#📨・general-help
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Is that what the hp r normally
Depends on rhe boss
It ranges from 7m all the way to 35m nezt patch
That’s a big difference wth
1 boss doesnr have a weakness
Even nanami could done under 20s hell bad case sceranio
The rest have 2 for each element and 1 for each affix except for ignition and glow so far
Paking whel 
guys pls help I can't do it properly even on 16 tries rn is there an easy way?? pls tell me if you know
Nah whel is 12-14s
jester as in lilith? best way is to dodge
24s > means whel 
Ok im a pak whel
I scored 2:28 on hell
no no it's the "gwynplaine" boss
This too hard
Some ppl are doing that in advanced 

holy legs
give lilith a leap and this attack 
wdym??
its a joke, fr tho best way is to dodge
it's not the card woman who's name idk yet...
what??
I'm currently on 17 try now...
They meant
oh
lmao

it's gwynplaine, and just... kill him before he does anything, always works 
but how do I kill him...
he does something like...
ohh, it's story, not ppc
every 2 seconds
then just dodge his attacks, either by direct dodge or by the recoil jumpback from her skills
YES I MEANT THE STORY DUDE
what's the recoil jumpback?? is it the 2 skill??
I feel like i use ishmael so infrequently, i forget shes damn good
don't remember which of her skills does that, but if you hold her orb and wait a little before releasing, she does a jump back after the pew pew
I kinda regret getting vergil to sss
this doesn't have iframes thou, so you can only dodge with it by avoiding the clown's attack completely
meaning you have to get out of range with it
rip all the selena skippers
anyone in here also regret it?
hope u get hit by reality now with monzano out
Luna,Vera,pyroath,nanami, alisa which one should I ss
Then she’ll never come back until 2027
wait that was a thing for her?? and how do I do that tho??
Which do you recommend to get here?
like no cap hes kinda trash even at sss
did you skip her tutorial stages? 
Nezt glacio wz after is delayed by 4 years as well I heard
I have vergil ,starail, alpha,lilith and feral
sss?
you planning to?
...yeah I just skipped everything for the extra black cards there...
Aight no way i get to sss at lvl commandand lvl 60 😂
Definitely
don't just pull for Dante and get him ss and their weapon + sig
bruh, then do those in celica class 
also, if you need a video example of the story fight, this doc got all story stages
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lw0sWZVfXFh-YZ9O2qxZCpU6UW7dpCS34i773bzAkcs/edit?gid=0#gid=0
not much different from ss I regret doing it
So according to your experience who to use the voucher on 😂
YESSSSS OK I'M IN 👀
Lilith ss since she's close or alpha slowly slowly
if your gonna use vergil then echo
those are all mine 
I am literally playing the game for Vergil
I take 1$ for the advertisement 
you also get another copy of echo from dorm

same
Its for uniframes
Pretend that its not there
Lol ok
Why do uniframes exist if they're that bad 😂
I found someone who sent phishing links, he spammed in world chat all channels. Banned this account.
Who to ss
Man 600 rainbow cards for free😭
Nanami startrail imo
been trying to figure out if this is even possible dont ask why i am so into this
quickly, visit that totally not suspicious site
It wasn’t a scam, I got 600 rc and he gave me a Ferrari 
What’s nanami upper resonance any +15 attack?
when does jetavie coating goes into the shop?
been saving it but doesnt seem to appear yet
that is not very recommended meta wise but since this isnt #📨・meta-help , sure go ahead
can some one help me, i have dlt on my vera but still missing 1 orb after first ult to do 2nd ult
the pink coating? when its
sale ends, usually in 2 patches of release
you need dlt + deer orb for that
what is deer orb
the deer cub, use one 3 ping on the previous char before switching to vera to get 1 free blue orb on her
just don't forget to select the blue orb passive skill on the cub before trying
tyty
Hi sillies of PGR
Which set should I give to Bambinata?
I wanna build her since I don't have other options for an ice dps (yeah, I didn't got Qu cuz I didn't had at that time Koleido)
Wanshi is free
Hey I'm trying to finish my lightning team, what's the best memories for feral 21?
Which one for Selena
Doesn’t really change anything since his dmg wil always be miles ahead of Bambi’s
hi guys, which i choose? pianissimo ss3 or wait to get geiravor?
4cottie for phys and 4klen for glacio
Ok
Alright if u say so
I'm just so bad in his combos and for example, idk how to use him in Warzone and its kinda slow
Bambi is not gonna be any better 
He's one of the easier characters to use tho
Commandants, i need some help with this..
2x3p, hold red, spam red or hold ba and ult
Probably base S they always say hes hard and then say they have him base S 
U don't even need fast inputs
Ah idk base s 
Iirc just build up enough ult energy and then stand far away and ult
O h, ty
Well
I found him pretty hard in fast dynamics contest
Not knowing very well his combos and stuff makes it hard
I have Koleido to buff him
Maybe I just need that? Idk xD thanks btw
What are good memories for 21 feral?
4 Da Vinci, 2 Ein or 2 Guin if tank have Ein
Startrail
Got her alr
Pyroath or selena
Then wait next patch for gera
@pastel crater what do you mean when you say "if tank"? Can 21 be a tank?
I mean if startrail (tank) have 2 Einstein memory.
does anyone have a proper guide for vergil ts wz?
When is that exactly?😭 I might pull accidentally..
@pastel crater gotcha I do have her as main tank. Thanks!
In less than 4w

