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Gone, you missed it /j
It finished 2 days ago..
Go fixing ur luna's build first
, it hurts to see it
Showing 2b off during dmc collab 
Gotta show off the better collab 😄
the dmc cutscenes are satisfying ngl
Nier was peak
For Vergil n Dante what's best 3 to choose for weapon
what pulls should I do for vergil to make him even stronger? (or do I start pulling for dantes and his stuff)
DLT is pretty much all they need.
And atk+15 with Singutre move for their memories
Work on dante now, going more into vergil is kinda ehh at this point since he is already SSS - sss+ is only damage.
how many BC can a mid account get in one month?
ok
Correct yes.
Tyyy
hey guys, what does Enemy Data mean ?
Like the damage increase is great but It's not worth 6 more pities.
Fake whels 
Like any other attackers, it will always be dlt, glorious, ml/ incan
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/25324301/characters i am about to unlock the thunderbolt banner choice box and I am thinking of getting startrail from there... since i still have the blue ticket banner, should i save it for future constructs like vera or pull someone on there?
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Yeah u can get 3 ss3's or almost 2 sss for that
U can go like that, vera comes to the blue banner next patch
Nanami
Sounds like a good plan.
idk if i would be able to play her tho with my characters
Ss vera plus her sig and dlt is enough to solo, she's main dps for fire now
She's a self sufficent character as long as you have a tank she will do great damage.
oh so she doesn't need pyroath right?
I may be dumb, but I thought u could get a free Dante? Where do I obtain that, or what do I do to obtain it? I can’t find the info
To functional yeah, just paired nanami with her also good as nanami can be cope fire tank
Pyroath is bonus, she fills in for Veras downtime and does good damage.
alright thank you all then
The new story event, chapter 6 gives him, its very quick.
Story
do cub for devil may cry will stay or will leave as soon as character leave ?
Everything involved with the collab will go.
is hanying free ?
naw
No
still 3x BC?
You can select her on the blue banner, if you do A ranks have 80% probability
can most of the content be cleared with a single strong team?
no you will need multiple
so if you like a character it's not recommended to go all in and invest everything on that?
Absolutely NOT
Sure you can but I wouldn't expect them to clear EVERYTHING.
im gonna punish your gray raven
Banned
still 3x on my weekly. bug?
is cub is a must for devil may cry character ?
x1 
No more x3 next week

Who do I spend my ppc skulls on? Daemonissa is already ss https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters
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Watanabe.
And that's because I can get Wanshi SS through vouchers right?
Yes
Alright
Skulls are limited resources so spending them on free S ranks isn't advised.
Watanabe will be in the voucher shop next patch too IF WE SYNC so you can wait on him and SS Bianca too, that's also an option but that's 40+ days away.
NEW Characters Coming to PGR? When? New F2P Vergil Team when?
How much storage is PGR on iPhone?
Dream
We have Dark Bianca after DMC, Discord A rank and Veronica or Liv after that. We don't know if there will be a F2P Ultima slash tank yet.
U can have f2p Vergil team without Vergil🤣
Prob the same like android, around 30 gb
Yes just get hanying in this case haha
Come on, can't survive that game without vergil. Dantei? No thank you.
U can
build for Vergil and Dante? When I looked up earlier today they both had like 10 options, now it only shows 1 for each, is that the definitive build for both?
they only always had 1 build. the other builds was a little mischief troll by bot owner
but earlier today they both had like 10 builds each on the bot, now it only shows 1 for each, is that one that shows now the best build for them?
@tall sentinel scammer
Scam being Scam

People Don't understand build anyway: Cause Read WORDS?!
is any of these weapons worth it or is it better if i scrap it? i heard the bow can be used by echo
who should be unlocked first from the dorm between lucid dreamer, echo and kaleido?
yes that's the best thing to do
Tonitrus for echo
wanshi > echo > kaleido
thanks
If we purchase the bundle do we get the character?
what does Enemy Data Rank change ?
click the icon of the bundle, i think it shows u exactly what u are getting
Shows this.
yes choose tonitrus to harmonize echo in the future
how many of those shards?
50 of those shards will get you the character
If you don't own him, this will not get him out right, this is 30 shards.
its advised to pull him first then get this
wow so he's really gacha only
Thanks!
Yes he is gacha only.
Where can i get trade vouchers? 
wait is there a sss+?
There is but its incredibly expensive for base S ranks to achieve this.
is it worth it
Not really, it takes a total of 11 copies to get S - SSS+ - - Sticking to SSS is more than enough for EVERYONE.
11 is madness
would that cost over 100 dollars to get?
If you go into event, go to Thunderbolt manual>event guide you will then see all the events giving vouchers.
I love virgil I might do it....
Hundreds of dollars.
Don't,pls
you will need pretty much by out the entire shop+ maybe even more.
do you think virgil will return?
Like Nier,no
Can't say, most likely no.
if its more then 100 ig imma just get him sss
thanks then
After SSS you no longer have get the buy 1 get 1 free
So it becomes increasingly more expensive to pay for with real money.
And is fate banner better then normal?
Unless you are a giga whale avoid fate banners entirely.
Hopefully you enjoy your time here.
Anyone here can vc?
I got virgil ss imma just do story to do the normal and get sss
thanks
Enjoy your time
Have fun play forever never leave
can anyone explain to me like I'm 5 how to enter devil trigger with Vergil?
I got lucky and pulled him now I just need to pull him again coz story completion gives 10k
which is enough for pity
You need 5 copies for SSS.
ohhh
Pulling him twice is only 4 copies.
ok thanks
should I try test my luck for the last copy on fate?
So you’d need to either pull him again after you pull 2 more vergils (pull 1 gst 1 free only is valid twice) or buy 30 shards for 50$
Absolutely not.
<@&595893856554319873>

