#📨・general-help
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how do you know in the first place?
how do I hide ui/controls or cinematic mode in pc with keybinds? I remember doing it before but I forgot what key is it or has it been removed already?
Can someone please help me get access to tales of the Babylonia legend. It wants me to go to grandiose glamor research but I don’t know where that is so can someone help please
go to the coating gacha > left bottom corner
Where is that exactly? I’m still new
main menu right top corner should have grandiose glamor
if not then go to events and find it under the same name
Ok thanks.
I just realized I didn’t choose that one lol I screwed my self over

Im a returning player, and i dont see any way to get exp mats for characters anymore? Are they just side rewards from everything or what? im lost a little
Its in the simulation shop, everything is in there
I'm trying to unlock the last episode of dmc story, what kind of "response" am I looking for from vergil to the air taunt?
When you successfully taunt, the camera zooms in.
Does it only do it once?
Yes
am i blind, lmao. I dont see exp stuff there. or anything else to get it besides the special support token maybe
Scroll right, there's more
Ok... any idea what phases of tje figjt I can do it in? Doesn'g seem to work when he's in certain attack modes
Just do it near him when he's just walking
Should I SS3 Lucia or Nanaknight first?
huh
Why Ishmael isn't playable in this game mode ?
And are Vergil and Dante be playable in alternative interpretation ?
Maybe this mode already long ended to be updated
NOOOO
Unlikely, no collab charas had been on any roguelike mode so far
They just became collection after fall of meta 
Dang

Cause rn I wipe through pretty much everything with Vergil ultima slash team
The other rougelike got all char(not collab tho)
Ultima slash is trash 
Oh okay
I hate crit rng
Simple curiosity
unOrdinary ahh pfp
do you perchance know of school of hierarchy
Yes
I played that game before
Is it still dead ?
yeah its so tragic, they have 0 advertisement and even back then it was a fun game
Agreed it got potential
sadly Im inactive in cc rn I wanted to make vids about it might will in future
but if devs do no ads its cooked
I’m new and just got a free s rank selector, it has 5 options and idk who to pick
Oh that one
The "best" pick is Tenebrion, but they're all so old that it doesn't really matter too much
So you could just pick whoever
Ah okay thx
Hey mind I ask if I downloaded a game as apk
Would it still automatically update newer versions?
Which should I pick? lol
Pick any, its just 5star
Wait y'all are telling me you need to roll 6 copies to go from sss to sss+
Yeh
can yall help
You kinda need to update it in PlayStore or AppStore
im using redmi 13
You can update it in PlayStore then and why did you download it as apk though?
is not from my regions
im using taptap
it need permission to access my files
and I DONT see TapTap in the Access file category
i turn on install unknown apps but it still asking permission
Try asking here: https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/867983459421945866
alr
Zamn
Yeah SSS is a good stopping point even for whales
SSS+ is just some small damage increases
It's not small
Omaygat my wifeee wleo wleo wleo
Oh I'm aware but I'm talking as in on a ratio of how expensive it is to get those upgrades
First, do you want DMC?
Idk, too new to know if i should
honestly they aren't bad
Pretty solid sidegrades on element and instantly have rights
0 effort to SS
Very strong in affix
DMC propaganda 
I will keep the agenda moving
So if i delay spending to next patch, i would get more for what i have?
No the banner ends next patch
Not really no unless you want to hyper invest into new Bianca frame which I don't recommend as a new player
Best thing you can do is save member target next patch for Geravoir
Isn't startrail really good too tho
And earn enough event cards this patch with all the content to guarantee startrail from anniv
You should have her through other means
Build up thunderbolt research for solacetune after DMC
Dante is actually a good standin for pyroath and is significantly cheaper
one copy provides the 1000% qte buff
Very good to pair with vera even at low invest
And even can run solo vera pretty optimally with hervor on her and shake on dante
I guess i got it already from choice pack or member target
you have member target?
No
Already used
Well there goes my plan out the window 💀
I asked here 2 days ago
Dang I wasn't here in time
Either Ishmael or Oblivion would be good from anniv then
Not sure how to do that
Your fire team is cooked
There is alot to learn and I have a fear of missing out on great opportunity or event while im still learning
hmmmmm
Actually yeah
You can get ishmael to use as fire amp
Wata will be free next patch with leap
Dante can be attacker
oh god that sounds scuffed but it can work
Artimeto spektakuru yeaaaaa
The thing about ishmael is she can copy the BiS support buffs you're missing

