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thx
I've seen this several times and it just never clicks with me...actual damaged brain.

pure brigh
Do it
Thats gay

do i give cottie to ishmael instead of einsteina
she is s0r0
Sleep with me pookie
Cottie if you want her deal damage, einsteina just for qte bot
I heard recently that solacetune needs a fair amount of investment prior to her being good for the phys/ultima slash team, how far do you need to invest? SS3 and sig?
Ss0 r1 enough for phys
I also swiped for enough rc to get me a selectable sig, what's the best sig to use that ticket on
final arbiter
Anything you need, if you show us your characters we may help https://huaxu.app/
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I plan to get solacetune with the selector eventually for my vergil team
Then grab solacetunes wep from it as she would REALLY like her wep.
https://huaxu.app/na/players/29344106/characters need some help with how to progress my account
Explore the 21 characters of Doubted from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Dont really know what to pull for or what teams i should be trying to build
I also was looking at the new bianca frame and wanted to know whether it's a good idea to try and get her when she drops/what units do i need for her
focus rn on physical cause you have Vergil, pull for solacetune, and get Alisa echo free from dorm shop
Thank you
she gonna replace Lamia dark attacker so it's a good idea to get her, team: Bianca, Lilith, dark tank (qte bot) no need to do a lot of investment
ty
np guys
i appreciate all of your help! sorry if I ask a lot of questions, just want to get in the swing of things!
Always ask questions, its better to ask than make a mistake and regret.
don't worry, fell free to ask questions this is why #šØć»general-help exists
Me putting Ishmael's memories in a block of 1245 Sothoth and 36 Cottie and hypertuning it because I joined in her patch and didn't know better 
Whatās the current meta Lightning wz team? Feral/CW/Nanaknight?
wait the slots of memories matter?
In the grand scheme, it doesn't really matter.
Nah, its minmax.
still wasted resources orz
Yea feel free to ask whenever!
Im very busy myself, so i sadly cant be here to be toxic
Knock yourself out 
Yeah, its just fun to freak out veterans by showing it 
Saw some double amp tech that outranks me. Is it skill issue on my part, or is it a new tech?
it's matter but It doesn't affect the stats that much.
Ill be back in action in about 5 days
Have a good trip
How do i unlock the chapter 15 of the collab story ?

Taunt Vergil
literally tells you when you click on it
Check pins
Is there a first time purchase bonus for rainbow cards?
only for black card conversion
mobile or pc
And itās still just 20/1 conversion
only for BC but that still isn't the best deal you can get
Mobile why
the supply packs are very good
Yes, I wouldn't recommend buying straight up BC either, it's not as good as buying packs.
Alr
Depends. The Weapon res mat one is dog.
Oh, supply, sorry canāt read
nergi is toxic enough so u good
i didn't buy those tbf
bruh I thought Yamato's pommel was Vergil's mouth xD
i bought the BC and summon tickets
Same. I got the shards for Vergil too
also the vergil shards iirc
Nice. Did you get SSS?
What one you referring to?
4 pulls away from it
i also got super lucky with dante sig + both cubs
Nice
In the shop there is a dmc pack with a material. Its dog, since its giga expensive
got early pulls
Same, just had to get to pity for all of it⦠except Dante cub. Got 2 in one 10pull
Now itās just chilling
yeah i used my spare bc for nanami on anni banner
I spent all my orange tickets on debut, am on 50 pity, and now have to pull hanying
Itās pain
Forgot that affix isnāt just Vergilā¦
affix?
Ultima slash.
ahh
I am min maxing my WZ scores. Itās pain. Especially when someone with solo SSS nanaknight outranks me.
my ss vergil losing to s dante in ignition vs ultima
Huh? What did you cook
Wrong build? Or bad rotation?
something is wrong 
they both have sig and cub
Im sorry hes what????
I recon it may be the rotation. Vergil rotation is wonky if youāre not familiar with him
except ignition has nanami and ts only has bergil doing dmg
Erm yeah...this shouldn't happen.
But nanami
reason: nanami
is it better crimeon wave maxed out with signature ss3 or startrail ss without signature
@craggy imp explain yourself kitten
Nanami is strong but S Dante shouldn't be beating SS Vergil if Dante is getting screen time.
Star trail, by a lot
star trail
u heard me
hes what??
Guys is theme or fated theme better to get vergil?
You don't have Hanying or Alisa right?...
who are u
yes correct
Uh, the 60 pity one. If you have good look, higher chance one.
Theme 60, all the time regardless of banner type. FATE=BAIT.
fate is good
If you donāt have enough bc and canāt get it the chance is higher in Fate
fate is gambling
Also i came back after idk how long and i dont know where to farm for gambling currency
which one is the daily/weekly/2weekly?
theoritically fate would be better and themed would be safer
I highly disagree, you shouldn't be pulling at all if you can't hit pity.
You clearly dont have the gambling mindset
True.
Did anyone else lose the 80/20 on Danteās weapon?
thankfully no
I...can't...
fate is grand order
i didnt lose cuz i didnt pull 
W h y ?
not my cup of tea
is it worth it to get ss3 epitaph? I have pyro ss3 and gera ss3 so not sure if its fine to keep him SS0 or if his dmg contribution matters a lot
feign ignorance, true.