actually I could do the other mode that gives 5k
Oh mama they're going at it
and get another pity
What mode.
They spamming it on all channels?
the inter thing
What?
Wdym?
interludes
When is it unlocked?
Ok so that’s 15k bc
Well I don't really care about Dante
That’s only 85. That’s not even 2 pitties
I just want virgil after I get him sss ill try get him maybe
Bro slow down. Dante is free.
isn't pity 60?
just swipe
Yes and 60 + 60 is not 85.
You’ve done ZERO story? And u have enough stamina for all?
isnt a pity like 10k
Nier did rerun, brs no
It’s 10.5k
I haven't spent it
Do u have Vergil signature weapon?
only the war mode and stuff from mail
no
Forget about SSS Vergil. Get SS+ weapon + cub.
is the ice sword his
It’s Yamato.
Yeah
ok ty

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Feck enough plasma for first day 410w will have to do for now

What should 223 223 111 get?
I havent even learnt pyroath fire rot yet😭
Good luck
Altho its defo better than plasma rot so eh
Hows ur plasma score?👀✨️
I forgot she's does fire dmg too
Like me hehe, skill issue gang
Too used with plasma rot
I am fish cause i spent 2 dolla on this game that's why im fish
Naughty
Lamia sandwich mmm
Spending money on a game
ive used 50k for ss and sss dante, vergil w sig and cub is sss the best stopping point ? i got 1.5kbc left
Cya
cough totally not me cough
Never go past SSS
||and me||
SSS is always a great stopping point, past SSS it costs way too much to be recommended unless you swipe a lot.
ah alright and for cub just s ?
Why are my weeklies marked as done if I came back like yesterday
Yes going past S isn't really worth it either.
SS is worth it if you're low spender or higher
There was a bug with weeklies, if its still bugged for you - Message megumi on discord.
Yes, it will cost hundreds of dollars if you are a spender xD
low differencev of sss and sss3 right ?
Its ok I suppose but I'd suggest saving it.
oh okay
i did the warzone and ppc while the weeklies were bugged is there a way to clear it for the "first" time or do i have to wait this week out
For this, we dunno
💔 alr thanks
The daily pass
Or monthly as people said
whats the stuffs to get as low spender ?
im planning one is there a subscription ?
Monthly pass A, BP is pretty much enough for low spending, we don't have great packs this time around - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1--NFm3o__MguetZJQsEIjIbx4bvp3MPm0QWlA4q26zk/edit?gid=1509250371#gid=1509250371
Thanks!
Might need to swap to dmc at the bottom
Are the weekly tasks still supposed to be broken? Cuz i only have 1 task
The notice said they fixed it, if its still not working as intended - Message Megumi on discord.
they do mention restarting the game too
Well they did fix SOMETHING because i have at least one task right now
But i still don't have any of my PPC or warzone tasks
yea same thing happened to me
atleast i can do the personal score tasks for war zone tho
Yeah but i need my black cards. I don't care that much because i already got my Vergil maxed out and built, but imagine people who need these black cards because they're a newbie and didn't play before the patch. It's like devs literally don't allow people to pull right now 😭
i still need solacetune 💔
is buying the 68 rc battlepass from the alpha and feral event worth it? since im getting 400 skulls, 2 reso leys and ferals sig (another free reso item) + much more
yea its a pretty good deal imo
Yes, its prob the highest permanent value in the game.
Like imagine you're a newbie who has no black cards at the moment and now you just can't pull your favorite character because the devs won't fix their bugged modes, kinda frustrating if you ask me
I got my tasks just fine. Is it only bugged for some ppl?
yeah cause if youre not using feral much her 6 star is another free resonate for any other character
okay thank you! 
Her 6* is still nice for Lightning and Glow in the future since you can harmony and have resos on her I suppose.
i got most of mine but i cant do the first time clear ones cuz i already cleared it while it was bugged 💔
im about to build the dmc units can u guide me up whats the best memory, weapon build ?
I cant help anything with weeklies since i done it all before bugs
what does it do? i dont focus on that much