Very good character to have early on
as she can fit in any team not physical
Just keep anniv exclusive to event cards
since DMC won't be able to use them
I do and do the 2ult SS3 rotation
Physical Vergil outdid that 
Collab ticket when expire does it convert to black card? Or just disappear
converted to event
Oops i meant how do you get the flower ult

Ok thx bro
Consume 6 pings and hold dodge
Dodge -> basic ->6 pings -> hold dodge -> ult should do flower
I see thanks
Once you do flower it goes on a cooldown
There will be some regular ults after the initial
whats the Nanaknight build
5 star wep and SS
for Plasma beam and Fire respectively thank you
Should I use her as the QTE bot in Plasma?
You use her 2 ult rotation in plasma since lightning is still buffed there
For fire you use cottie for 2pc
not Ein?
Then yeah eins works for all 3 teams
okay so Herschell and Ein?
yup

wait what bout Heisen
Heisen is for lightning
do you know that holding basic in selena grants her stacks at ss3 to deal more damage in her hold dodge core?
How can i reach Level 80 ASAP?
But u need 4 pc to get that lightning shred (it's basically the same for all elemental shred memo)
I see
So Ein best for a supp run still
At least until I get her Signature

yeah checks out
thanks again dude.
And anyone got the dum dum spreadsheet for rotations?
blue orb->Yellow orb hold
this typa shi
Hey are uniframes any good? Roland flambeau looks like fun to play as. But I already got a fire team made
Outdated.
They don't perform as well as they don't have a time stop ability
When her hair still black? Or white? Or both?
They are far outmatched in endgame content by newer S rank frames
And I mean Grand Canyon far
@red sedge that makes me sad 🙁 maybe I'll wait to get him at a later point once I have full fledged teams for all the elements
Yeah it is what it is man.
I'm sorry to break the news to you but if you wanna climb rankings don't even look at Uniframes
every time she swaps in or does a 3 ping, she gains a white note in her core bar regardless of form
holding basic consumes that form to increase the gauge number up to 5
on ss0 it does nothing, ss3 above it buffs her hold dodge
I see
Cause for real flambeau's combo game is probably the most fun I've had aside from the sparda brothers so far.
but someone clearly doesnt know what they are talking about and starts to spread more misinformation so one has to say something 
in any case
Uniframe now only played on guild seige and babel sadly
trash
Interstellar Resonance
When there are 60 Melody Points, Concerto Orbs' Variation Points acquisition efficiency doubles. Each Musical Note consumed will increase the Base DMG of the next Melodic Outburst by 20%, up to 100%. Casting Signature Majestic Interlude/Signature - Note of Termination will increase the Base DMG of QTEs by 500% throughout the battle.
Gains 1 Musical Note, 12 Signature Energy, and 1 Signal Orb upon entering the battlefield. Musical Notes are capped at 5 instead. When performing a ping to cast Basic Attack - Echoing Melody, converts maximum 6 Signal Orbs to Musical Notes. With 4/5 Musical Notes, increases Base DMG of Basic Attack - Echoing Melody to 300%/600% instead. During Lingering Echoes, Selena deals 100% more Extra DMG.
@red sedge are uniframes easy to rank up at least?
Same as the others...
pretty hard to rank up from my experience
not worth the hassle
I mean if you mean SSS yeah they are
The rank up like a rank, 18 shards per copy
but even at SSS they ain't sheit compared to an average SS gen 3
That makes me super sad 😭
Mood.
Not like regular s rank which 30 shards per copy
Alternative Sub-DPS Set
Void Sub-DPS
Void Warzone
Only used for Void Warzone.
4x Herschell
2x Heisen
2x Heisen (Harmony)
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill
signature always for her
You sure my guy?
Lightning and solo ignite sig, other than that go class
She does alot of damage in all team compositions she's in
I need her for Plasma and Fire.
Plasma and fire then class
Aight thanks.
Plasma I'd still say ult from my experience
Tho still fine to use sig
She does 2 ults every rot
ignition absolutely sig
fire is the only one where she'd do 1
only when I don't level Phys chars is the 15atk15crit resonance the first one that shows up on 5/6 memories

you dont really need crit reso
I know.
yeaah
so what's the rotation on Plasma for her
I know it's Lilith Plasma combo->Lucia Pyroath
the whole 12145 combo
but the Nanaknight part is new territory
basically what you do in her lightning wz rotation
My boy I literally just got her.
Just do her tutorial
2x 3p > yellow > hold basic > ult
2x 3p > yellow > basics till 195 > hold basic > ult