Man dmc is way too long
lmk!
Have wz run but not guide
You'll have to look and see the rot for urself
Ss0 vergil
Idk about higher rank
#punishinggrayravenglobal #ultimaslash #trueslash #virgil #pgrwarzone #legendwarzone #hanying #echo #pgrgameplay #pgr_cn #dmc
@pastel crater when I get Feral 21's 6* what harmony would you recommend?
Guinevere
Dv guin or dv guin eins
Of this I won’t say “eaisest” but more so faster way to get pulls? I’m really close to pity (54/60)
Golden Vortex
what should I upgrade to make her 6k bp I already maxed available skills that can I upgrade even the memories I'm already upgrade it to lvl 45, I just want to get the bike haha
Memory Resonance
what skill should I put on it?

Dont use that, just randomize
aight thank you
is this fine to use?
Yeah, even the simu coins is ok
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
4x Patton
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
What skills do I equip and lvl?
Hey so I just noticed that I got something called a 'weapon coupon' at some point, and it allows me to choose a free 6* weapon. Who would you guys recommend getting it for? My S rank character's that don't have sigs are : Hanying, Startrail, pianissimo, and Vera geravoir. (Though it doesn't look like Vera's is available to choose)
star rail ofc
Is there any website where we can see infos of CN updates, like the units, weapons, and cubs
this is the best detailed Glaciation guide. if anyone needs https://youtu.be/MhBqMuKv2iQ?si=wIEPWP4Y7odTFbv6
#pgrcc
Twitch: https://twitch.tv/Klaige
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/klaige.bsky.social
With Alisa: Echo's leap skill we now have a full Glaciation team available in Punishing Gray Raven. In this guide I go over the Glaciation effect and how to utilize it. How Echo's new leap works, and how the entire Glaciation team functions and maxi...
For the glacio ppc boss:
Wanshi 4pc sig 4pc chen
Selena 4pc sig 4pc klenova
Alisa 4pc dv 4pc guin.
Right?
What's the best item to spend vouchers on?
shards
character shards, and absolutely nothing else.
your priority will be:
SS3 Wanshi > SS3 Lilith > SSS0 Wanshi > SSS0 Lilith
why u asking if u have 2k vouchers 
that's like 2 shards
How good is discord in trueslash content?
how much bc does Bianca patch give
if u invest 30k bc she's lowest mid at best
@proud jay which one is wanshi? Is that the lucid dreamer one?
so, not really just ignore ts content if u no virgin
Is she a good character? She’s by far my most invested character and one of my favorites, I just dint know how to judge if a character is doing high dmg or not
I have virgin but I'm contemplating whether to get his sig because of selena wedding skin 
nope
Lilith, who is also free (and who you have) massively outclasses her in every way
Also, the character releasing next patch (Bianca Crepuscule) will directly replace Jetavie, as shes also a DPS
wdym most invested
lilith is already more invested than jetavie
why didn't they put a discount on the sigs too 
Jetavie SSS+ means basically nothing, because it was given away for free anyway
cause this is a gacha game
And they do not like you
They like your money 
you can team her up with Lilith and 21 in Warzone
I meant as In she has the highest bp, she’s not my strongest or anything, I currently play all characters as dps because I don’t know who’s a support and who’s dps, I just play characters that are pretty/do dmg, currently my strongest is either Lilith or Selena
Ah
I’ve been trying to push all my characters bp for I can do stronghold auto clear cause I can’t do it myself…
dw about stronghold;
u know u can hold it till u get stronger 
I jsut wanted to do it cause I’m trying onto farm bp, I know I should hold it off I jsut wanted nanami
Do I save for Bianca or pull for someone?
Not guaranteed so just save
Hi, nadte is still obtainable?
isnt anni banner 100%
yes
Tyvm
Think they meant I might not have enough pulls
ah
@worldly zealot @pearl laurel BROOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭
I'M GONNA SLEEP GOOD TONIGHT HOLY SHEEEEEEET
23 TRIES AND A DREAM
u dont have 15k anyways
so might as well chill
Do I just wait for Bianca? https://huaxu.app/na/players/11745344/characters
Explore the 50 characters of Libero from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Was considering grabbing ss3 hanying but idt I rly care abt TS anymore
No you uninstall and throw your pc at the wall
wdym who
You can do whatever you want
im a new player
you have to get him to sss+ for this to work and summon on fate banner for the extra rate up
also his cub to sss+