they are said to just appear back cause thats what happened to my other accs which didnt have it completed, it vanished for a day then when we got the mail it appeared back
Unless i just forgot that i did them but i'm pretty sure i didn't
that's too bad ig
Bro where is patton i cant see her in simulation shop
One way to check, wz and ppc
i mean check the menu and see if you actually fought in the paincage or warzone
Sure, Dante will want 4x Shakespeare and 4x cottie - atk+15 top reso and ultimate bottom reso - Vergil will want 4x Patton and 4x cottie - atk+15 top reso and ultimate bottom reso.
i cant complete the last 2 lvls at norman revival plan for the past 3 months ;-; i wasted alot of 600 bc...
Whats vergil's build
thank you! much appreciated!
honestly i only manage tk do norman cause of my friends sss characters
also why is condelina used in the games rec build
wait u can borrow units from friends ? that support members button ?
mhm
That's the cons of sync patches, cant get full one norman done equivalent losing for 4 weeks/ 6 weeks bc
.......what a waste i calculated at all 5k bc overall for past 3 months ;'(
Her wep buffs her healing buff and then you can resonate it as you would any other amplifier for more damage bonus.
Cant get it done for 3 months, it will be more
In game recommend is usually bad.
wait thats actually good, and with the reso which gives an 8% atk boost
Yep, its fairly decent.
ah lastly top shakespeare bottom cottie right ? and for vergil 4x patton top ?
Well sss+ lux gives the same buff with no sig
Yes cottie on bottom for them both.
ok ty
what's the deer pet for alisa?
Lingya?
ohh the one with the orb passive?
Yes.
ty
can anyone explain to me what ss3 pryoath does? i recently got her and i had to change her plasma rot and its honestly easy but im wondering if it was worth it
doing the ulti slash vergil combo
It lets her spam her hold ult more often iirc.
its cause im trying to fix my warzone score...
yeah her ss3 rotation makes her hold ult 3 times? lemme check
What wz rank and what is your plasma score?
what wz as in hero legend etc?
Ye
I'm SS0 and I can score like 4-5m so SS3 should be putting up higher numbers than that. hero/legend.
hero, and the reason isnt even plasma atp my ice score is really low cause my wanshi is ss and shukra not ss6 yet 💔
i alr tried ice a lot but it didnt work so im trying plasma since i recently got lucia ss3 only so improving it is my only shot
Ice is just rough right now in general, I'm struggling to get 4.5m myself.
im so jealous 
Your lightning seems a bit low, you have Nana right?
I think I got 3.5m with SS Wanshi +SIG and SS0 Qu+ Sig - SS No sig Ayla.
Do i get Solacetune from here or do i spin her on the regular banner? (anniversary banner i mean)
ah what should i use for resonance weapon
Did you get Nanami Startrail from the blue ticket selector?
until what chapter of story does unlock everything?
They pretty much just want Deadline timing.
Should i not just put class skill on hanying if im just gonna quickswap her and hypercarry virgil
No. Where do i get the ticket?
is getting hanying worth here for vergil team ?
Go int your base blue ticket banner, you should have a selector in there.
Well she is the best tank for him so you want to get her, i'm just wondering which banner is better in this case
i lit have ss wanshi no sig, ss6 shukra sig and alt, ss ayla no sig and got 1.9m... 
yeah im still trying to work on that at least
How are you starting, Ayla insta swap into wanshi rotation or Qu?
at least i got reputation saving me from getting demoted
ayla insta swap to wanshi, then shukra, then repeat
I don't think i do lol
you already used it?
No idea, maybe i did
what are your s ranks rn cause im worried
it's funny how patton became relevant again literal lucia lotus memos
Ok, if you don't own Nanami startrail pull her on the anniversary banner but do note, having 15k is vital because this pity doesn't carry over to the Themed pity.
Why do i need her?
is it viable to use wanshi with kaleido on wz
like just the both of em
im too poor for shukra 😭
She's the best valued unit in the game right now because she is the main dps for lightning team, she is used in Plasma, Ignition and Glow.
You can also use luna oblivion and another amplifier
do you startrail on ss3? or is ss good enough
Mb G.
i thought you said lucia was the best valued unit 
pretty much, but better get Hanying from the anniversary banner since it’s only available for a limited time - Thunderbolt you can take anytime, and maybe you’d want to use that banner to SS3 some of your roster (assuming you have everyone except Hanying)
shes the character with one of the most value since shes super flexible
SS is enough but SS3 is really nice however if you are f2p just stick to SS.
crimson weave and feral are free and get startrail your lightning team is complete
I only care about a character if i like them or if they're a unit i need for one of my dps units tho, i don't really need dps units rn
yea i dont really care abt placements and stuff rn
If you like her, get it then, she will thank you, she's already wild, that turns up a notch.
u can use the orange tickets right ? forgot the name
im trying to get hanying from the thunderbolt thingie atm since i need her for my vergil
Is echo or another attacker like viltrum viable
Well if you like Hanying just pull her from the anniversary and save the thunderbolt for a later time.
who should i pull for in anniversary? these are basically all the important characters i have
No
wanshi rot is like ult 1 then swap to qu rot then 2x ult again with wanshi right?
For extra ranks i assume?
Alisa is a free support from the dorm shop, she is used in Physical, Glaciation and Ultima slash teams.
pyroath maybe
You can solo wanshi
You can solo wanshi

Not everyone has qu
but i have qu 
Extra ranks or if you fancy getting Pyroath or someone else in the future. It's permanent event so its forever.
Gotcha
Speaking of is qu getting replaced soon
what's ishamel good for? she looks cool
i may regret this later on but not be building and getting ss alpha just now... and im getting her skin...💔
Ayla most likely will be replaced before her.
They said this for scire too
since im getting hanying from thunderbolt who should i pull from the anniversary banner?
kill daren
Ayla is really outdated...so we can hope.
replaced as main dps 
Hey I'm thinking of using my remaining BC to pull a character from the event banner. Which one would y'all suggest (aside from Nanami) as a good pick?
What's the rot for Vergil? if anyone knows
is she viable for ice? like for wz
Not for Ice no.
main DPS liv 
Drop us your Huaxu so we can give better advice.
Main dps for nihil
Can be used as a tank or an amplifier for any element
Not worth it if you dont have luna oblivion
what does that mean?
Why isn’t she worth without Luna?
Ishmael is a great character if you missing units, her and Luna can be squeezed into so many teams if they are underdeveloped.
i dont have luna ><
It’s ok. It’s good to have savings for the future
oh so the banner in the thunderbolt is a one time only
Yes
https://huaxu.app/ - Put in your ingame ID into here and it will poll your account, letting us see your units - Its safe dw ^^
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are dmc weapons high priority or is it fine to skip them?
You can skip them
man idk if i should get solacetune for selena, pyroath for vera or ishmael cuz she's cool
It's fine to skip them if you aren't a fan of DMC.
Solacetune is better for Selena than Pyroath for Vera - Pyroath is a subdps for Vera.
You cant do well in nihil without luna
Ishmael is also not as good as the dedicated tank or amp for said element
Unless you have high investment
I like the characters its just going to be difficult for me to play for a while thank you tho for the input
do i js send my id here?
is echo important in selena's team?
Just copy and paste the url after searching it here.
cuz i dont have her ;sob:
How to complete the requirement fot mission 15 in lamento event
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Yea
Pyroath is the next best option since you already have Nanami and getting Hanying through other means.
Ok thanks
alr thanks
where can i see the timer for the anniversary banner?
Under the massive 100% rate up icon.
oh im blind ty
so i need some help with nanami, she currently has one resonance, and i always have ti switch between dlt or domain deconstruction depending if shes dps or res shred, and im wondering if i just get another slot so i can use both at once
I personally have 2 resonances on her, DLT and Domain.
you will still swap resonances when you have two
coz you will always get rid of DLT when she's not soloing
Hmm what’s better SSS Dante or SS Dante SS Vergil? (Weapons and cubs included)
Hello guys
SS Dante and SS vergil is better if wep and cubs are included.
oh?
Hi! Good morning (who are you? lol)
Ok thank you
can this selector come already i need another beauty sss... also it sounds so funny yet pathetic to say i went for shukra copies in 2025 as someone who goes for meta
Welcome back 
She's still meta so it's fine. Her SSS is really good.
yeah.. at least i got her 30 pity on anniversary banner