She simple but dedly
I'll be in vc if you want plasma beam advice

ah thanks but I don't do VC
much appreciated thou man
You have SS0 Pyroath right?
Yep
Know the rot?
SS0 Pyroath and SS0 Lilith
I'll make shi up as I go
I know the idea of it now it's time to experiment
Pretty good team overall
Gl malding
gl with it
just dont try and assume your rot is the best and watch dalaos videos if you dont know much
Gonna take fire team to new heights
Do I start on Nana knight or do I start on Lilith
or do I start by Swapping from Nana to Lilith
start on nanaknight
this gives you enough energy for lilith to do her things
aight lets see how it goes ig
so 3 ping -> yellow -> hold attack->ult?
for nanaknight
and then I hold auto to 195 in the upcoming swap ins due to Pyroath swap cooldown

2x 3pings
And then you do another 2x 3pings for her regular rotation
Same playstyle as swap nana in lightning

What the difference between selena ss and ss3?
ss3 deals more dmg and i think a slightly different rot
Massive damage increase and much larger off field damage
Her rotation changes because of how that increase works
imma have a stroke with the youtube guides
"SS0 ROTATION!" they say with SSS lilith and SS3 pyroath
DLT I will miss you till I get that wepaon istg
ikr
I should make guides ngl
As long as the rot works
ss0 pyro is crazy bricked
Not much I can do in that department.
Tbf idek if theres a huge score gap between ss3 and ss0 pyro rots
Honestly SS3 dante can be competitive to that and it's sad

There is because of 5 slash in plasma and 1000% off field for fire
The house put my budget in the gutter for Games.

Ss0 can 5 slash too
Well, only once tho
But usual ss3 pyro rot is 4 swap ins, ss0 is 5 swap ins
Can someone just write down the rotations without the "Oh so bricked" bs that's almost a constant in this chat?
For PGR is there any support for Ultra Wide Monitor on PC cause a lot of the text is broken or forced offscreen
It's pretty long which is why I'd prefer talking and showing it
Hard to explain plasma since it's the hardest rot to master
12415 rot
I think? 

I like to have a cheat sheet on hand for this stuff
I usually find one on reddit but my god...this game...this game is hurtful when it comes to googling stuff
never seen that and I'm using ultrawide
Like bro how is such a great game so scarce
#punishinggrayravenglobal #plasmabeam #lucia #nanami #startrail #lilith #pgrwarzone #pgrgameplay #ion
#legendwarzone
thx for that 👍
lack of CCs
Yeah forced to run in windowed mode and lower resolution
hm?
is SS3 or SSS Lilith enough to get Ult from just 2 3pings?
I usually gotta hit a bit with her to get it..
hmm what resolution is your monitor? is it 21:9 or like 32:9
lilith rot always the same
See here? Bro is ss3 pyro doing a ss0 rot

3440 x 1440
Higher rank just increases damage
considering the majority of the people in this community are full of people misinfo-ing and casuals, its not surprising
Idk man. I don't get her Ult up with just 2 blue orbs
Do I need cottie for her?
yes
R u doing warzone or ppc
Warzone
U need to wait
don't care much for ppc past 1.55 mil
There was so much I thought DMC was trash until I actually played them
is this for ss3 or ss0 pyro
Was expecting them to be like BRS
Ss0 rot but ss3 can use too
thanks, ill try it out
hmmm mine is 2560x1080 whihc is the same ratio but I'm not sure why it'd be broken like that, I'm not insanely far in the story but I've yet to run in to anything like that so not sure if it's bc of the increased resolution or not, sorry I can't help more
or is there a more optimized ss3 rot
3355
Okay so
@viscid sequoia
SS0 - Lilith - Sig CUB - Sig Wep [DLT]
SS0 - Pyroath - Sig CUB - Sig Wep [DLT]
SS0 - Startrail - Lingya CUB - 5* Wep
This is the set-up I got on me rn.
Idk if it's more optimized, gotta ask nuke for that
Nuke told me sometimes ss0 rot is better, sometimes ss3
Ss3 pyro truly useless 
it really depends
GUYS I CAN'T DO THAT WAR ZONE TWICE, IT'S BEEN 5 TIMES ARLLDY SOMEONE HELP
At least can do the hold ba + ba ig
So is that spreadsheet still applicable?
I sent u ss0 spreadsheet
do we know when the next check target reset is? or is that still nonexistent
Lilith rank doesn't matter
Aight..I'll go buy another Cottie set....
Nope
For who
Lilith
Lilith doesn't need cottie in plasma wdym
I don't get her ult from only 2 3pings
Have u tried waiting a bit?
You have to let the animation play out.
U have her as starter?
wait till she lands
Aight lets see ig
If u have Lilith starter then u need 3x3p
Nah Nanaknight is the starter
imma keep it down more just in case
she gets massive energy upon the landing animation of the 2x3 pings
Do I just swap off her? or do I do a Naanknight rotation before
swap off