I donāt think itās a lot. Since he barely sees field time.
Sorry i don't understand what is happening
ahh gotcha
is it needed to hypertune him? (I just pulled him S0, so im not yet familiar)
also im already getting decent score without the dmc brothers
in nutshell: jump, hold the middle bottom sword
Where are you getting him SS3 from? Anniversary? I'd suggest against it as he is good at SS3, it becomes free in the future through vouchers.
What team?
solo nanami
Oh ok
ā¦
then kill the boss
yea
Amp overrated?
what? no?
no?
Then where feral
why feral
Nanami investment? SS3-SSS?
Solo= Only Nanami
ss3
right now I have him S0, with skulls to SS0, but you're right, he's in selectors right? I didn't see him in voucher shop yet so wasnt sure if it may be a very long time but I'll hold off and just stay at ss0 then
would you recommend hypertune in the long run? not sure if his brief time on field needs it
feral old, just for buff qte
just use nanami luna and lilith
He's getting a leap
Geira?
ooh okay, hypertune it is then
I assume his main tank build from bot is fine
Gera can work too, its just that Lilith has more potential as f2p since voucher
whichever that has the higher ranks
He still takes a whole ult rotation, he still gets a fair enough of screentime, so yeah HT. Everyone on fire takes a rotation.
gotcha thanks much š«”
also does everyone on standard phys team also take a rotation? right now I have echo just swap in purely to trigger buff and immediately swap out
I saw that she has leap though (havent bought yet)
the leap is for glacio affix team
Whatās the rotation like?

Selena and Hanying gets majority of the screen time, Alisa may be on the field for like 2-5 seconds but the Leap for her is mainly Glaciation affix related.
i see ty! I'll chase glaciation much later
its literally just 3p and hold yellow and ult rinse and repeat
so when it shows the memories in the slots for the equipment goals, is that fine to just follow them, or do i need to watch out
So no Luna or Geira field time?
nope just nanami
I'd suggest against using the in game recommendation, its really strange and often inaccurate.
Crazy
why
ah
should I use the gray ravens website then?
go to #šØć»bot-info ! it has every build
use /build nameofframe to pull up your character
ty
You can go to #šØć»bot-info and type /build and the characters name and it will give you information on the unit, gray raven is in a weird spot, some stuff is up to date but other things aren't.
when you hold yellow, do you hold all the way until it ends or can you let go sooner?
I didn't try solo nana burn yet, just wondering what's the proper way to do it
it depends on ur energy but the optimal way would be her first 2 rotations can be done with half a bar > hold yellow > ult, the 3rd you need full bar > hold yellow till exactly half bar and release for faster animation > ult > 4th rotation you need 1x 3p to fill bar > hold yellow until she stops charging and jumps back, this will give enough energy for ult > 5th rotation you fill the bar with 1x 3p again > hold yellow until bar is completely drained then ult.
damn, I hoped it's just a static rota with no variation, but I guess it's not that easy 
is it worth it to get Scire for dark tank though vouchers/skulls (don't own her yet at all)
not sure if its a very noticeable upgrade from using XXI?
shes too old and possible be replaced soon so id say not
u could cope with lilith luna and wanshi for dark content
š«” thanks!
yeah I was shocked when I looked up how old scire was š
Your kidding
someone off rated 
they remove free lilith research ?
Yeah awhile ago
the free lilith banner should be permanent
prob you obtained her
it disappears when you get every high tier rewards from it
Hi Guys, I know it's not a question about the game itself, but about a soundtrack I wanna know about, when u open the High power zone, there is this calm song I didn't found around easily, there is anyone here who knows about it? You would help me a lot
did you try to search for it on youtube?
I did but couldn't find the trace, maybe it's a part of a long song but I didn't found it
spotify?
Either- Spotify doesn't have pgr menu or back soundtracks
you get it at 30 ?
Yeah since I got Yamato on the Dante draw
Weapon
the thing to change the lobby music?
Vro, how to do consecutive judgement cut with Vergil correctly with a mouse?
Wait what?! Seriously??
there Is a playlist with 189 videos pgr ots
after you obtained the free Lilith you unlock the gacha one with BC it's limited time
search in event thing if see it
Mhhhh
I searched in them too
Maybe I should search better because I couldn't find it
Most are the menu and the story ones
gl
Geiravor jumpscare
joker pgr version
shes so scary help
Everyone what is this, should i do it?š¤
yes, give extra Memory set
This is harmony, it allows you to bear extra 2pc of a memory set in the weapon
And yeah, its a big dmg boost
I see, im do it then
thank you all
Hi i am new to pgr any tips
Don't pull in arrival nor in fate banners
Read my name, its actual advice
Okay tq
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/29822082/characters
who do I ss or should I save for someone else, like selena or hanying soluctune or idk
Explore the 37 characters of Astrofo from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Also join a sensei to give you guide missions, they help you lvl up really fast
- dont pull for dmc collab characters
- pull for nanami star Trail current in meta 3 teams
- spennd all serum in simulated battlefield
- washi, alisa are free in dorm
- you have 37 days left before next patch
- next patch all rewards are 2x
- A ranks character are weak so no meta
- there Is no tier list
- pgr work like every time a S rank character is available directly replace the old one of same element and class
Done
- pull for solacetune for Vergil team
- get washi to SSS with voucher in the shop
Also there are free characters that because of that they aren't worth pulling, like Daemonissa, Lucid Dreamer, Echo, Kaleido, Feral and Crimson Weave
dawg sss is late game matter im new
COATING RERUN
Character - Coating
- Vera: Garnet - Grandiose Glamor
- Liv: Empyrea - Dreamcatcher
- Luna: Oblivion - Tained Moonrise
- Karenina: Scire - Neon Dynamite
Should i pull for luna obli
SSS is much easier than qu SS with 6 sign
One day, but she isn't priority
i dont have vouchers to do that
atm no, focus on lighting cause the fastest team you can complete
can afford one ss only for now
oh
waits for tsubaki
Tbh with normal voucher economy, if you aren't buying bp you'll only get SSS Wanshi when he's close to replacement 
here the priority for voucher for the future
the 3x rewards was a huge boost for f2p
I asked for ppc store exchange though..