then after also summon his weapon and get it like 5 more times
Should take her memory out or is usefull yet?
anyone don't use her was meta character? Her memory will get out of her
A ranks are not meta
She was useful for me until i got nanami startrail
a ranks only useful in guild stuff
the Events?
guild siege
war zone? Clash Reflection? don't need every character? only meta? can't wait nanami be powercreeped lol
game will eos before nana gets crept
How does weapon resonance work and should I spend it as shown here?
if u have 6 star yamato, keep one 5star for later
basically lock it so u dont scrap it by mistake
I have 6 Star Yamato
who should I get again on this selector?
Wait why keep one 5 star if have a 6 star yamato?
So i really want vergil but im new to the game, what's the best way to grind out black cards?
Please help🥲
eos?
so when dmc dies u can sacrifice it for reso for better characters 
The events, weeklies and the rougelike gamemodes like tundra and matrix
Thank you :3
Rouge is yellow tix not bc
Ah you're right
roguelikes is event tickets, so its useless for dmc
Play the story then it has some bc
If want raw bc
Interludes(character stories)
And story
for interludes u need plenty of chapters to be done
No
yes
Just tought out story
U need the a chara or reach stori stages
Can just watch a recap later
Or do the story again
one of examples i can show
Hi, if ishmael has better upgrades, she is a better fire tank?
Should I save both then and how does sacrifice it work? Bit confused cause I do have the level 6 Yamato
basically once dmc get replaced by newer units u will be able to sacrifice 6 star yamato for resonance on other weapon; if u dont have 5 star weapon u cant do that
and if u scrap all 5 star dmc weapons and dmc goes away, u wont get that ever again
Ss pyroath or vera
Why would I want to sacrifice 6 star yamato? Vergil is pretty good character though
when it says fire dmg increases in wz or ppc does ignition dmg also increase? or only fire
now he is, in the end he will be powercrept in around 1year by newer units
Pyro needed for plasma and fire
Ok
that's how gacha game works man, newer units replace older ones
still doesnt mean you cant have fun with it
and collab units dont live long
I see i guess
Idk when i started tw just to try qu
I able to do good amount of them
Not all but enought to fast reach qu and her sig
.
approximately how many patch to scour enough vouchers will it take to sss epitah?
u need like chapter 17 done; few floating records and all extra stories done for all interludes ; and lets be real; skipping 11c-17c is a warcrime
Affix buffs in wz and ppc only apply to the affix
so no then :(
u have everyone on the meta team sheet?
Oh wait didnt check that yet. Is the file here on thr server ?
I see
I warcrimed
Dang i dont have a lot of them. Only the lightning team
I skipped 11c
Lightning weak exppc
Lightning does 2x
Glow does 1.75x
Plasma/others do 1x
plasma weak PPC
plasma 2x
glow 1.75x
lightning 1x
lightning wz
lightning 1.3x
glow 0.7x
plasma/other elements 0.3x
so as u can see; ignition does 0.3x dmg in fire wz
ppl here wouldve advised to not pull for this banner but since u already sunk 20 pulls into it
idk now
Why the enemy suddenly have super high defend
probably either pyroath, hanying or ishmael
these 3 from the anni banner
got it @tardy jackal
welcome in beginner bracket where u have to use right element
The zones get higher diff wave to wave
I deal 103 dmg in wave 1
did u use the correct element
can i clear vonnegut cr with just luna?
If u get just lvl 80
No suprise
U now get out of baby mode
In the second round dark flow I use Lucia vera dark flow. I don't have star rail and the highest dmg I dealt is 10000
Level 80 ss max level everything
darkflow wont help u in dark; use lilith instead
should i buy echo shards from voucher shop to get ss3? im at ss2 with 4 shards away from ss3
do you have wanshi ss3
yes and lilith ss3
Dark flow is not count dark
U need to deal dark dmg
Fk
her ss3 skill isnt that good tbh but if you're already ss2 might as well 
lightning wz
lightning 1.3x
glow 0.7x
plasma/other elements 0.3x
for dark wz translates into
dark wz:
dark 1.3x
everything else 0.3x
i can also use skulls ig but idk how worthed is that
do you have other characters to rank up with skulls? if not, its probably better as you should save vouchers for wata next patch
i have wata that i need to get ss and walter but she comes in 3 weeks anyways
If u had lilith she will ur best friend on dark content
When u get the new bianca
U get a tm8 for her
he's getting leap next patch so he's going to be in voucher shop also, so if possible you should save your vouchers to get him 3s
i need to get lilith and wanshi 3s first tbh
is qu worthed if i can get 3s wanshi?
if not i might be able to get ss3 wata with the selector+skulls
No pull for bianca
Unless I kill myself for this
Just lilith it
ss3 wata before sss lilith and wanshi in ur case
btw qu from selector or wata ?
i heard qu is terrible to use so idk if i should get her
I haven't finish this yet
Selena is ass to play ngl
If u want bianca will need
honestly its a gamble, since qu just got most likely funeral skin on cn