okay then the previous info is sent to the dumpster bin ig
you start with startrail since when you swap it gives energy on swap attack
I asked that but the reply was to do a Nanaknight rotation off the bat and then go into lilith
aight lets see it again
nope
what
I've seen Lilith starter with nanami 1 rot and to Lucia
That wastes precious time for lucia rot
Never seen nana start with her doing 1 rot before tho
starters usually dont do rotations
starters swap off immediately exactly because you're managing your cooldowns
Yeah I don't have a clue.
the idea is to get into plasma beam pyroath as much as possible and have startrail doing damage in the off time
Well I got them for free
How do I SSS rank this?
What this?
where do u find this
Thunderbolt manual idk if it’s a new player thing
idk i dont have it
Should I do it for that one character that supports crimson something
nanami
Do it if you have the spare BC
And pick Nanaimo startrail
go event tab in bottom left and scroll until u see thunderbolt manual or smth
do u have nanaknight? the one in the middle
when does it end?
Never
permanent
eh
So only do if you have the spare BC

spare event ticket better
That’s the one I’m asking if I should do this for
i need to sss bianca so ill wait
It might? Not be there if you’ve already done it
Idk
no
save for bianca
Oh you can use those?
do u still have blue target banner? better get her from there
yea
Save for Selena coating 
I’m trying to get something else from there
ahh then yea sure, but best dont compromise ur future character pulls
make sure u can get new characters b4 u backpull old ones
where do i spend special support tokens
can you show me the image of the currency
Drawing a blank rn
the spinning top looking things
i just accidently bought like 2k of them
oh lmao
Silvery? Aight
Yea their shop was removed. You use them for Weapon Harmony only now
But youll be doing a lot of that, so its fine
u can only use it if ur lv80 and have 6 star weapon
Well it’s Selena physical one I really wanna get her so I might do the thunderbolt research for whatever her name is
blue target for selena thunderouns for nanaknight? valid
ah i see alr ty
Who is nana, I’m new
Nanami startrail
the girl in the middle
Aka nanaknight
Ah okay I can’t with names
same when i just started ngl
what is the best control scheme / way to play on keyboard? im playing the story and I have to tap Y for a few parts where I need to use the mouse to click on stuff and its getting annoying + I also want to optimize for endgame
The Y thing is just like that. Its poorly implemented in the early-to-middle of the story, so you will just have to press Y and do it manually every time.
I also moved the Interact button to F
For gameplay, i moved my ult button to R, and then just keep playing on the layout of “mouse 1 attack, mouse 2 dodge”
I dont do this, but you can also do something like:
Orb 1: press 1
Orb 2: press 2
…
Orb 5: press Shift + 1
Orb 6: press Shift + 2
et cetera, if this is more comfortable for you
as always, no such thing as a “best layout”. Just see what works for you
is the best way to get a 6 star wep is to actually pull for it or recycle shop?
pull for it, never recycle
ok
Pull
Recycle shop is a bad return on investment
3 weapons into one weapon isnt really a good deal
better used as Weapon resonance material 
I see, bummer on the story stuff
will be trying that out. tyvm 
is getting wep from banner exclusively from black cards (not including bp)?
i never seen any from events :0
what if orbs 1 2 3 4 5 mb5 mb 4 mb3 
pretty much, they dont really give out any weap tix
i will tear your head off
thats what i do tho 
last question, are these worth for the value
I normally buy the 30rc monthly
For weapon if I need to buy, I normally just buy the 299 rc pack
ye buy the 2nd one
The two black card passes (specifically the one that costs 30) is the best deal in the entire shop
oo ok!! thanks all 
We get 1 usb too (for weapon reso)
From the 299 rc weapon pack
I don’t think we have it this patch
You should see it in the next patch
okay, ill look out for it, thank you!
if you go to #📨・bot-info and do “/links” you can find a spreadsheet of packs
And it sorts them all in terms of value
oooo!!! tysm