Its whoever you need the most right now
I wish I knew
imo pull solacetune then SS her with ppc skull
Solacetune for Vergil first, then Parhelion
i am not investing into him i pulled him only for collection didnt get his wep or anything
ohhhh
although I do am pulling hanying
try to get Alisa echo she is free dorm shop
yeah trying that aswell 1x patch is rough
yessir ss3
Are old gen chars are even still used today
ah ok
no 21, and (someone)
they are for babel for higher scores/fun
scire count? 
For Vergil Yamato i should get this ?š¤
yes
Ok š
I feel like you could generate enough orb by just basic attacks with vergil
so do I ss ishmael or save for either selena/bianca/hanying
still can't believe kuro dropping a new attacker instead of a tank
Nvm it only applied to beowulf
theyre actually trolling
scire is immortal
lamia isn't even that bad either
solid toliet flusher
if you want SS ishmael= 30% DMG extra during domain expansion, signature cost 12 less energy, 1 extra orb in the domain expansion
dead fish
yo chat how much of an upgrade is Vergils CUB
she does stand in the middle of the toliet flush
or should i target vergil copies
or sir
I dont think that will solve orb issue for no sig ishmael? can it do 2 rotation in one field time
what you have right now SS Vergil ?
Ult damage 1.5x
Yes i do and vergils sig
Ah okay ill keep that in mind then
then go for the cub
Kk ty
for the skill always the 2 on the bottom
Uh couldja explain what this means sorryy
The last two passives for every cub is the same
when you get the cub you have 2 empty slots for skills
One is the character unique buff one is the elemental percent buff
Everyone uses those two
on your cub, when you're leveling it up and leveling its skills
you can pick 2 equippable skill
the best choose is start from the bottom
Ohhh okayy
Alright ill keep it in mind then ty
Ohh alright alright thanks
imo ish wep> SS
6 free orbs extra DMG 10% and 10% buff or debuff for when tank or amp

I am unable to balance Vergil ultimate slash
Like I can't get the sharpness as high as the slash at self
Vergil and dante became lil bit frustrating for some reason 
I do not have Vergil so I can't help you
Ok what about dante?
time to pull to be a better helper
What is the problem with Dante?
he's bad?
Damage issue , and yes I am using his kit right I just I feel like I am missing am
Something*
Meta for ignition
from what I know
Dante SSS> Lucia pyro SS
Lucia pyro SS3 > SSS+ dante
@slender minnow dante S
And lets say just his sword is 5star (I'm close to getting his sig)
Oh?
that's actually funny
from where u get that info lmao
S Dante = very bad not good damage
Ah.
so vera still way better
I was looking a bit on reddit and other sources. I said from what I know, I'm not saying I'm 100% sure
Yes
uwhere sleeping then
Me for real, trust me bro
show from where u got it
send the link
since u didnt test it but got it from someone else u should atleast have a link to that source
Duh, how I am supposed to remember exactly where I found
clown
Ok
hi im new to this game š
what free s rank do i select?
5 star what
the s rank selector pack mb
the first one you get with only like 5 characters?
yea
If you mean this itās for fire team not ignition my dude
It entirely depends upon your team investment! Dante can take the place of Pyroath as the main DPS for the Fire team if she is at a significantly lower investment level than him, such as SS-Rank without her Signature Weapon, or you do not own her. A SSS-Rank Dante with his Signature Weapon is on par with a SS3-Rank Pyroath and Signature Weapon, so do bear that in mind.
Which is from gray ravens
whichever one you want, since they're all outdated anyway, though tenebrion is technically the best out of them all i guess
meta for ultima slash but you're not gonna see much ultima slash content as a new player for a while
better to have something than never
both are prettty irelevant in fire anyway
vera is dealing the dmg
Fire is a one rot per member team
where do you see Watanabe in the voucher shop?
Not 100% sure, next patch with Bianca and Wata leap
Why is she on 2 DV, its Wata's job to do that 
Just a dumbass trying to prove nothing
Oh this guy is a dumbass
Like i can just use vera wata and literally anyone else and the boss will still die in 2 ult
Iām talking about WZ and he brining ppc into this for some reason
Lmao
Help?
Every ppc boss is one character burst and die I dunno what the point is supposed to be lmao
Use the bot
Idk being a dumbass is his thing
Heās kinda well known for that too lol
Good to know
Bot can say if is good? and Understand what l doing?