Big dmg boost
Why does it feel like my luna laurel is soo weak now 😦
Prob cuz she’s a gen 1 unit lol
im totally not crying inside cause i need selena skin but i dont even have 2500 bc plus i need bianca and her wp-
It's because she is "weak" now. Lilith who is free from Insatiable research event replaces her MASSIVELY.
well uh... bad news...? 
XD
i fear even karenina beats luna now
Luna was replaced eons ago
Any gen 1 unit is insanely outdated now
Gen 1 as in, first S rank to be released for their respective element+role
And Gen 2 units are starting to go
Yeah i last played when bambinata was still around
What do u expect
Ohhh
It’s ok. Luna has a new frame that is good
It’s been what, 4-5 yrs since Luna laurel?
Luna oblivion
3 years for us, she was first anniversary.
how i look at my lilith and alpha for wasting all my coins for resonances.... (i had above 80k before.......)
Oh yeah I quit before even her
How did 2 units take 80k I did 5 and still have 30k
Whats that?
It depends on luck
Oh Ig I got pretty lucky
He's rolling perfect memory resonance with it
Dante took me 40k coins for everything, buying the memories, exp, etc + perfect resos
Yeah that’s what I did
horrible luck 💔💔
My Hanying took 40k and now my Dante and Vergil have no memories. RIP BOZOS :d
perfectionist lol
I did wanshi, watanabe, startrail, Selena and Vera.
yeah
Would it be good to try and pull a character from the yellow event banner? I'm trying to decide whether or not it's worth spending my remaining BC to either get Virgil to SS3 or to pull a new character.
How many memory resonance material items did you use tho
I have 80k coins left hopefully Vergil doesn’t take that much
None. I saved them for Dante
when will this skin be back please i need it for the sake of my mental health im losing it
i have 600k left and no one to build 
That’s crazy maybe I got god luck lol
I'd always suggest another character over dupes, as long as he is SS which he will be after 1 pull, just work on someone else.
Do u have all the diff ppc sets for everyone and all that?
What do you mean 600.000
I only see 60 million cogs right there
yes
Nice😩 couldn’t be me
cause if its not returning im getting a diff one
Never
||Until the next announcement||
So many of my amps are sharing the same DV and guin
Oh I have 1 set for everyone LMAO
Brick
@normal night who would you suggest aside from Nanami startrail? I know I can always get her from thunderbolt research. Is there a character that's not easily obtainable right now?
..i guess im getting the vow of dragons one then
you’re just super lucky!
it took me 40k to perfect one unit before lol
Wow
every support of shares the same build atp
same... rip my 80k cause of support lilith and alpha
Hello guys
Could anyone please teach me Vergil Ultima Slash rotation?
now we gotta be careful how we spend things coz rewards are only 1x lol
Swap in > blue orb > tap basic > signature move 1 and change to red orb > keep using basic attack until you have enough energy > signature move 2 > blue orb > tap basic attack > signature move 1 > repeat the process until you run out of signal orbs
is the collab CGs not available for custom loading screen? last time i remembered using nier
guys anyone has SS3 or SSS shukra?
Not me
What server are you playing anyway
pacific asia
I have SS3
I suppose Ishmael is prob the only one who will fill that "not easily obtainable right now" we won't have a selector or alternative ways to get her if you missed her for a long time.
can i dm you
Oh I am in NA sorry.
Is there a way to get the new vera for free
......well uh.... i totally dont have 200 coins rn
okayy
@normal night cool! Thank you! I was actually thinking about her too!
U can totally clear with SS qu tho I did.
Who should i pick on the aniversary banner?
i only have S Qu, no weapon
Depends on your account, send huaxu
If u still dont use blue banner for now, she will be there next patch
im new
Oh that’s ur issue
started playing about a week
Just find someone with SS. That’s easy enough.
I have ss, do u want it?
Did you use your blue ticket selector or the thunderbolt selector yet?
Vergil Ultima rotation (for myself)
The bare min one
yes can i dm u
we can use friend's support?
Yeah, u can get my id on my profile
yes on norman, just once
is there ppc bosses that is weak to Affix ?
Veronica plasma, powered ultima slash, monzano glacio
Yes, we will have 3, Veronica = Plasma, Powered = Ultima slash and Monzano = glaciation.
yes, got nanami startrail
yes
my id is 26079764
@normal night is ishmeal pretty good? What's her role?
North America
i added u
I think by befriending other players, you can also borrow their support unit
Thank you Takashi.
Because of you (your nickname to be precise), I found this
She's quite the universal unit, she can fill tank or amplifier roles granted she won't be as good as the dedicated/meta variants of these roles though. She's also great in Nihil content too.
Chat I just got Vergil with the last remaining of my weeklies is there a chance for me to still get the Yamato through the collab's rundown
Very good, great unit to own
make your support shukra thanks
Maybe
Already done it
Hello! Newbie here. I have a question, what is resonance skill? (I'm building Vergil)
thanks
Good, that's the aim.
can anyone tell me if this is a good ss3 plasma pryoath rot?
The Collab runs for four weeks
So think of it was three weeks of single rewards.. too low and yeah
Bit hard but manageable
But then we'll have Walter next patch
@normal night
@normal night @mossy timber thanks!
Is there a way to make my game less laggy without it being the graphics? Like, everything for me its 0 but it lags so hard that i cant even join a single match of anything
Ok, are you planning on pulling DMC?
for sure! there’s about 11k BC available this patch (minus the 2,500 BC you already got from the anniversary on day one and how much content you’ve already done from DMC event).