What is meant by affix preview?
Does that mean what your characters are effected by or what your enemies are effected by?
Like does "Physical Resistance Decreases by 45%" mean that your characters have lowered resistance or your enemies
what's the memory set for Alisa?
lmao
he still hasnt made the sheet for 13424 
if he doesn't make it then that's my excuse to not go mald again
altho my #1 lead rn is very slim
agreed
also
is there a reason why ishmaels stuff is like nerfed for dark team
or why her amplifications are buffed for certajn elements
yeah, she copies the stats of the best tank or amp of the element you're using
the best dark tank is scire
she's ultra omega duper trash at this point but she won't die
smth every malder can agree on 
and were getting 2 mobs zones next week
ohhhhhhh
it's so ass
my lilith literally attacking the air
and missing to clear a wave, like, every time
Should I spend these tickets if so on what?
It's affect for both side, if u see the blue one, it's buff for enemies, if u see the red one, it's buff for us
ah
if you have the s rank selector on this banner, then yeah you should use it
Wait so does that mean player would be 45% vulnerable to physical in screenshot
i rmb some guy said hold on to it for now, anni dropping next patch
as for, on what
that's only if you already used the selector
oh yea
as for on what
Save member target for next patch to get Geravoir
you can get nanami star trail, or, what i recommend, is vera geiravor, and still getting nanami startrail from thunderbolt selector
the one thing to keep in mind is that thunderbolt selector uses the same currency you use to pull on character banners
but there's no time limit to it so you can do it at your own pace
how do i build pyroath?
Anniv on dec, and we still dont know when the checked one gonna reset
next patch is half anni right? i rmb dustfly made a vid saying we getting extra bcs next patch
or wtv smth idk
Half anniv yea
For glb, but cn on dec
ahh
4 heraclitus 4 cottie
what are those
memory sets
ok thx
memory sets themselves can be further leveled by sticking resonance onto them, get atk+15 top reso signature bottom reso
So question.....I am looking to get into this game but when I look up information on this game it says that the servers were shut down in March this year. Seems like it isn't true but I wanted to understand more why that is occurring.
also where do i get target weap rd tickets
march? i think thats when ishmael dropped? i rmb some hackers ddos kuro servers
weap tickets is hard to come by
best reliable source is converting bc to red weapon tix
alr
I am confused them so the game is very much active correct? Google is so confusing.
yea its still very active dont worry
server got cooked cuz hackers thats all
theres like a few types of shards 5 star weap shards u can get by completing dailies, u can recycle for 5 star weapons
6 stars shard can only get by recycling 6 star weapon
6 star memory shards....not that useful
5 star shards can be use to buy 5 star memories
where do i go to recycle 5* weap shards for weapons?
shop in bottom right of main screen, scroll until u find recycle or smth
found it, thanks
okay gents
@viscid sequoia you got the fire rotation?
the spread sheet like with the Plasma one I mean
I got Vera SS0 R1 DLT with sig cub
Just to make sure..
You have dante?
If SS3 his off field is really good in a pair with vera
You have ss3 pyroath?
SS0 Pyroath
Do 1 ult with pyroath would be the strat
Start with vera on red, have wata on blue with lingya, and pyroath on yellow
do one 3 ping with vera at the beginning and swap to pyroath
vera starter
Can't davinci with that dang
fire might be cooked than until wata has sig
F me sideways..
Can't run davinci unless you have 6 star on either one
Yeah nothing I can do there.
that being the case from my own testing at similar ranks ignition startrail performs pretty similar to wata
I lost to Nana sig on 12 pity to Hanying sig..
Solacetune sig?
The very same
did you have it before?
saved my vergil ngl
chat should i create a new account 
Noup.
I was running SS0 Hanyin by coping with Lingya on Alisa
Nope
Just watch a wz run
bricked 💔
Then that's huge she needs sig desperately
7500 no sig
also why did u pull weave sig
i hit pity every time
What will happen to DMC pull ticket when event is over?
i didnt i lost pyroath 80/20
It was yeah
Went from 2.9mil to 3.7 mil Phys WZ thanks to her weapon
free res mat
yeah i could go for pyroath r2
if i had gotten it 
Explore the 42 characters of Akathysia from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
pyroath functions well off of dlt honestly
Don't need anything else
Much more important characters to res anyways
if only i could get dlt