Use the celica bot, command is / build
I need to understand why Eclipse is being built there
Prob new player following ingame recc build
Could be
Main Support Set
QTE Support Healer/Buffer
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
QTE support set.
4x Da Vinci
2x Philip II
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
None
Make Vergil Stronger
Don't tell me you believed that meme pic 
Just get echo lol
what you mean?
There's a meme image of Vergil and Dante meta team being outdated A-ranks
But for Vergil, its better to gather dispatch coins from dorm to unlock Alisa:Echo than to spend it in building A-ranks
and?
It was with hanying and someone else not eclipse iirc lol
Echo can Heal?
Yep. All amps heal
Hello there! Who should I get from the anni banner? https://huaxu.app/eu/players/28201464/characters
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There's only one 5S or 6S Bow for her? ;-; Damn Echo
1st are you a whale
2nd if yes luna if no how many bc you have left rn
Hanying Solacetune or Luna Oblivion or better, both
is there a way to dante and vergil for free im new to the game
Can destroy Liv and her XP level and put to level Echo?
Did you spend the starter 6* weapon choice pack?
Nop
In the Begin of the game?
Nope not a whale! But I do have the MPA and BC monthly pack 2x (don't remember too well how it's called) currently since I bought Geiravor's skin and had leftover RC. But not planning to spend anymore;; I have around 48 pity on the anni banner, so close
Years ago?
Its a 6* weapon choice pack that goes up to Luna Laurel weapon iirc
Get luna, shes flexible and you can use her in quite a lot of different team
After that probably hanying
Luna? Luna?! WAS GOING TO GET LUNA FOR FREE?!
Oh
wait
Alright! Worth pulling for Hanying too? Or rather save up for Bianca?
Her older version
The old Luna
but if you have such weapon selector pick Tonitrus (Bianca Veritas' weapon) to use on Alisa:Echo
If you clear all the content in game you should be able to get both but prioritize bianca
Oh My....
wait a minute
And yes hanying is really strong and shes not getting replaced anytime soon
Okay, thank you! I'll save up BC until I have enough for guaranteed and see how much I have by the end of the anni banner ā¤ļø
Who should I go for?
Alright good luck
Nanami Startrail if you don't have her already
Nanami startrail if you don't have her
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Please
Look
What l've Done
You picked Crimson Abyss weapon? 
ok
Lucia Weapons
Well, if you picked crimson abyss weapon instead of tonitrus then there isn't much you can do 
Man what this
Aside of putting Echo on 4DV 2 Philips I guess
You just need 4 pc of memory set to get the buffs from it @raw idol
The game was telling crazy Builds
Never trust the game
Use Celica bot for reference instead in the future
Don't trust the game guide use the Celica bot in #šØć»bot-info use the command /build (character name)
ima using this now: GRAY RAVENS - GRAY RAVENS https://share.google/uu3rsc409oJUu3Ug4
This might be worse than the game tbh 
if i just started the game how long would it take to get vergil?
also how does one get dante because iirc people said dante was free
Are you williing to no life the game for 37 days? 
Lamento di phantasma chapter 6
Okay, Thank you guys. You guys are the Best.
...37???
Yeah, this patch and DMC banner end in september 18th
why would i need to no life š
Because to do basic invest on Vergil you'll need 23k bc
Next mission: dry up all contents of the game
uh
does that mean i need 23k of those ticket thingies to get his s-rank version
Not only his S-rank version, you'd want his 6* weapon and the cub too
Though the cub I suppose its less of a priority
what if i just want his character š
Then you only need 10.5k bc
oki oki
You'll be able to get it till the end of the patch easily
wait bc is like the black cards right
Yep
ok i have uh 1330 of them
doesn't he need like 80 pulls tho
Are there any sigs even f2ps should get? Or should f2p skip sigs entirely to save for upcoming characters?
You pulled on fate banner?
no i havent pulled yet
Pull on his event themed instead, the one with 60 pity
Oh ok good
At what level can I increase my units more?
whats the difference besides pity
Units lvl max 80
And what is the maximum level?
Fated has 1% extra chance per pull, but that's it. And the pity isn't necessarily 80, can flutuate between 80 and 100
Ok they are level 80. But they feel weak
Join a sensei to give guide missions for you, you'll get to lvl 40 in no time
sensei?
Lvl up skills, weapons, memory resonance, hypertune
Instructor
oh
how do i join one?
Drop me your id you will be my student
What is best for vergil?
Go there
20498935
betting 5$ he's on diff server
im only lvl 8 so idk if i can get a mentor yet
plot twist
also yeah im na lol


you won
wow who would have thought 
go to #šØć»bot-info and type
/build vergil
Did they fix the Vergil bot? 