if you end up short, you can grind story or other game modes
if ur graphics are on low and u make sure nothing else is running in the background not sure what else. What do u play on?
so it's posibble to get about 10k from this patch alone
Yes but too much orbs consumed, swap in > 4x red then basic atk (let the animation ends) > hold ult + blue > hold ult > 1x blue > hold atk + atk > hold ult > 2x blue > tap ult
yeep, both characters, weapons and cubs
Im a low spender btw
i was thinking if i should get SSS3 for both sparda or no
I play on mobile
feels like my plasma runs out way faster than that tbh
Then if you have the spare currency after doing both of those - Hanying from the anniversary and Pyroath from the thunderbolt selector in the future.
This is for first swap tho, u need to watch others to learn more @verbal meadow
What device
yeah 11k bc - there’s a picture showing how many total tickets we’ll get this patch
The actual question is
Why do you want their SSS3 rank
It's very expensive
how do I increase plasma's duration?
my fire team is now complete
You can't
can I get more serum aside from just waiting? completely out of packs rn
About that its a samsung,but its from almost the ancients times
I'd strongly suggest no, SSS is enough for both brothers, going over is REALLY expensive and not really worth it.
It's fixed, that's why doing 5 slash is hell
if you really like them, personally I wouldnt at all since calling sss3 a steep invest is an understatement especially 2
Then you answered ur question 
thunderbolt selector?
i only have them at ss 
samsung is korean, you need a chinese phone for the game to run smoothly
oh damn
keep in mind if ya do, you arent going to be seeing any new units for a while assuming youre even somewhat f2p
OKAY
Like wich are from china? I barely know any
I personally not really mastered plasma rot as i not really mald it
well i saw the skill unlocked word "Devil May Cry", sounds cool u know 
I use a xiaomi phone and it rarely ever lags
Yeah, its a pullable selector up to Nanami startrail inside the thunderbolt manual event - Pulling it cost 15k.
If u guys want proper rot kindly checked these ccs
yeah probably no, maybe i save for bianca then
I use a motorela and I cant even run fgo 🥀 , I gotta use my pc for this game
Even in competitive schemes, anything beyond SSS rank is already overkill and it's the investment that someone who's aiming top 10 on the global leaderboard ranking would get
Even then, with sufficient skills SSS rank only is already enough to get into top 10 or top 20 in the leaderboard occasionally
motorola very poopoo in my experience
it’s only a damage boost - not worth it. better to use your bc for other things. but if you’re a true whale go for it lol
its terrible but whatever, I use my laptop way more anyway its just a placeholder till I get smth better
Wait this game has on pc?
Well, just acknowledge that it's really expensive to get the thing that you consider cool
get the poco x7 its crazy good
yes, not even emulator either it has its own launcher
Already for a year iirc
its really just a port tho
Very true, only those who aim for the top of the top and willing to throw hundreds and thousands down should be doing it - That's 99.99% of players who should avoid it.
wdym?
Tho the default keybind left nothing to say
Do we know how many hypertune mats we get in a week? from operation guardians + guild stuff?
nahh no way for whale for me 
its the same game as mobile just with a few additions, very similar to just playing on emulator 
is that a phone? how much does it cost
Depends on ur shopping spree
How many pulls of the characters you need for sss
like 500 maybe? idr
oh yeah thats what I mean, I just meant like you wont need an 3rd party host like bluestacks to run it
meaning?
interesting, might check it out when I get the money
For dmc, dante 2 pulls while vergil 3 pulls, for others are 5 pulls
I dont know how much u can get, but u can buy more on guild's shop
Which of the two are stronger
get nanami bro
pretty good until i get pyro, right?
tbf dante and vergil are probably the best characters to vertical invest rn from a saving your money sense cuz of the discount + free copies
Yeah its fine until you get Pyroath for fire.
ah no that'ts the thing i ran out of that currency 
i need to get 2k first lol
So I haven't hypertuned my twins yet
there is no stronger one, they're in different teams
more a ignition vs ultima question tbh
Well u can also get some of it on main story, do them
i got vergil first because i want to justify getting hanying from thunderbolt 
Then which team is stronger
BTW is there pvp
I'm doing story, but slowly
depends on the invest on the rest of your characters
I actually read lol
While yes they are cheaper than PGR cast units, even at SSS, they are still on par if not slightly better than SS0 variants of their elements - They still will shine in affix though.
Not much diff
Good luck for ur mental health then
I didnt mean in how good they are, I just meant bang for your buck in terms of what youre spending
I mean when are you going to get them again after this version ends
if i have solacetune and alisa build, between Selena and Vergil Which one is perfom better ? like dmg wise
if they (maybe) rerun once like nier did
still has the time issue, tho
like i just got pyroath and i could finish building her in december, but when the collab ends you cant invest anything more into the twins
consider both SSS
I just got both cuz I like dmc
I told myself I'll skip but they're fun to play with so I got them both
thats fair ngl, you technically have all the time in the world for pgr characters but dmc are limited. this game needs a memories feature tbh
I accepted and came to terms with the fact im very likely going to skip bianca
For Physical? Selena and it's not even close.
you do put memories on the characters already 
ah no I won't