dont delete acc
shes first in every sig prio list ive seen wdym
i was jk bro i went hungry for this account already
She is I'm talking in that she only needs one res
She isn't even the main dps of fire 
so who do i spend the extra nightblazer on
me myself and i
send huaxu
i just sent it
why does everyone have a 5* 
oh I'm blind lol
because i lose pities
You should make a change to that
With your current characters Vergil needs DLT hella
Time to gofund
Otherwise if you had sig for solacetune or startrail I'd say them
But since I see a Yamato without res definitely that
i plan on startrail after pyro
next week i get the norman reso usb so no issues for pyro
Vera is also a good one to get sig for
thats after nanaknight
will carry your fire scores hard
what's the best place to get cogs
simulated battlefield farm blue coin then buy from simulation shop
i rmb firefly has a vid his vera solo got 4.2m in wz
Yeah she's cracked
the cogs or the cog cases (unless they're the same i cant math rn)
cases
k
how come my heraclitus 04 can only be upgraded to 35 instead of 45 like the other 3?
oh
can you explain what you meant in that last bit
like 15 atk on the top 3?
theres upper reso and lower reso, upper all atk+15, means all 6 memories upper reso are atk+15
lower reso means all 6 memories lower reso are signature move
Why is Veronica so tanky 🥲
for someone just starting today should i pull on anything or just save?
physical units?
physical element charavters
In the “Base Member” banner, grab Nanami startrail and her weapon
Skip dmc, and hold out for next patch
If you grind a lot, you might be able to invest in the anniversary banner, but dont count on it
as much as i wanna gamble on DMC, i suppose i won't gamble on it, was too busy on r1999 ;-;
I did, got yamato & devil sword on first pull
And SS virgil on 3rd pull. These rates are crazy
The rates are completely normal
You just got lucky
Oh ok, it's usualy not the case 🤣
did ya pull in fate?
No
Everyone and every video said not to
Rates are better but not low spend friendly
I also bought 2 monthly pass A, but they dont stack
They just put one in front of the other, so i got daily BC for 60 days now
elaborate a lot, i have a lot of free time right now
I would take that W and pull standard the rest of the way
Probably will. I'm gonna save till the next patch but i really wanted luna
Hooooi
All you really need now is a copy of Dante so he has rights and his CUB
Plasma beam shreds her but out of all the affix teams it takes too much setup
only pull on anniversary if you have enough currency to guarantee to hit pity.
If you get unlucky, the pity on the anniversary banner does not transfer over to later banners. And also, the character thats releasing next patch “Bianca: Crepuscule” is top priority
Because plasma is one of the strongest teams 
are the dmc characters absolutely busted cause "collab"?
Fomo is real
No. The opposite
They're good sidegrades and busted in affix content
fomo is very real 
One copy of Dante is good enough to have a solid off field option for Vera
"good" sidegrades at high investment only
and affix content is not something that a new player can do, or has the resources to build
ive been trying to find a gacha to click with that id enjoy and i was like eh pgr seems fun
So why is she electric weakness if they want you to use plasma bem
They are just good even at lower invest tho
she isnt electric weakness
Huh 
im sure this is posted somewhere but is the next patch release date out yet?
I was putting in work with the most scuffed fire team imaginable on an alt to experiment with
Was using bridget as a tank
You serious?
Vera didn't even have sig
sept 19th
Still scored like 2.4m with fire dante without sig
do we get free energy things to make farming faster or do i just wait for daily refills?
Honestly playing with and without sig
I'm confused what to resonance VERA'S signature
Helpo Me