Ok thank you
what does getting an extra copy of vergil do
Now go to last Vegas and gamble all your money trust me you will win
where's my 5$ tho
You rank to SS
gets you shards
With enough shards, you can increase his rank (SS/SSS/SSS+)
huh
so basically once you summon him for the first time you can get him to SS?
thank you for having a real take on ZZZ
Buy one get one free
Yes, because he isn't available in a mode called pain cage that gives you skulls, which you use to SS normal units for free
amazon ahh deals
Because they are a collab, their SS can't be farmed
did u find a good coop pve game yet
Borderlands 2 
op 10 with all character done
axton bad
Minecraft with mods
ngl i might be cooked
i have genshin, hsr, wuwa, pgr, and zzz on my phone
no
ive been having my eye on daemon x machina 2 for AWHILE
ho should i get now,istill have 2 S's to get one on standard banner and another from thunder
Get Alisa echo she is free from the dorm shop
Uhā¦
Get nanami startrail
nanami
i think about nanami star and Ishmael
Lightning spark
not released yet i see
ok
ya i'm work on that too š
oh im crying what is this
Get Nanami Startrail on standard
Do not pull on thunder. You need the money.
If its too late and you already pulled, Hanying: Solacetune for your Vergil
who do i use it on
Nanami Storm, she's an alternative for physical tank until you get Solacetune
when i find something il ping you first
oooh ok
for the black cards do i just keep doing those battle story. thingies
Story, stronghold, golden vortex, extra story, dailies and weeklies
Why do none of the packs give yellow ticketsš« š«
i started getting blue protocol in recommended after looking for a good game
i dont know what number 2 and 3 are but ill figure it out
OH! I'm playing that rn! Just on the CN servers and there are HURDLES to get through in order to get on the CN server. It's a lot of fun!
Combat can get a little dull because of the small amount skill you can have on your hot bar and the boss mechs aren't crazy yet but it just started and its very enjoyable
lets hope it doesnt get blade and soul treatmentš«
PLEASE 
release was peak but after that it went downhill
its so bad right now 

anyway any info for global date on bp
whos lucia crimson weave and what does she do
not yet sadly ):
u get her for free but dont invest too much cause nanami is way better
i also got a uh
no 21 feral?
just do the missions related to them and dont invest further
do it after u get cw and 21
for the anniversary summon thingy who do i select
Nanami startrail if you do not have her
isnt that the base thingy
what the anniversayr limited
Are there any sigs even f2ps should get? Or should f2p skip sigs entirely to save for upcoming characters?
#šØć»bot-info message u basically want all meta teams with nana being the prio but for exact order ask tomorrow when more folks are here
For most of character sign wep is must pull / get
how do i unlock stronghold and golden vorte
lvl 60 or 65
Is it normal to be nonstop broke or am I playing the game wrong
noctis is just free during his patch?
also for the insatiable research what do i do with that
while youre still constantly building characters, yes. just take a break from catching up on story and dump your serum in simulated battlefield every once in a while to buy cog packs and whatever else you need
Was free
yes you can
Been doing that quite a lot but I feel like I'm barely getting anywhere haha. Is it smart to fully max a character out? I've been kinda mimicing what I've been doing with Crimson Weave so far with a handfull of S ranks, but I'm still lowkey clueless on what I'm doing
if a character is just a QTE bot, then you dont need to max them out, just level their QTE and class skills, otherwise if it's an onfielder then yes, you normally max everything out
youre eventually gonna catch up in building everyone though and be overflowing in resources, so its jjust a thing you deal with when youre starting out
Where can find a good PGR Tier List for characters?
the tier list is just the newest character for the role and element is the meta, so there isn't really a need for a tier list
there's none but here is meta list
can also use this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?gid=0#gid=0
anyone knows how i can land like 4 judgement cuts in a row to get the jackpot voiceline
So what's best way to eval if character is good?
a lot of people will just tell you if it's not a character on that meta teams list then they're not a good character anymore lol
just try and go with the latest characters for each element like i mentioned
Rule of thumb is that the newer, the better, with some exceptions like Startrail and Geiravor
what memories are better for lilith? i only have her, vergil, dante, lucia cw, feral and luna oblivion
does this matter and if it does which one do I check?
Use the /build command in #šØć»bot-info
alr
What does no 21 feral do
Iām close to pity on the weapon banner, whoās weapon should I set it to? If they have a red border they have there sig, if they have a orange they have the 5 star versions and if they have a purple it means I use them but they have a 4 star weapon, if they are crossed out then I donāt use them

Heal, lightning buff now days used just qte bot
Do I use her with crimson weave
Theyāre the only s ranks I have rn besides tenebrion
Yes they share the same element
Ok
yes, if you don't have startrail then you just solo with CW with a tank and feral as QTE bots
which A rank cub is better?
if you dont have lingya yet, get that since it's used a good amount for it's additional orb passive, otherwise, they're all meant for different elements
anyone have a guide to max the dorm?
what do you mean by maxing the dorm
who should i go for from the anniversary limited
Ishmael
how many BCs and yellow event construct tickets do you have?