wait isnt her funeral skin out in global already?
aka shes getting replaced soon?
she might, who knows
can 3s wanshi solo?
qu is cool but honestly for practicality's sake wata is better rn
I would like to announce my REAL retirement from pgr
yea 3s wanshi solos pretty chill
u are f2p right
no spending included
dolphine i get both bp's plus monthly passes and sometimes i get packs from the shop
so u gonna max out bps next patch?
I will miss u dev of liv ai
is next patch double?
or just buy once and be done
The LivAI devs are Zexous and ennvyx
i buy all bps so if theres double next patch im going to buy all 4
Not u 
I am the creation not the creator
What's the difference between fate and normal research
I see
I am the messenger not the sender
u bing chilling, u might be able to sss wata before wanshi or lilith 
Elellalalel bing ellalalell bing
and still have 30k vouchers available
accounting u use selector on wata instead of qu
damn that sounds good tbh
tbh i can also get wanshi and lilith from ppc shop
wtf
i spent last patch
one gamba one guaranteed
my plan is walter ss wata ss3 with selector+ppc shop and then vouchers on lilith,wanshi and wata sss depending on how many i would have left @gritty shore is that good?
don't go for fate unless you whel
Oh ok
i whel for 781 rcs last patch💀
u going for 1k next patch?
its gonna be sig up to gera
i used the voucher on wanshi's sig(1k is cub selector)
yeah probably going over 1k in total
oh i wont spend that much

probably only 300 rc's
is it buying or spending rc's event?
Spending
I have 400 ready plus more to come

If that is the case u might want wata or echo sig from it
I dont remember what each one has as offrates
And what offrates walter has
Ss vera or luna
Gera
Ok
in what order should i use my ppc skulls?should i do walter wata lilith wanshi?in that order or does wanshi sss has priority over lilith since i have no qu?
Amp Ishmael uses Sothoth or DV?
sothoth used in tankmael otherwise she doesnt get shred
check dm
Ampmael is whatever? 
i suppose
does anyone have the chart with the next few weeklies? i lost the link
ppc + wz weekly gives 1050bc
CR week gives 210event tickets
norman week gives 500bc
daily gives 30bc
i meant the nodes/bosses
Wth is this suppose to mean
nothing
I hettt mah luck😭
Can anyone help me with damage or tell me if I am just straight up playing wrong, I feel like I am struggling in anything thats middle to endgame content
Ok bye horse breeder
What content
Like kinda all of it I just did a run of curses waves and I kinda got killed the entire way through along with war zone and phantom cage I can only reliably get through intermediate
roguelikes are easily doable with just trials if u know how to play each mode;
in tundra u dont fight at all
.
War zone u gotta use right element
Ppc:
Advanced: omega easy no questions asked
Ultimate: u gotta match the affix/element otherwise u can try to use highest invest team
If u struggle pre advanced ppc then idk what to tell u 
Uninstall
Or actually learning the game would be good start
Ok
How come the story isn’t completed?
cuz you didnt finish it
I did
Ohhhh
Ooops, my bad. I had to reload game
There was a mass in it didn’t show before
I’ve been using the second active skill of motorbolt since I got it. Should I switch off of it because I realize that the ability to ride motorbolt as CW is probably slightly worse than using her hold dodge attack normally
you're using crimson weave on field?
someone get this man a startrail 🙏
I have star trail and I mostly use her. Don’t worry
it's to the point that startrail does so much more damage than cw that it's not even worth bringing cw on field
I’m just thinking about when I ever decide to use CW for the hell of it, if it’s better to just stop riding the motorcycle
dw you'll have to use her so much in fantasia / cursed waves that you'll never want to use her again 🙂
Been there done that. All I have left is 10 more levels of derived from matrix
By the way what’s the point of the attacker class if all future units, no matter the class, will deal more damage?