@proud jay how do I plasma 
Dante's sig improves his rot significantly
yea and pyro wouldve gotten you more 
Dante's cheaper
type /resonance to see the priority of this
wow by like 3,5k
and for 3,5k difference, youd settle for a weaker fire team, and zero options for a plasma team?
SS3 pyroath doesn't feel as strong as SSS Dante
dlt
And I 2 ult with pyroath while waiting for vera cool down
Best I can manage is 5m
With dante I scored 500k more
This is mainly by ultilizing hat trick
reso's gonna have to wait, i forgot i have to reroll it every time to get the stat i want and that takes 600 sim tokens per 🥀
whats dantes invest in this comparison
u need nanaknight pyroath and lilith to work
SSS R1 Dante vs SS3 R1 Pyroath
my bad lol
spooked me for a bit 
Both have CUBs
SSS and above Pyroath clears
Big thing is pulling one copy of dante gives him that 1000% qte buff
but then yea, obviously
pyroaths ss3 barely affects her fire performance ever since vera. you do not two ult with pyroath. thats gimping your scores
Makes him extremely strong for hervor cottie vera
Than what else do I do than?
Wait for Vera to be off cooldown and do nothing? 
Trust me I labbed tf out of this
???
2 vera 1 wata 1 lucia (eclipse ult)
not in that order
You can do 2 ults at SS3 and still have time for a wata ult
This only changes if you have SSS wata
well everyone else ive talked to disagrees 
you can, but you dont want to
If I can fit it in the cooldown I can fit in the cooldown
One ult viable if wata SSS for that cooldown reduction I'm aware
if you can rotate to vera faster, then you do that
deplete all gauge on eclipse
I'm able to
then ur downtime got covered
but youve been saying that you dont do it
I'm so fast with wata that vera is still on cooldown when I'm finished
then youre doing something else wrong
Animation canceling
thats good, youre supposed to anim cancel
I utilize all that tech
yea thats the minimum
but apparently ya still cant rotate
I'm minmaxing what I can do in those rotation wdym
that came out hostile
yea yea bots cancelled once august ends, unless someone picks it up
And cease to work post September 2025
oh it was sept
got me good 
Thankfully I've become self sufficient with the game knowledge
Depending on how hard it is I might take up python to maintain it

Anyway even at SS3 Dante's damage without sig is comparable to vera SS0 without sig

And this is what the boost to dante's qte does
SS3 btw and that damage is all vera's ult and 2x dante qte
I made sure to ult with dante away from the enemy to activate the qte buff
I also took the CUB off both of them so it would be comparable
I don't understand what's happening
Dante's CUB is a massive buff
This is how scuffed that invest is btw
This build good for ignition?
Yup just harmonize cottie
Looks good, assuming that’s signature move reso
Im missing 5 harmonize bar thingy
Have already done clash reflection?
Honestly from my testing rotational dante becomes hella viable in fire team at SSS
But i alr have pyroath
yea ofcourse he does
youre comparing SSS to a basically SS unit
At SS3?
No reso, no signature weap (only 5 star) and ss
pyroath ss3 no longer affects fire
at sss he is stronger, no discussion
is it worth it? absolutely not
you push more ukts on puro you delay her overall swap resulting in no slash ender+3riple rotate as well
*pyro
WDYM SS3 gives 1000%qte
Wave progression alwaywas same as well
So the build is good for both ign and fire?
yup
3s dante is stronger than ss3 pyro? 
not better than pyro
u want next week ice duo? 
°_°
you setup slash ender for final rot
the other 2 is mobs 
From my experience yes
Is dante ss stronger than s pyro?
time for u to debunk it king, u have both invest
Unless someone is willing to show me a better Pyroath
ABSOLUTELY
i already tried it

Pyroath only good if she's invested
Even one dante without sig or anything as long as he's SS3
Functions as a good fire off field
makes solo vera even better
im not interested in sharing the results because its just throwing voices into a void anyways
3riple ult as well you won't have time for that 
Me literally showing the difference and people be like but SS0 pyroath would be better than SS3 Dante
what youve been "showing" has been wrong
and youre being ignorant to it
I am not
Vera with sig + dlt and Hervor can stay on field the whole time
nah bro just drop it. we've tried. not worth ur time
dante buffs qte and can have shake and eins on
Hervor lmao
doesn't require a sig set
hervor is crazy
Oh non swap
Exactly
Yall need to get more creative with build ideas
bbbbRRRRROOOOOTHER
oh this is gorgeus ragebait
If both vera and dante have shake
ye yall just not creative enough
no sh*t, thats why hes not recommended on the team
following one build only without experimenting smh
Because SSS Pyroath is stronger I'm not denying that
So I harmonize cottie on Dante?
correct, but thats also not the topic rn
Doesn't change the fact for low invest account Dante is really good
eins if fire
sss dante is low invest 

I'm referring to SS3 Dante
Skipp dante
Pyro just better to invest

Tf happened here
People fail to realize I can experience all forms of power weak and strong
- qte management is garbage
- rotations are a sham
- creativity is limited because never experiment properly
- doesnt actually watch others to learn
im sorry but this is hilarious, im so glad this server is gonna die soon
this is me when I woke up and hear this
What abt Elizabeth?
Useless
u just dont realize that u dont know how to play pyroath. then u just claim "oh dante is better"
Fire Dante doesn't need cottie cuz 1 ult right?
Show me a good pyroath video for reference than insted of just spouting words
So what u use, shakes dv?
I want to get better after all
shakes eins darwin
theres a tons of vid out there, youre the one claiming things
Pls show
what are invershards for?
for example, go to yomm yt channel and learn urself
If shakes dv tho, what wata carry 
hi sss gamer 
who is yomm