mb mobile doesnt have fast notifs
im saving bcs for vergil
i have 2800 construct tickets
in that case, i wouldnt pull on anniversary banner at all then since you can't guarantee a character with that amount and the pity will transfer to the next anniversary banner
just save and pull for the new bianca next patch
ooh ok ty
CUB
so I heard that the previous two patches were giving a major influx in rewards, how significant is the drop off from now on in terms of patch rewards? or do we still have some ways from catching up
how do i use codes and are there any avaiblae rn
3x vs 1x
damn, that's rough
nothing major really changes, you can still afford all the stuff you would've been able to afford from a 2x or 3x patch, it just takes longer
so how do general pull plans go in pgr, do you mark which teams you want to specialize in and only really pull for those elements/roles? I heard you want 3-5, but since I did hear it's around 15k bc this patch, is that generally the normal amount? If so, how does one go about affording let's say characters on reruns/selectors
what can i exchange trade voucher for
is there any SS priority list or smth
im tryna figure out how to get vergil fast
you pull every new s rank
really
generally the way they normally release patches is they do an S rank patch followed by a free character patch
ahh
the free character patch, you save your currency, so you have 2 patches worth of income to buy every new S rank
you can't guarantee their weapon though, but you'll eventually get enough extra BC to pull on it
Who to get on anniversary banner
thank you
if you want to guarantee pulls for every new non-free S character AND at least try for their weapon, you need to at least buy a monthly pass, otherwise you can just expect to get every new S rank
- Startrail, 2. Ishmael, 3. Solacetune, 4. Pyroath, 5. Oblivion are all of the best choices
I am fine getting the monthly pass, so i guess that means i can do that?
Why ishmael? Should I pull her even thought I donāt have luna
so wait actually, is the free character patch thing the way that lilith daemon whatever was released?
I was there for her patch
ya, lilith was a free character patch
you were supposed to save during her patch if we werent accelerated
As a support unit she's still pretty solid for new accounts since she can fill any tank or amp slot in the team
very rarely do they screw us with consecutive paid S rank character patches like theyre doing right now
If you're missing many BiS she's really good to have to conserve on pulls with
also how tight is the stamina drain/acquisition?
I missed all 3x patches, will it ever come back or was it just to catch up with cn
Most notably dark team as the tank
ish without luna is useless
Damn
I wouldn't say useless but she will do way less damage as she doesn't have any buffs
There are some builds around that tho
by stam you mean serum? i never paid attention to that tbh so can't help you there, especially since im a long time player that doesnt care about serum as much anymore
As far as Oblivion's value she's insane as a support attacker
okay good to hear, since I'm running out atm trying build multiple characters
Her universal conversion means you can run the most optimal hypercarry possible
Who should I pull then
ya, its a slog getting all your characters built in the beginning but you'll eventually become overflowing with resources once you catch up
Solacetune
amp literally useless apart from memory carrier, any shred useless
holy moly batman, that SSS+
how does one get bc/tickets fast for vergil
rn it seems pretty slow and the only consistent source is. story battles
SSS+ jetavie was free lol
luna lmao
Itās A rank not hard to get
jeta s+ was free during last patch
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all A rank characters were SSS+ for free during our accelerated schedule
luna enables u ice, dark and light zaza and gives u option to actually do cope void
solacetune gives u better phys
choose wisely
Would Alisa be able to replace solacetune
Mind you zaza doesn't work for physical, and solacetune is needed there
You need both
phys is trash anyway
truers
Bruh
Alisa is amp, Hanying is tank
luna is best value for starters cuz at least ur ice, light and dark wont be as dog assuming u have nanami
but she needs ss and sig
this chick?
luna? only for void
ss doesnt give u anything for zaza
She doesn't need anything for zaza
hmm what am i missing whats zaza
Would the pity on this banner transfer to next patch or no
my nihil team sucks
no
anniv banner pity = anniv banner pity
so next year or 0.0001% chance in december if we by some miracle inherit cn anniv as well
Damn so I can only get Luna
cant grief getting walter so yeah
Can I just use nanami as a tank for my teams until I get that teams specific tank
if you have luna you can use nana's shred in all ele teams
Or lilith amp for other team if it has tank
So u can do pretty much wanshi/nanami, luna, lilith
Works for ice/light + dark
Or gera, nanami, lilith for fire if u have geiravor
No pyroayh for fire?
pyrofraud weaker than vera unless she's sss
Damn bruh
time to prepare nana for burn wz 
Zaza is unconventional team. Luna makes all buffs and debuffs from allies turn to omni-element
Which means you can use something like nanami startrail to shred dark for lilith
Because the lighting shred turns to omni element
guys wich is best material to expend on memory reso?
simulation score
if you already have 6* memory shards or an excess amount of the silver top thingies, use those first
what's the silver top is used for?
weapon harmony, but if you dont have anything else to harmonize, then you can use it for the memory resonance
ty friend
Withering waves better
https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/s/3RYZNjMAzc
is this the first global range ult in the game?
couldve sworn couple of my ults missed while fighting virgil when he was flying
Does einsteina work on affixes or just the original elements?
Original elements except Phy.
also how long would it take to get vergil if im at story chapter 2 rn and im lvl 31
why does ppc have limited number of tries while wz doesnt?
Apparently it does work with affix
pretty long
not a lot of events this patch so it'll take long but you can probably get him before the patch ends, maybe
get to level 40 so you can do weeklies for bc
Using Einsteina on Lucid Dreamer will reduce the ice elemental resistance on the enemies, and Glacio damage also benefits that resistance reduction
Wz was rework. It used to have 2 cycles per week.
can i get him if i play casually
i only need 5 more 10 pulls
yea
fun fact, WZ also used to have a limit that prevented you from completing it in one go
wdym, you could only do a wave a day or smth?
they'd only let you do 1 zone per day
also, WZ used to be twice a week instead of once
anybody know how much BC each main story chapter gives?
is there a chart or smth
Uh
270 on average
you didnt complete it
look at the objectives bottom left
oh
doi have to wait till tmrw
thanks
also how do i grind lvls im lvl 31 tryna get 40 so i can get dante
finish your guide missions and spam simu battle ig
spam all serum (or most i guess) into simulated battlefiled
ok ty
save some serum for main story
use them until there's 2 weeks remaining in the patch, then start saving them for next patch
ok
If the assumption were rights and we get an integrated version in the next update, keeping your serum for it will be worth it
integrated version?
multiple patches in one
Version when everything is multiplied
big brain move is to buy serum pass 29 days before next patch 
Ah okay
ā¦that happens??!
so the old memo resonators dont worth buy anymore?