cause the attackers will deal more
nanaknight's only the lightning dps rn cause the other lightning units are BUNS
same with lilith
Hello, someone can say me who is the BEST of these characters please??and who obtain from the aniversary,i think on Luna Oblivion,is good option or who i should select??Please
pretty much this selector are all old units, but you can decide
Ok thanks
And a question
From the aniversary Who IS the better option?
what team you gonna make? but Imo, nanami startrail is a good start
Why does everyone want Cottie?
Faster access to ult
Thanks you,but i already have it from the Basic banner
oh good
I dont know if made a nihilator team or fire
Is better Luna Oblivion or Lucia Pyroath?
What memories do you recommend for Vergil? I seen a different opinions where one recommend 4 Patton + 2 Cottie and other 4 Patton + 2 Condelina
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
4x Patton
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
4 patton 4 cottie is his default build
Where do you put other 2?
There might be different builds for ppc depending on the situation but most of the time you'll use this
Harmony if you have 6 star weapon
Does any slot Cottie will do? Or have I had to buy Cottie of specific number (1-6)?
Put it in bottom slot
456
you need signature weapon to prog the harmony
I don't really know about this system and I'm not sure if I had resources for it, so I need some advice
I did get weapon from gacha
Crimson Abyss is pretty fun. Especially with her leap
But it’s up to you if you want to invest in that. Cause she’s definitely not meta either way
soon im free of lilith dark 
How to do this Harmony? I think it is locked
what commandment level are you?
because you need lvl 80 to unlock harmony
Wait wha-
I did not play game for a long time, I think around Nier collab was the last time
and a lot of things changed since then
may be it was there but I forgot
To start saving 
isnt this 5 star
yes but do not buy if you want to get wanshi or lilith shards
who is wanshi and lilith, i just started playing this game for dante lmao
Wanshi is the ice tank and lilith is dark amplifier.
Sorry.....what's this about catching his gun with Wanshi?
How you feel being a noob?
Wanshi and Qu skins are so cool, but I already bricked on dmc 
Already sss vergil should dante stay at ss3 or should I pull him one more time
if you know? this where when you make mistakes after mistakes after mistakes after mistakes after mistakes after mistakes after mistakes
why PGR can't stop you have trauma?
and wrong chat again
should be in gereral chat
Do we get s rank selector after DMC?
Does PGR give away any card codes?
yes
Ok thanks you
Nah
Nobody in that group is meta
What is best memory for Crimson Weave?
is Da Vinci good or bad?
I was told to use Da Vinci in past for her
do u have nanami startrail?
Yes
do u have luna oblivion?
no
u have feral 21?
Yes
put davinci on feral 21
And what should put on CW?
So need her 6 star weapon for that?
In which case I don't have
the weapon is free
weapon is free in thunderbolt
manual
Well yeah I know that. I just brought it up since leaping a character is an additional investment
Nothing too expensive but I still think it’s something to consider
only leaps worth the cost are echo and wata tbh (and maybe cw if you have her 3s)
Objectively true
But I absolutely love the new skills CA gets with her leap so I think that one is worth it as well
ult1 

Very important to keep in mind, I'm new and I'm freaking out about all the rewards they give.
I just think leaped CA is neat
how much bc will Bianca patch give
what should i be using my vouchers on
Get wanshi's
How many parts to the dmc story
15 missions
only challenege left for me anyone got a video or something i be just pressing buttons so i dont understand whichb attack
How do I get Alpha to bp 6500 if all her gear and skills are max level?
resonance
Ah right ill skip cuz 15 unlicked with some taunt and i cba to redo 14 so needed to check how much i missed out on
What resonance skills are best for her memory set then? 
For the base banner my pity is 31/40 do I try to do single pulls?
who are you trying to get in base banner?
No
i mean it wasnt even me who wrote that so
Basic attack below 3s
it was someone here who told me
Selena the physical one
So dont spread misinfo...
smile
Have geravoir?
Geragoat
how am i supposed to know it was mis info when i was mis infoed myself in this very channel
anyways thanks for the heads up
She'll be in member target next patch
I plan to try to get her best team and her weapon
Nah dw just good to make sure ofc
Tis just her main source of damage is her hold ba
btw what's your huaxu look like?
What’s huaxu?
https://huaxu.app/na/players easy way to show off account
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
What shards should I pick?
I’m already working on the final character for my lighting team
Echo
can't you sss echo for free?
The final one is the most important..
pulling them through anniversary?
The rest are useless and also sss for f2p takes AGES
Imma do single pulls on the base banner 31/40 so I can try to get Selena early
While you can both Wanshi and Lilith have larger priority
No the other one under thunderbolt research 

Selena is an attacker tho
I need new viucher unit asap
I’m going for Selena pianissimo bc I like her a lot
Aight yeah fair then Echo it is
In other words, very reliant on team