daddy
Darwin is trash on Dante no?
dante is carrying this bruh
no, why would it be
Idk if red in his ult state counts as an orb
Yeah im thinking on using this as a Weapon reso since my Dante doesn't have DLT
Since it doesn't consume any
hell no, get Tonitrus and dont trash it
im keeping lucia's weather into consideration as well
it wont be useful now, but itll save your ass eventually
tonitrus otherwise vergil team a brick
Hm
Vera without shakes is ass tho, I've tried
The stats tho 🥀
Tonitrus is a must have for Echo (and by extension the entire phys and TS team)
they dont matter
no one cares about stats
No im still ss gamer
Wave management very bad
Aight, im getting tonitrus

Would you have have like 50 more attack or guaranteed crit
aiyaiyai
Looking at pro gameplay when they have SSS tank for the cooldown reduction Vera is still on cooldown by time their tank is done ulting

its been awhile since im in hero, anyway i fucked up pyroath qte towards the end. could probably 9.2 or 9.3 im not sure, im no longer familiar with hero score per wave.
Weather = Vera
SS3 Lucia Pyroath R3 | 4 Heraclitus 2 Cottie 2 Einstena (BA Reso)
SSS0 Nanami Startrail R3 | 4 Herschell 4 Davinci
SS3 Vera Geiravor R3 | 4 Shakespeare 4 Cottie
damn they all have sss tank, its not valid 
Bro

holy god, you do not need sss wata

i literally said yomm's yt channel 
this is comedic
I think hes dented
Do u do 5 blazes on wata?
and this guy goes to azuri vid
Why 5?
You only need 3 if below SSS right?
I regret getting Sakura on my main before the collab happens 🥀
Lucia eclipse, wata 5 blaze, vera double
That's the standard fire rot
why 5 blaze?
the vid in question using nanami btw
And ofc, do the vera autistic rot at the start for 3 orbs on vera
he does like no damage anyway 
yek 
Don't ask me why, it just gets better score 
Are we deadass rn
weak answer tbh
downtime for swap in
Wdym Wata does no damage
fire got powercrept that hard
Then do u have other answers
Can't wait for his leap tho
heeey, can someone help me? i have this problem and I can't do anything else
Tbf u can 1e1s pyro into 3 blaze too but 1e 5 blaze better idk why
Just cause he’s not clearing waves like Vera does not mean he isnt significantly helping with progression
Wz is all about wave progression, not about dealing the highest dmg possible
#📨・tech-support go there. they can help you
oh ik I just feel like I do more with 2 pyroath ults from my experience
thankss
when you do single eclipse, then to 3b wata, you still have to wait for vera swap in to come back up
so just do 5b
Why not just 2 ult with pyroath then?
Dazzalao wz teach
Oh right if u do 2 ult pyro + 3 blaze wata, can u swap to pyro after vera rot?
because you are eating into amp buff
Pyroath slash hits like a pool noodle anyways
Ye pyro slash is trash dmg
and also 3b wata + double vera, lucia's swap in is still in cd
I'll try it
Unless u didn't dodge cancel on vera
R u hero
he is hero X
you dodge cancel on vera specifically because you want to do it within amp buff
you dont dodge cancel then whats the point of 2 rot in the first place
u start with lucia
If u wanna compare the 2 units, next time try to get max score
starter is lucia, to wata for shred field, then setup vera

Or close to max score at least
Ur comparing Dante and pyroath on fire yet u don't know how to use fire effectively 
tbh I played both in same order and similar manner
Do u triple rot vera at the end?
I do and into a quick dante ult/ pyroath slash at the end
i could play dark vs ice in a similar manner
but why doesnt it work? because their rotations are different
- pyroath weather as well
Honestly wata weather the most goated fire weather
Do u have a recorded run?
I still have vera buff on wata ult even after double pyroath ult you sure?
sigh...
that's on every swap right?
every swap. from any character, to any other character
the buff lasts for 10 seconds
That's 10 seconds plenty

just setup pryoath premptively problem solved

then you will just eat into the other swap ins time
the longer your setup, the more time will be taken for the ending

since I'm instant with him anyway

He cant

im not gonna judge
u cannot convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced
what free S rank should i grab?


uhh sure?

what are the choices
tene
if ur strat works for you, great
omg its kaiju himself 