physical selena vs ultima slash verg? what does more damage
No worries then thx
Wait does anyone know where is the moto racing thingy?
ouhh damn
i like the brothers, should i consider SSS pr maj
tbh I might if I really get swayed and have enough content but I got like 0 bc rn
I don't have their weap/cubs tho
I think after getting their free copy, everything after that is already expensive. Kuro made it look cheap because it’s 10,500 per copy, but in reality, that’s expensive - new units cost 15k and it can work in two teams cost around 7,500 each team. the brothers cost 10,500 for just one team
It's such a marketing strategy that KuroGames done with this collaboration
They know that people are going to get them nonetheless even if it wasn't discounted at all or if they cared about meta or not because obviously people love DMC and it's limited
But then with putting a discount on it, it creates an illusion that some people that only wanted to get the character for collection thinking "oh, because it's discounted might as well get more dupes" and spend more than they initially wanted to and possibly baited some players to spend money on "the sale"
yeah but ss + sig + cub is still 27k on normal characters compared to 23k on dmc ones so its still cheaper
maybe I can pull those near the end of the patch, but I'm okay rn as is
Vergil casually being stronger than fire team in intensive
That doesn't really matter because Selena won't ever go into Ultima slash and Vergil won't be going in Physical if they are both SSS.
doesnt that also apply to units only on one team like shukra?
I can't wait to see buffs that actually affect him
who would you say does more damage when in their respective teams? Im not sure if you can compare units like that but I mean at their peaks
He's an absolute monster
Yeah, she's incredibly mid too in meta
They also have their own weather eh?
yeah, so Qu is expensive lol
Because they are both physical units, they were asking IN PHYSICAL.
i thought it would be cool if vergil were ice element
both true slash and physical would buff him
even i know he doesn't have any ice effect in original game lul
oh I know, I just altered the question since I was interested in that. I havent actually seen anyone compare to two
As said above by others, Vergil will perform better in some cases under certain weather conditions. MB if I misunderstood the question before.
can I get away with just using vergil like Namami start trail or does vergils high dmg require him to be swapping with solacetune
Can't get orbs solo
You could technically use it to get full BC rewards on PPC (Except 30 BC in UPPC and WZ
But, Proper comp rots need solacetune.)
Proper playing needs Hanying and Orb management.
Gotcha was mostly asking because my solace tune and echo arent really built
Where 40 sec?
While I kinda just boosted vergil to 7000 because I like him
Same situation. I do have Hanying built SS0, but no sig for optimal rot.
I'm considering Pulling, But Balter Alter also needs her Sig weapon.
The Only unit I'm thinking of skipping is Selena, But'll get her in Arrival Banner next patch and get Bianca in Discord patch.
If not for the Collab, Could've spent BC more optimally
Can just skip 
what's soli tune
we all couldve spent bc more optimally if not for the collab lol
You're giving me ideas
Priotize dante or epitaph first?
Ik, but they won't get rerun and Also, I started PGR for DMC in the first place so skipping em would technically mean betrayal to my old DMC self
She could Glacio it ye 😄
is there a guide/ video recommending an optimal loop with a weaker solace
That's Hanying.
I meant running selena in Ts wz by doing phy rot on her
so in the shop u need 150 currency for 1 USB stick, like how many u can get like in 1 month doing norman ?
Sadly, Not yet. Just look up Hanying SS0 Rots.
I think Spider2B might have it.
I'd like to see that tbh, mine is SS3 so she won't be competing with him in there.
is there any chance they would do the collab again lol
Upgrading*
My invest is lopsided though
Highly unlikely
It's possible but I wouldn't hold out hope.
Can't tell u unless I know exact investment 
is dmc patch until 18 september?
And idk any hanying rotations below ss0 r1
How so?
so people who want to sss both have to fully advest?
S+ selena but only has ss3 hanying 
No vergil so I'm curious how far I can get away without vergil in ts wz
Unfortunately with the limited knowledge we have, yes.
S+? Nah she is prob eating that up.
wait for 2 years for rerun
aaaaa i havent build selena for glaciation
But could she compete with 3S Vergil invests?
Most likely not.
should I still pull for this guy's sig
Unlikely
Selena has to deal with slight off-element penalty in ts wz (0.8x)
Then, you are cooked on TS WZ 
well damn i'm a bit sad that i can't get them to sss, i'm half way with dante lol. btw might if i added in game. you seem really lol
is there a way to speedrun Cursed Waves, Deprived Matrix, and Awakening Tundra ?
Nope. That's hell, you are desperate for Orange tickets
enjoy them 
no just it's kinda irritated looking at reward unclaimed or something like that
I'll do it for science 
Also needed to know if my "ts" will be better than burn next week in wz since both will be in mixed zone
Ohhh..
Sorry man, gotta go hard way
Fock
Oh.. Burn and TS is mixed? Damn
Just get try to get CW then max out lightning matrix
my ocd kicking in
ull one shot everything in Cursed Waves
But Prolly 3S El Donte Burn is going to perform better than 3S Vergil TS right?
Kick it out then
Still takes like 30 min to finish tho
How many months/weeks are regular patches once the sync is over?
Sure, if you want.
just enjoy the process 
4-6
weeks?
Ya
Perform better on what
i have no idea what the sure is fore lol
Just trying to figure out if I will ever catch up to the story, I think I will but ya
Better on their respective WZ.
Heard Dante scores higher in Burn than Vergil in TS with equal invests.
How motivated am I? YES
Did I misunderstand something, my bad.
what should i put on my Yata Fulgor if i wanna play her on glaciation?
Isn't ts the highest scoring team rn?
sure get them both to SSS or sure add me lol
To add you.
Idk, They said Burn scored Higher
From what I've seen and experienced, Vergil just feels stronger
If you send your id,i'll send a friends request.
If all of ur team comps are sss i can say yes probably as burn team has newer teamset compared to ts
Atleast 3S and S+
56 clear time hmm....
should i start pulling on the anni banner or get the cub for vergil? \
Vergil CUB 
Can I use Ishmael in other teams except Nihil?
Y'all got your weeklies back?
ya
Oh yeah, so that's why CN bros told that Burn scored Higher than TS with El Donte.
El Donte scored like 2M diff with TS in Vergil
Except phys, nihil is her element
Do u really need vergil cub that badly
Very specific question, I wouldn't know to be exact
Warzone score is also heavily impacted by the enemies variants that are in the stage and also the weather buff that's currently active
What I'm saying is, we don't have enough records to 100% sure if the Burn team has a better score than the ultima slash team with the exact same investment level
instead of getting, idk maybe hanying
Burn reached 20 mil while ts hasn't
not really
Only shot to get his CUB
Holy Paragraph
ahh I was planning on Phys cause I dont have Hanying...
Just saying
Ts shot dead in babylonia
is there a big difference between sss and sss+?
getting her thru thunderbolt later, i wanna do the anniversary banner cuz its limited
Cool what u getting from anniv
sss usually changes the characters mechanic/roation, sss+ just boosts damage
Only damage
Yes but also a big difference in pricing too - generally not worth it.
Also, yes. You are right. I did see the statistics from CN and JP Servers and 3 consecutive weeks on their WZ.
We don't have records on GLB yet, but yes we'll wait.
pyroath
Nope
Okay now thats worth
3S is a good stopping point tbh
This kind of topic sometimes also interpreted wrongly for some people that wanted to know "which one is stronger" without knowing well the context of it and very often resulting in misinformation
@slate eagle what's Dante fire rot
Also IF they have said invest too
Lmfao yeah, And they'll be tagging me for misinfo 
Also, Those newbies who have3S Vergil and El Donte don't have 3S or even SS3 Alisa, Hanying, Nanami and Vera