The last version was 3x integrated version
Would anyone explain to me what roll the 'Vanguard' class plays?
You weren't there yet?
Bruhhh
I joined today
That's unfortunate
which are you talking about exactly?
any tip for bc grind after nerf of daily and weekly rewards
oh, you still buy those from WZ shop
Is vanguard used as a support type of class? Or attacker? It's not clear to me what vanguard is.
use them if youre too lazy to deal with memory reso RNG
nothing, they are just there to bait newbies
those chars are outdated since... years, there is no content where you need em, and doesn't seem like kuro gonna make them relevant ever again
tldr: just ignore them
It's an outdated dps role
with this have no rng in case?
Used for specific content only and it no longer appears as often
yes, you get to pick exactly what you want, you usually prioritize them for bottom reso for specific things like class skill / signature move / core passive reso
@pearl laurel @ivory ermine well great. I leveled up crocatta to 80 cause I needed a placeholder for my dark team. At least I only used XP capsules
You can get Lilith: Daemonissa soon enough for free for your Dark dps and your dark team and she'll be a thousand times stronger than him
You can just ignore everything about Crocotta after this
@ivory ermine I do have her, and luckily her sig and cub from last month. And jetavie at SSS+. I thought vanguard would be a makeshift tank from how his skills sounded.
@ivory ermine I'm currently weighing on whether to use my remaining 15k BC to get either Vergil or Dante to SSS or if it's more worth it to use it to pull Ishmeal from the current event banner.
well do u have luna ?
any tips for grinding BC after daily and weekly quest nerf
it's not a nerf, it's the norm 

norm ?
ye its normal
yes, that is the normal bc income with normal, single patches
are u on ult PPC?
Can you believe the game ran for 3 years with the current patch's income
insane 
Crazy right? Start getting used to it 
ppc stand for ?
i already did my weeklies
eh wait another week
while trying sss vergil and dante
no I don't have luna. I have heard that Ishmeal is a good makeshift support for multiple element teams and could help me fill multiple holes. But she isn't available from any S Rank selectors which is why I'm considering her
r on ult or advanced tho?
i need motivation for grinding BCC in the main story stuff all that reading
ult bc i have skill issue
ult is the harder one
advanced?
hm ok
let me check rq
yeah
but
i donāt got motivation for it
i need Motivation
they gib yellows, not bc
gimme some motivation
boss alr i havenāt touched them so ill grind
or even do construct tuts for some
tuts ?
bro why am i clueless about these words
have u completed stronghold? theres that to complete too
tutorials
there some i havenāt completed it
ill grind it
Its not recommended to get ish before luna.
alr thank you now i got my Motivation Breakfast
im grinding vergil sig
whats ur huaxu?
@livid tinsel my what?
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
How are Dante and Virgil so far? Strong or weaker than many character?
theyre strong in their respective affix, but other than that, weak
Good in their respective affix content, bad otherwise lol
Instead of a cope tank/support ish, you can jut use zaza(luna, lilith, startrail ) for any elemental.
All in all they're skipable
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i mean, if u want them, go for it
That's not exactly how it works, but I like where ur head's at
@livid tinsel hold up I'll try setting mine up
Guys what and how will I grind the materials so that I can memory resonance?
I'm so close to awakening Dante again
@pastel crater okay thanks for the advice I'll wait on ish then
simulated battlefield
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Nice
Thanks

@livid tinsel my huaxu is 29614837
u dont have startrail yet?
youve got a decent roster, but startrail is always a priority pull
@livid tinsel no. I was thinking on not getting her through the event banner because I still have access to the S rank selector from Thunderbolt research.
You should use that for like hangying or Pyroath. Startrail is more priority to get
he;s got hanying already at SS
ye use the gacha in thunderbolt to get pyroath
u have her other teammates already
@pastel crater @livid tinsel I figured since I have Dante as my fire I can hold off on Pyroath for a while. I do plan to get her in the future.
@livid tinsel I know about that. But since I'm mostly f2p with little resources I'd prioritize making basic teams in each element that way I can complete content for weekly challenges and events
same I need to save resources
besides Dante has more aura
Solo vera for fire team...
