burn
lunar rampart
On the bottom slot you'd want the signature move thougj
wind mist
That why am askin lmao
lunar rampart
But it's better to have your dante fully resonated with random resonances first rather than perfect resonances and not full resonated
strong bane
But it's better to have your dante fully resonated with random resonances first ...
you can swal a resoance or its permanent?
craggy imp
brazen talon
verogatti
craggy imp
Verooom
gentle hawk
Its say burn
Burn is fans translation/cn name for ignition
wind mist
Ahhh
bitter heath
We're not hoyo
Damn
marble path
eager whale
Hello
proud jay
bye
craggy imp
OMG
eager whale
I am new and I just wanna ask if I can still get a copy of Vergil and Dante before the Collab ends, I only started today idk if I can make it
calm radish
<:KareninaGasp:910236491362488370>
marble path
proud jay
I am new and I just wanna ask if I can still get a copy of Vergil and Dante befo...
if you reach lv40, you can do an Event quest that gives you dante for free
For vergil, you can only pull him. and the pity is 60 (costs 15k tickets)
very doable
eager whale
if you reach lv40, you can do an Event quest that gives you dante for free
For v...
Is reaching lvl 40 doable before the Collab ends?
loud patio
if you reach lv40, you can do an Event quest that gives you dante for free
For v...
10.5k
misinfo strikes again
lavish silo
2 weeks left too
marble path
I don't remember
craggy imp
30%
craggy imp
no
craggy imp
wind mist
There's already sticker of it dang
proud jay
Is reaching lvl 40 doable before the Collab ends?
its doable within a day or two
and you have 13 days
eager whale
Also uhh who do I pick
eager whale
its doable within a day or two
Oh thank you
distant valley
Also uhh who do I pick
eager whale
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1383785490360172584/141217673020...
Thanks
meager anchor
do you need to rank up CUBs at S rank? if so how do you do that?
undone oxide
wind mist
Is nanami cub a must
wind mist
But that huge
fathom sand
yeah its huge
fathom sand
if you pull nanami cub, there's 80-20 to risk iirc
wind mist
Pfft
fathom sand
unless you mean the recycle method, if you're using that then sure get it
wind mist
Ya know im the luckiest person
fathom sand
then why not just pull all cubs
wind mist
unless you mean the recycle method, if you're using that then sure get it
Recycle method?
wind mist
then why not just pull all cubs
Well that another problem
5k is allat of bc right
I still need other people statement
WHAT
Oh dang that video
Nevamind
That kinda expensive
fathom sand
cheaper than tix
wind mist
also cw cub<:worryWeirdSit:919139670657474610>
Isnt cw cub good for support and gathering enemy?
keen remnant
sweet sand
I am new and I just wanna ask if I can still get a copy of Vergil and Dante befo...
it’s better to skip DMC and prioritize Nanami: Startrail but if you really want the brothers, yeah go for it - you can always swipe to fix your account
pseudo hawk
When is veronica dropping?
cobalt hornet
When is veronica dropping?
No
grizzled sequoia
veronica has always been a ppc boss, u sure ur not tripping?
craggy imp
i tripped
grizzled sequoia
trip harder
magic jolt
When is veronica dropping?
Not sure, but soon
Her style is kinda.... well.. depends on your taste, but I hate it
craggy imp
magic jolt
Did not realize she likes riding cars
grizzled sequoia
i wasnt expecting it to spread here as well
magic jolt
Bro..
stable siren
She can ride my car all day if you know what I mean
magic jolt
Yes we know
stable siren
grizzled sequoia
i did some irreparable damage
craggy imp
can i have the nanami dying gif
magic jolt
craggy imp
ty
grizzled sequoia
i cant save the plaps because my discord lags the hell out
magic jolt
grizzled sequoia
i have a veroplapchiko ver, but obv its not safe to post it here
craggy imp
fathom sand
i cant save the plaps because my discord lags the hell out
wait yours too?
grizzled sequoia
yea
fathom sand
grizzled sequoia
only nanadead doesnt lag mine