yeah best one to get shards for rn
Unfortunately ohys requires decent invest cuz u cannot zaza or anythin
At the very least her best team is free
I just need like 7 more shards for SSS Alpha and then I'm moving to Lilith
Still need hanying-
Need sig for her to be good tho
Alpha over lilick
She doesn't need dlt to work either but it helps
Yes.
I go for who I like more first.
Fair ig-
Luna is already SSS
Vergil is SSS
now Alpha will be SSS.
Also Legend is funny as heck.
feels like damm Westerner
So glad i didnt promote
Been there twice and it was enough
Fortunately dudnt have enough merit this time
Just do 2 zones heavy mald and save ur best teeam for sunday if u wanna retain
Also calling me a Whale is a bit of a stretch
I've spent like 10$ on this game total
I didn't whale. I just "simp"-ly bricked my account
And I do not regret it what so ever.
ngl I'm glad DMC didn't brick my account
Simply bricked😭
I've been saving ever since I heard of the announcement
Im glad i skipped dmc-
GOAT
I'm trying to SS3 Dante at least.
20 pity rn
Will not stop pulling on his banner till Collab ends
Dante is fun but vurgin feels clunky
his ss3 actually pretty good
Ofc virgin more valuable rn
Vergil feels so good to play ngl
wdym it's literally dmc 5 Vergil lol
My goat
Idk he doesnt feel as smooth as pgr characters but thats imo
solacetune is the one that feels clunky for me
Pick matter here?
Vergil literally can just teleport right in front of an enemy
Oh yeah 100% she is aswell
Does not matter lol
You won't be u sing any of the 4 if you're lucky
unless you like Liv or Vera like me that is.
He feels kind of mid in mob zones tho from my limited testing
Idk i dont enjoy him but its better for my bank
Might just need to lab him more
Yeah Ultima Slash and Grouping aren't things that go together.
More for the mid walter frame ig🥀
That's what we calling Crepescule?
💀
I mean full honesty here dude
She will have reruns...
DMC collab wont
Hence I aint too sorry about spending it all on the collab
SS0 works honestly with dlt
She gets like 5-6mil ss0 6-7mil ss3 and then fkin 3s gets 10+mil based in what ive seen
Vergil can actually generate stacks
same deal as Solacetune then?
Ive seen like 17mil runs on cn
pretty much Vergil just scales really hard with stacks
Yeah exactly
I am half tempted to learn a proper meta rotation for ts Vergil just for this WZ and see how high it goes
I was doing DMC V combos last WZ and got to 3.7 mil in phys zone.
Wasthinking about her ss3 but doesnt seem worth a whole character for 1mil points
Do it.
The power of SSS compells you-
I was able to get 5.8m with Vergil for me
In Dante's challenge why does Ballard feel so much harder than the other challenges with Dante and Vergil?
idk dude.
I was having fun with him
Usually blocking everything with Royal Guard and then doing hat tricks.
If anyone wants to fund me 3s walter feel free to
me too
Whats the TS rotation?
thou keep in mind I am on an SS0 Echo SS0 Solacetune R1 DLT both
That was my physical warzone from last week
SSS Vergil with R1 DLT.
I want that 3s but ngl looks like walter gon be sub dps below 3s
Currently labbing trueslash out for mob zones
oh so you did Beowolf
I'm at BP but there is no way can take him out in 180 seconds.
BBBBBBASED
God I cannot explain how good they made these characters for the collab man
It feels sooooo good to play them
I got no idea man.
Ss0 r1 walter vs 3s r3 lilick🥀
Wait sub dps walter?
3s lilick better
Honestly thou she will still do more than Lamia does atm...
walter is just glow dps
Seems that will be the case
God I wish that were me...specifically with her Famine skin...
howabout ss3?
still lilick
They put ALL her damage in SSS?!
There seems to be a thing where amps are the dps for main elements and attackers sub dps. But attackers are dos for affixes instead
Yeah thats what im saying
they are making it that way
Why im dissapointed
I actyally kinda like that tbh
Wait so you're saying in order to improve my dark wz score I should spend more time on Lilith and less time on Lamia........
Amps are my fav class
always has been
but Lamia is so gorgeous thou...
WHAT EVEV KINDA QUESTION
this is general help so its up to you
Lilick HEAVILY out dps lamia
Imagine asking that in meta help💀
It's why I don't go there... too many peeps that think you're born with knowledge of the game

i would've flame u if this was meta help
I've not seen much of that
If you ask a question to a meta help peep you'll rarely get good advice and just get barrated for not getting the meta units
I still think half can't read

Glad walter is coming tho
ye
Lilith will become more fun to play when u can actually rotate aswell
No offense but when someone asks about a budget dark tank to cope with, the answer isn't to spend for Karenina SS3+ and her Sig r1