@pastel crater @livid tinsel not to mention that I'm a broke sob
Which Uniframe should I get
so u wanna prioritise completing teams first?
any really. theyre not strong
none, and those things won't gib you any characters
@livid tinsel that's what I believe would be the smart move. I just want to be capable of completing most content before thinking about meta
Pull startrail, you got complete ignition and lightning.
so in hero wz theres better dmg with ignition rn. Is it always like that or will ultima have more dmg too in coming weeks
i mean, u can get ish then. She can solo for a bit until u need to get luna for weeklies
she wont do much in PPC tho
itd be a lot better to get startrail, then pyroath from thunderbolt so that u have their complete teams tho
?
are you talking about the full realm support buff or something?
it changes weeekly
@livid tinsel @pastel crater I'm probably overthinking this too much. But I figured that if I wait to pull Startrail from thunderbolt research later, and use this event banner to pull characters not ordinarily available that it might save me in the long run.
theyre set values, so the numbers you see won't change but the elements will be different every week and the full realm support buffs always correspond to the element/affix
the most meta, and cheap, and more smart thing to do is complete the teams u have readily available
u only need those 2 to complete thei respectice teams
if u really want ish, then go for it. Dont let meta hold u back
@livid tinsel Gotcha. Then I'll go ahead and pull Startrail then.
yea i got that
i mean if u still have some bc, u can try pulling for luna in the arrival contstruct
you can get ish from anniv then
luna leaves tmr tho 
Does anyone here have any Idea when will be the next free S rank selector? I want to pull epitaph for Dante but they said it's going to be free so I'm rethinking my pull.
I just came back to the game so my comp is still old schoolš.
@livid tinsel Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we getting another Blue Banner selector next month?
next patch, it'll have characters up to qu shukra
wait next patch has a selector? whats the priority there for a brand new account?
watanabe for darkflow content no?
we're getting a qu selector again, not blue check
watanabe is a better pick than qu anyways
well imo
qus really hot doh
watanabe is tuff tho
thats true...
epitaph to complete ur fire team lol
Qu for hot legs
his shred also does amazing damage in most situations
@livid tinsel ah okay. In that case it would be better to pull Startrail anyway since she won't be available through that
startrail is peak!!!
damn, if I pull pyroath from thunderbolt I am still bricked because my best 3rd slot in fire is...sophia

how
I just came back to the game on a brand new account 2 days ago 
bro js start a new acc
old account is cooked (gen 2 dps only, quit before synchro)
uhhh, no ishmael?
just restart your acc bro
How much xp does a simulated run give
that's literally what I did
except I couldn't restart I just went to Asia-Pacific cause Europe has too small player count

why no vera btw?
isnt that good
that means easier wz clears
no because whales get hyper inflated scores in PPC
well before the rework it was hell
idk how it is now, I haven't done new PPC
commandant XP? it's 1:1 based on how much serum you spend
because I started 2 days ago bro š„
Ooh ok
- I will just snipe Vera from standard cause I'm better than everyone else
vera is a W pick
ngl if you started later you could of chose startrail out of thunderbolt and vera out of selector
I don't have future sight like that
I didn't even know thunderbolt was a thing I came back blind
now I have 30k BC for Bianca and 39 more days of the patch left
its better to start now anyways, pgr is the game where if you start now youād be at a big disadvantage
I still haven't unlocked stuff like Cursed Waves or Matrix too
add that to the tickets pile
you not pulling dmc?
not a fan of dmc
ah alr
the event story was sweet though I might play dmc5
well vergil might be a decent pick i wont lie
just his investment is a bit high
but are you pulling on anniv banner?
nah better to get Bianca and have reserves for future patches
thing is we dont know whats in the future patches, those units might be buns
they probably wont if im being honest tho
that just means more BC saving for me
How long does it take to restore 1 ml of serum
6 minutes~
Iām cooked š„
are you level 40 yet?
So I got another question. How many 6* weapon shards can I get from scrapping a 6* weapon?
I think its 50
That is game accurate too
dont scrap em, use em for reso
Veronica will be dark tank to end Scires 9 year reign of terror

@livid tinsel I still have the free 6* weapon selector you get as a new account. But it doesn't benefit any of my current roster.
use it for resonance
You sure? Is your Alisa harmo'd?
rip karenina
also my old account skipped Karen so there was no saving it from that moment on
@zinc juniper no. I don't have her sig either which is why I hesitate to reso anything with her or Hanying for that reason
then get Tonitrus to harmo her
it's basically 90% of her sig which exists purely for you to harmo
@zinc juniper isn't tonitrus for another character tho?
no, Alisa uses bows
get bonked
@zinc juniper looking at it, it only amps lightning damage though. Is it still better than her 5* physical one?
yeah you really need that harmo for Alisa to be worth slotting anywhere
let her rest she is tired
@zinc juniper but even if I get tonitrus I don't have another 6* to harmonize it.
who's sakuya and why do i always see them in WZ 
You don't need one
it's my alt sorry
@ivory ermine OOH I didn't know that
sometimes I get bored of retaining scout š

oh you can buy the AE-5 currency from the event shop, didn't know that
Sup strangers, I started playing 2 days and I was planning to get shukra tho the target pull as my first s rank but i got crimson and feral through the event should I even bother pull shukra?
There's a free selector next patch that has Shukra in it if you really want her
Target pull? Blue banner? If so, pull startrail
whens veronica gameplay dropping
discord isn't even in beta yet
@zinc juniper is it more worth to harmo da vinci, Or Phillip for Alisa Echo?
da vinci
you can swap them anytime so DW about it
Ight
@zinc juniper okay good.
Wht is starrail good for?
the real question would be what is startrail not good for
Physical and ultima slash
Ice and glacio too
startrail haters in the chat š