Ye even with equal investment but fall shorts on weap reso still matter
It's not really the thing that someone can confidently say without at least 1 or 2 proofs or at least the basic understanding of it
Yet some people just confidently say things out loud, because "I tested it so"
Yeah still trying to get SS3 startrail
I thought SSS0 CW sucked until I SS0R3'ed her and she performed better early waves.
Hope you guys have patience for this
Classic Warzone moment
Well people tend to forget about weap reso
will the game have more colas?
Now that you mentioned it
Does any of both of Vergil and Dante cub has a gather skill???
I have sss cw but still useless cus homeless 
dies from ss0 nanami
I'll always give R1 to most of my units, except like new tanks or if they don't need DLT to perform well
It would be SUCK if it doesn't
I mean collaboration
that's because of 
29696475
Vergil has slight crowd control with million stab, but only if they are close
How about cub?
SS0 is usable, I hope you have atleast R1
"If" they are close
Usually these S rank cub has some kind of crowd control skill right
But if mobs are too far.......do I have to spell it out
Dante's has a gather, Vergil has a slow
Me with 5* wep
Damn
I won't lie though, I always forget this game even has a friends list/social features but its sent.
More restart that is
Vergil no strong gather?
Once the collab is over is there downright 0% chance to get the Sparda Twins' weapons in the future like the game does on its other characters?
My friend, you are missing a lot of damage and Reso
0 way, everything goes with them.
Vergil just kind of kills things on screen
btw i found in-game glitch
He doesn't need a gather tool unlike Dante
yeah im brokie
i cant even level up memo 😭
7 bc is all i can spare 
Nanami sig ain't even important
wanna make sure, if the enemy weak to physical than mean ultima slash is good to go right ?
Says nobody ever
Make it 0
No
what is wep
Unfortunately
No
oh its different
Different
it'll be the 2nd highest multiplier as long as it isn't warzone
oh is wep weapon
What if we use physical against ultima ppc? 
Atp you might need it
what's better to get do I get my virgil sss or my weapon ss+
so there will be some enemy that weak to ultima slash ?
Needs high invest physical for that. Or just brute force with glacio
Save yourself the headsche
Get her sig ez
Next week's ppc boss
oh waw
Even in ib if u dont have 333 invest, avoid using phys
I rest my case
Glacio 333 however
Ultima slash Phantom Pain Cage means your ultima slash attacks deals 2x the damage
You're going to need a lot of boost on a physical team just to barely reach that much damage threshold because it'll have no damage boost
Well i can only 2.333
So it boils down to your highest damaging team 
At least that's how it goes with Phantom Pain Cage
My fire team is also pretty invested so I was suprised when Vergil performed better than it
Can't wait for wata leap
or you dont know how to play fire 
What's your fire invest and what is your Vera's memo set?
7 bc brb selling my organs to kuro
Augh