all cope option should be luna+any amp/tank
I mean if you get SSS XXI it can suffice for the time being
Zaza goated, i think they meant with walter tho
just use her as a QTE bot
oh walter...
Yes Walter.
just ish that kekw
I am gonna focus on Lilith fragments after getting the last few Alpha frags
So the tank is the only thing I am curious about.
And again, I don't plan to go for Scire cuz of how expensive she is.
Ishmael works as tank for dark
Main Support Sub-DPS Set
Support Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
4x Barcelo
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
I really hope this build works for a DPS Lilith..
tbh even as non meta slaves u should still not invest in scire due to the sheer fact that she needs atleast ss3+sig and she very old
Cuz I legit don't have any more Hypertune Materials.
Need tips for Glaciation rotation. I have all 3 Glacio at SS and Selena with sig, but Selena's glaciation ends before I can even ult
although at 3s scire is slightly better than 3s ish
My investment in the game is a monthly.
do u have leaped alisa echo?
I have no means to get an SSS limited character like that
Yes
you need to qte alisa to prolong the glacio
if u qte echo u could extend the timer
Aight cool
but scire is not limited anymore 
unless ur talking about ish
Ish.
As I said I have no intention to get Scire, even tho she is adorable.
Most of my investment ends at SS0
Here you go mr.Meta
I give you my account. Trigger warning thou...don't get a stroke on me
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/10147399/characters
Explore the 57 characters of Augustus from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
where selena
SSS Vergil.
if I get Selena I won't have an excuse to motivate
And I legit reinstalled the game for the DMC collab itself
what do u want actually
u have ish
Honestly SSS Vergil can perform pretty well in physical
u can just slap her ass in dark team with bianca
atp Selena's only good would be for glacio content
Im just tired if sololilick malf
what? no?
selena does wayy better than vergil in phys
Unless they have 60kbc for physical that is
ss3 selena outdps vergil at all ranks
If you're bad maybe, I have both and did better with SSS Vergil
SS3 Selena btw
bruh i got 7m with ss3 selena

on last zone?
yeah
Whats ur score last zone
Were you in legend or hero?
sea legend
5.8m in hero
although it doesnt really change much
Well
legend n hero is nearly the aame
I Just want afk
Mainly due to my solacetune still having R1 more than anything I'ma be honest
Well I'm first time in Legend so we will see how that goes
nuke got 6.4m ion on hero and i only got 5.8m ion on legend
ion?
I just want a rotating team💔
Tf I'm supposed to do with that

with nearly same invest btw
Switch off tbh
Ionisation/plasma
I got 5.7 ion in hero, they must be pretty cracked
Ah thx.
I got 3.7 mil on ion but again
I was doing DMC V combos not Meta combos
Hows ur wz lookin heh
I wanna solo bianca
:0
yeah but my point is selena does way better than vergil at physical
U gettin 3s?
Lemme check 
Fairs
She does.
Selena is also a really hardware heavy char.
I got an older phone thou
Redmi note 12 pro 5g
So I had some frame drops while testing her.
I have samsung💀
yeah i dont understand why that happens i get insane fps drop with her flower ult on mobile
Her ss3 doesnt seem as good as selena's💔
Should i buy this (new to the game)
Ikr? It's kinda the deal breaker for me
Sigless Selena got me 605k Score in ppc
only on mobile though but it works well on pc
Ss3?
ss0
Jesus christ.
Wtf
Damn i prefer mobile so much lol
Same dude
with sig and ss3 should be around 617k+
That's hardly an increase to what he got
I use a poop Phone so cant really mald there
Based on what we've seen selena ss3> ss3walter?
Hey honestly 100% fair
Ik we need global testing ofc
thats a lot of increase if u want the chiefs measure tag
Its the Same with plasma
That seems to be the case.
Oh right fair
I honestly just aim for 1.8 mil
Nah maybe liv ss3 will be better
I only played grossly but
22.31 110 110 ice wz 3.1m
222.3 011 111 dark wz 2.4m
222 101 111 fire wz 3.4m
Yea i Always Just aim for 1.8m
understandable
Oh wow mobs zone right?
They all are mob zones
Nit even 1 boss-
except ice
OH
ice is duo
Ice is 2 elites though, it doesn't get better
Hmmm
2 polar bears per wave
isnt it bear spams there
yeah
So yeah, won't mald, at least I can retain hero 
my ice is cooked
You got Karen and fish on dark?
nah lilitch solo
I shoulda learn to play Lilith tbf
u gonna sss her?
Real
selena wedding soon
Whats the trick to unlock Infinitas without wasting the coins
just rereso a fully hypertuned set onto your characters
Why is there someone promoting when it's not even officiall
isnt that still wasting coins ?
ok neat
i think they meant the hypertune mats
ooh
prob some hoyoshill
not wasting the mats on A rank characters xD
they've been doing that since yesterday, just report and blacklist so you dont see the spam anymore
Pfft, solo
Surely 
Anyone had idea what next patch selector and who's included in it?
Up to qu for the free selector
Nanami star trails probably not included 🥀
Reporting does nothing. They already fully know about, they just actively choose to ignore it.
Sadly no 
Messaged them yesterday at 10 am, now it's 1:30am for me
at least blacklisting works
Actually I'm a do that real quick
What invest
22.32 110 111
Hey is the "admin" spamming free rainbow cards a scambot?
Yup ofc
Okay so a different question. I am currently a military instructor, and currently have three students.
One is level 80 but I can't tell if they are graduated yet.
The other two are at level 60, but I don't think have been online for over a week. Should I let the other two go in hopes I'll find more active player?
Account rack link
the level 80 isnt graduated yet but he won't get any new guide missions, check the other 2 and you can see when they last logged in, if it's over 3 days then kick them
Careful
@robust flax how do I check when they last played?
click that file icon at the top right of their card
Okay yeah it's been over a week since they logged on. I'll remove them then
remove and then just quick apply unless you wanna wait for student applications
youre gonna be removing people a lot, i only have 21 graduates in 3 years lol
@robust flax thanks! I've been enjoying PGR thanks to the help of the lovely commandants of this discord server! Thanks everyone!
I was gonna ask about that as well. I got the in game mail about a student graduating but they still show on my three students
So do they need to finish their guide missions first before it boots them off or do I just have to wait or take them off myself?
no, they stay your student until level 83, which is when they're forced to graduate
you could forcefully graduate them early and it'll just assign them an AI instructor if you wanna get rid of them early to make room for a new student
Ok. Reminds me that’s when it auto upgraded me to instructor before I finished all the missions for the blue tickets
And I got two inactive students so I’ll just boot them off
ya, those blue ticket missions are all they can do after they hit level 80
they can still do them if you force graduate them i think
i've never been a student before so i wouldnt know for sure
Wish it gave me the opportunity to finish the missions first before the instructor jumpscare message
But I'm sure there will be other ways to get them anyways. Just wanted to be at 15k before the next not so foreseeable blue ticket selector
predicted to be December if kuro finally decides not to shaft globlul, otherwise yeah still unknown
~~Ok so in December of 2025 I get Selena Pianissimo 💀 ~~
should i take CW?