wrong
🏃♂️
https://huaxu.app/na/players/10250574/characters You can see my invests here
Explore the 52 characters of Extaria from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
And yes I know the fire tech
Holy Coating Gray Raven
All of your character will deal only 0.3x damage of your actual damage if you're going to try the incorrect team for one stage
It's called the damage penalty
So no luna
Me running fire 


What's your score with glacio?
Wait a min
glacio my most hyperinvested atm
Let me try this out
Duly noted

Ladies and gentelmen
phanton pain cage's first stage is resetting every week, auto clear no more once i choose
yamete kudasai~~
Boy 
I found a cheat to get vergil, look at this
It's called a credit card.
wow you got him
Next patch gone 
No look at this, then this
That's just a preview...
No no they definitely got him
wowwww congrats

now start playing him
Not yet
play him and push the dmc propaganda 
What did you do Nergi
Type 3 circle if you're being hold hostage
he got Gergil, what are you talking about? be happy for him!
Nergi was helping too much that endup being ill
Ooo
Pgr Collab >>> Peak Combat
Wrong peak of collab
Glacio team 
Virgil, the dude who wrote The Aeneid
I was Ill way before I joined this server 
Same score as my fire lol
Welp, I'm cooked then 
Time to get SSS rank Pianissimo for a better score
I can only imagine how strong Vergil will be with crit or slash boosting effects
Prob already claimed em 🐳
How does new Bianca compare to Selena?
The new Bianca?
Isnt the new bianca dark
She's Dark element

I'm talking about score wise for zaza comps
Like who would be stronger just in general?
I wouldn't know
Honestly thinking about it for a sec, Selena for me since my glacio supports are hyperinvested
Ask the other that's experienced with Crepuscule or something
🤤 Bianca
Kuro needa make an oc true slash unit soon
Very close to SSS+ing Wanshi
Discord?
Discord exists - discord messed up mb @proven hamlet
Comparable to Vergil 
How much ticket to upgrade wanshi from ss0 to sss
who are the most useful zazas (don’t include nanami) is oblivion really even that good?

Oblivion is what makes zaza comps work so yeah pretty good
Especially for teams that have either a hypercarry tank or amp
Can someone explain to me what this actually means?
You have a 20% chance of losing
There's a 20% that you 🪦

20% chance? Where is that applied? On the 30 roll pity mark?
80% chance to pull 20% chance of failure, the 20% is split between 2 weapons at 10% each.
Not yet
Because surely if you actually have an 80% chance to get it at the 10 pulls most people would have gotten it by now
can you give me an example of her teams? I think I used her once with Wanshi.
but why would I zaza if i’ve already completed all the teams?
90% chance it's a DMC wep
this alone won't get you vergil, it's 30 shards.
For example you could run Oblivion, Lilith, and Lucid Dreamer for fast solo clears
Someone know what is the difference between the normal banner and the fate banner?
either on ice or dark
could u swap lilit wit vera
60 pity at 0.5% vs 80-100 pity at 1.5% = fate is bait.

Especially if you have a tank more developed than wata then sure
Thx
I know, but its 70% done
Yeah, i only have wanshi for that

There is no other way to get his shards outside of pulling.
Do cubs increase bp
So each one copy is 30
Would getting the new ish skin without her weapon skin
Makes me lose out on the battle sfx or is the weapon skin doesn't really factor in the battel sfx and is just a look costing
First time you pull a unit, its TECHNICALLY 50 if you don't own them but every dupe/copy after is 30.
If lilith is higher rank no
hmm what if both ss0?
i might be able to get lilith to ss3 soon
OOO
Both at ss0 same same
is there any keyboard keybind to click the dialogue options in cutscenes?
currently i don't have solacetune yet, there is no replacement for her for either vergil or pianissimo team ?
Wanshi or luna weap
Press Y
Wanshi no question
B Nanami 5* wep, SS rigor or A rank Ayla I suppose.
If i know right its on the skin
Not the waepon
granted they aren't anywhere near as good.
Does luna need her sig
Is there like any time where pulling for here is anything good?
Yes, when you have the S rank selector like you do.
doesn't seem to work for me 🙁
Yes, but her damage is a fraction compared to Ishmael. Overall you'll get more value from Wanshi's sig in content
Oh, there's times where I cant select the S rank here? And I got spoiled that Lucia turns out like this in the future is she any good?
hmm nice to know, but man none of em are builded. yeah i get solacetune for sure, idk if S good enough tho
Maybe you should reset then, press G to skip it all and then try again
Ok but here's the situation, i currently have 6k bc and 6k yellow ticks. But i do have 27 pity in the weapon banner. Should i reach pity or save for bianca?
Yes, after using the S rank selector once, it goes until we eventually get it reset. Pyroath is good but the general suggestion is using the blue ticket selector for Nanami Startrail, if you have her - Sure pull for Pyroath.
Did you pull everything you want from collab?
I'm skipping
And yes save for Bianca's sig
I spent a lot last patch catching up since i left for 2 years
uhhh how do u jump on this
Attackers need sig more than any other unit
1
Press 1 and move forward lol
1 is sprint
Alrighty, thanks man. I'll just get wanshi sig when i get leftovers then
I dont have her, or know who she is. But thanks, after using the S rank selection how long is the cooldown before you can use it again?
She should in fire content.
oh there 💀