It’s either CW or Echo
bp shards. why not get echo
Echo is definitely more valuable than CW
Getting the Echo shards will make getting her much quicker
Otherwise that’s 15 shards to get from the dorm
Where i can find gift codes
well im hoarding Dorm currency for wanshi atm
there are none right now
nada
Ok
That’s okay. Make sure to use your voucher tickets to get his shards
Because of the dorm, voucher and PPC, you can get him to SSS without actually pulling him
also take note, wata is voucherable next patch due to his leap
so might wanna not overspend vouchers if you f2p
Though if you have Selena or Vergil, Echo is pretty important
plan accordingly
How about enough to get him to SS3? That good enough to settle?
Plus I don’t have Pyroath. He’s not gonna have much use atm outside of his new coordinated attacks from QTE
always aim for sss, but yeah i think the better voucher distribution is to get wata, lucid, and lilith to SS3 before getting any of them to SSS. although, if you really want that -3 seconds per rotation, you will have to prioritize 1 tank
I also don't have Shukra. More than likely gonna get her from the free selector next patch cuz I already got Epitaph from the selector from the Selena/Vera patch
his leap will make fire rotations easier aside from what you mentioned
Then I'll eventually get Wanshi and Kaleido from the dorm. Just got Echo and currently working on getting Wanshi
So I noticed in the shop there is a section that sells uniframes shards. Do they work the same way that, once you have enough you can just get the character without needing to pull them from a banner?
it's not shards for the character, it's for their uniframe skills
dont even bother uniframes
Pretty sure at the current meta of the game it's not worth thinking about them. They're all older characters
@robust flax dammit, I really wanted a couple just to play with for fun 🙁
waste of resources
i mean if you just wanna play for fun, go ahead, no one stopping you
ya, your fun with them is just the uniframe section of guild siege with the trial characters lol
oh sht i forgot i was in gen help
When is a good time to start pulling for weapon sigs? From what I heard Solacetune really wants her sig with DLT down the line
And idk who really wants theirs as well. Maybe Shukra or Selena although I won't be getting her for a while
Also just found out that in the worst case scenarios, losing the 80/20 has two specific weapons you could get for losing depending on the target
Being honest I wanna pull Dante once before the collab ends. Otherwise I'd be coping with solo Nanami on ignition plus it's mf Dante
- Anytime u have enough bc
- Mainly attackers that need sig, but tanks and amps also if u want to be in competitive as harmo really quite important even though their just dmg increase
- Just cope with solo nanami, if u has her at ss3, it's good to forget about dante already
I only have her at SS. Still better than S Dante?
Base S never functioning here
Shame. Very well then
How do I get this achievement?
So how would that work would I play Nanami solo with ignition or swap with Vera?
Just solo, u can go with luna and lilith if ur lilith is higher than vera
Don't have Luna, Lilith is only at S rn only got whatever you get for free from insatiable research
10 shards gets her to SS, Vera is at SS rn
Then go with vera + any other supp/ amp i suppose?
Also suffice tho
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General DPS set
Used for S0-SS3
4x Diesel
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Cottie
U can try whether tank or supp/amp better with little bit experiment
Personally, I don't think this is a good time to get Epitaph SS rank with Pain Skulls especially if you don't really have a lot of it





